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Bus Explodes in Central Tel Aviv: Hamas Takes Responsibility & Reportedly Launches ‘Ecstatic’ Celebration

Bus Explodes in Central Tel Aviv as Hamas Takes Responsibility

Bus in central Tel Aviv where explosion took place (photo credit: Israel Channel 2 screen shot via Times of Israel)

Sharona Schwartz reports from Israel for TheBlaze.

A large explosion took place on a bus in central Tel Aviv Wednesday. Hamas in Gaza claimed responsibility for the attack it says was carried out by a suicide bomber, reports the Times of Israel, though Israeli police officials said they did not find the body of a terrorist on the bus. A journalist for Israel Channel 2 quotes his sources in Ramallah reporting Palestinians there celebrated the news and some handed out candy, while another reporter for the Israeli network said the response on the street in Gaza was “ecstatic.”

The BBC’s Gaza reporter Rushdi Abualouf wrote via Twitter that Hamas celebrated as an achievement the Tel Aviv bombing over mosque loudspeakers.

You can witness the aftermath in our slideshow of the incident below:

Israel’s Channel 2 initially quoted police sources who said they arrested two individuals suspected of involvement in the attack, but security officials later told Israel Army Radio that no suspect was in custody by Wednesday afternoon. One man who was arrested at the “Boursa” Tel Aviv Stock Exchange is now believed to be psychologically unstable and is not being considered a suspect at this time, reports Channel 2 News police correspondent Moshe Nussbaum.

The explosion took place at the corner of King Saul Street and Weitzman Street. An eyewitness tells Army Radio the bus was not full at the time. Avi Mayer who works for the Jewish Agency writes, “A friend who was at the scene of the Tel Aviv bus bombing reports ‘glass all over, screams, a burnt smell, blood all over the place.’”

The Magen David Adom rescue services say ten passengers were injured, of them hospital sources say one sustained heavy wounds, two moderate and the rest lightly from the explosion that took place around noon local. A local hospital says 17 arrived in the emergency room, some of them suffering from psychological trauma.

The White House quickly condemned the bus bombing, calling attacks on innocent civilians “outrageous”:

The United States condemns today’s terrorist attack on a bus in Tel Aviv. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of those injured, and with the people of Israel. These attacks against innocent Israeli civilians are outrageous. The United States will stand with our Israeli allies, and provide whatever assistance is necessary to identify and bring to justice the perpetrators of this attack. The United States reaffirms our unshakeable commitment to Israel’s security and our deep friendship and solidarity with the Israeli people.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was in Israel Wednesday meeting with Israeli and Palestinian officials to try to secure a ceasefire, which so far seems elusive. UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon is also on the ground, and released his own condemnation of the bus attack:

“The Secretary-General was shocked at the news of the terror attack on a bus today in the center of Tel Aviv. He condemns this attack in the strongest possible terms. There are no circumstances that justify the targeting of civilians. The Secretary-General is saddened and expresses his sympathy to those injured in the blast.”

While details are still sketchy, Israel Channel 2 reports that police are investigating if the terrorist threw the bomb onto the bus and ran away. Contrary to that report, one eyewitness told Channel 2 that passengers told police a suspicious man got off the bus one stop before the explosion took place.Tel Aviv Police Chief Aharon Axel says “We are combing the area.”

Police are trying to determine whether the bomber came from Gaza, the West Bank or Jerusalem. With ongoing hostilities, the Gaza possibility would seem less likely.

Jonathan Schanzer of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies in Washington writes: “Just unlikely that the attack originated in Gaza, given distance from TA [Tel Aviv] and the barrier. The West Bank barrier more porous.” He warns that if the attack originated in the West Bank, it could portend the opening of a second front from the West Bank as Israel continues to battle Gaza terrorists.

Many rescue vehicles including fire trucks and ambulances arrived quickly on the scene. The explosion took place very close to Ichilov Hospital and to the IDF headquarters, also known as the “Kirya.” Police protectively closed the Azrieli Center, one of the country’s largest malls situated in a three-building skyscraper complex.

An eyewitness told Israel’s Army Radio he saw white smoke that rose about 15 yards high.

Reporters on site said the bus’ windows were blown out, and that the numbers blew off so that they couldn’t inform worried listeners which bus line was hit.

A police spokesman told Army Radio “We are pursuing a number of investigative directions,” while an Army Radio correspondent reported her sources said no body of a suicide bomber was found on the bus.

Police cordoned off the area to look for any secondary bombs as has been terrorists’ modus operandi in past attacks.

