Who Changed the CIA’s Talking Points That Originally Called Benghazi an Al Qaeda-Linked Terrorist Attack?

AP
Former CIA Director David Petraeus testified Friday that the spy agency’s first talking points called the Sept. 11 Libya attacks an Al-Qaeda-linked terrorist act, but that that language was removed for the final version ultimately used by U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, lawmakers said.
Petraeus testified that the CIA’s initial response referred to militant groups Ansar al-Shariah and Al-Qaeda, the Associated Press reported, but that those names were replaced with the word “extremist” during an inter-agency process to come up with a final draft. Petraeus did not know which federal agency made the change.
“No one knows yet exactly who came up with the final version of the talking points,” Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) told reporters after the closed-door House Intelligence Committee hearing.
“The fact is, the reference to al-Qaida was taken out somewhere along the line by someone outside the intelligence community,” King said, according to the AP. “We need to find out who did it and why.”
But Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.) said Petraeus testified that the CIA’s draft points were circulated to other intelligence and federal agencies for review. Udall told the AP that Petraeus said all agency leaders, including Petraeus himself, were presented with the final document and all signed off on it.
“The assessment that was publicly shared in unclassified talking points went through a process of editing,” Udall said. “The extremist description was put in because in an unclassified document you want to be careful who you identify as being involved.”
Four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, were killed in the Benghazi assault.
Petraeus resigned from his CIA post last week after admitting to an extramarital affair.
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knitmaiden
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:19pmThe most important question remains: Why was the ambassador there and what was the CIA doing there? No one is asking this question. The answer to that question is why they were killed and why the WH is circling the wagons. People wake up!!!!!!! Who cares if the talking points were changed and who cares who changed them. No one in the media is asking the right questions. They are having you look at the other hand once again!! And you are falling for it!!!!!!
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Mulder1
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:44pmThe Obama campaign had the stronges motive for changing the talking points.It is likely that Rice was promised the secretary of state job if she would lie to the American people about the Benghazi affair. Why did Rice go on those TV new shows and not someone who actually knew what happened at Benghazi? I want Rice and Obama to testify under oath.
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encinom
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 7:50pmWhere do I get limited edition Glenn Beck Crazy Train Tin Foil Hats?
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TrueblueTarheel
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 8:04pmGreat question…along with all the others as to why and who changed the information? We all knew within 24 hours what the attack was because the Libyan leader told us….Where on earth was our CNN, CBS, NBC all the big supposedly ‘watchdogs’ for America, at??? Obama is going down!! and a bunch of others better go with him.
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I.Heart.America
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 8:13pmWHO is above Patraeus?? That would be Janet Napolitano of Homeland Security. SHE would do the editing but ONLY if Obama said it was ok?…right??? hmmmmmmm
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db321
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 3:01pmGreat question… Let me guess, was it the “Stand Down Murder in Chief or was it Bush’s Fault!
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maverick4harlot
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 11:10pmDoes anyone have any problems with how far down this story has become? This story is being buried by time. The facts are that the President chose not to help American citizens in harms way AND AS A RESULT THEY DIED. If you believe otherwise you are an idiot. I believe in my heart that President Obama MUST be removed from power AT ALL COSTS. Of course the American people are to scared to do such a thing. They are terrified to stand. So Americans conceede to do anything that will not lead to any type of argumentative situation. As a realistic result, if you believe this way you are worthless.If you dont like it then learn how to stand for the truth.
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LadyGOP
Posted on November 18, 2012 at 7:46amAre you meaning to tell me Susan Rice went on national television numerous times, as well as Hilary Clinton and Obama all promoting the fairy tale about the video rather than terrorism and Obama had nothing to do with those statements and doesnt know where they came from ? That is utter BS.
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Uglyduckling.Z
Posted on November 18, 2012 at 11:43amJust sharing this verses relating to Obama and his administration:
Proverbs 6:16-19
New International Version (NIV)
16Â There are six things the Lord hates,
    seven that are detestable to him:
17Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â haughty eyes,
        a lying tongue,
        hands that shed innocent blood,
18Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â a heart that devises wicked schemes,
        feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â a false witness who pours out lies
        and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
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Bohump
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:14pmThe Buck Stop’s … WHERE ?
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hempstead1944
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 5:27pmAmerica doesn’t have anymore bucks.
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rd11ok
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:33pmDon’t underestimate Valerie Jarrett.
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Flashydave
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 7:14amI would suspect the MB plant in the State Dept, Hillary’s Mussie assistant, or Jarrett. Neither of these women have any love for America and are actively working against our interests and security.
