We have witnessed public humiliation being used by the courts as recently as last week when a judge sentenced a woman to hold up a sign proclaiming that she was an “idiot” for driving on the sidewalk to avoid a school bus.
Image: Screen capture from Yahoo! News
For the record, the woman was sentenced to hold up that sign for an hour, on two consecutive days during the morning time when most school buses and parents driving their kids to school would be passing that area. She also had her license suspended for a month and was hit with a $350 fine.
But, TheBlaze is wondering if parents should be allowed to discipline unruly kids by embarrassing them in public?
It happened this week in Palm Coast, FL where one set of frustrated parents (Mike & Melinda) forced Jasmine, their teen daughter, to stand on a busy street corner with a sign declaring:
‘I sneak boys in at 3am and disrespect my parents and grandparents.’
According to the 15-year-old’s mother and step-father, Jasmine was out of control and would not conform to their rules. And they claim to have tried to punish their daughter by removing the typical trappings of teenagers. Mom Melinda explained:
“I’ve taken all her toys or her electronics away – her phone, no privileges on the TV or computer – and still she just laughs about it.”
After the latest violation, sneaking a boy into the house after the rest of the family was asleep, stepdad Mike took drastic measures.
Image: Screen capture from WESH video
The video report from WESH TV in Florida tells the story.
Many drivers honked in support of the parents and others actually stopped to express concern for the young girl. How do you feel about this kind of punishment? Take our latest Blaze poll (and feel free to submit your own questions on the topic).
Is humiliation acceptable punishment?
(H/T: WESH TV)
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Comments (245)
zoro51
Nov. 24, 2012 at 12:11pmto shame them for what they did YES. ow a days kids dont respect. plus the parents arent as strong to say NO . DONT. restrictions.. my mother did restrictions on me it sucked but i endured it i respected my parents may not have a greed wiht the methods BUT I DID WHAT I WAS ASKED N TOLD.. did i mess up YES… but i was not a burden to my parents unlike my ex sister was…
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v15
Nov. 24, 2012 at 1:34pmYou choosing to be openly gay is the crux of the disagreement between you and your mom. Shaming kids publicly….I think in a way you are right because it teaches nothing to other kids. This shows lack of imagination by the parents – better methods could be used. Many kids fall in line but if you punish a kid without an increase of love afterwards, he will hate you.
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SLEUTH
Nov. 24, 2012 at 4:15pmfor what its worth. humiliation doesnt work for all kids. they learn to miss behave in school from other kids. most of the time its not the parents fault. there is nothing you can do. stop voting for progress’ who in turn put progressive judges in power over parents. we have no one to blame but ourselves. we get what we ask for.
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WATER-THE-TREE
Nov. 24, 2012 at 7:27pmWhatever works, what works for one may not work for another. I hope one day the girl will realize that they did this because they really DO love her.
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Git-R-Done
Nov. 24, 2012 at 10:50pmV15 – If it were up to demented liberals like you, parents would be sent to jail for disciplining their kids.
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ToddH
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:35pmTitle of article: “Should parents be allowed to humiliate kids?”
Leaves me wondering:
“Should parents be allowed to do……….ANYTHING?”
Is that the question?
I mean, just what are today’s parents allowed to do anymore?
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ToddH
Nov. 25, 2012 at 12:02amAfter watching the video, I see what the problem is here:
The biological mother is standing there shrugging going “I don’t know how to deal with my kid. Is this the right way? I’m not sure.” While the stepdad (NOT biological) is saying, “This is our last step before she will land in jail.”
Okay so problem 1:
The parents are NOT a united front. This punishment needs to be coming down firmly from BOTH of them. One parent should not be second-guessing the other, especially a biological mom questioning a disciplinary stepdad. If the mom had concerns about this punishment, she should have expressed them first to the stepdad behind closed doors. Once she decided this is what they are going to do, she needs to STOP with the whole “I dont’ know if this is right” -shrug.
Problem 2:
The stepdad is helping the mother to assign himself blame in the mind of the kid for the punishment. The teenager really should be clueless about whose individual idea this punishment was. She should be under the impression they both agree this is the final straw.
ALSO:
The stepfather lists off his concern like “This is her first step on the way to jail”. This concern he is expressing has nothing to do with the teen’s actual safety or welfare. The sign says she let a boy into the house. His concern should be that she may get pregnant early. Since when does letting a boy in at night lead to jail? It doesn’t.
