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‘F** Pimp,’ ‘Filthy Pervert!’: Westboro Clashes With Gay Men on Set of Russell Brand’s TV Show

Nov. 21, 2012 8:31am Billy Hallowell

Russell Brand is known for many things. Actor. Comedian. Talk show host. Husband (for a brief time) to singer Katy Perry. The list goes on. Recently, the entertainer invited two controversial individuals to appear on his FX show, “Brand X” — Westboro Baptist Church’s Steve Drain and Tim Phelps (founder Fred Phelps’ son).

Russell Brand with Westboro’s Steve Drain (Photo Credit: YouTube)

Donning a shirt that read, “PriestsRapeBoys.com,” Drain launched right into Brand, calling him “an advocate for sin.” Phelps, too, had little positive to say about the host.

The two Westboro members brought with them one of the infamous posters (they frequently use offensive, anti-gay messaging at protests). The sign featured an image of brand with flames behind him and the words, “F** Pimp Brand.”

Brand holds up the sign made for him by Westboro (Photo Credit: YouTube)

“You make your living making a mockery of sin,” Phelps told Brand, going on to speak directly to the audience. ”In fact, since you promote sin, you hate all these kind people in your heart. That’s why he applauds your sins — because he hates you all.”

Brand attempted to defend himself, while also listening intently. It didn’t take long for the Westboro congregants to issue their famous line: “God hates f**s.” When the audience reacted and some spoke out against the men, Brand quipped, ”One at a time. You will all get a chance to speak — in hell!”

Gay men clash with Westboro on Brand’s FX show (Photo Credit: FX/YouTube)

The situation became particularly intense when Brand brought three gay men onto the stage. Drain and Phelps quickly clashed with them, with the latter yelling, “You’re a filthy pervert!” One of the men attempted to explain that, despite his sexuality, he is a Christian.

In the end, Brand attempted to debunk the men’s tactics, claiming that Jesus’ message wasn’t one of hate; instead, he dubbed it one of ”tolerance and love and truth and beauty and acceptance.”

Watch the chaotic clip, below:

(H/T: Gawker)

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...sam
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:50am
There are alot of people here stating what God wants or does not want..a couple of things come to mind. 1. How do you know what the true motive of God is?? 2. There is alot of stone tossing. History is plain….what happens to a society that embraces homosexuality…are they successful?

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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:35pm
  “1. How do you know what the true motive of God is?”
  
  He wrote a best-selling book telling us. Nothing in that book matches what these WBC clowns say.
  
  Jesus said “I have done nothing in secret”. I don’t believe God’s general will for us is a mystery. Jesus summed it up to the rich man.
  
  1. Love the Lord you God will all your heart, strength and mind.
  
  2. The second is likened unto the first, Love your neighbor as thyself.
  
  All the rest is details that are between you and God.
  
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- Jesse_J
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:36pm
  I agree Sam, and there is nothing more to say. Read fresh political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:36pm
  And to clarify number 1, remember Jesus said, “If you love me, keep my commandments”.
  
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- ...sam
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 2:23pm
  @ squidvetohio My point is this.. allthough the Bible in (my view) should be taken literaly.we. as not perfect, sinners need to take heed in the fact that we are not to liken ourselves to God/Christ…when we quote scripture to push or combat an agenda we risk insult to the word of God…there are many ways to skin a cat…so I repeat what does happen to a society that embraces homosexuality…do they flourish or fail?
  
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- ZengaPA65
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:28pm
  These guys are doing what they’re supposed to. The truth always makes people angry. Look at how angry they get when someone points out the fact that Limbaugh and Beck are shills for the GOP.
  
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Publius V
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:39am
More hard hitting “news” from The Blaze. Things are going down hill fast at The Blaze. Why give this crap any visibility?

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- RSHLUVER
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:58pm
  Agreed . I don’t watch Russell Brand. He mocks George W Bush and conservatives.
  
