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100-Vehicle Pileup on Texas Interstate Kills 2, Injures Dozens: ‘It Is Catastrophic’

100 Car Pileup on Texas Interstate Injures Dozens, Kills Two on Thanksgiving

Cars and trucks are piled on Interstate 10 in Southeast Texas Thursday Nov. 22, 2012. (Photo: AP)

(TheBlaze/AP) — Two people died and dozens were hurt Thursday when at least 100 vehicles collided in Southeast Texas in a pileup that left trucks twisted on top of each other and authorities rushing to pull survivors from the wreckage.

The collision occurred in extremely foggy conditions at about 8 a.m. Thanksgiving Day on Interstate 10 southwest of Beaumont, a Gulf Coast city about 80 miles east of Houston.

A man and a woman were killed in a Chevy Suburban SUV crushed by a tractor trailer, the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) told KFDM-TV.

100 Car Pileup on Texas Interstate Injures Dozens, Kills Two on Thanksgiving

Families walks from the massive pile-up accident on Interstate 10 in Southeast Texas Thursday Nov. 22, 2012. (Photo: AP)

Officials at Acadian Ambulance service said at least 51 people have been taken to area hospitals and at least eight are critically hurt.

It wasn’t immediately clear how the pileup began, but According to DPS a crash on the eastbound side of the highway led to other accidents in a dangerous chain reaction. There were multiple crashes on the other side of the highway as well.

Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office Deputy Rod Carroll told The Associated Press the fog was so thick, the deputies didn’t immediately realize they were dealing with multiple accidents.

100 Car Pileup on Texas Interstate Injures Dozens, Kills Two on Thanksgiving

An emergency worker walks past a pile of cars from the accident on Interstate in Southeast Texas Thursday Nov. 22, 2012. (Photo: AP)

“It is catastrophic,” Carroll said. “I’ve got cars on top of cars.”

DPS trooper Stephanie Davis told KFDM that at least 100 cars and trucks were involved in the accident, and that firefighters had to cut people out of the wreckage during the more than 8 hours that the eastbound lanes were shut down.

She added that uninjured drivers tried to help as authorities responded to the unexpected crisis.

100 Car Pileup on Texas Interstate Injures Dozens, Kills Two on Thanksgiving

Emergency workers carry a victim across the Interstate 10 median after a massive auto accident in Southeast Texas on Thursday Nov. 22, 2012. (Photo: AP)

“It’s just people helping people,” Carroll said.  “The foremost thing in this holiday season is how other travelers were helping us when we were overwhelmed, sitting and holding, putting pressure on people that were injured.”

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Comments (69)

  • SeekerEmerald
    Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:57pm

    Most people driving on the highway are aware of what’s happening far in front of the guy in front of them. They are viewing the lanscape FAR more than 6-10 car lengths ahead. This means that people start braking well in advance of serious issues on the road. We don’t wait until the guy in front hits his brakes before we hit ours, because we can see far ahead of him.

    The problem with fog is we lose that advanced vision, almost like a form of tunnel vision. All we know about the road ahead is that the guy ahead is still driving. We can’t see very far ahead of him, if at all. We are relying on HIS reaction times to avoid an accident to keep up safe from hitting him. All it takes is one person hitting something, and the rest of the pack will accordian together in a chain reaction. This doesn’t happen in clear weather very often, even though there are thousands of these accordian incidents every day during rush hour all across the country. Chain reactions of more than 3-4 cars a rare in clear weather, because people react to what’s a few cars in front of them.

    People can’t see a few cars in front of them in dense fog, so we have the chain reactions much more frequently in those conditions.

    One BIG problem with fog is people don’t react the same to it. In the same conditions one driver may think 40 is OK, while another thinks 25 is better. That’s a recipe for disaster.

    Add to that the total lack of lane discipline that SO many people have, and

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  • SeekerEmerald
    Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:48pm

    OK, so based on what I am reading in the comments, we are all perfect drivers. Great.

    Now, why does nobody mention the fact that fog can appear thick or thin? 1 car length per MPH sounds fine, but what if you can’t see the car in front of you? If you can’t see anyone in front of you, how far away is the next car, and at what speed is he travelling? How many car-lengths CAN you see in the fog you happen to be driving in?