This is why the teen girl is milking the sympathy. Bc it is working with her mom
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RabidPatriot
Nov. 25, 2012 at 1:19amShame is a tool used by bullies and fools. It’s too late at 15 to shame someone into being a good person if you didn’t raise them to be a good person in the first place. If you did raise them right and it didn’t work, wearing a sign isn’t going to fix the problem.
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busterpuddles
Nov. 25, 2012 at 1:20amI mostly agree with Zoro in all of what he stated, save one small alteration. I would say that MOST parents aren’t firm in their NO as they should be. Everything reported about the girl in the article is relevant to my youngest daughter as she has been nothing but trouble since fourth grade. At seventeen she moved out/ran away to live with her illegal alien boyfriend and his family to become their salvation as the anchor-mom of the group. She has cost us thousands and we’ve had a number of public workers involved to no avail. Can’t do what I want to do because my hands are tied by the law. I feel the anguish and frustration of these parents.
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Jetstream001
Nov. 25, 2012 at 1:24amThe news reporter gave this more publicity than it deserved. Out of the news, just the neighbourhood would have know – which is more than enough.
Now Jasmine is infamous around the world.
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PATTY HENRY
Nov. 25, 2012 at 4:44amOf course GOD is the ANSWER to everything. This especially. I don’t believe PUBLIC HUMILIATION could ever make a situation like this better. GOD is LOVE and the best Advise I ever heard from an older parent (having already raised several kids) is just LOVE your kids. After you raised them past 6 or 7 the dye is cast. NOW you can only teach via example. Pray for them (a lot) Let them see YOU go to Church; Pay your bills; get to bed at a decent time; keep your house clean etc. IF you’ve participated in their lives to date (sports/coach/scouts leader etc) you’ll probably have a better relationship with them…but your leverage is the cell phone; the allowance; the car. IF you can learn to talk to them and never get hysterical that helps. IF drugs are involved you need professional intervention; HOPEFULLY you won’t hook them on some stupid behavioral drugs… that’s a black hole. But the key is to raise them right with plenty of attention to you (instead of your TV show(s)) and participate in things, trips when you can, visits to parks, zoo’s, sports, museums .
BUT nothing works better than your sincere PRAYER for GUIDANCE. YOU and your spouse, the child’s grandparents/aunts/uncles need to all be on the same page and show some guts – when you say no, mean no. YOU can’t undo 15 years of lousy upbringing but you will certainly do better if you at least start now than NEVER. Tough world. Truth and prayer are the answer.
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Scooby_Do
Nov. 25, 2012 at 6:52amParents should be able to do anything to kids that is not outright abuse. Read fresh political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
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Walkabout
Nov. 25, 2012 at 9:30amSLEUTH
for what its worth. humiliation doesnt work for all kids. they learn to miss behave in school from other kids. most of the time its not the parents fault. there is nothing you can do.
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Very good observations. I agree up to the last sentence “there is nothing you can do.” I think the sentence needs a caveat. Like “at times there is nothing you can do.” If you do things right most of the time (not all the time / not expecting perfect parents) most kids will turn out all right. Don’t know the exact percentages. But a minority of kids you will not be able to help in the short term & sometimes ever.
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hcerrito134
Nov. 25, 2012 at 9:32amOkay people, I would punish her also for the spelling, 15 and probably in High school,and doesn’t know how to write.Shame on her.
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rangerskippy
Nov. 25, 2012 at 10:48amput a leather strap to that ****, and all laughing will cease for a while.
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Bluebonnet
Nov. 25, 2012 at 11:07amPublic humiliation might make them want to prove something else, nothing good.
I’ve wondered for years why my sister and I were good little girls when growing up. We were around others who did things we didn’t approve of because we were taught differently by a mother who explained how the cow chewed the cud. We were to have respect for ourselves, not let anyone touch us inappropriately, don’t lie, cheat or steal, intimate relations were for marriage only, not for dating. It was that simple and we lived by our beliefs our mom taught us.
I was popular, had a lot of dates because I was cute, a great dancer, fun to be with and didn’t allow any monkey business. I knew what was right and lived by it. Maybe our mom was lucky to have kids with good values, or perhaps she taught us good values.
