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Should This Woman Lose Her Job for Flipping Off the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (And Then Posting a Pic of It)?
(Photo: Facebook via Gawker)
Two women have been placed on unpaid leave and could lose their jobs after a photo they took near the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery went viral on the Internet.
In the picture Lindsey Stone is seen either yelling or pretending to yell, while giving the middle finger near a sign that asks for “silence and respect.” Her co-worker reportedly took the photo.
According to CBS Boston the image sparked thousands of comments, and while Stone has since deleted the photo and her relevant tweets, she wrote this in response to the initial fury:
(Photo: Facebook via Gawker)
Stone works at a non-profit organization usually referred to as “LIFE,” short for “Living Independently Forever,” that helps adults with disabilities in the Cape Cod area.
Within the past 24 hours there appears to have been a huge resurgence in interest in Stone’s photo, and a Facebook page called “Fire Lindsey Stone” has gotten more than 5,000 “likes.”
Hundreds of angry commenters have also posted on LIFE’s Facebook page, asking why they are continuing to employ such disrespectful individuals.
LIFE responded today on their Facebook page:
(Photo: Facebook)
Reactions are mixed.
One woman commented on LIFE’s page that she doubts Stone and her friend truly “meant no disrespect” in flipping off the Tomb of the Unknowns. Since they appear to have no courtesy for the grief of those who have lost a loved one in the armed forces, she continued, perhaps they need to be taught a far less painful lesson, but a lesson nonetheless.
“I respectfully request you allow them to experience the grief of sudden unemployment,” she wrote, before complimenting the photos of the facility.
Another commenter said they don’t want their disabled family member in the care of people who could flaunt such a horrible lack of judgement.
Still others, though, are saying that the commenters are “overreacting,” and Gawker asks whether Stone should really have her “life ruined” because of a “stupid photo.”
What do you think?
(H/T: Gawker)
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txannie
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:33pmWhat is it they say….”Actions speak louder than words…” I say this woman has demonstrated a deplorable lack of any basic care or respect for her fellow human beings. Her picture should be posted on billboards letting everyone know the lack of respect and care she has for the people she purportly takes care of. Let them choose if they want to hire her any longer. I for one wouldn’t hire her to shovel the s#*t out of my stables.
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Live_Free_orDie
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:40pmWow…Wow…little wonder our country is in the toilet.
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loriann12
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:44pmAs a veteran, I served my country to give her the right to do what she feels. It’s like burning the flag to me, if some idiot wants to do it, fine, but face the consequences. If I were her employer, I’d fire her, but that should be all that happens. This is still a free country. So far. Wait until someone does something like that to a building with Obama written on it and see where it goes. WE have an Obama School of Excellence going up in Dallas.
Locked
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:46pmI disagree. I don’t think this woman should be scapegoated and harassed. Is she a moron? Yes. Does that mean we should have free reign to make her life a living hell? No. The only motivation to do so is revenge, and it’s un-Christian and un-American. Her consequence should be getting fired (if her employer deems her to be a liability). Let her explain her firing on her next job interview… but to effectively brand her? I thought we were finished with Scarlet Letters centuries ago.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:55pmIt is creatures like this that give human beings a bad name. She is dispicable. Look folks, the lefty commie progs know that the Mils are conservative. They know this. Only a person taught to appeal to higher callings go into the military-ie. religious/conservative individuals. They see the military folks as their mortal enemy.
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000degrees
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:59pm“They’re paying for it, you eat it” ….to quote Gunny Hartman……bounce her ass to the street. Better yet, let her make amends for her “misjudgement”. What is she prepared to do????
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biohazard23
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:00pmIf she were a conservative doing this at some liberal shrine to abortion (say, the local Planned Parenthood killing factory), the left would have their knickers in a twist over it. If she were doing this to protest something like ObamaCare, the left would be freaking out and clutching their pearls in disbelief and painting the entire right of being looney extremists who (insert talking point here). But this one moron is not supposed to be indicative of the left and their selfish, immature attitude? Oh please….
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shimauma42
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:01pm@Locked I’d say these young ladies pasted the scarlett letter on themselves. We didn’t force it on them.
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rickc34
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:02pmStupid is as stupid does.
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biohazard23
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:10pmThis female is a slinky. Where’s the stairs?
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moreoilplease
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:12pmI like freedom of speech, even speech I find offensive. This is not a case of limiting speech. She has and had every right to display her disdain for something many of us hold sacred. Whether she yelled in a park or posted on the internet. However, posting this on Facebook does not shield her from her employer’s right to find her actions unbecoming and not worthy of continued employment.
This is a cautionary tail. Actions have consequences.
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ApokTheGreat
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:12pmThere will be the eventual comparison with this woman and the Stone Cold Creamery lady who was fired for her tweet.
Here are the differences:
1- This photo was taken while Ms. Stone was at work, with a co-worker while she was in the care of clients
The Stone Cold Creamery lady was at home, in her off time and was not work related at all.
2- This photo is absolutely offensive to those of us that served. It does go too far. The middle finger makes it way over the top for just an irony humor photo.
The SCC worker showed no disrespect to others but she did show really poor judgement.
3- The SCC lady tried to make her posts private on her own before anyone saw them..This trashbag of a woman and her friend were forced to take down the pics and then lied in a fake apology.
Should she lose her job…YES as this offense was work related. Should she feel the wrath of her peers….YES. She made them look bad. Criminal charges?? NO. No law against being a trashbag of a human being.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:12pmLoriann12,
Please put your avatar back to how you had it originally. Show off that beautiful conservatism. Respectfully submitted.
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one.dakine.howlie
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:13pmOur soldiers fought for the freedom to do this. Even if that freedom is hate and disdain for their sacrifice. This woman is an idiot and completely immature. She shouldn’t be given the responsibility to watch over other human beings. And what does she mean she “meant no disrespect”? What is her definition of disrespect??? Everything about what she did is disrespectful. If she really regretted what she did she should have just said, “Yes what I did was completely disrespectful and I regret doing what I did. I hope everyone I have offended will forgive me and allow me to make recompense for my behavior.” Making excuses though and basically telling everyone that they’re overreacting just makes it worse.
If I was her employer I would fire her. That should be the extent of it though. The employer has every right to fire her as she had every right to do what she did. The employer also has every right to not fire her. That’s the freedoms we enjoy in this country and we should fight to keep it that way even if it means allowing people to be idiots.
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Locked
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:13pm@Shimauma
The OP said “Her picture should be posted on billboards letting everyone know the lack of respect and care she has for the people she purportly takes care of.” Yes, I would say that’s “forcing it upon them.”
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turkey13
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:14pmMaybe Obama will send Seal Team 6 after her in respect of our Armed Forces.
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Bobj_1960
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:15pmThis happened on a company sponsored trip. This company is about helping DISABLED people live independently. Is this a good behavioral example to set for their clients. How about the disrespect paid to the DISABLED veterans. Actions have consequences, rights come with responsibilities. Fire the douchebag (self -confessed).
@KC_ChiefsFan: we live in dark times my friend, dark times.
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booger71
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:17pmShe called it right, she and her friend are douche bags, and probably Obamy voters.
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Longgonegator
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:21pmJesus, I am at 60 (trust me they go by fast) and I have just watched our country raise its children with no respect for anything or anyone. Its is sad times and this thing (certainly not a lady) is the epitome of many of our offspring
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ksmike
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:25pm@Lorrainn12- An Obama School of Excellence? Now, there is an oxymoron if I ever saw one!
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Jim in Houston
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:27pmI suspect that was an Obama phone and she proudly voted for the socialist b@stard.
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stevetherealist
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:28pmmil-dot….Only a person taught to appeal to higher callings go into the military-ie. religious/conservative individuals
any idea how many military men are there because it was that or jail? wow are you on clueless ground.
I’m actually surprised though how many have got it right on this story. Although the same people telling me Free speech on several other occasions have jumped the fence here. She can disrespect anyone she likes..this is America. Its what allows the blaze group to sit here and disrespect our president daily. Take away her rights and yours would be next.
