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‘Welfare Nation’: The Sad Truth

Nov. 28, 2012 4:19pm Becket Adams

Should We Be Concerned About the Expansion of the Welfare State? This Presentation Says Yes

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., Speaker of the House John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., speak to the media at the White House Nov. 16, 2012, in Washington. (Roger Wollenberg/Getty Images)

Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich during the Republican presidential primaries often referred to President Barack Obama as the “food stamp president,” a charge that was met with piercing and outraged cries of “racism!”

“Over here you have a policy which, with Reagan and me as speaker, created millions of jobs — it’s called paychecks. Over here you have the most successful food stamp president in American history, Barack Obama,” Gingrich said.

Supposed “racist dog whistles” aside, it should be noted that Gingrich is not the first person to voice concern over the expansion of our so-called “welfare nation.”

But is this concern warranted? That is, is the growth of the welfare state really something we need to worry about?

Considering the fact that for every 1.65 employed persons in the private sector, one person currently receives welfare assistance and the fact that for every 1.25 employed persons in the private sector, one person currently receives welfare assistance or works for the government, we’d say “yes.”

“[It] is now more lucrative — in the form of actual disposable income — to sit, do nothing, and collect various welfare entitlements, than to work,” Zero Hedge grimly notes.

As the below chart from Gary Alexander, Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, confirms, staying on government welfare has indeed become a lucrative gig for many.

The single mom is “better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045,” Alexander explains.

Now while some may want to avoid this discussion (and others prefer simply to yell “racism!”), facts are facts and the choices are clear: “… either [be] on the left side of minimum US wage, and [rely] on benefits, or move to the right side at far greater personal investment of work, and energy, and … have the same disposable income at the end of the day,” the Hedge notes.

Here’s a chart illustrating the burden welfare places on current taxpayers:

Most troubling is the fact that many in Washington look at the above and say to themselves, “Hey, let’s raise taxes,” instead of, “Hey, maybe we should do something about welfare costs.”

Why is this so troubling?

Because, as mentioned elsewhere on TheBlaze, higher and unreasonable (see France) tax rates usually lead to an exodus of cash and manpower. What do you suppose will happen once burdensome tax rates chase out all the money and high-income earners? The money may leave, but the cost of welfare won’t.

If Washington has its heart set on raising taxes on the wealthy (which it does), that’s one thing. But D.C. has to realize that it must also address entitlement reform — or else things are about to become a whole lot more unsustainable.

Bottom Line: Again, just to be clear, for every 1.65 employed persons in the private sector, one person receives welfare assistance. For every 1.25 employed persons in the private sector, one person receives welfare assistance or works for the government.

There are 110 million privately employed workers and 88 million welfare recipients and government workers. The former’s numbers are shrinking while the latter’s are growing.

Here’s Alexander’s full presentation:

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Comments (194)

nighttrainno9
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:37pm
Like everyone else I’m considering not filing taxes for 2013 or beyond
if this situation is not fixed. I’m tired of the parasites sitting on their
butts while I work mine off to support them. Work or starve.

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- db321
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 7:20pm
  There is no Truth here – We must not be able to handle the truth. Tell me when Glenn, his Staff, or any Conservative Talk Show Host has ever told us any of the following:
  
  How much does it cost Annually to send out “JUST ONE” Welfare Recipients Checks – Answer $80,000 per Recipient – you know Welfare recipients do not receive that much.
  
  How Many Obama Phones did Obama give out – Who Knows – I can’t find one Conservative in Congress or one the air to tell me. I heard one figure that it was 10 Million Obama Phones.
  
  $10 Million Obama Phones X “How the F$ck Much per month does it cost American tax payers” $20 Dollars, $30 Dollar each per month. Who knows. My guess $200 per phone per month.
  
  Where is Reagan – he would have told us.
  
  How many Executive Orders has Obama signed in office – I heard that it cost $200 Million to implement just one Executive order – I DON’T KNOW – Cant find a single so called Conservative to tell me – Oh I wish Reagan was here. He did the work Conservative Talk Show and Politicians don’t do today.
  
