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Gynecologists Call for Birth Control to Be Sold Over the Counter

Nov. 21, 2012 7:19am Billy Hallowell

WASHINGTON (AP) — No prescription or doctor’s exam needed: The nation’s largest group of obstetricians and gynecologists says birth control pills should be sold over the counter, like condoms.

Tuesday’s surprise opinion from these gatekeepers of contraception could boost longtime efforts by women’s advocates to make the pill more accessible.

But no one expects the pill to be sold without a prescription any time soon: A company would have to seek government permission first, and it’s not clear if any are considering it. Plus there are big questions about what such a move would mean for many women’s wallets if it were no longer covered by insurance.

Still, momentum may be building.

American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists: Birth Control Should Be Over the Counter

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Already, anyone 17 or older doesn’t need to see a doctor before buying the morning-after pill – a higher-dose version of regular birth control that can prevent pregnancy if taken shortly after unprotected sex. Earlier this year, the Food and Drug Administration held a meeting to gather ideas about how to sell regular oral contraceptives without a prescription, too.

Now the influential American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists is declaring it’s safe to sell the pill that way.

Wait, why would doctors who make money from women’s yearly visits for a birth-control prescription advocate giving that up?

Half of the nation’s pregnancies every year are unintended, a rate that hasn’t changed in 20 years – and easier access to birth control pills could help, said Dr. Kavita Nanda, an OB/GYN who co-authored the opinion for the doctors group.

“It’s unfortunate that in this country where we have all these contraceptive methods available, unintended pregnancy is still a major public health problem,” said Nanda, a scientist with the North Carolina nonprofit FHI 360, formerly known as Family Health International.

Many women have trouble affording a doctor’s visit, or getting an appointment in time when their pills are running low – which can lead to skipped doses, Nanda added.

If the pill didn’t require a prescription, women could “pick it up in the middle of the night if they run out,” she said. “It removes those types of barriers.”

Tuesday, the FDA said it was willing to meet with any company interested in making the pill nonprescription, to discuss what if any studies would be needed.

Then there’s the price question. The Obama administration’s new health care law requires FDA-approved contraceptives to be available without copays for women enrolled in most workplace health plans.

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If the pill were sold without a prescription, it wouldn’t be covered under that provision, just as condoms aren’t, said Health and Human Services spokesman Tait Sye.

ACOG’s opinion, published in the journal Obstetrics & Gynecology, says any move toward making the pill nonprescription should address that cost issue. Not all women are eligible for the free birth control provision, it noted, citing a recent survey that found young women and the uninsured pay an average of $16 per month’s supply.

The doctors group made clear that:

-Birth control pills are very safe. Blood clots, the main serious side effect, happen very rarely, and are a bigger threat during pregnancy and right after giving birth.

-Women can easily tell if they have risk factors, such as smoking or having a previous clot, and should avoid the pill.

-Other over-the-counter drugs are sold despite rare but serious side effects, such as stomach bleeding from aspirin and liver damage from acetaminophen.

-And there’s no need for a Pap smear or pelvic exam before using birth control pills. But women should be told to continue getting check-ups as needed, or if they’d like to discuss other forms of birth control such as implantable contraceptives that do require a physician’s involvement.

The group didn’t address teen use of contraception. Despite protests from reproductive health specialists, current U.S. policy requires girls younger than 17 to produce a prescription for the morning-after pill, meaning pharmacists must check customers’ ages. Presumably regular birth control pills would be treated the same way.

Prescription-only oral contraceptives have long been the rule in the U.S., Canada, Western Europe, Australia and a few other places, but many countries don’t require a prescription.

Switching isn’t a new idea. In Washington state a few years ago, a pilot project concluded that pharmacists successfully supplied women with a variety of hormonal contraceptives, including birth control pills, without a doctor’s involvement. The question was how to pay for it.

Some pharmacies in parts of London have a similar project under way, and a recent report from that country’s health officials concluded the program is working well enough that it should be expanded.

And in El Paso, Texas, researchers studied 500 women who regularly crossed the border into Mexico to buy birth control pills, where some U.S. brands sell over the counter for a few dollars a pack. Over nine months, the women who bought in Mexico stuck with their contraception better than another 500 women who received the pill from public clinics in El Paso, possibly because the clinic users had to wait for appointments, said Dr. Dan Grossman of the University of California, San Francisco, and the nonprofit research group Ibis Reproductive Health.

“Being able to easily get the pill when you need it makes a difference,” he said.