We both worked during high school, bus girls in a good family restaurant, we accepted our responsibilities, followed mom’s rules.
Did luck have anything to do with it, or were we taught by a loving mom, right from wrong?
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v15
Nov. 25, 2012 at 11:54amWhoa! I’m a “demented liberal” because I think public humiliation of children is wrong?? I’ll get married and have a family one day but not like this insanity!! What’s next -children in the stocks in the village square so people can throw tomatoes at them?? To me, all of this comes back to lack of parenting. It’s not done out of love and definitely is going to backfire and blow up in the parents’ faces!!! There are a million ways to punish kids but PUBLIC HUMILIATION IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
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repairsea
Nov. 25, 2012 at 12:33pmI managed to raise my son by being consistent. I told him if he wanted to disrupt and not work in school, I would quit my job and home school him. If he was late for curfew, I told him wherever he was they would be harboring a runaway and I would press charges. If he drank, I would contact the Alcohol Beverage Control and have the house where he consumed the alcohol taken away and the family put in jail. His teenage friend pulled up with my son in car with a new license. I told him he was breaking the law. They argued with me, I offered him a conversation with the sheriff, called his mother and showed her in the DMV book where her son was violating the law. Every time my son came through the door and I hugged him and said I love you. That way he could tell his friends I always checked his eyes and breath. He was not going to take a change. Also, I captured his keystrokes on his computer and read what he was up to. We had a Brinks alarm so I knew when the doors or windows were opened. Oh and he went to church and mass if he wanted breakfast on Sunday. My son graduated highschool, college, is a veteran and works for a living.
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ToddH
Nov. 25, 2012 at 11:27pmRepairSea, good for you!
You’ve given me plenty of ideas for how I will raise my kids.
It is very similar to the way I was raised.
Church services were a regular Sunday morning and evening staple in my family too, and attendance by all was expected & never waivered. You did not miss unless you were sick and for a while in high school my sister and I were also enrolled in a daily after-school Bible study and also practiced church bell hymns on Wednesdays after school.
All of my summer camps were Bible camps. There was fun in the sun, but each day that was mixed with lessons about respect and honesty and living life as a decent human being.
I worked many holidays at missions and church soup kitchens.
Even though I am an atheist today, I harbor no doubt that these constant lessons in moral values and high character when I was growing up were what developed my personality into someone who still values honesty and integrity to this day. I compare myself to coworkers who were raised in agnostic homes and I can see the difference. They think nothing of lying and stealing if they can get away with it. They see that as normal; “everyone does it”. They do not hold themselves to high ethical standards.
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lillockey
Nov. 26, 2012 at 12:51amZORO51,
I’m going to have to disagree with one of your premises. Parents are being reported for abuse regularly by people who aren’t involved or worse the children themselves. The fact is that the kids have caught on to the parents not being able to use pain as a teaching tool. Kid turns on the stove and burns himself? Child Services yanks the kids. Child doesn’t want to go to his room? Child Services again. These days, it is the child who is in control and not the parents. From my own experience with our teenage daughter, she’s got it all figured out. She can do anything she wants and get away with it because the level of consequences we can legally enforce on her are, in a word, pathetic. No child needs to fear a belt any more. It doesn’t matter how much the child needs to have some form of corporal punishment, it’s not going to happen. Wresting the rights of the parents and telling them that if they punish their children they are bad parents has completely defanged any ability to bring order to an otherwise disorderly child. Are there kids out there who SHOULD be protected? Yes. However, what are parents supposed to do to protect themselves against false accusations? What are parents supposed to do to enforce the boundaries they set when they say “no”? Time outs?!? Teenagers (especially) feel so empowered by the government that they fear nothing. They are told that their parents can’t do anything to them. So … what now?
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Nov. 26, 2012 at 4:24pmThis should first be handled at the family level.
Then the community level.
Then the township level.
Then the county level.
Then the state level.
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NO_MORE_OBAMA
Nov. 24, 2012 at 12:07pmShould have read ….. IMA SLUTZ and they caught me.
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M13
Nov. 24, 2012 at 12:47pmHey I didn’t know we talking about Sandra Fluke.
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grayling646
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:50amShaming doesn’t seem to work on my dogs. I’ll say, “Shame on you!”. He’ll say, “Gimme a belly rub! Gimme a belly rub!.
