Ashley and Dillan Warden (Photo: Paul Hellstern/The Oklahoman)
Earlier this month, an Oklahoma mother was slapped with a ticket after her 3-year-old potty training son dropped his drawers and urinated in their front yard. Now the officer issuing that ticket has been fired.
According to NewsOK, officer Ken Qualls was fired Friday after a hearing earlier in the week and the case has been dropped. Mother Ashley Warden protested against the ticket but she wasn’t the only one complaining. NewsOK reported Piedmont City Manager Jim Crosby saying that city council members got emails about the controversial public urination ticket from people in Canada, England and Australia.
“Of course we did receive a lot of notoriety over that,” Crosby acknowledged.
The officer with 18 years of law enforcement experience plans to appeal his being fired.
According to Crosby, Qualls has also said that he didn’t see Dillan Warden pee in the front yard, but saw a teen ushering the boy to the front yard location to do his business.
Watch the report:
Those on the website In the Line of Duty have begun discussing if Qualls should have been fired over the incident. Here are two opposing thoughts on the situation:
- Ofc52sierra: Would I fire him over this? Actually, YES. He showed a complete lack of common sense. Anyone who would write a ticket because a LITTLE boy peed outside shows absolutely no sense of right and wrong. I’d forever worry about what OTHER mistake he might make.
- Flxn1: If that’s the only thing they had on the officer, no he should not have been fired.
Read more about the initial issuing of the ticket, which could have cost the family up to $2,500, in TheBlaze’s original post here.
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Comments (127)
jungle J
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:47pmif you want cops to be perfect then you should too….progressives want cops abused.
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Larry E
Nov. 21, 2012 at 5:24pmI’d like cops and a lot of other people to be perfect, or at least pretty good. If this idiot has no better judgement than this he deserves to be fired.
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Capt_Gregg
Nov. 21, 2012 at 5:39pmHe has 18 years in law enforcement. I’d reserve judgement until I knew more about his record in the field. If it shows a pattern of this “Barney Fife” approach, then yes, he should be fired. If it indicates that this incident was an aberration, then he deserves no more than a mild reprimand.
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ScratInTheHat
Nov. 21, 2012 at 8:37pmProgressives want cops in control of every aspect of your life! This is clearly in that range of control and clearly outside the realm of common sense! Without a public outcry Uncle Slam would love this Cop’s actions!
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thegreatcarnac
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:32pmGhostofJefferson…….and I assume no one is posting on the CPUSA forum….huh comerad!?
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moosed
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:16pmIt’s private property. No mention of a neighbor complaining. No witness mentioned, including the cop. The kid is 3.
$2,500 for urinating in public? Delinquency of a minor for answering the call of nature? The kid is being potty trained.
Maybe there’s more to the story on both sides. Did the mother first talk back to the cop when he approached to tell her to not let her kid pee in the yard? Was the cop rude and threatening? There’s much more here that nobody is reporting. If not, then the cop IS a risk and needs to at least be reassigned to desk duty. Firing and maybe losing his pension is overkill — just like the fine was!
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HKS
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:25pmWe clearly have to many cops, this is proof.
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SoonRx
Nov. 21, 2012 at 5:19pmthis cop was known to hang out at the end of the street that the family lived on for the last few hours of his shift. he simply wanted to be a tough guy. he got what he deserved, and why should the taxpayers pay for him to sit behind a desk for the next ten years or so? just so he can get his taxpayer provided pension? by the way this housing addition was layed out in 2.5-5 acre lots, so its not like he was on main street.
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rickc34
Nov. 21, 2012 at 5:20pmOnly if he was talking like Elmo when he wrote the ticket……
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The_Pointy_End
Nov. 21, 2012 at 5:25pmA toddler peeing in his front yard should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER be approached by an officer. This officer is a bully and if an altercation occurred between the officer and the mother, it was because the officer provoked one by not ignoring the toddler and moving on. Just because he wears a uniform it doesn’t negate him from being in the wrong. IMHO – probable would not have been fired if he would have admitted his mistake and apologized.
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SoonRx
Nov. 21, 2012 at 5:27pmwhy should the taxpayers pay him to sit behind a desk for the next 10 or so years? i think the chief did the town a favor by letting them off the hook for his salary and benefits.
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Stoic one
Nov. 21, 2012 at 7:13pmMOOSED
There is a link to the first article in the above story.. there you find the info that you are looking for.