  Reagan never demonized the Recipients of Welfare – he Demonized the Govt Waste that implement it. That is how you win an Election.
  
  Conservatives Talk Show hosts love to use the words “Welfare Reform” but they don’t even know what it means – I will Never Ever vote for a Politician that wants to cut one penny from a Recipient. But I will kiss his b$tt on Broadway if he will go after the Waste in Government and expose it. Wow W
  
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- lani59
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 7:38pm
  Why in the heck am I working? I’m such an idiot. After working 40yrs, it’s time to get myself on the dole, cause if ya can’t beat em, join em!
  
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- Shamrock241
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 7:46pm
  Don’t be a Martyr if you get 30 million to join you so will i and we can win,but alone they will cut you down and the rest of us will be here reading your story and posting comments like lock and load or guns and gold,sad but true.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 8:57pm
  Blacks, Hispanics, and women… the moochers.
  
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- marssnw
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:07pm
  The Jerk, you are slightly retarded. There are also white men on welfare. You lefties always want to make it about race and the so called oppression of women. You are totally brainwashed and lack any common sense. You should get some new lefty talking points , because the race card and the attack on women is getting old. How does that old saying go? You tell a lie long enough you start to believe it. I think you are actually starting to believe the nonsense you spew.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:20pm
  This is nonsense. For any of you who really believe it’s not, quit your job and give it a try.
  
  You won’t though, not because of your work ethic, but because you know somewhere in that brain of yours that there is no way you could pay your mortgage or rent on government benefits and feed yourself and you family on food stamps. You know that’s a lie.
  
  There may be more people receiving government assistance since the Great Depression. That’s probably true given that after seven years of the Bush administration, two unpaid for wars, unpaid for prescription benefits, tax cuts that ballooned the deficit and deregulation, the economy collapsed and the US saw the second worst contraction in the economy in American history. Since the US economy collapsed over a year before President Obama was sworn into office, you ought to question your belief that Obama caused it or that more tax cut for the rich will improve the situation given that the Bush tax did absolutely nothing to improve the economy.
  
  And, somebody help me, what does that graph above mean and how can you have a higher net income than gross income?
  
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- SgtB
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:14pm
  @ Sendthemeteors, I would be glad to tell you how you have a higher gross income than a net income. First off, your “gross” income is how much you earn in a given year. For a welfare recipient making $15,000 per year, their “gross” income would be $15,000. Now follow me here, I think this is where you are getting tripped up. “Net” income is that income that you are left with after ALL adjustments have been made. For us actually paying taxes, these adjustments are negative and the gov’t steals our money right out of our paychecks at the point of a gun. However, for a welfare recipient, these adjustments are in the positive and include such things as “free” medical care (god I wish we would do away with the word “free” in our language because NOTHING IS FREE!), food stamps, and things such as tuition assistance and subsidized housing costs.
  
  Now, to address your more overarching topic… How is it that you really think we are on the right path when our government robs from one group of people and gives that ill-gotten gain to others? Only racists, keynesians, and eugenicists (which is just a slightly different type of racist) would ever think that it is fine to do such a thing. Oh, and thieves. Thieve have no problem with this either. You see, when you are charitable with your own money, you are committing a good deed. When you voluntell others at the point of a gun to be charitable, you are deserving of a bullet to the temple.
  
