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‘Heartbreaking’: 13-Year-Old Girl Gunned Down in Front of Fellow Students on Fla. School Bus

Nov. 20, 2012 5:23pm Erica Ritz

13 Year Old Girl Shot on Miami School Bus, Male Student in Custody

Police investigate the scene of a shooting on a school bus in Homestead, Fla., near Miami, Tuesday, Nov. 20, 2012. Miami-Dade police say a 13-year-old girl has died after she was shot by another student on the school bus in Homestead. (Photo: AP)

(TheBlaze/AP) — A 13-year-old girl was shot to death in front of her sister and several other students while riding the bus to a charter school Tuesday, Miami-Dade police said.

A male student was in custody but authorities did not release his name or age and said they are still interviewing him. A gun was also recovered at the scene in Homestead, south of Miami, but authorities didn’t say where or how many times the victim was shot.

“We still don’t know what the motive may have been,” said police spokesman Det. Alvaro Zabaleta.

Eight other children, including the victim’s 7-year-old sister, were on the bus but were not harmed. Authorities took the children and the bus driver to a police station to be interviewed.

The victim, who has not been identified, attended charter middle school Palm Glades Preparatory Academy. The victim’s sister went to nearby Summerville Advantage Academy.

Concerned parents gathered at the shooting site, which was cordoned off by crime scene tape as authorities combed the bus for evidence and gathered children’s backpacks and belongings. The shooting occurred about seven minutes away from the school.

Fabian Otero said he was relieved his son Christian, an eighth-grader at Palm Glades, rode to school with his wife. He said he and his wife have been shaken by the killing and are going to discuss enrolling their son in a different school or possibly homeschooling him.

“I was stunned! I was stunned!” he said. “That hits really close to home. That’s just scary.”

About a dozen parents picked up their children early, said Lynn Norman-Teck, a spokeswoman for Florida Consortium of Public Charter School. Only a throng of TV news crews camped outside signaled the violence from earlier in the morning.

Many of the students had not heard about the shooting and the school did not make an announcement before school was dismissed, but word started to trickle out as they walked outside to waiting school buses.

Thirteen-year-old Eric Carillo said he was in the same class as the victim a few years ago.

“She was a good girl. She was fun,” the 13-year-old said.

Sarah Baer said she wouldn’t let her daughter walk home from school because there are rough neighborhoods a few blocks away.

“I always take my daughter to and from school. This is so heartbreaking especially right before Thanksgiving,” she said.

The school bus was not equipped with video surveillance equipment.

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blackyb
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:17pm
If Obama had a son…..

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scrudge
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:59pm
Ah Yes…. welcome to the U S A…. ” UNITED SOVIET STATES ” lets hear from the gun banners.. for they are the only ones with no protection..

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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:13pm
  The correct acronym for United Soviet States would be USS….
  
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- TrueSoundsOfLiberty
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:06pm
  Actually an acronym is an abbreviation that can be sounded out to make a word. ATM, USA, USSR and USS are abbreviations. SCUBA, LASER, NATO and AIDS are acronyms.
  All acronyms are abbreviations but not all abbreviations are acronyms.
  
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SilentReader
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:57pm
Terrible!

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mikenleeds
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:36pm
anyone that puts their children in a public school should have their children took away , 90 percent of them are animals

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zoro51
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:08pm
clearly the school needs to be shut down closed n all FIRED for failures.. then CAMERAS on buses are needed.. SADLY.. but now a kid killed by whom ever for what reason>?? that kid should be EXTERMINATED thier parents to PAY FOR ALL BURIAL N MEDICAL N EMOTIONAL SUFFERING.. so should the school.. THEN sadly metal detectors on buses.. i swear because of LEFTISTS DEMOCRATS our nation has nose dived… AMERICA needs to REMOVE THE LEFT NOW… more regulations more taking away our freedoms more RAPING of america BY the left will cause more n more of this.. WE as a nation are not MURDERING MUSLUMS.. who kill because they have blood lust.. WE cherrish our kids. now this murderer child will be removed form society they should be KILLED to end the cycle…. OH florida what have you become now>//???

