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‘I Genuinely Believe This Is a Marxist Revolution’: British Lawmakers Revolt Against E.U. (And How It Relates to Us)

Nov. 26, 2012 11:10am Erica Ritz

British Lawmakers Say European Union a Marxist Revolution, Calls to Exit | Nigel Farage

A European Union flag billows in the wind as the ruins of the 5th century BC Parthenon temple is seen in the background on the Acropolis in Athens, on Monday, Nov. 26, 2012. (Photo: AP)

The Los Angeles Times published an article Sunday exploring Britain’s shifting place within the European Union. While the subject is noteworthy in its own right, intentionally or not, the article highlights a number of striking parallels between the United Kingdom and the United States.

It has been said that as goes California, so goes America. It is a harbinger of things to come. The United Kingdom is a similar marker, but much further down the road of big government and rule by unelected bureaucrats.

And Britons are starting to object.

The L.A. Times relates:

Looking at Europe from this side of the English Channel, Peter Reeve doesn’t see a “cuddly” continent of biscotti, Burgundy and BMWs. He sees the evil specter of Soviet Russia.

Only this time, it’s Brussels, not Moscow, at the center of an expanding, metastasizing super-government bent on turning independent nations like France and Germany into vassal states. Instead of the Soviet Union, it’s the European Union that scares him.

Reeve, a local councilor with the UK Independence Party, wants Britain to pull out of the EU while it still can, before it’s trapped in such a thick web of European regulation and control that escape becomes impossible and the country winds up as an offshore outpost of a totalitarian EU regime.

“I genuinely believe this is a Marxist revolution happening,” said Reeve. “This country is part of it, but balking on it” — an impulse he heartily encourages. [Emphasis added]

Sound familiar? Only in our case, it would be collusion with giant bodies like the United Nations, rather than the E.U., that many object to.

So what exactly has changed in the years since Britain joined the E.U.? Though it can only be described as a reluctant member — they refused to adopt the Euro, most significantly — the European Union has quickly superseded authority from Britain’s elected officials.

British Prime Minister David Cameron gives a press conference at the EU Headquarters, on November 23, 2012 in Brussels, after a two-day European Union leaders summit called to agree a hotly-contested trillion-euro budget through 2020. (Photo: AFP/Getty Images)

The L.A. Times explains, adding Prime Minister David Cameron’s response:

Upset at EU court rulings that trump British ones, health-and-safety regulations viewed as ridiculously onerous and Eastern European migrants “stealing” local jobs, many Britons feel that EU membership is now more a liability than an asset. At best, they say, Britain is being held back from achieving its economic potential; at worst, it’s been stripped of sovereignty and placed at the mercy of unfriendly, unelected “Eurocrats” at EU headquarters in Brussels.

Polls increasingly show more Britons in favor of leaving the EU than staying in. Anti-EU sentiment pervades British politics, with some Cabinet ministers openly calling for Britain to pull out, or at least for the question to be put to voters in a referendum.

All this has thrown the government of Prime Minister David Cameron into a tricky position. He must weigh growing public disenchantment with the EU against the pro-Europe interests of big business, a natural constituency of his Conservative Party, which fears being shut out of the EU’s single market.

Some political analysts warn that outside the EU, Britain’s global influence would sharply diminish, especially its role as a transatlantic bridge for the U.S.

“The Americans have always told the Brits that ‘you guys are important for us because you have a big influence in Europe,’” said Philip Whyte, a research fellow at the London-based Center for European Reform. “If Britain left the EU, you [in the U.S.] won’t be necessarily picking up the phone to London. Britain won’t be the first country you’d be calling; the first country you’d be calling would be Germany.” [Emphasis added]

But if they’re not being stifled by regulation and Soviet-style bureaucracy, many in the U.K. believe they can overcome the potential losses that would arise from pulling out of the E.U. “The sun never set” on the British Empire roughly a century ago, and while no one expects England to return to a fraction of its former size, they’re not keen on spending their lives in compliance with menial orders from faceless unelected officials in Brussels.

Who can forget the epic rant of Nigel Farage, an anti-European Union member of the EU Parliament, against the president of the EU Council in 2010? Fined $4,000 for expressing his opinion, Farage said the president had the “charisma of a damp rag” but was a “competent, capable, and dangerous assassin” of democracy and British sovereignty.

