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‘Unique’ & ‘All-Inclusive’: Pope Benedict XVI Appoints 6 New Cardinals From Around the World to Help Choose Successor

Nov. 24, 2012 12:00pm Becket Adams

Pope Benedict XVI Chooses 6 New Non European Cardinals

Pope Benedict XVI arrives at the altar to lead holy mass at Antonio Maceo Square in Santiago de Cuba, March 26, 2012. (Alberto Pizzoli/AFP/Getty Images)

VATICAN CITY (TheBlaze/AP) — Six new cardinals on Saturday joined the elite club of red-robed churchmen who will elect the next pope, bringing a more geographically diverse mix into the European-dominated College of Cardinals.

Pope Benedict XVI presided over the ceremony in St. Peter’s Basilica to formally elevate the six men, who hail from Colombia, India, Lebanon, Nigeria, the Philippines, and the United States. As Benedict read each name aloud in Latin, cheers and applause erupted from their friends and family members in the pews.

The ceremony was both joyful and emotional: Manila Archbishop Luis Antonio Tagle, seen by many to be a rising star in the church, visibly choked up as he knelt before Benedict to receive his three-pointed red hat, or biretta, and gold ring, and wiped tears from his eyes as he returned to his place.

Manila Archbishop Luis Antonio Tagle

Abuja, Nigeria Archbishop John Olorunfemi Onaiyekan, meanwhile, seemed to want to sit down and chat with each one of the dozens of cardinals that he greeted in the traditional exchange of peace that follows the formal elevation rite.

Benedict has said that with this “little consistory,” he was essentially completing his last cardinal-making ceremony held in February, when he elevated 22 cardinals, the vast majority of them European archbishops.

Benedict said Saturday that the new cardinals represent the “unique, universal and, all-inclusive identity” of the Catholic Church.

“In this consistory, I want to highlight in particular the fact that the church is the church of all peoples, and so she speaks in the various cultures of the different continents,” he told the crowd, which included Lebanese President Michel Suleiman, the vice president of the Philippines Jejomar Binay, and lawmakers from India and Nigeria.

Among the six new cardinals is Archbishop James Harvey, the American prefect of the papal household. As prefect, Harvey was the direct superior of the pope’s former butler, Paolo Gabriele, who is serving an 18 month prison sentence in a Vatican jail for stealing the pope’s private papers and leaking them to a reporter in the greatest Vatican security breach in modern times.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy is received by Archbishop James Michael Harvey (R) at the Cortile Cortile di San Damaso for a meeting with Pope Benedict XVI on October 8, 2010 in Vatican City, Vatican. (Getty)

The Vatican spokesman has denied Harvey, 63 from Milwaukee, is leaving because of the scandal. But on the day the pope announced Harvey would be made cardinal, he also said he would leave the Vatican to take up duties as the archpriest of one of the Vatican’s four Roman basilicas.

Harvey’s departure has led to much speculation about who would replace him in the delicate job of organizing the pope’s daily schedule and arranging audiences.

Aside from Harvey, Tagle, and Onaiyekan, the new cardinals are: Bogota, Colombia Archbishop Ruben Salazar Gomez; the Patriarch of Antioch of the Maronites in Lebanon, His Beatitude Bechara Boutros Rai; and the major Archbishop of the Trivandrum of the Siro-Malankaresi in India, His Beatitude Baselios Cleemis Thottunkal.

Cardinals serve as the pope’s closest advisers, but their main task is to elect a new pope. And with Benedict, 85, slowing down, that task is ever more present. For the second time, the consistory ceremony was greatly trimmed back, lasting just over an hour to spare the pope the fatigue of a lengthy ceremony.

He will, however, celebrate Mass on Sunday with them.

While Benedict didn’t mention the cardinals’ primary task in his remarks, he did remind them that the scarlet of their cassock and hat that they wear symbolizes the blood that cardinals must be willing to shed to remain faithful to the church.

“From now on you will be even more closely and intimately linked to the See of Peter,” he said.