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- ToddH
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 2:18am
  Yes, let’s cut off all of the govt. assistance programs and then the nonexistent jobs will suddenly appear. What do you guys think “recession” means and what exactly do you propose we do to end it? The welfare problem was not here when Bush was in office because we were experiencing an economic bubble that quickly burst.
  Right now we are exporting jobs while at the same time importing people, usually in the form of mass immigration. We can not handle more people & fewer jobs at the same time.
  End NAFTA and GATT and keep American coporations frome exporting all of our jobs just so they can pay some workers in India or China a dollar per day when U.S. minimum wage would require they pay a legal American so much more.
  This isn’t rocket science. We need to keep the jobs here, keep all the new people trying to get in OUT, stop exporting all of our jobs while also cutting govt. aid.
  Don’t feel sorry for a single U.S. billionaire bc his long held tax cuts will run out. Most of them hire illegals or build factories overseas, paying a buck per day to each foreign slave they own, to get to where they are.
  Glenn, I just defended you on another article but this is nonsense. I don’t defend the rich CEOs of a starving country drowning in massive debt as they keep on hiring their slaves overseas. I don’t like communism, which is where our nation is clearly headed, but this idea of a “free global market” means every hard-won employee safeguard is thrown out the window.
  
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- ToddH
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 2:24am
  NAFTA and GATT were both introduced during the Clinton presidency, and also written into law then. Not a single Republican has ever even suggested ending it, even now after this very liberal idea of mass global trade has destroyed our country.
  Bush cut taxes to the top 1% of “earners” (foreign factory slave owners) at the same time he declared 2 extremely expensive wars which included the cost of building up Iraq after discovering no weapons of mass destruction.
  Go ahead and scream at all your lazy millenial children and grandchildren to “get a job!” but don’t be surprised as they continue to whine “there aren’t any!” because guess what: there aren’t any.
  We need to stop all new immigration in it’s tracks and tell corporate owners that they have to hire all of their workers in the same country they build their business. Let them sell in India if they want to hire India. Let them sell in China if they want to hire China. I only buy American. So should you.
  
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- Stuck_in_CA
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 4:42am
  It’s Official: Obama Voter Fraud Reason for “Reelection”/growing Totalitarian Government
  http://www.webcommentary.com/php/ShowArticle.php?id=zieves&date=121126
  
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- Stuck_in_CA
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 4:46am
  Suspicious Voting Machines Subject of FBI Investigation
  http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/11/suspicious-voting-machines-subject-of-fbi-investigation/
  
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- November29
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 5:37am
  The welfare roles are only going to grow even more in the next four years. Read fresh political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
  
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- Ayla_me
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 6:56am
  More money has been spent on things such as bail-outs and foreign aid, than this. We need to go over the entire government spending with a fine tooth comb and cut out anything that isn’t necessary for defense of our nation, and basic government needs. First, they ought to cut the paychecks of those in Washington, as they are not doing their jobs. Put them all on minimum wage; I doubt they would be affected as much as one thinks. They already recieve free housing, free transportation, free meals, free med benefits, etc, etc, etc. They also take more vacation time than any private sector job would allow. The whole debt is a design to bankrupt the USA. All of the bail-outs and waste is appalling and sickening! Making people work, is but a small step in the right direction. We ought to be teaching entrepeuneral skills or trade skills, beginning in middle school.
  
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- Luckywon
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 7:43am
  Todd, I used to only buy American. I no longer do. I will only buy red state, or overseas. My goal is to cost as many liberal Americans their jobs as possible.
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:11am
  Yeah. I’m getting sick of floating the boat too. Maybe it’s my turn to coast now.
  
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- Annuit Coeptis
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:22am
  @DB321: Start a website. Be that Conservative. I’ll visit. Then, you wouldn’t have as much time to gripe about how no one is conservative enough… :^/
  
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- modsquad
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 3:01pm
  “Todd, I used to only buy American. I no longer do. I will only buy red state, or overseas. My goal is to cost as many liberal Americans their jobs as possible.”
  
  Ditto. My list of “won’t purchase from” companies and products is quite extensive and I plan on sticking to it as best I can – my end goal identical to yours. Now LUCKYWON if only more like us did likewise could you imagine the damage we could effectively rid this hound of it’s parasites…
  
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elosogrande
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:35pm
The four buffoons in the photo are directly responsible for the condition of our country. These mindless dolts are going to solve our problems? That’s a lot of malarky.