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- Elena2010
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:39am
  Children need moms and dads who are active in their lives. They need moms and dads who don’t relegate the children to the state/school to raise them. Children w/o functional parents are like weeds — they grow every which way.
  
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Advection
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:03pm
Obama! Obama! Obama! Obama! Obama! Obama! Obama! Obama!

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LeadNotFollow
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:26pm
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KEATONC….. In your posts, you have said ” when I drink Booze, take drugs, or watch pornography…..” and “I am thinking of my kid.. 4 year old boy…..”.

Well obviously, you are not thinking of the negative effects you are having on your toddler, by drinking, doping, watching porn, and your hate for Jews and Christians.
Shouldn’t you grow up and act like a Dad, and stop posting immature hate-filled comments toward other posters on this site?

Why aren’t you down in the floor playing with your little boy or reading to him, instead of being glued to your computer?
When you grow old, your computer won’t wipe the drool from your mouth or wipe your ****.
It’s easy to be a sperm donor. It takes hard work and dedication to be a real Dad.

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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:16pm
  I obviously wasnt saying that literally, I was responding to someone who claims a kid sneaking booze is equivalent to a kid sneaking out his dads gun… but you knew that already! as for my parenting.. you have no clue buddy!
  
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sparky239
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:16pm
hey keaton pull your lip over your pathetic small minded head and swallow…then drive yourself out to the desert and stay there… your village will be better off with out its idiot….

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ChiefGeorge
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:11pm
America is in trouble folks! We have an inate disregard for human life. My prayers go out to the family of the girl. May justice be served accordingly.

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hobbydiva1
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:06pm
Keaton, please define “bad” parents. Would you/could you use the same definition to describe “bad” teachers? “Bad” ministers/priests? Who decides? What about the child who sneaks the key away from parents who are sleeping, keeps it hidden til they go to work, unlocks and takes the gun and kills someone? Parents who never expected their child would entertain doing such a horrible thing? Maybe said kid acted impulsively, thereby offering up no clues to what he was considered doing? And sometimes, parents do all the “correct, by the book” stuff and STILL their kid goes against the grain. You can blame gun owners, you can demand stiffer laws and higher fines, but you can’t legislate intelligence, irrational reasoning and impulse control. If it wasn’t a gun, it could have been a knife, a sharp stick, a box cutter……my condolences to the family, the witnessing kids and bus driver and my prayers for the child who killed and his family. Sad losses, all around.

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- johnpaulkuchtajr
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:17pm
  I pleaded with Keaton yesterday to go find the village that was missing its idiot and apply for the job.
  
  The only stipulation was that the village could have no internet connections.
  
  He obviously ignored my attempt at career counseling.
  
  Please Keaton, this is YOUR career track. Embrace it, daddy-o!
  
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longknifed
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:57pm
looks like it is time to ban school busses because this never wouldve happened if the bus let the kid on it.

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powedj
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:57pm
It’s George Bush’s fault !!!!!!

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whatthecrazy
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:49pm
Seems the owner of the gun would be accountable for this tradgedy along with the kid who must have known what a gun can do when fired at a human being.How sad for this family……

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rafa2design
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:45pm
Our public schools have become trash. I use to hear it was the parents fault and that is starts at home but I’m beginning to think it may be teachers. I know there are still some good ones out there, but I have talked to and met teachers over the past few years who were involved in selling drugs, using drugs, taking part-time illegal work like prostitution on the side… I’ve met a few other teachers who were very promiscuous and some were even married and having affairs with other male teachers under administrations noses. A lot of teachers I have met in the elementary schools have alcoholic problems and party all weekend long… There is so much filth going on it’s unbelievable.

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- Elena2010
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:41am
  It’s both.
  
