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Feds to Designate 9.6 Million Acres as ‘Critical Habitat’ for Spotted Owl

Nov. 22, 2012 8:40pm Erica Ritz

Spotted Owl Granted 9.6 Million Acres of Critical Habitat Land | Agenda 21

In this May 8, 2003, file photo, a northern spotted owl named Obsidian by U.S. Forest Service employees sits in a tree in the Deschutes National Forest near Camp Sherman, Ore. (Photo: AP)

(TheBlaze/AP) — The northern spotted owl is expected to be allocated roughly 9.6 million acres of forest land to protect it from extinction– roughly twice what was dedicated during the Bush administration in 2008.

The full “critical habitat” plan will not be published until next week, but the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has announced that areas of Oregon, Washington and Northern California will come under its provisions, almost all of it federal lands.

The amount is down from nearly 14 million acres proposed last February, but far exceeds the 5.3 million acres proposed in 2008. The biggest cut came in private timberlands — 1.3 million acres. State forests covering 271,000 acres remain.

Following a directive last February from the White House, officials revised the latest plan to make room for thinning and logging inside critical habitat to reduce the danger of wildfire and improve the health of forests.

Noah Greenwald of the Center for Biological Diversity said it appeared the critical habitat plan and the previously adopted owl recovery strategy were back in line with the Northwest Forest Plan adopted in 1994 to protect owls and salmon.

“In restoring extensive protections on federal lands, today’s decision … marks the end of a dark chapter in the Endangered Species Act’s implementation when politics were allowed to blot out science,” he said. “The owl has continued to decline since its protection under the Endangered Species Act. Part of the reason for that is the loss of habitat on private and state lands.”

But Dominick DellaSala, chief scientist for the GEOS Institute and a former member of the spotted owl recovery team, objected to plans to log and thin forests inside the critical habitat area, saying no studies have been done on how it could harm the owls. He added that one study shows it reduces the amount of prey available.

“We need to focus on protecting and restoring our remaining mature and old-growth forests across all lands, so we can recover endangered wildlife and produce sustainable jobs in rural communities,” Joseph Vaile, the program director of the Klamath-Siskiyou Wildlands Center in Ashland, Oregon added.

The designation of the spotted owl as a threatened species in 1990 triggered a 90% cutback in logging on national forests in the northwest, and similar reductions spread around the nation.

Even so, the spotted owl has seen a 40% decline during the past 25 years, Fish and Wildlife officials said.

The Bush administration tried to undue some protections for the owls and other species to allow for more logging, but the effort was turned back in court.

The timber industry reserved detailed comment on the latest proposal until it can look at the full plan.

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(H/T: Gateway Pundit)

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Comments (298)

nighttrainno9
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 10:15pm
God, this stinks of AGENDA 21. This exactly what the feds will do
nudge by nudge until they own all the land. (look at the published
map of what the US will look like under AGENDA 21. This is pure
communism, a few thousand acres would more than enough for
the owls, but why would they need protection anyway. They either
make it or they don’t, just like us.

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- TheTruthPrevails
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 10:19pm
  Not really going to matter…China will get the land as soon as they call in their loans…and you know well, China will strip the land of all timber and start drilling ASAP!
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:26pm
  Agenda 21 is a conspiracy. Its just a simple measure, just a suggestion really. its not even law. and all it does is help the environment stay a little cleaner, and help poor people some. Beck is just hyping it and blowing it WAY out of proportion to sell his book.. as usual. he makes his living off of your guys willingness to except whatever insane thing he says as fact.
  
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- Chet Hempstead
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:58pm
  Get a grip, guys. The Endangered Species Act has been around since 1973, when it was signed by that infamous Communist, Richard Nixon, almost 20 years before there was any such thing as an Agenda 21.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 3:04am
  Chet Hempstead – It’s not a democrat/republican thing.
  Chet, were you of an age above 15 back in ’73? Think of the times going on around you. Nixon was a lifelong politician… He came off the election with a 60.67% popular vote and a 96.7% electorate vote. Only Mass (54%-43%) & D.C.(78%-21%) voted against him.
  
  A man with an ego and fierceness when losses occurred as well as wins. He loved to be loved. Major changes going on around him. He would only bend, or appease, in cases like Endangered Species Act, to keep that section of the disenchanted from adding fuel to the fire of discontents.
  
  So bringing Nixon into this is a moot point.
  