An eyewitness said he at first thought the explosion was an incoming missile: “We heard a horrible sound.” “There is a deep fear the terrorist who planted the bomb got away.”

According to the BBC which is monitoring the Hamas-run Al-Aqsa TV station, Hamas released this statement: “Hamas welcomes the martyrdom operation and stresses that it is a natural response to the massacring of the Al-Dalu family and the targeting of Palestinian citizens.”

Eight members of the Al-Dalu family were killed earlier this week in an Israeli air strike. The IDF said it is investigating what it’s calling a mistaken bombing that had been intended for a man “in charge of rocket launching” from the neighborhood.

​TheBlaze will continue to update this post as more information comes in, including reactions from the Israeli and U.S. governments.

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Comments (91)

  • tzion
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:11am

    And this is why Israel built the security barrier. 10 years ago this was happening on a regular basis.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:24am

      Is it any surprise the Palestinians are partying at the death of Israeli civilians? They were dancing in the streets as the planes hit the World Trade Center.
      These neanderthals are beyond reasoning with.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:39am

      A 5 pound bomb strapped to a body is the only response available to a 500 pound bomb strapped to an American made F-16. They’re all nuts. Get out and stay out of other people’s squabbles.

      The_Jerk  
    • jblaze
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:52am

      Reporting LIVE from Jerusalem.

      https://www.thetrumpet.com/trumpet_daily/1219/gaza-war-exposes-israels-deadly-wound

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    • upeopleneedtogetalife
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:56am

      AvengerK
      Is it any surprise the Palestinians are partying at the death of Israeli civilians? They were dancing in the streets as the planes hit the World Trade Center. Tese neanderthals are beyond reasoning with.

      1. Wan’t there also some Mossad agents caught dancing as well after 9-11? Remember FOX News discussing it briefly before the Jewish Chertoff ordered their release? Yes those FOX News stories about the Mossad operations in and around NYC before 9-11 were very interesting but no one wants to talk about that any longer?? You’d think it would be pretty relevant considering their (Mossad) proclivity to use “False Flag” operations.. Remember Mossad means “Make War through Deception”.

      2. The Palestinians are fools and devils! They should appreciate the IDF using their smart US provided smart bombs upon their women and children.. Indeed Glenn Beck they should be passing out candy and dancing in the streets in utter ecstasy over their slaughter.. and if they attempt to retaliate by killing a Jew then they should all mourn, put on black, and beg God for forgiveness for responding to the Jewish massacre!

      It’s very comical getting your propaganda from the Jewish Media and their shills such as Beck, Hannity, Wilcow, Oreilly, Limbaugh and the other hordes of conservative Jewish talk pundits..
      Surprised they are not circulating photos of Palestinians pitch forking babies like they did with the Germans in WW1.

      They’re so clever.. They certainly have Am

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:06pm

      HEY JERK: This is their “ONLY DEFENSE” you pathetic sicko: HOW about not throwing bombs but taking the $ you are being GIVEN by US (and other Country) Taxpayers and building your own land, your own schools and hospitals (The ONLY Hospital they have in GAZA is one paid for by Methodists from the USA)… building a life. JUST EXISTING to PUSH ANOTHER GROUP into the SEA is simply
      PATHETIC.
      I’m amazed at the ISRAELI restraint. YOU do not know what has happened in those areas; you have only fallen for their “I’m A VICTIM” garbage. Why don’t you suggest that JORDAN and LEBANON give back the huge amounts of land they took while the UN wasn’t watching in 1947? Or is that too difficult?
      I will not respond to anything you say because anything you say is from the same gutter as what you have just said here.
      ISRAELIS have the right to live in PEACE. THIS “War” against them has been staged for one reason only…so the “leaders” of Hamas (formerly ARAFAT) can stay in power and collect $ that is supposed to be for all the people there, for themselves. IF WE, USA, Would stop sending the Palestinians ANY money, then there would be a better chance for PEACE than the snowball’s chance in hell now.
      SO Hillary goes to GAZA to speak with them. HOW STUPID can we be? CUT OFF FUNDS. DEMAND they stop lobbing ROCKETS and hiding like the slime they are behind women and children and do a ‘once-through’ – kill or arrest all the attackers of ISRAEL!

