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Pastor Mark Driscoll Issues Dire ‘Twilight’ Warning to Christians: It’s ‘Sick, Twisted, Evil, Dangerous’ — Do You Agree? (Poll)

Nov. 19, 2012 2:54pm Billy Hallowell

Pastor Mark Driscoll of Mars Hill Church in Seattle, Washington, isn’t a Twilight fan. In fact, on his blog, the mega-pastor dubbed the popular book and film series “sick, twisted, evil, dangerous, deceptive, and popular,” also calling it “for teenage girls what porn is to teenage boys.”

The timing of the post is clearly relevant, considering that the movie franchise’s final installment, “The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn: Part 2,” entered theaters this past weekend. No stranger to speaking out against the vampire craze, Driscoll called the movement a “garbage-tastic phenomenon.”

“Tragically, many will be driven by their parents, including some cougar moms encouraging and joining their daughters’ obsession with handsome young males,” the pastor wrote.

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Pastor Mark Driscoll (Photo Credit: AP)

While some might consider these statements over-the-top (even Driscoll himself acknowledges that reaction to his words might be along those lines), the preacher notes some of the troubling media reports that have emerged of late. Kids, as he notes, have been drinking blood, cutting, biting and delving into the occult as a result of “Twilight” and other films and forms of entertainment like it.

Driscoll went on to note numerous media examples that showcase the film’s purported negative influence on young people. Here are a few of his media picks:

NBC News: “Teenagers obsessed with the Twilight vampire saga, or those simply fascinated with fangs, reportedly have been biting each other—hard—and then licking or sucking the blood. ‘These are kids who think they are real vampires,’ said Dr. Orly Avitzur. [. . .] ‘Having that thick, warm copper-tasting blood in my mouth is the best thing I can think of!’ wrote a teenager identified as ‘GothicGirl10’ this year. ‘Sometimes my boyfriend lets me feed off him. I let him feed off me as well.’”
ABC News: “Paola Hernandez, 15, said a boyfriend tried to pressure her to allow herself to be bitten. ‘He said, “I love you and that’s the way I want to show you,”’ she said. ‘I didn’t give in because it was kind of idiotic.’ She said some of her classmates, mimicking on-screen vampires, even cut their skin so they can taste one another’s blood. ‘That means you’re stuck with them, they have your blood inside of them and you have their blood and so you’re closer to each other,’ she said.”
The Week: “Lyle Monroe Bensley, 19, was arrested in his boxer shorts after he allegedly broke into the Galveston, Texas, home of a randomly chosen single woman, growled and hissed at her, dragged her down the hall, and tried to bite her on her neck. . . . When the police arrested Bensley a short time later, he told them he was a 500-year-old vampire. ‘He was begging us to restrain him because he didn’t want to kill us,’ says Galveston officer Daniel Erickson. ‘He said he needed to feed.’”

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After sharing these reports, Driscoll warned of Satan and his potentially damaging and intrusive methods of winning over the human heart and soul.

“He’s not going to come at us with a pitchfork and horns,” the preacher continued “More likely, he’ll attempt to lure people towards darkness with methods like ‘harmless’ entertainment, possibly in the form of bad acting and melodrama.”

Back in 2010, the pastor gave a sermon about dangerous themes being embedded into entertainment:

While Driscoll notes that he doesn’t believe it’s viable to embrace films like “Twilight” as harmless entertainment, he also claims that it’s important to refrain from sheltering children. In his own family, he and his wife speak openly to their kids about issues surrounding the occult and the dangers of blindly embracing this sort of entertainment.

“As a pastor and a father, I am particularly concerned for Christian parents who are naively allowing this filth into their children’s lives, buying these books and driving kids to see these movies,” he concluded.

Read Driscoll’s entire post, entitled, “A Father’s Fright of Twilight” here. Do you agree with the preacher’s analysis of the film? Do you think it’s dangerous to let your kids watch it? Take the poll:

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BlackCrow
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:30pm
Next they will be burning Dram Stocker and Mary Shelly’s books. If you want to spew this idiocy from your pulpit you have every right. But when you want to start banning books or films I have a problem with your hypocritical rants. You veil yourself in the first amendment but would deny that same protection to others?

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- deeberj
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:47pm
  Twilight makes the evil monsters be sexy and cool and teens want to be like them. That’s the problem with this series.
  
  No one asked for burning of the books. Can’t I give my opinion about the harmfulness of a book or movie without asking for it to be censured? I just want to warn people. I certainly don’t want to burn books.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:09pm
  I missed where he wanted to ban it. I think you should re-read the story. He said parents should keep their kids away from it. That’s not banning anything. Most Christians are weary of banning things because we know that the table can be turned on us. That being said, there are weak minded kids (and adults) who become obsessed with stuff like this. Especially, with the overwhelming marketing that comes with these movies (and books to a lesser extent). My 16 year old has read the books and knows it’s fantasy and silliness. Some kids can’t do that. If I had it to do over, I probably wouldn’t have let her read them.
  
  But, we’re not trying to ban anything.
  
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- SocietyOfUniversalKnowledge
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:16pm
  @blackcrow
  
  No where in this article or in his sermons does he advocate the burning of books or censuring of any type of media. He is simply warning others of the harmful effects and pointing out the more-than-obvious evidence to support those claims.
  
  Your overly dramatic reaction to something you have yourself inserted into this story is further evidence that you should remove the foot that’s in your mouth on the head that’s in your arse.
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:24pm
  This might be the dumbest story I have ever read on the blaze… and thats saying something!
  
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- sillyfreshness
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:33pm
  Most girls get all excited thinking about this movie. Then they grow up and become Obama voters. Goes to show that voting should be left to the professionals-people that have a stake in society.
  
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- Twinspeedr
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:52pm
  I don’t see anything about burning books here… this is just a spiritual leader encouraging other members of his faith to avoid the occult because of it’s insidious nature.
  
  Let them make books like this, it’s their right to do so. I just won’t buy them nor recommend them. It is about choice and this pastor hopes to influence people’s choice because he feels it is important take a hard look before they accept society’s stamp of “harmless” when there may be more to it than that.
  
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- wordsofwisdom
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:55pm
  The problem is not the film it’s the lack of intelligence in our children & our population. This is what the last 20 years of dumbing down of our schools to comply with the PC crowd demands coupled with union control of the curriculum & who teaches it have rout on us! One more reason to believe that this world is going terribly wrong in many ways. I hope I am wrong but things look a lot like this song says “The End Times” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10381143 So who knows we could be over?
  
