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Black Friday Walmart Protests ‘Fizzle’ Out

Nov. 23, 2012 6:34pm Becket Adams

Black Friday: Union Backed Wal Mart Protests Fizzle

(AP Photo/J Pat Carter)

For weeks now, we’ve heard a lot about OUR Walmart’s plans to disrupt the big box retailer’s Black Friday sales. Media outlets breathlessly reported that the union-backed protests and employee walkouts might cause the company severe financial damage. Heck, even Wal-mart was reportedly worried about the union’s Black Friday plans.

So how did it turn out?

Well, to quote Megan McArdle writing in the Daily Beast, “the planned protests were mostly a fizzle.”

Indeed, despite the promise of disruptive protests of epic proportions, Wal-Mart is well on its way to breaking all previous Back Friday sales records.

Wal-Mart “says it has had the best Black Friday ever in the United States despite threats of walkouts and protests by employees over wage and benefit issues,” the Boston Herald reports.

“The world’s largest retailer said it saw larger crowds than last year and a huge response to its first-ever one-hour guarantee on a trio of electronic items,” the report adds.

Said Bill Simon, Wal-Mart U.S. president and chief executive officer, of the company’s Back Friday performance:

I’m so proud of what our more than 1.3 million associates have done to prepare and execute our Black Friday plans, giving our customers a great start to their Christmas shopping season.

The work of our associates is even more impressive when you consider they served approximately 22 million customers on Thursday.

How big were the company’s sales? Well, there isn’t a hard number yet, but early sales would indicate the company did very, very well.

“During the high traffic period from 8 p.m. through midnight, Walmart nationally processed nearly 10 million register transactions and almost 5,000 items per second [emphases added],” the Boston Herald report adds.

In fact, according to the same report, between 8:00 p.m. ET last night and 12:00 p.m. today, Walmart sold about 1.3 million televisions, 1.3 million dolls, and 250,000 bicycles.

Here’s a time lapse video of just one Wal-Mart location on Black Friday [via The Gateway Pundit]:

Meanwhile, SEIU members, #Occupy diehards, and operatives with Moveon.org were doing this [via The Nation]:

Funny thing though: Of the people who participated in today’s nationwide demonstrations, very few of them were actual Wal-Mart employees, meaning today’s action was a whole lot like the Service Employees International Union’s Wednesday protest of the Los Angeles International Airport.

“This is the way you get a fair shake. You’ve got to fight for it. You’ve always had to,” said protester Charlie May, of the Industrial Workers of the World labor organization, according to a report by the Associated Press.

“No Walmart workers in attendance at Mobile Walmart picketing,” reads one Alabama newspaper headline.

Needless to say, Simon is happy with how today turned out for the company.

“We had very safe and successful Black Friday events at our stores across the country and heard overwhelmingly positive feedback from our customers,” said Simon, adding that “Only 26 protests occurred at stores last night and many of them did not include any Walmart associates.”

Okay, so maybe the protests were not as big as some had expected. But surely those walkouts were problematic for the company, right?

“We estimate that less than 50 associates participated in the protest nationwide. In fact, this year, roughly the same number of associates missed their scheduled shift as last year,” Simon said.

Unsurprisingly, union leaders dispute Simon’s numbers. The union group estimated that “hundreds” of employees participated nationwide.

Now, to be fair, as Wal-Mart’s CEO, Simon has every reason to underestimate/downplay the number of employees who walked out. However, as McArdle notes, OUR Walmart has been awfully quiet on this topic, meaning the union-backed group “has not given any particular reason to disbelieve [Simon’s figures].”

McArdle continues, offering a possible explanation for why Black Friday turned out the way it did for the unions:

In any sufficiently large group, you can find a few people who will do anything. And 1.4 million is a very large group. OurWalmart does not need to prove that it can find fifty or even one hundred and fifty people in that group who are willing to walk off the job, nor that it can get members of the United Food and Commercial Workers to protest in Walmart parking lots. Organizing Walmart–or even extracting labor concessions in the face of threatened unionization–means getting a significant number of employees to join them in a labor action. This was not that labor action. It was not even the labor action that could eventually snowball into that labor action.

