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Nov. 28, 2012 10:16pm Jason Howerton

Bill OReilly and American Atheist President David Silverman Debate Over Christmas

(Fox News)

Christmas is fast approaching and the “war on Christmas” is just getting started, with atheist groups and other secular organizations pushing to ban nativity scenes and make sure the only decorated trees in government buildings are “holiday trees.”

To that effect, Fox News host Bill O’Reilly invited American Atheists President David Silverman onto his program on Wednesday to debate the issue. Though the conversation started pleasant enough, it quickly devolved into a contentious war of words. For example, O’Reilly accused Silverman and his “merry band of fascists” of trying to destroy Christmas.

“You’re an atheist, you’re a non-believer and I respect that. That’s fine. I don’t look down on you. I don’t think you’re a pinhead,” O’Reilly began. “But why you messing around with my tradition? Why are you messing around with Christmas? Just leave it alone. Is there a compelling reason for you to mess around with it?”

Silverman assured the host that they are not “messing around” with anything, rather they are making sure the government does not prefer “one religion over another.”

O’Reilly went on to argue that Christianity is not a religion, it is a “philosophy.”

“Mr. Silverman, it is a fact that Christianity is not a religion. It is a philosophy,” O’Reilly said. “If the government said the Methodist religion deserves a special place in the public square, I would be on your side.”

“So you’re actually going to tell me on live television that Christianity is not a religion,” Silverman replied.

“Correct,” said O’Reilly. “Roman Catholicism is a religion, Judaism is a religion.”

Silverman strongly disagreed, saying all of those are “sects” of Christianity. He also told O’Reilly it was “really not cool” for him to “cloud the issue.”

As tense as things had already gotten, it got even more uncomfortable in hurry after Silverman told O’Reilly that he would have a problem with him putting a “Happy Winter Solstice” sign on New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s office door after he said he wouldn’t.

“Don’t tell me what I think! When I said I didn’t have a problem, I didn’t have a problem. Got it?” O’Reilly scolded, putting his finger in his guests face.

Watch the tense segment via FoxNews/Mediaite below:

The pair also disagreed on whether the Christmas tree was a “secular symbol.” O’Reilly argued that it is, while the American Atheists president said the “Christ” in “Christmas” makes it a religious symbol.

“You are so unreasonable, it is frightening,” O’Reilly shot back.

“It’s a federal holiday. Why don’t you get off your but and get it revoked and see how far that you go,” he added. “Your view is insane.”

It was towards the end of the segment that O’Reilly called Silverman a “fascist.” Of course, like with everything else between the two, Silverman disagreed. “I am a patriot,” he said.

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Comments (235)

tmbell87
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:34pm
Speaking as an atheist, I don’t have a leader speaking for me. The fact that atheists even band together under a symbol, person, or entity is completely ass-backwards and ridiculous to me. Furthermore, if you look around and you think for a second that Christmas is a Christian holiday any longer, than you are delusional. On the average, if you ask a child what Christmas is about, the birth of Jesus Christ is not the #1 answer. It’s about reindeer, presents, and the fat guy that brings them to you.

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:18am
  So true, and here’s why.
  
  http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:01am
  What do you(really) know about the Roman church?
  http://www.reformation.org/secret.html
  
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- pdw
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:27am
  Line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little there a little he will lead you down to hell. In other words we are being spoon fed BS and rather than stand up for our belief we let each attempt go by with any attempt to respond. An atheist is not suppose to believe in anything so why should what others believe bother them? Because they do believe in something and do not like others to have an opinion except theirs. But when they try to take away our rights we need to stand up. Separation of Church and Stare has been twisted to please fools who use the lack of understanding a law as the weapon of choice.
  
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- tradcatholicgirl
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:29am
  Actually,TMBELL
  
  I know hundreds of children (personally) who know what Christmas is all about. I think maybe you don’t know enough Christian kids?
  
  No matter how many millions of people secularize Christmas with their emphasis on buying buying buying, it doesn’t negate the millions who know that they are joyously celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ!
  
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- ltb
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:41am
  I’m so sick of atheists. We get it already, you people are malcontents who want everybody else to be as miserable as yourselves. Why don’t you guys start your own special little unholiday for this time of year and call it Miserymas? You can celebrate it by sitting alone in your basements hurling insults at strangers on the Internet while you stew in thoughts of how life has cheated you… oh wait, that’s what you people do every day of the year, so I guess there wouldn’t be anything special about it.
  
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- MrSunshine
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:49am
  Hey LTB, they DO have their own holiday. It’s celebrated every year on April 1st.
  
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- Rightallalong
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:58am
  BILLO is a big government progressive who just wants his BIG government. He supported gun confiscation during Katrina and thinks the oath to the constitution is a load of crap.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isd0FlGb_LY
  
  and watch him defend smashing the constitution
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICoiFBWGX4M
  
  WHat a total POS!
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:03am
  O’Reilly is correct the tree is a secular symbol. It is not part of the rituals or canon of Christianity. Furthermore O’Reilly nailed it when he told the atheist to take it to court to remove Christmas as a national holiday. The atheist cur said they don’t have the votes..and there lies the crux of their whole strategy..erode and devalue Christianity everywhere possible to create a society that “doesn’t see” Christianity in society..then try to get the votes.
  The atheist cur also tried to insinuate that he’s “forced” to take the day off on Christmas day….apparently he must complain and beg his boss each year to let him work that day and each year he’s denied..the poor soul..sorry…wretch..he doesn’t have a soul right?
  
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- ltb
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:14am
  According to a 2012 Rasmussen poll, 68% of Americans prefer stores that celebrate Christmas with “Merry Christmas” signs to stores that use generic signs like “Happy Holidays.” That being the case, I would imagine most people know exactly what CHRISTmas is about.
  
  If someone had told me 15 years ago that America would reach a point where people were offended by being wished “Merry Christmas” I would have said they were insane. How miserable do you have to be to snarl at someone for wishing you “Merry Christmas”? Seriously… when a person has become so miserable that he flies into a rage when people wish him well, at what point does he finally realize that his notions about the meaning of life are so far off base that they are destroying him?
  