Pope Benedict XVI leads the mass of the opening of the Synod of bishops (Photo: AFP/GETTY)

The six new cardinals are all under age 80. Their nominations bring the number of voting-age cardinals to 120, 67 of whom were named by Benedict.

Saturday’s consistory marks the first time in decades that not a single European or Italian has been made a cardinal — a statistic that has not gone unnoticed in Italy. Italy still has the lions’ share of cardinals, though, with 28 voting-age “princes” of the church.

The College of Cardinals remains heavily European even with the new additions: Of the 120 cardinals under age 80 and thus eligible to vote in a conclave to elect a new pope, more than half — 62 — are European.

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Comments (119)

MMSands
Posted on November 25, 2012 at 12:02pm
The Catholic Church may have dealt badly with the pedophilia problem, but at least they dealt with it — as against all the other religions that still pretend it doesn’t happen in theirs. Pedophiles are more likely to be married, and with children of their own, than single. So before complaining about the mote in the eye of the Catholic Church, folks… well, if you’re Christians, you should know the rest of that quote.

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Pantloadian
Posted on November 25, 2012 at 9:43am
Got it figured out yet, fellas? No? Tech weary? Yeah, no wonder. Maybe it’s time for a break. Perhaps you should take a dip in the Sea of Peter.

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ltcwilly
Posted on November 25, 2012 at 9:27am
Sola Scriptura. This is amazing. The Vatican is treating this like a university faculty selection committee. “Gotta be diverse! Gotta be inclusive!” Multiple millions will bow to a man when all they need is…Sola Scriptura.

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- snooop1e
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 12:07pm
  For a very clear example of the division, confusion and disagreement between Protest-ants that has resulted from “Solo Scriptura” see the Protestant debates at the link below. Many Catholics are not aware that so much division exists within Protestantism. Having been on the other side of the fence for most of my adult life I can tell you that there is very little agreement on anything. Protestants say that they rely solely on scripture but if that were true across the board there would be agreement on everything, one Holy Spirit guiding all true believers into all truth. Sadly we now have homosexual clergy,homosexual marriage, divorce and remarriage, denying the Divinity of Christ, abortion, artificial birth “control” artificial insemination, embryonic stem cell research, etc all accepted within “Solo Scriptura” sects because they all interpret scripture differently and they all affirm that anything not explicitly mentioned in scripture cannot be bound to ayone’s conscience. Anyone who has spent any time in Protestant circles knows this, the division and disagreement is mind numbing. Yes the Catholic church is full of sinners and always will be but from the rising of the sun to it’s setting a perfect offering is made in every place in every nation (Mal 1:11) and the same OT, Psalm, NT and Gospel readings are read in every single Catholic church the world over 365/24/7. That’s UNITY.
  
  http://americanvision.org/1239/denying-sola-scriptura-attempt-neutralize-b
  
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- Gr8ful1jim
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 12:30pm
  Tradition, Scripture, Magesterium…The Catholic Church gave you the Bible. You can not just toss aside the other two now that the scripture is compiled into a book. You protestants need to learn about the Catholic Church. It is amazing how much you think you know about it,
  
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- SonOfThunder
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 12:57pm
  Been a excatholic of 46 years. The catholic church is deceiving it brethren like you. Catholics believe you get a second chance in purgatory. Purgatory your biggest hoax is the work of Satan. You die once and then judgement. There are no second chances through prayer or indulgences after you die.
  Repent and put your trust in Jesus today and you will be saved.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 2:29pm
  No, the RCC did not give us the Bible. http://www.gotquestions.org/canon-Bible.html
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 2:34pm
  @SNOOP,
  
  Whether Christians agree or not is not the issue. But the fact that all men are sinful and fallen proves that the RCC claim to infallibility is a hoax.
  
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- conservativewoman
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 5:31pm
  @LTCWILLY
  If Sola Scriptura is all you need, then why is there 30,000 Protestant churches interpreting the Bible differently just in the U.S. alone? In fact, the scripture you follow was edited by Luther, and he would have removed more scripture if his friends had not stopped him. You can thank Catholics for compiling the Bible.
  
