Pat Robertson Unleashes Christmas Rant: Atheists Are ‘Miserable’ Grinches Who ‘Don’t Like Our Happiness’ & ‘Want to Steal Your Holiday’
Atheist activists will likely take issue with religious broadcaster Pat Roberson and his harsh critique of their tactics — and worldview. On CBN’s “The 700 Club,” Robertson recently addressed the ongoing “War on Christmas,” telling viewers that “the Grinch” may very literally be trying to steal Christmas.
“The Grinch is trying to steal our holiday,” the faith leader said of ongoing atheistic attacks on religious sentiment. “It’s been so beautiful. The nation comes together. We sing Christmas carols. We give gifts to each other. We have lighted trees and it’s just a beautiful thing.”
As for non-believing activists’ motivations for waging a “War on Christmas,” Robertson said that the problem may be rooted in secular Americans’ unhappiness and purported miserable nature — a Grinch-like worldview that he claims they’d like to impose on society as a whole.
“Atheists don’t like our happiness. They don’t want you to be happy,” he proclaimed. “They want you to be miserable. They’re miserable so they want you to be miserable. So they want to steal your holiday away from you.”
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Delores at CH WV
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:49amI do not understand why Christians do not have a protect class? It time the government gives us a protected class. We are entitled to rights too! And, Hate crimes against us! It is time Christians speak for our their God given rights and the US Constitution! It time American? Our you going to stand up!!!!! We have the same rights as unbelievers. They don’t have more rights than we have. Any Judge that is taking our rights needs to be voted out or recalled by the citizens. It is time to take our rights back. The founders never expected the citizens to be abused of their rights!
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:34pmEqual protection before the law means NO person gets special protections. That means the term ‘hate crime’ should be thrown out of the judicial process altogether. You simply cannot allow one group to be treated differently than another.
It doesn’t matter if you give Jews certain immunities just because they have suffered throughout the ages, or that they are only 1% of the population. If you do so for ONE group, then ALL groups must be accounted for. Do you see how complicated, irritating this would be? It may never end!
“The worst form of inequality is trying to make unequal things equal.” -Aristotle.
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athiest-infedel
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:43pmYES, blasphmey laws now, make it punishable by death to insult the prophet……er…. jesus, lets burn the consitution and make this a christian country where the gov. will tell you which church to go to and which form of christianty you must follow.
Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:49pmThis is a touchy subject, and I don’t want to offend anyone….
It is time to start looking to the reality of Pat’s dedication to the idea of world governance, Which, scripturally, IS the anti-christ’s own organization. How in the world could an educated “man of God”, be so occluded? Is this ignorance? Is this purposeful?
I do not listen to him at all….. All Globalists do the work of the devil. Pat is a globalist.
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DeavonReye
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:49pminfidel, . . . there would have to be nearly a civil war, though, before there would be a government that instituted a specific doctrine, since so many differing denominations exist and often disagree over some pretty technical doctrine.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:13pmATHEIST-INFIDEL:
Did you know that Obama said, quote, “The future must no belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” ?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-denounces-anti-islam-film-during-u-n-speech-an-insult-not-only-to-muslims-but-to-america-as-well/
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:19pmATHEISTINFIDEL….Christianity does not work that way, Only heartfelt and voluntary conversion is real.
I personally feel this is a non-issue. As long as crybaby atheists who claim not to believe are still upset about anyone else showing faith….I’m good.
I like to show my peace, and gladness to all, especially, sad sack atheists, living in their own special self -constructed world where there is no higher power or purpose. Where proof of life is confined to man’s limited understanding.
I like watching atheists deal with trouble, and that’s a good thing…They have a lot of it.
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:22pmCABRITOGOAT….Really -really good post. Thanks ….
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ccfonten
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:27pmWe are Christians, therefore there is open season on us right now.
The “protected” groups are the atheists, muslims and just plain the haters of all things they do not like for whatever reason.
Mr Robertson is right. The hate groups (previously listed above) think they will never be happy until we are wiped out of existence and NO traces of our Christianity along with us.
But know what? These groups are forever unhappy and miserable and angry………at everything.
May God have mercy on their immortal souls.
I have great difficulties with forgiving them, I hope God can do a better job than I am!
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:04pmCCFONTEN…….Try this …..Be a ‘born from above’ Christian and reject religion! All religion.
This probably sounds stupid to you. Christ is a reality. Christianity is NOT a religion. It is a way of walking.
Religion, all, religion fails. It is always derived from man’s interpretation. I can trust no man. I do not trust in my own understanding. But I have spiritual discernment, and that is enough.
I trust my Lord. YHVH. We grow closer each day.
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PennyCillin
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:07pmDelores at CH WV:
Which Christian right is at the top of your list of those taken away by the government; i.e. the #1 right that you’d recommend Christians urgently focus their attention on restoring first?
You also noted that Christian hate-crimes are being committed; could you provide a link or description of one of the worst that Christians here should focus on getting justice for?
Victory in war is not achieved by winning a single huge event, but rather by focusing one at a time on the series of individual battles.
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:29pmPENNYCILLAN….What we have is a great number of unprotected people…http://www.persecution.com/
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rickc34
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:09pmEvery day is a day to give thanks and praise to the Lord. I do not think anyone can take my love for God away. If they take things away it just makes us pray. Those that fought against God in times past and have died have suffered the first death and God is still here and they are not.
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Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:30pmDelores at CH WV: What are you even talking about? You sound as unhinged at Pat Robertson does. What rights have been taken from you? What can you no longer legally do that you could before? You mentioned the Constitution, which has absolutely no mention or reference to god, the lord, a creator or any deity for a reason. But Christians are such an oppressed group aren’t they? Hardly. Your religious freedom is not being infringed just because you are not able to vocally support oppression and inequality toward others without facing opposition. Every week Christian churches, which are on just about every block, engage in political activity and try to influence elections but no government entity is threatening to strip their tax-exempt status like they should be. 75% of the country is Christian and our politicians are sworn in on bibles.
Christians have gone from a group of believers willing to die for a man that preached loving your enemies, to people who are known more for who they are against, than who they love. Until Christians endure the same threats, mocking and ostracization that the LGBT community faces every day, they can’t claim they’re being persecuted. Especially since those threats, the mocking and the ostracizing almost always comes from Christians themselves. God willing, maybe one day one of you will rise up and get to be president of this country… or maybe 44 in a row.
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Keatonc333
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:32pmOh my god that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life! christians in america are the most protected of all the worlds people. you are Tax free. you get just about every thing you want. you try to play the victim but when theres nothing to go on.. which is normally the case you just look like ridiculous cry babies!
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jessieH
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:48amYou know what a dead athiest is? All dressed up & nowhere to go.
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SovereignSoul
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:05pmAn atheist would say the same about you. Just saying…
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ltb
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:13pmThat’s funny. Here’s another good atheist joke.
An atheist was seated next to a little girl on an airplane and he turned to her and said, “Do you want to talk? Flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.”
The little girl, who had just started to read her book, replied to the total stranger, “What would you want to talk about?”