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- JabberwockyBandersnatch
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:16am
  The reason Christian’s claim that atheists are “at war with religion” is because of the seemingly constant attacks on main-stream religions, while not holding other spiritual beliefs to the same account. While they press law-suits on crosses at ground-zero, streets being named “heaven”, and praying to a non-existent imaginary sky-god at public meetings and school functions, I don’t see atheists attacking other non-existent believe systems such as Wicca or Witchcraft, religious environmentalism (Earth-worship), Roman/Greek poly-deism, Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth fairy. While I don’t believe in these ideas, I don’t go out of my way to discredit them either. I don’t put signs on buses claiming a “Zeus-less America”, if someone wants to believe in Zeus then all the power to ‘em! I don’t try to convince children that the presents they get under their tree, in their baskets, or under their pillow really come from their parents because the fact that some little kids believe in the imaginary does no real harm.
  
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- JabberwockyBandersnatch
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:28am
  They don’t want a Christian cross in the middle of OUR museum, i.e., WTC memorial, however do they have any issue with the goddess Persephone statue, aka Statue of Freedom, on the Capitol Dome in Washington D.C., goddess Athena statue in Athens New York, the god Mars at the entrance of the Capitol building, the god Prometheus Statue at New York’s Rockefeller Center. If the phrase “In God We Trust” is a declaration of government sponsored religion then the Department of Justice’s motto of as Qui Pro Domina Justitia Sequitur or “who prosecutes on behalf of Lady Justice”, i.e. Justitia, or the goddess of justice, is also, however I have not heard of any atheist try to get that one removed thereby rendering our justice system neutral. They fight against pledging allegiance to the flag with “one-nation under God”, however I haven’t seen any fight against the U.N. support of pledging allegiance to the Earth whereas some would consider this a form of Earth-worship.
  
  Some of the names of the months, days of the week, and planets of the solar system are named for fictitious gods, this would therefore be living dependent on false deities because we absolutely cannot function as an American society without conforming to the names given to them.
  
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- JabberwockyBandersnatch
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:29am
  Although I do believe in a creator who I call God, I don’t try to abolish the ideas of poly-deists. We as a society have always studied other cultures and their beliefs. We go to Egypt and admire the great pyramids and ancient religious relics. Native-American history is studied in our schools which include spiritual beliefs. I believe that it is important to allow a society to display their common symbolic beliefs in order that future societies will be able to study current history in the future.
  From what I understand, Atheists are generally okay with a person can walking into a psychologist’s office, paying someone who has a PhD in the empirical theory of behavior (whereas the word psychology literally means the study of one’s soul, or spirit), and getting advice and counseling in therapeutic means to better oneself. However they see it “immoral” for someone who has a PhD in the empirical theory of theology to collect tithes from people who come for advice and counseling in the means of spiritually bettering oneself; what’s the difference?
  
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- JabberwockyBandersnatch
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:30am
  They claim that Atheism is the only “ism” that obeys the laws of physics, however the law of conservation of energy states that the total amount of energy in a system remains constant over time, therefore energy cannot be created nor destroyed; where did the energy in our universe come from? Creationists simply believe that the 3-dimentional universe is a closed-energy system which derives its energy from an energy system of which we contribute as God. In fact, the only way the energy in this Universe could possibly exist is from some sort of alternate energy source which we with finite knowledge cannot fully comprehend because the laws of 3-dimensional physics cannot account for where the initial energy derived from (4-dimentions if one considers time a dimension, however Noether’s theorem would debate that the laws of physics is independent of time). So in perspective, religion actually has some rational thought albeit contrary to Atheists.
  I’m not here to try to argue my beliefs, or convince they there is a God, I just want to know: why the push towards freedom from religion vice freedom of religion, and specifically main-stream religions such as Christianity and Judaism. How is my fictitious God of Christianity different than the fictitious gods of mythology, or the earth god Gaia, or those of Native Americans? I don’t see atheists trying to eliminate those religious symbols in a similar manner, I wonder about the consistency of their group.
  
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- jefftavolieri
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:55am
  As an atheist, I am going to do everything I can to destroy “Christmas” as christians know it. I tell people’s kids about the solstice, saturnalia, mithras, everything. Even if it’s not true, I will lie to your kids. And I’m a teacher.
  
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- ltb
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:19pm
  Every Who Down in Whoville Liked Christmas a lot…
  But Jeff, Who lived just north of Whoville, Did NOT!
  Jeff hated Christmas! The whole Christmas season!
  Now, please don’t ask why. No one quite knows the reason.
  It could be his head wasn’t screwed on just right.
  It could be, perhaps, that his shoes were too tight.
  But I think that the most likely reason of all,
  May have been that his heart was two sizes too small….
  
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- ltb
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:21pm
  “They’re finding out now that no Christmas is coming!”
  “They’re just waking up! I know just what they’ll do!”
  “Their mouths will hang open a minute or two,
  Then the Whos down in Whoville will all cry BooHoo!”
  “That’s a noise,” grinned Jeff, “That I simply MUST hear!”
  
  So he paused. And Jeff put his hand to his ear.
  And he did hear a sound rising over the snow.
  It started in low. Then it started to grow.
  But the sound wasn’t sad! Why, this sound sounded merry!
  It couldn’t be so! But it WAS merry! VERY! …
  
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- ltb
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:22pm
  He stared down at Whoville! Jeff popped his eyes!
  Then he shook! What he saw was a shocking surprise!
  Every Who down in Whoville, the tall and the small,
  Was singing! Without any presents at all!
  
  He HADN’T stopped Christmas from coming! IT CAME!
  Somehow or other, it came just the same!
  And Jeff, with his Jeff-feet ice-cold in the snow,
  Stood puzzling and puzzling: “How could it be so?”
  “It came with out ribbons! It came without tags!”
  “It came without packages, boxes or bags!”
  And he puzzled three hours, till his puzzler was sore.
  Then Jeff thought of something he hadn’t before!
  “Maybe Christmas,” he thought, “doesn’t come from a store.”
  “Maybe Christmas…perhaps…means a little bit more!”
  
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- BlasberryStrat
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:34pm
  The ‘fact’ is that we as America have come upon a time where it has become “the cool – in thing” to scream out “atheist rights”. Why? Money – period. The over the top public atheist rants are “in” just like every other reality show on the air. People are watching because it evokes what tiny little emotions that they have left, because in this age of electronic babysitters the people have zero imagination or emotion. We also have the time of a Liberal Admin. and Court system that has allowed these “tax exempt” groups to sue. Atheism isn’t in the hearts of these people, it’s a “business scam” that makes the “leaders” multi millions in law suits. And once the “Dancing with the Stars people” start loosing interest in the ‘shock value’, the atheist will crawl back in their little nests and wait. Here’s one: If this guy wants Gov. to be “fair” to everyone, then why are they trying to get Church to pay taxes – yet it’s “perfectly OK” for the atheist organizations to be TAX EXEMPT?
  