“We don’t know you, we don’t want you, and the sooner you’re put out to grass, the better,” he concluded.

Watch it, below:

The L.A. Times concludes with an overview of Farage’s recent activities, his party’s message echoing that of American conservatives across the Atlantic.

Interestingly, one of the primary verbal assaults hurled their way is that they are “xenophobic” (read: racist). But they explain that — while they love visiting Paris and now know the difference “between a latte and a macchiato” (in the words of previously-mentioned researcher Philip Whyte) — they’re simply not interested in the stifling, gray life of big government.

The L.A. Times writes:

To broaden its appeal, [U.K. Independence Party] has begun preaching a libertarian message of self-help and small government. But at its core remains the drive to remove Britain from the clutches of an EU monster state that, by Farage’s reckoning, now accounts for 75% of the laws that Britons must obey.

“You can always argue that dictators do the odd good thing. Whether the EU makes a good law or a bad law, the fact is that the electors of this country cannot do a single thing to change any of it,” said Farage.

He is adamant that the government call an “in-or-out” plebiscite on the EU, which would probably decide the question for at least a generation.

“If a majority of my fellow electors in a free and fair referendum opt for us to become Province 17 of the European Union, I won’t be happy about it,” Farage said. “But at least it’ll be the decision of the British people.” [Emphasis added]

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U-R-Busted
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 2:17pm
I am an USA expat and living in the UK for a little over a year. My feeling is that most Brits don’t give a hoot about politics, they will just go with the flow. If it means more socialism, then so be it. They are what we refer to in America as Sheeple. They go wherever they are lead. Off to slaughter!!!

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- desertspeaks
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 2:58pm
  IF anyone is paying attention, the above story is what the UN wants to do with the world!!! GET US OUT OF THE UN !!
  
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- PMLaw
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 3:28pm
  I agree with Desert–Get the U.S. OUT of the U.N.!
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 3:43pm
  Look up the origins of the UN. Then ask yourself, does a bad seed give a good fruit?
  
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- Platonician
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 4:36pm
  What’s really terrifying for the USA. It is that in the worldviews of the talentless, unoriginal people at the head of the current administration, People like Susan Rice and Samantha Powers, European socialism is the perfect model. Check all the measures applied by Obama, even stupid things like the Obama phone, those are European inspired measures, as it’s the green energy demagoguery.
  
  The problem is that they have been taught a very simplistic and binary ideology where American Capitalism and individualism are evil and collectivism and statism are the solution to all problems.
  That makes it wonderful to watch how their ideal model, Europe, is falling apart.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 4:41pm
  The U.N.and our sycophantic one world CFR are problems.
  
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- CrazyChicken
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 5:40pm
  Who do you think voted for the Communist in Chief? Oba-a-a-a-ma…We have sheeple here too who don’t give a crap about their country as long as they got there free stuff.
  
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- Patrick Henry II
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 5:55pm
  This story has alot to do with Pravda’s story about Obama. There is a cohesive message here.
  
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- Individualism
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 7:06pm
  Nigel Farage for prime minister of UK.
  
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- BlueStrat
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:16pm
  @ Individualism
  
  “Nigel Farage for prime minister of UK.”
  
  The UK!?!?
  
  Heck, at this point, if we could have Farage instead of Obama, I’d be willing to let Obama’s birth certificate issues slide! LOL!
  
  I wish more US politicians had the intelligence and intestinal fortitude of Farage. Farage is FAR more “American” than the majority of politicians running the USA currently, from either party.
  
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- Wolfgang the Gray
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:42pm
  I agree that it seems most people today (in the US and the UK) are too busy with their stupid smart phones & Facebook to care about liberty, freedom, and a future for their children that doesn’t put them in shackles for their entire lives to pay off big government debt. It is sad that people have been so entranced by lies and free stuff that they will gladly saddle the yoke of servitude to socialist masters. When my generation has passed (I thank The Lord my father did not live long enough to see what has happened to this great nation), I think the fight will be gone & the young people left won’t care about what they have thrown away, as long as they get free wifi in the slave pens.
  
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- Raider1
  Posted on November 27, 2012 at 6:21am
  It’s COMMUNITARIANISM…AGENDA 21 !!! You may know it as smart growth, sustained development, redevelopment, environmental management and the list goes on. Your individual liberty is at risk of becoming subservient to “THE STATE” via the greater good of the “community” !!! It’s like the environmental movements version of communism !!!
  