  The current U.N can do whatever they dream but this is the U.S. – Article 2, Section 2 of OUR Constitution states of the elected President; “He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;…”
  
  The largest bastion of thought and independence that other citizens around the globe want to emulate.
  
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- AbrahamsSheepdog
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:20am
  Trickery! They ain’t trying to save owls. Humanity is being sold. Our inheritance!
  
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- claymoremacm
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:26am
  Remember the photo of a spotted owl nesting in a K-mart sign? the only thing I want to go away are Gov’t unions
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 10:11am
  Time for the all States to take back all federal land as it’s UnConstitutional for the Federal Government to own any of it. Let the voters in each state decide what’s best for them……The Constitution is the Federal Law…….And all powers not granted or denied to Congress shall revert back to the States………………………..NOW WHERE IS CONGRESS GRANTED THE POWER TO ARBITRARILY ALLOCATE LAND FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 10:12am
  The creation of an agency DOESN’T SUPERCEDE the Constitutional Laws the Federal Government must adhere to
  
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- artistskeptic
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 10:19am
  Keat, your naivety is astounding.
  
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- iampraying4u
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 11:45am
  May the great spotted owl do do do on your head
  
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- OlderCowGirl
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 11:55am
  I worked for the Forest Service from 1971 to 1985. I wrote Environmental Reports. I worked w/Timber logging. This is nothing but a land grab by “preservationists”.. Note that the owls are declining regardless of the protection. Critters have been going extinct every day for a long time.
  
  If they want to create a “natural forest”…fine. But no fire suppression, no trails, no thinning, no logging, no body in the forest. Let it be all natural. Then who should pay for the reconstruction of homes/farms burned by fire? Save all the critters but kill the human fetus?
  
  I like our trails and roads and thinned areas in the forest. Logged areas not only provide lumber for our homes but food for the deer and elk. I believe that forest fires have a purpose…to clean up the trash on the forest floor…and provide food for the critters. What “environmentalists/preservationist’s don’t understand is just how hardy and adaptable our forest critters are. Cranes will nest right beside a logging road. I had a Pileated Woodpecker 12 feet from my front door eating fall Dogwood berries. This bird is really big, noisy…and protected. I walked up to that bird and yelled and waved my arms just to see what it would do. It just kept eating those berries and squawking the whole time. I watched it for an hour. This bird is not afraid of humans, or logging. There are plenty of areas already designated for it’s habitat. I live surrounded by this bird’s habitat…and many
  
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- thegreatcarnac
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:02pm
  Nighttrain…you are right.
  
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- GroverCleveland
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 1:01pm
  KEATON is right. Beck did not actually write the novel, he merely purchased the rights to it. Now he’s hyping it up. And it IS a novel–a work of pure fiction. The actual Agenda 21 is a multifaceted, non-binding agreement aimed at sustainable development. You can read the entire text at the U.N. website. Or you can read the novel, tell yourself it’s real, and start hording soup and ammo, and looking ridiculous.
  
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- dianna9490
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 1:54pm
  America has got 2 stop this narcissist! It has started n our cities and that’s wher we hav 2 stop it first! Without the cities counties and states going along – they hav nothing 2 control!
  
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- Buck Bagaw
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 3:24pm
  Well Grover, When you come after my soup you’ll understand the ammo part. As for Agenda 21, it’s just another chip out of our freedom’s foundation, so who cares. Right?? This reminds me of a poem not by the late Henry Gibson. There once was a man from…oops, that’s not the one, lets try again. ‘The consummate difference between liberals and swine, is that swine deign to defecate upon where they dine’(BB 11/12)
  
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- BlueStrat
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 3:51pm
  All you have to do to know this is nothing more than a Federal land-grab ala Agenda 21 is to ask one question.
  
  If the spotted owl is declared extinct or no longer endangered, will the lands be returned to their previous log-able/hunt-able status, or, as is most likely, will the lands remain restricted by the Feds?
  
  It’s almost enough to make one want to take extended hikes through these northwest forests, seeking out and destroying every spotted-owl nest and clutch of eggs along the way. A very hard thing to prove in court if one takes a few common-sense precautions, especially since there wouldn’t be any dead owls for evidence. Winds knock down these nests all the time.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 5:52pm
  OlderCowGirl – Just as we had figured but confirmed by someone with first hand knowledge/experiences. Writing the papers, I salute you ma’am!
  