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meisterman41
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:10pmStill remember as it were just yesterday: We were at the beach, I was 7 and my little brother was 3. He told my mother that he had to pee, so she told him to go pee in the water. Next thing we see is him at the waters edge pulling his shorts down and wizzing away in plain sight of the hundreds of people on the beach that day.
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:07pmIs Stormfront down today I assume?
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Sterling Hallbrook
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:00pmTermination? Really? That’s pretty severe unless this guy has a history of disciplinary problems. The chief should have just had the prosecutor dismiss the cite, publicly apologize to the mom, suspend the cop for 30 days or so (unpaid), counsel, retrain, and stick him on the front desk until retirement. Stupid yes; fired no.
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The Gooch
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:16pmShame is an unforgiving b****. It has been my experience this is the ONLY real motivator with gubment and managers. Sometimes it can cause folks to knee-jerk (rather than punt).
Seems to me this cop shamed his handlers. Were there other skeletons in the closet? Not as far as we know. So, yeah, firing for just this one incident seems a bit much. I’m pretty sure this boy and his family aren’t scarred for life. Time to reign in the emotionalism. You’d think the cop peed on someone.
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19RANDY59
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:24pmNO!!! It’s time to fire these BOZO’s that have no common sence
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Paool
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:55pmAgreed, like the article says the Officer has 18yrs on duty and they can him over this? Ya the guy sounds like he needs a stick removed from his ****, but not canned.
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WATER-THE-TREE
Nov. 22, 2012 at 12:56amYES REALLY — This cop had no business wearing a badge — three year old boy potty training, been there done that — and if letting the boy pee in the yard helps him learn to not pee his pants, by all means OK! cop is a stupi @ss fool for this!
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ZAP
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:59pmBet that cop never p’d outside,yeah right
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BlackCrow
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:40pmSomebody this stupid should not be walking around loose with a badge and a gun. He will probably get picked up by the boarder patrol.
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Gonzo
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:37pmIf that’s the worst thing the cop ever does, he should get a medal. Stupid yes, but I think a reprimand would have sufficed.
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Jaycen
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:45pmReally? Gonzo, you don’t think this shows a strong lack of common sense?
What other minutae will this bureaucrat with a gun seek to enforce against other citizens? Do you have children? Have you ever caught your 9 year old peeing behind a tree in a park because he said, “Dad, I’m going to go pee real quick.” – and you thought he meant the public bathrooms 50 ft away, but turned around to find out he didn’t have a clue?
Good God, if I got handed a ticket that could result in a $2,500 fine, I think I would have gone to jail for assaulting an officer that day.
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Dom321
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:55pmGonzo, while I agree with your posts, most of the time, I think JAYCEN has a point.
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Gonzo
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:04pmIt was a stinkin’ ticket, it’s not like he pistol whipped the kid. Guy had been in law enforcement for 18 years. If he has a bad history then by all means fire him, but we don’t have that info. I hate to see anybody out of work these days and a ticket just ain’t that big of a big deal to me.
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Dom321
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:26pmGonzo, the fact that this POS wanted to “look busy”, does not excuse him from an act of blatant stupidity. The fact that he got fired was up to the police investigators.
His lack of judgement in this trivial event, renders him not capable of judgement in more serious cases, such as murder, etc.
I don’t know about the $2500 fine. I don’t have concrete info. But, any fine is absurd.
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longknifed
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:55pmGonzo,
that’s scary. If this kinda crap is allowed, think about what else is? I was almost caught urinating outside and in my state you get labeled as a REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER for that.
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Mudd
Nov. 21, 2012 at 8:29pmYou gotta believe they wouldn’t can a good, hard working, decent cop over something like this. Seems like one of those last straw deals to me and we really don’t have all the facts but I still say, good riddence.
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myrwo6
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:17pmThe kid was coaxed to pee outside. Did you all miss that part?
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Rogue
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:25pmDid YOU miss the part where the cop admitted not actually seeing the boy pee? lol
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1TrueOne55
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:41pmYeah and were they brothers and related to the mom if so then he had possibility for a ticket. So a city paid to train and equip this officer for 18years and now they let him fire him over a difference of interpretation. That is what our court system if for, that’s why we pay judges not twitter to either enforce the officers point of view of the law or not. So if this is going to be the norm of all laws then why do cities, counties, states and countries even enact laws. Let’s just let humanity live wild and watch how long your peaceful life lasts.
Anarchy is the lack of societal laws is that what humanity wants then there is a place for that it is called HELL.
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Jaycen
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:42pmBy a teenager. So, the family must pay a $2,500 fine due to the poor judgement of a teenager.