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    • tzion
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:29pm

      @Jerk
      The only response is to blow up a bus? Not a checkpoint, a police station, or a government building but a bus? Suicide bombing of buses is a standard tactic and has been for over 20 years, before Israel was forced to build the security fence. And not just buses, but also outdoor markets, malls, restaurants, clubs, and schools. Notice a pattern? They all are designed to kill as many people as possible while interrupting people going about their business. How exactly was Israel supposed to respond? Cave to every demand and appease their enemies? Because that’s worked so well in the past, right?

      The facts are in Jerk. The barrier between Israel and Gaza had lead to an over 90% drop in suicide bombings and similar attacks. Simply put, if it’s not broken don’t fix it.

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    • upeopleneedtogetalife
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:50pm

      PATTY HENRY: Talk about being on the US Gov’ts tit… Come on Patty… No other Nation on earth has thrived like the Jewish Nation at the expense of the American tax payer.. They take our wealth and they steal our Military secrets.. They produce Nuclear bombs and are not beholden to anyone like we insist on Iran being.. Then they bomb civilians with the weapons they have either stolen or purchased from the US..

      If the Jews want to live in Peace then they should coniser a return to the Pale of Settlement.. Why should the Palestinians/Arabs sacrifice their lands so that European Jews can live like kings in a Jewish state while exploiting and murdering their the original occupiers?

      You and the Zionist like to quote your Bibles.. That’s fine. I understand that perspective; however, it’s wrong and you compltely neglect the fact that real people that were living there were rounded up caged and systematically relocated or even murdered.

      You people need to get a life and get off of the Jewish propaganda.. Seriously you are thoroughly deceived.. And you speak of a few million dollars going to the Palestinians while we’ve funded the Jews at least 3 Billion a year since 1947! They are debt free and we print money and give to them even to this day!!!

      Please woman! You’re insane!

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    • ofass
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 4:30pm

      Tzion, why do you engage arguing with Jerks? The guy is mentally disordered. He say exactly what Iran and Hamas are saying and the Nazis said. He actually did one thing positive – he caused a direct donation of $1450 to Israelis who got hit during this war. Not everything is black…..

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  • ColoradoMaverick
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:59am

    How does the uber-liberal media and the uber-stupid UN even look themselves in the mirror? Hamas is a terrorist organization, just like the rest of the Muslim world, they are hell bent on destroying Israel and the Western world and stupid, stupid liberals think they can somehow make peace with these killers through appeasement. How utterly stupid!! Barack Obama being re-elected triggered this because the jihadists know Obama hates Jews. Obama is a Jew hater and a racist.

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  • GrayPanther
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:57am

    Israel needs to remove the Gaza Strip. This Egypt -to- Israel tunnel will continue to kill Israelis until they totally depopulate Gaza and relocate them to Egypt or Jordan. Enough is enough.

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  • SquidVetOhio
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:57am

    Israel should claim that it got it’s intelligence of the whereabouts of these Hamas leaders from the Egyptian government.

    They could be like Samwise Gamgee in the Return of the King. Wait for all of the Orcs to kill each other, then clean up the rest.

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  • BlackCrow
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:54am

    These rats handed out candy in the hours after the 9/11 attacks. There is only one thing that can be done to ‘rehabilitate” a culture as eaten up with hate as Muslims are and that is to exterminate that culture.

    Accept Islam or die? Renounce Islam or die!

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  • Mr.Fitnah
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:44am

    We give the gaza animals so much money it makes me proud to be an amerikan.

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  • ambrosia
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:34am

    These are the evil pigs Oblameo, Clinton
    & the rest of the hard-headed morons
    are continuing
    to support, defend, tame & treat with velvet gloves,
    filled with American taxpayers’ money.

    Not a single American dime should roll into their bloody pockets.

    It all ends up feeding their terror appetite-
    not the Palestinian people, as they’d like one to believe.

    We saw what happened during Arafat’s reign-
    billions of American dollars got deposited into his personal bank accounts.
    It is no wonder,
    they are so bold & brazen, they’ve been spoon-fed
    & coddled to NO end.
    END American support NOW !

    The Hamas, Hezbollah & iranian thugs
    do not JUST want Gaza & Jerusalem-
    they want to wipe Israel off the face of the map.

    The poor, decent Palestinian people who suffered under their rule,
    who just want to raise their families & co-exist, peacefully with Israel
    have NO say in the matter.

    They are treated better & more humanely by the Israelis, than Hamas.
    They benefit from NONE of our support-
    ALL the ducks and dollars line up, in the pockets of the terrorists in charge.
    That tells you how much they care about their own people.

    Americans must demand the U.S. cut their funding to zip, zero, nada.
    Their ONLY goal is to destroy Israel & western civilization-
    let them continue their craziness on someone else’s dime.