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… Black Friday bargain hunters apparently simply pushed past the scattered protests in search of cheap flat-screen televisions–and the progressives who seem most on fire about this campaign are not really very likely to be Walmart shoppers. Which could be a metaphor for the whole US labor movement.

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Comments (139)

castious
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 1:12am
When i was driving big rig i had a load of frozen to be delivered and the store chain was on strike,the union thugs said i coulld make my drop i said i could and would so i put in 2nd hit the hammer and i made it through the gate, made the drop once i was inside there were cops there and no hassel on the way out caues i dont think any of them union thugs wanted to be part of the pavement and i worked for a union in the past for about 6 months till i started my own business a a subcontractor i dont like unions at all

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- Scooby_Do
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 7:13am
  The unions are dying and they know it. That is why the need new blood from WalMart employees in order to keep the ponsi scheme going. Read fresh political commenatry at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
  
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- Bluebonnet
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 10:16am
  My first job years ago, I was asked to join the union. I refused. Over the years, I’ve seen and read all the horrid things the union thugs do and I know I made the right choice back then. Those union people have a hatred toward others and act just like the thugs they support with their hard earned dues money.
  
  Unions are unnecessary in today’s life. There are choices we can make on our own. I wouldn’t support a union for a few extra coins you get. By the time you put up with their crapola, pay the Union bosses huge salaries to stir up dirt constantly, what have you really earned? If you’re a Christian, you don’t want to be a part of this tyranny from these horrid people. God forbid.
  
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- Lucci
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 11:29am
  My first job was union in the mid 70s. I could not believe the level of laziness and rules time-studied to promote and protect the union jobs. Paid dues directly withdrawn from my company paycheck, I never used the union or had any need. But what were the result of the inefficiencies and lack of production quality, company closed the plant little at a time moving production lines out. Took 5 years but that union protection and quality cost thousands of jobs.
  
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- athynz
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 11:37am
  Way to go there trying to run people over. Great job! Really.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 1:24pm
  Ant
  He was teaching them. As you know, speed and weight can hurt. Look at the corpulant union thugs and the slovenly appearance alone. We could probably stroke out a good half of them with a single pig roast. We should get CAIR to sponsor a big old pig roast for the union fatties.
  
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- turkey13
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:25pm
  If Wal-Mart goes union they will just make all the regular employees parttime and send them home at 30 hours. The unions fighting and costing 18,000 workers their jobs at Hostess has a lot of folks rethinking about paying a $100 bucks a month to put them out of work. If they get out it will give them a big Christmas bonus.
  
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- jorskippy
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 6:59pm
  All the UNIONS see are dollar signs when they think about Wal-Mart…..1.4 million workers…They could care less about the working conditions of the employees..they want the money.
  
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- Scooby_Do
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 6:59am
  Read fresh political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
  
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- lillymckim
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 9:45am
  Robert Reich a man who’s own net worth is over 4 million wants US to BOYCOTT a USA company Walmart who employs US people and then out of the other side of his mouth asks for a $100 dollars for a “digital download” of HIS film “Inequality For All”?
  
  But of course I’m sure he’s donating all to a good cause!
  (CALLED HIS POCKET)
  
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- pdw
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 12:07pm
  Unions were great when the members ran them, but then later leaders found the deep pockets in DC and it has been down hill for a long time now. The members who are making great money still love their Unions and hate anyone who speaks out against the corruption are commended. I was a Union member from 1960-1970 and even then I have seem where companies had to sell off parts of their areas due to the high cost of Unions. We even had to go out because another city Baltimore was on strike and they came over to DC and picketed our stores and we were told we could not cross their lines.
  