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AMickey1126
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:14am
I guess I wouldn’t mind it, as long as I’m not paying for it. The only thing that bothers me is the fact that people wouldn’t be able to talk to their doctor about which variation of pill would be best for them. I used to be on some for acne issues and some of them made me so sick.

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- JRook
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:56am
  “Wait, why would doctors who make money from women’s yearly visits for a birth-control prescription advocate giving that up?” Perhaps because in the vast majority of instances it would be uneventful and therefor rational health policy.
  
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- Jesse_J
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:41pm
  Birth control can be dangerous enough that it should have a prescription. Read fresh political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
  
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- Secret Squirrel
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 12:47pm
  .
  Wait.
  If it’s sold over the counter implies she’d have to pay for them.
  That’s the definition of the “War on Women”.
  To be fair, the store must give them to anyone who asks.
  Then send the bill to the taxpayer.
  Isn’t that the goal?
  
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Aldo
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:30am
Gees what next. Registering young people and having the government mail them rubbers and pills every month starting at the age of 10 and going to 50? Perhaps free dispensers (paid for by your tax dollars) at every street corner.

Hello! Why would we want to force feed this debauchery to our kids 24-7?

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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:41am
  You should really read the article, especially the part where OTC would mean that we, the taxpayers, no longer need to cover the pill if this suggestion passed.
  
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- TAC616
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:00am
  Indeed, I don’t see where you’re getting ANY of that. If anything, this would help to end the whole fight about providing the pill as part of an emplyee’s insurance.
  
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- Zipit
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:20am
  Again LOCKED, nice try! Coming to an EBT card near you, OTC birth control!!!!
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:26am
  @Zipit
  
  … Er, you realize that EBT cannot be used to buy OTC medication, right?
  “Q. What will your food stamps not buy?
  A. You cannot buy:
  • Non-food items
  • Alcoholic beverages
  • Tobacco and tobacco products such as cigars, cigarettes, snuff, and chewing tobacco
  • Drug store medication such as aspirin, antacids, and cough drops
  • Food preservation equipment such as canning jars and freezer containers
  • Foods not intended to be eaten by people such as dog and cat food, bird seed
  • Vitamins and minerals in tablet, capsule, powder, or liquid form”
  
  The “best” they can do is withdraw $20 from an ATM and buy the medication. But that means they’ve got $20 less for the rest… not that tax payers are paying $20 more.
  
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- Zipit
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:51am
  Humor LOCKED HUMOR!!!
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:02am
  Ah, sorry about that. It’s easy to miss things when communicating online… carry on!
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:05am
  @Locked
  Thanks for clarifying the issue of food stamps for the posters.Yours was more in depth than mine.Oh and one other thing you can’t withdraw money from an ATM through a food stamp card.You aren’t allowed any money back from purchases either.You aren’t allowed any thing but food.At least legally you aren’t.In certain states you don’t ever recieve cash for welfare either.These states don’t use a card for welfare.If you see someone using a card its there bank and or credit card not a welfare card.
  In my state we had a bunch who were a trying to track food stamp welfare recipents money flow and eating habits.They weren’t government but private citizens.While a nobile cause they about got themselves seriously hurt.They were sticking their heads in peoples basket and then would try and crane their heads to find out how people paid for their groceries.No one told them that the state used a very distinctive ebt card.it could only be used for food.They got an earful from several cashiers and rightfully so.
  Note if you want to try and track welfare food stamp dollars fine.Just make sure the person is actually on either,
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:10am
  @Objectivetruth
  
  Thanks for the update as well.
  
  By the way, I’ve enjoyed reading your posts when I’ve seen them lately. Objective truth is definitely something our country needs a dose of, and I haven’t seen anything inaccurate in what you’ve been posting so far. Keep up the good work!
  
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- Zipit
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:14am
  LOCKED! It could however be argued that, if I get pregnant, I would be putting a greater strain on the food stamp program, than if I had been provided birth control through the food stamp program! It’s all part of my reproductive rights you understand! (Again, humor), with a little liberal reasoning mixed in!
  
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- deeberj
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:25am
  People. EBT is not just for Food Benefits. It means electronic benefits tranfer, and it can be for cash assistance also. Some states have the Food Stamps and Cash on the same card – it’s just two different accounts on the same card. Get informed before you start argueing with this guy about buying birth control with an EBT card.
  
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Dagnabbit5
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:07am
Actually, lets just offer free sterilizations to anyone who wants one, man or woman. Then they wouldn’t worry about pregnancies and it would be cheaper than paying for their kids through the welfare system

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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:27am
  Why sterilizations? I think vasectomies/ IUDs would be a great service to provide. It takes the human error out of birth control, and is much more effective than any other kind of contraceptive.
  