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:42pm
KEATON… off topic but i wanted to chase you down and respond to the LSD take you dropped onto a couple stories..
I liked it…
Have you ever read “Grendel”?…

“I alone exist… All the rest is what pushes me or i push against.. I create the universe.. blink by blink.”… a lonely monster dying in a tree

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IWISHIWASINTEXAS
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:34pm
And when any one of my guns is loaded in the home sitting on my nightstand, it doesn’t kill a single person, not one!

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AmericaMustBeFree
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:32pm
This is only the beginning.. if I had children in this day and age I would take them and teach them at home, if they aren’t murdered, then they are brainwashed. Wake up America.. if want to save your children then take them out of the school system ASAP!

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Abigail Adams
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:31pm
God Bless the victim and I pray this wasn’t intentional on the Part of the shooter.
Everyone is quick to judge him a sociopath without ant facts at all. The reality is that if this kid had intended to kill a bunch of students, why was only one student killed? The article says the vicim’s 7 year old sister was present so there were some pretty young kids there. It’s not likely thos kids could have subdued him after the first shot, even if they were mature enough to think of that option.
Next, if this were a annex attack, why would he have planned it on the bus? It limits his own ability to escape.
While the incident is horrifying, I think it’s possible this was a stupid kid wanting to show off. Boys mature slower than girls and if you add in something like Aspergers you have an impulsive, immature kid who is prone to really stupid actions.
With the limited information here, I’d guess an immature boy with Aspergers just accidentally killed his crush when he was trying to impress her.
One of my sons has Aspergers and I’m sure glad we homeschool.

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- ADNIL
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 5:07am
  This is probably closer to the truth. An accident ocurred when it was only meant to impress someone. Kids do really stupid things without thinking of what could happen.
  
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klevalt
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:01pm
God bless the families involved… I pray the parents of the shooter do not turn him into a victim, or worse create the impression that they are the victims here. It is sickening that someone can blame the fact that I have every right to carry a weapon to defend myself against the idiots that allowed this child access to the weapon that was used (2nd amendment) other than call the tragedy what it is: a parent’s ignorance and a child’s lack of dicipline.

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- IWISHIWASINTEXAS
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:05pm
  Well said and right on!
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:08pm
  Rightly and well said…
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:16pm
  So would you favor stronger gun laws to restrict bad parents from owning Guns? or are dead kids just a necessary casualty?
  
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- LeadNotFollow
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:21pm
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  KEATONC….. Does your Mom know that you are in your basement bedroom sniffing glue?
  She needs to go back to buying the child safe model-glue.
  
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- IWISHIWASINTEXAS
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:27pm
  Please pass the Cheetos Keaton.
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:28pm
  Elmer’s or bust!
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:28pm
  Keaton – “So would you favor stronger gun laws to restrict bad parents from owning Guns?”
  
  No, not stronger gun laws but better training…
  Learning how to break a weapon down, reassembling it, self regulated fire range experience, how to properly secure. These are options.
  
  What I find is that ranges are overly regulated to allow my to be in existance.
  People treating them as a gun, like a squirt gun, instead of the weapon that it is.
  
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- Angel_light
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:42pm
  Keatonc333- What don’t you understand about the parents being accountable for their child and teaching them right from wrong? We may not know the whole story of this family but that is what it boils down to. Good parenting also extends to where your child will choose to do the right thing even when their parents are not around. doesn’t matter what they are faced with, peer pressure, controlling their own anger, etc.
  
  God help the families of both the boy and the girl. Hopefully this boy does not become a repeat offender.
  
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- Atomic
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:47pm
  Real sad story… My prayers go out to the family and friends…
  
  Keatonc333, more gun laws???? A school bus is A GUN FREE ZONE… As you can see, gun free zones do not work, as criminals do not follow laws and enjoy being the only ones in the area who are armed. What I’d like to see is laxed gun laws, and the total elimination of gun free zones. There should be armed security protecting our kids. Maybe if there is armed presence criminals would not feel free to commit whatever crime they please…
  
  If you’re speaking of casualties, yeah we keep seeing case after case, over and over again in gun free zones…
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:58pm
  Isn’t this rather excessive.
  Wouldn’t that be more of a challenge rather than a deterrent?
  And what would they pay for such an armed bus guard?
  At best $15/hr for maybe a 20hr work week?
  