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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:24am
That does bring up a good point. Why aren’t SEIU organizers and their tribes unionized? Why aren’t these people picketing SEIU for better wages and benefits? Seriously- They are that stupid they would be handed a sign and a day old slice of pizza and carry whatever sign they are handed, without question? $20-$50 bucks and be told – “do it for the cause”? What freaking morons..

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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:20am
You want a living wage? Move to Russia, Greece, Yugoslavia, Zimbabwe… Plenty of places where you can live in the upper crust of society, miserable as it may be… I’ll pay the fare..

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charles116
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:37pm
These people aren’t unionized.

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- Fubared
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 1:25pm
  Too skinny?
  
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scrudge
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:22pm
Ah Yes….. walmart took a DUMP on unions

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- Ditto Head
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:00am
  Perfect place to take a dump.
  
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- Richard Rider
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:00pm
  Unions took dump on THEMSELVES.
  
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Tri-ox
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:21pm
obama’s low-life occupiers/protestors/whiners/unionists, doing what they do best – FAILING.

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- Bluebonnet
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 10:46am
  Unions breed low lives for sure. Unions do one thing. They cause the price of everything to be higher than it should be for the retired people, those on welfare and those without jobs Good job unions! You and your unsavory methods cost the rest of us much more than necessary, to keep you living off the dues you squeeze out of everyone who’ll play your game. Bunch of union thugs with no conscience, living off the poor who have to pay for your lifestyles of greed.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 1:28pm
  Dbarbara
  0 was out walking w seiu whilst you were failing remedial English as a second language.
  
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hades3
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:19pm
Employees and union members who are protesting Wal Mart, some who are complaining about having too work on Thanksgiving instead of being home with their families, never stop too think about Americans serving their country in uniform far from home. As to wages, Wla Mart employees make more per hour than those in the military. My guess is a WAl Mart store is a much safer work environment than Afghanistan or Iraq. Too all union thugs and bitching Wal Mart employees, try growing a pair. Too Wal Mart employees, if you are unhappy, quit ! Oh I forgot you voted for the
outstanding job creator, Obama, that means job opportunities are plentiful, right ?

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- athynz
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 11:40am
  Really? WalMart employees make more than our military? So our military makes below minimum wage? Tell ya what there sparky, post some proof of this – come one cough up a comparison between WalMart worker’s pay and military pay… post a link. I’ll bet you wont because your theory is a lie and you do not have the data to back your theory up.
- earthrat
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:22pm
  ATHYNZ, that is a fact, I will not send you my pay stubs but an educated search (“military pay scale” will do it) will provide you with all the data you need. The military does not pay by the hour, they pay by grade. Combine that with the hours they put in and you have a person that is making much less than minimum wage. Let’s also not forget the job hazards that go with the job, making your comment prove your true disrespect for the people that are fighting and dying so you have the right to post ignorant comments like this!
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 1:34pm
  Ant
  Perhaps you should rethink your obstinate and willful ignorance. Or at the very least travel in a pack of stupidness for safety’s sake. Rarely have we witnessed rogue morons lasting too long. It’s for your own safety and health, and don’t take it personally.
  
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- devildogger
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 4:51pm
  Athynz, remember the immortal words of Mark Twain, It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
  
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- ONTHEMARK55
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 9:07pm
  Good call Devildogger, now everybody stop with all the “I can be ruder that you” comments and think/research before we speak! First off , does comparing wages of the military to any civilian job make sense? For the Record, Walmart employees Average 15k a year income, poverty level,( which means they can get goverment assistance while Wal-Mart becomes filthy rich, The tax payers thank you, Walton family) Wal-mart employees do not get free housing and medical. Buisness needs to be profitable, so do employees, THAT WAS WHAT MADE AMERICA GREAT! I gre up in the 60′s, my Dad worked at a mill(union) my mother had her own home cleaning buisness(non union) to supplement the income. We had a decent home in a decent neighbor hood, newer car and were able to take a vacation every year. Now, both parents must work, usually non union jobs, one better be 75k or above, have very little time to raise kid’s or take a vacation, all the while societ,neighborhoods,churches have all gone to ****! I’d blame the union’s, but the fact of the matter is, AMERICA WAS GREAT WHEN UNION’S, WORKING WAGES WERE GOOD. Before you attack me, check the working/living condition in the USA before Union’s, say 1920 and after, say 1980 when union’s were broken. I never liked the socalist leaning you find in union’s, but strong membership and buisness’s being fair eliminated any threat from the commies, this is America! Do the research, oh turn of Fox first (they even put Glenn down at every chance) thik f
  