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- Wolf
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 5:58pm
  We can all thank the great Jimmie Oberstar for much of Agenda 21 and the environmental laws on the books today. His ‘wetlands’ and other tree hugger enviro weenie bills began sucking America dry in the 70′s and are being implemented even today.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:30pm
  Wolf – Thanks wolf,I really don’tt need nor have time for more research, but…
  You’re forcing my hand to expand my knowledge of the crapola.
  
  :) Serious note… I’ll start reading up on him… Thanks
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:02pm
  Keaton
  They won’t even give OWS a 1/4 acre to crap on. Hahahaha.
  
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- RockyMountainPATRIOT
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:10pm
  @CHET
  The original UN Earth Summit happened in Stockholm… in 1972.
  
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- Linda2955
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 10:19pm
  O yes. It is certainly agenda 21
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 10:23am
  Oooooh yes, preserving wildlife – that must be the United Nations plan to start up FEMA camps and march all the Christians into the death camps.
  
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- MetaphysicalJustice
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:44pm
  Wildlife officials propose killing barred owls, which are taking territory from spotted owls.
  Northern spotted owls earned a place on the endangered species list due to habitat loss from logging and fire, but their biggest nemesis now is an East Coast cousin.
  
  Larger, more aggressive, more adaptable barred owls moved West in the 1960s, found food and shelter to their liking and have since displaced spotted owls throughout much of British Columbia to Northern California. Spotted owls declined 40 percent over the past 25 years, and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service says they may go extinct in some parts of their range if something isn’t done about barred owls.
  
  So it means to kill them. Perhaps hundreds of barred owls will be shot — “removed” is the gentler agency word for it — during a 3- to 10-year experiment in tightly defined areas of Northwest forests. Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar said the government “can’t ignore the mounting evidence that competition from barred owls is a major factor in the spotted owl’s decline.”
  
  The fate of spotted owls has been at the heart of the “timber wars” since they were listed as threatened under the Endangered Species Act in 1990. Killing one species to benefit another, however, is a drastic action that troubles scientists and activists on either side.
  
  A draft environmental impact statement to be released soon includes options for capturing barred owls instead of killing them.
  
  Google “spotted owl barred
  
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- Hobbs10
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 4:33pm
  Agenda 21 has been creeping into our way of life for quite a few years. Look up the Wetlands Act-EPA it all fits together, how they are running our lives and most don’t even know it or care. Plus beware of anything connected to the UN. Germans thought the gas chambers were a conspiracy, until it was to late.
  
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- toto
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 8:06pm
  Another interesting factoid is that another owl species is more successful and are outperforming in the habitat, so the plan is to kill off many of them, to help the spotted owl. For folks that believe in Darwinism, they certainly are determined to never allow it under their watch.
  
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TheTruthPrevails
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 10:14pm
People don’t realize that if you don’t thin forest areas of old growth then nature will do it for you in the form of forest fires…and where doers that leave this stupid bird?

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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:27pm
  what do you have against the spotted owl?
  
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- QuincySmith
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:19am
  keaton;
  
  Personally, I don’t have anything against the spotted owl. I respect its intelligence, which is measurably 3.6 points higher than yours.
  
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- booger71
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:24am
  what do you have against the spotted owl?
  =============
  If you knew anything about forestry, you would realize that the quickest way to kill an old growth forest is not to thin it out. Fish and Wildlife along with the Center for Biological Diversity need to take a long dirt nap.
  
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- sanurakitty
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:53am
  Me Thinks somebody protests to much(keaton333).
  i wonder if its rascists white hating, master knows that it
  is even posting on this blog.
  
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- txn4justice
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 4:30am
  I like my owls cleaner, whiter and blemish free.
  
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- jhrusky
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:38am
  Being surrounded by forests nearly all my life, yes, it is factual that old growth forests are much more apt to burn down when not managed properly by clearing fallen timber and thinning what gets too thick. Something as simple as a lightning bolt can cause fires that devaste thousands and thousands of acres, not to mention tens of thousands of animals lives, protected or not.
  
  That said, I believe it is important we protect species that are in danger of extinction. While species always have and always will become extinct, there’s no reason to not try and prevent it when we reasonably can. As much as I am against Agenda 21, I do not see this as being a part of it. Man needs to learn to live in harmony with animals of the world, as without them, man will not survive either… we have a symbiotic relationship with our world and need to respect all God’s creatures as He put them there for a purpose (not just the purpose of entertaining us).
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 10:48am
  Keatonc333
  what do you have against the spotted owl?
  ***
  What do you have against people?
  