This poor judgement didn’t result in any property damage or personal injury. It resulted in a smaller child peeing outside.
Friend, if you don’t understand why your statement is rediculous then I am sad for our country.
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Jaycen
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:46pm@1TrueOne55
Right, because a toddler peeing outside, and a teenager with goofy judgement is the same thing as the “end of civilization”.
You’ve got a lock on perspective, don’t you?
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19RANDY59
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:37pmSo what? If you’re offended by a toddler peeing, you need some counseling.
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The-Monk
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:14pmIn most places a Police Officer can’t write a ticket for a misdemeanor unless he witnesses the crime.
IMHO neither the ticket or the firing were justified.
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AmericanStrega
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:08pmTo pee outside or not to pee outside. That is the question!
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longknifed
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:06pmWe “kooks” tried to tell you this is what you elected when you voted for Romney.
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Dom321
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:19pmWTF are you talking about????!!! Did Romney win? You, sir are a KOOK. Get back on your meds. I smell a Paulbot….
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The-Monk
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:20pm@longknifed,
Do you really believe this has anything to do with the election?
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Dom321
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:33pm@MONK
Long started drinking early. LOL
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drphil69
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:40pmlol… so it would have been better had we voted for who? ron paul? obama would still be president, you nut!
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longknifed
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:09pmNo you voted for Obama by voting for Romney. You knew he was going to lose. You knew the Republicans were going to immediately cave on every issue to the Democrats immediately after the election. You preferred to compromise to progressives instead of libertarians. Why not let RP run and at the very least set up a new constituency if not outright win and unwind this foreign government? You have more in common with progressives than constitutional libertarians because you want this police state. You want social security and medicare and you want me to pay for it because you feel ENTITLED. You have more in common with the left than you realize. You are so against burnouts smoking in their homes that you let this police state make these fascist laws like public urination.
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Dom321
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:50pmGet back on your meds… Or stop drinking early in the day….You express yourself like someone who has lost it…. Or maybe you have, since Paul is not going to run again. Pity (LOL)
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longknifed
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:57pmOh ya, but not you beckbots? “oh whoa is me, Romney lost…I think i’ll kill myself.” my god you sound like a democrat. PS, pathologizing somebody you don’t agree with is a MARXIST tactic.
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Frodo RinosBane
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:06pmSerously, folks? I can’t believe people (some of whom presumably have children) think a little boy urinating in public was any big deal. I guess this really isn’t the country I grew up in. While I don’t really want to see the officer fire, I really do question his judgment on cimes that are important. It’s that Barney Fife syndrome.
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:14pmSerious question: You have no issues with a kid openly taking a whizz on the lawn in a subdivision?
I mean sure, don’t arrest him or do anything legal to the parents, but the kid (and parents) should know that raising a kid to think the world is his toilet will lead him into no end of trouble when he grows up. Me, personally, I’d had taken the mom aside and asked her to bring her son a bit more in line, personally (and as a neighbor, not as a cop).
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Jaycen
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:50pm@Frodo RinosBane
You’ve got it exactly right, sir. I’m dumbfounded by the number of people who think the cop showed appropriate judgement, or even those who think his judgement isn’t indicative of much worse.
Ghostofjefferson’s statement is pretty shocking, too. I thought he was more common sensical than that. Does he REALLY think little boys are walking around just dropping trou wherever and causing a public health issue?
I’d guess he’s done it himself when he was too young to remember. The mentality is just unbelievable.
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rdawwgy
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:55pmGHOSTOFJEFFERSON – please stay out of my subdivision.
Yes it is OKAY for a young boy to pee anywhere. There I said it – be offended.
This happened on private property – the cop was being a nanny – and if he did not witness the peeing, there should be no misdemeanor ticket.
and by the way- GROW up and get some common sense. Yeeshhh.
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Dom321
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:57pmBarney Fife indeed!
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:58pmHi Jaycen
Where did I mention that the cop should have done anything, at all?
I was speaking about teaching a child lessons in civility and getting along in society. I don’t believe in letting kids grow up thinking that they can whiz any ol’ where they want. That leads directly to joining OWS. :)
If I noticed such a thing, I’d probably mention it to mom or dad, if it was more than one occurrence. If it was out in the middle of the woods, then who cares. But in a neighborhood, it happens, so you use the opportunity to teach the kid something (gently).
Not sure where you’re seeing a lack of common sense here.
