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Van Jones’ Solution for the Fiscal Cliff? ‘Take The Money’ from Defense Industry & Big Oil

Nov. 20, 2012 10:05am Benny Johnson

Van Jones Solution For The Fiscal Cliff? Lets Take The Money From Halliburton, KBR & The Big Oil Companies

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Van Jones is trying hard to craft the progressive agenda for the next four years and his influence is growing after his humiliating departure from his role as the Obama administration’s Green Jobs czar. Jones went on NPR and talked with host Michel Martin about what demands progressives should be making on the president.

Jones directly attacked the fiscal cliff in the interview, insisting there worse things than the “so called cliff” and called the issue “alarmism.” The comments echo AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka’s remarks earlier last week that there is “no fiscal cliff” and that this has all been a “manufactured crisis.”

“We have time to come up with creative solutions here that do make sure that the wealthy begin to pay America back,” Jones insisted.

Jones diagnosed the countries financial woes, saying that the country went broke because of “the Bush tax cuts and the Bush wars.” He then offered a solution: “If we want to fix the economy, the first thing we got to do is repeal the Bush tax cuts and pull back our military expenditures to Clinton level expenditures.”

He went on to say that there are other options besides the cliff to fix the country’s fiscal woes.

“Progressives have to stand up,” he said. “Social Security is solvent, Medicare can be fixed with minor tweaks. Why are we going to devastate those programs?”

Jones continued: “Let’s take the money from Halliburton, and KBR and the big oil companies.”

The re-distributive talk and the denial of the fiscal cliff left the NPR host in a state of questioning disbelief.

Hear the audio from the November 12th NPR interview below:

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jimbo_from_suwanee
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:51am
He forgot to say take the 401Ks to those who were rich enough to save money, and go to a 70% tax rate on all making over 60,000. After all it is only fair.

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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:11am
  There has been word for a number of years now to do that very same thing… But with everybody’s accounts.
  
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- texashuntre
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:12am
  VAN JONES YOU are a NUCKING IDIOT !
  
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- CoGod
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:10pm
  You joke, but this is already underway. There is about $ 5 T in IRA’s and 401Ks that Obama is quietly working on to turn into social security style annuities. I am considering cashing all of mine out and paying the 45% tax this year as I would rather a smaller lump sum than another annuity with no value backing it. The press including the BLAZE has been ignoring this as the legislation has been in draft for months.
  
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- NHwinter
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:26pm
  Just more ideas from Van Jones and the Obama administration to quicken to complete destruction of America. These people should be given free one way airline tickets to Iran.
  
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- mikelivi
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:20pm
  The communists dont even hide anymore, it used to be a bad thing in America to be a commy ****. I guess it isnt anymore. I’d LOVE to run into this guy in a dark alley, no more teeth to smile is all I can say
  
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- skippy6
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 4:48pm
  Too bad we can’t trade on the inside like the politicians!!!!
  
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- rickc34
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:48pm
  Van has his own tickle me elmo (is Van gay to)
  
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- oldhorses
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 5:16pm
  COGOD please don’t do that, that is a very, very, VERY stupid idea and you will be hurting your family and your future if you do that.
  
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UBETHECHANGE
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:51am
Van Jones the commie is not to bright is he? Oil industry already pays billions and billions of dollars in taxes and “Bush wars” and Obama continued wars is borrowed money from China! What an idiot he is!

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- TEIN
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:26pm
  Has nothing to do with taxes….Big Gov wants to own Big Oil, so that the funds would go to Big Gov instead of investor’s…..Currently Big Gov makes more money off from the sale of gallon of gas than Big Oil, but that is not enough…Plus Big Gov is all about resource control….easier to control the people and to make things “fair”…
  
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- longknifed
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:39pm
  Remember when Beck made a montage of this clown as if he actually had influence? this is just more deception because “big oil and big defense” are funders of both parties. Too bad people actually fall for this drivel —–Republican GOOD, Democrat BAD—-ME HUNGRY…FOOD GOES IN THIS WAY.
  