“Oh, I don’t know,” said the atheist. “How about why there is no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death?” as he smiled smugly…
“OK,” she said. “Those could be interesting topics but let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff – grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, but a horse produces clumps. Why do you suppose that is?”
The atheist, visibly surprised by the little girl’s intelligence, thinks about it and says, “Hmmm, I have no idea.” To which the little girl replies, “Do you really feel qualified to discuss why there is no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death, when you don’t know crap?” And then she went back to reading her book.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:34pmSoveriegn soul, that’s actually a classic tombstone epitaph, iirc.
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SovereignSoul
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:51pmI understand that Sacred. I’m just saying from an atheist point of view the same is true of all of us.
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Keatonc333
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:35pmsoverignsoul! well splayed sir!!
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Keatonc333
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:36pm“A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back he ever wants to see a f**king cross? It’s like going up to Jackie Onassis wearing a rifle pendant.”
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Keatonc333
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:39pmEver notice how people who believe in creationism look really unevolved?…Their eyes real close together. Eyebrow ridges. Big, furry hands and feet. ‘I believe God created me in one day.’ Looks like he rushed it.
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Zipit
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:41pmGee Soverein! That was a witty comeback!
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ltb
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:58pm@Keatonc333: It’s sad how atheists are so lonely and unhappy that they spend most of their time insulting complete strangers on the Internet. What did you people do to make yourselves feel really big before the Internet? Pull the wings off of flies? Maybe it’s time you tried a new belief system, because believing you’re related to apes obviously isn’t working out very well for you. Just a thought.
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Webeenhad
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:44amOkay all you liberals, You Win! I have no problem not celebrating Christmas or Thanksgiving. I’m going to give all my savings and investments away because my children won’t need it. I’m going to spend the rest of my life on government subsistence because I don’t really like working either. If I get sick, I’ll go to the emergency room. I hope it all works out for us. But best of all, I know that all of you that voted liberal are having a precious moment reading this because I am running into your arms so that I may suffer with you. I’m gonna love being a downer with you.
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Webeenhad
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:10pmI’ll still keep my conservative ways, like I’ll be good at stretching those food stamps and such. I’ll be sucking on a tit for a change. But wait! I won’t be one of those sad sack working and contributing members, so I guess there will be one less tit for US to suck on. Well, you love misery, so I will too….. Thanks Liberals! I love being a member of your downer society already :-) happy happy joy joy……..No, I mean what the f#*k, sam hell, @#8, sh#t………….I hate this world..There, that’s better.
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:11pmWEBEENHAD….I don’t have to worship the system to use what is available….Things are tough and gonna get worse….my little flock have the Lord’s protection. we know where the blessings come from.
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InfiniteSolutions
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:39amI think he put in terms most people can understand today. It’s not code either. He says what he means and frankly, I agree with him. We have too many folks that are miserable people and should probably take a closer look at what they are doing. How may athiest do you know that have read the bible. My question is if you are an intellectual you cannot deny that the bible has some moral value no matter how far you go to believe in Jesus Christ or God. There’s one thing certain, society is destroying itself without religion and is become corrupt and filthy in many forms of media. God save us all!
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bonesiii
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:48pmYeah, he’s exactly right. And it wasn’t a rant either; I heard the audio. He was calm.
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GodHatesFigs
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:57pmMost atheists I know have read the Bible. Many atheists say that reading the Bible was what led them down the path to atheism,
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:00pmI know of people who went about reading the bible, and then became christians. I know of people that claimed to be christians, then went about reading the bible and became athiests or agnostic. Differen strokes for different folks. People come in all different types, and we all need ot learn to live and let live.
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justangry
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:06pmI’ve read the Bible and I don’t believe it. I grew up as a Christian, baptized and everything. The more I thought about it and questioned some things, the less I believed.
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Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:08pmI just don’t see much evidence that our society is in decline or somehow worsening, morally speaking. In just about every aspect, modern society has become greatly improved over past generations due in very large part to the spread of reason and scientific progress. I always hear the appeal to “get back to our roots”, but I honestly do not believe we were better off in the “good old days”.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:15pmFrom what I’ve read, it seems people who get babtized don’t even realize the commitment that it is meant to be for believers. Probably go through most of their life without reading the bible as well.
Those who read the bible sometimes become more committed, or find they disagree with it and break away. Each person is different.
In America you have that right! In some countries just having a bible can lead to jail or death penalty. In other countries not reading the bible can lead to jail or death.
That’s one of the great things about America the freedom to choose (you don’t have to be forced into a state religion), you are free to exercise (your beliefs), the freedom to speech (to tell others what you believe if you so choose). There are extremists on both athiest side, and evangelical side that want to take thise fundamental rights away.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:20pmScientifically, in many areas (psychology in particular) I would agree with you, Calm. (I often do agree with you) but those are only technological advances.
Tangent alert: A lot of the Amish forgo the luxury of modern technology in order to be self-sufficient and more ‘holy’ as far as I understand them. Good for them, but I think it’s not technology that corrupts people. It is people that corrupt technology.
A responsible people, with technology, can create wonderous things. An irresponsible people, with technology, can perform atrocities. Technology is not a gauge for morality, is my basic point.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:22pmSome things have improved, other things have reversed, freedoms have become more restrictive or removed entirely. It’s not all roses nor is it all skunkweed either… Every period as had its good and its bad. There is no way that I would say that this era is perfect.
However, there are some consquences to modern ways of life that didn’t exist at least nearly as bad in the past, due to improving technology and advancments. Certain allergies, certain diseases (have become more common), more stress (in some aspects of life), suicide rate has gone up according to some statistics, At the same time advancements have helped us overcome some problems of the past. Others have opened up more ethical questions. Things are not black and white.
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:30pmGodhatesfigs…..Faith is what makes the difference…..
I know I was chosen and never had any doubt….not for one second of my life. When I study scripture, I am reading my own life. All the bad and all the good.
You can’t find faith in the bible. Only a definition of what faith is.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:35pm@Calm
Then you are looking at it with the same set of lenses as those who wish to “get back”, only in the opposite direction.
I agree, scientific progress has brought much good. It has also brought us the threat of world extermination at the press of a button, and there are no shortages of science being used against human freedom to be found either.
Humanity is humanity. Everything has a good and bad side. The “good old days” does have a lot of bad associated with them, but they also had very good things associated with them that we are forgetting. To reject the good of the past, or the good of the present, in toto is a mistake in my honest opinion. Reason suggests filtering out the bad and keeping the good while continuing to try and do as much good as you can in the world.
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:38pmAtheism is the funniest thing…..Atheists say “I see no God”, then try to convince others that blindness is beneficial. HA HA
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:44pmSatan comes disguised as an angel of light. ‘Religion’ is what elevates him to his destiny. Christianity is a REALITY. Don’t degrade it. Religion fails….Faith heals.
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:54pmJUSTANGRY….I believe you. I sorta knew that about you, already. I know you’re not dumb, but I also know you are not at peace. You have questions you want to solve that are beyond your personal capacity…..as do I. The difference between us is: I know where to go for answers.