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- burnteye86
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 5:00pm
  Blackcrow, you got a problem with the Holy Bible being banned from public schools?
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 5:00pm
  @Keatonc333
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:24pm
  
  This might be the dumbest story I have ever read on the blaze… and thats saying something
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  Maybe you’re not aware how naive kids (even the most sophisticated) can be to evil. In our town a few years ago, the kids saw some movies on seances and decided to hold their own at a party where the parents were upstars, they in a rec room. I drove a lot of these kids around and everyone of them told me of being haunted, having things thrown off shelves when they walked into rooms, waking to the feeling of being choked, or something pushing a pillow over their heads so they couldn’t breath. I was able to lead them to pray until God’s protection was something they felt. Some even talked of haunting dreams 2 years later. Kids who see evil as entertainment can’t be aware that it’s real and evidently you don’t eithr. (p.s. there’s an active occult group in our area, and from time to time the kids will tell of them trying to get them involved.) It’s real and if you don’t believe it you’re in a lot of danger as the days grow darker.
  
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- THERAPTURCOMES
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 5:28pm
  Yes it is very dangerous and is a sign of the end times but know this, there are other signs and APOSTASY is one of the greatest.
  
  Driscal is a Calvinist and a Calvinist is a wolf in sheep’s clothing the preaches another gospel Gal 1:8-9
  
  These indeed are the end times and discernment has all but vanished. We as Christians need be spreading the TRUE REAL gospel of Jesus Christ Romans 10:9-10 and not the satanic version that Driscal teaches
  
  We also need to make AFTER RAPTURE PACKETS for a world that soon will be left behind http://youtu.be/ahEVxIzlxwo
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 5:28pm
  This is the kind of guy who would go on a rant for an hour about a movie called Sorcerer, only to find out that in fact – Sorcerer is a movie about truck drivers in the rainforest.
  
  Christians are typically ill informed when it comes to pop culture, but does this guy really think all those books are from the same series? I hope not… This is just another example of someone not understanding anything about today’s popular culture. Which should work awesome inticing people on The Blaze.
  
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- BuzzardSays
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 5:32pm
  We should ban Twilight Movies and the occult as a tit-for-tat response to all atheists who want to ban my bible and signs or engravings of the Ten Commandments and Prayer at Football Games or Commencements.
  
  You see decent people see a problem with humans filling their minds with trash. People with minds already full of trash want to keep receiving more and more of the same. Like a drug adled junky searching for the next fix. I’ll bet you watch crap like the Walking Dead?
  
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- Skunkherder
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 5:36pm
  It is not about “banning books” or first amendments rights, it is about what we personally choose to subject ourselves to, and allow our children to be subjected to. He isn’t saying the books should be banned, he is saying that Christian parents need to wake up to what their kids are getting watching and reading.
  
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- Misty Williams
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 5:41pm
  I *can* see where these books & films & the Harry Potter books & films before it, could be construed as an occult or Satanic threat to people who don’t have the ability or desire to discern a completely fictional world with fictional parameters from the real world. Worse, who feel so miserable here in the real world, that they are desperately seeking relief from heartache, or abuse, or monotony in a fantasy world that becomes too real to them. A world where they finally feel special, some sense of power in their existence, accepted & belonging. For kids who have had God stripped daily lives from the time they entered Head Start, whose families are broken, or just hectic, or apathetic & disinterested, the occult & these fantasy stories are incredibly appealing. Yes, a lonely, empty person *will* sell their soul to feel wanted, or like they belong, or like they have control over something in their lives. However, I tend to believe that if one wants to find Satan, one will find him, & his minions, wherever they look. You can find God in a powerful storm. You can see the work of Satan in that as well, if that’s what you believe & revere. If you’re foolish enough to suck blood from another being trying to be a “real” vampire, there is something else very wrong. The stories aren’t the fault.
  
  I agree with the pastor in this: Parents need to set the example in discernment. If a child is not capable of discerning or wanting to discern, fantasy ANYTHING should be off limits
  
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- WhiteFang
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 5:56pm
  According to the Blaze Poll; 37% of this audience thinks witchcraft, zombies, and such is acceptable. They consider it as harmless fun.
  
  What does our God think about it?
  
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- P8riot
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 5:58pm
  yet this guy is completely silent regarding movies like SAW and the movies that come out every weekend with sex scenes/nudity.
  
  I would have a lot more respect for this guy if he simply stood against ALL movies that offend the Holy Spirit… not just the ones that will get him on the news.
  
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- AmericanFightingMan1
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 6:24pm
  Long ago, as a part of our heritage (western man), our ancestors taught lessons through story.
  
  We had children’s stories like The Pied Piper, Little Red Riding Hood, The Three Little Pigs, The Emperor’s New Clothes, Hansel and Grettel, Rumplestilskin, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, etc. The stories were fun for the children, but they were intended for so much more. What?
  
  To arm our children with awareness, caution, courage, and a radar for danger. In the 1960′s, these old stories were phased out. Replacing them were Scooby Doo, Power Rangers, Spongebob, etc. Children liked these stories for the same reasons (entertainment), but were left without any redeeming value from the stories. It is like going from eating your vegetables to eating only Twinkies.
  
  The Twighlight series is the same, but it does more. It drives into our children a demonic message. You can either see it or not. If you are unsure, pull you head up from the sand and look around at the world. Is it going well? Are we on the right path as a society?
  
  Poison it is. Then it just is a matter of courage to protect your children.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 7:10pm
  @Fightingman
  
  “We had children’s stories like The Pied Piper, Little Red Riding Hood, The Three Little Pigs, The Emperor’s New Clothes, Hansel and Grettel, Rumplestilskin, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, etc. The stories were fun for the children, but they were intended for so much more. What?
  
  To arm our children with awareness, caution, courage, and a radar for danger.”
  
  … have you read the Brothers Grimm? They weren’t (always) to teach lessons; they were collections of folklore from Europe. They were not children’s stories: indeed, many of the stories featured children being tortured, killed, and sometimes eaten. The stories you’re referring to are likely “sanitized” versions of the original tales; for example, was the evil stepmother in Snow Wife forced to dance at Snow White’s wedding with shoes that burned her alive? Likely not.
  
  “The Twighlight series is the same, but it does more. It drives into our children a demonic message. You can either see it or not.”
  