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Mustanger
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:08am
Hate the sin but love the sinner. I work with a few guys and girls that are gay. They know my beliefs and started to be confrontational, telling me how I should act toward them. I didn’t bite, in stead I have been able to show then I’m a Christian through my actions and deeds. We’ve had some good conversations. This opens them up to being saved. I’m tilling the soil so to say. Have I got anyone to church? No, it could be for someone who comes after me.
These WBC clowns are running a scam, they play both angles. They did bring people together through Patriot Guard, and others. So they may be here to unite us, who knows?

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- NeoFan
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:28am
  I seriously doubt that God needs or wants thugs to defend his commandments. You either follow them or you don’t. The WBC does not because they spend their time baring false witness against the children of God.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:31pm
  These WBC guys are about as christian as the FEMEN lesbians protesting naked in France. You can be firm against sin without being outright hateful. Look at Jesus’ handling of Mary (the harlot). He was kind, forgiving and compassionate but after He saved her life He told her “Go and sin no more”.
  
  “Judgement begins at the house of God.” These guys are in for a big surprise.
  
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- DeathRattle
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 1:50pm
  @Mustang
  
  Keep up the good work brother, you are doing well.
  
  WBC shouldn’t call themselves “Christian” they are not and will find out one day.
  
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JEANNIEMAC
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:51am
Jesus said to the woman caught in the act of adultery: “Go, AND SIN NO MORE”
In the Bible, homosexuality is referred to as an abomination. And, homosexuals will “suffer in their bodies the recompense for their deeds”. AIDS may not be so new.

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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:19am
  “And, homosexuals will “suffer in their bodies the recompense for their deeds”. AIDS may not be so new.”
  
  Not only gays have AIDS, I hope you realize. And in fact, lesbians are the demographic with the lowest HIV rates worldwide. Saying AIDS is a punishment for being gay is like saying sickle-cell anemia is a punishment for being black or Tay-Sachs is a Jewish punishment.
  
  I had a friend who got HIV from a blood transfusion in the 1980s, and suffered the shame as everyone assumed he was gay ever since (unfortunately he died in the 1990s). Hard to believe it’s been almost 30 years since then and some people still think AIDS is a “gay disease” or some plague from God to kill only sodomites. Some folks just have anger in their hearts, I suppose.
  
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- athiest-infedel
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:17pm
  I find it funny when I here we live by the new covenant until it comes to gays then christians quote the old testament, jesus never said anything about homosexuals, aids a gay curse, that is just as dumb as imams saying earthquakes are caused by allah as punishment. These westies are morons.
  
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- hardiepiper
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 1:28pm
  @ Athiest – New Testament
  
  For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; – Romans 1:26-28
  
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hauschild
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:37am
Hate the sin, but love the sinner.

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- Gold Coin & Economic News
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:51am
  This story isn’t even worth commenting on. Why even give these people a voice? There are a lot more serious things to worry about that these fools, such as the fools that voted for Obama, that’s something to actually be concerned about:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeAzwJ31-jg
  
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dndcrazy
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:10am
“Priest rape boys shirts” and “*** signs” are not the way to approach people. These guys are wrong.

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- JRook
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:38am
  The only thing stupider than the Westboro group is the web site that gives them any attention at all. Particularly for the purpose of providing an “edgy” report.
  
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00100111
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:58am
I see all the usual atheists are on here fapping to this.

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- DeavonReye
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:15am
  “fapping”? Was that an error in your spelling, or an actual word?
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:47am
  It’s an actual word. I recommend using a high Safe Search filter if you’re going to look it up online ;-)
  
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- DeavonReye
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:58am
  I think I will let it go by. Tried it on dictionary.com and it didn’t bring up any results. I’ll just keep in the dark about that word, I guess.
  
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- deeberj
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:15am
  I found the meaning in seconds. It means male mas. turb. ation.
  