    If everyone IS driving 1 carlength per 10 MPH, that’s all well and good if everyone slams on the brakes, but what if someone hits a stopped car? In that case 1 carlength per 10MPH is NOT sufficient to stop. A 2010 Honda Accord takes 137 feet to stop from 60MPH. That is FAR more than 6 car-lengths.

    If you are driving on the highway at 60, and you ARE following 6 carlengths behind the guy in front of you, and he hits a stopped vehicle, you WILL hit the guy in front of you. You simply CANNOT stop your car in time, EVEN if you reaction time was ZERO.

    Even if everyone was following at a safe distance, it only takes one driver to cause all the vehicles to come together in the fog. You may be able to see the guy in front of you just fine, but you can’t see in front of him, and if he messes up, your grille is wrapped around his bumper.

    Let’s say the visibility is 200 feet. Then it suddenly drops to 50 feet. Now what? Hit the brakes and get hit from behind? ease down your speed not knowing what’s ahead?

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  • LoneStarGigger
    Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:38am

    First off, I hope all that were injured in this wreck recover quickly.
    Secondly, I doubt that these folks were driving even close to the speed limit in these conditions, would you? Then don’t assume all of these folks were speeding, it just makes you look stupid.
    I have been on this stretch of I-10 many times, the fog can be awful in November and March.
    I have seen just as foggy conditions on I-75 from Chattanooga to Knoxville Tn, and that stretch has many more fog related chain reaction wrecks than this stretch of I-10, so to blame Texans is idiotic as well.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 10:49am

      It has nothing to do with the speed limit and everything to do with how close the cars were to each other. If you do not maintain at least one car length per ten miles per hour, then you are dangerously close to the driver in front of you.

      I see it all the time. People act like the highway is a line at the bank and other drivers who want to cha ge lanes are trying to “cut in line.”

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 11:37am

      Here are some simple and fun facts:

      If you’re driving 60 mph, then your car moves 88′ in one second.

      Normal human reaction time is 0.2 seconds. That means from the time someone’s tail lights hit your retina, it takes 0.2 seconds for the signal to reach your brain and you can begin to move your foot to the the brake pedal.

      At 88 feet per second, your car will move 17.6′ before you can begin to move your foot to the brake.

      The problem is speed, time and distance. It’s that simple. If you don’t leave one car length per Gen miles per hour between you and the car ahead of you, then you are a stupid, dangerous a-hole. You will be responsible for crushing someone’s kids to death in the back seat of their car.

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    • hillbillyinny
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:40pm

      @ jacen

      If you are suddenly enveloped in fog–which DOES HAPPEN!–you may have been traveling at a very safe distance, but you then loose track of perspective as does everyone else, and unless all slow down at just about the same speed, you can be where you don’t want to be VERY QUICKLY, or the person behind you can be!

      God be with the families of those lost in this holiday season and all who this impacted. And may the Great Physician guide the doctors, therapists and pharmaceuticals of all injured and more involved.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 3:35pm

      @Lonsestargigger
      I’m sitting and reading this story while listening to Jay Severan’s fill in on Blaze radio talk about how selfish this nation is becoming with the black friday (certainly NO capitols who could respect what this is turning into.) mobs, and gang type fights and riots going on the injuring, etc. while I read in this story about uninjured drivers assisting overworked emergency personnell with the caring and first aid of the injured, what a difference in the two stories. The malls may have had crazy people coming in for the early sales yesterday, but in TX that wasn’t the case at all. The people involved in this huge crash, immediately go to help those who are injured worse. Wow! Definitely a whole lot more encouraging!

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  • TeslanEdison
    Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:40am

    It’s very sad, I’ve driven that section of highway you can see all the skid marks from accidents in the past as there are quite a few narrow with no shoulder corridors. Also at issue there are not many exits either, as I’ve driven all over the country the general rule is you pull off at the nearest exit if the fog is too thick to see the traffic ahead of you, or the lane markers. I know people were in a rush to get some where, but being delayed an hour or two vs being injured or killed is not a bad trade off. In the end it’s solved by putting up road closure “zero visibility” gates with massive yellow fog lights warning that the highway is closed due to visibility conditions, if we do it in Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Colorado, for blizzards why not for extreme fog? Typically weather conditions like this happen/ reoccur in the same areas, it’s up to the State and county to put up adequate visual warnings as they have the ability to make/ buy road signs and gates. It would be nice if Garmin and other GPS manufactures had emergency bulletins on the units similar to EBS warnings, but only for the road you are traveling. They do it for traffic and construction, on the cheaper units but not for weather.