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- Oldmantex
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 9:58pm
  @Snoop you really need to attend more Catholic Churches. Most of them do the SAME thing you are laying at the feet of protestants. For example, some diocese teach a child will go to hell if not baptized within the RCC, but others teach that its just a committing of the child to God and has nothing to do with keeping them from Hell.
  
  There are many many more examples, based on interpretation. So don’t try and claim this complete solidarity with in the RCC.
  
  Now why don’t you explain how Peter is the first Pope, when he said in the Bible he was the Apostle to the Jews. Paul was the apostle for the gentiles.
  Look at how Jesus said “Call no man father” as in a hierarchy to God. This was specifically asked of a few priest I know, and not a single one could answer. They claim that the term Father, is for endearment not any hierarchy. But then bow to and kiss the popes ring, and call him the Vicar of Christ. Do you even know what that term means.
  Finally find out where the City on seven hills is located and its roll in revelations.
  I am not saying that all Catholics are bad or all RCC’s are bad, as most of my family is still Catholic. BUT there is some serious corruption in the church and it should be expected. If it was the first church and we know its the largest, it naturally will be a target for Satan. But it is far from the perfect church and is every bit as messed up as protestants.
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 11:20pm
  @Oldmantex – What faith are you? Lets start there, fair enough?
  
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- ProudInfidelToo
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 11:28pm
  @SONOFTHUNDER
  
  CC here too:-)
  
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- superSTARBLAZER
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:02am
  Can you share where in the Bible the concept of sola scriptura is found? As a relatively recent convert to Catholicism from fervent Protestantism I can say with certainty that most everything non-Catholics ‘know’ about The Church is completely incorrect. Follow your faith tradition back to its origin, then ask yourself, ‘o.k., what would I have been the day before my current church started?’ Then go back from there and keep going. If you’re honest with yourself I know where you will end up.
  
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- Akira88
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 1:13pm
  Snoopie – Another truth nonCatholic Christians don’t want to accept is that the Holy Father is the head of “all the Christian Church” including our separated brothers and sisters.
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on November 27, 2012 at 2:40am
  @SUPERSTARBLAZER – Welcome home brother. I completely agree. PAX CHRISTI
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on November 27, 2012 at 4:23am
  @SUPERSTARBLAZER – I can really relate to this statement “Follow your faith tradition back to its origin, then ask yourself, ‘o.k., what would I have been the day before my current church started?’
  
  In a previous thread someone asked me why I came back to the Catholic faith (after 30 years) and your statement sums up one of the biggest reasons. It doesn’t matter who the founder was (Martin Luther, John Calvin, John Knox, Huldrych Zwingli, Charles Taze Russell, Joseph Smith, John Nelson Darby, Aimee Semple Mc Phearson, Ellen Gould White, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Chuck Smith, Rob Bell, Mark Driscoll etc, etc, etc……) one thing they all had in common was the belief that their personal interpretation of scripture was the only correct interpretation and everyone else was in error. All of them were “Reformers” who believed that they were enlightened by the Holy Spirit and that they were going to restore true Christianity. Martin Luther had some valid reasons for protesting but once he left the church he gradually slipped into resentment and anger and if you read his writings he was a very troubled individual. His institution of the doctrine of Sola Fide evolved after he left the church, it wasn’t his primary reason for leaving the church, Sola Fide came later not before, (not a cause but a result) Many Protestants don’t know that both Luther and Calvin also believed in the Real Presence in the Eucharist and Mary’s perpetual virginity.
  
  PAX CHRISTI
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on November 27, 2012 at 1:35pm
  CALL NO MAN YOUR FATHER – Jesus often used hyperbole to make a point, Jesus also said call no man teacher and said if your eye causes you to sin pluck it out. Jesus explicitly condemned divorce and remarriage but many Christians have no issue with divorce. Jesus often referred to Abraham as “your father” and Paul often referred to himself as a father leading his children.
  
  1 Cor 4:115
  I do not write this to make you ashamed, but to admonish you as my beloved children. For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel..
  
