RI Governor Who Changed ‘Christmas Tree’ to ‘Holiday Tree’ Inexplicably Cancels This Year’s Tree Lighting
Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee speaks with a reporter while seated in the backseat of a vehicle, in South Kingstown, R.I., Tuesday, Oct. 30, 2012. (Photo Credit: AP)
During the 2011 holiday season, Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee created a firestorm when he renamed the state’s Christmas tree a “holiday tree.”
At the time, the politician said that the decision to change the tradition was rooted in a desire to be more inclusive. Now, just one year later, Chafee has inexplicably cancelled the tree-lighting ceremony altogether.
According to Fox News’ Todd Starnes, no reason was given for the decision to axe the annual tradition. Perhaps the governor was attempting to be even more inclusive by removing the tree-lighting — or, it’s quite possible that he simply wanted to avoid further controversy.
Last year, Chafee told those who voiced their anger over the “holiday tree” designation that they should turn their energies to other issues, like helping those around them who were in need.
“I would encourage all those engaged in this discussion – whatever their opinion on the matter – to use their energy and enthusiasm to make a positive difference in the lives of their fellow Rhode Islanders,” he said at the time.
A tree referred to as a “holiday tree” by Gov. Lincoln Chafee is lit up in the rotunda of the statehouse in Providence, R.I. Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011. (Photo Credit: AP)
There’s no telling how other politicians will respond to Chafee’s newest Christmas proclamation. Last year, Republican State Rep. Doreen Costa was so enraged that she went out, purchased a tree and held a protest lighting. She’s planning to take similar actions again this year.
“I’m sick of being politically correct. Nobody’s been offended by calling a Christmas tree a Christmas tree,” she told Starnes. “If we have a Menorah in the State House, what are we going to call it – a candle with sticks?”
So, while residents may not have a Christmas tree lighting sanctioned by the governor, they will at least have a ceremony to attend that is being organized by one of their representatives.
(H/T: Fox News’ Todd Starnes)
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Comments (126)
jessieH
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:33amA Menorah is a Menorah. A Chrisrtmas tree is a Christmas tree. What’s so hard about that? See what happens when you elect idiots & morons to any office? They get more & more stupid. Merry Christmas, everyone!
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NovemberTwentyseven
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 12:08pmLet’s deny a holiday that promotes peace, love and joy. That’s a great idea in today’s world. Read fresh Political comentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
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TMDesign
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 12:18pmJust another example of the typical Governmental bully system that so many refuse to oppose. In Washington state, for example, there’s nothing to stop someone from falsely accusing an individual of a crime because the justice system will bully them into a plea sea. Case and point:
http://www.enumclaw.com/articles/washington-state-refuses-to-prosecutes-liars/
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aproudinfidel
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 1:19pmJust one more example of how we are now willing in America to “neuter” our language out of fear of offending what, 100,000 atheists. Screw them and all the other minorities of this or that. This is America. It is a Christmas tree, a Menorah, a cross, a homosexual, a black person, a Jew, a Catholic, an Italian, a Pole, an oriental person, an Indian etc.. If you can’t deal with the reality of what and who things and people are in America then get the hell out of here. Love It Or Leave It.
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Pontiaku
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 2:25pmjessieH, christians don’t get to dictate to the rest of the country what a tree is to them. This is not a theocracy. Your human sacrifice to himself to save ourselves from himself wasn’t crucified on a pine tree. The christmas tree is nothing more than an idea stolen from the Germanic Pagan Yuletide. You don’t have a copyright on it and you don’t have the right to use government coercion to shove your antiquated bronze age mythology down other peoples throats. Christmas is not a legitimate function of government.
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dwilco77
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 3:25pmWhat a loser. Another politician without morals or tes*ticles. What a surprise.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 8:40pmLet’s promote a holiday that says every one is born worthy of an eternal torture and in need of accepting a human sacrifice to avoid torture.
LOVE!
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MinstrelMessiah
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 5:14pmYes a menorah is a menorah and a christmas tree is a christmas tree and nei5ther one has anything to do with “God” or “Jesus Christ”!,
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Tri-ox
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:31amChafee just doesn’t want to offend obama’s muslims and atheists.