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Cavallo
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:34pmDon’t Tweet, don’t use Facebook. There is no telling when something stupid you post might be utilized to rob you of your livelihood, friends, family, or reputation. You can go without the cute cat pics, and monotonous philosophy quotes taken out of context.
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zman173rd
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:36pmLet her post what she wants and she can wear it as her “Badge of Honor”. They died then and now so she can have that “freedom” . She has the freedom to make a fool of herself. Our country and our constitution provides for everyone that has moral and ethical values. We’ve lost so much of that, that we will NEVER get it back. Our laws are used against us now. We grow our children in government schools and educate them to not believe in our history but to believe that they can and will drive our country towards a DEMOCRACY designed around Progresivism, to Statism, to Socialism, to Communisim, to Marxism. Really, what do you expect? In the “old days of common sense” she’d wear a sign around her neck at the gate to Arlington telling all what a despicable person she is. But now the laws defend her. It’s too late.
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HKS
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:37pmTo answer the original question, SHOULD THIS WOMAN LOSE HER JOB FOR FLIPPING OFF THE TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER (AND THEN POSTING A PIC OF IT)? no, she should be deported. enough said.
“Remember Benghazi”
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Zipit
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:42pmYou are correct CAVALLO! “Stupid is as stupid does” and this picture of MARYBETHELIZABETH proves it!
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00100111
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:43pmSteveTheIdiot, YOUR president disrespects himself on a daily basis. He doesn’t need our help to do it, though we do like pointing it out for the world to see. As far as this child, she has the right to do what she did and to post it. Her employer has the right to fire her. Unfortunately, she’ll soon be on unemployment and on the govt teet, and it’ll be on OUR bill. Not YOUR bill of course, you don’t work. You’re a taker.
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Cavallo
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:47pm@HKS, “no, she should be deported. enough said.”
Deported to where? Why? Who knows what you might be able to be deported for next. You showed disrespect to the President of the United States, and by extension those men who died fighting under his divine command, you will now be exiled! … you have to be careful with that kind of stuff because they can turn stuff around like the Patriot Act and use it against you and yours.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:50pmThese two did this while on an official LIFE trip to these national shrines. I’d say their employer has every right to give them the boot for embarrassing the company. Simple as that.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:02pmYes.
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stevetherealist
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:06pmo100111…Actually I’m a employer and I assure you I pay more in taxes than you probably make. But nice try anyway. you guys must be getting used to being wrong.
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IndyGuy
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:07pm‘Should This Woman Lose Her Job for Flipping Off the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (And Then Posting a Pic of It)?’……….Absolutely……..Think about it,employees represent your company…I’d drop her like a hot potato…
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:10pmHey RJJ…
couldn’t agree more… in fact, unless it’s a “have sex with me or else” situation, i support any employer, firing any employee, for whatever reason said employee deems appropriate…. People who are awesome at their job, and help their employee make money, earn grants/ respect/ donations, etc. rarely, if ever, get crap-canned…
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SolitudeBliss
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:11pmAs a veteran and from a family of veterans I will say that my family and I served to guarantee the right to FREE speech, not inoffensive speech but FREE speech. Even offensive, disgusting, reprehensible speech like this woman is doing is protected under the 1st amendment. Should her employer fire her? Up to her employer if they want someone like this representing the organization. But please remember – it’s not called Nice Speech , it’s FREE speech and even morons have that right.
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DadRocked
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:21pmLoriAnn12 – “As a veteran, I served my country to give her the right to do what she feels. It’s like burning the flag to me, if some idiot wants to do it, fine, but face the consequences.”
Personally, it is a bunch of B.S. She should be slapped around for being stupid.
Like LoriAnn12, being a ‘nam vet myself, she can say what she wants to. This is still America.
As much as I oppose her expression, go for it.
Those on the other side WILL abuse and push it to the limit of that right. We are not weak, we just don’t care what losers think nor do.
They look at it as we are weak – we just know that it is a strength.
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Wolf
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:21pmAgain, what business is it of an employer to make decisions based on FB? As a ’68 vet, I fought for her right to denigrate anyone she wants any time she wants, and it’s really no one’s business but hers. The company sure as hell has no right to fire her over her antics, most especially when taken off a place so moronic as FB.
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aproudinfidel
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:25pmSomeone should have slapped the cr*ap out of them for that. What a couple of pigs.
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1947
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:27pmThe New Face of America. Send her to Gaza, they would love to HAVE HER……
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crueltiming
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:36pmlet me just take a wild guess who this self-described douchebag voted for….
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proantisocialist
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:36pmShe should be forced to quietly stand out front with a big picture of what she is doing and let the public make the call….
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Keatonc333
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:43pm“Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There’s no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we’re the imagination of ourselves.” REMEMBER THAT!
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4XGrace
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:53pmFreedom of expression is what gives her the right to do and say what she did. Some people spit on the idea of patriotism, others live by it. There has to be a balance of tolerance otherwise you devolve into Fascism. Right now in the US there is a war between Right Wing and Left Wing Fascists. It will escalate into a civil war soon if people don’t wake up and depolarize their stands.
However, the most polarizing issue in America today is the Constitution. No one today knows what being a Christian really is all about so they are not able to relate to it. Nowadays all people want is their stuff and more of it. In the past people entered medical professions because of an ideal that drove them to serve mankind. Now they enter them to serve their bellies. Service was what people believed in and humility is what kept their hearts in check. Now there are these charlatans that preach “name it and claim it prosperity” doctrine that is blasphemous and anti-Christ. You can’t understand the Constitution without having Christ in you. You will not be able to see it through the eyes of those who crafted it; you will only see it with eyes that greedy for what they want for themselves. That’s why so many people today think it’s outdated; it doesn’t grant them the right to be lazy do-nothings.
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Wayner
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:04pmAs in everything these days.. Conservatives will come out against the two. liberals will say they did no wrong… It’s a fact of life in this age.
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texashuntre
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:06pm@ loriann12 The school will pour out nothing but breeding gov’t lap dog leaching suckers. Shame on Dallas. Guess the libs are getting into the big cities more than I thought. Who ever thought of that name needs to be taken to the willow field.
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The_Jerk
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:12pmShould not be fired. We need to stop this thin skinned, no one allowed to be upset, wussification.
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Zipit
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:30pmKeaton! “Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There’s no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we’re the imagination of ourselves.” REMEMBER THAT!
A little out of character, but awesome!
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Marms
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:34pmGood lord people. She wasn’t gesturing to the graves. The sign says silence and respect, she was just doing the opposite. She wasnt disrespecting anyone but herself. I swear you all just look for stupid reasons to get upset! Lets focus on the important things.
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Lucy Larue
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:35pm@LOCKED,
Shut up!
What gibberish you spout!
SCARLET LETTER?!
you are as bad as the A@:hole woman in this article!
Your moral relativism is disgusting!
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Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:44pmFire her. Obama is probably looking for more anti-American idiots just like her to help with the destruction of the USA.
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Marci
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:53pmAs disrespectful as it is—it is what she says, her being a “douchebag” and probably no ill intent to soldiers. If we buy into the nonsense that first, the organization that employs her should have to speak for her actions (they shouldn’t, she is not a public figure nor is the org), or that she should be fired over it, we are joining the ranks of the ignorant who love to silence any speech that they deem offensive. As we have come to know, everything that is disagreeable to the left is deemed offensive and worth passing a law or making it the p.c. norm to shout you down or intimidate you into shutting up. Let’s NOT join the ranks of these people, PLEASE.
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hayesstephen
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:58pmRespect for others? She has no respect for herself, or her friend. She referred to herself and her friend as douche bags, and really who can argue with them there. They like most liberals never learned that actions has consequences. You did it, you posted it and now you get to live the consequence. Dolts.
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sparky239
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:05pmI really like the Billboard idea and I hope those two morons lose their jobs and also the community forces them out of their area or force them to sell their house ….make them so uncomfortable they have to move…and never forgive them ….