  I bet environMENTALists would not allow bow hunting because it would disturb the owls. In reality it disturbs the environmentalists sense of power & religious aesthetics
  
  Never mind that Indians hunted with bows for 10,000 to 40,000 years in the same forests with bows, spears & fire.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 10:55am
  Man can live without animals; he can live with plants alone.
  
  So we do not need them. But I would rather have them around.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 11:00am
  I can see wood furniture getting more & more expensive. I can see IRS agents at estate auction waiting to collect. I can see people like Keaton wringing their hand saying there needs to be a government program helping people get a leg up so they can buy furniture.
  
  After all the metal comes from ores that are mine; the plastics come from oil that is pumped; the wood comes form trees that are harvested. These are all activities that Keaton abhors.
  
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- G-WHIZ
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 11:12am
  As long as K-MART exists, THESPOTTEDOWEL will have a place to live…us-govt to sequwester all
  K-MARTS!!
  
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- Ballot_Box_Revolution
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 11:23am
  Jhrusky
  
  …But this is not about living in harmony with nature, and animals, it is about severing all ties between the two. The same people who support and fund this believe that man should not have interactions with nature, because Man is the plague of the earth in these peoples minds..These are the same people who want to take away your dogs, cats, and every form of “animal slavery”….go ahead and laugh, but it happens in baby steps…we will get there eventually….It would be much easier to force it onto people except for this pesky constitution…
  
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- OlderCowGirl
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:26pm
  Well said Truth Prevails…fires kill critters…and damages streams worse than logging. Forest fires have their purpose…burns the trash. Benefits some and kills others. Sorta resets things.
  
  Keaton333…you know nothing about which you speak. You are a romantic w/out facts. Typical Dem/Prog. See my other post. I once debated a young man who was “passionate” about the environmental cause. I asked him “Where do you get your information?”. He said, Newspapers. And you believe that Newspapers know for sure what they are writing? Then I asked him his age…he was 18 yrs old (looked much older). Then I told him ” You are not old enough to have gathered the decades of information it would take to make an intelligent opinion about our forest environment, not to mention your lack of forestry experience”. After providing him with more facts…he conceded that he was ignorant about the subject.
  
  All people…everyone…cares about our forests. This is another fact that preservationist’s don’t understand. Loggers know and love their forests. Loggers understand that we can clear-cut areas and plant…and still have a wonderful forest remaining.
  
  I must concede however, that there are several business people who would rape our forests for the sake of money. Therefore our forests do need protection to an extent. But if the preservationist’s/aka Environmentalist’s had their way…there would be no logging at all.
  
  Lumber and toilet paper comes from
  
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- jhrusky
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 1:56pm
  @ ballot_box_revolution
  
  I agree with you that there are nutcakes on the environmental side, but so are there on the “I can live without animals” side as well (many of them right here). Not all people who want us to try and protect endangered species are nutcakes. Many of us want to just enjoy all God has given us, which includes spotted owls. We believe our intelligence is given us so we can find ways to coexist. That is the problem with so many things in the world today …everyone wants everything for themselves and everything else be damned. That doesn’t sound real Christian to me. I want to believe that God would want us to find ways to preserve species He has supplied; to ensure forests remain large enough to supply us with clean, fresh oxygen; to ensure we don’t pollute our earth beyond repair as some civilizations have done in the past and are doing today.
  
  Common sense is becoming rather hard to find anymore :(
  
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- smv803
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 5:42pm
  What can you expect from one with watermelon for bains? Did someone forget to tell him not to eat the seeds?
  
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- WATER-THE-TREE
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:35pm
  JHRUSKY — I don’t think you get what he meant, what will happen is that you won’t coexist with animals because this habitat will be OFF LIMITS to you and I, step one foot on the feds land and you go to the NDAA Siberia of the US of A. what good will it be to be told that the owl is fine yet never have proof because you can never see one. There will be millions of owls that you will never see!
  
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workathomer
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 10:11pm
Plus farmers in California denied irrigation water to say some bait (delta smelt) costing thousands of jobs. Progressive’s “conservation for the benefit of man” morphed into radical biocentrism where animal rights trump human values.
Meanwhile, over 3,250 babies are aborted each day in the U.S. Our priorities, concerns and values are upside down. Two generations essentially raised without basic moral values and virtue part of the reason. Please pray for a spiritual revival and a 3rd great awakening for the USA.