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Delores at CH WV
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 1:54pm
It is time that the British citzens and their lawmakers throw out the United Nations like we do here in America. The UN is a Super Virsus. It is going to take the entire World to get rid of this illness. You need to start today before the entire civilization is destroy by the Super Elites!!! Britian has been too nice and now the patients are running the “nut house”.

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- sillyfreshness
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 2:04pm
  Europe has become a socialist continent. After WWII, England elected a communistic party called the Labor Party and they began letting in 3rd world immigrants from around their empire. Most of this socialism is a backlash to WWII and Hitler. Europeans are so he*l bent on not having a Fascist dictator coming to power again, to launch a race war, that they will do anything. The Europeans are now ultra left PC commies all as a way to prevent Fascists from coming back to power. The stuff going on in Europe is still a result of Germany and WWII. In the process, Europe has become a weak, politically correct cesspool ripe for conquest by outside forces like the Middle East. They are letting in openly hostile peoples from the Middle East and they are taking over . England is quickly becoming Englistan and the US is being overran by Mexicans. Political correctness is weakness.
  
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- Banter
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 2:12pm
  You could change every mention of european union in the article and replace it with united nations, and the article would be talking about the United States.
  
  The UN is a most evil organization with only one charter for its existence – steal the wealth and sovereignty of the US.
  
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- AmericanFightingMan1
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 2:32pm
  You are correct Silly; ironic in that Hitler was an epic socialist. The state uber alles. Individuals, well nothing more than servants to the state.
  
  I am convinced that any positivie change will only come after much pain has awoken the survivors. Western man/woman are clearly not interested in saving themselves with forethought.
  
  So, for those who are awake and frustrated: build strong families, gather resources, stay physically fit, build spiritual strength, build bonds with friends; ie., be ready. It will happen at some point. When? No one knows.
  
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- sillyfreshness
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 9:35pm
  And you are right as well. Westerners are their own worst enemy. Good advice to self preservation. Just remember, if you have a gallon of water stored up or even a box of Cheerios, then you’re considered a terrorist by our commie government. They don’t want you self reliant. They want you dependent on the state so they can control you. If you’re starving, you’ll do anything for food to survive.
  
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- AMENDMENT
  Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:01am
  Right after WWII, England paid Jamaicans, Indians and Pakistanis to move to England to help rebuild the major cities after the blitz across the country. It had nothing to do with not wanting another Hitler, but more to do with rebuilding the infrastructure and economy of country. The people that were allowed into the country were once ruled by England and have close ties. The only ones that proved to be a pain in the backside for England are the grandchildren of the immigrants. When it came to visa’s and who can enter the country, Thatcher’s Conservative party was no different to Neil Kinnock’s labour party.
  
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dont_drive_slow_in_the_left_lane_obliviot
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 1:24pm
most brits are too busy running into lampposts while texting to do anything about it. they are doomed. and we are just a few texts behind them.

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SituationalGravity
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 1:20pm
Socialism is the smiling twin sister of the brother Social Darwinism; they’re both devious. Marxism relies solely on “accelerated spending/GDP” as does Social Darwinism. It’s a science equation; or the Creator’s classroom. Debt is the Devil.

Debt is where they are taking you. But along the way; it’s a party for the leaders. The American and European Ruling Class are having a Baal. The growing wealth spread between the Rich and the Poor is because of Liberal policies. The same policies used by any King throughout history.

They need your Private Property to pay for their Lifestyle-Expectations. Thus the widening gap.

Marxism is a Pied Piper of Hades. They promise you Utopia and then they spend Utopia before you get there.

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- SituationalGravity
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 1:40pm
  The Universe is a system of coordinates. Thus Economic Law is the Natural Law. The principle of Lightspeed within Special Relativity explains the boundaries of economics.
  
  God’s supernatural events are not contained by Special Relativity. That said, plan your Public Policy around economic laws.
  
  Humans constantly scheme to justify their debt. On the Left; they simply don’t believe in debt. When you don’t believe in debt; there are no limits on spending. This is not true according to economic law. The debt we see is often ether. Resources are tangible; they cannot be spread into infinity.
  
  The Creator gave us an expanding universe; thus expanding resources. But you will always be debt ridden spending faster than the expansion.
  
  Yes! The answer is to maintain reasonable budgets; living within the laws of nature. But the Ruling Class won’t hear it; they want their stuff, so they need more of yours.
  