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txbigfoot
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:05pmShe has the right to do what she wants. Her employer has the right to terminate her.
I say the employer did the right thing. Dont piss off the Vets or other people for your stupid gratification.
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Secret Squirrel
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:15pm.
She should be fired for being a moron.
If it weren’t for the American soldier,
she would have been raped and murdered by our captors.
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Lt_Scrounge
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:37pmSteve the answer to your question is not nearly as many as you think. Since the military requires a waiver for anyone that has a felony conviction, there are far fewer than there used to be. They are still allowed to be in Obamao’s civilian defense corps, in fact according to the GIVE act that authorizes the formation of the civilian defense corps, they are the targeted recruits. Since religious individuals are discouraged from joining the civilian defense corps by its anti religious bias, that should tell you something about what they’re wanting to create for use on US soil. Amoral, gang mentality, prone to both violence and criminality. Sounds like just the psychological profile for the people we should be handing fully automatic weapons on US soil. Sort of like “Fast and Furious” for the US citizenry.
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Bad Kitty
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:46pm3 words:
Freedom of Speech
I don’t agree with it, and I would fire her if 1st Amendment didn’t exist, But its law, and she will keep her job
So we have to deal with it :(
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Marine25
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:13pm@Locked…very well stated.
@mil-dot…there are plenty in the service of their country who are not conservative, or religious. There are plenty of idiots who foolishly think otherwise.
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undrprsr
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:40pmMoney say’s she voted for Odumbo!
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ToddH
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:40pmNormally I do not support the masses getting a person fired over some unpopular thing he or she said or did during their personal free time, but I will certainly bend with this one.
How dumb do you have to be to post a photo of yourself flipping off the gravesite of a national cemetery where our military veterans are laid? That takes the cake for stupid, and anyone who was unfortunate enough to make the mistake of hiring this woman must be just now realizing what a mistake that was. Free speech guarantees she won’t get arrested. It does not guarantee she won’t lose her job, and just about anyone would be embarrassed to be her employer right now.
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mercenary4freedom
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:51pmSTEVEREALIST, you’re an idiot, you don’t know what you’re talking about. There was a time during Vietnam & shorly thereafter that some guys would be given an option from the judge (if they got into trouble with the law) that they either serve jailtime of go into the military. Thiose days are long gone & have been for some time.
I’d like to have you say what you just said to a couple of Marines/service members today. They’d probably, well, I can see you getting your guts stomped out.
You are just a simpleton that never had the balls to serve their country.
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Big Lubinski
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:52pmThe Bitch is probably caring for those from the “Greatest Generation”, who gave her the freedom to do stupid, asinine, things, criminal, no, fired, absolutely!
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Wolfgang the Gray
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:53pmLoriann12 – I agree with you. I was also a veteran (4th generation) who served to defend the Constitution & our liberty so this is this lady’s free speech and I respect her right to be an idiot. Personally, if war comes to this country, I say she is on her own for her disrespect, but that is just me.
Now to something serious, an Obama School of Excellence in Dallas? Has the left taken over the Lone Star state? What is next, a giant statue of Jane Fonda as “Friend of the Viet Nam Veterans”? If things deteriorate & war breaks out, at least we know what the first building to be razed might well be.
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Puddle Duck
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:34pmPeople are fired for poor choices and serious character flaws on a daily basis….this tasteless moron deserves to be fired because she did this on the companies time and not her own, period.
As for the supposed and very lame excuse….I have this to say their is a time and place for most things , in this case (at the National Memorial Military Cemetary) there will never be an appropriate time for this kind of behavior and that particular place. She should be fined for her actions…this is a national burial fround…not some broken down police precinct garage in Detroit.
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1947
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:37pmAmerica, this lady didn’t do anything wrong she is only showing you how Obama has maintained a CHANGE IN THE MIND OF AMERICANS…….She’s only doing what he would like to do…..
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robfletch
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:44pmOur country is in the toilet, because she gets fired for expressing an opinion no matter how deplorable that it may be. I have strong opinions, I’m against abortion, same sex marriage, welfare fraud etc… Should I lose my job? Are the people who agree to the political correctness ideology the only ones who should keep their job? This woman’s behavior is disgusting, however the only requirement that should be looked at is if she can do her job well, not her personal beliefs.
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decendentof56
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:58pmThis is why they are called Ma**holes.
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jcascio
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:00pmShe can post whatever she pleases to TRY and make herself look not guilty of the gesture which is repulsive in the first place in a cemetary. Respect, she does not know the meaning of the word. Yes, if I were her employer, she would be looking for a job or standing in the unemployment line. So sad that we have a group of people who would even think up something like this regarding the Tomb of the Unknown Solider who died to give this pathetic excuse of a woman the RIGHT to show such disdane for our dead military.
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Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:02pmAstonishing how you all seem to ignore freedoms when you disagree with how someone expresses that freedom. I suspect the hypocrites here calling for her to be fired or worse are the same ones that were screaming about the first amendment in defense of Dan Cathy while they wolfed down chick-fil-a. Total hypocrites.
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Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:06pmzman173rd: You said, “Our country and our constitution provides for everyone that has moral and ethical values.” I have news for you, genius. There is no moral or ethical test for the constitution. All Americans are protected by it, not just the ones that behave according to your morality. You seem to have a real problem with America and the legal protections our citizens are entitled to. If you hate my country so much, why don’t you hope on the secession and get the F out!
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ToddH
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:07pmRobfletch makes a good point.
If we keep calling for people’s jobs every time they say or do something we find obnoxious and offensive we push them further to the left where you can bet they will be hollering for our blood louder than the next guy anytime we too express an opinion where the majority does not agree.
I am mostly curious about the context of this: mainly, to the extent she thought this would be viewed only by her friends and not put on display for the world, and if it’s true she has a bunch of similar photos showing her blatantly breaking the rules of various signs as jokes, then perhaps we should lighten up a little and not take this to be the blatant disrespect for our veterans the photo appears to be. She needs to learn to utter a MUCH more humble apology, but we also shouldn’t choke anyone who expresses a bad opinion out of their job. To keep doing that sets a poor precedent of non-stop retaliation back and forth between the political parties which effectively silences the very freedoms of speech these veterans fought for – for ALL of us.
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bulletsinthegun
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:14pmA firing squad is to kind for this IDIOT
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Falsegods
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:18pmVoyeurism. Get a life, FB is for clowns looking for attention.
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FesteAinoriba
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:25pmWhat they did has nothing to do with their job. We must not allow political correctness to be a condition of employment. What this woman did was offensive. But do we really want to let employers terminate employees for opinions they hold or express in public? Political speech MUST be protected at all cost – otherwise, you’ll find that despots and tyrants are all to willing to destroy your lives if you are critical of the state’s sacred cows.
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Locked
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:42pm@Lucy
“What gibberish you spout!
SCARLET LETTER?!
you are as bad as the A@:hole woman in this article!
Your moral relativism is disgusting!”
And your lack of Christian faith is unsurprising. Your hatred is unbecoming. And your ineptitude on what constitutes “moral relativism” is amazing.
Hmm. Non-Christian, angry, and ignorant. You a liberal troll, by any chance?
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Girard1974
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:21pm@Locked, who wrote, “Let her explain her firing on her next job interview… but to effectively brand her? I thought we were finished with Scarlet Letters centuries ago.”
I agree that she should be fired, but the only person(s) who “branded” this woman is the woman herself. After all, she’s the one who agreed to have her picture taken while engaging in such disrespectful acts toward The Tomb of the Unknowns. This particular area at Arlington is held in even higher esteem than the resting place of President John F. Kennedy.
I don’t thing there’s a stupider person in the United States of America. Hire her? To do what, exactly? She ranks right up there with those dolts who flipped off the portraits of George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan during a visit to the White House last year.