    Oblameo is cockily complicit in Hamas’ insanity.
    The world will be FOREVER changed by his presence-
    for the worse !

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  • Alaskan Fox
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:24am

    Wow! The liberal media should also show all the times that Israelis celebrated the death of Palestines. Oh, wait they don’t! At least, the liberal media who try to demonize Israel haven’t been able to show any. (I havn’t seen any!) This shows a horrible difference in attitude! Israelis just want to defend themselves. They don’t seem to take the same joy that Palestinians do in killing another human being.

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    • Capt_Gregg
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:58am

      Both the US and the UN have condemned the bombing of the bus. Whoopie s**t! That’ll stop ‘em! I’d like the Israeli govt to announce that the air force will drop 10 1,000 pound bombs at random on Palastine neighborhoods for every bomb or rocket Hamas deploys.

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    • upeopleneedtogetalife
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:02pm

      Capt_Gregg: No remorse for the Arab and Christian wome and children slaughtered by the Jews there Rebel?

      I bet you the Jews pass out theire candy behind closed doors after harvesting the organs.. What do you think?

      You do know that they are on record as to confessing to harvesting Palestinian oragans right? Who knows maybe that’s where the Rabbis in NJ were getting their organs from?

      Can we discuss that on the Blaze or is that anti Semite? That’s probably an area in whic the Jewish media and their zionist shills would rather everyone be very queit about… Like the European slave trade which thrives in Israel…

      Those Jews really love their European women even in they do consider them to be mere cattle… lol

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    • Capt_Gregg
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 2:08pm

      @getalife
      You’re an imbecelic a$$.

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    • upeopleneedtogetalife
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 3:08pm

      Capt_Gregg
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 2:08pm
      @getalife
      You’re an imbecelic a$$.

      Indeed. And unfortunately there are an awful lot of ignorant and deceived a$$e$ on this site.

      Report this comment

      upeopleneedtogetalife  
    • Annapurna
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 3:31pm

      @getalife and @jerk….look no further than the mirror for the “imbecilic a$$es on this site. TROLLS get back under your bridge…in hell.

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      Annapurna  
  • may40
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:23am

    Perfect!

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  • jackact
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:50am

    Meanwhile within the safe confines of the USA American Jews, who make up a large party of the democratic party, are in a 60% majority of siding with…….Palestinians???
    The very same party that had to call an emergency vote in the minutes before the democratic convention to decide if GOD would be including in the preceedings
    Reason for concern?
    Hell no, history has yet to write the chapter of the total failure, in America, of rabid state controlled progressivism.
    But it’s coming.
    Bet on it.

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  • Stuck_in_CA
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:40am

    Sweets for the sweets…….Those evil, evil b@$+@rd$

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  • iac
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:30am

    Terrorist, LOL ?
    The bus was blown up as result of a protest went arie !
    The fact that there are cameras all around the bus PROVE a movie was being shot.
    This will be my position on this matter till apx Dec 3, 2012. Thank You.

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    • dutchy
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:39am

      Hamas claimed responsibility, no laughing matter!

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:52am

      @DUTCHY

      Neither are 4 dead Americans that were killed by terrorists. Our president not only knew it, but lied about it to help himself get re-elected.

      I believe that was the point he was making. Nobody but liberals find bombing Jews funny.

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  • RougeFastFingers
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:25am

    The Muslims will never accept the two state solution because the west always intervenes and does notpunish them for this kind of behavior.

    They should settle this themselves without outsiders or it will never end.

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    • Advection
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:20am

      Hamas commit war crimes as a matter of course, but they’re never called to account.

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    • NOTAMUSHROOM
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:22am

      Ahem. Rouge, the only way it will be “finished” for the Muslims, is when the Little Satan is wiped off the map. Get it?

      Israel needs to drop a nuke on those evil savages.

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    • DivisionByZero
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:11am

      Don’t fall for the naritive that there can be some peaceful solution to this mess. Most Muslims don’t want peace. They never have and never will. Peace for them would be the Nazi solution of total Jewish destruction.

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  • karen162
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:10am

    I too, am wary of any, “truce”. In he past, truces have been deadly for Israel, as Israel is watched like a hawk and Hamas simply rearms. You know they are out of ammo when they ask for a truce.

    But if the world does not see after yesterdays, “executions” of random civilians in Gaza under the guise of spys for Israel, and then today with the bus bombing and the celebrations that these are absolutely ruthless people, then their hatred is more comfortable to them than the truth. Very sad. God protect Israel!