  Of course, I realize your point is that you see these people as subhuman and don’t want them to reproduce at all, but I’m not pro-eugenics.
  
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- deeberj
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:28am
  Vascetomies and cut/tie/burn tubes.
  
  I think if a parent has more than one child that is on some sort of gov’t program or if a parent has more than one child on Child Support, then that parent should be able to request free sterilization. It would be cheaper to pay stop the baby factory than to continue supporting the babies into their adulthoodand then they start having babies.
  
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- BetsyRoss1513
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:22pm
  Then after free birth control and/or sterilization comes the notion that sex doesn’t have consequences. The stupid can sleep with other stupids, contract AIDS and cost the taxpayers JUST AS MUCH if not more, than children.
  
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- BetsyRoss1513
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:24pm
  @ deeber — I was on welfare/medicaid/food stamps. After my second child, I asked for a tubal – they scheduled it within 6 weeks of the birth.
  
  There aren’t many restrictions on tubals. If your doctor is willing to give you one, they say yes, and with much glee and no lines, no waiting.
  
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MarianF
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:54am
I think this is a great idea! It puts the power of conception in the womans hands. Frankly, I see that there can be problems with this too. But nothing is perfect so why not?

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Locked
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:45am
Huh, so…

1. It removes the tax payer from the equation. Incidentally, it also stops most of the outcry from Catholic organizations who didn’t want their insurance plans to cover the pill.
2. Removes the government from mandating what meds we can and cannot take
3. Will likely lower unwanted pregnancy and, thus, lower abortion rates
4. And it’s actually backed up by scientists? Folks who actually research and practice medicine for a living? Say it ain’t so!

I honestly cannot see a logical reason to oppose this move. The only outcries I expect to here are from those trying to use the government to control the sex lives of others, or from folks who will cry they can’t afford $16 a month. Ie, big-government advocates on both sides.

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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:50am
  hear*
  
  Man, I need my morning coffee…
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:32am
  No, it is liberty. I hate gatekeepers.
  
  Reviewing Mayo Clinic & other sources, they say “accidently” using the pill while pregnant does not seem to cause birth defects. So if in fact it did, the effect must be slight or they would have found it by now.
  
  Over the Counter (OTC) access is not explicit enough. Does this mean “GRAS/E” OTC or restricted OTC? This matters when it comes to minors.
  
  Also, I can see people messing around with birth control to spike drinks. But I guess people just have to be careful with who they hang out with or around.
  
  In terms of morality, there is some morality that you should not legislate. As the saying goes “You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink”. Some morality cannot be legislated, we must allow it to come from within.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:39am
  @Walkabout
  
  “No, it is liberty.”
  
  I’m not sure why you’d start your response with “No,” if almost everything you said agreed with me. As I said: there’s literally no downside to this from a conservative point of view. And by conservative, of course, I mean a constitutionalist, small-government point of view… not the progressive big-government social “conservative” point of view.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:40am
  Like you say it is liberty. I hate Gatekeepers.
  
  What does over the counter (OTC) mean? Is it “GRAS/E” OTC or “restricted” OTC? I don’t think minors should have access to this without parental consent.
  
  I could also see people spiking drinks to harm people or as hi-jinks. From the posting at Mayo Clinic there is no strong correlation between accidental use of birth control & birth defects. You would figured scientists would easily find strong correlation but might not find weak ones. But then it is accidental so how large of pool of observations do they have? Still people should be aware of who they hang out with or around, so this is not a reason not to lift restrictions.
  
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- TAC616
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:09am
  “I could also see people spiking drinks to harm people or as hi-jinks.”
  
  I can’t see this as an epidemic. There are ALOT of other drugs I’m sure unscrupulous people would rather spike a girl’s drink with.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:46pm
  Locked
  
  I was not disagreeing with you. I am still agreeing with you. It was early when I wrote & I had no coffee either.
  
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IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:36am
There is such a thing called morals and self control that are free for all the single people out there and the married people should pay for their own birth control pills and abortions. However, God will not be pleased on Judgement Day.

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U4eeeahhh
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:32am
The expense in obtaining birth control is the doctor’s appointment to obtain the prescription. The attacks on Planned Parenthood have reduced the number of places women can see a doctor for low cost or free. This is a GREAT idea

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FeliciaJewel
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:30am
Between the UN coming to America and/or the Singularity come to pass it won’t make a difference what we debate about here today. If the UN comes in with the idea or practiced idea of sustainability “Freedom” will be gone, you will not choose, the UN will decide for you. If Singularity comes within my life time, and the people remain free in America and we still have rights, that may be the best answer for all and again this issue will be dead in the water.