We’re a nation of morons – these two women should be President/Vice President of the National Association of Morons (NAM) and perhaps run for president in 2016. Considering the last election, they might just win.
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banjarmon
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:43amSHAME on Lindsey Stone… shame!!!!
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Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 1:03amdecendentof56: You do recall that Mitt Romney is one of those Massholes, right? Or did you forget about him already like most proud Americans?
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apollo18
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 4:11amLet’s hear from the widows & orphans of those interred at Arlington. Let them decide. Maybe Jane Fonda will hire her.
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DeniseJ
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 4:34amThanks, Lori Ann 12 for giving me the first laugh since the election – “Obama School of Excellence” School uniform MUST include a dunce cap!!! Curriculum: Voter Fraud 101, Intro to Demagoguery, Advanced Obfuscation for Campaigning, Intermediate Hiding Your Past…..sounds like a gold mine for jokes. I could imagine posting a picture of me thumbing my nose at THAT building!!
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EODGhost
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 5:14amWell said.
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Chi_Chi
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:08amWhat is wrong with idiots like this woman? Read fresh political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
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Mil-Dot
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:32amNewsflash to Stevetherealist-the military does not take the dregs of society anymore. Look into smart guy. The days of them accepting criminal miscreants ended decades ago. You don’t know what you are talking about you prog. What are you like 70 or something?
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Mil-Dot
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:39amAnd to all you goons that want to argue about the demographics of the military, yeah, there are a few progs and atheists running around, sure, thousands of them. But, the majority, the vast majority of them are from conservative families. That is a fact. Progs don’t want to fight for their freedoms. They are too busy doing drugs and eating pizza. They don’t have the balls to do it. Yeah, I saw some progs in there. They were mostly the young freshly brainwashed punks. But yeah, they are there.
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Locked
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:09am@Girard
“but the only person(s) who “branded” this woman is the woman herself.”
Reread some of my other responses. The OP said that her picture should be put up publicly to keep her from employment in the future. Yes, that’s branding. Saying “the woman branded herself” is like saying adulteresses placed Scarlet Letters on their own clothing themselves.
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Pacapapa
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:35amShe said she was just challenging authority. Fine challenge all you want, that doesn’t mean you don’t suffer the repercussions of your idiotic and childish actions. Like John Cougar sang, “I fight authority, authority always wins” (not John Mellencamp, his music sucked).
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jcldwl
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:38amto answer the headline question. No she should not lose her job. It’s a first amendment right called freedom of speech. Do I agree with her? Not in the least and her action sickens me. But the unknown soldiers in that tomb died so she could be thoughtless and uncaring with her freedom of speech. I’m sure they never expected this but I never expected I would serve a country that was combating communism in the 80′s that would in turn vote to become communist 30 years later. She better appreciate her freedom while she still has it.
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DrunkGOP_Hack
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:17amStupid is as stupid does!
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TrueGrit
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:30amThe new face of America.
Obama voters, no doubt.
No respect.
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kadster01
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:34amLeave comedy to the professionals, girl. You ain’t got it.
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jakartaman
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:10amYES – Stupidity has consequences!
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hgwatson
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:46amThat is something a 10 year old would do!
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jenk99
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:12amThis woman has every right to act like a jerk and take a picture of it. We have the right in this country to say what we want. But we don’t have the right to expect people not to be offended. If she worked for me, I would fire her. Why? Because she acted like a big jerk for the world to see. After the world got to see her idiocy, the company she worked for is suffering the consequences of her actions. While it may seem stupid to others, it is the reality. By her being a jerk and posting it online, it opened the door for all the complaints to her company. That is just how it is. That was HER choice to do. She needs to experience the consequences of her actions. It would be one thing if she just took the photo and didn’t post it online. When she made her actions public, she then brought others into her little “joke” who had nothing to do with it. The reality is, it is offensive to some people. She did it and made it public. So suffer the consequences Ms. Stone. Maybe next time you will think before doing something stupid.
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naughtycal
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:17amIsn’t funny that all these liberal who claim flip the bird at government and claim to be these anti-establishment radicals are the same ones that vote over and over for bigger more intrusive government politicians……..TALK ABOUT SAYING ONE THING AND DOING ANOTHER.
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RobbieTLHughie
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:20amlol and the Obama death threat woman can keep her job. You people are as predictable as the sunset.
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charliehunter
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:21amYes, she should lose her job, period. She is a loud mouth skank that got caught, thats what she is sorry for.
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RobbieTLHughie
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:21amThe stupidity on this site grows exponentially daily, this woman, I would bet a thousand dollars, doesn’t give a crap about politics, she’s just an idiot. But you all carried on about the Obama threat woman like she didn’t do anything wrong. This person is just stupid but she is a danger to humanity, someday I hope you people see how sick you are.
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AvengerK
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:42amIt’s called DECORUM and SOLEMNITY. There are places you can yuck it up and places where you should keep your mouth shut and show some respect. Clearly this idiot of a woman doesn’t understand either concept and usually I would say whatever she does in her private life..so long as it doesn’t affect her professional life….isn’t grounds to fire her..but in this instance she should be shown the same respect she showed our honored fallen..NONE.
Fire the biatch’s arse and teach her what society has refused to teach her.
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AvengerK
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:47amActually no STEVIEREALIE…she can’t do as she pleases without consequences for her actions. There are appropriate places for her idiocy..and inappropriate places for her idiocy. There are places that demand decorum and solemnity and memorials to our honored fallen are one of these places.
She now needs to suffer the consequences for her “douchebaggery” much like you will within the next four years for voting for Obama. Consequences STEVIEREALIE…I know that’s an alien concept to the morally bankrupt and relativist leftist like you…but they still take place.
If her actions affect her standing in her workplace..whether done as a private citizen or a representative of her workplace…then her employer has a right to examine her actions and determine if his business has been adversely affected. Consequences STEVIE..just like voting for Obama will manfest for you.
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AvengerK
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:07amummmm LOCKED? In your zeal to be the word policeman and stuffed shirt of the Blaze you missed something not too minor in the article…she was on the company’s dime and time when she did this.
If her employer is now facing repurcussions to his business because of this idiot of a woman’s behaviour he has every right to terminate her position in his enterprise.
Now go back to the article..scrutinize it in your Rainman-esque idiom and come back and tell me I’m right..there’s a good obsessive/compulsive.
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Mulder1
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:27amFire her and deport her along with Jane Fonda.
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Locked
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:41am@Avengerk
“If her employer is now facing repurcussions to his business because of this idiot of a woman’s behaviour he has every right to terminate her position in his enterprise. ”
Er… I said that her employer has every right to fire her. I think you misread something of mine if you came to any other decision.
Glad you agree with me, even if you didn’t realize it! :-)
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publicenemy2u
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:30pmI feel the same towards the ingrates that are signing seccesionist petitions. Soon a list will be published of others who have publicly used bad judgement, what thier employers do is up to them.
Wish the whole bunch would self deport! Is there a future Timothy Mc Veigh on the list of signers?
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WalkSoft
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:35pmAgreed the unknown, paid the ultimate price of his actions, so she could prove how freely it made an A**H*** of it’s self so the Sensible could all reflect and make it KNOWN!
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 1:00pmGotta disagree with your first post here Locked. She does have a right to be an idiot, clearly, but the right to freedom of speech extends in all directions. Meaning, those around her have every right to call her any ol’ name they want right to her face, if she’s in public. If she doesn’t like freedom of speech that extends in all directions, she’s free to stop being a (according to her) douchebag.
As to being fired or not, that’s between her and her employer. I spend my service in the military defending the right of even idiots like this to have full unfettered access to their rights, and I’m certainly not going to go back on my principles just because I may not like what a person has to say.
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WalkSoft
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 1:41pmAgreed the unknown, paid the ultimate price of his actions, so she could prove how freely it made an AH of it’s self so the Sensible could all reflect and make it KNOWN!
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Locked
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 2:03pm@Jefferson
“She does have a right to be an idiot, clearly, but the right to freedom of speech extends in all directions. Meaning, those around her have every right to call her any ol’ name they want right to her face, if she’s in public.”
