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Pat Robertson Unleashes Christmas Rant: Atheists Are ‘Miserable’ Grinches Who ‘Don’t Like Our Happiness’ & ‘Want to Steal Your Holiday’

Atheist activists will likely take issue with religious broadcaster Pat Roberson and his harsh critique of their tactics — and worldview. On CBN’s “The 700 Club,” Robertson recently addressed the ongoing “War on Christmas,” telling viewers that “the Grinch” may very literally be trying to steal Christmas.

“The Grinch is trying to steal our holiday,” the faith leader said of ongoing atheistic attacks on religious sentiment. “It’s been so beautiful. The nation comes together. We sing Christmas carols. We give gifts to each other. We have lighted trees and it’s just a beautiful thing.”

As for non-believing activists’ motivations for waging a “War on Christmas,” Robertson said that the problem may be rooted in secular Americans’ unhappiness and purported miserable nature — a Grinch-like worldview that he claims they’d like to impose on society as a whole.

“Atheists don’t like our happiness. They don’t want you to be happy,” he proclaimed. “They want you to be miserable. They’re miserable so they want you to be miserable. So they want to steal your holiday away from you.”

Watch “The 700 Club” host make his brief, yet pointed, comments, below:

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  • AppleAnnie
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:42am

    Finally! Something Robertson says….I agree with.

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  • Pig.Pen
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:51am

    If you are reading this and you are not a Christian, please understand that Pat Robertson does not speak for all Christians, or even most Christians. The Bible talks a lot about the Jewish religious leaders in the time of Christ known as Pharisees, unfortunately, Pat Robertson seems to have missed these large sections of the Bible because he is in fact a neo-Pharisee who is more interested in misrepresenting Christians and more importantly Christ, in order to maintain some level of notoriety and power.

    While we believe that Atheists, and all people who do not know Christ, have a void in there life that can only be filled by Christ, it does not necessarily mean that they are miserable. Furthermore, Jesus does not hate gay people or anyone else for that matter.

    That being said, we only wish to be afforded the same religious freedom that other groups are afforded in our celebration of Christmas.

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  • alias.stone
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 5:33am

    I agree with Pat and it’s just unbelievable what all an unbeliever has to believe in order to be an unbeliever.

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  • RamonPreston
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 3:42am

    Robertson should be less concerned about loosing Christmas and more concerned about the fact that God calls “Christmas” an abomination.

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  • The Third Archon
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:56pm

    “secular Americans’ unhappiness and purported miserable nature — a Grinch-like worldview that he claims they’d like to impose on society as a whole.”
    LOL–now isn’t THAT the height of irony coming from a theist in the currently dominant strain thereof in American culture.

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  • The Third Archon
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:37pm

    “PAT ROBERTSON UNLEASHES CHRISTMAS RANT: ATHEISTS ARE ‘MISERABLE’ GRINCHES WHO ‘DON’T LIKE OUR HAPPINESS’ & ‘WANT TO STEAL YOUR HOLIDAY’”
    Well what makes you happy is making people miserable who you find immoral for stupid, archaic, ignorant, and baseless grounds. So…yeah, I want to ruin your false and dangerous fantasies and the terribly destructive cultural practices and beliefs they have predicated…sorry. Actually, I lied, I’m not sorry at all, any more so than I’d expect Robertson to apologize to me for believing I am a wicked sinner who is going to hell unless I convert to Christianity. Our ideas are mutually exclusive, and I accept that. Whoever first declared the supposed “culture war” (a fabrication–there has ALWAYS been cultural divergences resulting in struggles to control the evolution of the culture in any and every culture) is irrelevant, because both Robertson and I intend to win it–history shall judge which of us it turns out were correct in the end, and I am content with that.

    Personally, I’d like to see this lame, aimless, religiously-divisive holiday we call “Christmas” (which if it ever had anything to do with Christianity, and for the majority of history celebrations occurring at what is now called “Christmas” didn’t, it certainly doesn’t now having been co-opted in all but name and imagery by commercialism–not that I’m complaining about that) dropped and have us return to the Saturnalia. The Romans knew how to p

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  • loneindividual
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:33pm

    God invented Underwear.

    It’s therefore magical.

    There’s nothing original about Atheists. They weren’t the first ones who wanted to die and stay dead. They weren’t even the first ones that hated false religion. They were just the first that thought all religions were false….and even that shouldn’t even be credited to them, cuz God thought the same thing and made Joseph Smith his Latter Day Prophet.