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Dagnabbit5
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:28am
I’m all for this as long as I/taxes aren’t paying for it.

But, if these women/couples are so forgetful that they can’t put on a condom before sex how are they going to remember to take a pill everyday.

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:53am
  It’s not forgetfulness… it’s stupidity and selfishness.
  
  Guys that don’t want to reduce their pleasure by wearing one combined with girls that lie about being on the pill and/or want to get pregnant to “trap” their homeboy.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:12am
  While some men don’t want to wear them,some women can’t have their partner use one.They are allergic to them.Especially those with spermicides.By the way if you think its only the women doing the trapping you are dead wrong.Men have been known to purposely pin hole a condom.Even knowing you don’t want or need any more children.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:42am
  objectivetruth
  What people of either sex lying or manipulating the other sex? Say it ain’t so.
  
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- Zipit
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:17am
  C’mon Dagnabbit! How long do you actually think it would be, before they are able to pay for it with their EBT cards?
  
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blanco5
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:18am
Yea, we are the “If it feels good, tastes, good, hurts other people…..who cares” new America.

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- just the facts
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:39am
  When personal responsibility is replaced with irresponsibility, social and moral breakdown occurs. It’s a fact of life. Just look around. There is no more or I should say very little self disicipine especially in the younger crowds. They will end up reaping what they sowed. I expect the younger crowds 25 yrs and under, will end up as (excuse the language), slave labor. Economiclly thats the path we are on and with the re-election of obumer, that path is highlighted.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:34am
  What exactly were you thinking when you posted?This isn’t about irresponsibility.Just the opposite.This allows those, who actually want to take responsibility for their own actions, to do so.If you think that lack of money[for exams] and time isn’t a factor in the unplanned births of all ages across america you are dead wrong.Then again, I guess you think all women who are sexually active are like sandra flucke and expect you or the taxpayers to cover their birth control.Which is also dead wrong.
  
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- TAC616
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:07am
  I don’t know where you people are getting stuff like this, as it wasn’t in the article I read. Making the pill OTC would be a great move. I thought the “conservatives” wanted less unwanted pregnancies, thus less abortions? Was I mistaken?
  
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- blanco5
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:49am
  Calm down you two uptight, always miseralble, not happy unless everyone is just as miserable as you are leftys—-think big picture, big picture.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:05am
  “think big picture, big picture.”
  
  As I mentioned before: government out of medicine? Good. No more tax payer money covering the pill? Good. Improved and timely access to contraceptives, which correlates with fewer unwated pregnancies and thus fewer abortions? Good.
  
  The big picture is that only three types of people will complain about this: folks who stand to lose money by not forcing doctor’s visits on these women, the folks who will now need to pay out of pocket instead of having their insurance pick up the tab, and the folks who just want to use big government to control the sex lives of others.
  
  None of these folks are constitutionalists or fiscal conservatives, so I say “feh” to them.
  
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Proverbs17-12NLT
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:17am
Ooooppppss guys the wording ‘Sold over the counter’ won’t fly with obamaclaus it must be ‘Free over the counter’

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tommy.tommy
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:16am
I don’t know…why? The filthy catholics having a temper tantrum over this. They only do onething good. But you never see the filthy catholic church cleaning up their wicked church. Like calling a catholic preacher…”the father” Which it’s call “BLASPHEMY!” Plus, they worship false idols of Jesus, Mary and body parts. That’s the problem with the filthy catholic church and the followers, to. They think? They’re god. The filthy catholics uses that “misdirect” very well from the truth. By their filthy b/s dogma crap. lol

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- DontStopBelieving
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:30am
  Wow.
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:39am
  don’tstopbelieve.
  Wow…It’s the truth about the filthy catholic church.. I believe in God and sound doctrine. Not the filthy catholic way. lol
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:50am
  TOMMYBOY…
  
  Catholics could care less if the pill is OTC… they just don’t want to PAY for YOU to buy it.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:55am
  Have… you ever met a Catholic before? I would expect you to have at some point, as they are far and away the largest and oldest denomination of Christianity. I guarantee if you asked a Catholic “Do you think you are God?” they’ll look at you like you grew another head.
  