I agree that others have the right to go out of their way to harass her… I’ll review my posts, but I don’t think I ever said they didn’t. But once that happens, how are they better than she is? If someone would come down on her for hiding behind free speech and acting like a self-described douchebag, why should they suddenly think it’s ok to do the exact same thing? It’s just revenge at that point; anti-Christian and anti-American, IMO.
“As to being fired or not, that’s between her and her employer.”
100% agree. I’ve said as much time and again. Avengerk just has a chip on his shoulder when it comes to my posts :-)
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 2:23pm“any idea how many military men are there because it was that or jail? wow are you on clueless ground.”
You low life POS. You better thank God that you are an anonymous douche bag. The serve or go to jail crap stopped back in the early 80′s you punk @ss little girl. You dare to question the patriotism of better men than yourself. You are a disgrace to your mother and a complete waste of perfectly good oxygen. Go back to HuffPo you candy@ss little b!tch.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 3:28pm@Locked
I think that, as normal, we’re pretty much in agreement. This is the line from your first post I was referencing.
” I don’t think this woman should be scapegoated and harassed. Is she a moron? Yes. Does that mean we should have free reign to make her life a living hell? No”
I’m just saying that if you goof in the public arena, then you gotta take the lumps when people start dissing ya’. That’s all.
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Locked
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:45pm@Jeffrrson
“I’m just saying that if you goof in the public arena, then you gotta take the lumps when people start dissing ya’. That’s all.”
Ah, I see.In that case, i agree with you. Yes, if you publicly post something idiotic, you can receive lumps; I suppose I crossed my Christian and libertarian leanings in my response. Yes, it’s fine thar she receives retribution for her remarks… but Christian-wise, we should keep fropm hounding her, as revenge is inherently sinful.
Hope that cleared it up, and thanks for giving me the chance to clarify :-)
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ICEDRAGON
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:36pmThis is the attitude that liberals portray. Are these women also GODLESS?
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ChildOfTheKing
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:54pmNo, she should not lose her job, BUT, I would not have anything to do with her. She is a disgraceful person and very disrespectful. SIMPLY SHAMEFUL! I wonder how she would feel if I spit on the grave of someone she loved so dearly? I bet she would kick my **** if she could, but most COWARDS DO WHAT SHE DID. PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS ARE COWARDS! If they are pro-abortion, they are too cowardly to take resposibility for the decision they made for getting pregnant. They would rather slaughter the unborn then to face their responsibilities.They are irresponsible cowards. She will probably sue her employer instead of realizing how thoughtless and self-serving she was.
WAIT UNTIL THEY FACE GOD FOR HOW THEY HAVE TREATED OTHERS, including abortion, hatred, and any evil., including this immature episode……so childish and nasty.
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Bohump
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 6:09pmShe should have been fired, ….. for acting like Democrat in Public !
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Libertarian
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 1:44amSimple answer. A business owner should be able to fire whoever they want, for any reason they want. That is economic freedom.
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Woody4USA
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:33pmDBs, this is just the first of many times you will find your attitude has a direct conection to your employment status.
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Puddle Duck
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:36pmCharacter matters, actions have consequences…..I would fire this POS and her immature comrade immediately.
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RLTW
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:58pmI vote for E-tool in pick mode as a way to balance the disrespect of this obvious liberal w hore.
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gena t
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 1:54amThis woman apparently thought what she was doing was “cool” or she would not have had it posted on FB. And the fact that she states it is one of a series of photos showing her disregard for authority, indicates she might not be the best person to have working with disabled people, trying to help them live independently. So, if her employer decides that they do not think her employment is in their best interests or the best interests of those they had been hired to work with, that is their decision to make. Both the photo and her remarks about the photo indicate she does not seem to have good judgement, which might make her somewhat unqualified to work with disabled people. As to freedom of speech, when what you do, say, or post proudly indicates you are a person of poor character, and you work in a field where people of poor character probably should not work, your employer is surely entitled to add you to Obama’s long list of unemployed.
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longknifed
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 3:50amEver heard of free speech? More stuff like this needs to be done to prove that the military industrial complex is not our overlords. Maybe then these pointless wars can cease.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:34amLONGKNIFED, Of course we’ve heard of Freedom Of Speech. But by your simpleton’s attitude toward how to conduct one’s self on an official company trip, I guess sexual harassment should also be free speech in your mind. Or, maybe you could dislodge your head from your fourth point of contact, scroll back up and actually READ the whole article next time.
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AvengerK
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:54am“Pointless” LONGNITWIT? So you tell me champ…what would you have done after your “freedom fighters” brought down the twin towers?
Before you bleat an answer let me remind you….a prisoner captured by those “pointless” warriors was interrogated and led us eventually to the man who instigated the attack.
You’re an idiot.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 1:22pmYeah. Disregarding authority is doing it face to face with the cops or flipping off a live “leader”, etc. Standing in front of signs and taking pictures is little more than wannabe rebellion.
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JIMC5499
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:33pmIf she’s fired, she can sue for a violation of her freedom of speech and probably win. What is it with trying to have people fired from their job it they do something stupid on their own time? I could see it if she was on company time or in a company uniform, but, not for this. I do agree with the rifle **** stroke to the jaw though.
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counselor9
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:47pmNormally, I would not expect this stupid behavior to result in the loss of her job. However, it appears she was at a work function when she did this. She was on a trip to DC sponsored by her employer. If this behavior is contrary to what the agency would want from its employees while they are on a work-related excursion, I have no problem with termination.
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carnivour
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:47pmIt was on a company trip; their time, their reputation.
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kc_chiefsfan
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:48pmI agree there is a possibility of a freedom of speech issue here, but I reread the statement from her employer. It appears that the photo was taken on a “field trip” of sorts that was attended by “40 residents and eight staff” so she was not on her own time. I think that the organization has just cause to fire her and be safe from prosecution.
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TDrury
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:53pmSo if you owned a company and found out your CEO was a member of the KKK or MANBLA, you wouldn’t fire them?
If the police had thrown her in jail for the post, it would have violated her right to free speech. If her employer chooses to fire her for the act, then they are exercising their right not to employee, as she put it, a “douchbag,” but her freedom of speech is intact because her employer is under no Constitutional obligation to employ her.
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JohnnyRaiden
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:54pmShe more than likely can’t sue. Virtually all jobs now when your hired make you sign what amounts to a good behavior contract that says if you do something that reflects badly on the company, we can fire you. She’s not being denied her right to free speech, but using free speech doesn’t mean you don’t have to face the consequences for that speech.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:59pmBut JimC, the progs get people fired all the time for speaking their views-Don Imus is a prime example. So, it’s funny how you guys squeal like pigs when what you do to others comes over into your neck of the woods.
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Locked
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:00pm“she can sue for a violation of her freedom of speech and probably win”
How do you figure? Freedom of speech protects you from the government, not getting fired by an employer. She wasn’t arrested or harassed by government officials. If she’s a liability to her employer, they are well within their rights to terminate her employment.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequences of that speech.
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jodikyman
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:00pmNope she cant sue, she was on company time, on the clock, on a company trip, representing the company she can be fired Period. If she had done it on her own time nope she could not. She also had a fellow employee take the picture so she used more work stuff.
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:02pmShe was on a company trip. Therefore, her actions directly reflect to her employer. As a former Human Resource executive, I would terminate her employment. This demonstrates a severe lack of judgement and failure represent the employer’s interests.
As a vet, a **** stroke from M-16 works for me.
On a serious note, I don’t know how anyone could do that at the Tomb of the Unknown. It is the most solemn place I have ever visited.
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TheBigMike
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:06pmUnder what law would she sue for a, “violation of her freedom of speech and probably win?” Please don’t say the First Amendment, please don’t.
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moreoilplease
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:19pmSpeech was not limited and it they can still fire her even if she wasn’t on company time. She posted this in public and the company can exercise their right to end their employment. Freedom of speech does not shield a person from adverse consequences from said speech.