  Oh please. The only thing demonic about Twilight is that it became so popular. Know what the overarching theme is? “A Mormon woman writes about vampires although she has no idea what they do besides drink blood, and her idea of true love is to have a 108 year old man stalk a 17 year old girl, marry her, impregnate her, and (spoiler alert) get her killed during childbirth.” It’s all about forbidden romance, and it’s terribly written. That’s it.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 7:32pm
  Is the Rev wearing Chuck Taylors? SK8 or die Rev!
  
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- Palter
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 7:58pm
  Milf mom, your story sounds familiar to me…… Are you sure that was not something coming out from William Blatty’s book?
  
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- kitchenjoe
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 8:04pm
  So typical, no one says anything about banning or burning, but for sensation, and with a lack of factual information, to make sensational charges to get a point made. Try again, this time with facts. Oh and a question, should we have movies that encourage mass murder or abuse and bullies? Should we also promote pedophilia? You get the point.
  
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- StandingOnMyHead
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 8:10pm
  SILLY: Your response is just like your name implies, just plain SILLY!
  
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- black9897
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 8:21pm
  Fake creatures (vampires) is not something to be worried about. It’s a romance story. He’s wasting his time talking about, and even more absurd is saying it’s dangerous.
  
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- StandingOnMyHead
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 8:22pm
  SILLY: My apologies, there were a lot of SILLY responses on this first thread. Wow, do you all really believe we are that far gone as a society that we no longer recognize fact from fiction? A sad, sad, state we are in if that is truly the case. Look up the meaning of “fable literary genre”, these are stories written to tell a moral story. Twilight and Harry Potter are nothing more than modern day fable literary writings. Get a real life people!
  
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- ToddH
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 8:57pm
  I don’t have a problem with anything the pastor is saying because he ends the whole thing with encouraging parents not to shelter the kids from it but rather to speak with them about it and to see it as a teachable moment. He’s right on the money there.
  With all of his focus on Twilight though, it leaves me curious to know what he would think of the Harry Potter series.
  Anyway, he found an interesting list of dumb teens doing dumb stuff in America because they are completely bored. Kids just need something positive to do so they don’t bite eachother and drink blood, but even if they have to do that once in their lifetime, it’s because they are kids and curious to see if there is some truth to all of this “magic” they see in the movies. They will grow up like the rest of us and discover the real world is mind-numbingly boring and licking blood was no more cool nor sexy in reality than licking puss would be.
  
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- ToddH
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 9:09pm
  Let me just add also that I feel really sorry for teen girls today.
  Trying to think if I need to add any more to that.
  No, I just feel pretty sorry for them. Twilight? Poor teen girls.
  
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- Michelle44
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 9:49pm
  Wake UP people,, this is pure fantasy,,,, NOT realality,,, can’t people tell the differance? I mean really,,can’t hide from everything out there,, people are goofy in the first place if they take this to another level beyond what is real and what isn’t…….I don’t think kids think they can leap tall buildings in one single bound either,,, Gee whizzz.zzzz
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 9:52pm
  These books and movies promote evil as do the Harry Potter books. There are other signs more important, but I see this as a herald of the end of the world. These books promote the Evil Arts and practices as something to be admired, not rejected.
  
  The Bible was clear on this point. The Holy Bible rejects these practices:
  
  A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
  
  You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
  
  By reading these books, America’s children are worshiping and emulating those same entities that were condemned by the Lord to death by big rocks being thrown with force against their living bodies until they bled to death from the blows or their skulls crushed by the righteous in their Holy wrath.
  
  The very idea that parents would knowingly allow their children to read these books is revolting to me, especially given the fate to which they are condemned by those who would uphold Biblical Law.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 9:59pm
  @Sendthemeteors
  
  “By reading these books, America’s children are worshiping and emulating those same entities that were condemned by the Lord to death by big rocks being thrown with force against their living bodies until they bled to death from the blows or their skulls crushed by the righteous in their Holy wrath.”
  
  I read The Chronicles of Narnia as a child. Does this mean that I worshiped a talking Lion, or that I rightly took away from the series that it was an allusion to the Bible and Jesus Christ?
  
  I also read Ender’s Game. Does this mean that I thought I was made to kill alien invaders, or did I take away from it that it was science FICTION?
  
  Your either coddle, underestimate, or purposely ****** your children by trying to hide them from literature. Make sure they know what fiction really is, and LET THEM READ. Goodness, have we really devolved to a state where reading books is considered immoral? The Middle Ages called: they want their views back!
  
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- HappyConservative
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 10:12pm
  We have so may more serious problems in this world than a silly movie aimed at teenage girls. Blaze I am not sure why this is news but bottom line is – who cares!? Lots of crappy movies out there. It’s up to parents to screen what their kids see and theaters to card.
  
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- HappyConservative
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 10:14pm
  And furthermore, satan dwells in our presidency and adminstration more so than a silly movie. This guy should be going after barry!!!
  
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- dukestreet
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 10:42pm
  Kids, especially teenagers are highly influenced by what they see and hear around them. I would never have believed it as a kid but discovered the truth for myself. I came from a household where swearing was not permitted and would result in unpleasant consequences if caught. I distinctly remember going to watch “Love Story” with a friend. I remember coming out of the cinema and both of us were swearing a blue streak all the way walking home. I recall thinking that the language in the movie had had a terrible effect on both of us. It had a permanent impact. My estimation of a person automatically goes down quite a lot if they are unable to speak without swearing.
  
  I think that the failure to demand moral thinking and actions from the sixties on has seriously affected western society. There is so much relativism that people are often unable to distinguish between right and wrong,since it is no longer expected. People with morals are often considered to be bigoted and rigid. Trust has become a serious issue. I really believe that the voting in the US election was fixed by democrats and I’m looking in from the outside.
  
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- ModerationIsBest
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 10:52pm
  I love it when they say things like this.
  
  Shows how fragile their “faith” is that they are afraid books and movies will shake their foundation.
  
  Apparently religion is afraid of fantasy and fairytales….oops, maybe because that’s what their entire religion is based around.
  
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- Brooke Lorren
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 11:06pm
  The Bible says in Philippians 4:8 “Whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report, if there be any virtue, if there be any praise, think on these things.” (I was too lazy to go look it up, so I had my daughter recite it to me… if I get a few words wrong, you can blame her). Twilight really doesn’t fit into that.
  