  I don’t agree with Catholic dogma and papacy, so I’m not a Catholic. But I also don’t insult their beliefs because at the end of the day they believe in Christ and God just like I do. I also don’t make up things about their beliefs because Christians aren’t supposed to lie. Something you might want to mull over.
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:01am
  Eastinfectionaids
  Just think? You have to pay for your filthy homosexuals preachers and your homosexuals catholics in your filthy catholic church Also, your AIDS medication as well. Pay, you filthy catholics, pay good!! lol
  
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- barber2
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:07am
  TOMMY is our Obama Lefty Troll – our guided missile sent to trash the Catholic Church. He joined the Blaze yesterday with this name. Guess he ran out of rant comments against Catholics in the NYT ( oh, the NYT just HATES the Catholic Church as all Obama Big Brother types do ! ) , so she/ he was sent here. Interesting how the Trolls have ” themes :” there is the Trash Israel Troll, the Trash Mormon Troll, the Trash female conservative Troll ….just so many nasty, trashy, hate- filled Trolls. Sad little , twisted creatures…need mental therapy…
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:12am
  Locked
  You couldn’t pay me to be catholic. My Church show me your evil ways from the past and the future. I know, your false christ teaching and your filthy dogma crap….You live by. I know, the Bible far more. Than, you catholics. But I will tell this? Soon, your evil catholic church will be destroy in the future. Because, Jesus warn about your filthy catholic church. Matthew 23:9
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:12am
  Wow TOMMY….
  
  Was that a sentence? Good grief it’s 9am old boy. Put down the Wild Turkey!
  Filthy homosexual Catholics with AIDs? lol… You don’t get out much, do you?
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:20am
  Barber 2
  I expose the truth about the filthy catholics and their lying ways. Also, that’s why? We have these problems in America by you catholics. The amazing part? You filthy catholics go to your “filthy fathers preachers” and by pass your evil sins. AND you do your evil sins all over again. I’m independent. The filthy catholics hates the truth. What they really are…….lol
  
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- MontaraMissileMan
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:40am
  Anyone else think Tommy types the way Gollum speaks?
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:43am
  @Tommy
  
  I specifically said I’m not Catholic. I even said why. Troll harder, fail troll.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:44am
  User Profile: tommy.tommy
  
  Member Since: November 20, 2012
  ***
  I’ve seen this troll before under other names.
  
  Tommy seek psychiatric help immediately!
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:44am
  Eastinfectiondisease
  Hell or burning forever, huh? ha ha Try reading Ecc. 9:5. Like I said? I know, the truth from the Bible, far more. Than, you filthy catholics. Hell means “grave” or “resting in their graves” I don’t think? God would have you lying filthy catholics and your pagan rituals up in heaven. Like christmas and easter. Because, you spread lies from the Bible and you teach falsely. It’s that misdirect. You filthy catholics teach, very well. lol
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:52am
  Walkabout.
  It’s a night mare for you catholics. When a true Christian knows? The truth about the filthy catholics.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:55am
  @EastInfection
  How dare you compare him with your idiot version of how applachian people live.I once had some respect for your posts.No longer.What you posted was demeaning to mountain people.Its also the most inaccurate depiction I’ve had the displeasure of reading.I will have you know that by old law[celtic applachian law] any man who beat/raped a female was subject to death.By her.If she refused then his own family carried out the sentence.The women are also taught from a early age to never lie about something like that, as the consequences aren’t reversable.
  As to the snake handlers.It really is a sign of faith.Contrary to your idiotic perception these people aren’t stupid or reckless.This is usually the only truly dangerous pursuit[outside of working in the coal mines]that these people pursue.
  Oh and one other thing. More people living in applachia have college degrees than you would ever imagine.
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:03am
  Locked
  Well, I’m sorry by calling you a filthy catholic. The filthy catholics attack me all the time. When I tell the truth about the filthy catholics and their evil ways……But I expose the truth about the evil catholic church. Because, they’re not a true Christian of God. That’s why…
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:20am
  OBJECTIVE TRUTH…
  
  I meant no offense to people who currently live in the mountains with my post that was up for about 1 minute before it was removed.. it was in direct response to an extremely insulting post TOMMY put up that lasted even less time before it was yanked… I said “throw-back” and was relying on stereo types that are grounded in historical fact… Incest was once a serious problem in the Appalachians, as were false preachers with less than ideal ethics… and many of them used snakes.
  If i personally offended you, i apologize.. my hostility was directed at Slingblade Tommy and his obvious aversion to “edumaction” and “book lernin’ “… stereo-types vs stereo-types if you will.
  