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- mgh999
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 10:37am
  E-1 < 2 years (basically 18 and out of basic): $17,900 per year
  E-4 < 6 years $28,000 (~ 26% of enlisted ranks in Army)
  
  Of course this excludes any food or housing allowances that the member may receive if they live off base.
  
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v15
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 9:16pm
Da Vinci predicted the rise of Walmart and the fall of society. He saw and recorded these events as he was taken to the future by an Alien aircraft that spent most of the first five centuries since Constantine ruled.

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TerryJ70
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:31pm
There is a reason only 7% of the workforce in union. Look at Hostess as the most recent example. They have forced businesses to close because they cannot operate profitably while meeting all their stupid demands. For example, they would not allow the Twinkie to ride in the same delivery truck as a loaf of bread.

Unfortunately, our government is being run over by these thugs and we will be overcome with costs nobody can sustain. Now they and their POTUS can take total credit for creating class warfare that will destroy us. This has to end.

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- athynz
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 11:36am
  Here we go again with the Hostess myth – tell me HOW could the unions have brought down Hostess when it was the execs who all got 80-300% pay raises? And those same execs requested a couple of million to pay executive bonuses as part of their bankruptcy… And you want to blame the unions who were requested to take yet another paycut? Yeah it’s totally the union’s fault…
  
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- earthrat
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:26pm
  ATHYNZ is correct, this has nothing to do with unions asking for better pay for the employees. It has to do with wanting them to get the pay that was already cut so that executives could be grossly over paid. Hostess downfall was the result of greedy executives that should have been injecting Twinkies and not running the company into the ground!
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 2:46pm
  Ant
  How did that strike work out? Send your dues in and still get canned?
  
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- devildogger
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 4:59pm
  This is how STUPID people like Athynz are, they don’t comprehend that the people with the BRAINS to make the company operate profitably are more valuable to the company than the high school dropout who drives the delivery truck. Granted, getting the product to the retail outlets is important but, if you can’t do it PROFITABLY the company will fail. Y’see, not doing your best can have long term implications. And there are people who are willing to work so they can enjoy their lives. Even if they aren’t being paid the princely sum of a union delivery boy.
  
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- Goldstardad1
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 6:39pm
  Those 300 % raises were rescinded.
  
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- ONTHEMARK55
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 9:15pm
  Union workers did not ruin hostess, get of Fox and do the research. Hostess has had union labor for decades and was fine. After management/ownership changes they go BK? Hmmmmm. must be the UNION!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, TURN OFF FOX AND THINK FOR YOUR SELF!!!
  
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Sgt_Rock
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:21pm
Local TV news (Seattle) just reported on the protests at two local Walmarts. They said they found NO Walmart employees among the protestors. They did interview three OWS types that said they “travel the country going from store to store” in organized protests “to show solidarity with Walmart employees.” In other words, they are professional protestors hired by the unions. These idiots claimed they were joined by employees of the stores they were protesting, but when interviewed, the store managers said everyone was showing up to work and they didn’t see any of their associates in the crowd. But what I could see in the crowd are the typical idiots that show up at all the local protests regardless of who or what is being protested. All the dread-locked, unkempt, dope smoking, bohemians with their multiple piercings and body odor.