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- Gold Coin & Economic News
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:53pm
  With the rise of the welfare state and Obama in the WH for the next 4 years we are looking at a disaster in the making in 2 to 4 years:
  http://www.isthatbaloney.com/11-reasons-the-next-2-to-4-years-spell-out-a-horrible-future-for-america/
  
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RaydocX
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:24pm
Barack Obama, 47 percenter promoter.

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- Goodforall
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 12:42pm
  You have that exactly right! Way too many living off the backs of taxpayers. We need to cut assistance to a minimum-then those people would go to work. There are jobs out there for people who want them. Why should they when the government gives them a better life style than those who work? The Country has become a welfare state, plain and simple.
  
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txannie
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:22pm
It IS a sad truth.

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tifosa
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:19pm
Just an interesting tidbit: states which take more in govt entitlements than they pay in are ….wait for it…. red. Our Republican socialists. YOU are the 47%. By no coincidence, guess what Mitt’s voter take-away was, yep, 47.5% :)
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/where-do-the-47-percent-live/

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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:31pm
  It’s guaranteed. Rich people, for ex. C.E.Os, send jobs overseas to increase profits, shrinking our job markets. Unemployed are forced to rely on the govt. for help. Repubs want to shrink that help, and give more tax breaks to the already wealthy.
  
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- CanadaRocks
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:58pm
  You dont really think blaze conservatives will believe the facts on this one do you? And no matter how strong the truth may be…. It is obamas fault those red states are the biggest takers.
  
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- MDECKER
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 6:13pm
  The “One”, won. Here on out, it is his baby, and anyone else who chooses to go along with his experiment. It is no longer G.W., R.R., or Mitt, it’s all BHO.
  
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- tifosa
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 6:14pm
  hahaha Canadian! Except that this dates back pre-Obama: 2004, 8/10 of the biggest taker-states were bright red :)
  http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html
  
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- socialism.rocks
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 6:23pm
  tifa thats not even half of it…. the red-state get all the government -contracts ..which arent even counted in as welfare…. austerity-is coming and its not going to bother-blue states in the slightest
  
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- Shamrock241
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 7:58pm
  @Exrepublsheep now ask yourself what could our government do to make our corporations want manufacture their products here Hummmmm it’s a tuffy for you isn’t it Libby.
  
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- Lord_Frostwind
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 8:08pm
  You can say that they take a disproportionate amount of money, but blue states often receive considerable federal funds and still manage to bury themselves in 100 billion dollar debt. Take California, funds and economic stimulus from multiple military bases, funding for prisons, funding for highways, funding for a number of corporations, and still in the economic crapper. Say the reds take more, but at least we use it better. Feds give money for a lot of things, and the austerity measures will hit everybody. I’d be more worried about the college students, they aren’t ready for what comes after that.
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 8:47pm
  Yet it’s CA who has the greatest percentage of welfare recipients with over 1/3 living there yet they have only 12% of the nation’s population, LOL.
  
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- CWPrequired
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 9:21pm
  @Tif…so what you are saying is, the democrats getting all the welfare in the red states are too lazy to get off their azz to vote and change it to a blue state.
  
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- Twobyfour
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 1:21am
  Actually the fed assistance includes also transfers for tribes and in some red states there is a sizable tribal presence.. Now Tifosa, are you calling injuns moochers? You racist!
  
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tckid17
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:10pm
Mitt was wrong by 4 percent, the same margin of victory for the “Food Stamp President”.

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hauschild
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:08pm
It’s not rocket science. This is what happens when you think you’re being “compassionate” to bottom-feeding, worthless bastards – their wants and unwillingness to produce knows absolutely no ends. Their numbers then exponentially grow.

It’s too late now to do anything about. The path with least amount of “long-term” pain would be cold turkey, massive cuts to ALL entitlement programs and I mean EVERY SINGLE SOCIAL SPENDING PROGRAM.

But, this would never happen because everybody has their own pet entitlement project depending on who your employer is, or how old or how microscopically disabled you are.