  PS… Slingblade Tommy: Commas, periods, and apostrophes have specific places they belong. They are not condiments to be sprinkled on sentences like chocolate chips on ice cream or, in your case, dandruff and lice on the dinner plate.
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:49am
  Eastinfectiondisease, that’s your true name and your evil catholic church, to. ha ha. “Infectiondisease”
  When I expose the truth about your evil catholic church? You call me “lefty”. Which I’m not. I’m trying to show the American people. Why? The American people have these problems by picking your Rino Republicans and your evil Bush. Who’s filthy catholic, to. You filthy catholics manipulate the American people by picking your evil Rinos and your filthy catholics politcians. See, the Americans needs true Americans and true Christians. Not you lying filthy catholics. That’s why? We have these problems by you filthy catholics and the evil politicians, today. Also, I speak against evil Obama and the Demotards, to.
  
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- MontaraMissileMan
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:59am
  Seriously, it’s everything I can do to not read that out loud and add in “little hobbitses” every time he says “filthy catholics”
  
  Try reading everything he’s saying but change every instance of “filthy catholic” to “filthy little catholic hobbitses”, and be sure to do it out loud in a Gollum voice.
  
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- Zipit
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:06am
  East, etal! This is hilarious! I don’t think I’ve ever laughed this hard in my life!!!! BLAZE, please put EAST’S post back up….. This is priceless!!! The deaf, dumb and blind kid, has really brought the sun out this morning! TOMMY CAN YOU HEAR ME? OMG!
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:07am
  “Seriously, it’s everything I can do to not read that out loud and add in “little hobbitses” every time he says “filthy catholics””
  
  I’ve been doing this the entire time, honestly. It’s pretty awesome.
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:12am
  Martarimmissleman.
  I call, athiests, homosexuals, and catholics” FILTHY”, to. You’ll see the word “filthy” by me…more. These are the three evil people in America and the world, to. That’s too bad. It hurts your sissy feelings. lol
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:18am
  @eastinfection
  Apology accepted.I’m sorry too I shouldn’t have overreacted.Its just that many people really don’t know all the truths about applachia.The stereotype you relayed is more commonplace than the real truth.I have to admit I was taken back by your post.I have always had respect for you.I simply didn’t think you would post something like that.Then again a troll can bring out the worse in all of us.If for no other reason than they are a waste of time.
  
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- MontaraMissileMan
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:26am
  @Tommy, who said my feelings were hurt? I just can’t get over how much your typing skills remind me of the way Gollum speaks, it’s actually making me laugh really freaking hard.
  
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- deeberj
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:31am
  Wow. I didn’t know filthy always accompanied the word Catholic. Thanks for clearing that up.
  
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- Zipit
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:32am
  If we could only hear TOMMY talk, I think he would sound something like this!
  
  http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Rgp3pU4-wZg&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRgp3pU4-wZg
  
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- MontaraMissileMan
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:34am
  Oh, and Tommy, please at least look at the my screen name when you’re trying to type a response using it. There’s no need to mispell it. It’s right there in front of you. We won’t judge you if you cheat on this spelling test.
  
  It’s MONTARA-MISSILE-MAN but without the dashes
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:35am
  Missleman
  You filthy catholics is liars and retarded. In a way? You’re like homosexuals. You hate the truth about your tard church. lol
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:53am
  Missileman
  It looks like? You spell “mispell” wrong. Now, you don’t want your catholic **** buddies ” thinking?” You’re tard. Right? lol
  
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- MontaraMissileMan
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 1:04pm
  Heh, well technically I spelled the word in its UK form, but yeah that’s amusing. Score 1 internet for you sir. (Here’s my correction *misspell)
  
  Also, I’m by FAR not a catholic. I don’t believe that catholic faith is the correct one and have many reservations with their doctrine. My wife is an ex-catholic and most of my pagan friends are all ex-Catholics. I’ve heard enough about the faith and some of the people in it, but I won’t call them filthy or anything else along those lines. I’ll just continue to let them live their lives as they see fit as long as they are worshiping in peace.
  
  That’s because I’m not filled with hate, like you. I will stand up for them because they have a right to worship, just as you do. I may think they’re wrong on their interpretation of everything and have problems with their doctrine/faith but it isn’t enough to drive me into a frothing rage over the thought of someone being one and targeting nameless followers with hate filled rants. That type of thinking leads to genocide.
  
  Congrats, you think they’re wrong in their faith, good for you. Move on dude, seriously, you might want to see a therapist or at least get your Thetan levels checked…
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 2:55pm
  ZIP… lol…love me some “Coast to Coast”!
  
  SLINGBLADE TOMMY….. “You’ll see the word “filthy” by me…more”… lmao… how appropriate. I’m picturing you standing by the side of the road next to a sign that says “FILTHY ——->”
  
  One of those strange things we have that are called “books” is named “dictionary”.
  This is how the dictionary defines “filthy”….
  