I have family members that work or have worked for Walmart. They say nearly all of this is generated outside of Walmart, not by the employees. In fact at our local Walmart they haven’t hired more than a couple of people since they opened in January, because no one has quit. They’ve fired a couple of folks, but for the most part people stay there. Doesn’t sound like the slave drivers the unions make them out to be.

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Iron_Wyll
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:19pm
I always wondered why Union activities weren’t subject to the RICO laws just like the mobsters. They employee similar tactics.

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Ted Zeppelin
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:02pm
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Do I really give a Chicago Sewer Rat’s (aka; Democrat) left testicle whether some ObamaPhoneMama expends more energy complaining than working?

Yo mama, if you don’t like WalMart, why didn’t you apply for the CEO position at some major corporation? Yo, is it because you have NFTS (No F– king Talent or Skills)?

Yes, you are one of millions of American Parisites who want something for nothing…. and speaking of nothing, that’s what you’re worth to this Country.

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dc21
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:57pm
Walmart fired their butchers when they tried to unionize, in Texas I believe, some years back. I don’t see any efforts to unionize walmart becoming successful. Walmart will play hardball and won’t allow it. Cashiers jobs were always designed to be lower wage jobs for students, etc. All jobs cannot be top tier paying jobs.

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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:42pm
This man was an economic titan and Barry and his group of collectivists currently destroying capitalism reject everything he stood for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca8Z__o52sk

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- skippy6
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:54pm
  Good Vid!!! Reminds me of the book I read a few years back… The politically incorrect guide to American history by Tomas E Woods Jr.. There was a chapter on unions …If I can remember right the unions cost us to the tune of one trillion dollars..Unions are a net loss for everyone as is the minimum wage……
  
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- Bluebonnet
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:01pm
  I hate unions, I hate union thugs, I hate people who try to block entrance to other work places. Unions are NO GOOD~ they want people to join their unions, pay satan’s dues to support the union leaders and to hell with the workers.
  Some people are happy having a job. Unions won’t allow those to work, who want to work where they want to.
  DOWN WITH UNIONS. Why should the rest of us consumers pay more for products just to give the unions more dues money? Do any of you really think the unions will reduce the costs of items?
  
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- athynz
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 11:48am
  “BLUEBONNET
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:01pm
  I hate unions, I hate union thugs, I hate people who try to block entrance to other work places. Unions are NO GOOD~ they want people to join their unions, pay satan’s dues to support the union leaders and to hell with the workers.
  Some people are happy having a job. Unions won’t allow those to work, who want to work where they want to.
  DOWN WITH UNIONS. Why should the rest of us consumers pay more for products just to give the unions more dues money? Do any of you really think the unions will reduce the costs of items?”
  
  I used to be one of those so-called union thugs you carry on about. Tell me why should we support a company where the execs give themselves 80-300% raises after asking their rank and file workers to take yet another pay cut and benefits cut? Do you really think that with unions out of the way that companies won’t go back to enforcing working conditions like we had prior to the Industrial Revolution? Do you really think with unions gone that companies will not keep on cutting pay and benefit for their workers? Take a look at the price of foreign vs domestic vehicles… they run pretty close. How come the foreign – non-union made – vehicles are not cheaper than their domestic union-made counterparts? Your first sentence told me all I need to know and that giving you the facts will not change your irrational hatred of unions. So sad that you cannot see the forest for the tree in front of you. I real
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 1:46pm
  Ant
  So in essence you want your old fat cat union thugs to supersede fed worker laws and get rid of OSHA? How do you get fat bastids to actually work? I’ve seen peanuts work under the big top, but outside of that how do you do it? What I find really telling is that you once had to pay someone to speak for you as you were shy or incompetent. But now that you have more coin from not paying those fat bastids you bought a pair? Good on you for waking up and being your own person. Did all of your old shop stewards live in trailers on the wrong side of the tracks or just like white collar mid mngmt? Trumpka said youz guys was maroons. There you go.
  