  Listen buddy. My father (life time School Supt.) stated to every graduating class, “High school is over. There is no longer ‘fair and un-fair’. As adults there is only ‘right and wrong’”. Pretty good words to live by. So stop ‘acting’ like a 16 year old drama queen and stop yelling “un-fair…un-fair”. You putz. By the way, your leader Gaynor…looks like a bull seal that even the most disgusting ***** chick wouldn’t touch….
  
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- armyofnibiru
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 1:05pm
  @MR SUNSHINE@…….useing the defintion of religion in the dictionary…athiests celebrate their god on may 5th.
  
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- R0g4tum_2012
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 1:35pm
  You guys do know that December 25th is not the “agreed” upon birth date of Jesus Christ, right? “Christmas” was celebrated long before christians “hijacked” the festival.
  
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- longknifed
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 2:31pm
  Not sure who Im more sick of – atheists or fake christians.
  
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- sowingseed
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 3:24pm
  The folks that go to the Church I attend, and many larger ones still believe in the Christmas story. But I do have to agree that the would has slipped in its own interpretation, and removed the pure joy that we love about Christmas. Jesus the son of God and Savior of all who received God’s gift to man. Jesus the word of God come in the flesh to say, “God LOVES YOU”. Believe it and receive you gift from God.
  
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- K Chad Roberts
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 4:06pm
  I too am an atheist. This whole argument over Christmas being supported by the government is ridiculous. I once put up a little Christmas Tree in my office at work, and someone commented on how it was a nice little “Holiday Tree”. I corrected them and said, “I celebrate Christmas, not a generic Holiday. This is a Christmas tree.” It was clearly a very shocking thing for them to hear, but I was somewhat mad at the prospect of being told what my stuff is. It’s a Christmas tree, and tolerance means to accept what I say it is. You don’t have to like it, but you must accept it, otherwise your “Freedom” is impinging on my freedom.
  
  Liberty: Freedom from coercion against non-coercive action
  
  Even as an Atheist, I recognize the cultural and religious importance of Christmas. Christ has had a profound, positive impact on my life. Regardless of this fact, Christmas is a HUGE cultural force. What’s happening now is almost like prohibition. Argue all you want about how bad drinking alcohol is/celebrating Christmas > other holiday… it’s a part of our culture and our country, and changing it is absolutely crazy.
  
  I also agree with the stance, that Christmas Tree’s don’t necessarily represent Christianity. Also, putting them in the public square hardly coerces other peoples’ freedoms to believe and do what they want. Exposure to ideas is not harmful, but mandating them is. No law says “Put a Christmas tree up every year”… these government groups just do it by themse
  
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- ohnomrbill
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:45pm
  Ok so I have many friends who don’t do christmas but they still enjoy the holiday, time off the concept of family and so this guy is not speaking for very many people why even give him the time to rant his rant
  
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- ltb
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:37pm
  K Chad, I like your comment. Judging by how reasonable you are, I’d like to recommend a book that I think you would probably find interesting. The book is called “Cosmic Codes” and was written by Chuck Missler, who is brilliant by any standard. After reading that book, if any reasonable person can still tell him/herself that there is no God and that there’s nothing special about the Bible, I’d be very surprised. You can also watch Chuck Missler’s presentation of what’s in the book on Youtube (search for “Cosmic Codes” – I think there are 8 volumes total).
  
  Here’s a short video about some of the interesting things that Chuck discusses in his book: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMtuA0YX6I4.
  
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- K Chad Roberts
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 2:34pm
  Thank you for the book recommendation LTB, I will definitely look into it. I have read the Bible as a child, once through in high school, and again all the way through just recently. I’ve read the Book of Mormon, translations of the Koran, many of the holy books associated with these religions. I am also just starting to look into Hindu books.
  
  I must readily admit that I am Agnostic Atheist. My belief rejects the idea of God, but I certainly recognize that I cannot possibly know for sure. I just suspect that there isn’t one, or that the nature of God’s existence is much, much different from what is represented in modern religion. It’s just easier to state that I am Atheist, since most people don’t recognize a distinction.
  
  Anywho, I will catch up to you later once I read the book. It could be a few months, but I will get back to you.
  
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- Utah Jones
  Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:55pm
  This could be a great Christmas gift for all of your believing friends… http://www.amazon.com/An-Angry-Letter-God-Manifesto/dp/1481004832/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354931372&sr=8-1&keywords=an+angry+letter+to+god
  
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Cosmos102
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:27pm
When do Christians attack atheists in the same manner that Atheists attack Christians for their beliefs? Never. Christians founded this country. It would not be the United States of America were it not for Christians. Christian philosophy has made it the greatest country in the world. Christians have shown Atheists their tolerance. There is a limit. And atheists better be warned, you’ve met your limit. Even exceeded it.

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- dunkmeister
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:59pm
  Bill babe, admire you for defending birth-of-Jesus celebration, but changing the vocabulary is not the way to do it. We have to use commonly-understood words in the way they are understood today to do battle w/ the atheists. So you claiming “Christianity is not a religion” is just nuts. What is at the heart of this is, a misunderstanding of the First Amendment and its establishment clause. In the parlance of 1780s America–using the vocabulary of the Founders, and understanding that they established our country in part b/c in England the Church of England WAS the official state religion, they wrote the First Amendment to prevent that happening, with, say, the most powerful denomination, Congregationalism, founded by Puritans in Massachusetts. So when the Founders decreed that the gov’t shall not ‘establish’ a ‘religion,’ they meant what we today would call a ‘denomination’ or ‘sect.’ However, they did NOT mean that gov’t should prohibit religious expression, as the atheists want to do, MIS-using the First Amendment. The proof of this is in the actual wording of the Amendment–the atheists only quote the first part. Take it in its entirety and put it in the cultural/linguistic context of the 1780s to understand its meaning today:
  “…Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion, nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof…” Think about the tyranny of the Church of England, where many of the Founders grew up, and you’ll understand its true
  
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- ModerationIsBest
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:01am
  Yeah, Christians never you know, killed people for not being a Christian.
  