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SchrodingersDog
Nov. 24, 2012 at 12:14pmHa! That was funny.
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Eastinfection
Nov. 24, 2012 at 12:26pmObviously THIS isn’t your dog….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5gqHMCyiSc
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The-Monk
Nov. 24, 2012 at 1:17pmIn this case I think it will end up just being advertising for her next boyfriend(s).
“Hey look, Jasmine is easy, I think I’ll go out with her…..” : (
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grayling646
Nov. 24, 2012 at 2:27pmGreat video. Enjoyed watching it again…and you’re right. If I had placed that bag of food in front of either of my Labs he would have perceived it as a food offering and taken it. They have no shame.
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Fubared
Nov. 24, 2012 at 4:21pmBetter a belly rub than a red rocket.
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loveliberty83
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:46amHaving been there, i had to put my daughter in a kid detention because she was gone all night, this is after trying everything-she begged me not to but i could not sleep @ night worrying about her then having to go to work without sleep, i just remenber the two girls who died in a barn fire after telling parents they were @ each others house. the day she stayed there did change her mind
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ripple effect
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:42amHumiliation is a tool used the moment one can converse with a child. Phrases like Why did you do that? or Would you like it if your sisters kicked you? It only takes common sense to see the difference. If they made her hold a sign that said she was a tramp, then that would cross a line. I had trouble with one of my girls and it took alot to get her to come around. In fact nothing will work until the child realizes their parent will not give up the fight to save them from themselves. And it takes an awful lot to convince a teenager they will not win the battle. Progressive indocrination tries to teach our kids that we are less intelligent than they are now. Even while our schools fail to teach basics like grammar or mathematics. We have idiots like Al Gore “There are things you know that your parents do not know” Never surrender your children to the society norm. Teach them the morals and values that will build character. Keeping your kids on the right path may be daunting but is always a battle worth winning. I have two grown young ladies and though they still cringe at some of the crap I spew, they put up with me out of respect. They are smart and strong and I love them more than anything in the world. If humiliation is a tool it is good. If it is a weapon then it is bad. God bless all who are willing to fight the good fight.
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rEt_fiELdoP
Nov. 24, 2012 at 12:16pm@ RippleEffect….
Why not speak the truth? If a daughter displays and acts in a manner that is defined by society (loosely taken if you will) as a “tramp”, why not so say? A tramp is a tramp by definition regardless of age and most of tend to think/believe teenagers are worse today with regards to behavior than ever.
RE THIS VIDEO: I fully support the actions of the parents. Obviously, the teenage girl is humilated and doesn’t see this as “love” (her words in the video). That speaks of her lack of understanding when it comes to “love.”
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ripple effect
Nov. 24, 2012 at 5:23pmcalling people names is not humility it is verbal assault. When a child does a stupid thing you can say ” Well that was stupid.” But calling them stupid does not help it just creates a label. The parents in this article did not call her names they only pointed out where she had crossed the line of civil behavior.
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Mike Austin
Nov. 24, 2012 at 6:45pmrEt_fiELdoP
You are right. Shaming is a tool used to modify behavior since the dawn of man. If it does not work, the girl has some serious issues.
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jims3rdwife
Nov. 25, 2012 at 4:04pmI had to have 4 cops wrestle my kid to the ground, and haul him off to the the psych ward of the local hospital, where he stayed for 30 days, a long stay. At one point, he told me if I didn’t take him out, he’d kill himself. I told him he was going to die on the outside if he didn’t change, and I’d rather have him try to kill himself in the hospital where there was medical assistance at hand. I got out of the unit and collapsed on the floor in tears on the other side of the locked door. But I stuck to my guns and it worked. I also got a private placement at the public schools’ expense and moved him in with my dad. Today, he is a happy, successful 32 year old dad
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RodT82721
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:34amWhen I was growing up, in the 40-50′s I not only had to worry about my parents, any of my neighbors would fill in for them if needed.
Public humiliation has been a know way to curb stupid actions from the unthinking or uncaring. Back when this country was formed, the Pillory was set up in the public square, where someone that wanted to act the fool, got to stand attached to the device for all to see and criticize.
Maybe it’s time to bring back the Pillory, on the Town square, and a live feed on Facebook!