  Galatians 4:19
  My dear children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you,
  
  John 8:39
  “Abraham is our father,” they answered. “If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do the things Abraham did.”
  
  Joshua 24:3
  “But I took your father Abraham from the land beyond the River and led him throughout Canaan and gave him many descendants. I gave him Isaac,”
  
  John 8:56
  “Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.”
  
  1 John 2:1:13
  1 My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin; I am writing to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning.”
  
  2 Tim 2:1-2
  You then, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. and what you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be abl
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 1:15pm
  I would remind some that of the 12 Apostles (who lived and walked and ate with Jesus and saw His miracles first hand) 1 betrayed Him with a kiss turning Him over to Pontius Pilate to be executed, 9 abandoned Him when He needed them most and 1 denied Him 3 times. So according to the standard that all men are sinful and therefore we cannot trust any mans teachings (remember the New Testament wasn’t written yet and the NT is the record of the thoughts words and deeds of these sinful men that we supposedly cannot trust) nobody should have trusted the Apostles after Jesus death and resurrection and should have just walked away. Why do we trust them today according to the standard that no man is capable of spreading the true Gospel due to broken nature? I always wonder if people actually take time to stop and think these things through? Makes no sense.
  
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Git-R-Done
Posted on November 25, 2012 at 12:14am
If the new cardinals are teaching and living out the Biblical truths, then this is great news to me. It’s not the culture, language, nation, or race that matters.

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JACKTHETOAD
Posted on November 25, 2012 at 12:01am
I appointed six Starlings the other day for the very same thing only because the Robins are gone for the Winter here. Crows have a bad reputation, and I know they’d never get in. Chickadees are too flighty. My fave is the Peregrine Falcon for the needed job of picking off the vermin that have infected Jesus’ Holy Church.

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- Scooby_Do
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 6:49am
  He hasn’t been Pope that long has he. Read fresh political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
  
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snooop1e
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 5:29pm
Augustine

“Christ was carried in his own hands when, referring to his own body, he said, ‘This is my body’ [Matt. 26:26]. For he carried that body in his hands” (Explanations of the Psalms 33:1:10 [A.D. 405]).
“I promised you [new Christians], who have now been baptized, a sermon in which I would explain the sacrament of the Lord’s Table. . . . That bread which you see on the altar, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the body of Christ. That chalice, or rather, what is in that chalice, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the blood of Christ” (Sermons 227 [A.D. 411]).

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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 6:04pm
  Hey SNOOOP1E… *ding* *ding* *ding* Ready for round 2…? Or is it 3… or 4… or ….
  ;-D
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 9:45pm
  Yeah, I thought you had laundry to do SNOOP.
  
  This is just 6 more men for the RCC to get their doctrines from.
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 12:51pm
  LoL.
  
  A thought occurred to me this morning. What if we put all of the cards on the table here and level the playing field. Everyone in here knows that we are Catholic but we know very little about the denominations/faiths of those who are attacking the Catholic church. It’s easy to sit in the comfort of your home and anoymously attack someone elses beliefs and never have to defend your own. So I am inviting everyone in here, lets tear the veil and bring everything out in the open, proudly tell everyone in here which particular denominaton or faith you affirm/practice. Let us question some of your doctrines or beliefs. F.D. Maurice said “A man is most often right in what he affirms and wrong in what he denies” It’s not difficult to attack the Catholic church because we don’t adhere to the man made doctrines of Sola Fide, Solo Scriptura and Once Saved Always Saved. So lets put everything out in the open everyone knows who the Catholics are. Sound off. All those opposed to the Catholic faith feel free to tell us what denomination you are and why you believe your particular denomination has the fullness of the truth.
  
  PAX CHRISTI
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 2:44pm
  I don’t claim a denomination.
  
  How’s that for blowing your argument.
  
  I claim to belong to nor follow anyone other than Jesus Christ, God His Father and the Holy Spirit, as they are revealed to me by the Holy Spirit, in His Word – the 66 books of the Bible.
  