You will continue in frustration, I will continue in edification.
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:15pmCALMVOICEOFRAISINS…Wrote That he couldn’t see much decline in morality around him…..HMMMM Guess he is not aware of the 55 million state sanctioned fetal murders performed since 1973, and the effect this immorality has had on the culture!
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:30pmReligion is one of the four hidden dynasties that Satan uses to build the ‘beast’. Religion can be manipulated, because it is based on man’s dogmatic interpretations. Anything that man interprets for other men is suspect. If any allow this, they deserve to be deceived.
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Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:40pmOf course the bible has some moral value within it. That is undeniable. However there is no ethical statement made or an action performed by a believer that could not have been made or performed by a non-believer. One does not need an ancient book written during mankind’s cultural infancy to be a decent person. Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.
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Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:30am@Max-abortions have been on a steady decline since 1973. Sounds like things are getting better and contraceptives have made a serious dent in a millennial practice.
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DarthMims
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:38amPat is of course aware that the beautiful lighted trees are a throwback to the druid (pagan) tradition celebrating the winter solstice, right?
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:48amWell, actually Germanic traditions on those there trees. We have very little knowledge of what the Druids did or didn’t do, outside of the writings of Romans who, as you may imagine, were not the most objective source of information, what, given as they were fighting them, wot?
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DarthMims
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:07pm@GHOSTOFJEFFERSON
I think the Saxons picked up the practice from the druids after their first visits to and settlement in the British Isles. In any event, the Romans would have put their own spin on things and then adopted any traditions as their own, such as celebrating the winter solstice around December 21-25.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:15pmYep, most of the ‘druid’ stuff that people worship now is based on romanticsm druid ideas of the 1700′s and not on any historical or archaeological facts.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:36pmI’ve studied nordic tradition. It’s all quite interesting to me.
The cross used to be a symbol of torture by asphyxiation and multiple punctures.
Now the cross means something completely different entirely.
Past is not always prologue.
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DarthMims
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:42pm@SACREDHONOR1776
True, most of what people do today and call druid or pagan is based on a wash of romanticism, gothic symbols, and Hollywood license, but there is enough physical and anecdotal evidence to tell us that the “light of winter” festival celebrating the solstice involved decorating all manner of plants, including trees, wreaths, holly, poinsettas, mistletoe, and even ferns.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:05pmThat’s incorrect Darth. The Germans, as in mainland Germany. There is no known Druid “Christmas tree”. They (Druids) did invent the mistletoe tradition however. Druids did worship nature, but held their services in forest groves full of nature, not in front of a single tree, and especially not an evergreen/fir tree, which is much more in place in the Germanic northern climes . In fact, Germans were much more likely to be “single tree” in matters beyond the origin of the Christmas trees, for example worshiping before a single oak tree when worshiping Odin (Wodin if you like).
If you could cite the specific Roman historian who mentions Druidic “winter solstice/worship” trees specifically, especially evergreens, then I’d be more than happy to investigate. Until then it’s fairly accepted fact that they originate in Germany (and a bit in elder Germanic Estonia) by most scholars.
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:07pmChrist called himself a ‘fir’ tree….evergreen…..Christians don’t worship the decorated tree…I think the image of “Santa Claus” is probably more dangerous!!
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DarthMims
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:42pm@GHOSTOFJEFFERSON
I have no argument with the “single-tree” theory being Germanic, or the evergreen tree being used by Germans, in fact that tradition came to America with the Hessians. But the druid practice of decorating the trees, evergreen or not, single or not, is a part of the history of the British Isles prior to the Romans or Saxons. It is therefore not a huge leap to infer that this practice was brought back to Germany by Saxons and adopted by the pagans there. The Romans eventually blended several different celebrations into one, so it would not be clear where any of the Roman traditions orginally came from.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:22pmSorry Dart, but while I’m of Gaelic linage myself, I see no connection between the Druids and Christmas trees. Druids did use trees, quite so, but to connect that to Christmas trees is beyond a stretch. I’ve found no history to back up that claim, and there’s nothing written in the Roman histories concerning such a thing that I’m aware of (hence my asking you for actual citations and references). What I have found are numerous nearly identical claims that what we call a Christmas tree is distinctly linked to Germany and is of German invention.
Again, if you can provide citations, I’m willing to read those and revise my opinions if they are in alignment with reality. Broad stretches don’t really cut it for me I’m afraid.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:29pmJeremiah 10:3-4, “For the customs of the peoples are false: a tree from the forest is cut down, and worked with an ax by the hands of an artisan. People deck it with silver and gold they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move.”
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alinskythis
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:29amWell, it’s officially an all-out war on Christ. Quel suprise.
Here’s the fun part, and the part where Faith becomes the winner… I’m going with Theodore Geisel and The Grinch Who Stole Christmas.
He’s a pisser. He didn’t get the memo.
Guess what?
Merry Christmas. Good will to All Men. Peace on Earth, Zippy!
Or, if you’re a James Brown aficionado, you might “feel good.”
It’s all about “intention.” (The Evil Office likes that word, “Intention.”)
(Yay, Good Guys!)
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:23pmALINSKTTHIS……Yeay Good Guys……f’sure…..
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athiest-infedel
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:29amJust don’t forget that without atheists all of the comforts you have today would not exist because if the church still ran things the computer, the car, electricity would be from the devil just like when the world was found to round not flat…blasphemy!
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:32amUm actually many of the technolgies we have today are made from people of all walks of life. Athiests didn’t build everything…
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:34amAlso I think you have confused all Christians with the historical Catholics… It was actually Christians that were among to leave that system and reform.
Also remember copernicus and galleo were ‘christians’; although they were persecuted by the Catholic church.
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encinom
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:58amYou forget that the repressive Puritans were also Christians. Look at the war Baptists wage today against science being taught in schools.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:06pmSure the Puritans became what they escaped from, just like the Catholics or the King’s anglican church.
People should check out history of Rhode Island if they really want to understand a proper society based on Religious Freedom.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:09pm@Enicom
I generally don’t read your posts, but I found your comment on the Puritans being repressive rather humorous. It really does expose both a huge gap in your education as well as a huge amount of prejudice on your part. Clearly you get your idea of Puritans from your Leftist professors. If you actually study the historical Puritans as they formed and emigrated from England, you’d not be able to write your screed without laughing at your own ignorance.
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encinom
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:18pmFunny, Ghost, since it was the New England Puritans that waged the first war of Christmas and on celebrations of any type.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:20pmGhost it wasn’t the initial Puritans, but their later decendents when the colony grew, and they started going after people with different interpretations of the bible. That’s when Roger Williams was forced to leave, and create his own colony of Rhode Island.
So ya early Puritans were actually pretty open, infact they colonized with alot of non-believers and soldiers. But something happened in the century afterwards.
It’s Rhode Island’s treatise on religious liberty that inspired much of the Founder’s views on religious liberty as well. But of course none ofthe founders tried to ‘ban’ people from celebrating on public land, as far as I can find. Many actually did celebrate on gov land.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:35pmhttp://www.masstraveljournal.com/places/boston-cambridge/when-christmas-was-banned-boston
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:37pmHangings? What the hell are you talking about?