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RDavis49
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:44amYou’d have everyone from the Democrat party on that Pillory constantly…..
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lordjosh
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:50am“TheBlaze is wondering if parents should be allowed…..”
That statement is much more disturbing to me. No one is allowed to determine what parents are allowed to do.
DadRocked
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:51amSome town square’s will need to be enlarged and start an appointment book.
Here in Northern VA, the ‘transplants’ will say how ‘wrong’ that is… In ROVA (Rest of Virginia), they’ll agree with this approach.
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pagraywolf
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:56amI was in elementary school in the sixties and high school in the 70s and I also had to worry about the neighbors. Parents looked out for their own children and for those in the small town I grew up in. I now live in another state in another small town and see that many people still have those values I grew up with.
Rural America – hope for the future.
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Eastinfection
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:30amWhere’s that guy that put a bullet through his daughter’s laptop when you need him?
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DadRocked
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:23amH E L L Y E S – If used wisely and as an ace in the hole, then it’s a great lifelong lesson.
Daughter, now 20, sometimes speaks of when at 14, didn’t know why her school was ‘forcing’ an econ class on her. I took to the local Mickey-D’s sat her but down to watch the drive thru for an hour one night. “Wow, look at that, you’ll make minimum wage, get your own clothing…” etc…
Was it a motivator… YEP! Now in second year of college snaggin’ a 3.4 GPA.
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Eastinfection
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:22amDid they try posting a comment on her Facebook page calling her “fat”?
That usually gets a teenage girl’s attention.
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rockymtngal
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:22amHeaven forbid we disipline our children at all! Kids know which side their bread is buttered on. They can go to a teacher and boo-hoo about how awful their parents are and get sympathy. Got PG messing around at 13? No problem. A teacher will take them in for an abortion, or now, dole out a morning after pill. Don’t get me wrong. There are parents out there that are physically and verbably abusive, but having your daughter (or son) humiliated in public isn’t going to scar theml for the rest of their lives. Hopefully this girl will learn a lesson & start being respectful.
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Bodacious_Boedi
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:21amI remember growing up in the fifties and sixties with a father who was from rural southern Missouri. He wasn’t abusive…not at all…but he could draw that belt of his like a sword!! Being the bonehead I was in my adolescence, I even called him out when I was seventeen! Ever seen the arms on a career welder? I lay, semi conscious, in the driveway for about fifteen minutes. Eventually, though, I grew up to respect some things, ideals and principles and freely served my country during Viet Nam.
Now, besides my biological son who is 34, I’ve dealt with step kids and with the step kids the damage has been done. With one kid there was nothing much left but to have him hauled off by juvenile authorities. Once they have no respect, they’ll do whatever they want and it’s YOUR hands that are tied.
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kickagrandma
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:18amIf you’ve tried everything else, and nothing has worked thus far, go for it~~~in spades. Might not hurt after a period of time for dad or mom to be on the other side of the street with their own sign that should have been carried by them had their own parents known what they did…. might be a healing experience for all involved.
Our FATHER GOD DOES DISCIPLINE HIS CHILDREN.
HE IS ALWAYS MERCIFUL although it might not seem like it at the time.
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NeoKong
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:15amYour mother will never stop humiliating you no matter how old you are.
They have an encyclopedic list of every embarrassing moment of your childhood to be retold at a moments notice at every family gathering.
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Eastinfection
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:23amtrue dat!
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forthepeople
Nov. 24, 2012 at 12:29pmEvidently you are not a Mother yet ? only then will you understand.
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Creativethinker
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:12amGood for her parents! She has her head down so maybe this will get through to her.. She doesn’t seem to be enjoying it. She is out of control, so if this works it will be good for society
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DadRocked
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:29amThey should have had the sign’s height just a little below her neck… No where to hide…
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Eastinfection
Nov. 24, 2012 at 12:30pmit works for dogs….
http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/bark-louder-than-their-bite-dogshaming-craze-takes-off-201208
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longknifed
Nov. 24, 2012 at 2:09pmWith the internet age, I don’t think that is good parenting. At some point there is nothing productive that a parent can do in that situation other than just letting the kid reap the consequences of her actions.
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hi
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:11amMy teen said she deserves it. But, I think this type of humiliation depends upon the personality of the kid. It could be dangerous for a super-sensitive kid. This girl seems strong like her parents. The parents love their daughter and are doing the best they can.