  There are over 440,000 public school buses in the U.S.
  
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- maverick4harlot
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:58pm
  I have no problem with responsible licensed people having hand guns even though I dont own any or like them HOWEVER the person to whom the gun was registered is the killer in this situation. The OWNER was responsible and should face the penalty for their inability to properly secure the weapon away from children and irresponsibility for leaving ammunition either in it or with it. My father had shotguns and rifles but the ammunition was never anywhere that I ever saw. Not that I looked but I darn sure never saw it.
  
  GOD bless the child that died and her family as well as all the children on the bus that witnesses this terrible tragedy.
  
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- Atomic
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:33pm
  DadRocked, might not have to hire anyone if it were required that all 440,000 bus drivers be armed. Anything to eliminate the criminal salt lick that is the gun free zone. It’s just nuts to crate areas that are defenseless and made into a criminals paradise, then blame the gun when things predictably go wrong.
  
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- Wisdom7
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 1:32am
  @Keaton
  
  Even if you destroyed every single gun, they would use knives or some other weapon. They are only tools. It has nothing to do with gun laws, but everything to do with the mentality of folks like yourself (idiots).
  
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bdandsl
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:56pm
The results of an ever-increasing Godless soceity.

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- LeadNotFollow
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:12pm
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  BD….. Amen!
  
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- HOOT_OWL
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:21pm
  It time to implement swift justice ‘no age restriction‘. Public hangings should do the trick. some people need to SEE their peers necks getting stretched ..They see a couple of these and they just might decide to tone down this thug mentality.
  
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h20sue
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:51pm
If the shooter was dumb enough to get a hold of a gun or steal it from someone, they should put his/her name in print, and their photo, regardless of age! I’m sorry, but it’s getting more and more dangerous in so many cities and town throughout the USA. If shooters are old enough to point and aim, go to school, and able to dress themselves, they are old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. Innocent people should be protected by the law and all information should be given to the public.
In Virginia, the capital media, tells you the status of the person. (Black, White, Hispanic, etc). In Norfolk, Va.Beach, Chesapeake, etc, they don’t give you this information. It makes finding a person who has committed an crime difficult to find. All information should be provided to the public. American’s Most Wanted (which we are now unable to get) showed photos, gave name, told us what their crime was, and where the criminal was last seen. This is necessary to protect American’s. The racial profiling junk needs to stop. It’s called honesty, not racial profiling!

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Keatonc333
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:50pm
God bless America and our 2nd amendment for allowing this to happen! rest in peace little girl.
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- IWISHIWASINTEXAS
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:02pm
  Grow up Keaton, if there hadn’t been a gun there would have been a knife or a hammer. This kid wanted to kill someone and it wouldn’t have mattered one bit if there wasn’t a gun in the picture. Or should be ban guns along with pools, knives, forks, bats, or anything “swingable”? Again, grow up.
  
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- dirigo
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:02pm
  Sorry but the 2nd Amendment does not give the right to be stupid! Which evidently this guy seems to be! You can take your Constitution bashing elsewhere!
  
  My thoughts and prayers are with this young girls family.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:04pm
  KEATONC333, Definitely a shame. Considering that you are jumping the GUN here since we do not yet know if this was done on purpose or not. Consider this the next time you hear about a fatal traffic accident. More people to include children are killed by such accidents that all gunshot events. Another thing, more people are killed annually by physicians than all the nations gunshot wounds as well. Surely you can attack the Constitution and or other amendments for that. Now, can’t you?
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:07pm
  NOT NOW KEATON – Save it for another topic – NOT a tragedy.
  
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- skippy6
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:11pm
  If you would take the time to look at stats where they ban guns…
  
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- LeadNotFollow
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:11pm
  .
  The student who shot the little girl, more than likely did not obtain that gun legally.
  Most students who ride a bus are under 18. Too young to legally own a gun.
  