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Ted Zeppelin
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:48am
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What Jones wants is what every Democrats wants – to take money from somone else without actually working for it. Teaching comes to mind as America’s best paying part time occupation with never any accountability.

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- goahead.makemyday
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:08am
  What has Van Jones done that is productive? Did you know that Van is Dutch meaning “of” when used in names, and Jones is an Celtic Welsh derived name meaning offspring of Jon? Van Jones literally means of the offspring of Jon. No family with real heritage attached to their last names would mix Dutch and Celtic names. I say all this to lead up to this. Van Jones is as fake and deceitful as his last name.
  
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- woodrowsux
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:22am
  Somebody should ask Van to cough up his CNN salary and give it to the Indians – ” give them the wealth”!!
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:57am
  That what the Fed. Government wants……it’s time to close Washington as they are 16,000,000,000,000 in debt. seize the assets of all those who put us in debt. Establish individual state government with a program that only collect federal taxes to support national defnse.
  
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DadRocked
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:48am
Hugo Chavez Takes Over American Oil Companies May 1, 2007
Chavez takes over Venezuela’s last private oil fields May 02, 2007
Hugo Chavez says he’d vote for Obama Sep 30, 2012

Enough Said…

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- barber2
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:54am
  DAD: They Lefties have a thing about oil / energy and about “redistribution” ( used to be known as “stealing” in the old moral code days ! ) The Lefties have sooo many new “definitions” for words. Like “transparency ” and ” talking points.”
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:06am
  Hugo Chavez confiscates private property 05/17/2010
  Chavez has spoken of his ambition to set up what he calls a Bank of the South 02MAY2007
  President Hugo Chavez Threatens to Take Over Spanish Bank 27JAN2011
  Chávez Takes a Big Chance With Bank Takeover – WSJ.com 04AUG2008
  Venezuelan Government Takes Over Four Banks and Arrests 22NOV2009
  Venezuelan Government Takes over Eighth Largest Bank 16JUN2010
  Chavez Emptying Bank of England Vault 18AUG2011
  Chavez to Nationalize Gold Industry, Withdraw Gold Reserves from U.S. 18AUG2011
  
  Quite a few similarities – I would say…
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:10am
  barber2 –
  Alinsky on Means and Ends
  Here I want to highlight the key elements of his approach – as outlined in Rules.
  1) One’s concern with the ethics of means and ends varies inversely with one’s personal interest in the issue, and one’s distance from the scene of conflict
  2) The judgment of the ethics of means is dependent upon the political position of those sitting in judgment
  3) In war, the end justifies almost any means
  4) The judgment of the ethics of means must be made in the context of the times in which the action occurred and not from any other chronological vantage point
  5) Concern with ethics increases with the number of means available
  6) The less important the end, the more one engage in ethical evaluations about means
  7) Success or failure is a mighty determinant of ethics
  8) The morality of a means depends upon whether the means is being employed at a time of imminent defeat or imminent victory
  9) Any effective means is automatically judged by the opposition as being unethical
  10) You do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments
  
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- IndyGuy
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:57am
  Hugo Obama or Barack Chavez…either way…
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:16pm
  Indy – So many similarities.
  
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- booger71
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 12:17pm
  The Saudi Arabian goat herders were the first to perfect the nationalization of oil fields and oil production facilities they did not build.
  
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Zipit
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:45am
Deal there Jonsey….. Get rid of all of the Bush era tax cuts (all of them) and take not only the military, but ALL FEDERAL SPENDING back to Clinton era levels! That’ll fix things in a hurry!!! But you wouldn’t agree to that now would ya?

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Cabo King
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:43am
One S.F.N.

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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:41am
Doesn’t matter that there isn’t a shred of mathematical basis to what he is proposing. Doesn’t even make a ripple in the larger issue. Won’t matter though, because a majority of Americans are soooo uninformed and/or dumb as posts that anything resembling a “that feels good and it will probably work and I don’t have to pay for it” argument will sail by with roaring approval.