  You can hand your salvation over to be owned, dispensed and dictated by the doctrines of other men if you choose. God gave you free will.
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 5:52pm
  Snoope.
  Did you read about Matthew 23:9? Jesus has indentify your fable Church. It sounds like your fable catholic church, very much. lol
  
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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 10:32pm
  So that’s 1 Non-Denomination Denomination and a defiant “I will not comply.”
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 11:44pm
  @PAXINVERITATE- Interesting isn’t it. Going forward I am only going to engage with people who are willing to tell me what they affirm vice telling me all of the things they deny. When someone says they are “non-denominational” that doesn’t really tell you anything, that could mean anything from denying the Divinity of Christ to women wearing pants is sinful. Back in the day ‘non-denominational” meant the rejection of ALL doctrines and ALL traditions, it was a sort of religion minus the religious part but today it’s become trendy and fab to claim non-denominational, it’s like saying I am tolerant and open minded and I believe in fairness and marriage equality and a womans right to choose, today that will get you a standing ovation. Traffic was craaaaaaaaaaazy coming home tonight, everyone was headed home after the 4 day weekend I suppose. Fortunately the wife drove so I was able to get some rack time when she wasn’t looking. I Hope you had a happy Thanksgiving brother. : )
  
  PAX CHRISTI
  
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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 1:05pm
  Yup and thank you for asking. Yes, it was a wonderful Thanksgiving. Started off with the 9AM Mass, went out for coffee with friends afterward, then home to watch the games and cook the Prime Rib in the Green Egg. Yum! I hope yours was just as relaxing and blessed.
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 2:55pm
  Snooop1E
  
  Good job discussing our faith. I just hope we are not in for a string of religious news stories. I end up very disappointed in our Protestant brothers and sisters.
  
  BTW: If you ain’t Cav, you ain’t ….
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on November 27, 2012 at 2:45am
  @DISMAYED VETERAN – Roger that my brother, roger that. Much appreciated….
  
  PAX CHRISTI
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on November 27, 2012 at 2:48am
  @PAXINVERITATE – I also attended 0900 Mass. My cousin smoked a 20 lb Turkey and brought it over and we had the whole family over at our place (10 screaming kids) it was fun. Peace my brother….
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on November 27, 2012 at 5:33am
  I recently heard a calvary chapel radio show where Pastor Chuck Smith (the founder of Calvary Chapel) advised a female caller (who was pregnant with co-joined twins) that she should abort her child and God would forgive her. I am not attacking Chuck Smith but I just think that this is the natural progression of believing that you are saved by Faith Alone and nothing that you do (or don’t do) has any affect on your salvation. It’s a gradual slide from subjectivism into relativism. As I listened to the radio program I was shocked listening to 2 Pastors explain why abortion is sometimes ok. When we make sin irrelevant…… it becomes irrelevant. Prior to the 1930′s not one Protestant church even allowed artificial contraception let alone abortion. Now 80 years later the founder of one of the largest Evangelical churches in the US believes (and teaches) that abortion is acceptable in some cases. Is abortion sometimes ok?
  
  http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/pastor-chuck-smith-stuns-radio-listeners-by-encouraging-woman-to-abort/
  
  At 25:50 of the link below Chuck Smith and his co-host encourage Christians to use contraception because (paraphrase) children are no longer an asset but a liability and a burden and it cost’s a huge amount of money to feed them and they are not useful or productive and don’t bring money back into the house and we can’t just leave these things up to God
  
  http://www.kwve.com/podcasts/Pastor%27s%20Perspective%2004_30_12.m4a
  
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 4:34pm
The Catholic Church’s greatest problem (besides the entrance of pedophiles in the priesthood) is that it is too ‘universal’. I know that is what they have wanted to achieve. They wanted to spread the message of Christianity throughout the world but they now have included people who do not have a western background. The church also does not have the discipline to police itself correctly. Nowadays,, a priest almost has to commit murder before he is defrocked. This makes it easy for unbelievers to infiltrate and never leave. The inclusion of priests from questionable places like Lebanon and nigeria to the cardinals assigned to pick the next pope may be fine…and then again…may be a mistake. The Catholic church already has too much non-western influence. It soon will be a church and institution we will not recognize,

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- WATER-THE-TREE
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 9:12pm
  Do not worry Satan is in charge of his church!
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 12:08am
  As long as they teach and live out the Biblical truths, then it doesn’t matter what nation they are from.
  