  The Ruling Class is the collusion of Socialists (Dems) and Social Darwinists (Repubs). The collusion of Big Govt & Big Credit.
  
  Gravity will soon upend the money-changing tables.
  
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phillycornerboy
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:51pm
forward the nwo. with obamas re-election, the nwo’s plans are being implemented and accellerated. it will be telling to watch the British reaction to these statements. it will also be telling how our msm responds to the British calling the eu communist and pravda calling obama a communist. sadly, some people knew this was coming and we were warned of this years ago. we did nothing. so, now the second civil war/revolution will need to occur before we will be free again. obamas “useful idiots” are willing participants to the socialist make-over of our country. so is our government, elitists/progressives all.

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:59pm
  Churchill knew. Those who fail to learn history, will repeat its mistakes.
  
  http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/WSCwrote1920.html
  
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howard
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:47pm
and this to will come to pass in the last days

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thegreatcarnac
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:39pm
I would be pleasantly surprised if the Brits gathered the nerve to revolt agains the EU. In reality…the people of America should rebel and so should Brits.

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UNALIEN
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:35pm
It is better described as NeoMarxism, unlike Mao or Stalin they don’t steal private property or Liberty with a gun but they use Bureaucracies, Laws,Regulations and forced debt enslavement to confiscate property and strip individual Liberty.

It is better to allow the masses the illusion of the private ownership of property or business, as those that control the bureaucracy are the masters.

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- Minnaloushe
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:44pm
  100% right. Right. RIGHT!
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:44pm
  The only reason Lenin, not Stalin, and Mao used violence was opportunity. It presented itself. Germany was the primary target of Marxism, not Russia. Read it.
  
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- UNALIEN
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 1:06pm
  @THE_JERK
  
  My wifes family (except her father) was murdered by Stalins troops when they refused to give them their farm… but that is not the takeaway..
  
  The point is that the goal of Marxism can be achieved without violence, it is really “organized crime” and today serfdom, theft or whatever you cal it is achieved with massive expansion of bureaucracies…
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 1:19pm
  UNALIEN, I don’t disagree with your argument. I just wanted it to be factually accurate. Lenin led the revolution. Stalin was a butcher, a result that came later. Russia was their land of opportunity. They struck as favorable events unfolded.
  
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- Aurora96
  Posted on November 27, 2012 at 4:15am
  Very well put!
  
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Silversmith
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:25pm
Do you really think any vote will be free from fraud? Just look at the US. My guess is eventually there will be war. There always is with communism.

Silversmith

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:45pm
  I tend to believe that you are correct. Eventually the makers get tired of the takers.
  
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- SocialistSlayer
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:56pm
  As soon as the people lose their cell phones and video games they will wake up and revolt – problem is it will be too late for anything but bloodshed. Even cows are happy all the way to the slaughterhouse. The American people have become so dumb they don’t even realize they are being herded into the slaughterhouse pen !
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 1:08pm
  SocialistSlayer, so true. This is why the front on our educational system is so important. Thus far, it is being ignored. IB is spreading like wildfire. Common Core has gone epidemic.
  
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- adeleeeee
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:24pm
  I am still baffle with how Islamism and Communism works together. I guess Communism works in the western side and Islamism works in the third world countries. And eventually, they will merge. I think communism will be abolished by Islamism. Then, Islam will reach to the top of political and religious spectrum.
  Communism will slain his thousands, and Islamism his tens of thousands.
  
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BlackCrow
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:00pm
Next it will be “Our Lord and Savior” Obama hitting those who speak against him with fines.

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:38pm
  ’bout time these people are catching on. There is an international socialist movement going on. It is coming from multiple fronts: economics, education… . We can see the economic front. No one is paying any attention to the educational front, which includes the International Baccalaureate program (IB) being pushed by the U.N. and Common Core Standards by our federal government. All top down, that in the end will be blended.
  
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AmericaMustBeFree
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:00pm
Well isn’t it the same here. who the hell was Obama.. he hates this country and its people and is bringing down America, but until America turns from their evil ways and turns back to God.. we WILL see more of the last 4 years.. but worse! God help us!

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Micmac
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:59am
Politicians worldwide put Agenda 21 over the sovereignty of their own country and peoples.

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RANGER1965
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:52am
If the UK gets out now, the difficulties which are coming; will be mediated somewhat by their independence from the EU.