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  • TheCalmOne
    Posted on November 23, 2012 at 5:36am

    God is in control, isn’t he? Why did he allow this to happen?

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    • Talmid of Yeshua
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 6:10am

      Why did He allow someone like you to be born? Simply put… shut up troll.

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 6:46am

      @Thecalmone
      That’s a good question I’ve often asked myself when things like this happen.
      My guess is only God can answer that one.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:41am

      Because He gave us free will.

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    • m1ss1ss1pp1
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:08am

      No, God is not in control. We are. Free will. We make the decisions on how we live our lives. Example: If we loose someone we love in a car accident because of a drunk driver, it is not God’s fault it is the drunk driver’s fault. When a child dies people blame God, but no it was not his fault, it’s the fault of whatever caused the child to die. People just find it easier to use God as a scapegoat. We are on this earth to learn, learn from mistakes, to grow etc… we can’t do that if God interferes with this process which is why he gave us free will.

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    • kcares
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:13am

      Everyone has free will, we chose God, or we chose to drive fast because getting somewhere is more important than the ride. Out of all those cars, so far only 2 dead. That is pretty amazing at that speed.
      God is in control, but HE allows you to make stupid decisions.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:43am

      I would say ask him when you get there, but I don’t think you’ll get the chance. My words of wisdom to you are: Stop, drop and roll doesn’t work in he77. Better get right, now.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 11:05am

      If God was in control we’d be mindless puppets like you. What would be the point of life if God was in control? God didn’t make a bunch of people drive too close to each other and too fast for the weather. God just set the rules of the universe. It’s our job the live with them.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:47pm

      Can you imagine what God’s life would be like if he had to intervene with every little thing in this world? Our time on this earth is for a short time. God never guaranteed us an ever lasting life in the flesh. We have ever lasting life when we die and have accepted Jesus in our lives. Until then we could die tomorrow, next week, or we could die 40 years from now.

      It is tragic whenever any one dies especially when it is from something as tragic as this accident. From the carnage my guess many of these cars and trucks were driving too fast for the conditions. I have seen this in my own state when driving conditions due to fog limit your visibility to 50 ft or less and a dust storm on I-15 from CA to NV and these idiots still drove 75 or 85 mph. I would imagine that some slowed down and the ones who did not rammed them, thus causing the pile up.

      God be with the two who died.

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  • Talmid of Yeshua
    Posted on November 23, 2012 at 4:15am

    Dumbasses following each other too closely, and speeding. Human stupidity caused this. Darwin Awards anyone?

    Anyone worth a damn knows that for every 10 miles per hour you traveling at you need to be that many car lengths away from the car in front of you.

    I follow that rule, and I’ve had no problems…. except some morons get pissed because I’m actually doing the speed limit, and they tale me too close…. my answer, I slow down, and if they don’t pass me, I break check ‘em. They hit me from the rear, it’s their fault and the accident report will show that… but I’ve never been hit yet… most of the morons road rage and pass me.

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 6:17am

      Did you read the story, especially the part about the fog?
      You have the nerve to talk about people being stupid.

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    • m1ss1ss1pp1
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:58am

      Talmid, I agree with what you said, I am a truck driver and wheather in a car or truck, you have to keep your distance. How many pileups in the fog do you have to hear/read about to know it is dangerous to drive in fog! If you are bound and determined to drive in the fog where you cant see a thing, then don’t be surprised when one day you find yourself in one of these pileups. That is called STUPID!!

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 10:37am

      What’s stupid is not understanding how this happens and how you can get into trouble before you know it. You can be driving in clear conditions and within seconds you can enter into zero visibility. I mean zero visibility. That’s the zone where it all takes place and once you have entered it there’s no escape.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 11:08am

      Bless you! Exactly right.

      The twit who mentioned the fog doesn’t even use his brain. Had drivers left the appropriate amount of space, fog would not have been an issue.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 11:14am

      Blue eyes, if you lose visibility and immediately reduce speed, the jerk driving 8′ from your back bumper is going to slam you into the guy 8′ in front of you.

      If you’re 80′ from the driver in front, and the driver behind is 80′ away, all three of you are 99% more likely to avoid colliding. Who cares how quickly you lose visibility if you give yourself space/time to react.