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- DeavonReye
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:26am
  Oh. Figures. Some people really need to be less fixated on human sexuality.
  
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TheCalvinistPastor
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:58am
This is prob. what the Corinthian Church in the first Century looked like when it was divided, lol. Neither side representing God at all

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Cavallo
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:31am
Lowest common denominator crap. Why give either of these people attention they so desperately crave.

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- Gold Coin & Economic News
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:03am
  Why we even give these people a voice is beyond me? It just serves to make all Christians look like fools and makes the uneducated think all Christians act like this, THEY DON’T!
  
  Why aren’t we concentrating on the fools that elected Obama because they thought he gave them a free phone?
  http://www.isthatbaloney.com/are-we-now-a-nation-of-takers-or-makers-what-are-your-thoughts/
  
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- stevetherealist
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:29am
  the free phone program was started in 1984 under Reagan then advanced by Bush in 2008 but why let the facts get in your way.
  
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- Gold Coin & Economic News
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:47am
  @stevetherealist I know that, I know when the free phone gig was started, BUT one thing you liberals don’t want to look at is facts. Here are 2, you can count that high can’t you?
  
  1. There were no cell phones when Reagan was President.
  2. Regardless of WHEN the program started, this woman THINKS Obama gave her the phone and that’s why she voted for him.
  
  That’s the reality of why these people voted for Obama. Care to refute that?
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:48am
  Technically it was advanced by several presidents. Bush Jr. was just the one who expanded it to allow for cell phones.
  
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- deeberj
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:14am
  Steve, the program was greatly expande din 1996 under Clinton. In 2008 we spend 819 billion on these free phones. In 2010 we went up to 1 billion. I don’t know what it is now.
  
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Dushman Kush
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:18am
The Log Cabin “Republicans” have been promoting Queerdom for years. It stuns all the Comrades that one of Comrade Gore’s supporters would attempt to usurp the Republican/Capitalist Dominance over America’s youth. Where are the “Catholic Priests” and the “Boy Scout Leaders” when the country needs them?

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- BlasberryStrat
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:56am
  Why….they are all in your cabin having smore’s mate. Better hurry home…they’re waiting for a group wank.
  
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- themachinist239
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:58am
  One is too busy with the other.
  
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taintso
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:08am
Once the useful gay idiots and other left complete their push for Socialism, they will become useless burdens for the Communist Government that will follow. And they will no longer have the Freedom to run back to their closets they will be exterminated.

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- stevetherealist
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:18am
  and once you get mental help all those wacked out thoughts might go away
  
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- Dushman Kush
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:33am
  You are on point, Comrade. Thanks to our affiliation with the Muslim Brotherhood, our most pressing social problems will be handled. Long Live the Communist International !!!
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:37am
  Just to check, your reasoning is “gays should be happy they don’t have equal marriage rights now, because if they get equal rights the next step is wholesale extermination?”
  
  That’s… er, many things. Almost all of them relating somehow to insulting your intelligence or questioning your mental state. I don’t believe gay marriage is biblical, but I also don’t think that the slippery slope goes “Gays get married –> Gays get exterminated.”
  
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- shorelineliz
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:49am
  What is interesting in the annals of history is that if you study social trends often political parties use different issues to further their agendas. what if Sharia Law does get its way in America? It does spell death for gays if implemented. What if Communism does take hold?Historically everyone is a target of the State. So, in your round about way you have spoken factually about what we already know. Government uses issues and everyone can be a target to further that agenda. In the history of atheism/communism millions die. Just the facts. Dude.
  
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- deeberj
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:06am
  Yes, this is what always happens when communists take over.
  
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WellRegulatedMilitia
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:03am
Is it Ironic that Russell Brand looks a little like Jesus?

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- RRFlyer
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:12am
  So, how many real photos of Jesus have you seen?
  
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- DeavonReye
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:26am
  Yeah, you should say, “he looks like the normally portrayed ‘Jesus’ in movies or plays”.
  