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- jeanr
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 1:13am
  But we are all Catholics…Glenn told me so. A while ago…and then he never really talked about it again. Hmmmm. Anyway, I guess we are still Catholics. Gold buyin’,food hordin’,Obama hatin’ Catholics.
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 1:58am
  What matters is that they stick to the Biblical truths. It doesn’t matter what culture they come from.
  
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- DIgnified
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 7:31am
  Questionable places? Like St. Luke from Syria? Effing i d i o t.
  
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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 9:21am
  Jeanr
  We are all catholics? Wrong! There’s true Christians. Who speak the truth. But’s not you or the fable catholic church. That’s the problem with your catholic church. They think? They are above God’s laws and the Bible. See, I can rebuke your fable catholic church.
  Try reading 2 Timothy 4:2/3/4
  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears.
  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
  
  Waterthetree is right about your evil church. True Christians will expose the truth about you fable church. I’m not a lefty and I don’t like evil Obama, to But you whiny catholics are like the sissies homosexuals. The filthy homosexuals don’t like truth and the same with the fables catholics, to. lol
  
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tommy.tommy
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:37pm
The filthy catholic church is a fable or false christ church.

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Eastinfection
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:33pm
Hilarious! -not…

Any other dead horses you want to beat while you’re at it?

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:39pm
  OK… i’m moving to a thread that’s not messing with the space/ time continuum.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:45pm
  Hi East,
  “OK… i’m moving to a thread that’s not messing with the space/ time continuum.”
  
  Thanks….. I needed that laugh. : )
  
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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:48pm
  Okay now that made me laugh.
  
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- Jake Dog2
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 6:24pm
  Love it. HOOOOOOWWWWWWWLLLLL
  
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 2:58pm
Funny you should say that Monk….

I have interacted with dozens of priests in my life and the only one i ever thought was “creepy” happened to be a huge “Social Justice” freak.
He even got arrested at a George Bush Sr. speech for attempting to incite a riot.

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- tommy.tommy
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 8:48am
  ‘Oh it’s eastinfectiondisease, again and you’re worshipping your messiah Bush, again. It’s the filthy catholic way. lol
  
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- snooop1e
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 1:05pm
  TOMMY.TOMMY, what faith are you? Keep in mind that just saying “Baptist” for instance tells us nothing, Westboro are “Baptists” and very few Baptist agree with their doctrines. Please enlighten us all, what faith, church, denomination do you affirm? : )
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 2:48pm
  @SNOOP, what is your hangup with other people’s “denomination?”
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 2:55pm
Right next to Obama

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Eastinfection
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 2:53pm
Meh… clothes are clothes.. couldn’t be any worse than the parachute pants, tiger-striped bandanas, and fold-up Ferrari sunglasses i voluntarily wore in the mid-80s.. ;)

I had a swell holiday, Monk! hope you did too.

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:06pm
  What the hell happened here? All the posts got jumbled and the one where i said “I think i’ll throw my hat in the ring. Seems like a pretty good gig” got wiped out. How did THAT cross the line?
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:11pm
  Hi East,
  
  That was weird !!!! Maybe “gig” is a no-no. LOL
  
  I never wore those 80′s clothes like you mentioned but I did see them. Never understood them but did see them.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:15pm
  Hi East,
  
  See Walkabout’s post below….
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:34pm
  I saw it Monk.. i agree with all of Walkabout’s takes unless they quote Swedish studies about gay twins.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:42pm
  Hi East,
  
  I was talking about this post…..
  
  Walkabout
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:09pm
  
  RJ original comment is reply to the troll is gone. the trolls comment is gone as well.
  