  The only reason Christianity is where it’s at now is because it’s been dragged kicking and screaming through the centuries by secularists.
  
  Christianity was once just as violent and brutal as Islam, they just didn’t have 21st century weapons to prove how peaceful they were.
  
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- nzkiwi
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:26am
  @ Cosma
  
  Every single sentence that you wrote is correct.
  
  Having viewed the many links provided by Christians on this site recently, it seems obvious to me that this attack on Christianity, and it is an attack, is motivated by political goals.
  
  Hardcore socialism, marxism, call it what you will, is attacking Christianity because its philosophy is a major stumbling block to clear socialist goals. I have never quite understood before why American atheists are so aggressive, almost venomous, in the pursuit of their position. Atheists in other countries are seldom so full of vitriol, and the reason has become obvious.
  
  Links provided by some of you guys show that this really has little to do with atheism as such, but rather, it is an attempt to break down community morality and the family unit so that America can be lead by the nose to socialism.
  
  One need look no further than Saul Alinsky.
  
  Rather than getting bogged down in a never-ending arguement about Christianity and atheism, one should attack socialists where they exist ideologically. At the end of the day, no-one can PROVE whether Christianity or atheism is wrong. The only people who know for certain are dead.
  
  One can, however, effortlessly prove that socialism is wrong. The evidence is overwhelming. And, unlike religion, schools are permitted to do it. Eviscerate socialism and the attack on your Christian culture will cease as it becomes pointless.
  
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- nzkiwi
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:36am
  Someone, and I apologise for not remembering who, left this link the other day.
  
  http://vimeo.com/52009124
  
  It doesn’t load easily so you might have to be patient. Start there and then do some digging along those lines. The truth will become so obvious that one will wonder how one missed it before.
  
  This is where to apply pressure. Education. And this has been sorely overlooked – until now, hopefully…
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:38am
  Due to a change of policy and Executive Orders – The following is the 2013 National Holiday Schedule going forth each and every year.
  New Year’s Day – 01JAN – Has been changed to the first Tuesday of November and renamed to Obama’s Diety Day
  Martin Luther King Jr. Day – 15JAN – Gone – So many have no idea of who he was and what he stood for, so why keep it
  Mother’s Day – 12MAY – Stays – But is changed to Obama Day – Because he’s a mutha
  Memorial Day – 27MAY – Henceforth known as National Picnic Day – Why memorialize the dead – They’re already dead and the administration doesn’t believe in the military dead anyhow.
  Father’s Day – TBD (For the followers of Obama Diety Day that means To Be Determined
  Independence Day – 04JUL – Gone – No independence so we don’t need this one
  Labor Day – 02SEP – This one stays says because the unions say so
  Halloween – 31OCT – Henceforth known as Celtic festival of Samhain
  Veteran’s Day – 11NOV – Gone – See the former Memorial Day
  Thanksgiving Day – Henceforth known as Black Thursday to help the economy and sales taxes
  Christmas Day – 25DEC – Henceforth known as Winter Solstice Day – Because Atheist say so
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:47am
  Christmas Day – 25DEC – Henceforth known as Winter Solstice Day – Because Atheist say so
  
  Change “Because Atheist say so” TO “Because some guy that wanted to run a non-for-profit organization and others like him, claims to represent ALL atheists, and they say so.”
  
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- SUNTZU
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 1:54am
  DAD
  I thought Labor day would have been changed
  to Abortion Day
  
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- orangetom1999
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 1:56am
  ModerationIsBest,
  
  You should rethink this kind of stuff..it doesnt make good nonsense once you know.
  
  “The only reason Christianity is where it’s at now is because it’s been dragged kicking and screaming through the centuries by secularists.”
  
  Try this one out about “Enlightened Secularists” and their monopoly on Enlightenment.
  
  From Democide Wiki…death by ones own government by R. J. Rummel.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide
  
  Notice about three quarters of the way down the article this appears.
  
  “His research shows that the death toll from democide is far greater than the death toll from war. After studying over 8,000 reports of government-caused deaths, Rummel estimates that there have been 262 million victims of democide in the last century. According to his figures, six times as many people have died from the inflictions of people working for governments than have died in battle.”
  
  Notice that this is in the last hundred years. You dont have to go back that far to figure this out. Death by ones own government ..in times of wisdom and enlightenment….secularism.
  
  I dont put much stock in secularism and todays government intelligence..including public education since they try to totally avoid such thinking and even such history.
  
  Your tack works well with most people..but not me once I knew about Democide. You are counting on most people not knowing any history. In this you would be correct. But not with me.
  
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- S G Applebee
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 2:12am
  O’Reilly has really lost it on this one. And I only need two quotes to prove it:
  
  “Christianity is not a religion” and “The Christmas Tree is secular”.
  
  Nothing more needs to be said.
  
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- SUNTZU
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 2:29am
  Satan has preverted most of the modern day churches teachings
  that it is almost impossible to defend
  The Bible says in the end times the whole world is deceived. all but a few
  the elect.
  When Christ confronted the church in his time,He was killed
  however it was written years before,and it happened.So maybe what was written about
  the end time,well I think you are seeing it come to pass before your eyes now .
  When men say that good is bad, and bad is good and think of themselfs as gods
  then you know the end is near.
  Go ahead say what you will about me,I’m just a man Each of us is given Free Will
  But if God has chosen to blind you now before your judgement He will show you the
  truth and give you a chance. the only unpardonable sin is when he knows you know
  the truth and then reject it.
  
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- darkknight91
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 2:56am
  Christianity is not and never has been murderous. Catholicism holds that history. The two are not the same. Catholicism is rooted in paganism. Bill is wrong about Christianity not being a religion but is right about the Christmas tree being secular. It started with Nimrod and is a pagan symbol.
  
  Thus says the Lord : “Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, For the Gentiles are dismayed at them. For the customs of the peoples are futile; For one cuts a tree from the forest, The work of the hands of the workman, with the ax. They decorate it with silver and gold; They fasten it with nails and hammers So that it will not topple. (Jeremiah 10:2-4 NKJV)
  
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- Ragnars Repos
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 2:56am
  Bring it.
  
  You can’t even defend ‘your’ country from Progressive betas. You think you can take out atheists?
  
  There are no atheists in foxholes cuz we’re out kickin’ a**, you dig?
  
  Get an afterlife, Bozo.
  