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barber2
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:31pmThis is the question . WHO “changed” the ” the CIA’s talking points for the White House ?” I am sure it was the White House so WHO in the White House ?? THIS IS THE QUESTION. Just heard that the Democrats are starting up a ” defense of Susan Rice ” drive to Play the Female Card and distract. Pointing fingers at ” white male conservatives .” THAT is not the issue. CONGRESS: do something. Do not leave the American people out to dry like the English Parliament did long ago !
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truthsurfer
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:27pmThe terrorist in chief kenyan in the white house sold out Americans for his real flock the terrorist. This is just one more (though much more serious) added to his list of daily lies.
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JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:23pmHere we go again. I am so fricken tired of politics. When it was a bush administration we had Republicans trying to coverup for him and now that we have Obama we have Democrats trying to coverup for him. Why does the American people elect the most corrupt and dishonest people in the Country? It’s fricken mind boggling!!! We need to clean out both houses and start over or maybe, just maybe America does need a creditable third party. Political “SLIMEBALLS”, every dam one of them!!!!!!
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Brunolucia
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:54pmBush was never my favorite either. There is no equivalence between the mind-numbing blind zombie followership of Obama–and his total unchecked freedom of movement to act with impunity–and the state of affairs under Bush. Back then, dissent was lauded as patriotic by “progressives,†and Bush didn’t get away with anything untoward without paying a very high price. That is how it should be now, but most journalists have been completely co-opted by an ideology that is bereft of any concern for the truth.
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Jowolf
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:18pmOkay. So I understand that Patraeus linked attacks to specific terrorists groups; those name were replaced with the word “extremists” and Patraeus along with others sign off on it as article elaborates. However, Ambassador Rice uses “spontaneous attacks”. That, to me, is a whole lot different than “extremists”. That, to me, can be interpreted in a whole different fashion so that the public will conclude it’s linked to video as Clinton and Obama railed to the world. Yesterday, Obama tells us in a press conference that Rice was sent out as instructed by the administration and to come after him instead of Rice. Makes it quite clear to me who is responsible for covering up the true source of the attacks on Benghazi.
Now, the real question is WHY the President wanted this covered up. What activities was the White House involved in that they would go to such extremes to cover up the attack.
Sad, but maybe true, if not for those who disobeyed orders, and the person(s) who did the video at the time of the attack, the cover up may have worked.
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deiernhart8
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:33pmWell, one answer to your question is Gun’s. Obama is running gun’s into syria.
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Detroit paperboy
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:15pm…………David Axelrod, that’s who………….it’s called Re Election…..
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deepesq
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:01pmor Valerie Jarrett…..
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deeters
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:09pmI think the video story was not aimed at the USA. I think it was aimed at the radicals. Remember how many places were attacked after they kept repeating there was a video. I think no one knew of the video until the WH made it known. Hillary Clinton truely looked upset. more so than ever before. I think because she had crossed a line and is afraid it will crash down on her. Obama even went with the video story at the UN so the world would know.
Petraeus should go help the minute men to get his reputation back.
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Detesman
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:16pmIt’s great that we have them dead to rights on this. The bad news is the fact that theres blood of good Americans on their hands.
BTW, you have a good name (it’s my real last name except mine is spelled Deters)
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Noonien_Soong
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:51pmMy first guess to who may have changed the ‘Talking Points’ Is the counter terrorism chief John O. Brennen. He may have influence with the Muslim Brotherhood.
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HKS
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:58pmOn another associated front, the MSM is still not covering this event. Surprised?
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doomytram
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:00pmIs he the one that didn’t have the foggiest idea that Al Qaeda terrorist had taken over and bombed the subway’s in London 8 hours after it happened?
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mikem1969
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:12pmNo, it is no surprise that MSM is not covering it. Like I said in several posts before and just after the fraudlection (yes, new term), if littler hitler himself sprayed gas on the entire country and then lit a match and burned the country down, they would cover for him. He is after all the libs and progressives god.
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phillycornerboy
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:16pmwhen do we start talking about the 4 dead Americans? THAT is the real issue not, who said what or who is the generals mistress. nine weeks later and we are still be played by obama and the msm. on a side note…i have a 10 to1 policy, 10 cruise missles for every dead American. sounds good to me!
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Delores at CH WV
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:48pmBlackberry. It is time to take Blackberry and put him in the sea with Ben Laden! Obama only makes a decison when Blackberry and Teleprompter allows him to talk.