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bobfrommosinee
Nov. 24, 2012 at 9:21pmB.S. Be dangerous for supersensitive teens? It is more dangerous not to enforce discipline, Not only for the Teen but for society.
Parent does not mean being Your child’s BFF, It means setting rules and enforcing them by force if necessary, raising Your child to become a productive member of society, Inside acceptable social norms, and Not be a danger to themselves or anyone else.
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GCT
Nov. 25, 2012 at 2:59pmHI, You did good! Your child is smarter than you!
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bikerdogred1
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:11amShould kids be allow to humiliate their parents in public that should be the question.
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luvmyfam5
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:26amhave you seen how many kids from age 3 to 18 act in public, many parents have been humiliated for a long time now
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ZaphodsPlanet
Nov. 24, 2012 at 9:30pmHow old are you Biker? 17 or 18?
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lynnissmart
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:10amThis shouldn’t even be a question. If it is then we are in trouble!
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RLTW
Nov. 24, 2012 at 10:59amThere is a fine line between teaching humility and humiliating, crossing over that line is sometimes necessary.
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Thinman
Nov. 24, 2012 at 10:53amThere are no bad children, only bad parents. Had hers been more busy with parenting than divorces and re-marries, would they have problems still? You reap what you sow…
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chips1
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:03amIs it possible that the girls real father was killed in the ME by a muslim? The article didn’t mention facts that you jumped on. Kids grow up differently in all types of situations. Some just do wrong stuff. Sort of like the Mendez Brothers.
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BODYBAG
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:03amAgreed. Many kids need to spend some time on the farm where I grew up. Grandma used a switch
when the kids stepped out of line. I only experienced that once — it was enough so that I never crossed her again —- ever. I had red welts from the back of my knees to my lower back. I deserved every lash.
My grandparents are my heroes to this day.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:04amYou might want to re-think that statement…
There are plenty of great parents out there who have absolutely no say in how their kids turn out… though they have tried and tried and tried. We live in an ever increasing morally bankrupt society and parents have lost the ability in many cases to raise their children in the fashion we may have been raised… with a healthy fear of God, their parents and authority in general.
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hi
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:17amIt’s easy to throw stones unless you’ve gone through it. We have kids who are easy but we have one who is difficult at times. If we only had the easy ones we could boast about our great parenting skills.
Every parenting book I read was about changing the parent!! I only read ones written by Christians like about what would Jesus do.
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sparkyrules
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:22am@BODYBAG
Ouch.I also can remember those switches/welts from my Stepmom.Us kids raising hell on long car trips in the back seats of the station wagon.Dad would pull over the side of the road,she would snap a branch off a tree,strip it,and line us up.It didn’t take many of these instances for us to ‘get with the program’ after that…She was/is a very kindhearted woman that I would come to understand when older.
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MsMonsoon
Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:38amThe girl needs her father! If he’s not available, her mother has no business dragging in that tatooed fool in the video. Stepparents should have no say in a child’s upbringing or discipline. It just opens the door for clouded issues and resentments.
To answer the question: Yes parents, when the child is willful and disrepsectful, should shame their children. Shame is healthy and necessary in learning right from wrong. And God knows they embarrass us and break our hearts oftern enough.
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DivisionByZero
Nov. 24, 2012 at 3:58pmI wonder if you have any children? I’m guessing if you do, they will end up messed up.
Some kids are very difficult, while their siblings are “easy” to deal with. I can assure you that all parents are imperfect and will make mistakes constantly, but your statement sounds niave.
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WATER-THE-TREE
Nov. 24, 2012 at 7:46pmIt is harder now to do what works . Back in the day if a father busted his kids **** in public, no one got upset, on the other hand they were like, Yes, about time you spanked him. Now DSS will be at your door because some idiot thinks spanking is wrong and called child abuse on you. Now you have to find a private place which is many times impossible. So the kid realizes you at that moment are powerless to apply the **** woopin and they act up. When I was a boy if I acted up knew there would be INSTANT punishment, it works.
I even know and have seen people use the DSS as a weapon, they call them to cause grief to you, even though it is unfounded.