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- WebEagle
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 4:40pm
  Anthraxine needs to take a couple classes on economics. I can believe he was once a union thug, he’s got the mindset.
  
  Fact is, there was a time, long LONG ago that the unions were actually a necessary evil, and they did do some good in a very limited number of cases. That was the distant past.
  
  We have laws now enforcing everything the unions tried to accomplish. Good work. Job done. Now go home.
  
  The unions of today are, with NO notable exceptions, criminal outlets for extortion, price fixing, electioneering, and criminal trespass. They should be outlawed across the board. Only the money they extort from often unwilling “members” allows them to buy the necessary political allies to stay in business at all. This is NOT “how business is done”.
  
  The fact that only 50 Wal-Mart employees nationwide joined in the “protest” shows that they have more good sense than the union bosses (and “ex” union thugs).
  
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EveF.Destruction
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:31pm
If you want a “liveable” wage, you should be prepared to do a little more than carrying a sign demanding one or work at a low-skill job like Walmart or McDonalds. Walmart estimates they had 5 million job applicants last year. News Flash — you as a worker are NOT in demand and will be paid accordingly.

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- skippy6
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:39pm
  Yes, and if you voted for Obama get ready to work for the collective…Resistance is futile……
  
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rsanchez1
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:27pm
You know, if they stop insisting on protecting “mom and pop” stores, and let Wal-Mart sell their much cheaper products, then the wages paid at Wal-Mart are suddenly much more liveable than the wage paid by “mom and pop”.

I wonder if anyone explained that to the idiot holding the sign in the picture. Heck, I wonder if anyone even explained what the protest was about to that woman.

“Here’s 20 dollars and this sign, hold it and follow whatever the protest leader chants.”

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- ONTHEMARK55
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 9:52pm
  That’s right RSANCHEZ1, here in oregon we need to be able to pump our gas so they can fire the pump jockey’s and charge less for gas like they in washington!! That’s right because without employee’s pumping gas the stations will charge less for fuel!!! That’s right because gas in washington is …ahhh…more per gal……thann in oregon…ahhh….i’ll get back to you on that.
  
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alrunner58
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:23pm
Losers, you’re typical libs. You don’t work hard, and except something for nothing. If you want more money go somewhere else and work, or is work the issue. Again, losers…

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TRILO
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:11pm
So the protesters were the union thugs and not the so called mistreated employees. I hate to break it these people but working at Wal-Mart is not what one would call a career path to financial success. In this employment climate people should be thankful they even have job.

What I find ironic is that if Wal-Mart were to unionize the prices would go up, sales would go down and the lower income people that work for them and need the low costs would have their food and other costs rise accordingly, diminishing any gain they might make through wages.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:28pm
  We had a grocery chain that had a few stores in our area. Had been here for many years and was very successful. One of the unions got their hooks into them. Prices went up considerably, and there were two strikes in less than six months for higher wages. The employees developed a nasty attitude, and they went out of business in less than a year after the arrival of the union. We used to do almost all of our grocery shopping at one of their locations that was near the house too. Yeah, really loved that union professionalism, so beware of that union label.
  
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- Baerlin
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 7:58am
  The unions are nothing more than a leech that lives off of the money of their members. It has to be made known that the leaders have larger salaries than most CEO’s in any large companies. That should be our argument. People like Trumpka see their cash floating away with the membership numbers dwindling.
  
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MasterJoshua7
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:10pm
I think I just got a tingle up my leg…

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Stoic one
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:08pm
Let’s see twenty bucks a month? That would be twenty six million a month in the union coffers. I am using the figures that were presented by the group that tried to unionize my former employer. and the union here has the same to offer….NOTHING.

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ICEDRAGON
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:07pm
Ban Unions!!!

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- bleuze
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:43pm
  No, you do not want to ban them. However, unions should not be exempt from paying their FAIR SHARE OF TAXES. Afterall, they are always asking for taxpayers money and use the money to BUY golf resorts for the union bosses!
  