  I’ve been familiar with Mark Driscoll for quite a while… they used to run some of his preaching on Way of the Master Radio. He’s quite conservative, so I don’t think that he’d approve of taking your kids to go see Saw or the Harry Potter series either. I’m sure that my pastor wouldn’t approve of any of the above either… Driscoll just happens to have a much larger following than my preacher, which is why you don’t see him in this article instead. Probably most very conservative, Bible preaching pastors would agree. Those that don’t take the Bible 100% literally might not feel the same way.
  
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- cmoursler
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 11:37pm
  He isn’t saying ban it…he is telling Christians not to watch it. I don’t care about the vampire aspect…that is just silly. All I care about is the paradigm in the primary relationship. Which seems to be “boy stalks girl, boy mentally abuses girl, boy gets girl.” The relationship itself is toxic…apart from the bad writing and terrible acting. Stop saying anyone who says ‘don’t watch something’ wants to ban books. It’s as bad as actually burning one..people have the right to their own religious opinion, regardless of what you think of religion.
  
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- Pontiaku
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:10am
  burnteye86
  [Blackcrow, you got a problem with the Holy Bible being banned from public schools?]
  Are you a school student? Personal use is not banned. By all means take your bible to school with you and read it on your free time. However public schools are not religious propaganda machines and should you try to make them such you will be swatted down by the constitution.
  
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- MadAsHeII
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:40am
  It seems to me that his main objective here is to demonize the LDS church, and maybe Romney included. Come on. I am Mormon, but my first name is Jack. However, I am not a Mormon basher, I believe they do a lot of good for families and their children. I do believe, however, that they are misguided by their belief, and that they lay a groundwork that is impossible for the average person to follow in order to have the sense that they are doing the will of God and Christ, which leads to destruction of their self worth. That is my opinion, but I do not agree with this pastors rendition of why the LDS Church is wrong.
  
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- quiet little lamb
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:47am
  Funny, my father is a preacher and he watched Twilight with my niece and neither one of them went crazy for blood. Preacher’s like this need a chill pill. amazing how people shut up about how evil Ann rice’s books were once she became a christian. Now they are just “Misguided Times”
  
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- bluntforce
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:31am
  Burning books? Nah, the pastor is just warning people about the stupidity of teenager’s. The book burning and banning of legal substances like tobacco and soda pop we leave to you leftists.
  
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- enzomedici
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:11am
  Christianity and the lunatics that follow it are the real danger.
  
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- U4eeeahhh
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:27am
  @ Misty, You say “threat to people who don’t have the ability or desire to discern a completely fictional world with fictional parameters from the real world.” You mean Christians? You have these kids, raised in the myths of the supernatural that is Christianity presented with a more attractive mythology and they switch teams. Why? Because you have conditioned them to NOT be rational thinkers and to reject ALL superstitions and supernatural. Their ability to discern fiction comes from the fiction you feed them are truth.
  
  About 8 years ago I worked on a screenplay for a studio that cast Jesus as the original Zombie. [I was the story editor]. He rose from the dead, eating his flesh is part of Communion, blood drinking, all of that is really the origin of the Walking Dead and His return is to be as a Zombie god. A small cult on an island in the Mediterranean had a couple of 2000 year old Apostle-Zombie as religious relics who awaken and then get free, chaos ensues as they look for the real tomb where the trapped Zombie Jesus awaits his release and return as he has promised. Far as I know it never got into production, but it could have been fun as heck, sick but fun.
  
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- Commander8080
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:38am
  Jumping to conclusion on banning books; therefore, I will not went on that. However unlike the classics were evil is on its true form. These bookea and movies open the person who reads it orvvieq theovie to great harm because of they way evil is portraid. It does it shows evil as something to be desired and not reframed from.
  
  The evil is there and parents need to protect their.children
  
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- FatFreedom
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:46am
  Burning book! what are you talking about. You can let your kids read this trash, watch TV and have full access to the internet if you want to.. You are the one that have to watch how they turn out.
  
  For me and my house we will serve the Lord. To us that means No TV, no texting, public email, and only supervised internet use, and limited approved friends and no dating and obviously homeschooling.
  
  The price for being such a parent is:
  Good students
  Respectful teenagers
  Content teenagers
  Happy teenagers
  Great family relationships
  
  Wake up and don’t let this immoral society raise your kids. If you don’t like your teenagers, chances are that they already see their friends and pop culture as family, as they try to placate you the parent while they still are under your roof, but their heart is not with you.
  
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- KennyG920
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:05am
  The real problem is this is the same nonsense spewed about how ‘violent video games’ and ‘violent movies’ cause people to commit crime. What people really need is some judgement, accountability, and personal responsibility. Its just a movie, not an excuse to behave like morons, sheesh…
  
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- black9897
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:44pm
  @FATFREEDOM
  
  That’s some pretty strict rules. Not that I’m telling you what to do, but I would be careful with being too strict.
  
  TV, I don’t blame you..there’s really nothing worth watching these days. Very few good shows. No texting…if you can afford it there’s nothing wrong with it. You should be careful with internet and who their friends are, but I think that’s on the waay to strict side. No dating? Good luck preventing that one. Nothing wrong with kids dating. In fact, in trying to prevent that and some of the stuff you listed, you will only drive them away and create problems. Don’t want your kids too sheltered. I can personally speak about homeschool since I was homeschooled from K-8th grade. Went to a Christian high school 9th-12th. Nothing wrong with homeschooling, although there might come a time when they want to try going to school and there’s nothing wrong with that either. I know I loved by high school experience and I am very glad my parents made that choice.
  
  It’s important to strike a balance between having boundaries and letting them have freedom. Reasonable boundaries are great, but freedom is also great.
  Bad things can happen if you’re too strict (drives kids away, rebellion) and have no boundaries (they may think anything is ok, no guidance which could lead them to fall for anything).
  
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- phoenicianflux
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:30pm
  If Twilight is “girl porn”, the all the mom’s better be ready throw out all their Jane Austin, Janette Oak, & Amish romance novels as well. Blaming Twilight for creating vampire wanna-bes is like blaming the Jonas Bothers for creating Marylin Manson fans. What I don’t get is that there is a secular trend SUPPORTING waiting for sex until marriage, & Mark Driscoll is calling it “filth”? It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
  
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- FatFreedom
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:47pm
  Burn books! What hysteria. It sounds to me that you are trying to silence opinions you don’t like, like the left, that will never discuss the issue raised that they don’t agree with. They just attack people for bringing it up in the first place as a diversion.
  
  You go ahead and let your kids read such trash. I for one won’t, and I commend people for speaking up against trashy entertainment like twilight.
  