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00100111
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:44pmNo she couldn’t. Her employer can fire her for any reason they want, including this.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:55pmJIMC5499, Did you miss part of the article above. These two were on a company trip working. Their employer paid for them to go on this trip, and this is how they pay them back, then post it all for everybody to see.
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Plutos_Pal
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:56pmThere is no freedom of speech issue here. The First Amendment only applies to government suppression of speech. Private companies or organizations have the right to punish employees if their speech or actions reflect poorly on the company.
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rswarre1954
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:11pmI guess it would also depend on your job in correlation to the photo. If you’re a firefighter probably not a good idea to post a pic of yourself setting a house fire. As for what this young women did. What if she was on her off time but worked for the VA? I guess I get her intent but as a vet I am offended by the pic. She could have found another way to “buck authority”.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:21pmEveryone that thinks “Facebook” and “Twitter” are places for private expression are either young or dumb or most likely both….
I don’t care if she was on the company dime or not… If it’s something that would prevent you from being hired in the first place, it’s something you can be fired for. I can’t count how many prospective employees i’ve avoided hiring because my “researcher” found pics of them doing “keg-stands” or “bong-hits” or “the bird” posted on-line…. & guess what?… i drink and burn!… i just don’t ever post images of it!
If that’s the way you roll… get used to this expression: “you want fries with that?”
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AvengerK
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:03amEASTINFECTION….you’re not the only employer that I know of that has a “researcher” who checks out prospective employee’s twitter and facebook accounts to determine the character of the applicant.
These idiots want to be ‘special” and have the whole world share in their lives..but don’t want the consequences of their behaviour to matter in the real world. Much like the idiot of a woman in this story…she’s used to no consequences for her behaviour and now expects that policy to continue..well the real world slapped her hard in the face. I don’t expect her to learn from the experience but the fact that she’s facing termination doesn’t garner an ounce of sympathy from me. The idiot doesnt’ realise..her paycheck depends on the amount of business her employer generates. If her employer loses business because of her, she becomes a bigger liability to him.
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NEH_88er
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:33pmAre you kidding me!!! “meant no disrespect” She is standing next to a sign that reads “Arlington National Cemetery” and is directing her middle finger in the direction of said cemetery. How else can that possibly be taken but an outright disrespect to the men and women who gave their lives for our country. Fire them NOW!!! Yes they have the freedom to do that but so does the organization that does not want this sort of pathetic human being working for them.
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longknifed
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:04pmWe wouldn’t have this problem if this government kept manufacturing wars.
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Puddle Duck
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:44pmLet’s hope you are the first to be drafted…..what a POS you are.
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longknifed
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 3:09amI meant if it DIDN’T manufacture wars….you pos.
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Larry E
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:33pmFiring is the least that could be done, and this should follow her around for a good long while as well. A little pain and suffering for a loser like this might well be a truly educational experience.
As Tsunami says maybe a vertical buttstroke from an M1 rifle would go a ways in altering her views of respect, with no disrespect intended of course.
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searcher619
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:33pmHmmm… Since what you post on the internet can and will either help you get that job to be turned down for it, I would say yes this can potentially ruin her for a while. The fact that she didn’t think this would upset people tells me she have very poor judgement and not someone I would want working for me. Anyone who employs her has a sneak peek of how negatively she may impact their company. I’m betting the non-profit is taking this time to have their lawyers find a way of letting her go w/o her being able to sue them.
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shimauma42
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:00pmIf she was stupid enough to post this picture with her real name on the internet(and since the internet is forever) she’s deserving of however people choose to treat her because of that behavior for as long as people remember what she did.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:05pmWhile I can understand the entertainment value of these so called “social networking sights”, I would never give up my privacy by participating in such nonsense. It is not worth it.
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Pork_Anvil
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:32pmWho cares?
Seriously, if people are so worried about needless spending, why are we paying people to stand in front of an empty tomb? Come on!
fixer
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:45pmyou’re an idiot if you don’t know anything about honor and respect
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The-Monk
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:46pmTick tock, tick tock…. EtchySketchy
Your 5 pm deadline is approaching….
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fedupv2
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:50pmFor one the tomb is not empty hence the name. If you believe that the men and women who gave you the right to post a hateful post like that then therer are countries that you can move to; Egypt, Syria, Sudan.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:50pm@fixer,
Porky is a paid troll called EtchASketch. He’ll be gone by about 4:45 pm.
Pay no attention to it. : )
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VRW Conspirator
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:01pmPorkies…you moron…the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier houses several remains of unidentified soldiers….6 or 8 of them I believe….I even remember about 10 years ago when they finally figured one of them out…a Native American soldier whose bones were exhumed and returned to his tribe for burial.
It is NOT simply a monument…it is an ACTUAL grave sight…guarded 24/7/365 by a special detachment of Marines, so that these unidentified and all those unidentified and unfound members of our military will NEVER be alone….in life or in death…
You complete waste of space…seriously…I know you are a pathetic troll with no life who gets off on trying to piss people off…a complete waste of the life God granted you and should quickly revoke…but that is up to Him…but you are lucky as are those women that I or those like me were not present at the time of their picture or your comments to my face…I would gladly arrange the meeting between you and God….
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Pork_Anvil
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:06pm@VRW Conspirator, that’s a good point., where were the guards at the time of this photo? I thought we were paying them to stand guard?
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JeffersonsPen
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:17pmYou My friend are a sack of shi&^%. Leave it to you to see cutting soilders………why so Obama can give you a new phone. Fire the bit$&*^ !. If she had been screaming I hope it would have been quickly stiffled by the **** of the guards rifle!………..So she wasn’t.
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Pork_Anvil
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:39pm@JeffersonsPen, actually, Bush gave me the phone! Remember when he extended that program? You know, the one that Ronnie Raygun started? The one that Obama is also carrying on?
You tea clown!
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NukeHaze
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:48pmThe guards are there as the best perpetual salute that our country can give to those who have paid the ultimate price for our freedom and under the direction of both politicians who hate them and those who have served and understand their sacrifice. Under this admin and Clinton, it is the former of the two.
Being called to serve this post is a well respected privelege and is subject to strenuous background and clearance checks. What little the military actually gets for monuments or parks dedicated to it is truly small as most others are from retired equipment. Would you then take away the Vietnam memorial and the Pearl Harbor one as well? I believe if you were trying to cut pork we would replace the overpaid government employees with all military details since military is the least paid of all government jobs.
Pork you have no clue what respect is and your existence justifies, as does this woman’s, the thinking that every able bodied person should be forced to pay tax in the form of service to your country in the form of basic training to educate you two in the school of discipline. Then again we veterans and active service would never trust either with an M4 much less a hand grenade.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:55pmHey Porky Sketchy……. it’s 4:55 pm
That’s it…. time to go home. LMAO
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+fred+flintstone+5+oclock++work+whistle&mid=9E4697A57DDA87600BA99E4697A57DDA87600BA9&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1
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DLV
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:41pmMonk how do you know who porky is?
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Jadedfate
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:32pmWhile I find her display vulgar and stupid and wrong, we still have freedom of speech and expression. She shouldn’t be fired for this, unless she was representing the company while there or wearing something that depicts it.
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aragona
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:39pmI believe she was representing the company. It said she was in Washington on a trip attended by 40 residents and 8 staff. She deserves to be fired. Completely.
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Locked
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:44pmI disagree with your statement that she shouldn’t be fired for this. If her actions outside of the workplace create a conflict within the workplace (as hers obviously have), I would say the company is well within their rights to fire her. Her behavior has an impact upon their business practice, and no company should be forced to keep an employee like that around.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence.
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Arminianism
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:54pmShe does have freedom of speech and she should. Also, the company has the right to hire and fire people as they see fit. If I see people that work for me that have a complete lack of character and judgement as this lady does, she gets fired immediately and I have that right as a business owner..
