Education

Was The Boston Tea Party Terrorism? Texas Schools Are Teaching Just That (And More)

(UPDATED: Additional information has been added to this story.)

In less than a month (December 16th), we will mark the 239th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party. This well-known protest against “taxation without representation” is almost universally recognized as the moment that sparked the American Revolution.

In many Texas public schools, the Boston Tea Party is now being taught as an example of an act of terrorism.

Here’s an excerpt from a Texas school system’s World History / Social Studies lesson plan. It purports to be helping teachers become more efficient, but many people are upset with the content of the lesson and the lack of parental review. In this specific instance, teachers are instructed to read the story to their classes as if it were a news report that had just happened within the past hour:

News report: New Act of Terrorism

A local militia, believed to be a terrorist organization, attacked the property of private citizens today at our nation’s busiest port. Although no one was injured in the attack, a large quantity of merchandise, considered to be valuable to its owners and loathsome to the perpetrators, was destroyed. The terrorists, dressed in disguise and apparently intoxicated, were able to escape into the night with the help of local citizens who harbor these fugitives and conceal their identities from the authorities. It is believed that the terrorist attack was a response to the policies enacted by the occupying country’s government. Even stronger policies are anticipated by the local citizens.

Later in the curriculum, teachers are instructed to reveal to students that the event described above the historic Boston Tea Party. Here’s a screen capture from the actual lesson and what should be done after the story is read:

Texas Schools Teaching The Boston Tea Party Was Terrorism

Image: Screen capture CSCOPE’s website

For the record, this lesson comes from a non-profit group called CSCOPE.  They are an offshoot of an educational program that traces its roots back to 1965 when the state established media centers / Education Service Centers (ESCs) throughout each of the state’s 20 school districts:

In 1965, the 59th Texas Legislature authorized the State Board of Education to establish media centers throughout the state. Two years later, the State Board of Education divided the state into 20 regions, assigning each media center to begin operations and serve in each region. In 1966-67, Title III of the U.S. Elementary and Secondary Education Act provided funding for start-up costs associated with establishing supplementary educational centers.

These “media centers” are reported to have received $25 million in funding last year.

Texas Schools Teaching The Boston Tea Party Was TerrorismJust a few years ago, 19 of the 20 centers formed a non-profit entity call the Texas Education Service Center Curriculum Collaborative (TESCCC). And TESCCC owns the Cscope Curriculum Management System. CSCOPE defines itself on their website:

CSCOPE is the source for an all-in-one approach to a quality curriculum system. CSCOPE is a comprehensive, customizable, user-friendly curriculum management system built on the most current research-based practices in the field.

TheBlaze has reached out to CSCOPE in hopes of clarifying a few of the issues being raised by parents. As of this writing, no calls have been returned.

One of the major issues we expect to discuss with CSCOPE’s directors is the complaint raised by several parents about the lack of transparency at the schools. Several parents from different locations in Texas have independently confirmed that parents are not permitted to access the lessons being taught in the classrooms. There is a “Parent’s Portal” available online, but the content differs greatly from the lesson plans we have seen.

For example, the lesson on terrorism shown above is part of the curriculum that correlates to this section in the Parents Portal:

Texas Schools Teaching The Boston Tea Party Was Terrorism

Image: CSCOPE web site

Several parents and teachers have written to TheBlaze stating that they were denied access to the lessons being taught using CSCOPE materials. This apparent denial is apparently in direct conflict with Texas law.

From Texas State Constitution:

Sec. 26.006.  ACCESS TO TEACHING MATERIALS. (a)  A parent is entitled to:

(1)  review all teaching materials, instructional materials, and other teaching aids used in the classroom of the parent’s child;

If schools using CSCOPE are not allowing parents to review education materials, it would appear they are violating one of the state’s constitutionally protected rights. Our initial investigation into CSCOPE has also uncovered some other questionable lesson plans. In order to properly vet these stories, TheBlaze is investigating further and will report back on Monday after Thanksgiving weekend.

If you have any information to contribute to our investigation, please email links and documents to: mopelka@theblaze.com

Update:

Since our original posting of this story, TheBlaze has received a flood of emails from educators and parents in Texas providing more information that will be included in our follow-up story next week. One teacher claimed that our report about the “Boston Tea Party being taught as terrorism” was incorrect and that the lesson is currently not on the CSCOPE website.

We do know that the lesson in question was on the site as recently as January of 2012 and apparently had been part of the curriculum since August of 2010 (see the screen capture from the now “scrubbed” web page below). Since officials from CSCOPE have not returned our calls, we cannot confirm the date when the curriculum and the website was changed.

Texas Schools Teaching The Boston Tea Party Was Terrorism

Image: CSCOPE screen capture

 

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Comments (205)

  • DadRocked
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:53pm

    Loyalists to the King were N American colonists who remained loyal subjects of the British crown. They were often referred to as Royalists / King’s Men. After the war they that did not want stay in the new country and settled in what became Canada. They were given a title as United Empire Loyalists.

    Their colonial opponents, who supported Revolution, were called Rebels, Patriots or Whigs, but just thought of themselves as free Americans.
    From the Patriot’s perspective, the Loyalists were traitors who would not support the cause.