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repairsea
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 12:08pmIsn’t it confirming how great our God and faith is when us Christians are attacked for believing in Jesus Christ, our savior, and Lord? This may sound like an odd statement but atheists do not attack other religions. Why? False gods do not upset the demonic spirit of atheism only our one true God.
So here is my atheist challenge. If you truly do not believe I asked you to say praise the Lord Jesus Christ and plead the blood of Christ over you. Ask Jesus to enter your heart. Amen.
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i have black immunity
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 12:12pmHey, be respectful of Our Lord and Savior Owebama!
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RhodyRogue
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 12:22pmBut its ok to offend everyone else? The man needs to grow up.
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MinstrelMessiah
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 5:23pmChafee is smart not to call an altar to an unknown goddess a christmas tree, but he shouldn’t have even called it a “holiday tree”. There is no need for a pagan ritual to be blindly intertwined with a period of time that the birth of the antichrist…YES…I said ANTICHRIST was born…just happened to come from a virgin raped by the angel Lucifer referred to as the “Holy Ghost” by Gabriel.
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perry1980
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:13amWar on Christmas up and running.
Rhode Island for such a small state they are BIG on Liberal
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mycomet123
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:35amYeah them seem to have ALOT OF WEEDS in the state, hopefully the WHEAT will take stand and shove the “holiday tree” up Lincoln Chaffee’s a**!
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PICAPOI
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:57amCheck out Chafee’s history. He traveled the road to the dark side (“GOP” Senator – RINO – FRINO – “Independent”)
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:14am.
I think we need to shove a holiday tree up his @$$ repeatedly untill he gets in the holiday sprit….
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MinstrelMessiah
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 5:30pmI once traveled the “Road to the Darkside”; it was wide and destruction awaited Me at the end and many Christians, Muslims, Catholics, Jehovah Witnesses and Jews still walk it unaware what awaits!
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RIGS
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:42amAll of this crazy “crap” started to realy get going with the election of the marxist president and will continue for the next four years. The govenor of little island is a complete @$$#01E.
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catty
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:59amWait, I thought he was a socialist
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RaydocX
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:40amSeparation of church and state relates to no single STATE SPONSORED RELIGION. It does not EXCLUDE the celebration of religious rites/ ceremonies/ dates. It does not preclude depictions of religious icons. It does not proscribe public prayer.
In point of fact, the atheist MINORITY cannot have it both ways… if they want to laugh about the holiday as being cribbed from the Pagans, it is not even a religious event, per se, and so should not be subject to limitation.
Until the government forces all citizens to view a nativity scene. Until it demands every student sing Christmas carols and the dreidal song, there is NOTHING about this holiday or anything Christian pertaining to school, state house, or public land, that the Supreme Court, any junior court, or any politician should be wasting time considering, much less eliminating.
I don’t guess the governor refused to allow shopping on Black Friday in his state. How did the citizens there elect such a biased, closed minded moron?
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quiltgal
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:35amCommunist
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Pontiaku
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:29amIt’s neither a christmas tree or a holiday tree!
What the hell does a pine tree have to do with christ???
It’s a Yule Tree dammit! Enough with the fictitious war on christmas.
It was christians that waged the war on the pagan Yuletide.
decendentof56
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:37amIn the US, my friend, it is a CHRISTMAS TREE! That is our tradition. Period!
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:58amUsing that logic, one would say that you do not speak English, calling it English is wrong as the original speakers from whence the language descended did not call it English until far later in history than the origination of the language, and thus it’s invalid to refer to it as anything except “North European Language # 5″.
Or we can realize that traditions, like languages, are inherited from previous traditions, and the modern tradition, like the modern language, is its own distinct entity and entitled to respect as its own entity.
What’s worse about this of course is that the actual Christmas tree was invented by the Germans long after they were Christianized, so it’s never been a “pagan tradition” and some kind of tree worship as is claimed. The so called intellectuals are so damned ignorant of history, or at least hope that we are. While “winter solstice” has been celebrated by some cultures, the Christmas tree is distinct to Christianity. And as far as I know, the only folks who celebrated the winter solstice in Europe were the Druids and the Witches. Neither of course being a great group to emulate, what, given the human sacrifice and torture they so adored.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:00amOh, and Yule comes from Old English “gēol”, a mid winter festival held to celebrate, get ready…Christmas!