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- socialism.rocks
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 6:21pm
  the middle-class take a hundred times more in services then they pay in taxes…cut all entitlements defense..only military…lets see how that flys..end all those red-state government contracts and farm subsidies internet subsidies..electric subsidies.. road subsidies…there would be a wasteland in red-states…
  
  i am all for cutting all entitlements we dont even need a standing army with 12000 nukes… no nation would dare invade us….
  
  let the rich pay for their own asset protection
  
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- Salamander
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 6:25pm
  I agree, but let’s not forget that I paid 15% of my gross earnings into the Social Security system for the past 60 years! If it’s broke, fix it! But don’t just help yourself to a lifetime’s contributions by lumping it in with every progressive, do-gooder, vote-getter program those idiots in Washington ‘bestow’ on us (with OUR money)! (And, Ted Kennedy was THE WORST!)
  
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- JediKnight
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 7:33pm
  @Salamander: That is why this **** will never get fixed. I’ve been paying into SS for a while now too, but I do not give a **** about it anymore. It needs to stop. It needs to end. Now! If we keep saying “Yeah, cut all that stuff, but keep this one here for me”, then nothing will ever be changed because everyone has some entitlement that they want kept.
  
  If it’s not in the Constitution, end it.
  
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- Al J Zira
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:48pm
  Socialism Sucks: you really have no clue what you’re talking about. No standing army? Are you serious? All because we have nukes. That’s really funny coming from the side that always wants to trim the nuclear stockpile to zero through UN treaties.
  
  That has to be the most asinine statement I’ve ever read on this site.
  
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Betty_Rose
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:06pm
Is there *anyone* (with an IQ over 80) who thinks that this is sustainable?

Ah, but that’s the rub. Apparently every FOOL that voted for Obama can not pass a basic math test because simple math shows that we can not keep taxing (penalizing) the workers and paying (rewarding) the parasites, and expect this to END WELL.

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- BHOHG2G
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 7:18pm
  They’re all about immediate gratification. Have fun today. Screw tomorrow.
  
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- Lord_Frostwind
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 8:32pm
  “But, but all we have to do is raise taxes on the rich, that will solve everything!”
  
  See, this is what happens when you do a crap job of teaching math at school! Either that or they realize it’s all coming down, so why not go out on the Kobe Beef and lobster tail before the bill comes due.
  
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- mercenary4freedom
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 8:35pm
  You mean like, DORA GLASBERG & SOCIALISTROCKER?
  
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- DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:14pm
  By parasites do you mean me? Cuz I paid max in for the last 37 years & I feel like I have paid for my SSA benefit unlike thoseeople who didn’t pay for their SSI benefit which comes from the same fund. That’s right many people paid for their SS benefit but thanks to Kennedy many people who didn’t pay get the same benefit. It’s hidden welfare along those “redistribution” guidelines. But they don’t tell you that.
  
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charles116
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:05pm
Just as soon as the ‘job creators’ create jobs everything will be fixed.
Do you realize that between 2000 and 2012, job creator, Mitt Romney DID NOTHING
but seek the presidency?

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- Trail_Jumper
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:15pm
  I blame that on Bush. Oh yeah. It’s Bush’s fault.
  
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- Psychosis
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:16pm
  while doing ” nothing” he still employed and created more jobs than obama has his entire life
  
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- FISH_BONE
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:19pm
  Thank you for that completely non relevant comment, DORA.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:25pm
  Hi Dora,
  
  What is the White House saying about Romney now?
  
  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/white-house-now-says-romney-was-obviously-a-successful-businessman/
  
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- Chrison
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:46pm
  And your point would be???
  
  First, even if “all Mitt Romney was doing” was running for President, by doing so he CREATED JOBS by having a campaign organization. Yes, they were temporary jobs, but they were jobs nonetheless!
  