    Hey Loyalists… Canada is calling…
    Us REBELS are content on being free Americans !

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    • michaelmoron
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:33pm

      I think we all know that the only terrorists we must fear are the “Politicians” in D.C.

      Public Education is a Socialist concept. It is the parents responsibility to educate their own children.

      You “Raise” them. Why would you let another stranger indoctrinate them? These Teachers Brainwashing your children aren’t even aware of what they are doing because they were themselves, Brainwashed.

      Pull your children out of school.

      You can start by showing this film:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU

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    • michaelmoron
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:43pm

      Here are some quotes they won’t teach in the Public school:

      “The very word “‘secrecy’” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings.”

      “And there is a very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.”

      “For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covet means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.”

      “Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.”
      - John F. Kennedy”

      Every effort has been made by the Fed (Reserve) to conceal its powers but the truth is — the Fed has usurped the government!”
      – Congressman Louis McFadden, Chairman of House Comm. on Banking and Currency from 1920 to 1931

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    • michaelmoron
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:11pm

      “Let me control a peoples currency and I care not who makes their laws.”
      – Meyer Nathaniel Rothschild in a speech to a gathering of world bankers February 12, 1912, a requote of his ancestor Mayer Amschel.

      “Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce.”
      – President James A. Garfield, assassinated 1881

      “This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President Wilson signs this bill, the INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT of the monetary power will be legalized….the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill. From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.”
      – Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., 1913

      “Behind the ostensible (visible) government sits enthroned an INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.”
      – Theodore Roosevelt

      “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies”
      – Thomas Jefferson

      “The real truth of the matter is that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
      – President Frankin D. Roosevelt

      “The Federal Reserve is one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this Nation is run by the international bankers.”
      – Congressman Louis T. McF

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    • desertspeaks
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:25pm

      http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005 Definitions
      Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85).
      Lets see, who or should I say what does that definition fit!
      The police!?!?! the government!?!?! The government will have the police KILL/MURDER you for disobeying a court order, disobeying an officers order, legal or not, they do it on a daily basis. All one has to do to confirm this is use the search engine of your choice and enter “police kill innocent. The results return 41,100,000 “forty one million one hundred thousand links!
      Now tell me again who the terrorists are????

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    • Chi_Chi
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:06am

      And some say Republicans lost the elecion because of outreach t minorties, but it’s beause th Liberals have taken over th education system for the last 60 years. Plato said, “The two most important questions for a society is who is teaching the children and what are they teachng them.” Read fresh political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/

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    • Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:58am

      The education system in Texas is a joke. First they try to remove Thomas Jefferson from social studies, then they started tracking students with RFID, and now this. I so wish they were not too cowardly to secede. For now I hope future generations will be able to declare. “Read my lips: NO NEW TEXANS!”

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    • Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:01am

      Pull your children out of schools says the moron. How about just pull them out of Texas schools? They are embarassment. They certainly are not liberal though.

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    • jcldwl
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:44am

      Hey you think Glenn is re-thinking that move to Texas?

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:07am

      Dadrocked… That was then, this is now. There is not much connection to GB today, with exception of queen as a figurehead and likely to be the last one as such. As things are going, Canucks are bound to be more free than Merkins, if not already the case. Just sayin… Anyhoo, you diverged from the spirit of the article.

      The fact is that the fellow travelers took over education in the USA nearly entirely. In order to reverse the damage that they are causing for the last 60 years, the education must be wrestled from their cold fingers ( whether dead cold fingers or not, depends).

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    • TROONORTH
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:43am

      Hey Dadrocked, we like to think that when the United Empire Loyalists came north, we got the cream of the crop. That is evidenced by who you elected in your last brawl ( here is a hint; Canada elected a conservative government. You. . . .. . well you elected something else entirely)

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:12am

      TROONORTH

      “… we like to think that when the United Empire Loyalists came north, we got the cream of the crop”

      I don’t and likely it is just kinda wishful thinking to convince oneself of a dubious relevance. But hat was quite a while ago. The fact is, if we can hold on to it (the trend towards conservative side of politics) and push it further, we may take on the torch of freedom, though admittedly, with our quiet-water nature, it may seem a bit wishy, though probably not washy.

      It is hard for me to sneer at Americans, though. One of my daughters and also my sister and my brother in law and their kids are Americans, so it is my self-interest to see a mighty correction of the path the USA is following. And it’s better when two (or more, damn what happened to Ozzies?) nations carry the torch. I am a bit worried the despite that we gradually are getting a rid of this socialist nonsense, it would be reintroduced back via American pressure and influences.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:16am

      And people wonder why I reject Beck’s call for Texas. Wyoming for me, thank you very much.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:57am

      Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
      Pull your children out of schools says the moron. How about just pull them out of Texas schools?

      jcldwl
      Hey you think Glenn is re-thinking that move to Texas?
      ***
      We are talking about public schools run by liberals/progressives in big cities (Austin & Houston).
      See the difference? I guess not. That is why you are liberals. Well not everyone can be healthy.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:58am

      GhostOfJefferson
      What about the federal government trying to move you out of your state or most of it by designating it a wilderness especially around Yellowstone?