How about the Muslim Brotherhood in our government’s security agencies that are really running our government? It is time for Obama to clean house or be impeached because of his reckless decisions to take our country down.
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doomytram
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:55pmPerhaps Obozo will tell you what is going on when he and the Muslim Brotherhood start gathering you up?
ImpeachObozoDotcom is available, NO?
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Detesman
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:47pmI think it’s not only crazy that they made this story up but it’s even worse that the administration ran an advertisement on Pakistani TV, or as they pronounce it Paaahkeestaahn, to apologize for an American excersising his right to free speech and making a movie like he did. They spent 70K running an ad with Hillary and Obama apologizing “ooh, we are so sorry, please don’t be mad at us, we don’t condone that.”. What a joke, and why Mittens didn’t bring it up in third debate is beyond me.
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DadRocked
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:58pmForgot about that… Instigating and throwing fuel on the fire… I don’t know what Libyan or International law would be but…
Under federal law, Inciting a riot and according to 18 USCS § 2102 “to incite a riot”, or “to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot”, includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts.â€
The charges are piling up…
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Detesman
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:10pmGood point, D Rock, and Remember hearing about when Hillary told that father of the fallen Navy Seal that ” don’t worry, we are going to get that person who made the video”. These SOB ‘s have no conscience it seems like our govt is being run by sociopaths and serial liars.
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DadRocked
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:36pmI know Detesman! I guess that it’s because I’ve never been knocked to the mat without letting the other guy know that I WAS in the ring too. Cleveland kid, USAF cop, civilian cop of 16yrs…
Been down many times but I keep getting back up. Maybe just a glutten for punishment but I won’t stop until I can’t get back up. When that day comes I’ll probably be called up and placed 6′ under.
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DadRocked
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:40pmAnd I especially know that I do not stand alone.
They (whomever they be) have and will be knocking on my door for help, guidance or protection.
I’ll be saying that there is no more room at the inn, because I am not alone and surely not naive!
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tangerinemoon
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:47pmValerie Jarrett.
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HKS
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:19pmNot only did they craft the lie but they took Susan Rice and made her the face of that lie (patsy) to the whole world. I do believe that she, being an ambassador, should have know better then make herself the face of such a thing that the whole world already knew was a lie. She has been damaged by this forever and its her own fault.
Only another woman would have done that. Did you notice what Obama did at the press conference?
“Remember Benghazi”
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momprayn
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:45pmWho changed them? Yes, that needs to be exposed; however, I’m more interested in WHEN did Obama/Hillary know that you can prove?? Attorneys say if you can prove Obama lied, that is a reason for impeachment. So far, I haven’t heard that addressed re his interrogation….plus he did lie in mid Sept. that it was the video.????? Sounds like we going around in circles, as was probably planned….so far.
And…then there’s this: JILL KELLEY – please check out and spread the word:
Jill Khawam Kelley was the hand-picked lobbyist for Muslim nations and their agenda at Central Command
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/56333/jill-kelley-helped-muslim-nations-hezbollahs-lebanon-infiltrate-central-command-macdill-base-go-to-girl-for-muslim-parties-w-generals/
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team1blazer
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:33pmThe decision to lable it a retaliation for an anti-Islam movie came from the top. Obaby just doesn’t have the stones to fess up. He is a coward. He is an embarassment to this country, and so are all of the idiots who voted for him.
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MAX0O1
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 7:20pmYEAH and we who did not vote for this criminal have to suffer for
what the stupid BAS***DS WHO DID!!!!!!!11
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Individualism
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:33pmBeyawnzi! over-reported and just not that interesting.
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DadRocked
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:07pmLooking for attention again, eh? I respect the Paul family too but… Oh never mind…
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AvengerK
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:07pmso go back to sleep INDIWIDDIE you can dream of the DREAM act instead.
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Brunolucia
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:40pmIt’s BENGHAZI! If you are a sentient being you should care. A lot.
Have you seen the videos of the attack?
You stand in front of a flag, but I can’t imagine with your attitude that you have ever served in the military, or the Foreign Service. Not to disparage those who have not. There are great patriots–in the civilian sector–that have been of support to our national security in many other roles. But your world view as evidenced by your inane comment, suggests that you just “don’t get it.†Maybe you were being facetious. In that case I apologize for not picking up on the humor. But your comment really struck a nerve and roused my passion. I’m not a violent man by nature, and I’ve never struck anyone out of anger; but, if I didn’t count to ten first…and you were in the same room as me…someone would have to hold me back.