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:00pm@Rdawg
You may rest assured, I have no business in your subdivision, and I doubt you could afford to live in mine. :)
If you like to teach your kid to whizz all over everything, that’s your business. A neighbor asking you about it apparently causes you to flip into Leftist Rage. Since I said the cop shouldn’t have been involved, I can only conclude that you clearly don’t care to get along with others simply because you like the notion of trying to offend people and then smirking. Typical.
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rdawwgy
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:07pm@GHOST – you are just a troll.
And I guess you are sooo rich and better than the rest of us that you can enforce your morality (and stupidity) on anyone else. But I don’t believe you are – you are probably a bum using a computer in your soiled pants in a public library.
You are just a Mayor Bloomberg type nanny without any common sense.
If you are so freaking rich, why not give all your money to the unfortunate among us? We would then be able to afford proper potty training.
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14ESCHATOLOGY
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:09pm@ ghost
“Since I said the cop shouldn’t have been involved”….
“Me, personally, I’d had taken the mom aside and asked her to bring her son a bit more in line…”
So, the police office shouldn’t have been involved but you’re smarter than the rest and you would get involved….HOW TOTALLY SELF-INVOLVED you must be.
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rdawwgy
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:11pm@Ghost – and I didn’t even read where you called me a leftist. How would you know?
Because I spout liberty and freedom? Common sense? Doesn’t sound like a leftist to me. Sounds like a PROUD bona-fide Tea party member who wants LIMITED government.
You are such a tool!
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:14pmI didn’t say I was rich, Rdawgy, I was rather commenting on your particular plight. :)
Sorry that flew over your head like that. If you come in throwing invective like Jake Belligerent, do expect a bit of push back.
How interesting that people find simple statements from a person confident in his thoughts and opinions to be so offensive. Also more interesting, the topic it shakes out on. heh.
Have yourself a Happy Thanksgiving dawg.
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:17pm@14
No, because it’s the right thing to do. If you see a 5 year old boy, say, running around the neighborhood slugging 3 year old girls, especially habitually, it’s probably a good idea to let his mother and father know. That used to be called neighbors watching out for one another, akin to watching for strange cars pulling up to a neighbor’s home while they’re away.
Does everybody here live in isolate out in the middle of Nebraska?
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:18pm@Rdawdy
How did I know? Lack of standards perhaps?
We’re both tea party, btw. If you’d put down your ego and pride and take a deep breath, maybe you’ll realize we’re probably on the same side of 99% of issues. Relax.
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rdawwgy
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:33pm@GHOST
You are such a smug @hole. You are the one stirring the pot – making assertions in a way to offend everyone and then trying to substantiate your reckless comments.
And by the way I’m not pissed, Just offended at your strawmen and specious arguments.
And the kicker is that you are from Ohio – just PERFECT.
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19RANDY59
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:46pmThis is why we lost the election. All of us arguing over stupid crap like this
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rdawwgy
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:56pmThis has nothing to do with the election.
We lost the election because Romney (1) is a Mormon; (2) spouted that he would pass “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” in the first year in the second debate; (3) agreed with Obama’s foreign policy completely in the last debate.
People like me didn’t vote when it was clear that Romney was just going to go along with the status quo. He said as much to Gingrich in the Republican debates.
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longknifed
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:58pmGhost,
you claim to be a RP supporter, but stuff like this makes these neocons sound correct in their conspiracy theories about Democrats posing as libertarians.
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 9:46pm@Dawg
You’re the only one offended, chief.
@Knife
I’m not allowed to have my own opinion then? Must kowtow to the herd right? Is that how Ron Paul and libertarians would do it? Geesh.
The groupthink around here is stunning when you don’t agree with the mob.
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Mudd
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:03pmI have no problems with good cops and no sympathy for idiots, he got what he deserved.
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Jaycen
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:51pmAmen.
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FISH_BONE
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:03pmtest
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FISH_BONE
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:15pmditto
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:03pmNot quite on topic, but 3 year olds with full sets of hair and who dress like kids are “toddlers” still? Seriously?
Oh, wait, I forgot, 26 year olds are still “children” according to the New United States. My bad.
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Mike Austin
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:29pmI think the one about the judgement of this cop and what mistake he would make in the future is the best expalination. That job REQUIRES split second thinking that could mean life or death.Maybe not most of the time or even perhaps very much in the past. But the future it looks more like a certainty. He needs a different line of work. Even a desk job in the PD would be ok. Just not on the street.
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14ESCHATOLOGY
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:39pm@ghost…..