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    • DeOppressoLiber
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:49am

      First off the British most likely did consider the Patriots terrorists.

      Modern Counter Terrorist operations came out of the Counter Revolutionary Warfare Wing, Operation Support Squadron of the 22nd SAS Regt. They started to develop TTP’s back in the late 60′s and early 70′s on how to deal with hostage rescue. They understood that terror is a psychological warfare tactic of revolutions and revolutionaries. Hostage rescue is a TTP to end the incident and steal back the psychological aspect.

      Terror is a TTP of psychological warfare, which is a main component of revolutionary warfare.

      I do not care that our Founding Fathers use it. The Revolution was most likely fought in the villages and country side more like it is fought in revolutions around the world.

      Revolutions are won and lost in the villages and country side.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:06am

      @Walkabout

      With Agenda 21, that’s going to happen everywhere in short order. My thought is, I’d rather be grouped with a bunch of people that essentially agree with me AND will fight for their rights, than be stuck in a “swing” state that can’t make up its mind from day to day whether it likes freedom or not.

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    • 1forthegoodguy
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:34am

      Michael, you have named yourself very aptly and no amount of out of context and off topic quotes can help that.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:39am

      From the story>>>
      A local militia, believed to be a terrorist organization, attacked the property of private citizens today at our nation’s busiest port. Although no one was injured in the attack, a large quantity of merchandise, considered to be valuable to its owners and loathsome to the perpetrators, was destroyed. The terrorists, dressed in disguise and apparently intoxicated, were able to escape into the night with the help of local citizens who harbor these fugitives and conceal their identities from the authorities. It is believed that the terrorist attack was a response to the policies enacted by the occupying country’s government. Even stronger policies are anticipated by the local citizens.>>>
      Let’s do an experiment? Israel should overpower the Gaza Strip (currently easily accomplished), and plant pig farms all through it. If local militia break in and destroy this “loathsome property” which would be valuable to Ocar Meyer, or Hormel, will the “Local Militia” who destroy it be terrorists or freedom fighters in the world’s opinion? Should be interesting to watch! No????

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:53am

      Walkabout: “… especially around Yellowstone?”

      When (not if) it blows, half of USA and a chunk of Canada will be moon landscape, not even a wilderness area.

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:07pm

      It is interesting to reconcile this history curriclum with other stories about how a person should go to Texas to find true liberty. I think I will stay in my Red State.

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    • naughtycal
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 1:52pm

      Its sounds like their teaching (indoctrinating)kids on what to think and not how to think ……AGAIN
      To use in teaching them TO LINK HAMAS and he77 maybe even the 9/11 HIGHJACKERS as patriots or to degrate our FOUNDER FATHERS TO THE LOATHSOME LEVEL AS THE 9/11 HIGHJACKERS……either way REAL AMERICANS NEEDS TO PULL THEIR KIDS OUT OF GOVERNMENT (RE)EDUCATIONAL CENTERS

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    • michaelmoron
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:58pm

      1forthegoodguy
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:34am
      Michael, you have named yourself very aptly and no amount of out of context and off topic quotes can help that.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Out of Context ? Off Topic ? Are you Nescient?

      My Point was exactly what the story was about. Revisionist History.

      Re-writing, Deleting, or twisting the truth, to indoctrinate the Bankster’s new generation of debt slaves.

      Can you come to the table with a Constructive substantive suggestion or comment, or is it just odious meaningless and inaccurate blovition?

      I bet You’re a troll that loves Michael Moore, and has his posters on your wall in your mama’s house.

      If the wizard gave you a brain you could see the message the founding fathers was telling us in those quotes.
      These quotes explain EVERYTHING !!!!
      But idiots like yourself still run around in circles, watching the Democratic and Republican politician whack-a-mole, trying to figure out the shell game.

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    • michaelmoron
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:11pm

      *bloviation (Rhetoric, Hot Air, Running your Pie-Hole, etc.)

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    • 1forthegoodguy
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 11:17am

      Michael Moron-quit trying to be Dennis Miller. It isn’t working. Your comments here don’t make sense and either did your response to my comment. Look, this post was about some TX schools using a hypothetical question to stimulate discussion. Your response was to bring up conspiracy theories, quotes from pols that aren’t even connected to education, the Tea Party, and the Federal Reserve. You’re wacked as many Blaze readers are. Good luck with that.

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    • michaelmoron
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 11:48am

      @1forthegoodguy

      Okay liberal.

      Tell people that the Tea Party members were, and are terrorists.

      Tell people that Teddy Roosevelt was a conspiracy theorist for mentioning an “Invisible government” and FDR was a tin-foil hat wearing kook for saying that “a financial element in the large centers has owned the government”.

      Like I mentioned earlier. You are clueless. Remain that way. Some people say ignorance is Bliss.
      I guess you are one of those.

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  • CINCH
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:50pm

    Gov. Perry: This is another example of AGENDA 21 in our beautiful state of Texas. Texans unite and get in touch with Gov. Perry about this travesty. This group is clearly in violation of the Constitution of Texas. They should receive no State or Federal funds. Only you Texas citicens can stop this. Dust off those computers and get to writing and calling Gov. Perry.