  (Not really serious–just returning the smack talk.)
  
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- dwilco77
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 3:48am
  What is this guy? An F-in Hampster? What does he have tucked in his cheeks. I could hardly hear what he was saying as I couldn’t take my eyes off his swollen bulbs on each side of his face.
  
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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 4:00am
  SUNTZU… no, you’re not alone in this thinking. God stirs the hearts of those willing to listen to the prompting of the Spirit and to notice the ‘season’ so our brothers and sisters can’t say they weren’t warned. There is a tremendous amount of fasting and prayers for them.
  ~Crusade Prayer (85) to save the United States of America from the hand of the deceiver~
     “O dear Jesus, cover our nation with Your most precious protection. Forgive us our sins against God’s Commandments. Help the American people to turn back to God. Open their minds to the True Path of the Lord.
     Unlock their hardened hearts, so that they will welcome Your Hand of Mercy. Help this nation to stand up against the blasphemies, which may be inflicted upon us to force us to deny Your Presence.
     We beseech you, Jesus, to save us, protect us from all harm and embrace our people in Your Sacred Heart. Amen.”
  
  DARKKNIGHT91… it wasn’t Catholics in Salem.
  
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- Robert Hawk
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 6:26am
  Christianity is not a philosophy any one who calls themselves a Christian and is not aware of that fact, has never actually read the text with understanding. Philosophy or in its Greek form philosophia is a doctrine all to its self. The Apostle Paul stated such in two places in biblical text, Acts 17 and Colossians chapter 2.
  
  Christians need to get this straight as philosophia doctrine is the base doctrine of Hegel and his students which include (Feuerbach, Bauer, Sterner and Marx & Engels), as well as Darwin and George B Shaw and a whole host of others. The implementation methods you refer to as Communism or Socialism or Progressivism have as their base philosophia (philosophy) doctrine. Therefore philosophy does not describe a general activity it defines a very specific doctrine which was devised in Athens in respect of the goddess athena.
  
  Quit being dense and look it up for yourself. Start with Hegel who was a professor (professed) of philosophia doctrine at the University of Berlin. There is a solid connection from Hegel all the way back to the Stoic believers in Athens
  
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- jrc99
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 6:58am
  @Moderation
  
  “Yeah, Christians never you know, killed people for not being a Christian.”
  
  Correct!
  
  “The only reason Christianity is where it’s at now is because it’s been dragged kicking and screaming through the centuries by secularists.”
  
  What do you mean?
  
  “Christianity was once just as violent and brutal as Islam, they just didn’t have 21st century weapons to prove how peaceful they were.”
  
  That’s a lie. Where has the teaches of Jesus ever said anything close to islam?
  
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- 1947
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 7:27am
  Most Atheists are employed by “WHO”…?
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:14am
  As I have stated over and over again, the war on Christ is a Jewish led movement. David Silverman is not Muslim. The ACLU, the soul of the anti-Christ movement, is not Muslim. It is very Jewish however, per Rabbi Daniel Lapin.
  
  Facts are not antisemitic. Antisemitism is used to hide the facts.
  
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- grimmster
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:31am
  Atheism is a “religion” of hate, its main target is religion.These people hate religion, God, the bible etc…because of the lifestyle they lead. Most are gay,sodomizers,or perform some sort of debotchery. Its funny, you never see them go after islam,or the muslim “religion”,maybe because they know its a cult. Its time to stop the few, trying to change the lives, and life style of the many, time to fight back,either by hook,or by crook…..
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:38am
  O’rielly is right that Christianity is not a religion but, he’s wrong about it being a philosophy too. It is a state of forgiveness. You are either reconciled to God by faith in His Son or you are not. It’s like being pregnant. You either are [a Christian] or you are not.
  
  The doctrines and associations we join ourselves to in order to share a like un-provable faith is a religion. i.e Catholic, Baptist, Pentacostal, Shiite, Kurdish, Evolutionist, Atheist.
  
  And yes, the Christmas tree is a secular display. You will not only never find a Christmas tree in the Bible (and no, the Baal bush is not a Christmas tree), you will not find Christmas! Christmas or “Christ’s mass” was started by the Catholic church. There is no commandment in the Bible to celebrate the birth of Christ. However, it is a good and acceptable thing to do so, the non-Catholic Christians have continued the tradition.
  
  Those who say a Christmas tree is a religious symbol is laughably stupid.
  
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- ambrosia
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:47am
  Oh wow, fancy that-
  the esteemed “President of American Atheists”,
  that must make me Dagwood Bumpstead !
  
  He makes the Grinch who stole Christmas look like the Good Humor man.
  
  Like, Smiley O’ Reilly said,
  NOBODY cares what you think, buddy-
  go to work on Christmas Day & carry on.
  Doubt, you even have an office-
  probably a desk in a Palm Beach condo with a pantry full of blueberry Poptarts.
  
  This ain’t nothing but polyester pride & poppycock-
  his ploy to attain some kind of of power.
  Go get a real job, Dinkleballs-
  do something productive & altruistic with your time.
  
  Just read-
  where the Salvation Army is in desperate need of bell-ringers this season,
  they’d even be charitable to an atheist,
  go jump in a pair of long-johns & do your part.
  
  Drop a few bucks of your own kibble in the bucket
  while you’re at it, Romeo.
  
  Busy yourself & mind with redeeming acts
  & keep your porcupine paws OFF everyone else’s joy.
  
  Oh & have yourself a merry, little…day off, ya’ big GRINCH.
  Even nincompoopers like you get to vegetate in their atheist underwear,
  on your own terms, doin’ your own thing…WE don’t wanna’ know !
  
  Stick a freaken’ candy cane up your surly ****,
  smack yourself in the face with a “Have-Mercy” pie-
  just own your own misery,
  don’t try to prove yourself indignant
  by foreclosing on Christmas.
  
  Atheist or not-
  you’re already on Santa’s naughty list.
  
  Merry Christmas, Grinch…same to you Billy Blue-Eyes !
  