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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 3:39am
  That is what ticks us off, when they have so much more important things to do. They go and make this move instead of what matters.
  Are they here to govern and to do what’s in the best interest of the governed or to play Mother Nature?
  
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- OlderCowGirl
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 2:09pm
  @ Walkabout
  You said “Man can live without animals; he can live with plants alone.” You can live eating plants alone…for several years. What you don’t know is that you must have animal protein (not just nuts and beans) in order to live well. By the time you discover this fact…you will have damaged your body…perhaps irreversibly. It is a fact that Vegans are the most unhealthy folks on earth. But they don’t learn this for 10-20 years.
  
  Look up the wife/husband team that found out in their late 30′s how sick they really were: husband had a heart attack while jogging; wife who taught nutrition (vegetarian) changed her mind totally when she became “anemic”. This woman/wife researched and finally learned we do in fact need to eat meat.
  
  I’m 66 yrs old and I don”t get sick. I never take antibiotics or vaccinations anymore. I avoid sugar and grains. That means no bread, cereal, or pasta. I eat potatoes and rice. All seeds (grains) have a coating on them to protect them from predators like insects and certain molds, so that the grains/seed can sprout. Natures way. These grains must be soaked and preferably sprouted to be digestible to humans.
  
  I eat fermented vegetables (probiotics) and lots of real butter, coconut oil, and meat/fish/poultry. Eat olive oil/nuts on salads. I eat very little fruit (sugar). Mostly meats and veggies, fresh or fermented. My blood pressure, & cholesterol are perfect. I, woman, work hard everyday, farming.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:57pm
  OlderCowGirl I’ve read that corn & beans have a complete set of proteins that have what people need. I have also read that there plant in Mexico that has a complete set of proteins (that people need). The Aztecs use to mix it with the blood of sacrifices & eat it.
  
  Mike Savage has told the story of a pregnant woman married to a doctor who was on a vegan diet while pregnant. She lost her teeth.
  
  I think we could get by on plants alone, but I’ll check on that. I am not recommending it. In fact to me hunting is every bit of a tradition as it is to the Eskimos. And who questions their right to hunt?
  
  Then again to take a page from nature there is probably a reason that mosquitos suck blood in order to exist. Most of the time they can live off plants, but to get over the hump in terms of nutrients & energy needed for procreation, they …well are meat eaters after a fashion.
  
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TheTruthPrevails
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 10:11pm
That stinking spotted owl has caused tens of thousands of Americans their jobs, ruined the timber industry and the economy here in the Pacific Northwest. Why? Because some idiot liberal tree-hugging moron environmentalists….who gives an rats a$$ about this stupid bird…it contributes nothing, there are so few of them that their extinction will mean nothing to the habitat they live in…jeez, let them go…it’s natural. Survival of the fittest and all that…

But I digress….in our society today it is more wrong to chop down a tree that an owl might, maybe, could possibly live in or not than it is to end a human babies life at 4 months old in the womb.

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- MeMyselfandThree
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:15pm
  What makes it worse is that since they can’t be disturbed by humans, other species of owls have moved into Spotted Owl territory and are killing them off.
  
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- 1TrueOne55
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:33pm
  What is really amazing is that these so called scientists can’t even figure out where they have gone? If they don’t know that question then who believes that their solution will even work. It reminds me of the story a friend told me about a video that floated around the pre-YouTube internet, where an environmentalist saved a seal and raised until it was healthy enough to release back into the wild and off the beach when they released the seal that day was a hungry Killer Whale that ate the seal as soon as it got far enough off the beach.
  Nature will take care of itself and if these morons really believed in Darwin’s Theory of Adaptation instead of Evolution they would realize that species come and go around the world that we may never know about and the planet did not end.
  
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- BIGNINTHENORTHWEST
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 1:39am
  The barred owl is the competitor that is endangering the spotted owl, so the feds are talking about cutting its numbers down! Didn’t I read somewhere that you don’t mess with Mother Nature? Now they are also proposing that if an eagle nests in a tree on PRIVATE lands that nearly forty acres will be off limits to the owners for any use whatsoever… One only has to drive the roads throughout the west in timbered areas trying to find a working mill to see who or what is truly endangered.
  
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- jhrusky
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:53am
  It’s so sad to see people like you and others here truly not giving a rat’s ass about wildlife and any other species besides man. It is a fact that man is pushing farther and farther into wildlife territories and that is causing specific animals to migrate to other places and in the process, some near extinction. Natural extinction is a part of nature, but man pushing and causing that extinction really is not.
  