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  • burke
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:58am

    Time for Israel to start at one end of the Gaza strip & plow all the way thru to the sea, killing everything in site, only this will send the message to the frekin muslims that they need to get.

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  • dave_ct
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:57am

    Israel should fire a missile filled with pork fat onto a Muslim cemetery

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    • DadRocked
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:59am

      Until now, I have not heard anyone recommend this. I have said it since 9/11/01 only in a different way.
      Instead of only bombs, drop crates of pigs and hogs. Let them eat everything and eventually one would have no choice but to ask for mercy.

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  • ginjit.dw
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:55am

    It’s time to level the playing field….literally…..

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  • RJJinGadsden
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:54am

    Israeli authorities should just leak false information that essentially points fingers at certain groups of potentially dangerous Palestinians claiming that they are collaborators. Then sit back and let the paranoia do the work.

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  • dave_ct
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:52am

    It’s time for Mr. Netanyahu to rid Israel of the Hamas terrorist problem, once and for all!

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  • mycomet123
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:51am

    What I fear for Israel is that when all is said & done, the only offer that will be made to them by the global community of the United Nations (the new world order) is to return to their previous borders. I love the Jewish people because they are the chosen people of God & they are Jesus’s physical family. Of all the races in the world God chose them for His Son. Personnally it breaks my heart because they don’t know Him & I feel that the only connection they have with Him right now is He’s a tourist attraction & commerce!! My only comfort in all Israel & palestine ( who are nothing more than pawns) is that they will finally get to truly KNOW Him & how truly AWESOME JESUS IS!!!!!!! (Zechariah 14:9, Revelation 11:15).

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  • Dagnabbit5
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:51am

    Waiting for The Jerk to show up and rationalize this.

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    • Bookster
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:16am

      The Jerk show doesn’t wake up until around 1:00 in the afternoon. Then they need to ask for mom’s permission to use the computer and that involves the intolerable task of climbing up the basement stairs first.

      Liberalism is a mental disorder.
      Progressives are a virus.
      Democrats are Godless.
      MSNBC = Hell’s webcam.

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  • dave_ct
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:50am

    Time for Mr. Netanyahu to rid Israel of the Hamas terrorist problem once and for all!

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  • NoMoMrNiceGuy
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:48am

    Turn the Savage 15th century good for nothings into glass !

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  • GUYFROMMAINE
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:41am

    OK, MSM, when will you be interviewing a “Palestinian” leader asking them if targeting civilans is right and necessary? When will you ask them if this is excessive force? When will you ask them if the 6 “spies” should have received a fair trial? MSM??? I’m waiting.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:11am

      @GUYFROMMAINE
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:41am

      OK, MSM, when will you be interviewing a “Palestinian” leader asking them if targeting civilans is right and necessary? When will you ask them if this is excessive force? When will you ask them if the 6 “spies” should have received a fair trial? MSM??? I’m waiting
      ***
      Hope you’ve got a big stack of crossword puzzle books to pass the time while you wait! Maybe even a couple packing crates full….Oh well, you can always go online while you wait.

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  • GO-FOR-LIBERTY
    Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:15am

    Time for a truce! /S

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    • GuruMeditation
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:37am

      No. Rather it’s time to light Hamas up.

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    • GlezeleVayne
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:39am

      Truce = reload for Hamas.

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    • dutchy
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:50am

      How do you make a truce with a terrorist organization? “Peace will happen when “they hate the Jews less than they love their own children!”, a famous quote by Golda Meir. Profound statement. God bless Israel.

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      dutchy  
    • circleDwagons
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:26am

      Time for fire. If a people ( any group) can not govern themselfs then they are lost. Let the purifing fire begin. Liberty lost, we should continue to Pray. Love hurts

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:13am

      Go for liberty was being sarcastic.. hence the “/S”.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:16am

      @circleDwagons
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:26am

      Time for fire. If a people ( any group) can not govern themselfs then they are lost. Let the purifing fire begin. Liberty lost, we should continue to Pray. Love hurts
      ****
      You forget the “Lore of Islam” in that when the earth heats up to a certain temperature (caused by a nuclear holocaust) the 12th imam will make his appearance to return the rule of the ottoman empire. What you’re asking for, is what adman&jab is desperately working to achieve.

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    • twistin
      Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:55am

      I noted the (S), but,,,,,,

      Since when, in a fight to the death, is there such a thing as a truce?

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