    NO AGENDA 21 FOR TEXAS.

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:08pm

      Citizens? You might want to check out your teachers before advising Texas. If there more pictures of Marilyn Monroe than George Washington, it’s a clue. And surely your teacher had a dictionary.

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    • CINCH
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:04pm

      Sorry Granny – my bad. Did not spell check.

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    • Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:03am

      Are you kidding? Perry has to approve these things for the schools. I think his goal is to make all Texans as smart as he is.

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  • Armyof One
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:44pm

    Umm, the “spark of the Revolution” was the Battle Of Concord in April 1775, as British Soldiers were sent to remove arms and powder from the town storages. This also was the “spark” for the 2nd Amendment.

    The Boston tea party was widely condemned by patriots, and the involved parties were forced..by Americans.. to repay the damages.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:49pm

      It was not terrorism, unless we call bra burning a terrorist act. No one threatened or killed.

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    • Briggston
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:25pm

      Other facts concerning the Boston tea party
      1. The tea was government sponsered and forced to be purchased by the citizens against their will while they were being taxed for it at the same time. The corporate crony makers of the tea reaping a huge profit due to being in bed with the government which they got a kick back from. Competition in the market discouraged as liberty to choose other tea competittors was squashed and limited. Petitions to the government(King and Parliment) were ignored and met with political pressure and attacks.
      2.No other property was harmed in the boston Tea party or looting. Nor were any of the merchants or sailors carrying the cargo abused in any way.We even cleaned up the mess afterwards. It was what the left calls a true peacefull protest (which they never do). and we didn’t burn the city to the ground smash stores, rob, or shout death to PIGS at the british who were there.

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    • ColoradoBoots
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:02pm

      Armyof One, you are correct. This was not terrorism, it was a demonstration. The disguised colonials dressed as Indians because they respected them, as a symbol of free people. Everyone knew who they were. They did not want to cause harm to the ship owner and reimbursed him for the lock they broke to gain access to the tea. The man who stole tea that day was tarred and feathered. The British were not an occupying force, they were an out of control government in their own colonies. Learn more at http://www.appleseedinfo.org

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    • longknifed
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:08pm

      “Terrorism” is any unsuccessful revolution. Al Qaeda is terroristic when it is in Iraq, but becomes freedom fighters when it crosses the border into Syria.

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:10pm

      BRIGGSTON: All true but you don’t expect that to be taught in any public school, do you?

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    • GroverCleveland
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:49pm

      Briggston: the tea was consigned to private merchants, who were prepared to accept and market it without any coercion on the part of the British government. No one was forced to purchase tea, and in fact those who were involved in the nascent rebellion had agreed to forgo the consumption of tea and other goods as a means of giving teeth to their protest. The world you imagine in the past resembles the one many of you on this site imagine for the future: a world in which you are forced to eat and drink as some tyrant tells you. Perhaps if you were better acquainted with your own nation’s history, you would fear the future less.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:32am

      Actually, the “spark” for the 2nd Amendment was lit by the Anglo-Saxon tribes of England back in 600 A.D. They defined a free man from a slave simply by the right to bear arms. If you were a free man, no person could deprive you of both owning and bearing your arms wherever you chose. The Founders, in codifying the 2nd Amendment, were doing little else than putting a long held British birthright into writing, to make sure everybody understood the rules from the get go.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:52pm

      @longknifed
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:08pm

      “Terrorism” is any unsuccessful revolution. Al Qaeda is terroristic when it is in Iraq, but becomes freedom fighters when it crosses the border into Syria
      ****
      You forgot to cite your source! state dept, white house, or cia? (Or Dept of Justice?)

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  • Robert999
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:43pm

    Yes, it was terrorism. There were a lot of terrorist acts during the Revolutionary War on both sides, especially in the South.

    Terrorism is a tactic and can be used by the side we agree with (the good guys) and the side we disagree with (the bad guys). There were acts of terrorism against the British during the Israeli fight for independence; for example, in 1946 the King David Hotel was bombed by Israeli nationalists killing 91 people. During WWII both sides committed terrorist acts, examples: the German terror bombing of Rotterdam in 1940; the terror bombing of Dresden in 1945 by British and US forces.

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    • TxRebel
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:11pm

      Your ignorance of history is second only to your inability to distinguish good from evil. And that’s a distant second…

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    • Marine25
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:25pm

      You are correct. It meets satisfies every definition of terrorism. And the Sons of Liberty and the Founders were as radical as they come. Radical. Not conservative. Not even liberal. Enthusiastic, self-described radicals.

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    • crazedbanshee
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:06pm

      @Marine25

      “the use of VIOLENCE and THREATS to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.”
      (emphasis added)
      Give me an example where that definition is met. If i remember correctly we are talking about the Boston Tea Party and not the Boston Massacre. On which of these two events was the definition above met? Who was demonstrating in each event?