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- THX-1138
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:35am
  White Jesus. Everybody knows Jesus was Black, right?
  
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- Dushman Kush
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:40am
  No, Comrade, Russell knows what time it is…..
  
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- shorelineliz
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:46am
  Perhaps. But He is more of a St. Peter or St. Paul. He might be able to pass for St. Andrew too.
  
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- BlasberryStrat
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:03am
  I was thinking he looks like Jesus too. After all, you can’t deny that being British and Presbyterian….he CAN walk on water.
  
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- deeberj
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:05am
  Yes, he looks like the caucasion Jesus. Not the Jesus who was a Jew before the diaspora, so he probably looked like someone living in the desert in Afghnistan.
  
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- IndyGuy
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 8:49pm
  WellRegulatedMilitia writes: “Is it Ironic that Russell Brand looks a little like Jesus?”…..Carve a swastika in Brand’s forehead and you have Charlie Manson…
  
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DeavonReye
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:01am
Accept for the harsh name calling, it seems that most of what the two WBC guys said was biblical. They seemed much more tame than Phelps’s daughter who is usually angry and combative. I think these two guys did a pretty good job, considering the platform they were invited to.

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- encinom
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:06am
  Another bigot hiding behind the bible to justify their bigotry. More proof that Westboro expresses the views that many on the far right are to afraid to say out loud.
  
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- DeavonReye
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:13am
  Encinom, are you talking about the WBC guys being bigots?
  
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jeanr
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:01am
Can’t wait to see if the conservatives here understand irony…Or just do what they always do; support a group/person/idea when it fits their ideology and then demean them when they don’t. Also see: Chris Christie, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, John McCain, Patriot Act

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- John Moser2
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:12am
  It’s ironic that you think you know what irony is. Irony is a metrosexual Democrat hatemonger inviting other Democrat hatemongers on his program and pretending he is better.
  
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- qpwillie
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:16am
  @jeanr
  What conservatives? The whole family are registered Democrats. Fred Phelps, the patriarch of the family has five times been a candidate for political office (including Governer) in Kansas Democratic Party primaries. Fred Phelps Jr., hosted a Gore fundraiser at his home in Topeka and was a Gore delegate to the 1988 Democratic National Convention.
  
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- Dushman Kush
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:30am
  Willie should be reported……Rev. Phelps and Comrade Gore are on the exact same team. Glenn Beck and the two of them are on the exact same team. These three Comrades are assisting our Leader in His endeavor to bring “fundamental change” to America. Many thanks this Thanksgiving Day Eve to our Benefactor and Comrade Glenn Beck, the only Patriot who has not misled the public regarding the goals and achievements of the Communist International. Long Live Comrade Glenn Beck !!!
  
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- jeanr
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:46am
  I have no idea what the Phelps are. I meant the conservatives on here. They hate WBC for protesting at military funerals and call them crazy. But here they line up with conservative thinking. I am just curious how conservatives will react to these “crazy” people and their crazy thoughts, like gays are sinners.
  
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- jeanr
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:49am
  John, I am neither a Demoncrap or a Repukelican. How anybody can say that either of the 2 parties represents them is beyond me. I would hope that most people have more sophisticated and complex thoughts than to blindly follow one party or another. Otherwise, though, you described me to a tee. Well done!
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:00am
  “John, I am neither a Demoncrap or a Repukelican.”…
  
  One thing’s for sure, you’re a 12 yr old.
  
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- qpwillie
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:15am
  @jeanr
  No true conservative would ever think of protesting a funeral regardless of who the funeral was for. Also, no true believer in the Bible would rejoice over the idea of anybody being eternally condemned.
  
  I get the feeling that you could never accept the idea that there could possibly be something greater than yourself.
  