    TROLOLOL (not really cuz things really are that serious with you jokers)

    Atheists really are bitter and are full of revenge. That said. Theists also suck for not being the better people.

    You’re all gonna die and your lives meant nothing. Praise Jesus. For Death is Truth & only God can Conquer it. (whoever he is)

    Question:
    Now why can’t we all just get along?
    Answer:
    Cuz we never leave one another the Hell alone.

    I blame Masons (E Pluribus Unum Babylonians) & Atheists (Deservedly called Universal Bastards)….but I blame the Illuminati (Ordo Ab Chao) more than both…cuz they are the worst of both worlds.

    Love is a lie. Hate is real. The only way to find your way is to be lost in the way.

    Merry ThanksGiving & Happy Christmas & Jolly Hanukkah & Holy**** NWO Years to come.

    Who wants what I’m drinking! I promise, it’s fluoridated!

    - Former Mormon gone Lockean Deist (Locke was Non-Trinitarian Christian and provided the base work for the Declaration of Independence and the Idea of America {not Sir Bacon}. He was not a Mason yet was in the Q

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  • rollthebones
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:04pm

    I am a miserable Grinch. :)
    But remember, the Grinch really did not steal Christmas.

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  • HigherRoad
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:59pm

    Christianity is being backed into a corner where all rights and freedoms will eventually be removed. God approves of celebrations and observances which honor Him. The Bible is filled with the various Jewish holy days that were inspired by God. The giving of gifts is symbolic of the gifts brought by the Magi to the baby Jesus. It should be our privilege to worship and celebrate our faith as we please. Unfortunately, the commercialization of Christmas has overtaken the celebration of our Lord Jesus Christ’s birth. The churches must bring the true meaning of Christmas back to the forefront of our worship. The churches must also fight the destruction of all that is holy and honorable in an increasingly hostile secular world. Christ is the only Light in a world of darkness.

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  • jrc99
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:35pm

    “Atheists don’t like our happiness. They don’t want you to be happy,” he proclaimed. “They want you to be miserable. They’re miserable so they want you to be miserable. So they want to steal your holiday away from you.”

    Is Pat wrong?

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  • Aerocog
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:46pm

    Misery loves company.

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  • athiest-infedel
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:36pm

    Not all atheists are haters or unhappy, thats just a stupid statement, I have a very happy life, married 21yrs. never divorced, but try being atheist,conservative, and not a comunist. I too say live and let live, and yes I do have a christmas tree every year….My hyprocisy has no bounds…..lol

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    • normalmom
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:27pm

      If you aren’t pestering people about their Christian based decorations or about their beliefs then I say have a good day. However to those who are offended (boo hoo hoo) by a nativity scene and want the world to bow to their hurt feelings I say go find yourself a hole and stay in it.

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    • loneindividual
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:37pm

      No bounds? Then where’s Baby Jesus? I hope he’s not under the tree…or on it

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  • golfer8805
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:20pm

    Most atheists both like and celebrate Christmas. They just ignore the silly Jesus part.

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  • Grace1798
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:20pm

    Obama supports ISLAM and the Muslim Brotherhood. So don’t even go there.

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  • Tickdog
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:08pm

    He pretty much hit the nail on the head….

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  • DisgustedinUSA
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:52pm

    I just wish the atheists would keep to themselves. I find it AMAZING that they ONLY focus their attention on Christians….NOT on ANY other religion out there. You NEVER hear them ripping into buddhists, or muslims etc. Just Christians. Why? Cause Christianity is the ONLY True religion.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:58pm

      I’ve seen many who speak out against Islam. . . . Scientology. . . . Wicca. . . . Faith Healers. . . . dowsing, . . . etc. You just need to see articles that aren’t slanted solely towards “attacks on christianity”.

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    • athiest-infedel
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:48pm

      “Cause Christianity is the ONLY True religion.”
      How many wars have been started because of that statement, that means that there are about 4 billion people of different beliefs that are wrong? And you call atheists arrogant….really????
      Christians say they have a personal relationship with the creator of the UNIVERSE and were arrogant…really??? If I said I talk to god nobody would think anything of it but if I said I talk to god through my coffee pot you would think I’m nuts…….humility would go a long way for you.

      This is where you wish be dead and burning in hell, I get that a lot from christians.