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- FatFreedom
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:49pm
  You are crazy talking about burning books! What hysteria. It sounds to me that you are trying to silence opinions you don’t like, like the left, that will never discuss the issue raised that they don’t agree with. They just attack people for bringing it up in the first place as a diversion.
  
  You go ahead and let your kids read such trash. I for one won’t, and I commend people for speaking up against trashy entertainment like twilight. This entertainment is one of the favorite tools of the devil. Just look around the old serpent has been very successful in ruining the moral character of this once great nation.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:15am
  @Fatfreedom
  
  “You are crazy talking about burning books! What hysteria. It sounds to me that you are trying to silence opinions you don’t like”
  
  … says the man who refuses to let his kids watch TV, have friends he disagrees with, doesn’t allow texting, refuses to let them attend a school (public or private), won’t allow them to date, and actively monitors all their internet access and personal communications?
  
  No offense, but it sounds like you’re also trying to silence opinions you don’t like – ie, any but your own. You might have the best of intentions, but not allowing kids a chance to… y’know, be kids and make mistakes… will severely hamper them socially and emotionally. I suggest stepping back a bit. My two cents.
  
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mruspm
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:30pm
Gosh what a joke, I’m a Christian Conservative and we’ve had vampire movies, which movies etc all my life and I’m not biting people or casting spells… the Pastor should really be asking why so many kids in the ‘church’ are turning to such vulgar acts, it’s because they find no fun or peace within the ‘church’, plain and simple….. so Driscoll back at you…. I did youth group as a chaperon and I see how the leaders are attracted to the ‘norm’ kids and not the abnormal……… I’m going to see Twilight tonight, I fear no harm to my soul…

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- shimauma42
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:39pm
  I discern from your comment that you’ve never read the verse in the Bible that says “For as he thinks in his heart, so is he.” – Proverbs 23:7 (basically Garbage in/Garbage out)
  
  Be careful little eyes what you see…it’s the second glance that ties your hands as darkness pulls the string.
  
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- deeberj
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:52pm
  Vampire movies now are so different than the old ones. The vampires are no longer evil. When the monsters become the good guys kids get all confused.
  
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- wingnut1955
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:00pm
  @mruspm Yes, you and I watched vampire movies in the past. These are different times. Sin and depravity reign and Christians values are mocked. We elect a President who will not defend his own soldiers. He supports the “gay” community. He supports the killing of babies in abortion. He will not even support keeping a baby alive who survives an abortion. Clearly the times they are a changing, and not for the good. I see Christ’s return is coming very soon.
  
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- kadster01
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:13pm
  @GOURDY
  
  Exactly. When I was a teenager, I heard this pastor going on and on about backward masking on rock albums. He played several examples and my reaction was,” Hey, that song sounds kinda cool!” Then I promptly went out and added to my music collection.
  
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- VRW Conspirator
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:18pm
  I think y’all here have hit the nail on the head. It isn’t the “vampire persona” that is the problem but the fact that hollywood and literature now GLORIFY the vampire as sexually appealing, desirable to the masses (look at the Vampire Dairies tv show), and just another “life style choice.”
  Bram Stoker and Mary Shelley used the monster that was Dracula and Frankenstein to make commentary about the world around them and the EVIL that is in the soul of mankind. Dracula wasn’t a sympathetic misunderstood character. He was the embodiment of all that was evil. He manipulated people, bribed them, lived off the perverse and demented of society, and killed them without remorse simply to satisfy his own hunger. It was only the HOLY that could fight him, the brave, courageous, the valiant and noble of spirit and heart that could resist him.
  Frankenstein wasn’t the monster, the Dr. was. He created something but his creation actually was more human and sympathetic then he was. The creature showed compassion, sacrifice, and love while those attacking him and the one that created him were vile, evil, judgmental, and close minded.
  Today vampires and werewolves are sexy, better, stronger, more desirable, more intelligent, and just a secret type of life that draws you in. They are the “IN” thing to be and do and in that lies the perversion and danger. Satan takes and twists the normal to make it evil.
  
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- SpectreRogziel
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:54pm
  @VRW CONSPIRATOR
  I just want to point out that Frankenstein is the Doctor not his creation. For some strange reason people who must have never read the books started calling the monster (or as Doctor Victor Frankenstein often called him, the fiend) Frankenstein and it caught on. Also I’d say that they are both monsters in their own very human ways.
  
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- Jenny Lind
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 5:22pm
  Shimauma42, you said exactly what I a was thinking-garbage in, garbage out. We, as Christians and Jews, are supposed to be discering in what we put in our mind, to feed our souls as it were, and try to uplift our souls with good things and truth. Young girls go through the dreamy make-believe thing as they grow up, and romantic daydreams and “secret” talks to like-minded girls. It is our job as parents to take these things and lovingly guide our kids to understand the difference between real and make believe, between what a faith centered verses the world centered life gives, which is true happiness. Same with young “hero” males need to earn. The difference between temporary and life long happiness, and contentment. I have aways loved to read, anything and everything, but when I hit something in a book I am not wanting to read out loud to my family, I get rid of the book-back to the library or into the trash.
  
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- AmericanFightingMan1
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 7:09pm
  Maybe older generations could weather old vampire movies because they also had more faith in their lives?
  
  Modern culture is so prevelant with messages of sex and violence. It is in everything now. Music, movies, t.v., magazines, etc. The message of faith is drowned out. Back when we were young, it was not so overwhelming.
  
  I hear more and more of people opting to not have a family because they would not want to bring a child into this world. Wow. Tells you something right there.
  
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- Twinspeedr
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 7:40pm
  @mruspm
  
  Joke eh? Scripture teaches that we become what we see and hear. When you are befriend the world you become an enemy of God. Isn’t that right? You either follow what Scripture says or you blow off parts that you don’t like. You CANNOT temper Scripture with the things of Man. The opposite is what God intended, hello?
  
  Wide is the path and easy the way that leads to destruction, right? But this isn’t what Jesus meant by that, was it? Naw! Go on! and play voyeur to salacious sex-laden stories of the occult and undead, it’s so much more fun than spending your time reading and learning about God’s ways and his truth from the Scripture, eh?
  
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- phoenicianflux
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:10pm
  What the church is missing here is that there is a trend toward supernatural/eternal love/life…Hello!? Minister some Jesus to it! Christians need to believe the God is more capable in reaching the lost through a story than the devil is of decieving them by it….at least that is what my prayer/attitude is.
  