  I personally believe that anybody who has the ability to think clearly would come to the conclusion that an intelligent first cause (As described in the Bible) created all things. I don’t believe that anybody would be condemned to burn alive in unimaginable torment for eternity as punishment for a hundred years of sin and I don’t believe the Bible implies any such notion.
  
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- jeanr
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:16am
  And you’re the reason that traveling carnivals and Brad Paisley make a profit in this country.
  
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- jeanr
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:41am
  Actually Willie, you have it completely backwards. I see the right-wing conservative as the one who sees nothing bigger then himself. Hence their “I built this without the help of anything or anybody” attitude and their resistance to helping the less prosperous. I am not rich and I am not a churchgoer. But I help others the best that I can and I try to do the right thing most of the time, even though I fail often. I do this not because my invisible creator is watching me from above and will condemn me if I cross him. I do it because I see myself as part of a larger society that I am only a small part of. But I have to work to try to improve that society in the small ways that I can. I treat others with kindness and respect and help when I can. I see us all as part of this society and why I treat others as equal, no matter how different their lifestyle choices may be from mine.
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:32pm
  Jeanr
  You should go westboro. Then, you have your true name told you. I don’t blame westboro by calling you that. I call you the same way. lol
  
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- Jeetman
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 1:51pm
  @JeanR You see yourself as a small part of a whole? That is collectivism. That thinking leads to accepting communism. If you don’t believe in a creator, then why should you have any rights at all according to our country’s founding principal laid out in the Declaration of Independence:
  
  We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
  
  If you don’t believe in a creator, then your rights come from man and with the belief that you are just part of a whole, you open yourself to slavery. The reason our founding fathers believed in INDIVIDUAL rights is because if you are not self-reliant then you must rely on others to take care of you. Conservatives know this l i b t a r d s can’t seem to grasp this. Unfortunately it appears that the country has been brainwashed by the commies and we conservatives now find ourselves out numbered. It is so hard for me to accept that Americans have been so dumbed down that they forgotten why our country is different from all others and worse, have been so blinded by evil that they can’t even apply simple common sense. People like you confound me.
  
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- jeanr
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 2:31pm
  Thank goodness we had those rights from a creator so that nothing as evil as slavery ever happened in the United States.
  
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- jeanr
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 2:40pm
  And of course I am not self-reliant. I depended on my family to raise and take care of me until adulthood. I depend on farmers to make my food, the military to protect me from foreign enemies, NASA to create the technology I enjoy, teachers to educate my children, public roads to allow me to travel, regulators that protect my consumer and worker rights, and so forth. And I try to help others where I can. Of course I take precautions to protect and prepare my family in the event of emergency or catastrophe, but to believe one is “self-reliant” is to display a stunning amount of ego and lack of intellect.
  
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- wowjustwow
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 6:07pm
  Hey JeanR – keep helping people when you can and thank you for pointing out that ALL of us have had help in some way in our lives. Most people here are just lonely people trying to make a reality out of an ideology. When something is said that blows holes in their claim to living their ideology, they go nuts. They are all such individuals (chyeah?!); yet, I’ve never seen the words “we” and “us” used so consistently anywhere.
  
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BurntHills
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:58am
Brand had pro-Israel Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs on and he ambushed her horribly, saying vile things about her and calling her filthy vile names and being all pro-HAMAS and anti-Israel right in her face, and actually pawed her and wanted kisses and hugs before he would “let” her leave the stage, he’s nothing more than an animal that should be put down, but America is now upside down and the obama worshippers are driving the nation into celebrating degeneracies and depravities America has never seen before. .

THE 45 DECLARED GOALS of the COMMUNIST TAKEOVER OF AMERICA:
#26: promote homosexuality and degeneracy and promiscuity as ‘normal’.

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- shorelineliz
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:51am
  If you are stupid enough to go on Russell Brand’s Show you get what you deserve.
  
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stevetherealist
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:57am
evertime I read A story about these wb clowns God tells me that if I get close enough to one of them..Knock them the f out.