You Sir…are a complete idiot!
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:47pm@14
Calling somebody a name without even bothering to explain the source of your irrational anger, hardly helps the conversation or even attempts to explain how you came to your conclusion.
I was being quite serious, but as an aside. I have kids, and they were hardly “toddlers” at 3. In fact, my son couldn’t run through the house beating on furniture with his plastic hammer fast enough. Toddler suggests, to me at least, a kid that “toddles” and is just learning the basics of getting around.
It wasn’t even an offensive comment really. And all you do is come in and sneer? Please, tell me you’re not somebody on my side (against the Left)?
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Jaycen
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:53pmChildren are typically considered to be toddlers till age 3 – 4. You obviously don’t have children, and so have next to no perspective on this situation. That doesn’t make you a bad person, but it makes your statements pretty dumb.
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:03pm@Jaycen
I have two children, thank you very much. And I’ve always viewed toddler as a concept for 18 month to about 2.5 years old. I’m not saying I’m right, I’m saying that’s what I’ve always considered it, so clearly I learned it from somewhere. 3 to 4 years old seems quite old, to me, for considering a child a toddler. At that point, I’ve always referred to them as a “child”. But apparently, that’s just me.
Accusing people of lying is bad form. I have nothing to gain by letting you know I have children.
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14ESCHATOLOGY
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:05pm@ghost
no irrational anger here. I’ve read most of your post on the subject here today and you seem to have a handle on all the “toddler” problems. I will tell you this…if you ever come over to me and tell me to get my son/daughter a “little bit more in line” you’ll probably wind up with a face full of fist.
Toddler up to age 4. My 3 year old still has the occasional accident…dude, she’s 3. I would never punish her for it. I know 3 year olds still in diapers.
Q: what exactly is a ful “set of hair” ? I’m bald…maybe I can get one.
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:12pm@14
These are my opinions. You don’t have to share them, and clearly do not.
So far I’ve gathered from you that:
1. I’m an idiot, not for any given reason, just because we disagree in opinion
2. Your resolution to a peaceful conversation you don’t like is violence
3. Your kid still pees his pants at 4 years old
4. You’re bald
Did I miss anything, or was that the extent of what you had to say to me?
You folks sure get all knicker twisted up when a person suggests that NO LAW should be involved HOWEVER perhaps neighbors should communicate (for habitual acts). My thoughts are exactly opposite of what happened in this article, and I believe the cop was an arse.
But…I guess no standards is the rule of the day. Have fun whizzing out on your front lawn.
Happy Thanksgiving btw.
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14ESCHATOLOGY
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:18pmGhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 21, 2012 at 4:12pm
@14
These are my opinions. You don’t have to share them, and clearly do not.
So far I’ve gathered from you that:
1. I’m an idiot, not for any given reason, just because we disagree in opinion
2. Your resolution to a peaceful conversation you don’t like is violence
3. Your kid still pees his pants at 4 years old
4. You’re bald
Did I miss anything, or was that the extent of what you had to say to me?
READING & COMPREHENSION shodl go hand-in-hand…
1. You’re an idiot because you seem to have all the answers for an incident in which you say the cops shouldn’t have been involved with.
2.My resolution to you sticking your nose where it doesn’t belong would be to remove it. so yes.
3. My daughter as stated above is 3
4. I am bald.
as wiht much of your ranting here…you’re batting about .250
SWING!
BTW,
Happy Tanksgiving
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:21pm@14
Have all the answers then? I stated what I’d do. I’m not supposed to have an opinion on what I’d do?
Strange.
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Eastinfection
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:43pmlol… Strange Indeed GHOST…
Some folks are particularly sensitive about their children- oops- i mean “toddlers”.
Also.. i missed the point where you advocated the beating of pant-wetters?
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Eastinfection
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:46pmPS… Dictionary definition of “Toddler”
1.One who toddles, especially a young child learning to walk. 2. A size of clothing for children between the ages of about one and three years.
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Dustoff
Nov. 21, 2012 at 7:59pmThe only child I see is a 3 yr old and you!
The cop needs to find real problems, not this.
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Mudd
Nov. 21, 2012 at 8:23pmThis has been the strangest thread I’ve read in a long time. Thanks for the laughs. In my opinion, and it’s only an opinion, uninformed and nothing personal, Ghost wins by tko.
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Eastinfection
Nov. 22, 2012 at 4:57amDUST….
“The only child I see is a 3 yr old and you!”
Technically that would be “children”.