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  • Grace1798
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:01pm

    Yea, these GOD Haters, and Jesus Haters cannot live and let live. No, they COME TO STEAL, KILL AND DESTROY, just like their father the devil. 1 John 3:10 “By this it is made clear who take their nature from God and are His children and who take their nature from the devil and are his children: no one who does not practice righteousness [who does not conform to God’s will in purpose, thought, and action] is of God; neither is anyone who does not love his brother (his fellow believer in Christ).” (AMPLIFIED BIBLE).

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  • PastorPhil67
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:27pm

    I am actually curious about this ‘battle’ over the use of public land. How can one group protest and be ‘offended’ and be justified while another seemingly has no right of expression themselves? The argument is that since the land is public then one’s expression is nullified since it isn’t ‘acceptable’ so a minority. Yet, this argument invalidates itself because in removing said expression what is being said is only a sampling of opinion is valid. In other words, if the land is for use by all taxpayers, then how come only a handful get to dictate what is or is not acceptable to be displayed? Every year we have to have this same silly discussion and quite frankly it has become tiresome. If you don’t approve of something, don’t support it, view it, or acknowledge it. No one says we all have to agree and no one says that opinions don’t matter. However, when the group that claims that their ‘rights’ are being infringed upon and then in turn infringe upon the rights of others, does that not make those very people hypocrites? I am curious as to how [so-called] atheists think that their opinion should count more than others. I am also wondering exactly how a display that – while maybe not acceptable to them personally – is not profane, pornographic, or hateful in anyway can be offensive. I drive down the streets and see all sorts of graffiti that is ACTUALLY offensive and hear no outcry about this. Also, there are so-called pieces of art dis

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  • christhefanatic
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:03pm

    Atheists, go ahead and try to prove that Pat Robertson is a bad man…a flake…etc….and all you have proven is that God can put a camel through the eye of a needle. Better question for you..and for all of us….Will God put you through the eye of a needle?

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  • ariel33
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:03pm

    Now I understand that real evil exists in this world, but for many of these very angry atheists who are using extreme measures (the law) to bring down Christianity really exists a lot of emotional pain all due to growing up in a abusive environment that was supposedly in the name of Jesus. Talk about creating little antichrists. I think some of can be saved and need genuine prayer and healing, not demonization, especially from those who call themselves true Christians.

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  • normalmom
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:55pm

    He has a good point, Christmas is about celebrating, giving and just being nice to each other why do they have such a problem with it. The grinch learned that it wasn’t about the toys or the food but about a united loving community. However too many people have forgotten what it is about and the kids show that attitude the most, at least those that throw a fit over not getting the toy they want.

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  • OniKaze
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:46pm

    As an agnostic, I must say that I do agree with Mr. Robinson (which is rare)…

    Christmas MAY have been a religious holiday, but it has roots in religions that existed prior to the invention of Christianity. So the symbols may be religious, but who cares what the original intent was.. In the end, Christmas has become a multi-religion holiday that is celebrated as a day that brings people together. THAT is whats important. Atheists need to pull their head out of their exhaust hatches and realize that SOME people need religion, and that will NEVER change no matter how they feel about it, or try to repress it.

    I may not buy into the Christian ideal of Christmas, but that doesn’t mean I can’t enjoy a holiday that brings happiness to others, and celebrate it for that fact… I must admit that the only thing I don’t like about Christmas is that it apparently takes American Christians 2 months to shop for it… Other than that, its great…

    And one thing I will never understand is why people have a problem with Nativity scenes… I may not buy into the whole Man-Made religion thing, but I don’t see a problem with those who do…. Why should my beliefs impact those I don’t know?? They shouldn’t… Just like the views of Atheists should not effect others…

    Let people believe what they want to believe, because in the end, NONE of us know the truth.. And only Ignorance and Arrogance will allow one to say otherwise.

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    • christhefanatic
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:38pm

      DEVONREYE@ You sound to me like what most of us would call a good person. It may not mean anything to you…but may God bless you . Incidentally, happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.

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    • christhefanatic
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:47pm

      I’m getting really careless here. Message meant in response to Deavonrey. But to everyone else, too.
      Happy Thanksgiving!

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:00pm

      Oh, I see what happened. I, sometimes, get mixed up, too. As for your blessing, . . . I don’t see how anything bad can come from an attitude of good faith. I appreciate it.