  Can’t have simple conversation without a troll trying to derail it. Smells of Desperation.
  
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The-Monk
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 2:32pm
Hi RJJ and Walkabout,

I have a thought on this subject.

If (and I say if) communist and Marxist want to rule the world and have been planning a slow takeover of politics, schools and religions for a 100 years; what better way to take down one of the largest religions than to “plant” sick people in to do damage knowing that one day it would come to light? Knowing that a major religion would rather “save face” than be disgraced they would try to hide it or just put people in hi-ranking positions to cover it up until the time was right to expose it?

Just a thought….

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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:09pm
  RJ original comment is reply to the troll is gone. the trolls comment is gone as well.
  
  Can’t have simple conversation without a troll trying to derail it. Smells of Desperation.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:13pm
  Hi Walkabout,
  
  Yeah, one of East’s got taken out too. What happened? I was away for a while…..
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:17pm
  Hi Walkabout,
  
  Which troll was it? Do you remember?
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:21pm
  Hi Walkabout,
  
  Test……
  
  I keep hitting the reply button and posting but it “ends up all by itself” ?????
  
  Something fishy here….
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:25pm
  I see what’s going on…..
  
  When you reply to a troll and that post gets deleted it can take the next post with it and any more replies to the original are not allowed.
  
  Looks like a small glitch…… like doc-u-ment style words. : (
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:28pm
  The “newest to oldest” is also messed up now.
  
  Try changing it to “oldest to newest” and my posts will always stay at the bottom.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:36pm
  Hi Walkabout,
  
  Is that better?
  
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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:45pm
  *Chuckles*
  
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Walkabout
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 2:10pm
I see the examples of the Roman Catholic Church, The Boy scouts & others as examples of how organizations in general deal with embarrassing & harmful problems.

I expect more of the Church that other large organization so you could say I feel let down. How ever I did not take psychology for nothing. Looking a the Anti (?) Catholic site Bishop Acountability the # of case has come down form it’s peak by. It is a small fraction of what it was. Don;t know if this is due to a lag in reporting or the problem is going away. Certainly, I wish the Church would be perfect but I have not seen anything perfect yet. The only perfect person was Jesus, Mohammed or Buddha depending on who or what you believe. I take a dim view of people who bash the RCC. Their interest is more in destroying the church for their ulterior motives than helping or protecting kids.

I give as proof that it is hard to find a comparison of percentages of pedophiles in the RCC compared to other denominations, religions or the population in general.

You expect the Church to be better. But if you are complaining about it I must ask. Do you expect the Church to be 10X better, 100X better or a zillion times better. Where do you draw the line?

It aint going to be perfect.

Many institution have let us down from Congress to Political parties to Presstitutes to the military (Petraeus) to unions & the list goes on.

How much close to perfection does any particular organization must be?

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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 2:02pm
St. Malachy (1094-1148) Ireland…predicted that this next Pope will be the last Pope. We shall “see”.

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Walkabout
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 1:58pm
Nice summary RJ.

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FRED BEAR
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 1:47pm
Your all correct. We are about ready to see some pretty awsome and scarry stuff. From Medjegorie, to Fatima, to Knock. Also include Fr Nicholas Gruner, Maria Esperanza, Fr John Hardon etc….

Don’t forget the Global Conscience exam, which will be a life review like a near death experience.

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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:36pm
  Indeed! Strive to stay in the state of Grace for we no not the day nor hour, only the season and it’s here.
  
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Amy
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 1:43pm
The American Prefect, Harvey, (new Cardinal) was in charge of the butler who leaked the private papers of the pope regarding the (decades-old) corruption, conniving, and sins of the Pope’s Secretary of State, et al. The Vatican is a country onto itself. Personally, I believe the butler, Paolo Gabriele, sacrificed his reputation and eighteen years of his life (in Vatican jail) to restore and protect the virtue of the Catholic Church (with the guidance of Harvey and the Pope). For further understanding, read the works of the late and admirable Fr. Malachi Martin.

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badge02812
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 1:34pm
Forced MULTICULTURALISM !!!!
Now we all know where it originated.