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TDrury
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:00pmCompanies should be able to fire and hire as they choose. I completely support her right to freedom of expression and I completely support the company’s right to fire this “douchebag” (her words; not mine).
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showmespfld
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:58pmActually, many companies and places of business DO retain the right to fire their employees based upon things posted on social networking sites. People have been fired from their jobs because of photos of them with friends that “might send the wrong message” if viewed by people who could possibly associate that with the business. I have a family member who recently had to go through their photos online in preparation for entering a teaching program- can’t run the risk of not being hired or being rejected because someone doesn’t like what they see. She was there apparently with her business and as such was representing them. This is not only a vulgar and disrespectful display of gross immaturity, it is not any behavior that reflects well upon LIFE. She should be relieved of the burden of her job and not considered re-hireable.
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Jenny Lind
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:04pmBefore the internet and utube etc, we did stupid stuff when we were young and dumb and it stayed with us only. Later in life it was a story of ” I can’t believe I was that stupid”. We didn’t get fired, we didn’t get national attention for our stupidness, thank God. Today your stupidty is instantly a problem for you. Is it better or worse? She needs to grow up a bit, and after being shamed, she probably will think a little harder before she puts her stupidness out into the world. The people she works with should have a pretty good handle on whether she is a decent person most of the time and they should have the last word. ( Wouldn’t hurt for her to stand up and apologize either, both of them)
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Maximus_Delta
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:32pmNo she should not lose her job, she should be brought out in the street and shot.
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Godfather.1
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:47pmI see. Like many other Blazers, you are all for free speech until it is speech you don’t like.
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Locked
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:48pmYou’re horrible. You advocate murdering a woman because you find her disrespectful? Yeesh.
I think she’s rude and should likely lose her job, but calling for her head is something I expect out of a jihadist, not an American.
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kc_chiefsfan
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:51pmPlease take your offensive comments back over to the LameStreamNBC forums where they belong.
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Cavallo
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:02pm.. yeah.. Lets bill her family for the bullet, just like the Chinese do, right?
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Maximus_Delta
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:27pmok take her out in the street and praise her for her disrespecting the dead that gave her the ability to have free speech, is that better?? This country is turning into bunch of limp wristed *******..
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Landon410
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:30pmshe is an idiot thats for sure…. “i wasn’t trying to be offensive” really?!?! seriously? come on, we aren’t Obama voters that will believe anything
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iampraying4u
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:31amAmen
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Freedom6
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:30pmThese two individuals should be require to undergo training with the Honor Guard for one month or so.
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grayling646
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:39pmWhat has the Honor Guard done to deserve that?
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Puddle Duck
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:15pmShip the pair of them off to Kabul for a month….let them see first hand how serious and dangerous the job is.
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Legion5
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:30pmI am sick and tired of people like this running their mouths and calling it freedom of speech. I fought for and lost to many friends to be silent and allow trash like this to disrespect my brothers who sacrificed all so she could be a worthless waste of life. Fire them both and show no mercy to them.
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gyro
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:37pmthis is corect
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Cavallo
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:12pm“I am sick and tired of people like this running their mouths and calling it freedom of speech.”
How is running your mouth /not/ freedom of speech? Or is it only freedom of speech if it is respectful of people and places that you deem appropriate? Same thing with “Hate Speech” laws. You might have missed her intent in that she was mocking different signs, like pretending to smoke in front of a no smoking sign, or standing on the grass in front of a “keep off the grass” sign. This is a perfect lesson about the society we have decided we should live in. Be very mindful of what you say, when you say it, and who might be around. Never say anything that can identify you or make any humor outside of people you know very very well.
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Bill Wallace
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:29pmLaws of Physics. Actions have consequences.
And I doubt this lady’s life is ruined because she made a poor choice. In her posting, she admits she flouts authority in general…so this is only one example of her stupidity.
Maybe unemployment will give her perspective. Maybe she has a budding career with Code Pink.
But to feel bad for her having to take responsibility is even dumber than what she did.
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Rover_Bump
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:28pmHell YES, fire her treasonous ****.
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NHwinter
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:34pmYes, they both should be fired and then sent to Israel to stand in the streets when the sirens go off. Maybe then they would appreciate the lives that have been lost so their sorry butts could have that obnoxious picture of freedom of speech. That freedom does have consequence sometimes. Hope they are still laughing at their lack of respect for authority. Stupid, immature, spoiled brats that have never had to suffer through the hardships of war. Maybe this younger generation needs to experience what Obama is going to do to this country. They might wake up one day and regret all their stupid rebellion.
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Jadedfate
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:35pmOh, we don’t have freedom of speech anymore? Sorry, must have missed that…
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JohnnyRaiden
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:01pmFreedom of speech, not consequence Jade. Both of them will likely be fired since they were on a company trip, thus making the company look bad, which should kick in terms of employment violations. They should be fired ,but that’s it. No further retribution or calls to brand/whatever.
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horsehockey
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:09pmTerminate their a$$es with extreme prejudice.
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maverick4harlot
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:13pmShe has freedom of speech just not freedom from consequences of idiotic acts on company time. She works for a Company, and was working when the picture was taken, that ” helps adults with disabilities”. It is VERY LIKELY that some of these adults with disabilities are veterans or might be veterans in the future. This affects the company and their present and future buisness. FIRE THEM. No freedom of speech lawsuit can win. Example. If I worked for a church and berated members of the church for believing in GOD and Jesus and called them delusional , my freedom of speech no longer applies. Again FIRE THEM.
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NukeHaze
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:22pmJaded… Freedom of speech does not equate with freedom from consequences.
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Cavallo
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:27pmShe doesn’t have freedom of speech from the government either.
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amcneil2644
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:28pmSaw this and thought this reader said it well on another website. This punishment to me seems fitting to the situation.
What would seem appropriate is an un-paid leave of absence requiring
Ms. Stone attend, from a respectful distance the funerals of 100 of
our service men and women. Let her travel at her own expense the
breadth of this Nation so that she might bear witness to the grief of
mothers, fathers, wives, husbands and children whose tears are shed as
a sacrifice so that Ms. Stone can make her “jokes”. After that and
perhaps 1000 volunteer hours attending to the needs of children whose
parents can only be found in these gardens of stone, perhaps Lindsey
will be more fully capable of fulfilling LIFE’s charter, to “encourage
each resident’s aspirations, strengths and abilities”.
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Danielle Ohliger
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:38pmVery nicely said AMCNEIL2644! I like this idea — what place did you see this comment on?
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NHwinter
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:40pmThat would be a perfect punishment.
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Tom in NC
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:15pmI agree and when she is not attending a funeral she should be helping to maintain the grounds at Arlington.
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amcneil2644
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:39pmSo the comment from a fellow chicksontheright.com member who served our country and is a disabled vet. Thought his words spoke volumes.
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mercenary4freedom
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:18pmWell said AMCNIEL, perhaps she would also see things differently spending a week or two being assigned as a civilain observer to graves registration in Afghanistan. Having to tag & bag the unfortunate troops that have been KIA serving with honor for her right to flip off authority.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:27pmThe nut job has a right to free speech,she also is clearly inciting violence,which was her intent to show ‘the whole world is watching’ BS. She needed a smack down that’s for damn sure.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:34pmThat is my exact thought, she has the right to prove her feelings toward our great nation and the brave who have given and continue to give all for our freedoms. I find her actions reprehensible to the core, yet even idiots have the right to demonstrate their idiocy to the world.
As for her job, unless it can be proven she has broken some ethical, moral or technical detail and standards of her company, then legally the companies hands are tied.
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Jadedfate
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:37pmWait..you got inciting violence from that? I think it’s pretty disgusting, but not sure where you’re getting that one. The First Amendment still exists, right?
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:49pmJADEFATE Like I said the nut job has a first amendment right to free speech but that won’t protect her from someone who lost a friend in the war,actions do still have consequences. As to her getting fired you hear of people getting fired daily for far less offensive actions then what that pig did.Government can’t restrict speech but a private company can and they do routinely if the employee violates some standard of the company they can be fired,unless it’s a union shop then it’s impossible to fire them.