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- Paool
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:44am
  @Moderation – I have had it up to here with people bringing up the crusades as an argument against the peacefulness of Christianity. Seriously, that was way back in the Dark Ages man. If you don’t have anything newer than that you really can’t say squat about us. Christians have more peaceful operations around the world doing good for everyone, Christians, Atheists and other faiths alike. Yes, you do have the few crazies (Westboro) but that again is a few hundred out of hundreds of millions of people.
  @Dunkmeister – I have no problem with O’Reilly playing word games to reach an end when it comes to these atheists. These people manipulate the bureaucracy to their own end and have gotten away with stomping on our faith for too long. It’s time we play their game (without going against the Lord’s teachings @ the same time of course :D )
  
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- starang
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:32am
  You are missing his point. He is not attacking Christianity. He is attacking the government.
  
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- mercenary4freedom
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:54am
  Athiests will fuel the fires in Hell. We should all ignore them.
  
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- VanceUppercut
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:24am
  From the Treaty of Tripoli, signed in 1796: “”As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”
  
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- Inlightofthings
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:44am
  DUNKMEISTER nailed it. The only explanation for the erosion of the 1st Amendment and recognition of religion in society is all the JD’s behind our representatives names.
  
  This guy calls himself a patriot. I fail to see how that is possible in that by virtue of refusing to embrace how and why the country was founded you can be patriotic. An upstanding member of society perhaps, maybe even patriotic in some sense, but certainly not a true patriot.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:51am
  Why of course Orwellianly named MODERATIONISBEST….we’ll just ignore the vehemently secular, twentieth century constructs of Stalin’s Russia, Hitler’s Germany, Khmer Rouge, Maoist China..etc…who between them have killed and incarcerated hundreds of millions of people…why..China still has gulags don’t you know?
  Yes..let’s give a big rousing hoorah for humanism and it’s unblemished record.
  
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- Inlightofthings
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:53am
  VANCE: Understood, but it’s out of context. Bottom line is that a fundamental understanding of the 1st Amendment is required. To say in that Treaty that it was founded on the “Christian Religion” would be contradictory of the 1st Amendment and the Bill of Rights signed just a few years prior. Look at the writings with references to God. Never is He referred to as “Our Christian God” or “the Invisible Hand of our Christian God”. Everyone seems to forget the make-up up the citizenry at the time….Jews, Catholics, Muslims etc etc. It’s all there in plain english in the Declaration, Preamble and the BOR.
  
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TJexcite
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:19pm
Atheists still will be the first line of defense against the coming North American Caliphate. That is why the radicals have to do it slower than any radical would like and know it will be generation long battle of the project. We will see which side they really fall on when there is a call to pray in the lawn of the White House with 100K+ people bowing to Mecca at the Washington Mall. Will they allow to set up tents to treat the cuts on when there is a Day of Ashoura in Times Square.

The big one will be that I have not seen yet is will Atheists fight tooth and nail to silence a decade old church bell that run once on Sunday, to either turn a blind eye or fight just as hard to allow the call to pray 5 times a day every day.

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- Ragnars Repos
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 3:06am
  “We will see which side they really fall on when there is a call to pray in the lawn of the White House with 100K+ people bowing to Mecca at the Washington Mall.”
  
  Zero tolerance for all crazy cult members on the WH lawn, the Mall, or the town square.
  
  I must say that it’s good to see that you’re thinking.
  
  Stop a nativity scene today, stop the other cult freaks tomorrow.
  
  Frankly, I’d much rather have christians around me, so perhaps we can work together a bit on this one.
  
  Our children will thank us.
  
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- NOTMOHAMMED
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 4:22am
  I LIKE when mooslims pray. It makes it sooooooo much easier to p@ss on them.
  
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- Robert Hawk
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 6:32am
  One there will never be a caliphate in the United States… its not written that the house of Israel is becomes captive to Ishmael. With that out of the way lets say this. Atheists would not survive a caliphate in the United States because they would be viewed as infidels who would not bend a knee to Allah and therefore they would be exterminated…. Completely.
  
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- Marine25
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:45am
  Christianity not a religion but a philosophy? Okay Bill. Why don’t you go tell every Christian Church that the law says we tax philosophical organizations, and these philosophies have been mistakenly tax-exempt to the tune of about 3 trillion dollars. Ask them if that will be cash or check.
  
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ShyLow
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:15pm
Here is what the Bible says about christmas trees
http://www.blurtit.com/q145977.html

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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:38pm
  SHYLOW. Interesting. The comments were informative also.
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:46pm
  The official name of each day of the week also has a pagan origin. If your church has a steeple, its origin dates back to the days of Nimrod and his temples of worship. If you celebrate Birthdays, you’re exalting yourself, and if you light a candle on a cake, you’re practicing witchcraft, and calling on the spirits to grant your wish. The list goes on. If you’re going to condemn one practice, condemn them all, and practice none, lest you be a hypocrite.
  
  “Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth. And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know… As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled. But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.”
  
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- S G Applebee
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 2:37am
  Shhhhhhh, Christians don’t want to hear that. The only want to hear the things in The Bible they AGREE with.
  
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- Robert Hawk
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 6:42am
  If you are going to quote the word … quote it and with understanding.
  These heathen were shaping the tree like a male organ (phallic symbol), and worshiping it… get it?
  Jeremiah 10
  1 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
  2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
  3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
  4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
  5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
  
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mejjr66
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:10pm
Any American citizen who happens to be an atheist has a voice, just like any other citizen. They should be heard. They may be a minority, but in this country they have a right to voice their opinion. I can assure you that they are more numerous than you can imagine, yet they all do not want to dispel with Christmas traditions. Lighten up, America. There are more important issues at hand.

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- TH777
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:43am
  I’m not sure who you are telling to “lighten up”. I hope it’s the atheist since they are the ones using every opportunity to take Christians to court whether it be over nativity scenes, Christmas trees, Charlie Brown Christmas movies, crosses, etc., etc., etc. I think it’s the atheist who needs to lighten up! If they don’t believe in Christ then that’s their business but I don’t see how their “non beliefs” trumps my “beliefs”. I would also like to know how many of these “non believers” accept a paid holiday for Christmas. How many accept a Christmas bonus. If they make demands that anything associated with Christ or Christmas be removed because it “offends” them then they had better demand “NOT” to get a paid holiday off and refuse a Christmas bonus if one is given to them by their employer. After all, shouldn’t that also offend them or are only the “benefits” of Christmas acceptable to them.
  