  This shooting has nothing to do with the second amendment.
  Why don’t you go troll the many Liberal websites, where your anti-American, communist opinions will be appreciated?
  
  If your neighborhood is ever attacked, you will be hoping that all your neighbors are gun owners, so they can protect your ****, you hypocrite.
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:14pm
  dad. What do you mean not a tragedy? You see now what heppens with loose gun laws. this stuff happens in America on a daily basis.
  Texas. I like his chances throwing a hammer into a school bus to kill her much more than a bullet.
  Dirigo.. The 2nd amendment allows stupid people to become murders with ease
  and finally RJJ.. what different does it make at all if it was an accident or on purpose? either way a student was able to kill another student.. clever jump the gun pun though!
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:18pm
  Skippy.. I have! guns are banned in Japan.. and there were 2 shootings there over the span of a year. secondly after Clinton passed his ban on assault weapons he saw one of the largest drop in violent crimes in our nations history…
  
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- Dustoff
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:19pm
  Stupid as always I see.
  
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- IWISHIWASINTEXAS
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:22pm
  What kind of idiot throws a hammer!?! Tell me KEATON, how is gun crime doing in Chicago?
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:27pm
  @KEATON
  
  That is possibly the crassest comment I’ve ever seen.
  
  Please leave this site.
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:29pm
  Thats the point you made Tex… she was killed by a bullet going threw a window…
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:35pm
  Keaton – “dad. What do you mean not a tragedy?
  There is a time and place to spew… Not now.
  
  “You see now what heppens with loose gun laws.”
  The laws have never been this tight.
  
  “…this stuff happens in America on a daily basis.”
  Yes by punks and by the ill trained.
  
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- IWISHIWASINTEXAS
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:39pm
  I’m not talking about just this time. Guns are bad then because they can kill from a distance??? Sorry but i’m pretty sure a lot of things can kill you from a distance so that seems like a pretty poor reason to ban them. My point was that if it wasn’t a gun it would be something else. The blame lies with the person or their parents, not the tool that was used to commit the crime.
  
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- sparky239
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:12pm
  keaton you are a fool …quit blaming everything but,the individual who stole the gun and used it…Grow up ….another child of God is gone and all you morons do is blame a gun or something else to fill your idiot liberal brains…craw back under your pathetic rock and stay there..
  
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- Focused
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:35pm
  The crime rate was dropping before the AWB was even passed, and after the sunset in 2004 it continued to drop. Do you even know what an “Assault Weapon” is? While the federal ban was in place, I got a WASR10 with one 40rd mag. An AKM looking thing without the dimples. This was in NY too, so AWs had been double banned, and the state one, a copy of the federal, didn’t sunset in 2004 ether. I still have to live under that law, and this year I got a S&W M&P15 plus two 30rd mags. Look in the gun shops up here and you will see tons of guns that the uneducated would called “Assault Weapons”.
  
  What you have been lead to believe about the AWB is not true. The biggest part of it that hit us was a price increase due to the law of supply and demand.
  
  30rd steel AK mag in a free state = about $10 to $15
  
  Pre-ban 30rd steel AK mag in NY = about $20
  
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- spfoam1
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:48am
  @KEATON….If gun laws stopped things like this then how come cities with the strictest gun laws have the worst crime? Have you ever been able to figure out where the ugly little troll goes when you look into and then behind a mirror?
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:06am
  Before the gun was the sword, mace, axe, halbred, bow, morning star, knife, club, etc. People will find a way to kill someone if they decide to kill. A gun is just another weapon. Banning guns does not equal peace.
  
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- THX-1138
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:47am
  I agree. We should ban all guns. Since I’m male, 6 feet tall, strong, skilled in martial arts and way smarter than most people I’d instantly become superior to them and could bully and take whatever I wanted, you know, like before Sam Colt made us all equal.
  
  If you really believe the stuff you write then you’re in way over your head here. If you’re just being paid to post goofy left wing nonsense, well, good job.
  