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:02pmSacredHonor, You seem knowledgeable, but I gotta correct you in one respect.
“Galileo is often remembered for his conflict with the Roman Catholic Church. His controversial work on the solar system was published in 1633. It had no proofs of a sun-centered system (Galileo’s telescope discoveries did not indicate a moving earth) and his one “proof” based upon the tides was invalid. It ignored the correct elliptical orbits of planets published twenty five years earlier by Kepler. Since his work finished by putting the Pope’s favorite argument in the mouth of the simpleton in the dialogue, the Pope (an old friend of Galileo’s) was very offended. After the “trial” and being forbidden to teach the sun-centered system, Galileo did his most useful theoretical work, which was on dynamics. Galileo expressly said that the Bible cannot err, and saw his system as an alternate interpretation of the biblical texts.”
Basically Galileo submitted shoddy work that was only accepted by the church as a hypothesis. Galileo pushed for his flawed work to be accepted as a “theory” instead, and when it was continually denied, he drew an unflattering cartoon of the pope, which would have been the equivalency of drawing a Hitler mustache on your college professors face when submitting plagarized work for a second time.
Galileo was the equivalent of a public nuisance of his day, and got a pretty light sentence all things considered.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:07pm@Enicom
Oh my. Well, I try to help you. :)
@Sacred
Yes, it’s interesting to me how little know that. Puritans were actually quite open, and women could even sue their husbands for divorced if he refused to…um…provide her ample services in the ol’ matrimonial bedchambers. I believe the far more prudish/anti-fun influence later in American likely emanates from an intertwining of Calvinism, but that’s just speculation on my part.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:11pm@Cabrito
You’re on the right track, but I need to correct your correction.
The actual work wasn’t shoddy, and was a matter of dicussion between Galileo and several highly placed Church members in an academic peaceful sense. The actual offense Galileo was brought to the tribunal for was similar to what you say, except that it was the Preface to the work he published, which didn’t even take great pains to disguise the narrative character “Simplicio” as being an analog for the Pope, whom Galileo’s fictional character basically made to look like a buffoon.
After Galileo’s trial, the Church actually removed the Preface, then republished the work complete otherwise, and distributed it without any kind of controversy. In other words, had Galileo not be the model for the modern snarky, sneering, condescending Leftist in his work and not published the Preface with the actual science, nothing would have happened. The Church had zero problem with the science. Modern re-writing of history however likes to cast it otherwise, for obvious reasons.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:16pmOne more and I’m done for today lol
“Copernicus was the Polish astronomer who put forward the first mathematically based system of planets going around the sun. He attended various European universities, and became a Canon in the Catholic church in 1497. His new system was actually first presented in the Vatican gardens in 1533 before Pope Clement VII who approved, and urged Copernicus to publish it around this time. Copernicus was never under any threat of religious persecution – and was urged to publish both by Catholic Bishop Guise, Cardinal Schonberg, and the Protestant Professor George Rheticus. Copernicus referred sometimes to God in his works, and did not see his system as in conflict with the Bible.”
So Copernicus was never actually in trouble for his work. If anything, he was encouraged to continue because he was not being a shameless jerk to the authorities of the day who subsidized his projects, as Galileo did, whom bit the hand that fed him.
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencefaith.html
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:47pmHmm, it seems that athiests also get the history of Cristopher Columbus wrong as well…. Accusing the scholar and priest class of being unscientific and thinking the world was flat. Yet they were the ones that actually knew the world was round (a fact that could actually be traced back earlier to Greece, IIRC).
So easy to try to blame them on the “dark ages” and ‘ignorance”.
But actually it was the priesthood that supported or introduced many of the scientists during the renaissance era.
There definitely were quite a few protestants that they put on trial and killed though, or at least imprisoned.
If you count the crusades many people were killed on both sides. But both sides are equally to blame. At least for the first few crusades there were justifiable reasons to get into the war, an an attempt to protect personal determination for their country and push muslims out of their countries. But greed worked its way into later crusades, and some of the crusaders sacked western ‘free’ countries in order to plunder them. But one must also take into consideration that many crusaders were not necessarily Catholic church members. Besides peasants and rich that got involved for redemption, or believing they were protecting their home countries, there actually were quite a few mercenaries that joined up for promises of the riches only.
Again though you gotta be careful not to throw everyone under the bus, and remember there was good among the bad.
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:28pmATHE-INFED….Man, you have a really distorted view of what Christianity is. Now, I myself don’t have much to do with today’s church, they have nearly, every one, been “neutralized”, and are apostate.
I’m a lifelong “born from above” Christian. I have a degree in art. Play guitar and drums and piano for 40+ years. I have been married twice. I have computers and cell phones, Digital this and all that…..love SCI-Fi…..and write poetry critical of all of these things. I am informed and able.
Actually, I look at atheists as mis-informed and dis-abled.
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:23pmEncinom…You can’t talk about faith or Christianity without showing yourself to be a fool……keep on talkin’ Fool.
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thibx
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:27amthere is no athiest in hell. they believe then. i would like to see their face 30 seconds after they die.
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DeavonReye
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:50amThanks for celebrating the billions of faces that will be in torment for trillions of years, THIBX. You have proved your immoral and ghastly character to us all.
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:42pmDEVON…your ignorance of reality is huge….Scripture says that there is only “one” soul in all creation who is condemned, and that is only because he asked for it. Everyone who has EVER been born of woman is eligible for eternal life. This is FACT!!
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DeavonReye
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:22pmMy “ignorance of reality”. . . . . . you mean because I don’t believe in a supernatural entity, who never shows itself at all, . . . and sounds an AWFUL lot like petty humans, in the pages of the bible, . . . and constructed a Hell, . . . “for the devil and his angels”, yet somehow forgot that he would put humans there too, . . . but gives people who merely believe a non-credible story [credulity] an eternally blissful, happy, and never suffering afterlife just because of that “blind faith”? Is this the “reality” that I am ignorant of?
Please provide evidence FOR your claims. You stated it as a “FACT”, . . . capitolized and everything. Let’s see the evidence.
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The_Doors_Of_Perception
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:53pmI have heard many serial killers say similar things. Taking joy and pleasure seeing their victims faces in the last moments of their lives. You are truly sick and need counseling
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mmishio
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:26amThis was a pretty accurate statement by him. People who mire is misery can not stand anyone who is positive and happy. Just look around you and you will see it on display daily.
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Nevermind
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:18amI love the stereotypical views of Pat Robertson. I could say all white people i met a racist hicks who hate others due to lack of eduction but that would be based off seeing a certain segment of that population and isnt an accurate depiction of that group. While i am sure there are some nasty atheists on the flip side of the coin there are some nasty bible thumpers out there as well but i wouldnt judge all based on the actions of the few.