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  • christhefanatic
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:33pm

    I am a Christian. I am that not because I’m a “good” person… may not be that at all, but because I have come to believe that God is…and Christ is who he says he is. But my belief aside, even before belief, I would be the first to acknowledge that I want to believe…I want God to exist because I don’t want this world to be alone. I want Christ to be with me because I don’t want to be alone in this world.
    It is not why I believe…but that I want it to be so is certainly a factor.
    I have a theory. Atheists, their dis-belief aside, are people who, in their heart of hearts, even before their dis-belief, don’t want God to exist… don’t want Christ to return…because, of what they believe, are the awful implications.
    A fellow phoned Michael Medved with the claim that he could prove that God didn’t exist. The caller’s argument was, obviously, nonsense, and irrelevant…but Medved”s response was, “Well, first of all, why would you want to prove God does not exist????” …a question I, too, wonder about. What is in it for them? What is the profit to them to persuade people to believe that they are alone and doomed?

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:15pm

      I can’t speak for the guy who called the guy’s show. For some, however, it isn’t about “proving god doesn’t exist”. There is an argument that those who DO “believe in a god” cause a lot of harm in the world, either by denying rights or due to religions that actively work towards killing others [radical islam]. So, in that case, having fewer people “believing in a god” would benefit the world as a whole. It isn’t just about being against christians.

      Having said that, some DO behave more “militantly”. I have no problems with people having their holidays as they want. I wouldn’t deny them their nativity, since that is a big part [or main part] for their faith.

      But, I must speak against a few of your words:

      “Atheists, their dis-belief aside, are people who, in their heart of hearts, even before their dis-belief, don’t want God to exist… don’t want Christ to return…because, of what they believe, are the awful implications.”

      An atheist, by definition, cannot be the person you theorized above. A backsliden christain, sure. But a true atheist cannot be someone who JUST “doesn’t WANT god to exist” [the implication being that they "know he does"]. Same for “not wanting the christ figure to return”.

      These are religious doctrines without any credible evidence, so why would an atheist harbor such feelings? If they did, they couldn’t be “an atheist”.

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    • christhefanatic
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:45pm

      DEVONREYE@ Interesting response. Actually, I wouldn’t know if atheists actually believe God does or doesn’t exist. Who knows what goes on in someone’s heart. I am suggesting only that, belief aside….there are people who want God to exist…and there are people who do not want God to exist….and that is a factor in their belief or dis-belief.

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    • christhefanatic
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:06pm

      Also, it is certainly true that one could site examples of Christians throughout history who were and are not what one might call “good” people. I would not necessarily make such a claim about myself. Christians are people who belong to God. That is the only claim I would make.
      Even someone who knows nothing at all about Christianity can see the discrepancies in the way that it is portrayed. If being a Christian means being “good”, why did God not say,”Be good…I’ll save you. Be bad and I won’t.” Why did He give his Son? Why did His Son die? We have a New Testament.
      Christians may very well suck…just like anyone else. A problem for God to solve.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:12pm

      For me, I was one who wanted god to exist. I searched for “the personal relationship” for ~20 years. I did not find anything of value. Just a book written by men and other people telling me it was true. It was actually quite cold. Unfeeling. Rehersed even. Including those who were very much into Jesus, and expressed it with tears, crying, raising of hands, speaking in tongues. . . . I began to perceive it as an internal play [of sorts, and for lack of a better word]. I saw it happening. But it didn’t translate into reality for me. So, though I wanted it to be true [at that time], it was empty.

      Today, I’m good where I am at. I enjoy life the best I can and hope others do too.

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    • christhefanatic
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:43pm

      DEVONREYE@ ” Deavonreye” Sorry. Careless of me.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:54pm

      I didn’t notice anything of your posts that was careless. Just a nice conversation. :-)

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    • loneindividual
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:45pm

      DeavonReye

      An atheist, by definition, cannot be the person you theorized above. A backsliden christain, sure. But a true atheist cannot be someone who JUST “doesn’t WANT god to exist” [the implication being that they "know he does"]. Same for “not wanting the christ figure to return”.

      These are religious doctrines without any credible evidence, so why would an atheist harbor such feelings? If they did, they couldn’t be “an atheist”.

      _____________________________

      You are sheltered.

      I hear from most Atheists that God is an ***hole if he’s real. They have backup attitudes towards God.

      For people like you to be so ignorant….it’s shocking.

      Atheists tend to be angry no matter what. Especially those in and near my generation. I HAVE SEEN IT ALL.

      I’ve met Nihilistics FFS…some actually told me they want to destroy everything…I should have killed them right then and there but I wasn’t sure if they were just being Jokers or Kefka worshipers (pun intended).

      ps: FFIII is awesome. “LIFE, HOPE, DREAMS…Where did they come from & where are they going…These things…………………I AM GOING TO DESTROY!!!!! *Insert Kefka Laugh here* or here * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siuWZxDMGnk *

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:50pm

      Lone, . . . what . . . the hell are you talking about? If you have a refutation of my post, point out my statement and why you think it was wrong. Show me where I am “shockingly ignorant”.