  If there birds are already on what is federal land, what’s the problem with protecting them? The forest should be able to be responsibly maintained, that is certain, but there’s nothing wrong about protecting species that are residing in that forest. The only downside would be that those of you with blood-lust to go and kill something cannot. God didn’t put animals on this earth for man to abuse and use as his entertainment and whim. He put them here and made man the protector and ‘master’ of those animals, and expected him to use good animal husbandry principals.
  
  Without animals, we will not survive. It makes no sense to not care about their demise. Claiming something has no use just shows someone’s idiocy on the subject as all animals have place and purpose in the chain of life. There are ways man can grow and evolve (even those of you who think man doesn’t evolve) and live in harmony with animals and protect those that need protecting from sickos that would harm them for their amusement & from those whowoudl just let them die out of convenience.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 10:01pm
  In the state of Washington the loss of logging jobs hit hard. Jobs decreased Section 8 housing increased & Washington in now a blue state.
  
  Way to go Democrats! Brave New World indeed. Got to have your Epsilons!
  
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- retiredfire
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 10:57am
  REMEMBER THE ANGEL ISLAND DEER.
  Here in the SF bay area wer some deer that had overpopulated and island in the bay (Angel Island).
  The suggestion was made to sell deer tags and let hunters cull the herd.
  Oh! The horrors! That would be cruel, let’s move the deer to where they can live peacefully.
  So, the deer were airlifted, at a cost of $10,000 each, to a remote area of northern California.
  The newly transplanted deer, being unaccustomed to their new evironment, were unable to adapt and edned up dying of starvation.
  The moral? Getting caring people involved in nature’s way, which is harsh, frequently causes more harm than good.
  
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Sr Newk
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 10:10pm
Looks like this could be an Agenda 21 item in hiding which means to Praise the Animals, Praise the Earth, and Praise the Authorities who make decisions without our opinion or vote. I Praise my God and also give thanks for His Blessings. We need to recognize and resist this type of onslaught with all of our might.

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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:30pm
  YOU GUYS ARE SO DUMB! Agenda 21 is nothing! its not a law.. its a suggestion more than anything and the U.N. barely even works on it! I mean I get you guys oppose a clean planet and helping the poor, but this is ridiculous! Agenda 21 is nothing! its just Glenn beck trying to sell a book and profit off his manufactured fear again and you guys are too stupid to notice.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 2:10am
  Keaton – “…its a suggestion more than anything and the U.N. barely even works on it!”
  
  How many other things throughout histoy were just suggestions that came to fruition?
  Was the Declaration of Independence to the King was just a suggestion of what they only believed?
  Magna Carta, U.S. Constitution, etc…
  
  With ideas come suggestions to conversations to considerations to enactment of said ideas/suggestions.
  
  You say…?
  
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- OlderCowGirl
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 6:08pm
  @Keaton333…and @Grover Cleveland…so if Agenda 21 is a non-issue as you both indicate…why did 178 countries vote to adopt it??? Found at Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21
  “Development and evolution of Agenda 21
  The full text of Agenda 21 was revealed at the UN Conference on Environment and Development (Earth Summit), held in Rio de Janeiro on June 13, 1992, where 178 governments voted to adopt the program. The final text was the result of drafting, consultation, and negotiation, beginning in 1989 and culminating at the two-week conference.”
  
  The first sentence at this site states that Agenda 21 is voluntary…but 178 countries voted to adopt (read implement?). I don’t remember voting or debating on it? So, If our country (I’m assuming) voted to “adopt”…what do you think will happen after awhile? Hmmmmm?
  
  What do you think adopt means…no action???
  
  Wake up folks and smell the bacon.
  
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Maxim Crux
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:56pm
Government is the biggest polluter and the biggest waster of resources. After that, it becomes unions. How about 9.3 million acres of no government and no union.

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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:31pm
  HAHAHAHAHA where on earth did you get these statistics?
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 3:48am
  Government Owned Land in acreage:
  Area of States – 2,263,221,000.9 Owned by Fed – 588,134,000.76 by State – 197,524,000.1 by BLM – 246,779,000.02 USFS – 192,239,000.12
  
  NPS – 174,101,000.32 NWR – 88,987,000.33 Army Corps of Engineers- 7,841,000.51 Military Bases – 17,437,000.42 Tribal Lands – 44,570,000.2
  
  State/Fed Owned – 1,224,676,001.00 Percent of Land – 68.822797%
  Privately Owned – 1,038,544,999.90 Percent of Land – 31.177203%
  
  What a lot of lost taxable funds not being collected…
  
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- OlderCowGirl
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 5:47pm
  Hey Keaton333…read the article again…first sentence, “(TheBlaze/AP) — The northern spotted owl is expected to be allocated roughly 9.6 million acres of forest land to protect it from extinction– roughly twice what was dedicated during the Bush administration in 2008″. Please learn to read and retain. So he was off by 1/3 of a million.
  