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Bohump
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:36amClosed Eye,s .. Closed Mind, … Closed Heart, … You WILL Wakeup, .. When The Fire get,s HOT !
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Pontiaku
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:58amSorry decendentof56, you don’t have a copyright on “traditions” especially those you have stolen from other cultures. Christians don’t get to make the rules on what americans celebrate or believe. Despite what delusions you may have, this is not a christian theocracy. Government is not your propaganda machine.
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flipper1073
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 6:25amI thought it was Liberals who Worshiped Trees ?
Us Conservatives Use them to heat our Homes
which are built out of Trees an our Fine REDWOOD Decks.
that we so Enjoy.
Oh, an I Love a Real Christmas Tree
the Smell is worth the Extra Mess
Merry Christmas Everyone !
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MinstrelMessiah
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 6:05pmRead My first reply above! It says it all!
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DawgBreath
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:19amRhode Island?! Seriously? I had no idea that state still existed or even counted for anything.
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catty
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 12:00pmWhere did you think they went?
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phillipwgirard
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 2:28pmIf R.I. doesn’t exist any longer, no one told me, I guess I got left behind, Phil in Tiverton, R.I. lol Merry Christmas to All,,,
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Tractorboy
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 6:59pmDon’t worry after the Chinese back the repo truck up to collect the nations debt, the US will be about the size of RI when they’re done. Happened to the Roman Empire.
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CALLMEMSGT
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:14amFor Unto Us a Son Is Given-G.F. Handel
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strawberry411a
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:05amObama’s reelection has allowed the barbarians to surge THROUGH the gates now. Don’t act surprised. By 2016 we should be completely involved in another civil war more horrible and destructive than the first one. Thank you Mr “President”. YOU had an opportunity as a black man to bring this nation together. You did the exact opposite and now we ALL will pay the price for your lies. And never forget: THE US MEDIA WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AT SOME POINT. ESPECAILLY CHRIS ‘PSYCHO” MATTHEWS OF MSNBC.
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Oldphoto678
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 1:53pmYou talk big, but the fact is you’re not going to do much more than talk.
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StormRider
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:03amOne God, many guns. Mess with the one, meet the many.
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cleansweeplibs
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:02amThis Gov. apparently had an unhappy childhood. If we are not to celebrate Christmas in its traditional form then why have a Christmas Holiday? Just make it “Spend Money on Gifts” Holiday. Our politicians are taking us back to Kings and Queens type rule!!
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oldguy49
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:08amif youall vote for them you deserve what you get…………..that includes lord obama
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Small World
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:59amGood it’s about the birth of Christ not about a tree.
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strawberry411a
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:09amSpoken like a true unbiased atheist/agnostic.
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Pontiaku
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:32amstrawberry411a, what does a decorated pine tree have to do with your god or prophet?
tick tock tick tock tick tock
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booger71
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:40amPontiaku
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:32am
strawberry411a, what does a decorated pine tree have to do with your god or prophet?
tick tock tick tock tick tock
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He is the God of all things, even you
toc…tic…toc…tic
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decendentof56
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:44am@Pontiaku…”strawberry411a, what does a decorated pine tree have to do with your god or prophet”?
It represents the giving of gifts. For believers, that would be the gifts given to the newborn king. Usually it has placed on top a star. That would be the star to guide the wise men to the birthplace of the baby Jesus.
It’s perfectly OK if you do not believe, but to denegrate those who do would not be “inclusive” or “tolerant”, or “multicultural”, or “inclusive.” Now, Pontiaku, you want to be inclusive, don’t you?
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Xiccarph
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:57amOh, yes it is about a “tree”. First they go after the symbols of your beliefs, the ceremonies, the “outward signs”. Once they have removed these, and/or made them illegal, then they come after YOU, and make YOU illegal, and thus expendable for the “good of the people and society”. Everyone is willing to go along to get along as their traditions are stripped away, then one day they wake up and everything is banned, unlawful and forbidden. The only thing left to ban will then be you and any “wrong” beliefs still in your head.