  Adjective: Disgustingly dirty.
  Adverb: To an extreme and often disgusting extent.
  Synonyms: foul – nasty – sordid – unclean – smutty – squalid
  
  Smell ya later FILTHY TOMMY.
  
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Pnis
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:11am
This sounds like a great idea! If it’s safe, it will give women more freedom to choose if they wish to get preggers. It will cut down on abortions and unwanted children.

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- MontaraMissileMan
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:22am
  It’s like capitalism helps make everyone better off.
  
  You mean getting government regulation out of the way might make the entire situation better? Say it isn’t so! [/sarcasm]
  
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- Dustoff
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 1:02pm
  But…. you’ll still pay for their pills.
  
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Bamabelle
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:02am
Ok so all this will do is make guys less likely to buy a condom which could likely cause a rise in stds. Bad idea all the way around in my opinion. Not only that, women can use the pill without telling their mate they are on it when trying to concieve. I see bad consiquences. Aids could rise up again as well. It is a bad Idea!

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jackact
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:54am
Won’t help the over population of the minority class who are busy creating new welfare recipients.
Will it?

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- MontaraMissileMan
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:19am
  Removes the need for a prescription and a doctor’s visit which means it removes the need for the poor to pay for those things (or more likely, tax payers paying for those things). OTC makes the drug far more affordable and leads to generics. The lower price means it isn’t a bother and doesn’t require a government mandated “free-birth control” law. That lower price and higher availability also means Planned Parenthood wouldn’t need as much federal funding, if any.
  
  So, who cares if it will decrease the pregnancy rates or not. It will decrease a government burden upon society and free up more money for other things by removing government a little bit from everyone’s lives.
  
  Plus, y’know more freedom and capitalism, less statist interventionism/cronyism which is a good thing.
  
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Cavallo
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:54am
“It’s unfortunate that in this country where we have all these contraceptive methods available, unintended pregnancy is still a major public health problem,” said Nanda, a scientist with the North Carolina nonprofit FHI 360, formerly known as Family Health International.”

So making it OTC isn’t going to have that much of an effect. However, I am all for getting government out of this mandating you must do X Y Z to obtain this pharmaceutical if it is as safe as the Drs are saying.

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DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:52am
Over the counter? It won’t make a bit of difference. Just another waste of time, like sex education in school was and is. These “unwanted” babies are a meal ticket. A monthly check. A way out of mother’s home and a route to their own, subsidized housing and “adulthood”.

As long as these girls are rewarded with goodies for having kids…they will come.

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- objectivetruth
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:15am
  Hate to bust your bubble.Not all girls do that.I have had the pleasure of meeting women who had a child while in thier teens.These women didn’t go on welfare food stamps.They either married the father or had their familys help.It truly wasn’t about benefits.One that I spoke to recently had a child at fifteen.She is now in her twenties and by now a certified pharmacist.She was in her last semester when I talked to her.
  Your attitude, not you personally ,contibutes more to women going on the dole than you would imagine.These girls hear that they are leeches whores do nothings.They begin to live up to the negative expectations set for them.Unlike older women who have made something of themselves and have the benefit of wisdom these young women don’t.I’m not saying we should glorify having children out of wedlock or underage.We however don’t need to agressively persecute them for it either.That has never solved anything.Well correction it has.That is if we want that type behaviour.
  
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cdn1979
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:50am
what is wrong with the pill OTC? No one is asking you to take it, and if you don’t like it, don’t buy it.

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- barber2
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:54am
  And you do you suppose the Obama people will decide should pay for this product ? Oh, let me guess. Food Stamps for BC !?
  
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- MontaraMissileMan
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:31am
  Can you buy other OTC drugs with food stamps?
  
  I actually don’t see a problem with allowing food stamps to buy BC if they can buy Tylenol or Aspirin already with the same thing. Heck, we could defund Planned Parenthood by pointing that out and if they bought it and used it with food stamps we wouldn’t need to have a BC mandate on everyone’s health insurance since it would be cheap and affordable.
  
  I bet Walmart could sell a 90 day supply for under $30.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:58am
  BARBER….
  
  Though i don’t want to pay for other people’s crap regardless… truth is that us paying for their Birth Control is cheaper than us paying for their Dr.s appointment AND Birth Control.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:00am
  MONT: Problem is : the list of goodies never stops but the taxpayers’ wallets only have so many bucks in them. That is where we are already : busted !
  
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- MontaraMissileMan
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:13am
  @Barb: Oh, no I agree with that, but all I’m saying here is that if food stamps already cover OTC drugs, why not allow it to cover BC as well. It’s cheaper than covering the doctors visits and their BC like we are already doing.
  