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- U4eeeahhh
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 7:57am
  TO TH77 When compared to most American Atheists, I have a unique history. I am a forth generation Atheist My father [b.1905], his father [b.1872] and his father [b.1848, Sweden] were all “Freethinkers” a philosophical movement in Germany and Scandinavia in the 19th Century. Google it, there were protests and arrests for blasphemy and many German and Swedish Immigrants to America of that period were Freethinkers. German towns in the Texas Hill Country of that era banned churches from within their city limits. I’ve known some very strident anti-Xmas folks in my life. My father liked mostly to ignore it and we traveled a lot on holidays. His business gave out year end bonuses and we always called it Winter Holiday. We had a tree a few times, my mother was a social Episcopalian as some participation in the church was part of Virginia Country life, my father rode in an event call the Blessing of the Hounds for years, a fox hunt that starts at a church with a blessing of the dogs & horses. Point is that becasue your reason for seasonal celebration is rooted in your supernatural deity does not equate to non-believers having to forgo the time off or bonuses that are part of the holiday becasue we reject the myth. And that is all the more reason to secularize the event and make it more friendly to all citizens, the Christ in Christmas is not accepted universally and should be kept to private property and the public square’s commemoration be devoid of religious reference or contex
  
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kcsparky
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:09pm
Silverman is a pinhead!!

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Alisterbane
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:08pm
i love this guy and i bet most leberals do to . but one thing he was saying everyone is (EQUAL) . very well then i agree with him fully. so can we now get ( ALL THE EQUAL ) people to pay the same taxes… so much for (EQUALITY) you facist …i guess everyone is only (EQUAL) when it suits his idiotic ideas .

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semihardrock
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:06pm
Hopefully people understand….but then again….many who just elected a President have NO IDEA.

They are ALL attacking religion….just as they are attacking Israel. The one and ONLY home of the FREE…..Gods freedom as written about 2000 years ago. Just as Moses told his people…..We don’t have to live under the Pharaoh…in slavery. G-d….the Creator of Heaven and Earth and Global Warming AND Climate Change…(not monkeys from Africa aka evolution…OR any other Progressive agenda) will set us free….if you follow his laws…..NOT the US Federal Government of Communism in disguise….who steal your money with every law they pass.

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- reid0018
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:19pm
  I think one thing everyone is over looking is the fact that atheists believe that their’s no God when in fact he admitted their’s a God by saying in “God we don’t trust”, replay the interview and you will see and hear that he admitted God is real.
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:09am
  Lord Jesus, make haste with your return.
  
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The-Monk
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:04pm
I found it funny that when David said he was a patriot he unknowingly used his left finger and thumb to show a meassurment of his patriotism; looked like about an inch and a half. LOL

The frame is at about 4:50. Just too funny what body language people use with out knowing. TFF

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- kalli
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:02am
  LOL! He’s got an inch and a half more patriotism than obama.
  
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- woodrowsux
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 1:02am
  What Dennis Miller said after that segment was a defining moment of where we are in the USA today. The results of the election explain this atheist’s views, Sandra ” Moan of Arc” Fluke and the complete apathy of the American media ( sans Fox News) and public toward the heinous massacre at Benghazi. It is not the economy it’s the electorate stupid! Or in Mr. Miller and my opinion the electorate IS stupid and American Exceptionalism is lost somewhere in Sandra Fluke’s grab-bag, or trapped between her toes.
  
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mavsfan75
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:00pm
I usually agree with Bill, but he looked like a belligerent idiot during this segment. He claimed that Christianity isn’t a religion? I think he’s in the EXTREME minority on this point. It may be a philosophy, but it’s also certainly a religion. He got zinged by Mr. Silverman and his ego couldn’t take it so he got mad and reduced the discussion to petty semantics. I agree to a point with Mr. Silverman, if the Gov was making Ramadan a national holiday and banks were closed and we were forced to celebrate it or at least forcibly partake of it, then there would be an uproar in America. Just because a majority thinks things should be a certain way doesn’t make it the right way. The beauty of America is that it celebrates the rights of the individual, not just the rights of the majority. I have no problem with Christmas, I’m an atheist and it doesn’t offend me in any way, I celebrate St. Paddy’s Day too, yet I’m not Irish, Pictures of Jesus no more offend me than do pictures of Santa Claus. To each his own I say, but do so in peace. Bill just looked like an ass in this segment and he’s better than that.

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- mejjr66
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:13pm
  I concur wholeheartedly, I watch Bill and could not believe how ridiculous his behavior was. Pointing his finger in the face of his guest was over the top.
  
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- jdking
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:06am
  While I agree that Bill was over the top and trying to claim that Christianity isn’t a religion is ridiculous, walking past a Christmas tree or nativity scene is NOT being forced to celebrate or partake in the religious tenants of Christianity. If one believes that Jesus was just a man, then you are walking past remembrance of a man’s birth. The fact that a minority (and I am not including you in this) feel the need to not allow others the opportunity to express their beliefs is in itself troubling. Atheists are having their world view expressed by the State every time they remove any mention of God from the public square.
  
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- wordweaver
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:11am
  I agree as well. I watch The Factor regularly and feel that Bill approaches most stories in a balanced way. This issue was a very emotional one for him, and he got derailed almost from the outset and it went downhill for him from there, culminating with the ad hominem insults. Not his best moment.
  
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- S G Applebee
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 2:31am
  You’re absolutely right. If enough Muslim Americans were able to put “Under Allah” on our currency, O’Reilly would be SCREAMING about it.
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:30am
  I am a person of faith that Jesus is my savior.
  
  I am also an American. The Constitution of my country doesn’t permit a state religion. My religious beliefs and practices shall not be hindered in any way. The Constitution also permits free speech. Both of these freedoms are protective in content. The freedom of speech is there to protect the minority from the majority. If an American chooses to be an atheist, so be it. I will not deny them their beliefs. I just want them not to deny me mine.
  
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ShyLow
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:59pm
I think the bible has a problem with putting up christmas trees

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- welovetheUSA
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:14pm
  Christmas trees have nothing to do with the bible, period.
  
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- nzkiwi
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 1:19am
  We love the USA is correct.
  
  Also, this is a red herring.
  
  I think what is going on here is that socialism is trying to a) gain itself some credibility and b) clear the field of its main opposition – Christian families.
  
  I think that Christians should ignore these atheist non-entities and concentrate on the root cause – socialist activists, the traitors in your midst.
  
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TarheelFlyer
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:55pm
I think the point Oreilly was trying to make was completely overlooked.

It doesn’t matter if the “Christmas” Holiday is religious or not, saying that it must be changed so that government doesn’t support one religion or another, a holiday which most people in the country support is just dumb.