  BTW…We Blazers/Conservatives love our planet and our plants/fish/animals. And we detest you Lib’s for killing small babies/fetuses and ONLY care about saving whales, fish, animals, etc. I’d really like you to protest as much for baby humans in the womb…aka…abortions.
  
  We love our forests…and believe they are ours. We are the government. We own the forests where the animals live. We love animals…for their beauty and meat.
  
  What the heck makes you think we do not care about the poor??? I’m help care for my younger 2 brothers and younger sister who are handicapped, on disability, BECAUSE they’ve never had a job. They were lazy and became fat…and therefore, sick and on disability. Our mother taught them. I give in Church. I give garden veggies to my poor neighbors. I help my neighbors. So what makes you think we conservatives don’t care about the poor??? If I gave any more… I could not give at all.
  
  NOTE: You can only save just so many people before you begin to drown yourself.
  
  Lib’s must think they have the patent on “helping the poor”. Scripture says “If you do not work you do not e
  
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Gary_K
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:52pm
he Barred Owl is displacing the Spotted Owl and may even be cross breading with it…sounds like nature is having her way to me.

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- Gary_K
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 10:01pm
  The…
  
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marine249
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:52pm
me thinks blaze is trying to tell me
that today is 4/1/2013

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1snake1
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:51pm
Its truly astonishing how short-sighted and pig-headed you blazebots are.

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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 10:57am
  User Profile: 1snake1
  
  Member Since: July 10, 2012
  
  Sock puppet # ???
  
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- smv803
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 5:45pm
  @walkabout….our friend finetapestry wannabe, ya think?
  
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marine249
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:45pm
this d*%^& will not print everthing

with Bar-B-Q

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piplovestheUSA
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:38pm
I finished Becks Agenda 21 this moring. I think everyone should read it. I am ready for part 2.

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- charles116
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:03pm
  Written by Harriet Parke
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:09pm
  Charles116 is Dora Gasbag……. LMAO @ Dora !!!
  
  And so should you.
  
  You can run Dora but, you can’t hide. : )
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:32pm
  Congrats! you are one of many who’s stupidity Glenn Beck has yet again been able to profit off!
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 12:57am
  TO ALL OF THOSE DOUBTERS 41,300 results on website
  To all of you saying that this is just to sell books, may I direct you to the UNITED NATIONS…
  
  From the United Nations website
  Searched for ‘agenda 21′ Results 1 – 10 of about 41300
  
  http://search.un.org/search?ie=utf8&site=un_org&output=xml_no_dtd&client=UN_Website_en&num=10&lr=lang_en&proxystylesheet=UN_Website_en&oe=utf8&q=agenda+21&Submit=Go
  
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Gregb
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:34pm
spotted owl tastes great… let’s end this crap right now… This thanksgiving, substitute spotted owl for turkey… put an end to this madness… butterball owl!

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Al J Zira
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:33pm
This Agenda 21 crowd won’t be happy until there’s a 25% decline in human population. Bunch of clowns whose priorities are all screwed up.

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- Gary_K
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:43pm
  25% ? Try 75% !
  
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- ginger100
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 10:00pm
  Target number is 500,000,000 and that is written in stone
  
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- SecSpec88
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 10:47pm
  GINGER100 nailed it. The Georgia Guide Stones. I would say if you’re really paranoid the Bilderbergers, but then again, you’re not paranoid when they’re really out to get you. Agenda 21 cometh.
  
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- txn4justice
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 4:45am
  R C Christian had the Georgia Guidestones made.
  
  Rosi-Crucian Christian perhaps?
  
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Gregb
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:31pm
this is crap… I’m a grey haired loon – how many acres do I get?

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- Mannamomof4
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 10:48pm
  giggles
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 4:21am
  GregB – “this is crap… I’m a grey haired loon – how many acres do I get?”
  You’ll get a room about 50ft x 50ft or 1/19th of an acre.
  The standard size of a prison cell is 6ft x 8ft or 48sf. So feel fortunate.
  