      I have no clue what a kefka is, by the way.

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  • mrdoogle
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:32pm

    You can ditto that comment from Robertson to gays also. My workplace with is loaded with lesbians and they are screwed up miserable people also, weird, sneaky acting people. I have overheard many of their conversations regarding their rights and what anti-depressants they are using. Really sad…….

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  • ltb
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:32pm

    If you want to imagine what the world would be like in a world full of atheists, just study the former Soviet Union.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:58pm

      It was the political ideologies of communism that damaged the Soviet Union. Religious viewpoints were not the cause of communism.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:32pm

      Ok, then it was the destructive ideologies and practices of feudalism and the strong warrior culture associated with Knighthood, which was the actual impetus for the Crusades (and actually, there’s quite a bit of truth to that statement). :)

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:40pm

      People can claim all sorts of world views, . . . yet still behave primatively. The common denominator is, . . . “people”.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:00pm

      I know Devon, I was just doing a bit of counter demonstration of the principle. But yes, I agree. People are always what it boils down to.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 2:06pm

      And yes, I understood your point as a counter demonstration. :-)

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    • ltb
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:30pm

      @DeavonReye: I never said religious views caused communism. My point was that the Soviet society was completely secular and that being the case, one only needs to look at the Soviet Union to see what happens to a society when faith is outlawed. Oh and BTW, the reason communism failed, apart from the brutal suppression of free thought that resulted in rebellion, was because there were no incentives for Soviet workers to be productive. Why do you think the Soviets had the worst products in the world? Let me tell you why… no factory worker is going to put forth more effort than the least productive person in that factory when everyone is going to make the same wage whether he produces 1 widget a day or 100 widgets a day.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:39am

      Right. And the hardships and downfall were not a product of “atheism”. There were many churches in Soviet Russia. Red Square still has a huge church there [St. Basil's]. My point is . . . . people point to various failed and dangerous political systems the world has seen and say “this is the result of atheism”, when that isn’t the case.

      Thanks for the reply.

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    • ltb
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 2:19pm

      While I wasn’t saying that religious views caused communism, I am saying that atheism played a huge part in the demise of the Soviet Union and that it certainly contributed to the misery of the Soviet People. If you ask anyone who lived in Soviet Russia, they will tell you it was one of the rudest, most graceless societies in the world. Not only that, but the people lived in constant fear because they were at the mercy of a capricious politburo that was comprised of petty, vindictive men with a Napoleon Complex who didn’t think they had to answer to God.

      Furthermore, it doesn’t matter if there were many churches in Soviet Russia, the fact is that believers were persecuted for being disobedient to the State. You know how atheists like going around bullying Americans and demanding that Christian monuments be removed from public view? Well, in the Soviet Union, those type of merciless people ran the government and (big surprise), since they were all powerful, they were even more brutal about suppressing religion than the FFRF. Anyone who thinks that a secular America would be any better than the Soviet Union is deluding themselves, because the Soviet Union is a perfect representation of what a secular society looks like.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 2:58pm

      There have been “god-less” societies that HAVE been good. Not all cultures without a god have been like communistic nations. They just get press because they also just happened to be superpowers. That’s where the issue lies. Absolute power and how it subjugates its people. That’s why I’m glad to live in America where the government isn’t like that . . . . . . well, not yet, at least.

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    • ltb
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 3:19pm

      Name one Godless society that has been good. Also, what exactly does “good” mean when you don’t believe in absolute good and absolute evil? I’m sure Eva Braun thought Adolf Hitler was good, and likewise I’ll bet Adolf Hitler thought his henchmen were good. Were they not good and if you think they weren’t, why is your opinion of what’s good more valid than Hitler’s opinion of what’s good?

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    • ltb
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 3:25pm

      BTW, you have a very good point about absolute power. One thing I don’t think you realize though is that it’s a lot less likely people will abuse power if they believe in an omnipotent God, than if they believe they themselves are the ultimate authority on what is right and what is wrong.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:42am

      It would be a simple google search. Look up religions in various countries and I’m sure you will find your answer.

      And yes, people who believe in an omnipotent god certainly CAN be problematic, as was seen in the past. But I don’t work in absolutes. Not in the way apologists usually mean it.

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