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conservative karl
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:29pm
dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb books… Stupid girl sex/relationship fantasy story… Plus can you say anticlimactic? The least the author could have done is end the series with a major bloody battle where one or more of the main characters dies. my wife said if I read them I could buy a new gun… worst trade ever! I shoulda gotten more guns out of the hours of my life I will never get back. still frustrates me even after two years! stupid!

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- Gourdy
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:37pm
  He started out as a “youth pastor” who has clearly gotten a bit long in the tooth and increasingly irrelevant to young Christians. The thing he doesn’t realize is that even talking about the Twilight books will make most of his congregation groan and roll their eyes. Talk about uncool!
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:13pm
  @GOURDY
  
  He will answer to God for the godliness of the kids he preaches to. Not their coolness. Priorities…..
  
  Jesus was so uncool that they killed Him. “Friendship with the world is enmity with God”
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 5:08pm
  @SquidVetOhio
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:13pm
  
  @GOURDY
  
  He will answer to God for the godliness of the kids he preaches to. Not their coolness. Priorities…..
  
  Jesus was so uncool that they killed Him. “Friendship with the world is enmity with God”
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  If we had a “Like” button you’d reset the counter. As is I’ll say a LOUD AMEN!!!
  
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twelvegooses
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:26pm
The series was simply entertainment…take it or leave it, but don’t tell me how to think or feel about it…I suspect the preacher man is looking for fame, fortune and a place to pass the hat…I love it when individuals are horrified by something but can not take their eyes off of it or cause a scene so others who would other wise ignore the thing, take a look…don’t we have enough to worry about other than a movie…how about the Second Amendment and the Constitution that is being trampled as we sit and worry over make believe? Come back to earth preacher…

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- Mil Mom
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 5:16pm
  @twelvegooses
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:26pm
  
  The series was simply entertainment…take it or leave it, but don’t tell me how to think or feel about it…I suspect the preacher man is looking for fame, fortune and a place to pass the hat…I love it when individuals are horrified by something but can not take their eyes off of it or cause a scene so others who would other wise ignore the thing, take a look…don’t we have enough to worry about other than a movie…how about the Second Amendment and the Constitution that is being trampled as we sit and worry over make believe? Come back to earth preacher
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  Did you not read the part of the story that told of kids obsessed with it who are cutting themselves to suck the blood, or biting each other to suck the blood? THAT’S EVIL GETTING INTO THEIR LIVES AND HEARTS. When I was a kid we often had animals as pets which had been orphaned and raised from babies. I well remember many adults telling me about a young fox a friend had raised which killed a chicken. They all said that “once it’s got a taste for blood, there’s no turning back. It will be consumed for the desire for blood and the safety of anyone and anything weak will be compromised. I fear it’s very like that with many young people. We live in a sick society. Remember all the stories of the people on “Bath Salts” (a drug) getting naked and biting other people and sucking their blood?
  
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Angel_light
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:25pm
IMO I think the whole Twilight saga is being dragged out for too long. They’re trying to pull the same crap that the harry potter series did and make one book into more than one movie. all about the money they make. It’s old.

my sister likes this series but she doesn’t go around pretending vampires exist or whatever. some people know fact from fantasy and don’t let it get to their head.

I am religious but I know they are just stories. the true evil would be people trying to imitate it. I like stories about dragons; does that make me a sinner? (that’s a rhetorical question I really don’t care what anyone thinks)

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flatbroke
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:25pm
Twilight is dangerous to the dumb, as are guns, knives, cars, forks, spoons, electrical appliances, all yard tools. its just a damn movie serise FCOL!

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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:24pm
definately worse than the harry potter stuf

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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:31pm
  And that’s saying a lot, as Harry Potter sucked wind, bad, after the first movie. And I wasn’t particularly fond of the first one, but at least it had an interesting premise (well, semi-interesting if you will).
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 7:28pm
  The first four Harry Potter Movies were lame.. the last few were quite good though…
  
  I really liked all of the books.
  
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- yiska8
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 9:22pm
  Never into the books or the films for Potter or this Twilight crap. Kids are stupid and parents are lazy and refuse to grow up themselves. No one in the films from all the never ending previews tell me one thing… there’s a massive shortage of well trained or classically trained actors and if any of these kids had that kind of money spent on them for classes, it wasn’t enough. I prefer the vampire film with Gary Oldman anyway. Books are entertainment and so are films, but when kids have zero parenting and live online in fantasyland, it will lead to psycho stories like the ones mentioned above. These kids really need a life ‘offline’ and I so I agree with Driscoll on this one. Our society is in a tailspin, so the Preacher has a point. I think there are far better stories in the Bible that are far more entertaining and teach you something if people would only pick one up and read one. But I guess, if “Fifty Shades of Gray” is replacing Bibles in hotel rooms, you know morality is pretty much extinct. Preach on!!
  
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- resme
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 11:08pm
  “The first four Harry Potter Movies were lame.. the last few were quite good though…
  
  I really liked all of the books.”
  
  The movies left out way too much.. Now the hobbit is going to be 3 Parts. Each part of Harry Potter should have been 6 hours long :) .
  
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FROTHYDISCHARGE
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:24pm
These are the same self righteous people that stayed at home and gave us Obama 2 because Romney is a Mormon. By the Way Twilight, written by a Mormon! hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah

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- The Jewish Avenger
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:33pm
  18,000 just lost their job and Ohio just got a cut of $50 from their food stamps and Isreal has has what about 1,000 missiles shot at their PRIVATE CITIZENS!
  
  Bwahaha.
  
  Ya, you sure are funny.
  
  Oh and also your going to lose about 7-10% more of your paycheck to Obamacare that’ll IN TURN cause all prices to jump at LEAST 10-15%. Please, tell me something else that funny.
  
  He hates how the blind (cougar moms) are leading the blind (their teen daughters)
  
  And somehow you corelate that how Obama and Demothieves stole the election.
  
  Whatever.
  
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- saranda
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:56pm
  Did not know she was lds. Really happy now my daughters did not buy into the books or movies. Tithing to build malls and buy radio stations is not very christian.
  
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- P8riot
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 5:19pm
  @SARANDA –
  
  Unfortunately, you do not understand how our tithing is spent by the Church. For a quick and simple tutorial, please visit the following website.
  
  http://mormon.org/faq/purpose-of-tithing/
  
  You will notice that none of your averments are supported. PLEASE find a new hobby other than surfing theblaze looking for ANY comment about members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to post faulty information regarding our faith. We all get it… you don’t like us. However, your dislike of our religion is unwarranted. I hope that you can one day find enough peace in your life to love all your brothers and sisters and to cease fighting against Christ’s Church.
  