Y’all need to just accept that you live in a country of oligarchs populated by moronic sheep. When you accept that, the rest of this junk all starts to make sense.

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IndyGuy
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:35am
Got another post taken down by P.C.Blaze…way to go wusses…

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- IndyGuy
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:38am
  What next??? “Van Jones Joins The Blaze”…
  
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lel2007
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:35am
Van Jones is a communist. Only an idiot, or a treasonous b’tard would call him into the White House for consultation.

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- barber2
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:48am
  Or a fellow Communist. Can you believe this ? Guess it’s that old Chicago Bill Ayers unrepentant Weatherman connection for all of these guys.
  
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- jrcess
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:48am
  I agree!!
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:51am
  “Only an idiot, or a treasonous b’tard” or another communist.
  
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IndyGuy
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:33am
I would like to see that smile with no teeth…

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- IndyGuy
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:07am
  Soooo…Why isn’t Jones calling for G.E. to pay ANY taxes???Hmmmm???
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:33am
Why did that commie ever get out of jail, and for that matter, how many people figure he will be working with the White House again all too soon?

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- Capitolalb
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:23pm
  never in jail !
  
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RightUnite
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:32am
I say, let’s all just take a flying leap over that cliff… See how that hope and change works for all those that don’t have skin in the game. They think it’s tough now?? Wait till we go over that cliff.

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- CoGod
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 1:25pm
  The fiscal cliff is much better than a bad compromise. I say, over we go. Glad I also have Mexican citizenship. I wonder if the Mexicans will build a fence to keep those from the US out? Hmmmm
  
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Cavallo
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:31am
Let’s consider the logic of Van Jones’ quip about fixing the problem with increasing taxes on oil companies, and reducing payments to defense contractors. First off, neither will generate enough “savings” to even make a dent in the deficit. Secondly increasing taxes on oil companies causes oil companies to increase the price of oil, the price of oil causes the increase in the price of energy and other items made from petroleum. Increases in prices causes a fall in sales of petroleum products, less revenue, less economic activity, less tax revenue, crashed economy. The caveat I will make here is that defense spending DOES need to drop. However, this can be accomplished by pulling back unneeded garrisons, and ending expensive and futile operations. Simply gutting expenditures for hardware will cause the already beleaguered defense industry to lay off even more employees, causing an economic hardship harming the economy. Managing a draw down in military expenditures requires a lot more finesse than Van Lenin Jones’ hatred of all things business.

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Zombee
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:31am
Jones may have changed his radical pose, but he’s still a pinko commie subversive in a suit and a smile . Its stands to reason why the Democrat Socialist party embraces him. Democrats are so similar in their treasonous goals to the objectives of the Communist Party ( the over-throw of our Constitution by any means) – Party head Avro Kusta Halberg, (AKA-Gus Hall), when asked by the national press as to why the Communists declined to run candidates for President/VP for the first time in decades – answered with this chilling and sobering statement: ” Since the goals of the Democratic party are now so progressive, we feel that for us to field a candidate would be redundant”. [“progressive" is a Marxist ‘buzzword’ indicating being in accordance and conformity with Communist objectives and ideology])

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kvan
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:30am
What a friggin dufus! What the hell does he mean “pay America back”!!!
pay America back for all of the jobs they created?
pay America back for all the wealth they created for America?
pay America back for all the millions and millions in taxes they have already paid?
pay America back for the example of what innovation and hard work can accomplish?

pay America back for what?

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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:17am
  kvan – “pay America back for all the millions and millions in taxes they have already paid?”
  
  You misspelled Billions
  
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ricckky
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:30am
Why is this COMMIE IDIOT still around? I thought the LIAR banned him—HEE, HEE–OH–I KNOW –THE LIAR HAS MORE FLEXIBILITY NOW–TO ACCELERATE THE DOWN FALL OF AMERICA!!

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RightUnite
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:30am
Honest to God. Is this freak truly this stupid?? I would like to see him try that.