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Pontiaku
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:04ambooger71, non responsive to the question.
“It represents the giving of gifts.”
There is no gift giving tree in your bible.
“Now, Pontiaku, you want to be inclusive, don’t you?”
It is not the job of government to pick and choose which religions get to display their religious propaganda. It is an illegitimate function of government and an abuse of tax payer dollars which is collected from ALL people of ALL religious backgrounds. Put your own damn tree up on your own property with money out of your own pocket.
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strawberry411a
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:08amYou just exposed yourself. You could care LESS about the birth of Christ. You simply used a Christian argument to make your unChristian point. In typical liberal atheistic fashion. Pick a side and stick to it…use your OWN argument to make a point but quit jumping back and forth.
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decendentof56
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:35am@XICCARPH….
Yes, you are correct. But…… I must make the connection of the subtle implications of this act by the RI governor to a much larger movement. This is important, because it is how the US will lose its sovereignty, and is being acted out in every state, town, and municipality in the US as I type.
One of the tenets of Agenda 21 is the elimination of individual wants. Removing the term “Christmas Tree” and renaming it “Holiday Tree” was a “progressive” step which was taken last year. This year, it had no public lighting, if indeed there is even a tree in the RI statehouse.
To be made into a communal state, where all will have exactly the same, we need to remove symbols that differentiate one person from another, such as the “Christmas” tree.
Think of how we’ve eliminated traditional standards in learning, sexual orientation, sexual activity, what is and is not available to our youth on TV. I could go on and on.
Many ask….”how did this filth get on TV.” Well, it got there “progressively”, that’s how. We didn’t think the boobs shown on Hee-Haw were a problem, did we? We didn’t think some leg, or a semi-nude scene shown on TV was a problem. Now its a common thing, brought on “progressively” (in this example) by Hollywood leftists.
The problem for those of us who embrace our American traditions is to identify the varied stealth programs which seek to destroy those very traditions we hold dear, and this is one of those.
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Pontiaku
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:52am“You just exposed yourself. You could care LESS about the birth of Christ.”
Sorry, when did I EVER claim to care about the birth of Christ? It is YOU people claiming exclusive control over the traditions of other cultures and YOU have the GALL to get upset with me? It’s not just your money, it is not just your tree. Stop claiming you have some sort of RIGHT to force others to accept your religious propaganda by government coercion.
“Typical liberal atheistic fashion. ”
Don’t you EVER call me a liberal. I am a true FISCAL CONSERVATIVE unlike you theocrats that want to spend heaping sums of tax payer dollars on tacky decorations and religious propaganda to display on GOVERNMENT property.
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decendentof56
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:56am@Pontiaku..”“It represents the giving of gifts.”
There is no gift giving tree in your bible.
That’s irrelevant. All religions have symbols and traditions. The tree could be bought for/ placed/decorated/and removed at no cost to taxpayers. Other religions could do the same for their religious holidays. If it would make you happy, a state/town/village could designate a location ‘outside’ for these symbols to be placed. We already know many (maybe you) even object to that.
“Now, Pontiaku, you want to be inclusive, don’t you?”
It is not the job of government to pick and choose which religions get to display their religious propaganda. It is an illegitimate function of government and an abuse of tax payer dollars which is collected from ALL people of ALL religious backgrounds. Put your own damn tree up on your own property with money out of your own pocket.
I didn’t say it was the duty of government to choose. I know the Constitution, too. The rest of your comment is hilarious! Here’s why…….
Government (your tax dollars) pays for others, and many of these are illegals:
schooling (plus alternate schools for those who will not learn)
housing
school breakfast and lunch
healthcare
costs of law enforcement (to police their crime infested housing projects)
Are you concerned with those abuses of taxpayers dollars?
The cost of a “Christmas” tree (even if it “was” done at a cost to taxpayers) seems to be pocket change compared to the others.
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strawberry411a
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:58amOk sorry. I meant to say liberal atheistic HYPOCRITE!
strawberry411a
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 12:21pmFiscal conservative: I’m pro human life but support abortion: I want responsible spending by the government but ignore obvious abuse of funds, fraud and government excesses; I am “progressive” and unbiased…as long as I love in a lilly white neighborhood and remain aloof from inner city issues; I support recognition of ALL religions except Christianity: I love my way of life in this country but despise the military…..give us a break. We all know what the “code”word fiscal conservative means now.