  Let’s do the math… An acre = 43,560sqft 43,560sqft = 208.71ft x 208.71ft
  Per 2010 Census the avg single family home = 2,302sqft
  1/19th of an acre = 2,292.5sqft
  Then to answer your question NOT MUCH!
  
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right-wing-waco
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:24pm
Another 1.6 million acres STOLEN by the federal government. (Article 1, Section 8, US Constitution)

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- right-wing-waco
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:29pm
  Oops, 9.6 million acres.
  
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njconserv
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:18pm
or say agenda 21 spotted owl is a cover

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cloudsofwar
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:14pm
this is more agenda 21, commie bull crap. the news is terrible as usual. at lease the redskins beat the cowboys. happy thanksgiving.

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- y2big1
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 10:32pm
  NFL games are all fixed really man it all about the line and the money. Country is going down and crappy football is all you can think about!
  
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neverending
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:08pm
And the bastard in chief has not even started his second term yet, A worse nightmare under his second term then the first if that is even possible but looks like it will be.

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IndyGuy
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:06pm
Can you say….LAND GRAB???

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- Stelex
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:14pm
  Yes, wasn’t that hard. ;-)
  
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- IndyGuy
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:16pm
  P.S…Time to tar and feather the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service….You can guess where to get the feathers…
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:17pm
  Seriously, being a redneck, gun owning, meat eating, plastic bag using bafoon, who keeps his clothes on, and does not, I repeat not….go in the out shoot. Those were hard words for me to form.
  
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Stelex
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:05pm
Look up Agenda 21 …..people its not a myth, its not a conspiracy theory…..its happening and this is how it’s happening. If you see ICLEA in any of your towns literature, your legislatures have accepted Agenda 21. Hear the words “Sustainable Development” your in trouble. Time to wake up, our Gov works for the UN with a global Agenda…….It will end badly for your children.

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elsiedinsmore
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:00pm
wow how to stop this under this current administration?? Just finished “Agenda 21″, the book. This tale shows what can happen when human life becomes only valuable as slave labor and the earth is the new “God”. That book is fiction, this story is not-be aware-get informed-fight back on the local level.

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endthemindlessspending
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 8:57pm
More Agenda 21 plans going into effect. National Government grabbing land and they will never give it up.

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banjarmon
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 8:55pm
Looks just like the owl I see here in Florida!!

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- 2gether
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 2:58pm
  …yes this reeks of Agenda 21 and yes the owl in the picture looks just like the owls we have here in NY…maybe they should check around the country because animals have been known to move about and adapt to its new environment. But seriously? Did anybody catch the lunacy in conservationists saying they will fight the thinning of the forest to prevent overgrowth which leads to uncontrollable fire issues for the simple reason that it MIGHT destroy the prey for the owl? REALLY!??? How much prey will be destoyed for SURE if there is an uncontrolled wildfire? Just sayin’
  
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environmentalandawake
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 8:51pm
Have you all noticed how they have a “One Size Fits All” approach to these issues? Fact is, properties and timber inventories have been taken off the market since the 90s, yet the Owl is still declining. Could some other force be at work here? Me thinks so. They never offer solutions. They are real good at living in the “Land of No!” I’ve walked amongst them, you have no idea what you are in for!!!!

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- marine249
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:43pm
  @CHIPS1
  
  small: but very good
  with lots of Bar-sauce
  
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RepubliCorp
Posted on November 22, 2012 at 8:46pm
As good Americans…… if you see one, shoot it.
Then there be nothing to save

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- neverending
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:01pm
  I say all of them!
  
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- chips1
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 9:15pm
  How are the drumsticks?
  
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- Lt_Scrounge
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 10:33pm
  Smaller than bald eagle but similar in flavor.
  
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- Winedude
  Posted on November 22, 2012 at 11:20pm
  Y’all are pathetic…
  
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- BlueStrat
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 4:23pm
  Start posting all your favorite spotted-owl recipes to all the top recipe/cooking websites. Start posting recipes for all the animals being used to justify Federal land/power-grabs.
  
  If the Feds and conservationists REALLY wanted to save the spotted owl from extinction, they would help some businessman start a new restaurant chain.
  
  Owl-Fil-A!
  
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- OlderCowGirl
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 6:33pm
  I love you guys…made my day to laugh.
  keep up the good work!
  …you do know that some trolling-libs don’t get the sarcasm.
  
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