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 4:32pm

      @JAYCEN
      So let me get this straight all 100 drivers were not spaced properly? Does that make sense to you?

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:17pm

      I didn’t say that. Your statement was a strawman argument you created.

      No, under my theory, it only takes 2 idiots to start the chain reaction. Most likely it was several sets of idiots travelling too closely and fast for the weather, and the rest ended up slamming into them.

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:28pm

      @JAYCEN
      I see now, it was several sets of idiots. That clears it all up.

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  • Atrocities
    Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:36am

    Man do we ever need a five day waiting period on having pile ups. Lawmakers should come out and demand that the car industry install smart technology into all the cars to prevent things like this from happening. In fact the Administration should pass legislation making it illegal to have pile ups. There is no excuse, in to days world, for pile ups like this. —– J/K

    But it seems that liberals look at these tragedies as opportunities to pass more laws and regulations.

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    • Uranium Wedge
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 1:17am

      You gotta love it when the ad before the news clip is longer than the news clip.

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    • Salamander
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 2:02am

      Acura has radar in the RL model. It will automatically alert to an obstruction and apply brakes if the driver fails to do so. However, this might prevent one driver from hitting another, but it won’t prevent a truck from piling into you from behind. Fog is really dangerous as you can go from CAVU to Zero-zero in a heartbeat!

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    • Ed_North
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 5:18am

      I garuntee you that this pile up was caused from what mosttraffic accidents are, people not paying attention. Read fresh political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/

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  • rickc34
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:41pm

    Prayer to the family that lost loved one..Prayers for the injured for healing..looking a the wreckage it could have been much worse.

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  • THXll38
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:10pm

    Lucky I got insurance because FedEx aint delivering my package. Damn truck is totaled.

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  • JeffMT
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:45pm

    Since conditions were this bad and there was literally zero visibility, apparently, why wasn’t the highway closed by the Texas state police until the fog was no longer a problem.

    In blizzard conditions, roads get closed all the time until the wind stops blowing and drivers can see. I’ve been forced to drive in white out conditions a few times over the years and was very grateful to be able to get enough of a glimpse of the side of the road for a couple of seconds to get over there and off the road until the wind slowed down enough to where I could see to drive again. Snow, fog, doesn’t matter what it is – you can’t drive in it when you cannot see and the road has to be closed until drivers can see. I would be curious to hear from the Texas state police as to why they hadn’t done that.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:39am

      The “You can’t hurt me, I’m a Texan” mentality.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 11:45am

      Yes. Wait for the government to do it for you. There’s no reason adults using common sense couldn’t successfully navigate that stretch of highway. The State wasn’t required at any point. The problem is these people didn’t use common sense.

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    • JeffMT
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 11:30pm

      Jaycen: The job of the state patrol is more than to just write speeding tickets, respond to traffic accidents and drink coffee . It is to provide for the public safety, which in this case means to close the highway when near zero visibility conditions exist.

      There is a reason law enforcement agencies are given the authority to act in the interests of public safety and that is to use that authority when appropriate, such as when a major freeway is covered with fog and unsafe to drive on.

      Save your blanket anti-government drivel for someone else. There is a time and a place for government to provide assistance to the public. Given your ‘logic’ I suppose you would be opposed to having the US military protect the American public in the event of an attack on the country by an enemy, reasoning that the individual citizens can just take care of it themselves.

      Get real!

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  • claymoremacm
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 8:42pm

    Fog can get so thick on the gulf coast you literally can not see your hand in front of you face, I experienced this at Eglin AFB durring my time there. In thick Fog shoulder rumble strips can be a god send….pull over at speed over the rumble strips on to the shoulder slow quickly only when on the shoulder, then get off the shoulder as far to the right as you can and stop hopefully then you will be safe, Slowing in the travel lanes is suicide.

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    • Winedude
      Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:40pm

      Thick for pervades the California central valley for 3 month a year during the winter. I’ve had friends killed on I-5 during a thick fog multi-car accident like this one in Texas. I feel bad for the families of the deceased and the injured…what a lousy Thanksgiving. It turns out that folks all over the country are lousy at driving in the fog. The worst is a white car that won’t run on their lights…

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    • SeekerEmerald
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 1:14pm

      pull over AT SPEED? What if there happens to be a car parked on the shoulder?
      OK, so some say slow down gently in the travel portion, then pull onto the shoulder. Now, someone behind you might slam into you. OK, that’s no good.