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- jeanr
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:05am
  God must want you to get sued for everything that you have too, then. You know they are all lawyers, right? They fund their church through litigation. So, go ahead and do it, but you will be promoting them…Which may be why God is telling you to do it.
  
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- stevetherealist
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:21am
  they would have to catch and identify me first…God also told me to run.
  
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- Dushman Kush
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:38am
  “God” must want you to get KTFO……
  
  Our Benefactor and Comrade Glenn Beck doesn’t require that infidels populate his Site….
  
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- stevetherealist
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:37am
  doucheman, our benefactor, comrad, and infidel…? you sound like a commie. and your defending the indefensible. This is a Free country, remember?
  
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- Dushman Kush
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:12am
  Comrade, always we can count on you to keep it real….
  
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tommy.tommy
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:53am
The word “***” is not a nasty word at all or to say the word in public. I could care less. If they call me “bigot?” That was made up by the News media, internet, and evil Obama. I call gay men and gay women “f*gs” Which it’s not a sin. lol

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- jeanr
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:02am
  I agree, except that that’s what I call religious people.
  
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- Dushman Kush
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:21am
  Tommy Twice, you are a true Comrade. Which Cell?
  
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- TAC616
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:53am
  TOMMY:
  Do you get punched alot, or is it just never to their faces?
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:18pm
  Dushman.
  I know, the filthy catholics, and the filthy atheists accepts your filthy homosexual kind. But true Christians? You’re abomination to me.
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:28pm
  Tac616
  I don’t blame…. Westboro by calling your true name. I would call you the same way. lol
  
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Chris.underhill
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:52am
if this does not confuse you of who god is, i don’t know what will.. Look God does love every one regardless of what gender you find attractive. god wants what makes us happy not sad.

lol to tell some one they are going to hell for loving is a double standard that i am 100% god does not stand for.
For me i know whats in my heart.i know god loves me for who i am, what i stand for end of story. If a man loves another man and a woman loves another woman how is that not love?
People need to wake up and see just how much hate they are throwing at the expanse of some one else to try to help make them self comfortable, and that is not what god is for or about.

by the way did you see who god was working through in this and who the devil was working though?

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- Landon410
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:05am
  you need to be careful, God does love you, however should you “love” another man, God does not accept your sin, God does not love you sin, God hates your sin
  
  what God does do is continue to love you, and I’ve stated that westboro people are in stark contrast to God in this, however God loving you does not mean he accepts your sin or wants you to be happy in your sin
  
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- pagraywolf
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:23am
  “god wants what makes us happy not sad.”
  
  Not Biblical – that would say God blesses rape, after all, it makes a rapist happy when he rapes. How about the heroin dealer selling dope to your 15 year old child? It makes the dealer happy to make money from the destruction of your child. And let us not forget the child molester, who is happiest molesting and raping a 4 year old! The Bible tells us homosexuality is a sin. Period. No way around it.
  
  “lol to tell some one they are going to hell for loving is a double standard that i am 100% god does not stand for.”
  
  Again, not Biblical. Loving sin is not blessed by God.
  
  I don’t agree with this Westboro church in their tactics. As Bible believing Christians, we should stand against sin, but I think their tactics aren’t blessed by God Almighty.
  
  Hate the sin, not the sinner.
  
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- Shamrock241
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:32am
  With your crazy logic if Ted Bundy truely felt in his heart that the purest way to love a woman was to kill her i guess god would pass him on thru those pearly gate’s.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:18am
  I’m firmly in the camp of “gay marriage is in no way biblical,” but a lot of the statements here are insane. We’ve just had two consenting adults marrying each other compared to rape, pedophilia, drug addiction, and murder.
  
  One of these things is not like the other, and the difference is “consenting adults.” You could also argue that gays marrying don’t harm anyone (which is true), whereas all these other examples explicitly harm one of the parties involved.
  