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    • yiska8
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:37pm

      @Robert
      You mentioned events in WWII. Not wise. Those acts were done in WAR.
      PEARL HARBOR was a terror attack.9/11, Benghazi…. all TERRORIST ACTS.
      Pancho Villa raiding on the New Mexican American side of the border was terrorism.
      A rebel against the crown of King George, was labeled a traitor and neighbor would turn on neighbor. Those were frightening times to want freedom. So much had to be collaborated in secret again the Crown. There was no terrorism. The Brits would have called it treason of course, and the American “rebels” were ready to be free subjects of their own making. And fought very dearly for it. And most Americans decided to trash these historical efforts a couple of weeks ago by re-electing a King of their own. The FOOD STAMP KING…. King Obama the First.

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    • Nepenthe
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:31pm

      And the allied bombimng of Dresden was a terrorist attack. Both sides, as we have proved over the last decade, are capable of committing acts of terrorism.

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    • GroverCleveland
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 11:00pm

      Terrorism, by definition, is meant to strike terror into the hearts of one’s enemies. It is unfortunate, disappointing, sad, annoying, etc., to hear that one’s tea has been tossed into the brine, but it is not terror-inducing. Terrorism works, as such, when innocents are struck without warning, and in places they believe themselves safe. There is no bloodless terrorism. And theft or destruction of property alone does not qualify.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:34am

      Dresden was an attack during war. Had the Germans wished to have avoided such an attack, they should have rethought the whole “go to war with the world” thing they had going on at the time. Cities are not immune from bombing in war, sorry.

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    • Marine25
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:28pm

      @crazedbanshee
      This protest should considered an act of terrorism, since it was property sabotage designed to bring to wide attention the political objectives of a non-state group, the American colonists.
      The value of the tea, by tea way was almost 10,000 sterling. In 2012 dollars, that’s 800,000 American. Or if you compute by pounds of tea, 45 tons, multiplied by today’s average cost of loose tea, you get 2.7 million American dollars. It was significant enough to warrant a severe response from Parliament. It was violent, as it used physical force to achieve (unlawful) means. It was terrorism. Same Sons of Liberty tarred and feathered British tariff agents, almost always resulting in death. I suppose that’s not terrorism in your book, either.

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  • WINNEBAGOMAN
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:41pm

    Not only does the federal government not want to give parents school choice, but they don’t want to give parents a choice in what they (the feds) are teaching their kids.

    This is it, folks! This is the end-game. The government turns the children against the parents. Not mine! Government, and that means Democrats AND Republicans, you can’t have my daughter! She will not be your servant! She will be a patriot! She will be free and provide Liberty for others!

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    • Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:10am

      But will she be “free” to choose her own path or only the path you force her to take? What if she doesn’t want to bring liberty to others?

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    • Redwing1
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:00am

      Or will she be forced to learn what the deviant leftist teachers force down her throat? Why are they trying to hide what they are teaching? Will she be “free” to tell her teachers they are full of crap or will she be “forced” to sit down and shut up?

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    • WINNEBAGOMAN
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:17pm

      I was blessed… blessed with wonderful parents. If I can be half the parent my father was, and my wife is already amazing, I know my daughter will grow up knowing what is right, what Liberty is, and when theft and lies are upon her.

      @ REDWING: I will put her through public school and teach her right along side them. They will learn what their role is. To assist me. When they screw it up, they will hear from me. If they don’t give me, the parent access. We’re out. We don’t HAVE to go that route, but I’d like for her to have that experience if possible.

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  • Twinspeedr
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:38pm

    Liberals want our schools to turn out servile employees, not Americans. Home School your kids people!!!!!! Hello!!!!!

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    • DIgnified
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 8:40pm

      Only imaginary friends and having a small paycheck working for our new gods, the wealthy, will make us free. Homeschool now!

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    • longknifed
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 3:40am

      Jefferson was a liberal, as were the rest of the founding fathers.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:22am

      longknifed, unfortunately what happened is this:

      “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”
      - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

      IOW, the meaning of “liberal” then and now are two entirely different animals.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:38am

      Classical liberal, which means libertarian. They were not socialists.

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  • GOP-Teacher
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:37pm

    Plain and simple, I can say from the trenches (I am a high school English teacher) that the push toward political correctness has gone waaaaay past acceptible. Bottomline, many parents are far too manipulative. I am a public school teacher and there is NO WAY my son will ever be found attending the public school I teach in. I see what the elementary and middle schools send me and want my child to be no part of it. My husband and I decided we’d live on PB&J if it meant affording the local parochial school. Note to all parents: If you can even remotely afford it–spend a day with your child at school. You can’t be turned away. YOU pay a portion of the salaries of ever individual employed in that school!! Get your money’s worth. Keep in touch with teachers via email; attend Parent/Teacher Conferences; get involved with your child and their education Kindergarten thru 12! If you don’t like what is being taught, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT AS A PARENT TO REQUEST AN ALTERNATIVE ASSIGNMENT/PROJECT. Did you know this! Keep in mind that 90-99% of public school educators are very progressive and liberal in their beliefs. This spills over into their daily lessons and how materials are skewed in the classroom. Get involved is the best I can offer!!!

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    • Lamarr01
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:10am

      I said “thank God” in my daughter’s kindergarten classroom. The teacher looked up at the intercom hoping the school administrator didn’t hear the forbidden word.