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:00pmJADEDFATE . . .you’ll have to forgive Mr Slayer. He tends to spout off without thinking. Like claiming the girl was inciting violence. Clearly indefensible. That’s why he didn’t defend it when you asked him.
The girl is ignorant and immature. Not a criminal. Free speech can be ugly.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:09pmSup Wango,
Having a nice day? : )
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:12pmPANTLOAD Clearly the girl was inciting violence and just because you can’t see that doesn’t mean it isn’t so. Her actions could have resulted in her getting her @ss kicked severely and I did respond to jade you fool.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:16pmHey Wango….
I seem to remember you posting this statement this morning……
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/water-tower-christmas-cross-to-be-replaced-with-holiday-tree-in-il-town-after-atheists-threaten-suit/
Water Tower Christmas Cross to Be Replaced With ‘Holiday Tree’ in IL Town After Atheists Threaten Suit
November 20, 2012 at 9:15am
In reply to GhostOfJefferson.
It’s easy – Exorcise it however you please, just not in schools and not on government property. You can exercise your right to free speech however you want, but you can’t yell fire in a crowded theater. Those limits exist to protect the rights of all, not just some. Accept it or accept me putting up an homage to Mohammad on the sidewalk in front of your house.
Care to reply????? : )
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:25pmDUH MONK . . . Don’t try to make websense of it. It speaks for itself. You got a question, ask it. Otherwise perform your hall monitor act with someone who cares.
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:27pmPRONGOILER . . . 2+2=5 . . . .I’ll say it again, 2+2=5 . . .see, I said it twice. That makes it true.
Prong, up the dose. The parasites are making you look like an Alzheimer’s patient.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:30pmOoohhhhhhh Waaaaaangoooooooo….
I’mmmmmm waaaaaaiting.
Inquiring minds want to know. LOL
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:39pmDon’t blame me. Ask the moderator.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:00pmYeah Wango,
I have a question…..
Why did you say 2 completely different things? Which one is true for you?
After all…. they are YOUR words, RIGHT?
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Plutos_Pal
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:07pmThe concept of free speech as protected by the First Amendment of our Constitution, does not protect this woman from being fired. The First Amendment only protects against government suppression of speech, not private companies.
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RedHarley
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:58pmPantload – “The girl is ignorant and immature”.
Exactly, and ignorance and being immature are grounds for dismissal at any job where there is an expectation that employees will not exhibit those failings.
She deserves to be fired.
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drphil69
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:27pm“OBVIOUSLY….”
I hope her life is now a living HELL. DISRESPECT INTENDED, YOU DOUSHEBAG!
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War_Vet
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:27pmReal nice, lady. There’s your 15 minutes .. enjoy.
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Danielle Ohliger
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:27pmThat is what is wrong today, we have kept our voices silent about swearing on television, sagging pants, having our daughter, sisters and sometimes mothers dress like street walkers and/or dancing like strippers, and letting this type of behavior continue all in the attitude that it is okay. It is not okay for my children to grow up in this type of society – sometimes “old fashioned” attitudes and morals are much better for all of us!
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nickatnoon61
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:57pmGood point Gloria! Most of the CONditioned cannon fodder are so wrong, and anyone who actually knows what is going on (anyone with 3 or more functioning brain cells) and tells them they are fighting, and dying for their own SLAVERY will be lynched! Democracy= MOB RULE, or MORON RULE! Now go pay for 3 houses to buy 1,(mortgage) and keep telling me you are not a SLAVE! SO MANY IDIOTS SO LITTLE TIME!
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Cavallo
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:26pmYou have no freedom. That should be the painful lesson to this woman… and the rest of us. Keep your trap shut, live in fear of those around you and of those that claim to rule you. There are no jokes, there is no such thing as humor.
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Bill Wallace
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:32pm@Cavallo…
You clearly do not grasp “free speech” and the effects. For example, free speech applies to GOVERNMENT. It does not apply to private institutions. Private companies can restrict speech as a condition of your job.
So while you may say whatever dumbass thing you want…you do not have a right to a job. And in your case, an education.
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fdraiden
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:34pmThere is a time and place for everything, you dumb ass!
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fdraiden
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:37pmAnd lets blame those wascally republicans, eh?
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Cavallo
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:58pmActually Bill, Free Speech is free speech. If we are going to be splitting hairs here. The first amendment to the United States Constitution concerns free speech, which laughingly is supposed to protect against the restriction of free speech by Government, which it does not.
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ResistSocialism
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:24pmYes
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P8riot
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:23pmAs long as the employee was ‘at will’ then the employer can fire her for good reason, or no reason (but just not for a bad reason, e.g. discrimination, etc). Thus, her boss has the right to fire her over this picture or for wearing a baseball hat to work… doesn’t matter.
As for “should” she be fired… I would. If she disrespects “authority” this much – I doubt she would be a very good employee then.
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DZ-015
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:27pmVirginia, where this despicable behavior occurred, is an “at will” employment state. Had she worked there, she would have no recourse against her employer for firing her. But this “lady” worked in the People’s Commonwealth of Massachusetts, where employment law could be more complicated. Once you get past federal laws involving employment issues such as discrimination, minimum wage, child labor, and worker safety, you enter the area of individual state laws,, and even local ordinances which might come into play. No matter what happens, she may think twice before pulling a stunt like this again.
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Mandors
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:23pmFire them. They make your organization look awful.
Gawker asks whether Stone should really have her “life ruined” because of a “stupid photo.”
The answer is yes.
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chfields62
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:28pmAgreed the bi$% should be fired for being so disrepectful…..
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amcneil2644
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:36pmI have to agree that she is an idiot ( and I probably wouldn’t be so harsh if this was done on her own stupid vacation because I do believe in free speech) however, she decided to do this disrespectful act on company business with company personnel and probably a company phone while attending to disabled clients of the company. I am sure that those are all in violation of policy and she probably should have referred to her HR manual before she decided to act like an moron.
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rollthebones
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:12amamcneil2644,
Great comment. You said everything I was thinking.
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:23pmIn a country that re-elected a Communist and Radical Muslim to the presidency; that allows the president to murder four Americans and cover it up; that allows the socialism of America, That routinely has taken Liberties and Freedom of Americans – Really – this woman is the least of our worries – let her blow off some steam – You want to fire someone go straight to the top !
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Bohump
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:02pmI can’t smell her over the Net, …but she Look’s, .. and Act’s like a DEMOCRAT !
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stevetherealist
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:47amhow is the weather in the alternate universe today? You really should lay off the B.S. pipe for awhile. Its has severely clouded your judgement which I’m guessing is not to good to begin with.
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TSUNAMI_22
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:21pmI say she should have received a swift and sharp M1 Garand **** to the jaw.
….and I OBVIOUSLY meant no disrespect to her.
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Sickandtiredofextremists
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:26pmAnd I couldn’t agree with you more!
“Just being the douch-bags that we are” isn’t an excuse to disrespect the true heroes of our country, unlike this douch-bag (her words, not mine) of a woman!
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Cavallo
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:30pmWhy not just cut to the chase and just shoot her, and bill her family for the bullet. That’s where we are headed anyway.
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grimmster
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:32pmActually Tsunami_22, the bullets come out the other end;p It’s people like this, and encinom, that truelly make me wish the left would start their war……..
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southernORcobra
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:33pmTo hell with the **** give the pig the bayonet.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:47pmHi TSUNAMI_22,
Lookie who showed up on The Blaze….. LOL
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:02pmYeah, take that, woman.
(Good job guys. Wow. You’re dangerous. Better watch out for her father though. I know some guys who wouldn’t take kindly to guys like you beating on his daughter, no matter what she did.)
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tdunn626
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:04pmYeah, all this thought provoking verbiage has made me load my pants. Oh, Oh, I see I’m not alone.
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