  Come on guys, God gave us brains. Use them and stop making these idiotic comparisons.
  
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- deeberj
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:56am
  “god wants what makes us happy not sad.”
  
  God wants what? I really would like to know where this is in the bible. Because if it’s in there, then why as a Christian should I bother to do anything unless it makes me happy. In the bible we are urged to do and be many things as Christians and one thing I don’t remember being mentioned is to make sure I’m happy because that’s what God wants.
  
  Were the sodomites in Sodom and Gormorrah happy with what they were doing? In your mind if they were then God wanted them continuing in their perverted lifestyles. I guess it was a mistake when He basically nuked them. Was David happy when he killed Uriah so he could have Bathsheba for himself? In your mind if he was then God wanted that for David. Yep, killing someone to get their wife is just fine in your book, as long as it makes him happy. Twisted theology.
  
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- deeberj
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:01am
  Locked, you said “We’ve just had two consenting adults marrying each other compared to rape, pedophilia, drug addiction, and murder.”
  
  Haven’t you ever been taught about logic? C’mon, you didn’t have any classes in school about it? How about debating. You never learned how to debate? Can you make a reasoned argument?
  
  We were taking the argument of “God wants us to be happy” and carrying that thought out to the logical extreme. We are not actually comparing men marrying each other to murder. Like it’s the same as murder in society’s eyes. WE are saying that both are sins and God does not like sin. Period. I don’t care if it’s murder or gossip. It’s sin and like I said, He doesn’t like sin.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:29am
  @Deeberj
  
  “Haven’t you ever been taught about logic?”
  
  Have you? The situations are nowhere near logical equivalents. If you wanted a logically equivalent sin, why not mention adultery? It still involves two consenting adults, but is unbiblical. No one (at least in that pair) gets hurt or takes advantage of the other person. Sure, the example fails a little bit as there is at least a third party (if not a fourth, assuming both adulterers are married), but it’s closer than saying “Gay marriage is like giving a 15 year old drugs and getting her addicted to them.”
  
  Here’s an even better one. Actually, probably one of the best. Remarriage after a divorce. Blanket ban on it, as per Jesus’s own words in the Bible. Yet society as a whole is largely ok with it. Many churches (non-Catholic) allow it. But it is undeniably a sin. Jesus never spoke about gay marriage, but He certainly spoke about the sin of remarriage following a divorce. (Thinking about it, even divorce would be a closer equivalent than adultery, because divorce is also forbidden except in the case of infidelity).
  
  Yet instead we see gay marriage compared to murder, rape, and pedophilia, when they are all vastly inferior comparisons when using logic. Why not remarriage? Could it be because 50% of Americans get divorced at least once, and most of them remarry at some point?
  
  Some food for thought :-)
  
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- Landon410
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:46am
  @locked
  “@Deeberj
  
  “Haven’t you ever been taught about logic?”
  
  Have you? The situations are nowhere near logical equivalents. ” I stop reading at this point because you’ve already made yourself out to be an idiot by not udnerstanding what is being discussed
  
  did you read what you responded to? that is what he said….. the point is they are all sin, and the comment that started everything was “God just wants us to be happy”, we were pointing out how ill informed and dangerous of a comment it was, because while God does want us to be happy, God hates sin, and according to the bible, sin is sin, and all sins all equal except for the 1 unpardonable sin of not accepting God.
  so biblical speaking murder, being gay, rape, white lie….. same thing
  
  so back to the “logic” comments, you lose
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 2:12pm
  @Landon
  
  Every sin is NOT equivalent. The bible specifically states this, and other denominations have their own terms (see the idea of “mortal” versus “venal” sin in Catholicism, for example).
  
  By your reasoning, if you tell a lie you are killing someone. There’s no logic in that. See, when I asked if Deeber understood logic it’s because there are degrees of validity to logic when it comes to examples. Saying that lying is like murder, for example, is less logical than saying lying is like gossiping. Why? Because gossip and lying does not necessarily mean you’re harming another; because they have to do with words, not physical harm; because murder precludes all chance of redemption for the other party.
  