Pontiaku
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 12:49pm“a state/town/village could designate a location ‘outside’ for these symbols to be placed”
Why does a government have to “designate a location”? Do you not own or have every opportunity to own private property?
“Government (your tax dollars) pays for others, and many of these are illegals~~”
Do you always justify wrong doing with wrong doing?
“Are you concerned with those abuses of taxpayers dollars?”
Very. That’s what I the blaze SHOULD be spending it’s time on reporting. But that isn’t related to the story now is it? Instead they’re harping on a phony war on religion when the war is two sided. I simply want religious propaganda OUT OF GOVERNMENT. I do not want muslims etc having their chance at abusing the system the same way christians have.
@strawberry411a
Strawman arguments, strawman arguments EVERYWHERE. You’re too stupid to argue with me.
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strawberry411a
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 1:13pmAw. Name calling. The usual resort of the liberal uninformed. Go peddle your GED elsewhere.
strawberry411a
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 1:18pmOh. You can shelve the infamous liberal “straw man talking points” as well. Your fiscal conservatism smells amazingly like lying liberalism…but you re too much of a liar to admit it. So hide behind your “intellectualism”. If nothing else it is amusing.
Pontiaku
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 1:21pm@strawberry411a
By all means, quote the “name calling”.
Calling you “stooopid” isn’t name calling. It’s a factual statement.
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strawberry411a
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 1:32pmCareful…remember you re a “conservative”.
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bekhiet
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:57amRI use your enthusiasm and energy to get this jerk out of office!!!! He represent all that is wrong with this country.
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Depat
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:57amSo, it’s official, Rhode Island has fallen to Satan.
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decendentof56
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:52amWell, we already knew RI is very “progressive.” This is part of the softening up of the populace for the UN’s plans for total control of world population growth.
Rhode Island, I’m sure, will embrace A-21 with open arms. The fools don’t even have enough sense to realize that in the UN-controlled NWO, Agenda 21 will not allow the cutting of trees for mans pleasure.
Americns can’t get enough of government. Fools!
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MinstrelMessiah
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 6:16pm@DEPAT I have news for you, Israel fell to Satan when Abraham began believing in an angel of light that appeared to him and then appeared to Moses.
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DZ-015
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:56amThis article does not state whether a decorated tree by any name is in the Rhode Island Statehouse this year. Is it there, with the governor simply skipping the proclamation? Does he have the power to forbid its being there? One would think that the legislature would control what decorates the building, and whether there are ceremonies involved.
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booger71
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:56amCalling it a Christmas tree instead of holiday tree would not cost the taxpayers a dime. This guy is a maroon.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:11amCalling it a Christmas tree would also be 100% historically accurate. The Christmas tree was invented in 15th-16th century Germany. It’s inspiration was the decorating of houses with *fir branches* on the outside by Germanic people in order to celebrate..Christmas. It also relates to some of the early Christians in the medieval times referencing the tree of life during Christ’s mass (Christmas). Even the specious claims of “Yule!” are silly, Yule comes from gēol (old English), which was a winter celebration for…Christmas.
The Left invents history out of whole cloth, counting on our ignorance of the same.
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doomytram
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:52amJust call it a Ramadan tree and decorate it with Mao, Stalin, Marx, Allah, and Bozo ornaments and you golden. Just be sure to run it past Bozo’s boss Valerie Jarrett and light up that Ramadan tree with the international symbol of Political Correctness a commode.
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WesG
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:51amYou know I just don’t get why atheist aren’t designated a religion. That would solve everyone’s problem. They would no longer be able to put their beliefs in anything since the government can’t have a religion
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Experiment626
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:39amOnce that is done, rights will be given to us by man and by man they can be changed.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:03amWell, atheism is a faith, to be certain. A certain declaration of a non-existence of God is unprovable with evidence and cannot be proven via the scientific method (absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and you cannot prove a negative claim). Thus, the declaration is a statement of faith, which is a statement of fact without proof. For Christians, this is fine, they only have to justify God by faith alone. Atheists put themselves into a religious stance automatically by trying to hold to their supposed “scientific” view.