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lillockey
Nov. 26, 2012 at 1:16am@BODYBAG
I grew up in the 80s and 90s. My dad, who is amazing, didn’t use a switch. No. Not a switch. He did use something like this:
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/1/1/14828-culinary-institute-of-america-10-straight-decorating-spatula.html
Boy, that sucker hurt. It drove a lot of harsh lessons into me as I was a very stubborn soul.
To those who would say “there are only bad parents”, I submit myself as evidence to the contrary. My parents did everything they could to correct my bad behavior. I didn’t care. I still lit my driveway on fire. I still snuck out at night. I still had sex before I was an adult. I didn’t care about what they did. I fought them because I had a rebellious spirit. It was only later that I remembered the pain and pondered what it was that my parents were trying to teach me. Today, parents are severely limited by the threat of child services. They can’t even take the measure that my parents had to take with me. It is a shame to our society and harmful to our children. Parents should have the choice of how to handle their children with the very last resort being to yank the kids rather than the first response.
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BODYBAG
Nov. 26, 2012 at 4:30pm@LILLOCKEY
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 1:16am
@BODYBAG
I grew up in the 80s and 90s.
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My experiences were in the 60s but the lessons are the same.
Much like you I would consider myself a hellion as a kid. I didnt care about much of anything
or what the consequences were. I did respect my grandparents and their disapproval was painful.
Just like you, a little later down the road, things began to make sense to me. At the time that I was receiving those whippings they probably thought it wasnt getting through —- but it would prove valuable a little later when I remembered what they were trying to teach me.
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honor007
Nov. 24, 2012 at 10:40amNothing worse than getting in trouble out in the public.
HELL YES!!!
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progressiveslayer
Nov. 24, 2012 at 10:38amI don’t think it’s possible to humiliate many people today,you see millions getting something for nothing and they think it’s great,something they’re entitled to. A little humiliation won’t kill the kids and could possibly help them,of course the bleeding heart libs will disagree they think twenty six year old’s are kids.It exposes their level of intelligence when they think an adult is a child.
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Pantloadian
Nov. 25, 2012 at 10:26amWe humiliated Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and the Tea Parry. We’ll leave it to you – and the Sandusky priesthood – to humiliate the children.
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progressiveslayer
Nov. 25, 2012 at 4:09pmNah Pantload that kind of thing is your bag,you NAMBLA freaks are at the bottom of the barrel.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Nov. 24, 2012 at 10:37amI had a neighbor when I was a kid who used to hang her teenage son’s pee stained bed sheets out of the attic window on a regular basis.
Not saying it was right in the shaming dept, but…
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JEANNIEMAC
Nov. 24, 2012 at 12:36pmNo teen age kid wants to pee in their bed. It is a symptom of stress. Get the kid some help, instead of needlessly humiliating him.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Nov. 24, 2012 at 1:47pmYou could very well be right… but… back in the ’50′s we thought it was just tough love…
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COFemale
Nov. 24, 2012 at 10:37amKids feel entitled and it is the parents fault. They gave this girl everything they took away. Make her do community service. After school and homework is complete, make her do service. Put an alarm system in your home and do not give her the code or change the code before you go to bed. There are ways to curb her from letting boys in the home. I have no problem making her stand out holding a sign.
So where are the parents of the boys?
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PorkPIG
Nov. 25, 2012 at 6:20amAmen!!!!
I might seem like the strictest parent in the world to my 8yr son , BUT when we go out in public I get compliments on how well behaved my son is compared to the demon spawn i see lurking in stores and public places .
Its so funny how 50 yr ago disrespect was dealt with quickly and sternly , Now days “Experts ” say that this type of behavior is just a phase and that seems to be every parents excuse!
These parents seem terrible , The sign is good start but they problems lie much deeper than a simple punishment . The need to start at home and compare their moral compass and there daughters moral compass . I get the feeling that these parents are Hypocrites when it come to setting rules and having them followed . That bratty Teenager would not speak like she did to that reporter and disrespect Herself and her parents , If she was my Child .
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SolitudeBliss
Nov. 24, 2012 at 10:36amSometimes nothing else works but HUMILIATION. And some don’t care for they do not have or know SHAME.
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MAULEMALL
Nov. 24, 2012 at 10:33amShame is a lost emotion and the best of teachers..
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forthepeople
Nov. 24, 2012 at 12:32pmAmen , and a big reason our society is like it is today !
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