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 4:48amYou are correct. Outside of the far right internet bubble, nobody really cares about this story. Serving in the military or as a diplomat in a volatile part of the world can be dangerous. They knew the job was risky when they took it, and that if they got in trouble we might or might not be able to help them. In this case we couldn’t. It’s very sad, but there’s nothing to be done about it now and nothing more that needs to be said about it.
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hauschild
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:21pmThis is all nonsense because it pits the regime against Petraeus when in all actuality, they are one in the same. Both are dirty and both need to be deep-sixed.
Why are some hell-bent on making Petraeus appear innocent in all this??? I understand you’d like to focus the negative attention on the regime, but my goodness, they’re both as crooked as a dog’s hind leg.
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steve61lindsey
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:30pmThe old cliche, “if you lie down with dogs you’ll get up with fleas is true.” This is what happens when men who are mostly decent compromise themselves for political gain.
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nrse2go
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:34pmwe don’t know if or what the white house was holding over him and now he is destroyed
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hauschild
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:47pm“men who are mostly decent”
How would you make that leap based the fact he did absolutely nothing to help 4 of our fellow citizens?
He’s a dirt bag and always has been. You don’t live 50 or 60 years and then suddenly have your character and integrity easily compromised.
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Tri-ox
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:20pmWell, obama ordered the change, but this is secondary issue – obama had the “change” made to cover his tracks after he issued the “STAND DOWN” order which led to the deaths of four Americans – obama must be held accountable for his crimes.
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hauschild
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:49pmEvery time I hear or read “Stand Down”, I think of Murdoch in Rambo, First Blood Part II.
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TrueblueTarheel
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 8:08pmso so so agree…the buck stops at the WH door..Obama should be impeached!! NOW! and all those who are cronies with this mess should be out with him…Rice, Clinton etc. ….
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pap pap
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:19pmI agree Snow.
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doomytram
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:17pmValerie Jarrett / Holder / and Obozo changed those talking points. (The crude and disgusting heinous video sounds like a good ploy to lie to the American People)
Who classified The Al Qaeda trained American Fort Hood Terrorist Major Hassan as a disgruntled employee? Valerie Jarrett / Holder / and Obozo (The crude and disgusting heinous video sounds like a good ploy to lie to the American People)
Who classified the Yemeni trained American Al Qaeda Terrorist who shot an two American soldiers in Arkansas as a drive by shooter? Valerie Jarrett / Holder / and Obozo. (The crude and disgusting heinous video sounds like a good ploy to lie to the American People)
A former CIA Head in the early 80′s said something like this…. The misinformation campaign will have been successful if everything the people believe is false and the truth will never be revealed.
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Pork_Anvil
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:15pmKnock knock. Who’s there? Who cares.
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paperpushermj
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:23pmI paperpushermj care
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Pork_Anvil
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:35pmPork wondering what Paperpushermj do with information!
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:06pmIt doesn’t matter who changed anything,this whole discussion is BS because we’re arguing about a non issue. The violence wasn’t based on a 15 minute video,it was an act of war and to have to tell adults that that’s what happened is idiotic it should be obvious. Four Americans were killed and the ‘one’ didn’t do anything to prevent it and a coverup ensued to ensure the ‘one’s’ reelection.
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oldguy49
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:09pmthe real issue is who left american’s to die…………………………………….
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paperpushermj
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:10pmYou paint the big picture
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Small World
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:16pmObama ….end of story !
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Spinmamma
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:21pmWell, actually it does matter. The change in the talking points must be traced to the source because it is additional evidence that the decision to issue a stand down order was purely political (assuming that our top tier “leaders” aren’t hopelessly and utterly stupid.)
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DadRocked
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:26pmSpinmamma – I understand and that is an important point/branch on the limb of a mighty oak. They MUST get answers to the who/what/when/where and whys of that oak tree.
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grayesun
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:26pmA face/faces needs to be put on this whole sordid affair, from responsibility for 4 American deaths to failure to provide support, to subsequent cover-ups/lies. Placing blame on an abstract “White House” entity that hides behind a bureaucratic agency snafu is unacceptable…like Nixon and his cronies fell after Watergate…heads must roll in this White House and be prosecuted.
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Cavallo
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:38pmObama probably enjoyed watching Stevens get killed. I wonder if he enjoyed the rape alone of if he watched it with a special friend.
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DadRocked
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:40pmProgressiveSlayer – ‘The reminder of logic to the readers’ – I would remind readers and add, Why were they in a HOT zone? What was behind the presence there?
Why was he meeting with the Libyan Counsel General and what was it about?