      The school glorifies “recycling” but the kids throw out the crappy lunches mandated by Momma Obama. Eating meat is disgusting. Only chicken tenders allowed. My daughter is not allowed to bring food from home because it doesn’t meet Federal guidelines..

      The little boys are taught to be effeminate. There is a huge campaign on “bullying”. Dodgeball is strictly forbidden because it is too violent. Choosing up sides is forbidden because somebody might be chosen last and that could destroy their self image.

      The students get praised for everything. The teacher uses “awesome” all the time.

      Global warming is the new religion.

      The students are divided into two broad socioeconomic groups. The lucky kids have two biological parents that have a steady income and a home. The second group have a single mother and boyfriends that come and go. Many of them live in apartments and move around a lot. This group watches TV and plays computer games and needs to be entertained every minute.

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  • media-bias-steals-elections
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:34pm

    The problem with that little “gem of misinformation” is that it was not terrorism, threatening the lives of people with eminent death, it was the “redistribution of wealth” or a version of “social justice” by throwing cargo they were paying for with their taxes, into the ocean, not harming a soul?

    The problem with this little theory is that the context of the American Revolution was there was a declaration of Independence? The problem with this bit of propaganda is that marginalizes the fact that Americans, when pushed against the wall, declare war on people, and win?

    We wrote a piece of paper, sent it to the King, and told him, buzz off?

    You call that terrorism the history of the United States and how it secured liberty for its citizens from a King and his greedy little buddies who wanted to control the lives of people like cattle?

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  • Maggie75
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:34pm

    This is interesting. The left will not call the FT. Hood shooter a terrorist or even discuss the Muslim Brotherhoods true intent but they will go after the founding fathers and say they committed a terrorist act against our Nation when we were not even a Nation yet

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  • Rational Man
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:31pm

    They are trying to brainwash kids into not rising up against a repressive government like the one they are building here in America. You are a terrorist if you do and that’s bad. If you kill an American Ambassador and 3 others in an attack on a foreign consulant, then it’s just having a hissy fit and nothing to fret about. Our (re-) education system is looking more like China’s every day. All hail King Obama and sing songs about him…….I think I’m going to be sick!

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:37pm

      This is what the International Baccalaureate program, IB, is bringing to our schools. You had better wake up. It’s spreading throughout our country.

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    • DadRocked
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:59pm

      WOW JERK – This can not be, in NO way, be something that we can agree on.
      Do you really believe what you wrote or did I misunderstand you?

      Quick before I need a defibrillator…

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:14pm

      DAD, set the defibrillator to 360 joules. You’d be surprised at just how much we probably agree on.

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    • DadRocked
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:37pm

      Jerk – “DAD, set the defibrillator to 360 joules. You’d be surprised at just how much we probably agree on”

      After reading your crap for awile… I doubt it.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:56pm

      Dad, shake off the sycophantic Israel disorder and become more loyal to America first, and you’d be surprised… that is, if you didn’t fall out of a Huey head first.

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    • DadRocked
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:20pm

      jerk – “Dad, shake off the sycophantic Israel disorder and become more loyal to America first, and you’d be surprised… that is, if you didn’t fall out of a Huey head first.”

      With responses/attacks back from you, there is NO way that I, nor most here, could ever be of like minds with you.
      I will restate myself, “After reading your crap for awile… I doubt it.”
      The defense rests your honor…

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:32pm

      Dad, your stupidity is on display.

      All you do is personally attack, then whine when others return the fire. This was “your” initial statement to which I responded: “After reading your crap for awhile… I doubt it.”

      Even a fool of your caliber can see that it was personal. So, man up wuss.

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    • DadRocked
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 9:01pm

      “All you do is personally attack, then whine when others return the fire. This was “your” initial statement to which I responded: “After reading your crap for awhile… I doubt it.”

      You obviously don’t read your own writings nor see what or how others react to your writings.
      Your reputation has been dog crap for a very long time.
      Your pseudonym is a joke but by your writings, it is quite fitting.
      You have been an instigator talking without regard to anybody except it is your way or the hightway.
      You writings JERK, have been a sad joke on these posts for quite some time.

      I stand by what I said… ““After reading your crap for awhile…”
      You do write a lot of CRAP!

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:55pm

      Dad, thus far I have given you the benefit of doubt, but, as it turns out, you really are that stupid. Just read your last post, and see how you are exactly what you accuse me of being. Agent orange?

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 5:21am

      I’m just sick of jackasses trolling my posts and telling me to “wake up” as if they are the all knowing power of the universe. Typical Libertarian/conspiracy theorist nutcase. They have to say crap like that all the time to others because of their small penis syndrome and inferiority complex. You try to tolerate them cause you know their sick little weaklings, but their annoyance tries ones patience and temper.

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  • Mister July
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:30pm

    Vandalism? Absolutely. It was the purposeful destruction of private property by someone other than the rightful owner. Terrorism? Certainly not. Terrorism is the purposeful targeting of innocent civilians in order to prompt a reaction from a state (i.e. 9/11/2001, OK City, Atlanta Olympic Park, etc). Texas schools are compounding the error.

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  • Dano.50
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:29pm

    Read Ann Coulter’s “Demonic” about mob mentality.