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starman70
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:02pmThis officer made a huge mistake and really overstepped the bounds of good judgement but to be fired is far too harsh. Yes, he should have been made to issue an apology to the parents and he should have been suspended for a month without pay. To fire an 18 year veteran is as bad as the lack of judgement he used.
The mitigating factor, for the city, might be if he had been in trouble before. Has he ever been cited or disclipined for anything? Has he ever shown a lack of respect toward citizens he has come into contact with? Maybe we aren’t getting the whole story.
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:08pmAgreed. Lacking any other issues, a bit of retraining and perhaps an apology would have sufficed.
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rdawwgy
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:58pmYou can’t retrain and 18 year officer – this man is a complete control freak – I’ll be you if we did a psychological exam of the officer he would FAIL immediately. I would expect to see notations of “Napoleon complex” and other issues with this officer.
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:04pm18 year officers get training all the time (not necessarily re-training, but still training). Ohio has been re-training cops (at least in my neck) on CHL and open carry the last few years. I suspect that some of them have served at least, if not more, than 18 years.
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rdawwgy
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:16pm@GHOST – You’re from Ohio, so am i – I was just there (Cleveland Area).
The state of Ohio is a slum compared to where I live in California (on the beach). So you just lost that point.
Moreover, you sound like a government worker – so it begs the question. How do you know so much about policemen and are you a government worker.
Now, do you really want to tell me how I couldn’t afford to live in your subdivision?
How much taxpayer money did you get/steal?
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:22pm@Rdawg
Cleveland is a dump even to other Ohioans. And California is hardly bragging rights. So you pay a lot more taxes, get a lot more intrusive government, and you can’t even carry a firearm for self defense.
Yeah buddy, you really got me there, lol.
Is this really how you pass your day, starting scrapes on the internet with people who simply offered their own opinion and take on articles? Really?
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Sully9378
Nov. 21, 2012 at 10:52pmI bet he was fired for one of two reasons.
1: He has a history of making poor judgement and when this one went national the way it did the town thought “now is our chance to get rid of him”
2: His firing was a knee jurk reaction to this story going into the national news.
My money is on the former of the two.
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jackact
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:00pmMeanwhe the Occupy Wall Steet vermin that crapped on a NYC cop car last year walked scot-free.
Oh, I forgot….
OWS is endorsed by the POTUS, mayor Bloomturd and many rankIng members of congress.
:(
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hauschild
Nov. 21, 2012 at 2:59pmEither it’s legal to urinate on your front lawn, or it isn’t.
If it is, why would you fire a flatfoot for enforcing the law???
It’s typical of people these days; blame the messenger, or more appropriately, blaming enforcers instead of legislators. Why blame cops when idiots make these laws??? It’s asinine, really.
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desertspeaks
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:11pmurine nazi!!
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RightUnite
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:11pmC’mon…. Seriously… A 3 year old?? How many 3 year olds do you know who can actually comprehend LAWS???
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:23pmAnd how many do you know that still need potty training?
3 years old and still can’t crap in a can? Really? Dang.
(this is not really a comment on the article nor the actions in the article per se)
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Nov. 21, 2012 at 2:58pmI’m sure Officer Qualls had better police work to do than to ticket a mother, because her son is in potty training.
Police are hired to “Protect & Serve.” Where does this fall under Protect and Serve?
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:07pmAccording to the SCOTUS, they are not in fact required to Protect or Serve individuals at all. This is one of the prime arguments used to open up concealed carry in most states (or was rather, now that they’re all mostly open except Illinois and a few other states).
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blackyb
Nov. 21, 2012 at 2:58pmBoys like to pee outside. They need to be trained to pee where it is no in public, etc. Who want to grow up and be like Billy Carter peeing in public? That little guy will get it one day. Some girl will see him and tease him and he will get ashamed of himself.
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Dismayed Veteran
Nov. 21, 2012 at 3:08pmThis is simply early training for future golfers.
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Bluefish49
Nov. 21, 2012 at 2:57pmSomething tells me they were just looking for a reason to get rid of this A-hole….
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GhostOfJefferson
Nov. 21, 2012 at 4:24pmMost likely the case. Sometimes you take whatever you can when it comes to dumping the bad employee.
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Arc
Nov. 21, 2012 at 2:57pmIt was a slow crime day.
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blackyb
Nov. 21, 2012 at 2:55pmHe needs to retire, it seems his idea of chasing criminals is warped and desperate, perhaps due to his bad judgement or he is aging out to where he is not effective as law enforcement.
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