If not they will hit just as hard as the EU is about too. It’s gonna be really ugly over there when it hits the fan.

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gyro
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:50am
god save the queen

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- TheePolitinator
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:32pm
  Too bad shes Builderberg eh
  
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:45am
If you appreciate Nigel Farage rant above…here is his more recent rant in front of the EU:

http://www.nosiyroom.net.blog/2012/11/18/nigel-farage-who-can-be-the-most-stupid/

ENJOY. One person has his head screwed on straight!

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term limits for congress
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:41am
Too late for the US. We’re already there. Since the democrats/media control the language, we are not allowed to use politically incorrect terms such as ‘marxists.’

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Beachmastermax
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:33am
And they can’t rely on us to save their **** in the future, because they endorsed a British hating commie for POTUS.

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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:48am
  For sure. We all are on our own now.
  
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:33am
I don’t know if anyone here watches Theresa Garcia but she has been saying that the Anti-Christ will be a Syrian with Greek lineage and come out of this current Syrian conflict after Damascus is a heap and he will set-up his economic center in Brussels, Belgium. Her predictions are pretty eery. Pray and be close to Jesus there is no time like the present. Theresa Garcia can also be found on tbn.org on-demand under the archive section choose “people” off this menu at top and choose letter “T”. Her shows are archived there.

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- BlackCrow
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:04pm
  The Anti-Christ is sitting in the Oval Office right now.
  
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- Detroit paperboy
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 12:48pm
  The anti Christ is Islam itself………………
  
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AbrahamsSheepdog
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:30am
The news is… Satan world is a mess. The plan appears to work well. No wonder Jesus didn’t want it. Hearts are worth more than cruddy gold.

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SREGN
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:26am
Blah, blah, blah. It’s time stop talking and break out the torches and the pitchforks and run the evil marxists out of town. I mean out of state. Sorry, country. Oh heck, planet.

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Twinspeedr
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:22am
Sadly, America has been a union of vassal states since Abraham Lincoln. And now we have our Lenin in office. Queue the old Soviet national anthem…

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- gyro
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:48am
  Sing to the Motherland, home of the free,
  Bulwark of people, in brotherhood strong!
  Oh! Party of Lenin! The strength of the people.
  To Communism’s triumph lead us on!
  
  Through tempests the sun rays of freedom have cheered us
  Along the new path where great Lenin did lead!
  To a righteous cause he raised up the people
  Inspired them to labour and valorous deed!
  
  CHORUS
  
  In the victory of Communism’s deathless ideal,
  We see the future of our dear land
  And to her fluttering scarlet banner,
  Selflessly true, we always shall stand!
  
  CHORUS
  
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DadRocked
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:20am
Nigel, Nigel, Nigel…
Please, on your next visit stateside, have your wife deliver your family’s next child here.
This, so as to carry your legacy on into American politics.
You don’t have to change your citizenship as has been shown here since ’08.

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shogun459
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:19am
And so goes the Road to Serfdom.

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- twistin
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 8:51pm
  we’re already serfs. just try living anywhere in the country without paying either the landlord, (feudal lord) or the Government (Feudal Lord).
  
  Even if your house/land/farm is 100% paid for, just try living there without paying the property tax, Et Cetera, they will throw you out on your ****, whether you are 95 years old, or 35 years old.
  
  People who work mostly make less than people on Unemployment. Hellooo? People who do really well, just like in Feudal Europe, those landlords want 50% of your Crop/Income, or you PAY THE CONSEQUENCES.
  
  You see, we are already there. It’s all downhill from here on out friends….
  
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Zipit
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:17am
GET OUT! GET OUT NOW, while there is still time!!!

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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 2:18pm
  You can’t goofball. It’s a global movement.
  
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- Todd P
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 3:52pm
  I’m working on it, believe me! I have a quiet little beach on a far-away island with my name on it. All I need now is the house. I’m working on it, i’m working…..
  
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IndyGuy
Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:14am
“‘I Genuinely Believe This Is a Marxist Revolution’”….Well now the Brits have grown the cajones to call it what it is….When will the GOP???

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- horsehockey
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 11:24am
  The GOP won’t, it can’t see the forest because of the trees.
  
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- freedomcatcher
  Posted on November 26, 2012 at 6:14pm
  The GOP is the core of it.
  
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