The bottom line is noone is telling him or any Christian they cannot celebrate the holiday, feel free to have a tree and presents in your home. But on public property that is paid for by all ( not just christians) the law is clear and it violates the seperation of church and state. You can argue about all the other violations like 10 commandments at the supreme court but that is for another debate. This is about Xmas and Christians are still free to celebrate all they like on their own property.
Just keep the fairy tales and myths to your own family and private property is all that is asked. If you respect others you get that respect back. But when you push your views wiht public displays on property paid for by some who dont share your views you will have others push their views right back to you. You know the whole ” love thy neighbor” concept.
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TeresaJ
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:52amShortisightedness is shortsighted. By pushing on communities who obviously want displays of their faith, you only shoot yourselves in the foot. A house divided cannot stand.
The Constitution has been clear from the beginning, and the actions of our forefathers reflect it. We are most certainly allowed to have public displays of faith on public land. Our courts have been defying the Constitution for years now (and never moreso than this administration), and due to it, our country and government is coming apart at the seams.
With a country of people whose ancestors were willing to fight to have freedom, do you think people will stand by forever and let you trample on them? You have the freedom to disbelieve God, be as meanspirited and nasty as you want. We have the freedom to ostracize your nasty rear.
Forced insurance, forced abortion coverage, forced hiring practices, forced religious practices… this is not the America our forefathers set up, and it won’t change unless enough people are willing to do what it takes to fight it.
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Old Ogre
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:20pmAtheism is a fairy tale and a myth too;
You believe that garbage just as much as all the non-believers that came before you for thousands of years. You are nothing new, nothing special, no smarter or no better.
You go out in public and preach your views, gather in groups and have your sermons and indoctrinate others into your faith in nothingness.
YOU ARE A RELIGION. Merry Christmas!
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:19pm@Old
Actually a very astute observation. It is as much a statement of faith to say that there is a God, as to say that there is definitively no God. Since one cannot prove a negative, and absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, then any qualitatively affirmative declaration of the non-Existence of God is necessarily one born by no facts, ergo, it is a statement of faith.
The fun in that situation is that militant atheism, with its inability to say simply “I do not know, so I maintain disbelief until evidence is presented” (as any adherent of science should do), shoots itself in the foot and becomes it’s own brand of faith. An honest atheist would likely have to say, based on objective evidence, “I do not believe in the supernatural, lacking evidence of its existence. If evidence is presented then I will examine it dispassionately and revise my position accordingly”.
But no, it’s “There is no God!”, and they become immediately Faithful by that declaration. Oh, how I love logic and reason. :)
In this battle, the Christians necessarily prevail, since they know that they come to their belief by faith alone. They have nothing else to do or say, they are logically consistent.
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:49pmGhost …..Religion is the antithesis of “faith”. …. just as presence of God makes faith moot.
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DeavonReye
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:18am“It’s been so beautiful. The nation comes together. We sing Christmas carols. We give gifts to each other. We have lighted trees and it’s just a beautiful thing.”
How is that specifically “christian”?
I’m not concerned with any “critiques” from Pat Robertson.
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Locked
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:27am“How is that specifically “christian”? ”
I thought the exact same thing.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:35amHalf th Christmas carols are pagan or secular in nature.
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memyselfandi
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:23pmThe celebration of Christmas is entirely “Christian”. If it weren’t for the birth of Jesus none of these traditions would be happening at all. I can’t help but wonder what would become of the US economy if we didn’t celebrate Christmas the way we do. Many retailors rely heavily on the Christmas shopping season to survive.
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DeavonReye
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:44pmBecause they formed this celebration as “christian” doesn’t mean that the symbols are. Most are of pagan origin. The things that Robertson quoted above are not the things found IN christianity. Believe me, . . . if there were no nativity scenes or religiously motivated decorations, commerce would not suffer.
I have to qualify my comment, because I will get someone who will misunderstand and start personally attacking me. So, I have stated that I don’t care if you have religious symbols associated with your holiday season. It IS a big part of many people’s lives, and that should be allowed.
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Shadowangel
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:02pmI couldn’t care less about the supposedly pagan origins, and I am not even very religious, I simply like Christmas, the music, the decorations, and the general atmosphere of joy during that time. And I do feel that some atheists are grinchy (not all of course), Christmas trees and decorations don’t hurt anyone. The “keep Christmas in your own home” attitude just ruins it. Even in Iran, which is a Muslim country, they celebrate Christmas and there is decorations everywhere.
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Carlinpa
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:16amIf atheist leave us Christians alone on our holiday, Christmas, we will agree to leave them alone on their holiday, April 1st.. hows that?
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:31amYou can leave your athiest friends alone on Christmas, don’t invite them home for Christmas Dinner, and don’t give them presents. They don’t like that anyways ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98dp_-o6QpU
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Female
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:44pmSH,
Cute video may all atheists receive the gift of tolerance this seasons greetings!
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:59pmMay everyone ‘respect’ everyone else, and their cultural celebrations and stop trying to silence or block others. Live and let live, go beyond tolerance, even if you disagree with someone else’s beliefs or symbols.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:05pmAlso, let’s not limit it to the holiday season… Can people live to respect and live and let live all year long? Before people start killing or attacking each other? Stop trying ot restrict anybody.
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Seagal45
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:13amHe is not wrong.
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DYNA
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:10amPat Robertson is right.
Satan is wrathful and crazy over his impending doom, then so is it with all who are under his influence.
Allen West made a similar observation about liberal politicians in office and the influence they want to have on others. West said if they want to be miserable they can keep it to themselves by staying at home and not try to thrust it on others through the abuse of government.
Must be a tie in between atheists and liberal politicians.
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:00amIt’s obvious from the morning’s pile of drek that theblaze has not started it’s push to be the new 60 minutes.
Should be any day now, huh?
Half the readership will vanish with the gossip, trivia, and inconsequential, ya think?
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:15amMaybe you will finally go away.
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:55pmWE can only hope, dude!!!!!
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longknifed
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:58amAHHH Pat swindler Robertson casting judgment on others….Funny how he and Jerry Falwell teamed up to put their competitors behind bars…like any good “christian” would.
If the Bible said America should be abolished, he would advocate it. The religious “right” voted for JIMMY CARTER. I saw Jesus in my used kleenex…VOTE FOR ME.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:04am“Funny how he and Jerry Falwell teamed up to put their competitors behind bars…like any good “christian” would.”
And know you are judging him.
Hello Pot, I’m Kettle…. You’re black.
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longknifed
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:13pmHey Octop***y,
I wrote the book on these telefraudsters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scandals_involving_evangelical_Christians
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Gonzo
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:53amEase up Pat, they CAN”T take Christmas away from us. They can take away decorations and symbols, but that’s not what Christmas is anyway. You know that.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:02amYeah, I’m no fan of his pandering either. And let’s be honest, the majority of people regardless of belief system are pretty damned miserable in life and who cannot tolerate even basic dissent from their own world views, and I’m including many Christians in this as well as other religions.
The notion of “live and let live” is lost on a majority of Americans these days.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:02amI don’t know, I kind of like the fiery Pat. If he starts going all “cray cray” on the anti-Christmas zealots, I might start watching 700 club.