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decendentof56
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 12:13pmGhost……I had to read sentences 2+3 twice to digest them. Are you “the most interesting man in the world.”
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thibx
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:46amvote that idiot out.
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doomytram
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:54amBe sure a and call the Obozo drones office again this year. Last year all the calls irritated the little Obamunist really bad. His prius was hurting real bad and the dooshbag really got his feelers hurt with the outrage.
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who_is_john_galt_in_RI
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:54ameasier said than done… democrats control the state and even more democrats got elected to state office this election… this a waste of a state…
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Wildblue3
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:59amI tried for years when I lived in RI. The state is VERY democratic. They will vote for the dem no matter what.
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barber2
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:43amTroll working on day one. Another angry atheist just joining the Blaze today to spread some holiday gloom and insults. Sad that these guys have so little to do now that the OWS fiascos have fizzled .
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Oldphoto678
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 2:20pmWe do christmas at our house, but for our family there is no religious connection to it. To us it’s just a time to have some fun with family and friends. Holiday tree, christmas tree, christmas, xmas. We couldn’t care less. It’s just folklore
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:43amFor communism to be a total success here they have to remove God and anything remotely religious from society.Once you remove all references to God the genocide can begin,I’m not talking about this one instance I’m talking about the big picture,what’s been going on for roughly a century.
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bekhiet
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:59amUnfortunately, you are right. This scares the heck out of me. I recently moved to TX and am now going to get involved in local issues. We all need to get involved. Get loud, get angry, and not back down.
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FLguy71
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:15amCommunism was atheistic in the USSR and it wasn’t a success, much less a ‘total’ success. The problem with Communism as a system is that it is based on a faulty foundation that says God does not exist and that men will work collaboratively for the betterment of each other at their own expense in time and property. That denies all that is true about human nature. Capitalism banks on the fact that we are selfish and greedy, wanting to get the biggest bang for our buck. So we have competition, which makes the businesses have to meet our demands as consumers, while finding more efficient means of production to reduce their own costs. Capitalism recognizes our sinful human nature. Communism does not, and therefore never works on a large scale. Someone will always be lazy, someone will always be more ambitious, someone will always want more than what everyone else has. You can have a system that recognizes this and works with it, or one that does not and fails every time it’s tried around the world. Communism is a beautiful idea of sharing and cooperation, but it can’t work because it’s built on a faulty philosophical foundation with a misunderstanding of human nature. Funny that Marx, a total loser in real life, gambling his money away while his children starved (some to death), didn’t see humanity as it truly was.
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Pontiaku
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:31amWhy do you people hate the pagan god Odin so much? Why do you insist on calling it a christmas tree? Christ was never nailed to a pine tree. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with christians.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 11:18amActually, it has everything to do with Christmas. Invented by 15th-16th century Germans as a matter of fact, inspired by CHRISTMAS worship traditions of placing fir branches on one’s home during Christmas.
And Odin was represented by an Oak Tree, not an evergreen. Please, you are making up history as you go along, P ol’ buddy. It’s fine to be against Christmas trees on public property, it’s quite another to display such a breathtaking ignorance couched in arrogance such as you’re showing to us.
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Pontiaku
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 7:07pmGhostOfJefferson
[Actually, it has everything to do with Christmas.]
And what is ChristMASS other than the Roman Catholic church mixing together the “pagan customs & traditions” of Europe (including Saturnalia) with Christianity.
[Invented by 15th-16th century Germans as a matter of fact]
Invented? No, adopted or assimilated into Christianity is not an “invention”. Plagiarism maybe.
[inspired by CHRISTMAS worship traditions of placing fir branches on one’s home during Christmas.]
“The use of evergreen trees, wreaths, and garlands to symbolize eternal life was a custom of the ancient Egyptians, Chinese, and Hebrews.” Whoops. No Christians. Probably because tree worship and decorating proceeded christ and has NO founding in biblical teachings.
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RightUnite
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:40amPanzy.
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IndyGuy
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 9:31amCoward…
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strawberry411a
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:24amDemocrat.
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RightUnite
Posted on November 27, 2012 at 10:26amBazinga!
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