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perry1980
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:28am
Steal from the Rich and Give to the Poor.
There is no question what these Progressives want to do.
They are out in the open.

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- Popp40
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:38am
  @Perry1980, I hear so many people saying that but I have to disagree……
  
  What I see is that the current group of Progressives/liberals/democrats wanting to steal from the rich and giving a little bit to the poor, just enough to keep the poor voting for them and keeping the rest of the money for themselves.
  
  Ask yourself, do you really think that the Progressives/Liberals/democrats (at least those in power and those supporting Obama) really paying more in taxes? They wil be given a free pass on any tax hikes. They will keep their money while taking yours.
  
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- goahead.makemyday
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:12am
  We now see who are going to be the pigs and the rest of the animals.
  
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thibx
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:22am
van is as dumb as the big smile on his face.

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Popp40
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:19am
So Van Jones…you say take it from the “rich”….does that include taking your money as well. After all we know you make over $250,000! And what about Obama and all the rich liberal elites?

Van Jones would love to cut money from our Defense because that means it would be that much easier for his Communist brothers to take over (but then again we aren’t putting up much of a fight against him and his communist brothers). Plus, the fact that Obama is trying to create his own army that is equal in force as our military….this would be a great way to do that….severly cut spending to our military while increasing spending on TSA.

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- barber2
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:51am
  POP: All true. Maybe the Obama Lefty “rich” friends , like the states who can can exceptions from certain ” requirements” they don’t like, can get tax exemptions. Given the Lies and Deception which are at the base of these arrogant, hate-filled people, I would expect nothing less. “They” are special. The rest of us are clogs in the machine or cows to be milked for their agenda.
  
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barber2
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:18am
Never thought I’d see the day when targeting industries and ” rich people ” would be an accepted political conversation on public funded radio. But then, I never thought I’d see the day when a Marxist would be in the White House and have taken over the Democrat Party. ( ” Re-distribution ” wink, wink )

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Lord_Frostwind
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:17am
Not enough cash to pay for Jones and the money black holes that are the government’s welfare programs. Plus, you can only loot those two industries once, after that it isn’t going to end well for your utopia. The beast feeds, and eventually it will consume itself, happens every time.

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MBA
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:12am
How more obvious can it be that liberals (especially the America haters) have no understanding of human nature–I guess because these nitwits are human abberations themselves. We need defense, we don’t need lazy, non contributing welfare dependents. When Iran and/or other terrorists invade this country is old van jones going to volunteer to protect his entitled? Or will the entitled volunteer to protect others? I don’t think so. Frustrating and frightening.

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- barber2
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:20am
  MBS: Totally agree. And the hate speech, and the dysfunctional swing to a non-defense posture is even more alarming. This will not end well.
  
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HKS
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:09am
He said the magic liberal words, “Take the Money” That’s what Liberals do, Take. Take, Take. Worthless Humans.

“Remember Benghazi”

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HKS
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:07am
And somebody said this guy was smart? Really.

“Remember Benghazi”

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- mercenary4freedom
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:39am
  What is really scarey is the fraudulent one meeting last week with Al not so Sharpton & other civil rights leaders & race hustlers about the fiscal cliff. WTF is that all about? I thought that was the Senate & Congress’ job. Must be something to do with giving out more taxpayer money to a bunch of sloths. A marxist thing huh?
  
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- Lt_Scrounge
  Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:49pm
  Obamao was almost assuredly informing them that while there would be talk of big cuts to the social welfare programs, those cuts would never actually happen. Just like every other spending cut that the liberals ever agree to. Please pass along to Boehner the advice to grow a pair and don’t let the Dems saddle Americans with a single red cent of new taxes unless it is met by a 3 for 1 reduction in ACTUAL spending, not projected spending, not projected spending increases, SPENDING. That means if the government spent $5.5 trillion this year, if they want $500 billion in tax increases they have to reduce spending to $4 trillion dollars THIS year, not over the next decade. NO more of the Wimpy deals. No more “I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today” arrangements. The Dems NEVER keep up their end of the deal.
  
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