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ObserverOnTheHill
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:50pm
nothing worse than losing a child, but to lose a child this way ? A sad commentary on parenting today.

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braddock66
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:44pm
How sad! God Bless the family for their tragic loss!

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Elena2010
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:32pm
When you divorce God fm the public space, this is what you get — lawlessness and tragedy.

Lord, have mercy on us!

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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:49pm
  Ya.. it must be a God thing, because I’ve never heard of a christian doing anything bad or violent!… I’m just happy we live in a country that allows these kids access to guns. be
  
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- jungle J
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:58pm
  grow up…there were lawless before…you sound like a Christian that has no answers other than…you may be a progressive plant degrading too…
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:06pm
  Not enough details to agree with the lawlessness comment.
  Not in defense but we don’t know, we can only speculate…
  Speculating is dangerous until more facts come out.
  You bring God into this… HE will watch over His Flock…
  Just take this moment to feel the pain for all of those that knew this little girl.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:10pm
  KEATONC333, Do you mean like where children come up with access booze, beer, drugs, pornography…..oh yeah. You’re a left leaning loony lib, all of that has to be just fine.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:13pm
  KEATON ! – NOT NOW… Leave this article alone… You’re sounding like a demon’s son…
  We have written back and forth for awhile – You’re better than that.
  
  Bring yout comments in on 2nd Amendment articles / Weapon sales, etc…
  Not on some young kid needlessly murdered.
  
  You’ve spoken of your 2 kids. Think about it man.
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:21pm
  Dad.. I know what your saying.. I get it! believe me! But at the same time I am thinking of my kid.. its just one.. 4 year old boy.. adorable! and what compelled me to write this is the fact that It could be him next time.. thats a terrifying thought. and I hate how this has become so accepted in our society.
  
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- IWISHIWASINTEXAS
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:31pm
  What gives you the impression that a dead kid is acceptable!? Sorry, but kids drown in pools, does that mean they should be banned? Why strip the law abiding public of their guns just because a miniscule percentage can’t handle the right? This story and those like it are tragic, all you’re doing is blaming the shiny object.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:45pm
  Keaton – “and I hate how this has become so accepted in our society.”
  
  It is, in NO way accepted in our society. You don’t, I don’t, nor does anybody here accept it.
  There are those that are only tough, with a weapon in their hands… Then cowarding without one.
  
  You will raise you son to be self sufficient. When you’re no longer on this earth, and he’s flying solo in life, YOU will be his reference point…
  He will not be proud of his achievements without having faith and pride in his own accomplishments…
  You’ll see as he gets older.
  Always being around a negative attitude will not teach him the qualities for self accomplishment.
  He’ll fall on his face in life and have to rely on others to survive.
  That’s not what we as parents want… Now is it?
  
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- Elena2010
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:37am
  There was a time when teachers problems were gum chewing, talking, and spit wads. That was back in the day when God was in the public square. When I was a kid, we sang Christmas carols in school, passed out Valentines, celebrated the good things God had given us w/o being afraid the ACLU was going to shut us down. And, yes, we had Jewish kids and a token atheist or two in my high school class.
  
  There was not lawlessness on this scale before God was kicked to the curb. When the Ten Commandments came down, it was said that the kids should not be exposed to them for fear they would actually take them to heart.
  
  And I will slap at one more sacred cow while I’m at it. Mother Theresa told Pres Clinton that we have lawlessness in our streets because we do not value the least of our citizens. We kill them legally thru abortion on demand. A culture that practices human sacrifice at the levels that we practice abortion will not survive long. We have left all the commandments in the dust, broken by our willfulness.
  
  We have told God He’s not God, we are. We make idols of bank accounts and worship success. We use the Name of God as a swear word. We pay no attn to a day of rest and reflection. We throw out old parents to the nursing home to die. We steal, murder, lie, made adultery a chic sport, do not respect others’ success but want to take it away.
  
  Examine yourself. Turn back to God before He decides He’s had enough of our bad behavior!
  
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