Did the timing of their meeting have anything to do with the assault? (I say assault not an incident that the press and government regularly do.)
Logic and speculation (often the same thing) would be to disarm the anti-Ghadaffi’s that were armed in preparation of the uprising.
If so, then were they out to get the weapons (U.S. assisted supply) back or Ghaddafi’s military’s weapons or both.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:40pmMy point is Barry is ultimately responsible for this but he won’t be held accountable. Water gate was nothing compared to four years of this anti American regime and we know what happened to Nixon.
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hauschild
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:53pm“My point is Barry is ultimately responsible for this but he won’t be held accountable.”
True, and well over half of Americans do not care, or feel that since it was Obama that did it, his ends justify whatever means he is currently producing. Sad, huh?
Anybody thinks this country’s best years are ahead of it are completely and utterly delusional.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:14pmHAUSCHILD Aint that the truth we are finished and we’re living through the revenge the Marxist mulatto promised us.
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DadRocked
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:23pmSlayer and Hauschild – Concur – The times were different then… Social Studies and economics were still taught in Jr and Sr High School… Mandatory classes no less. Can’t put a value on that until we flash forward to today. More people knew what was happening in their own backyard, town, county, state and fed levels and their schools and school systems.
Nixon’s situation was easy pickin’s under that climate.
More people will be watching the pretrials of Idol soon than have any clue to this nor Fast & Furious.
And quite of few of the aware ones will not speak out of fear or a keep the peace mindset. At least that’s how it is here in Northern Virginia.
Not overtly but in casual conversations, I do piss a lot of people off just mentioning current events. Especially at the watering holes.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:37pmDADROCKED It’s a sign of the times isn’t it? Nobody knows or cares whats going on in the country they just go about their day blissfully ignorant of the inevitable crash. I know what you mean about ******* people off I do it regularly. Mainly to see if they’re informed on the issues of the day and sadly most don’t have a clue as to whats going on in the country,they will though and very soon.
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DadRocked
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:53pmTrue Slayer! But I find interesting is that the ignorant/uniformed find themselves doing a 180 somewhere down the line and are drawn into conversation.
As though, well here’s an example from this a.m. over the 2nd Amendment with a keatonc33. Belligerent punk at first, I approached him casually. It went on for awhile than he dropped off.
My response to follow-ups was, “To all for the responses…My interpretation of Keaton was that he was fed and drank the kool-aid. BUT, he wanted to talk to someone with information… He didn’t hit and run like a lot of the trolls do. I just gave him another direction to think about.”
At times its good to tick them off.
Talk to you down the road pal!
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Psychosis
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:05pmthats an easy one
VALARIE JARRETT the hidden power behind EVERY decision this whitehouse makes
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HKS
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:13pmLogical, That would appear to be over Obama’s head.
“Remember Benghazi”
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Gary_K
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:15pmShe isn’t hidden anymore, she is up front and center.
I think she and barry were conjoined twins at one time.
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paperpushermj
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:03pmValeria Jarrett is the first person that comes to mind. All others in the WH would not be brazen enough plus would fear losing their jobs. This was politically driven to protect the President just 2 mo. before the election. So he is number 1 on my list.
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rd11ok
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:41pmAgreed.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:01pmOrders from Obama, it could have been no one else – past time for the treason trials to commence.
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mercenary4freedom
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:08pmobama & Jarrett of course. Don’t forget, comrade barry has Al Qaeda on their heels. He’s a ferocious community organizer.
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Spinmamma
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:10pmTalking about treason trials at this point is just plain silly and destroys our credibility. Get a grip. Not any different than the other side yelling “racist’ every five minutes. Time enough for talk like that if and when we have enough facts to prove a case. I believe the President made the decisions also, but forming a lynching mob doesn’t help. Only makes the reachable part of the left hunker down.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:13pmHa!
Keep dreaming. You must be in Colorado or Washington state. Pass the bong dude.
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:15pmBarry can’t tie his shoes without the approval of Valerie Jarret…
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Cavallo
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:45pmSnow, there is no way this is going anywhere. Even if bobo admitted on national TV that he personally watched, and orchestrated the cover up (for the good of the children because it was all Bush’s fault) impeachment would still not occur because the Dems hold the house and come hell or high water they will NEVER convict Obama of anything ever.. (unless he starts advocating free market reforms and individual liberty… then all bets are off.. but there is a snowball’s chance in hell of that.)
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fatsomann
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 2:51pmObama and Jarrett get my vote and Jarrett was the one on top.
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honor007
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:17pmexactly, Snow~
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