  But I’m relatively ignorant on what exactly food stamps can be used for as my family and I have never used them, so it may be a moot point to even speculate if food stamps could be used if can’t be used for other OTC drugs.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:25am
  To all of you
  Food Stamps can’t be legally used to purchase any thing but food.Key word is legally.
  This is a very good idea.Many people even with insurance have problems scheduling an appointment time.Many people think its all on the docs its not.For many patients its their own schedules that are hard to clear.Unlike a problem that surfaces, its a routine visit.Many people put it off.Not to mention the money factor.
  
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- MontaraMissileMan
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 9:36am
  @ObjectiveTruth:
  
  Thanks for the clarification on that. I’m not familiar with the program enough to know the specifics on it.
  
  I guess I could spend 5 minutes with google, but…
  
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- Locked
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:30am
  To expand on @Objectivetruth’s comment:
  
  EBT (commonly called food stamps) can only be used for food. You can’t buy medication, alcohol, cigarettes, or even “hot” food like store hotdogs. HOWEVER, you can withdraw a set amount (IIRC, $20 per… week? Month?) from your EBT total in cash. This was originally meant to cover things like bus fare, or subway tickets, or other petty cash transactions… but once it’s cash, the government can’t really track it.
  
  However, this means they have $20 less to spend on food. The cost to the taxpayer wouldn’t increase.
  
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kaydeebeau
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:45am
Well gee whiz since they can’t be responsible to remember to take them, why not just put it in the water supply….. isn’t that the idea of one of O buddies?

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mrja
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:41am
Birth Control should be OTC and free in Obama ‘spigot’ cities……….yes, hint of sarcasm

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barber2
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:39am
Judging from the comments of our angry Trolls, one can only wish their parents would have been able to have used more birth control. Or maybe just ” control” as in how they should have raised their kids so as not to become a danger to civilized society. Parenting is difficult and looks like a lot of people were not up to the task.

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Granny58
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:37am
I think this is a good idea. Don’t know if it will actually reduce unintended pregnancies since a condom is readily available but people don’t use them either. There will need to be a disclaimer on the front of the package in HUGE letters that contraceptive effects of the Pill are not immediate!

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 8:48am
  I agree…. though many selfish guys “forget” to wear condoms because intercourse is less pleasurable with one…
  Most of these dudes would prefer a woman was on the pill for sure. Won’t stop the spread of VDs but probably is a good idea, overall.
  
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louise
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:34am
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Mia Cav
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:34am
OTC oral birth control is a horrible idea. Our (now) 17 year old daughter was diagnosed with Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome last year. Lucky for her, is is a mild case. Since last November, she has been on 4 different birth control pills due to other meds interacting with them. I would not want to navigate that mine field myself! Her doctor even perscribed 2 in the 4 that were contraindicated with the main med she uses to control the PCOS. It is not all about blocking pregnancy!

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- soap on a rope
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:31pm
  I was diagnosed with PCOS over a decade ago. Hopefully the state of care has changed since then because it was my experience that I knew far more about the disease than my doctors did. One had a magazine article about PCOS in her waiting room, yet said she’d never heard of such a thing. Finding a birth control pill that wasn’t laden with side-effects was very much a matter of trial and error. I tried, logged all the errors, went in to request something different, and continued collecting data. I did my own research on drug interactions and contraindications because doctors are busy and don’t always look it up themselves. Part of patient-centered medicine is being your own advocate. Same as if you took Bendryl to control allergies, but discovered it was putting you to sleep, and so you switched to Allegra.
  
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ares338
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 7:25am
Democrats are winning in every instance! The instant society…..give me…..give it to me now!

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- TAC616
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:17am
  I thought less governernment regulation, free market solutions were a key pillar of conservatism.
  
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- Pontiaku
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 10:21am
  Eh? Improve your critical thinking skills. Or read the comments above.
  
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- TAC616
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 11:03am
  I did. The people against seem to fall into “But people will have sex! OH NOESS!!1!!11″ type of mindset. People have sex anyway. Doing this will make birth control cheaper. And help make it so employers with moral issues don’t have to deal with it on their employee’s insurance.
  Feel free to explain how REMOVING a government regulation(small government IS still supposed to be a Republican thing isn’t it?) is somehow creeping socialism. Go right ahead.
  
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- Pontiaku
  Posted on November 21, 2012 at 4:39pm
  @TAC616
  That was not a reply to you. It is highly unlikely I would have seen your post and replied to it in 4 minutes flat.
  
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