      The bottom line is that hitting a sudden patch of dense fog is a recipe for disaster, and there is no way to guarantee a safe way out of it. Note that I said GUARANTEE.

      Driving is dangerous, and there is always a risk.

      What would I do?

      Put the flashers on, slow down gradually with the brakes, and hope that the guy behind me is doing the same, and that the guy in front of me isn’t driving with no lights at 10 MPH.

      Never use high beams in fog.

      Lots of people reading these comments are probably NOT familiar with the kind of fog others of us have seen. On I-64 in Virginia there is a section of interstate that actually has lights built into the roadway to assist one in keeping on the road during heavy fog.

      Some parts of the country just don’t get it as thick as others, so if I tell you that one can’t see more than 25 feet, it is NOT an exagerration.

      Slower is better, but don’t be a hazard. You’ll be injured far less by getting hit from behind than by running into something assuming the same speed differential and vehicle weights.

      On a clear day I’m one of the fastest drivers on the road. In fog, I usually get passed by at least a couple people driving blindly into the mist.

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  • DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 8:39pm

    Sure glad all my family got here the night before. That morning fog can be wicked!!
    All it takes is one little mistake & everybody behind gets caut in the pileup. So sorry for loss of life and all the damages. It’s really hard to buy, a new car these days, credit is tight.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 8:37pm

    reported

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  • Proud Stray Dog
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 8:31pm

    Keep the spam in the can, freak.

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 8:28pm

    If more people would leave about 3-5 seconds of space between each other, actually use turn signals, and slow down in conditions like that, there would be fewer accidents. Bad driving is a pet peeve for me, as I have driven on the job for the past 25 years. People are getting worse. They act like thy are safe inside their car and would do or say things to you that they would NEVER do on a sidewalk.
    I wish these people well and prayers for the families of those who lost their lives.

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    • drs1969
      Posted on November 22, 2012 at 10:03pm

      I’m glad it’s not just me. They are gettig worse! Last year, I had a speeder nearly rear-end me. I pulled off, he then started at me in reverse in his P/U. I called 911. Deputy comes out and tells me there’s nothing he can do and to stay off the road if I don’t want to get hit! I told the dumb-a** deputy he was going to kill someone driving like that. Turns out the guy was his buddy at the local firehouse. Fast forward to this past Oct. 10, this same speeder gets killed on his motorcycle, on the exact same road he nearly run me over on. He would have made an excellent FedEx driver.

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  • Taquoshi
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 8:07pm

    Reported.

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  • right-wing-waco
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 7:53pm

    Its in Texas, its Bushes fault.

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  • djeffcoat
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 7:46pm

    They raised the speed limit on this stretch of highway to 75 mph. All traffic, trucks and cars run at 80-85 mph on each others tails consistently. The truckers hog the road. And no one respects heavy fog. It just pure luck only 2 people were killed.

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    • Captain Crunch
      Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:17pm

      Truckers don’t “hog” the road out on I-10. I know because I drive I-10 in a big rig several times a month. We are very considerate of other drivers and very safety conscious. It’s you stupid four wheelers who cause the accidents. Learn how to properly merge, pass, and stop being an idiot when you are contending with an 80,000 pound giant on the road and you might live longer. You apparently don’t have a clue as to the type of driving skills which are required to drive a truck. If you did you would show some respect for trucks sharing the road with you. Just be thankful it wasn’t you out there in that fog!

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    • djeffcoat
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 10:16am

      And if you aren’t one of the idiot big rig drivers who have cut me off every time I have driven that stretch of highway, some of your fellow drivers are. They do hog the road. Do you live in fantasy land? I guess you voted for Obama.

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    • SeekerEmerald
      Posted on November 23, 2012 at 1:30pm

      I certainly can’t speak for your experiences, but having driven over 1,300,000 miles, much of it on interstates, and all of it while on 2 or 4 wheels, I can tell you that I’ve NEVER seen a truck do anything blatantly to a 4 wheeler that didn’t do something stupid to the truck. Yeah, I’ve seen plenty of trucks ride some 4 wheeler’s tail to get them back for something (which is totally NOT professional, and not the norm, and indefensable) but I see FAR FAR more 4 wheelers doing stupid stuff to trucks.