FYI, just as a biblical matter (and I LOVE Christmas), there is no biblical command to celebrate Christ’s birth. Ironically, it is a FEDERALLY OBSERVED HOLIDAY! That’s got to eat at the atheists panties!
So as a matter of law, how can Christmas be legally observed by our government and nativity scenes on public square be unconstitutional? The make-believe separation clause not withstanding.
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Gonzo
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:14amVet, I just don’t like religious leaders (and Pat is one to some) jumping on O’Reilly’s war on Christmas stuff he does for ratings. Christians should be less worried about Christmas decorations and more worried about their fellow man. Me included.
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:14amYes, symbols. Flag pins and Christmas trees. The only commitments that can be mustered by faux patriots and faux Christians. But stay tuned, the annual pilgrimage to the War on Christmas by the rightwing media is just beginning. And it will surely spell the demise of all that is sacred.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:18amThey may try to take away the religious trimmings and decoration, but I will damn well guarantee you THEY will be taking the day off, too. Probably the week.
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Locked
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:22amI’m agreeing with both Gonzo and Jefferson. Christmas isn’t about the decorations, trees, or Grinches. It’s kinda crazy that Pat Robertson thinks it is. And so long as people are free to do what they want, on their own property, without harming others… live and let live indeed.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:40amActually everyday is Christmas…. The symbols and the traditions are just dressing. It’s no different than any other day. Without the symbols or the traditions its pretty much the same day as every other day.
If you want to contemplate Christ’s birth that’s something that can be done on any day as well.
The gift giving, or the decorating makes it fun. That’s the fun pagan and secular stuff. The christmas tree itself or holiday tree or whatever you wanna call it is still a pagan symbol. December 25th itself was chosen from Mithras and Tammuz traditions from their birthdate and winter solstice.
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Individualism
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:57amignorant generalization many Atheists like me want as little authority running over them in their lives as possible.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:14pmSquid, Christmas was celebrated by Thomas Jefferson in the White House of all places.
It was made a government national holiday under Ulysses S. Grant… Ironically he may be be said to be one of the largest supporters of the wall of seperation of church and state, particularly in schools. But he also included a wall of seperation between state and athiesm, state and religion, and state and paganism, or any philosophy when it came to schools.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:21pm“Let us labor to add all needful guarantees for the greater security of free thought, free speech, a free press, pure morals, unfettered religious sentiments, and equal rights and privileges to all men, irrespective of nationality, color, or religion. Encourage free schools and resolve that not one dollar of the money appropriated to their support shall be appropriated to the support of any sectarian school; that neither the state or nation, not both combined, shall support institutions of learning other than those sufficient to afford to every child in the land the opportunity of a good common-school education, unmixed with sectarian, pagan, or atheistical dogma.
Leave the matter of religion to the family altar, the church, and private schools entirely supported by private contributions. Keep the church and state forever separate. With these safeguards I believe the battles which created the Army of the Tennessee will not have been fought in vain.”-Ulysses S. Grant.
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70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:49amIt is unconstitutional to mix atheism and state. God is at the center of our constitution. Thus atheist can not run for public office.
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encinom
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:17amGod is no where to be found in the Constitution, actually religion’s influence on the Government is limited by the Constitution.
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TEIN
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:06pm“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”
Yeah, Emcimon the Constitution does not say “God”, but those crazy founder’s did mention that each person has Rights given to them by their creator, which I am pretty sure was the bases for governing the writing of the Constitution…what does the Middle East Radical handbook says??
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justangry
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:08pm“Thus atheist can not run for public office.” Precisely. It’s not the atheists that are doing this to you all. WE HAVE NO POWER. Schmucks!!
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encinom
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:21pmTEIN
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:06pm
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”
Yeah, Emcimon the Constitution does not say “God”, but those crazy founder’s did mention that each person has Rights given to them by their creator, which I am pretty sure was the bases for governing the writing of the Constitution…what does the Middle East Radical handbook says??
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Idiot you quoted the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. First learn basic civics and American History before your comment.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:41pmActually, Encinom, you are right. That’s from the Declaration of Independence.
However, I think you misread the context of his comment. I had to read over a couple of times, but I think he’s saying that the Declaration of Independence inspired and was the basis for the Constitution. I don’t think he was saying that the quote was specifically from the “constitution”.
But I could have misread his post.
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justangry
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:59pmAlso, in the declaration note, “… by THEIR creator…” Not YOUR creator…
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jblaze
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:03pmTEIN
Your point was made well. Encommy is simply splitting hairs….he knows the truth and can’t take it,,,so he is boondoggling like all lefties do when they are losing an argument. Showing their lack of strength and/or character.
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longknifed
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 3:19amEncinom,
you are the biggest jackass on the Blaze. I can’t stand evangelicals like these beckbots but you are such a faker when its comes to the constitution. HELLO DUMBASS, it says GOD all over it. It doesnt say Jesus or secular or atheist.
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shorelineliz
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:46amWay to go Pat Robertson! Rant and RAve all you want. History has already proven you right!
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Locked
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:43am““Atheists don’t like our happiness. They don’t want you to be happy,” he proclaimed. “They want you to be miserable. They’re miserable so they want you to be miserable. So they want to steal your holiday away from you.””
I don’t think Pat Robertson has ever actually met an atheist. Most of the ones I’ve met are not happier or more miserable than most of the Christians I know. I’ve also never met anyone who wants other people to be miserable and thinks the best way to do that is to “steal your holiday away from you.”
Robertson is, like usual, being a drama queen. Christians like myself realize that he’s full of it and only provides more ammunition for anti-theists (not atheists) who point at him and go “See? They’re crazy!”
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shorelineliz
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:51amI’ve met many atheists. They are unhappy, cynical, arrogant and think their “scientific” or “philosophical” position is not only unchallengeable from the annals of history but is “all that and a bag of chips.” When you ask them to defend their position from history and literature they cannot do so. They sneer at and mock the idea of an invisible all powerful Creator as they continue to spout off their belief in oxygen and atoms. Two things that are invisible.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:05amActually, I’m a mixture of both of your views. The Left based atheists I’ve met are sour, bitter and angry to a person (in my experience of course, so it’s anecdotal I realize). If they are not currently offended, they look especially hard for reasons to become offended. On the other hand, many libertarian atheists I’ve met are content to leave others alone and generally don’t go around looking for offense when none was offered. I can’t recall meeting a conservative atheist, and am not sure if S.E. Cupp qualifies as conservative or libertarian, but she’s a model of civil acceptance of the notion of respecting others religious beliefs without feigning outrage or disgust.
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In the O.C.
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:09amYour comment, “I doubt Pat Robertson has ever met an atheist”……… you ARE saying that for dramatic value, aren’t you? You don’t SERIOUSLY believe Mr. Robertson has NEVER, in his entire lifetime, EVER met an atheist? You’re not really that uninformed, are you?