The reality is this, people like this want to force their belief on people and therefore they assume that as Christians we would like to do the same thing. I don’t care if you support the holiday or not, it is up to you, but having a “Christmas” tree doesn’t imply you need to be of a certain religion.

The only thing Methodists and Baptists have in common is that they are both based on the Bible. Much else about what they believe is no where near the same. Maybe he should do a personal study on the sects themselves to discover how different they are.

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liljoe62
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:48pm
The thing is, the atheist WANT to control what the RELIGIOUS can or cant do, but, we are out of line when we tell them NO! So here you go you loons, Celebrate what you want, I dont care! Just DONT try to tell ME what I can celebrate or not! Everyone is happy, now SHUT UP!! PS. this COUNTRY was founded on RELIGIOUS FREEDOM! This is why our money says: IN GOD WE TRUST! If you DONT want to say MERRY CHRISTMAS, FINE! Just dont tell me I CANT! Merry Christmas to ALL, and to ALL good night!

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- mavsfan75
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:06pm
  Joe, you’re misled on this issue, Atheists don’t want to tell people what to believe, we want the US Gov to stop telling US what to believe. That is the distinction. And you’re right this country was founded on religious freedom, but not on an established religion. It states quite specifically this point in the constitution. Also btw, the In God We Trust wasn’t added to the money until 1957, almost 200 years AFTER the constitution was written.
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:34pm
  The sentiment and phrase of “In God We Trust” has been part of America before anyone on earth today was even born.
  
  “…that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom…” – Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address, 1863
  
  “…with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence…” – Declaration of Independence, 1776
  
  “…it would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official act my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the universe, who presides in the councils of nations, and whose providential aids can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States a Government instituted by themselves for these essential purposes, and may enable every instrument employed in its administration to execute with success the functions allotted to his charge. In tendering this homage to the Great Author of every public and private good, I assure myself that it expresses your sentiments not less than my own, nor those of my fellow-citizens at large less than either. No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the Invisible Hand which conducts the affairs of men more than those of the United States…” Washington’s First Inaugural Address, 1789
  
  “…Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven rescued land Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation… And this be our motto – In God is our trust…” Star Spangled Banner, 1814
  
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- DZ-015
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:43pm
  Mavsfan: You are only half right. It was not until 1957 that the phrase “In God We Trust” (officially our national motto since 1966) was added to paper money (bills). It first appeared on the two cent coin in 1864 and was added to our larger gold and silver coins in 1866.
  
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- Wisdom7
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 2:54pm
  “…Atheists don’t want to tell people what to believe, we want the US Gov to stop telling US what to believe”
  
  What exactly is the government telling you to believe? Is there a law somewhere I missed that says you must believe in God, celebrate Christmas, be baptized, or go to Church? Stop being asinine.
  
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JEANNIEMAC
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:46pm
Ever since Obama got into the Oval Office, the atheists, fornicators, adulterers, homosexuals, abortionists and other assorted evil beings have come crawling out of the shadows, and onto our TV programs, movies, etc. They all know the man in the White House has their back, because it fits in with his agenda of destroying our moral fiber and thus, our nation,

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- mejjr66
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:57pm
  Know your history. Muslims want to kill every non-believer. It is mandatory in the Koran. Are they more of a threat than atheists? How can atheists be evil? They have no religious thought whatsoever. At worst, an atheist could be called ignorant, and that would be a stretch.
  
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- nzkiwi
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 1:24am
  I think that American atheists are being used for a political end, and some idiots are going along with it.
  
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Advection
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:36pm
The atheist lost when he claimed the government forbade work on holidays.

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Turin
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:35pm
Two pinheads in a circle jerk. Yawn.

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- tmbell87
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:15pm
  agreed. They’re both idiots.
  
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Patriot Z
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:34pm
American athiest group are all a bunch of pinheads…hell im athiest and i know that.its a christmas tree, get over it and say merry christmas it wont kill anyone..unlike islam

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- angeleyes63
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:40am
  Awesome. From an honest atheist the truth (we are a bunch of pinheads) and it’s only a Christmas Tree get over it. Thanks for the honesty And merry Christmas to you PATRIOT Z.
  
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zigzig22
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:34pm
“The government can’t take sides” I’d love to see him try to say that to O-BOMB

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Major Flynt
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:30pm
Probably would fit right into the Obama cabinet just fine. These people are growing in numbers must be something in the water these crazy libs are drinking it makes no sense. I guess when you don’t have a real job you become the American Atheists President

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- oldguy49
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:34pm
  attack it ……destroy it and replace it with state religion…………or even islam………watch for it -its comming
  
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banjarmon
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:30pm
April FOOLS DAY is the Atheists holiday!!!

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SaturdaysWarrior76
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:28pm
The guy keeps saying “The Government has to not take sides!” And yet… he wants HIS side to be taken? Pfffft give me a break. “The Government has to treat everyone fairly” he says… but he wants to treat Christians unfairly. What a world he must live in…

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Weatherboy
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:27pm
Another freakin Liberal Jew who is trying to screw up our society in the name of “Who knows?”

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- VanceUppercut
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:24am
  Your anti-Semitism is showing.
  
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elsiedinsmore
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:23pm
O’Reilly is too late to the party on this and most subjects. His ego got in the way and in a small way helped to re-elect Obama. His unwillingness to ferret out the truth was a hinderance and we don’t watch him anymore.

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- neverending
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:50pm
  Agree with you and this family doesn’t watch him anymore.
  
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- PrfctlyFrank
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:16pm
  Couldn’t agree more.. O’Reilly is a belligerent bully about half the time even in “friendly,” exchanges.. And he was far far too forgiving of obama for my tastes and still is.. I’m pretty much done..
  
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- ReviveOurNation
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:21pm
  Haven’t watched O’Reilly Factor in a couple of years. Bill lost it a while back and he is too pompous to see it. I can’t believe so many people still watch him.
  
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Thornyrose13
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:20pm
Oy. A christmas tree is NOT a religious symbol. Christmas is the name of the holiday. Yes, it has Christian origins, and pagan origins before that. Let the individuals decide if they want to celebrate the holiday as a religious one or a secular one, and just can all the fighting. I’m tired of the grinches on one side and the pseudo-matyrs on the other.

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gyro
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:20pm
chill its xmas !!!!

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