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InfiniteSolutions
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:22pm
This is not the only dangerous movies out there. There is an obsession of fantasy, foul mouthed, sex oriented, violent, sadistic, evil and bad plot movies out there. In fact, the majority of movies these days are garbage and I wouldn’t let my kids watch them. When is the hollywood type industry going to be made accountable for all the damage they have done to society. There’s a responsibility in everything we do and how it influences our youth, but the movie industry and not the only damage being done. Look at our schools, corporations, food industries and the corruption these industry’s bring. For heavens sake, how about all the time people watch TV and all the commercials and sexual overtones.

What ever happened to the old black and white movies with the nice music. I like some of the new movies out and you can find some film being produced worth watching. Just need to be very selective, like the school you send your children too. I say we need to listen to Pastor Mark Driscoll, he knows what he’s talking about and it’s not extreme or over the top. It’s real!!

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- wowjustwow
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:39pm
  Why “we”…you have every right to turn off your tv and forbid certain books in your house. Just don’t tread on my right to do what I want.
  
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- InfiniteSolutions
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:30pm
  I’m not treading on anyone, I just don’t like the bulldozer affect of all this crap. People need to wise up and turn it off, “including you”. We have evolved into some familiar to beast, at least this is the direction society if moving towards. We need to stand up and say it’s wrong, not hush it. We need to clearly call it what it is, evil…….
  
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- bigpew
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 7:07pm
  @Infinitesolutions
  Amen. You are absolutely right. The ruler of the air is not for us. The biggest problem with society today is that thing it watches every day.
  
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soap on a rope
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:18pm
I think the series sends a bad message, but not for the reasons the Pastor cites. A real life Edward would be an abusive stalker. This is not what we should be teaching young people to aspire to.

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- The Jewish Avenger
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:35pm
  Didn’t know that.
  
  Another reason to not let my girls read this twinkie gooey crap.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 7:35pm
  JEW AVENGER…
  
  good luck with that… you gonna burn their eyes with acid? …. they’ll find the Braille version…
  
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:14pm
Are the girls who think the werewolf kid is sexier then the vampire biting pieces off each other and eating stray cats? If not, then it’s just play acting and they’ll get over it. They may be embarrassed when they remember that they once enjoyed pretending to be vampires, but it won’t be any worse than remembering that they once mistook Twilight for literature and cinema.

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AmericaMustBeFree
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:14pm
If kids are following this movie and trying to do these things to each other then clearly our children are in trouble spiritually and morally! We are losing a generation of them!

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- chucksue351
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:31pm
  we have lost a lot of generations, where are the parents of these teens, they are the sick ones
  
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smokeysmoke
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:12pm
the movies are silly…. who cares, why dosent this preacher go back and punish those who made army of darkness and cool as ice… if he was really honost he would not be going after just some filth… and he only gets media attention becuase TWILIGHT IS FAMOUS…

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- Cavallo
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:18pm
  Army of Darkness is orders of magnitude better than Twhinelight.
  
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- Depressed_American
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:19pm
  Hey, let’s not beat up on the Army of Darkness Movie, Bruce Campbell at his best….. (the sequels you can beat up on….)
  
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- Kupo
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:28pm
  There isn’t any sequel to Army of Darkness.
  
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- Classical Liberal
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 11:15pm
  > referring to twilight and the evil dead trilogy in the same sentence and putting them on the same level.
  
  OH IT IS ON!!! YOU DONE WENT AND &@$$@& UP NOW!!!
  
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- not a liberal
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 11:44pm
  i think the fact that it is famous is the reason he attacked it. while one movie or book may not corrupt there is a whole slew of nonsense out there. being homosexual used to be taboo but the media has shown it to be “normal” and look how prevalent it has become
  
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Cavallo
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:11pm
Yes, but for completely different reasons than what Pastor Mark thinks. The characters are dumb the acting is moronic, the plot is simplistic and contrived to a point that it makes Harry Potter seem like Pride and Prejudice. It takes a warps good horror genre into nauseating emo teen angst cardboard cutout idiocy. The entire series rides on the adolescent unstable teenage hormones of its target audience. On its merits, you can weed out the worthless human beings by those who are its fans. Should be on job applications, “Are you a fan of the Twilight series movie/books?” if they answer yes toss the application into the circular file because the applicant is likely now, or soon will be, on an excessive amount of anti-depressants and other assorted pharmaceuticals meant to stabilize brain chemistry. You just don’t need that kind of crap in the office.

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Depressed_American
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:10pm
It’s only a movie, which I have never really liked the whole series, BUT you do have nut-balls who can’t distinguish Fantasy from Reality……..

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Locked
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:09pm
The stories are terribly written and are horrendous “dating advice,” but this preacher is just nuts.

The books (and movies) should be avoided because they’re bad, not because they’re evil.

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booger71
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:06pm
So this twilight thing is about vampires?

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- Gourdy
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:13pm
  They’re not the rip-a-throat-out vampires we know. These are more moody, angst-ridden teen vampires who never seem to drink a lot of blood. They just swing around treetops in Washington State and swoon a lot.
  
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- Balpit
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:48pm
  Mark Driscoll’s right about Twilight being a “garbage-tastic phenomenon”, though.
  Instead of dying in sunlight, the vampires SHINE in sunlight.
  Stephanie Meyer’s artistic license needs to be revoked.
  
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Thornyrose13
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:06pm
Kids obsess easily. While I find the idea of vampire protagonists disturbing, it is bloody fiction! There are always some who take their obsessions too far, and make fodder for news reports. Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings…just about any subject or book that grabs the imagination of large numbers of people have been proclaimed evil/satanic. Raise your kids right, they will get through it. Raise them wrong, and there are enough real world role models to lead them astray.

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- Tractorboy
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 6:19pm
  So this stuff Helps, or does it hurt?………Me thinks hurt, it’s dark garbage, seems the secular world can’t pump out enough dark garbage to corrupt morals, the violence and gore is meant to desensitize, I’m sure satan would aprove.
  
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black9897
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:06pm
I’ve seen them all. Never cared for them. I’m more worried that 82 people voted yes and 25 people voted “i’m in the middle.” It’s an obvious No.

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- The Jewish Avenger
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:28pm
  Vampires since their introduction can be argued back to when Paul introduced Christianity to the Romans.
  