    Ironically a chapter of the book was dedicated to showing how the Boston Tea Party went out of their way to not become a mob.

    That included making restitution for any damages caused, even if accidental.

    And even defending British loyalists, giving them fair trials, and in a number of cases, proving their innocence and compensating them.

    The book also shows the differences between American Revolution and the French Revolution. One of the ironic things is, all except one of America’s Founding Fathers died of old age, while all the original leaders of the French Revolution met with “Madame Guillotine.”

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    • Lt_Scrounge
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:56pm

      The economic conditions that are headed this way as a result of Obamao’s policies will rival those of 1780s France. I wonder how long it will take for everyone to begin considering those lavish vacations and parties the equivalent of a “Let them eat cake” statement?

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:29pm

    This is just one more example of revisionist history on behalf of the progressives.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:36pm

      Indeed it is,they’ll never stop and they’re like cockroaches,very hard to get rid of.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:53pm

      @Progressive:

      True, that is why we have to remain vigilant for the corruption they bring in.

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:12pm

      And what of Southern’s that argue its Lincoln’s defense of the union that was the treasonous act during the Civil War? There is nothing wrong with teaching students to question the interpretation of history they have always been taught (I believe question with boldness is Beck’s mantra) and view the same event from different perspectives.

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    • DadRocked
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:50pm

      Northerners call it a Civil War
      Southerners never saw it that way… They still call it the War of the States.
      Different perspectives to the same end.

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:16pm

      ENCINOM: Here’s you go again, spouting off about things you have no clue. No one is saying one should question, but this takes fact, twists it into a lie and pawns it off on students that aren’t being told the truth. Give it up, Mary. Every time you come on this site you make an idiot of yourself.

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    • longknifed
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:31pm

      History is written by victors
      - Churchill

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 7:40pm

      @Al J Zira
      Another member of Beck’s flock of sheep, getting outraged over nothing. How dare students be taught to think and question historical facts that they took for granted or be asked to look at events through other’s eyes. I know, to Beck and his flock empathy is a dirty word.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:53pm

      Encinom – No surprise that you consider it ok to call the Boston Tea Party an act of terrorism. No wonder you leftists are considered anti-American.

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  • david3755
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:28pm

    Looks like a good excuse to drop these textbooks and as Texas goes, so goes many of the states close by that depend on good research. Looks like this one slipped through the cracks. Time for an example to be made.

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  • 1TrueOne55
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:21pm

    This is what revisionist History changing looks like. Not based on facts of the day but emotions of the future to overlay on the past. If you want to call our founding fathers terrorists then go for it because in the future some years decades centuries in the future so could you. Especially with loose interpretations that fly around the Progressive Elite Education Centers called College.

    I believe and tell a lot of my friends and family that, “You can be so smart that you are stupid”.

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  • SamTheNantiSARRMM
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:21pm

    You know… in signing the Declaration of Independence, the signers were all too aware that if they lost the cause for revolution, that they would be branded traitors. Given that the victors of history write history, and how history played out, The Boston Tea Party could very well have been considered terrorism if events turned out differently.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:31pm

      I’m sure the owners of the tea and the taxing authorities thought so at the time. In fact, the colonials felt terrorized by the crown’s men and the taxman, too. The colonials tried to negotiate an end to the over-taxed burdens they were bearing. The crown and Parliament refused to hear of it, and war for liberation was its result.

      That said, is it any wonder why Texas has such big fights over curriculum?

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  • honestynow
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:21pm

    This would be similar to something the International Baccalaureate (IB) curriculum does.
    To sum it up: US=bad, multicult/UN/global/statist=good.

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  • Dismayed Veteran
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:20pm

    From the British and Loyalist perspective:

    1. The Boston Tea Party would be a terrorist act.
    2. The Boston Massacre was a mob attack on British troops.
    3. Concord and Lexington were treasonous armed attacks in defiance of legal authority.
    4. The American Revolutionary War was an act of treason.

    But we were the victors and got to write the history books. I also think we should keep our history as we know it. I don’t like this new curriculum.

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:08pm

      But it doesn’t hurt to learn critical thinking skills and look at a historical event from another point of view. History is not black and white, but filled with nuances, and different perspectives will view the same act differently, catholic Irishmen have a different view of the British, the Potato famine and Northern Ireland occupation, than Protestants and non-irish. Some Southerns view the actions of Lincoln as treasonous act, not their attempt to defend slavery by seceding from the Republic. This lesson plan is a tool to challenge students to look at history, beyond what is in the text books and look at all sides.

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    • Rowgue
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:11pm

      Vandalism is not the same as terrorism.

      And none of what you described are terrorist actions. Terrorist actions are attacks on innocent non combatants. Attacking an army is not a terrorist action it’s an act of war. If you can’t understand those basic fundamental differences then you have no business even discussing any of those things.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 10:55pm

      Encinom – No wonder you leftists hate America.

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:37am

      Rowgue

      Please note my introductory phrase: In the eyes of the British and Loyalists. That perspective is different than mine.

      Sometimes it is good to look through the eyes of the enemy.