  Can you see why it’s not a good, logical comparison?
  
  If you can’t… well, I suggest doing as Deeber suggests, and taking classes in logic and debate :-)
  
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biohazard23
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:51am
Russell who?

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- THX-1138
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:07am
  He was in “Get Him To The Greek” and the remake of “Arthur”. I don’t generally like remakes but it was pretty good. Funny guy, very positive attitude.
  
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IndyGuy
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:50am
You can bet Brand had the chairs screwed to the floor before this show…

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Locked
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:49am
I don’t care for Brand, but I care for Westboro even less. At least Brand doesn’t pretend to be Christian (if I recall correctly, he converted to Hinduism?)

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- Gonzo
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:53pm
  I’m no fan of either myself, but if Jesus’ message was one of ”tolerance and love and truth and beauty and acceptance.” I doubt they would have wanted him dead so badly. He had one message only… truth and the pharisees didn’t like it much.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 2:13pm
  Well said, Gonzo!
  
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KickinBack
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:44am
What is this, Springer 2.0? Looks like Russell (who?) must be hurting for ratings…

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- TMOverbeck
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:36am
  Looks to me like he’s trying to be the new Morton Downey Jr.
  
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Landon410
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:44am
Jesus accepted sinners but never the sin, and its clear that Jesus called people on their sin, told them to repent and not sin anymore…..

i do not like the westboro people, but i do like that they do not accept sin, CLEARLY they need to work on loving the sinner which is what Jesus did.

Look at examples from the Bible, Jesus met the woman at the well, pretty much told her she was a who’re and that she needs to not do it anymore, but he was nice to her, treated her as a person, while at the same time being direct about the sin…… westboro doesnt seem too good at the treating people like people thing…….

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- jeanr
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:03am
  And they pretty much think that EVERYTHING is a sin, including serving in the U.S. military. I had no idea you hated my country so much…Interesting.
  
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- Landon410
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:08am
  ha, you knew what i meant, but i’ll tag the razing for not being clearer
  
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- Pig.Pen
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:14am
  One big difference, between the woman at the well and modern day people: HE was Jesus, and you’re not. He knew the woman’s sins without her telling Him. Even still, Jesus often met with prostitutes, tax collectors (who were pretty unscrupulous) and even Pharisees (religious leaders who he reserved his harshest rebukes for). The Bible doesn’t detail him rebuking each of them, so it stands to reason he probably didn’t on every occasion.
  
  Instead, look at how Paul treated the people of Athens (Acts 17:22-31) who worshiped idols and even had an idol dedicated to “an unknown god.” He was kind and understanding, he even complemented them on being very religious. While Christians should stand against sin, especially in the church, we should stand against sin in our own lives and remember the greatest commandment is to love God and the second is to love our neighbor, not judge and condemn them.
  
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- Dushman Kush
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:46am
  Comrade Landon410, your sincerity is unquestioned. Let’s hope you experience Sufism prior to your Departure….
  
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Kupo
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:43am
Blaze, these WBC people are only after publicity, so by running this story you are playing right into their hands. The best way to treat this people is to completely ignore them. Just like ignoring a child throwing a temper tantrum, ignoring the WBC is the only way to get them to shut up.

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blanco5
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:37am
Hairy dude is NOT funny. I can’t believe he is considered a comedian.

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- stevetherealist
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:53am
  and thats what you get from this story???? sounds like you would fit right in over at the wb funny farm
  
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- WellRegulatedMilitia
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:02am
  Well duh, I’ve never seen a funny English comedian. Not one. Just different standard for humor I suppose.
  
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- THX-1138
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:34am
  @WellRegulatedMilitia
  
  Monty Pyton?
  Peter Sellers?
  
  Really?
  
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