  But to get to a somewhat recent point
  
  They have been for almost 200 years known to be…
  
  - Afraid of looking at Jesus
  - Could be burned and have flesh destroyed by water blessed in the name of God
  - The sun, created only by God spoken word, can disengrate a vampire with only a seeping ray coming over the horizon.
  
  Fast forward to 21st century
  
  They’re homosexual or bi-sexual and they also….
  
  wait for it…
  
  - sparkle when the suns rays hit them…
  - no longer demons
  - God is now removed (Stop me if you have heard that before) as a stopping power.
  - And they all just wanna get along
  
  awwwww…..
  
  Ya, I have a problem with it.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 7:39pm
  They’re also imaginary.
  
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- black9897
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 8:17pm
  Doesn’t matter. No one goes around thinking they like vampires and hate God. There are plenty of things in the world that we should be worried about..this is not one of them.
  
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ResistSocialism
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:02pm
Option 4. I don’t give a rats butt what he says.

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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:09pm
  If there was an option four, then I would go with it.
  
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spickard2101
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:01pm
It’s a fricken movie… grow the up.

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- Alex
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:29pm
  Thank you.
  
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Gourdy
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:00pm
This dude is a known grandstander! Let’s see: Bram Stoker wrote Dracula in 1897, yet Satan hasn’t slayed us all yet in over a century. Is Satan really that inept?

Someone’s trying to get from free publicity on the heels of a popular movie.

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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:07pm
  Yep. These kinds of “dire warnings” always result in calls for “donations” to get the message out, or see the membership of the church in question receive donations from sympathetic folks from across the land. As predictable as the day is long.
  
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 2:59pm
Well, it is stupid, and pathetically unwatchable. Horrible acting (does that girl have *any* facial expressions), pretentious without even bad reasons for the pretense, tries to re-write the vampire to be some sympathetic force of good prone to none of the “known” weaknesses, which fails on arrival, and did I mention bad acting? Oh, and what is the message of these? If the girl just, you know, kills herself, why, that will get the lonely brooding hot guy to come back to her and accept her! Really?

On the scale of film badness, this one is way far below Porkies and Police Squad III.

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- Gourdy
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:02pm
  They really are terrible movies, aren’t they. And I have to say I like a good zombie, vampire, or sci-fi movie but couldn’t make it through the one Twilight movie I did see.
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:05pm
  If faced with the choice, I’d even go with Enemy Mine over this one. Lou Gossett Junior being the tie breaker for me.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:09pm
  At Gourdy, yep, they are absolutely awful. I know why tween girls are into it (and their moms who pretend to only be going to accompany their daughers), but goodness, just make a movie that doesn’t go through the motions of pretending to have something go for it, yet has guys taking off their shirts. Goodness.
  
  @Roth
  
  Absolutely. Besides, Enemy Mine did at least have a decent message, especially for us anti-war types.
  
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- The Jewish Avenger
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:12pm
  It’s screams pro-gay any way.
  
  Sorry, I believe that homosexuals are people but I do NOT have to agree with their lifestyle.
  
  Ironic that all they talk about are the teenage girls.
  What no metrosexual boys watching the movie?
  
  Oh shhhh thats right, it might be the icing on the cake to make the majority think that PERHAPS this is a soft athiest, anti-God movie.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:30pm
  “It’s screams pro-gay any way.”
  
  Huh. A movie with attractive young men, and your mind instantly goes to gays. Have something you need to get off your chest? ;-)
  
  Jefferson’s review nails it. The writing is terrible, the messages are terrible, but terrible =/= evil. The movie should be avoided because it’s not worth watching, not because it’s somehow satanic.
  
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- LouieKelcher74
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:39pm
  “On the scale of film badness, this one is way far below Porkies and Police Squad III.”
  
  C’mon man… Porkyy’s was way better than Police Squad III
  
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- The Jewish Avenger
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:56pm
  Have something you need to get off your chest?
  
  Ya, but these medals are just too dang heavy :)
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 7:42pm
  boasting about medals? lol…. how manly.
  
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toiletclogga
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 2:58pm
The movies and the books just plain suck! Enough with the vampire, werewolf, zombie crap. Try something original.

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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:05pm
  whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa…..why you got to hate on zombies? Geesh, why you gotta lump them in that crew?
  
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- TheRagas
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:35pm
  I would like to see a movie about the Book of Ezekiel. Now that would be wild!!!!!!
  
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- The Jewish Avenger
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:38pm
  Zombie fun to shoot for about 15 mins… then snorefest
  
  wash rinse repeat.
  
  But more fun than twighlight.
  
  Didnt she just get caught cheating on her husband doing a threesome?
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 4:06pm
  Have you read World War Z? I liked that they depicted the zombie apocalypse in an analytical manner.
  
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- Brooke Lorren
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:34am
  Turn on the news… I heard that they were playing Ezekiel 38-39 in between the commercials about Twinkies closing down…
  
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- phoenicianflux
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:36pm
  Horror motifs are metaphorical, & as much as we want to debate originality & good writing, we have a trend that has captured the hearts & minds of young women…yet no one bothers to ask why. God has set eternity in the hearts of man, & the church is missing a great opportunity to minister to these young girls the Truth/Jesus as our eternal lover/protector, & his supernatural persuit of us, despite how ordinary we are.
  
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GoodStuff
Posted on November 19, 2012 at 2:57pm
Twilight is garbage.

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- dy2000
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:21pm
  Well put.
  
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- searcher619
  Posted on November 19, 2012 at 3:34pm
  The writing is bad. What’s worse is this is the author’s view of an ideal romantic relationship.
  
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- phoenicianflux
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:28pm
  What constitutes a poor grow of an ideal relationship? A woman wanting a man that is willing to “not lose control” physically/sexually until marriage? A man who will go to great lengths to protect her? A man that will see how extraordinary she is despite her ordinary human condition? Come on, help me out here…women swoon over Jane Austin & Twilight, because a lot of the “real men” are busy trying to get laid & playing video games, still living in mom’s basement. Wake up, men, instead of whining about it, go get a shower, get a job, move out on your own, drop kick the porn/video game habits & go make yourself worthy of a nice girl! I know a lot of ladies that are avaliable & waiting for you.
  
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- phoenicianflux
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:43pm
  …poor *view* of an ideal relationship…
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:22am
  Yes, and it’s also kinda gay. While also being targeted at teens, its not a good thing.
  
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