      For example, a Regular Army unit was proceeding on a road march to remove weapons from a National Guard armory because there was intelligence that those weapons would be used against the federal, state and local governments. Enroute the Army unit was ambushed by armed civilians and National Guard troops. Would this be an act of war, an act of rebellion, a legitimate exercise of rights under the Constitution, a violation of the Oath or an upholding of the Oath? It all depends on the perspective to the individual.

      If the Boston Tea Party is vandalism, what would you call the Weather Underground bombing of government buildings after hours so no one was injured? Both were the destruction of property without the loss of life. Consider Kent State. What began as a peaceful demonstration became more and more unrestrained and university property was damaged. The National Guard was summoned and eventually fired into an unarmed mob and killed students. Change the words to Boston and this pretty much describes the Boston Massacre. It all depends on an individual’s perspective.

      BTW, I didn’t call Concord terrorism. I called it treason. I understand the difference.

      PS. My family has fought in every war beginning with the Spanish American War to Afghanistan.

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  • Keatonc333
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:19pm

    HAhaha texas is so dumb!

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    • DadRocked
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:26pm

      KEATON – Another one liner from an amateur Einstein…
      You’re better than that… Come on Keaton, I’ve gotten to know you better… Quit lowering yourself and put some meat and potatoes on your comments.

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    • SERUM
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:41pm

      I’m pretty sure the educated use a capital “T” when spelling Texas, go figure.

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:57pm

      I may be dumb but I ain’t stupid. Hahahaha. Take that and that and that. I know how to spell supercalifragilisticexpedalidocious and Oklahoma. Duh!

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  • whathappenedtomycountry
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:19pm

    This is just another example of the socialist left that control education, perpetuating their sick agenda. They are brainwashing your kid’s. Home school or private school but quit taking your kid’s to the concentration camps of the administration.

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  • Cavallo
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:19pm

    They have to start teaching that all but complete reverence and respect for the State and its institutions is subversive, seditious, and treason. The State is your master. This is what they have been educating the children for many decades. It is simply more pronounced, and is creeping faster and faster towards that fascist utopian ideal in which the liberty minded individuals of the past are cast aside in favor of the fascist autocrats of the present. You have no freedom. Now they will instruct you on how to love that condition.

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  • obxned
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:17pm

    Souns like it is time for Texans to do aserious housecleaning in their education system! Somebody bring a rope.

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  • Mutiny
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:17pm

    Just goes to show that even in Texas, liberals run the schools.

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  • Lord_Frostwind
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:17pm

    Well, based on the extremely convoluted definition of terrorism, really any crime that is targeted against civilians that isn’t “white collar” could reasonably be defined as terrorism. This is probably just another excuse for teachers to be “American loathing,” but if you can get past the taboo buzzwords, then really there is a lesson to be learned. Be careful how far you push someone, sometimes they push back.

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    • Mister July
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:35pm

      Terrorism and Vandalism are not the same thing.

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    • Lord_Frostwind
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 6:39pm

      Ah, but here lies the problem, if I use Vandalism in conjunction with efforts such as extortion or as threats to get someone to do something that I want them to do, connected to some other criminal act that utilizes violence against a soft civilian target, then it can be a component part of an act of terrorism.

      And that kids is why there needs to be an actual definition for terrorism, not the 30+ legal, bureaucratic definitions there are in the US Criminal Justice system. Because you can connect nearly any criminal act to terrorism. It’s easier than the six degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.

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  • Lloyd Drako
    Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:14pm

    After the Revolution, 60,000 Tories and their families chose exile rather than suffer retribution at the hands of vengeful patriots. You can be sure they were fleeing in terror from something.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:18pm

      They were fleeing from their enemy. Not surprising.

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    • Diane TX
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:25pm

      Did they really flee, or did they want to remain on the side of the English? I think it’s the latter.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:29pm

      They were fleeing their enemy because they knew their enemy. During the Revolution itself, Patriots had been known to treat Tories to an assortment of tortures ranging from tarring and feathering, to pouring boiling hot tea down their throats, to outright lynching. But the good guys won so it wasn’t terrorism.

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    • Polarized America
      Posted on November 20, 2012 at 5:40pm

      Some were just held in prison & later exiled like Ben Franklin son William

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:27pm

      Lloyd Drako

      They were fleeing their enemy because they knew their enemy. During the Revolution itself, Patriots had been known to treat Tories to an assortment of tortures ranging from tarring and feathering, to pouring boiling hot tea down their throats, to outright lynching. But the good guys won so it wasn’t terrorism.
      ***
      That I would consider terrorism. It is at a local level.

      Some of the fighting especially in the south was settling family feuds. That I don’t consider terrorism as part of the revolution so much as Hat field & McCoys on steroids. The Revolution provided cover and.or an excuse on both sides of a feud to settle scores during a period of weak or no government.

      The Tea Party I don’t consider Terrorism. Nor do I consider Washington, Franklin or Jefferson terrorists. Washington for example led an army openly & in uniform.

      P.S. One more thing you are judging the colonists by your standards. By the standards of the day, Washington if captured could have been hung, drawn & quartered. So boiling tea & tarring feathering is rather mild. In the meantime Washington spared the likes of British officer Asgill when by the rules of 18th century warfare he could have had him shot.

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