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- classic.american.therapist
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 8:27pm
  Be glad for this development! Benedict is adding cardinals from Asia & Africa not only because of the large number of Catholics there, but because they are becoming last bastions of religious conservatism. Just ask the Anglicans in America! Most continuing Anglican churches broke off from the Episcopal church because of their ever-worsening theological, liturgical & social liberalism which some have now branded as crossing the line into apostasy. (No offense to ECUSA laity and clergy adhering to a true Christian belief–I’m speaking mainly of the leadership and their cohorts.) These conservative Anglican churches are able to maintain a connection to the Church of England (therefore their Anglican “legitimacy”) through sponsorship by Anglican churches in Africa. From what I understand, most of the Catholic bishops in Africa are just as conservative. And the Phillipines is a strongly Catholic country. I don’t care where the cardinals come from as long as they uphold the long-standing teachings and practices of the Church!
  
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- badge02812
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 9:47pm
  Liberals are also very LIBERAL, make no mistake !!
  
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- badge02812
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 9:50pm
  It is a grievous error to mistaken Catholics with conservatives. This is NOT the case !
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 1:56am
  Badge – Catholics from Latin America, Asia, and Africa tend to be very opposed to abortion, contraceptives, and homosexuality.
  
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grayling646
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:53pm
The United Nations of Catholicism. Maybe?

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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 1:59am
  Unlike the UN, the Catholic Church actually stands for something. As long as the church stands with the Biblical teachings, then it’s all good.
  
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JEANNIEMAC
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:49pm
About 2% of homosexual priests disgraced the Catholic Church. Catholic bashers have to get their claws in where they can.

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- snooop1e
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 1:20pm
  Pedophilia is actually just as common and actually occurs (percentage wise) at a much higher rate within Protestant denominations and other institutions. Historically and sadly the main stream media reports on Catholic abuses much more than other institutions. The link below is just one example, sin is a human condition not a Catholic or Protestant or Republican or Democrat condition.
  
  http://www.stopbaptistpredators.org/index.htm
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on November 25, 2012 at 2:47pm
  Your statistics compare Catholic priests, to all other Christians. That’s not a valid comparison.
  
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:46pm
FREEBERTY, Rather a shallow view you have there. Do you think that the Catholic Church was established for that reason, or would you consider that the criminal element of pedophiles are smart enough to seek positions where they are surrounded by such soft targets? I do agree though, that the church handled their situation badly. The Boy Scouts did a better job, although not perfectly themselves. These pedophiles hide well, taking positions in schools, juvenile related sports, hired or voluntary, scouts, etc, etc. I’m just saying that I seriously doubt this was condoned by the church.

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chips1
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:32pm
Something’s not right. I only have a horrible feeling. Don’t know what it is, but I don’t like it. I can’t say anything else, because I don’t know!!!!

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- forthepeople
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:43pm
  Many clairvoyants & scholars have predicted that we have the last pope already and no other to follow ?
  
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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:55pm
  Peace be with you. Much is going to happen, as it was prophesied in Daniel and Revelation. But remain in the Lord through fasting, prayer and the Sacraments and all will be well.
  
  FORTHEPEOPLEP… ”clairvoyants” is not in the lexicon of the Church. Visionaries, Locutionsits and Prophets are however.
  
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- iampraying4u
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 11:18pm
  Chips1 You will know what it is when the seven years of tribulation starts and the revived roman empire starts back up and you are right it is going to be very bad.
  
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rugin
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:24pm
God bless the.

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Eastinfection
Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:22pm
I think i’ll throw my name in the hat. Seems like a pretty good gig.

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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 12:50pm
  Hi East,
  
  But look at the clothes they make you wear…..
  
  Hope you had a nice Holiday. : )
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:34pm
  Hi East,
  
  Is that better?
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:36pm
  i am so confused…
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 24, 2012 at 3:38pm
  Hi East,
  
  Looks like The Blaze isn’t having fun trying to fix this.
  
  Kudo’s to them for trying !!!!!!
  
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