      Not knowing any details, I’d suggest that if you are having THAT many issues with trucks, there must be something about your driving that brings it out. Perhaps you lack common lane discipline, or perhaps you are doing something else to fire them up, but I’d look in the mirror first. Just a suggestion, but keep in mind you’ll come out on the losing end if you get into a wreck with a truck.

      I learned a long time ago, being RIGHT but DEAD is not better than being ALIVE.

      Seriously, I am not attacking you, or your driving, just suggesting that there may be something you are knowingly or unknowingly doing to torque these drivers off.

      These guys deal with jerkwads all day long, so anything you can do as a favor to them will be much appreciated, and may just keep you out of an accident.

      If they want to pass you, let them. If they want to merge, let them. You can always get around them again later, it’s much easier for a 4 wheeler to do all these thin

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    • djeffcoat
      Posted on November 30, 2012 at 8:04am

      According to the black boxes recovered from the 18-wheelers involved, the initial collision was between an 18-wheeler and a 4-wheeler. The big truck crushed the the car, killing the couple in it. Reports say that the Texas Department of Public Safety will file charges of vehicular manslaughter against the trucking company, and possibly the driver. I stand by my observations that SOME 18-wheelers hog the road.

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  • Former_Road_Finisher
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 7:45pm

    You should see the mess on the other side of an overpass on a curve when traffic traveling at highway speeds hit the black ice that is on it. Thankfully, I slowed down when I saw what looked like a nut on that bridge waving to traffic. After fishtailing all over the place in the van till I got across, then I saw the numerous other cars and trucks piled up in the medium and ditch on the other side.

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  • TheMajority
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 7:18pm

    You know darn well a progressive, or progressive thinker caused it. They are just dysfunctional people.

    But—Your going 70 with a lot of traffic, and all the sudden, you drive into dense fog. What do you do? You know somebody is going to slow down, so you can’t stay on the gas. You know if you slow down, you have a good shot of being hit from the rear.

    I don’t know about that area, but “tail gating” is done a lot around my area. It is a dumb thing to do. I wich our Police would crack down on it.

    You have to slow down and leave lots of room (if you can see enough), but everybody has to do it. If you see fog ahead, going fast, slow everybody down who is behind you (if you can) while everybody can still see, before you enter the fog.

    My money says the progressive thinker just stopped, right in the middle of the road (in the fog), hogging both lanes, and started assuming the fetal position.

    Yes,–that is how dysfunctional they are. They can only deal with a crisis—when they cause it.

    Bad crash. 2 gone, and I hope the rest heal 100%

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  • LOTO
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 7:16pm

    No surprise to see Fedex in this. They are the worst tailgaters around. I’m not alone in that opinion. Its like they are taught to follow to close.
    So many wrecks happen from following too close.
    Yes there was fog but come on, 100 cars? Its pretty evident.
    Its so sad to see things like this.

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    • endthemindlessspending
      Posted on November 22, 2012 at 7:29pm

      It’s not just FEDEX tractor-trailer drivers all over the place think they own the road. I know some of them are very respectful but many are just aholes. I live at an exit on a highway, that is a major truck stop and it use to be a mess with them cutting people off and running people off the road. So glad they changed the layout and put in lights and more lanes.

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  • kenboo1
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 7:14pm

    Just think about the insurance company that gets this claim…

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  • neverending
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 7:04pm

    It is just such a tragedy but I can’t help but ask where did common sense go? Wish them all a speedy recovery and thoughts and prayers for those who lost loved ones.

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    • kenboo1
      Posted on November 22, 2012 at 7:12pm

      Common sense isn’t that common anymore.

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    • kenboo1
      Posted on November 22, 2012 at 7:13pm

      Neither is common courtesy

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    • TheMajority
      Posted on November 22, 2012 at 7:24pm

      I could have hapened to anybody here. I try to minimize the risk by simply staying away from people as much as I can. That way, I figure, nobody can hit me. :) It must have been a real thick fog that just “popped up”. If you were in the middle of that pack (or I), we would have been there too IMO.

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  • Gary_K
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 6:56pm

    Therw is nothing like driving in fog at 70 mph on the freeway….what a rush.

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  • hatchetjob
    Posted on November 22, 2012 at 6:38pm

    Get a real job!!

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