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- Al J Zira
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 10:40pm
  I wouldn’t ban them. I was in a union for years but we never went on strike the 15 years I was a member. Our “demands” were always modest, I think the biggest raise we got was 3% over three years. The purpose of the union was, believe it or not, to keep talented people in the pipeline. We had schooling through the union to keep the skill level up, ownership would occasionally try to make everyone work unbelievable hours, which is fine if you can do it, but if you can’t managers would threaten you with your job. So it helped having a union for that reason also. We weren’t a public union so we didn’t demand taxpayer money which is the problem with public unions. They get what they want because it buys politicians votes and there’s no one to represent the people at the table.
  
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:03pm
We have the worst economy since the first depression and the union tools think it’s great idea to try and unionize walmart? It looks like the rational people won out,I guess the union pigs can try and destroy some other business.

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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:13pm
  Slayer – and about those at LAX airport protesting from the SEIU, when the home union for the airport said, ‘We’re cool with everything.’
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:34pm
  I responded but they didn’t post it so I’ll try again. It just goes to show you the union drones will jump when ordered. It would be great if we didn’t have to deal with these union parasites at all.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:59pm
  Living here in a ‘Right To Work’ state, Um Commonwealth of Virginia, I don’t miss Chi-Town
  
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- Bluebonnet
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:14pm
  All you have to do to see the hateful, angry, downright stupid union people, review the teachers in Wisconsin and how they acted during their protest last winter. If these stupid people were typical teachers, I’d teach my kids and home and never let them see true teachers with no morals.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:45pm
  BlueBonnet – “THE WORST DAY AT WORK BEATS THE BEST DAY OF JOB HUNTING” Quote from DadRocked.
  
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- ONTHEMARK55
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 9:58pm
  Worst economy since the great depression, lowest/weakest union membership since great depression, any correlation Progressiveslayer?
  
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DadRocked
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:03pm
Of course it ‘fizzled’… Wal-Mart had the gancha’s to say, paraphrasing, “NO WORKY – NO TICKY”
For you libs, You Do NOT get paid, nor will you ever again !

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DonaldH
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 6:59pm
I hate Wal-Mart–but only because it’s harder than H3LL getting in and out–but I went there today just to buy things I really could of done without and was hoping a union thug would hassle me— never happened– no one was there!!

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- 1TrueOne55
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 7:11pm
  My biggest beef with Wally World is that they have a large amount of product from “Communist” China and because that large country has bullied the rest of the UN to include items made in Taiwan. I would by Taiwanese made products since they rejected the Maoism of the Chinese mainland and fled to the Island of Taiwan when Harry Truman sold them down the Yangtze River for the Communist help to fight Imperial Japan.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:01am
  I build and sell R/C model airplanes. I buy ALL the electronics I use, from China’s distributors. Most of it is not available any where else and what I could use, that is manufactured in the U.S., costs 300%+ more….
  There is no way I could market my products without these electronics…..
  
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- Bluebonnet
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 11:27am
  MAX…………because the unions have price us out of everything and they still want blood. Can no one see this? The United States market won’t come back until we let people work and do their jobs without the stupid unions tying a string around our ****** at every turn.
  Americans can become competitive again if the unions would get out of our way. These companies who’ve moved out just want a fair deal the unions won’t allow, then our own government is always making up new rules to keep us from being competitive.
  Funny how the GE guy moved all his stuff to China and never a word from bama.
  
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- MAProg
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:00pm
  @Blue: so you’re saying we should emulate China? At the very least, it sounds like you’re advocating paying Americans what the Chinese pay their workers.
  
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Ben__Franklin
Posted on November 23, 2012 at 6:56pm
Its hard for them to Protest outside Walmart when they all ran inside grabbing up all the black Friday sweet deals. They will be back to protecting after the sales are over….

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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 23, 2012 at 8:47pm
  Mr. Franklin – “You Are Correct Sir!”
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:04am
  Dad….I still Rock……I’m 62.
  
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