Furthermore, I do agree that there most certainly are atheists – and others as well – wishing to take away our holiday AND be miserable. Oh yes, those people do exist out there. If you have been so sheltered you’ve never met any – and especially since you are a self-identifying Christian – you are one lucky person or maybe you just never interact with non-Christians. That couldn’t be, though, could it?
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:16amAGHASTATJEFFERSON . . . .The right wing Tea party types I’ve met are sour, bitter and angry to a person (in my experience of course, so it’s anecdotal I realize). If they are not currently offended, they look especially hard for reasons to become offended.
Works all over.
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athiest-infedel
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:19amWhen atheists take over billions die????? Read your bible ans see how many die in the name of god, I am not an anti-theist but getting close. The troubles in the world today are religious based and that can’t be denied and that is why atheists get so angry.
This is where you christians wish I would die and burn in hell, show me your hate.
Merry Christmas
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Locked
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:20am@In the OC
“you ARE saying that for dramatic value, aren’t you? You don’t SERIOUSLY believe Mr. Robertson has NEVER, in his entire lifetime, EVER met an atheist? You’re not really that uninformed, are you?”
Pat Robertson’s comments are about every single atheist out there: “Atheists don’t like our happiness. They don’t want you to be happy.” I cannot believe he’s actually ever met an atheist if he thinks every single one of them thinks like that. So no, I’m not being dramatic: either Robertson is, or he’s lying. If I take him at his word, and I’ve met plenty of happy atheists, that must mean he’s never met any or he’s lying.
“If you have been so sheltered you’ve never met any – and especially since you are a self-identifying Christian – you are one lucky person or maybe you just never interact with non-Christians.”
Nope, I’ve met plenty of atheists who are happy, and plenty who are miserable. Same with Christians. Ironically, the people I’ve met who most desire to tear away others’ beliefs are fundamentalist Evangelical Christians. Most atheists I’ve met are like the libertarians Jefferson mentioned: they just shrug and say “Believe whatever you want, I don’t mind.” Most fundamentalist Evangelicals however will insist that your particular brand of Christianity (or belief in general) is wrong and you need to believe what they believe exactly or you’re going to Hell.
Pretty unpleasant lot, truthfully. But I’ve gotten off-topi
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:41amOh Wango, you try so hard to contribute. Keep it up guy, I’m sure you’ll make it!
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brother_ed
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:45am@GHOST
Well said.
There is a difference between being firm in one’s convictions while allowing others a different point of view and being firm in one’s convictions and telling everyone else they’re wrong.
As a Christian, I believe we are commanded to be peacemakers; we are also commanded to preach the Gospel. This requires a bit if tact to avoid being offensive. It is a fine line, however, it is a line we must try to walk.
To divide is a tactic of the adversary. Those who engage in it are in need of repentance. However, speaking what you believe to be truth should not be construed as being decisive. We have devolved into a state where stating a differing opinion is considered a crime.
We need to recognize the divisive spirit that is prevailing in the world right now and choose not to participate in it.
The best advise advise I can give is do not be easily offended, and try not to be offensive.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:51amI’m with you, Ed. :)
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Max jones
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:51pmATEISTINFEDEL wrote”When atheists take over billions die????? Read your bible ans see how many die in the name of god, I am not an anti-theist but getting close. The troubles in the world today are religious based and that can’t be denied and that is why atheists get so angry.
This is where you christians wish I would die and burn in hell, show me your hate.
No hate here….as I feel you are correct…..hard to deny. Where I take issue, is in your relating religion with Christianity……my faith, apparently, has no recorded history nor does it have a definition.
My faith is me. Every thought, every second of every minute….my Reality. I’m not a religious
man. I study Scripture….I pray continually, and take nothing at face value. I know what is going on, but I do not proselytize, nor do I evangelize. Although I do preach and teach. My focus is on believers….I have very little to do at all with non-Christians. The gospel has been offered to all. And I try to ignore with those who have not, Christ. When I can’t ignore them, I am NOT averse to a fight…any where, any time. Hurt one of my flock, and feel the horns.
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TEIN
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:42amThe religion of Atheism working the judicial system to become the church of the state…..they change USA history of being a country that believes in Christ, therefore have to destroy anything to do with Christ to gain their position of power….People never forget who you are and the history of how you got here…
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justangry
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:40amAnother idiot religious collectivist that has no concept of how he’s being manipulated by stories of a few court cases. Wonder what religion the lawyers and judges responsible for these decisions are? I imagine they’re Christians or Jews because atheists don’t get elected or appointed to federal positions of power.
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Zipit
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:48amAngry! Your Patheticness is once again oozing out of your tiny little brain!
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justangry
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:03amOk you little twit… Name ONE atheist that has EVER sat on the Supreme Court. Stop scapegoating atheists for something your own people are doing to you.
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justangry
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:14pmCome Zipit… you punk-ass bi’otch! Just one atheist that sat on the court and declared the separation of church and state. JUST ONE!!!
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justangry
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:07pmAnyone?
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Zipit
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:21pmPppppp-ah-thetic!
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justangry
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:46pmYes you are. Your childish comments and the crickets from the peanut gallery are every bit as telling as when I asked what Socialist / Fascist Obama policies Romney proposed getting rid of.
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Zipit
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:06pmWhat’s childish is you lecturing everyone for another four years about your beliefs and what you percieve to be the shortcomings of others. I don’t reply to your posts thinking I can change you! Nor will your consistently arrogant rants and name calling change the views of most of the “peanut gallery”, as you describe them here on the blaze!
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justangry
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:13pmPerceive to be shortcomings?!!!! Every other day Billy Hallowell posts something about an atheist doing something Christians don’t like. I view the comments of everyone essentially calling me a commie, with no morals, or jeers about how they can’t wait until I meet eternal damnation solely based on not believing a book to be true and it isn’t even the atheists that have done anything to you people because you all would NEVER let anyone without faith ever have any power. I believe the Blaze’s poll on whether their readers would EVER vote for an atheist was like 80%+ no. But the fact remains that you cannot one name one atheist that has ever interpreted the constitution the way you all hate. You can’t blame us for something Christian and Jewish justices have already done to you. If you do, you needed to chided like the moron you are for taking the media’s bait deflecting attention from who is actually responsible for it. Being right and arrogant aren’t necessarily one in the same and anyone with a lick of sense knows I’m right about this.
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longknifed
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 3:27amjust,
I give up on these people. They have ruined the only good thing I looked forward to – revolution. Yes they even hijacked that idea, just like they did with the Tea party just to discredit it by injecting it will JUDISCH propaganda. ISRAEL ISRAEL ISRAEL.
These beckbots even expect us to die in a revolution to install Mitt Romney as our new leader. They are worse than the leftists with their entitlements. They just can’t ditch that eschatological appendage called ISRAEL. They need that $7 trillion global military empire so they can have visions of dreidels spinning in their heads as they fall asleep. They will never accept that Jews hate them even more than they hate muslims and even greater than their love for Israel.
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encinom
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:37amNobody is steal the Christmas Holiday. But as you say its, your holiday, keep your holiday in your houses of worships and in your homes. Keep government buildings, neutral. We are a secular republic, not a theocracy. Religion belongs in private homes and houses of worship, not in city hall.
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AmericanStrega
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:54amDo you celebrate Christmas? Do you exchange presents? Do you have a Christmas Tree in your home? I bet you do and that is okay. God Bless you and Merry Christmas.
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longknifed
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:59amYou’re only half-right. We are not a theocracy, but we are not secular…the declaration of Independence and constitution smacks of DEISM…not secularism, which you will find in the Soviet constitution.
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Female
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:13amGO INTO THE ALL THE WORLD and Preach the gospel to every living creature.
Not stay in your house.
Everybody likes a party, so, why not let Christians just have theirs.
We get stuck with Halloween decorations, fat Santa, Ester or Isis fertility worship, Lephracuns, New Years drunkeness, Mardi Gari, super bowl sunday, abortion and homosexual pride parades.
I don’t understand the hostility and the suppression of free expression. If you don’t believe, why care? I don’t believe in all the above but if others want to celebrate peaceable no problem. When I see stuff I don’t like I look in a different direction. Really not too hard to do!
So, why can’t they just; leave GOD, Jesus and us alone on CHRISTmas and Resurrection Sunday?
If we live our lives following the Bible, it doesn’t harm anybody nor do our little T or Christmas decorations. If it is just fables and old wivestales, we just stay dead, decay and become dust. If it is true, we rise and are judged…just as you will be but we will be saved through faith because of the little, despised baby who later died on the “T” for the sins of the world,
and tragically you……but you still have time to accept the gift until your last thought…
Jesus…
Merry Christmas!
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TEIN
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:20amThen why is the Religion of Atheism allowed in public places?? I see quotes of philosophy and symbols of men and belief’s in public schools and public buildings, but those are not condemn?? There is no god, so Jesus Christ was just a man who had other men write his philosophy and it was published in a book, so why can I not have a symbol in public??? I see Darwin’s face in many public venues and yet his followers are herald as enlightened?? What does you summer reeducation camp say ENCIMON??
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:53am@Female
Abortion parades?
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encinom
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:56am@Female
Nobody is stopping you from celebrating Christmas or your religion on private property. The issue is in tax payer funded areas, like City Hall, areas that, by their design are meant for all to use, should any one group hijack it with symbols of their belief.
@Tien
You are protesting science and education. Do you long for a return to the Dark Ages when myth and superstition reigned. There is no atheist agenda in schools, neutrality is not promotion. Nor is teaching facts and scientific theories anti-religion. The bible is not a science text and creation myths are not based on any scientific truths.
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TEIN
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:18pm@Encinom…I do not protest science, and if you truly understood that “book of myth’s” you’d understand that is all about understanding principles and how and what makes them consistently work…provable science is awesome and something I enjoy and encourage… I do protest the dogma faux observational science of origin of species that is one of the bases for the Religion of Atheism therefore the symbol of those belief’s should fall under the same scrutiny as other belief systems….What does the propaganda from former USSR say??
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:31pmThat’s quite a leap.
Allowing a simple, tiny cross to make it’s way onto the lawn of a library.
Tell me squarely, no BS Encinom,
If I tied two twigs together with string, and form a cross shape, then place that cross-shaped object on the property line of a government sponsored building, and nobody tries to stop my action,
does that or does that not make the geography the event took place in a theocracy? Yes, or no?
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encinom
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:42pm@Tein, yep you protest science. Darwin is the father of the theory of evolution, but since he first wrote the theory of Origin of Species, the theory has changed, been tested modified as new evidence demanded so. It is not a dogma, it is not set in stone and above testing, its not a religious creation myth. Darwin is in schools for his advancements in scientific understanding, something you refuse to understand.
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Tractorboy
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:26pmEncinom,Hey buddy, We the people own the government, dispite what you want, it was born and breed from Judao-Christianity, you guy’s hate that point and always leave it out…..So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Female
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:42pmGJ,
Abortion parades= pro-choice protests
LGBT Pride month +30 celebrating sex but no tolerance for “Christ”mas
2012http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/06/01/presidential-proclamation-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender-pride-mon
Gay Pride Decorations on US Embassy in Iceland. http://ontd-political.livejournal.com/9915818.html
Virgina FEDeral Reserve Gay flag http://vigilance.teachthefacts.org/2011/06/flags.html
EN
Seasonal celebrations and free expression of cultural traditions including even Papa smurf if one likes should all be allowed in th “T”own square as they are owned by the people. They do not hurt the unbeliever. It is a matter of tolerance, freedom, and expression.
President Obama ” the pursuit of a Nation where all are equal, and all have the full and unfettered opportunity to pursue happiness and live openly and freely.”
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:59pm@Female
I was just ribbing you a bit over the sentence. No offense meant, t’was but a bit o’ fun. :)
Happy Thanksgiving, btw.
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Female
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:39pmGJ,
Thanxs and Happy Thanxsgiving to you, too.
Actually, your comment encouraged me to do a search and those links are the result of your inquiry. WH, DHS, CIA, DOD all made long speeches (no, I didn’t listen) and searched all their old closets to find speakers and parade their newly liberated “sex” slaves.
Btw: I believe lgbt is all about sex like foods which require a very unique appetite (liver, gizzards, balls=RM oysters, tongue) and many don’t like.
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encinom
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:21pmTractorboy
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:26pm
Encinom,Hey buddy, We the people own the government, dispite what you want, it was born and breed from Judao-Christianity, you guy’s hate that point and always leave it out…..So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Right we the people own the government, the Atheists, the Jews, the Hindus and Muslims, along with the Catholics, Baptists, etc. No one religion controls the government, nor those the government represent the interests of any one religion.
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Cavallo
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:35amMost, not all Pat. There are good atheists who are deep thinking philosophers and wholly comfortable with themselves and those around them. Those are NOT the ones you hear about in the news media and on internet forums. The ones you usually get exposed to are the anti Christian bigots with a grudge and a chip on their shoulders.
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shorelineliz
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:44am“Good Atheists?” How could they possibly be “good” as they sneer and mock the idea of a Just and Benevolent Creator? Hmmm? And what would their alternative “Philosophy” be to that? When Atheism takes over history tells us that millions die. It is the Belief and Faith in a Just and Benevolent Creator that keeps people like Stalin, HItler, Mussolini and others in check. Just ask millions of Jews and Ukranian Catholics. They will tell you about Atheists.
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Cavallo
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:52am@Shore, There are some non believing libertarians who are quite happy to ignore your worship who don’t see a display of religious faith a threat to their own non-belief in it. As an example I point out Dr Jon Ray who runs the Tongue Tied, Greenie Watch, and Dissecting Leftism blog/websites. I also mentioned in my original post that such atheists are in a minority of those that claim the title.
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DeavonReye
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:20amShore, PLEASE learn the actual cause [and political phylosophies] before making comments like this. They are factually wrong.
And yes, . . . there ARE good atheists/agnostics.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:33amHey Pat, why don’t you give some more prophecy? You’re so good at it!
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