  Second, how the heck do you think the job creators are going to start creating jobs when:
  
  1. They’re being taxed to death, with more taxes on the way, and
  
  2. They’re being regulated out of business, with more regulations on the way?
  
  Money is a lot like water… it will flow following the path of least resistance. If taxes are raised, and regulations are increased, then people shouldn’t be surprised if the “job creators” take their money ELSEWHERE instead of investing it in the United States!
  
  It’s so obvious and simple! And, yet, the Administration INSISTS on demonizing and punishing the job creators!
  
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- westtitus
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 6:21pm
  At least the guy has had a JOB in his life! Obama has done nothing and I mean absolutely NOTHING in his useless life.
  
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- Brooke Lorren
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 6:38pm
  That’s amazing how Mitt Romney did nothing between 2000 and 2012, yet people insist on saying that he was in charge of the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics. I wonder who was actually in charge of the Olympics and doing the work, and why they would be willing to give Mitt Romney the credit for it?
  
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- BHOHG2G
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 7:17pm
  And 0 did what?
  
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- Shasta
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 7:28pm
  Seeking re-election is almost all OBlamo has done since winning the presidency the first time. However, the campaigner-in-chief does have quite a bit of time left over for golf.
  
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- FISH_BONE
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 7:31pm
  What “O” did:
  1. Smoke pot
  2. Hang out with domestic terrorists
  3. “Write” two fictional autobiographies
  4. Smoke more pot
  5. Community organize(?)
  6. Puff poles at the bathhouse
  7. Study up on Marshall Davis, Saul Alinsky, etc…
  8. Smoke even more pot
  9. Play where’s Waldo (or where’s my daddy) in Kenya
  10. Arrange for the murder of his closest male “friends” in Chicago
  
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- mercenary4freedom
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 8:44pm
  Hahahaha, I like that one FISHBONE, that 1 thru 10 list looks pretty accurate, lol. obama is a useless slug of a boy.
  
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- Brooks
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 2:58pm
  The four idiots in the picture are the primary cause of our economic dilemma. They are not “stupid” – in fact, they are very smart. Look at how they tame the masses of idiots with just their senseless words! Its really incredible. Boehner is a RINO and a spineless idiot just like the dems, not that I am either party (especially since they are both hellbent on sinking our country). I often wonder what, exactly, do they think they stand to gain by collapsing America? What have they been promised? They can’t possibly believe they are superior in their thoughts and actions, could they???
  
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INTOODEEP
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:01pm
It;s legal to go tax exempt. It’s my $$$ and I refuse to feed the gimmes…!!!

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- westtitus
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 6:25pm
  I agree, everyone should do this until they get their act together. That could be a long time but it would wake the takers up so maybe they would realize were the money comes from in the first place! It is legal, just go to your Human resources dept. and change your tax form. Went to Walmart last night and everyone there was using foodstamps and dressed like they were rich and all had a really nice phone, not the Obama phone but a really nice one. Thou shalt not COVET, does no one on this planet know what this means!
  
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- BHOHG2G
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 7:24pm
  Yeah just try it. I went tax exempt for a year in 2008 during a divorce which left me broke. I had to take out a loan against my 401k to pay it back plus more for not at least paying quarterly. I wasn’t even trying to dodge paying taxes, just buying time to get things sorted out in my life. ….. I’ll have the loan paid off this Feb. If I wouldn’t have taken the loan, the IRS would have nailed my jazz but good.
  
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INTOODEEP
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:58pm
Tax Revolt ! I’m going tax exempt on my payroll taxes Jan. 01, If everyone would join in we could starve them all out very quickly…

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FISH_BONE
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:54pm
Its all part of the plan folks. And it is working very nicely for the Kenyan POS. He has Amerika by the go-nads and he’s squeezing tighter and tighter.

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- bava
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 6:03pm
  Spelling America with a K. WOW..that is soooo cool. Stay original and cutting edge. AmeriKa needs you.
  
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- FISH_BONE
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 7:19pm
  Hi BAVA. Thanks for the kind words.
  
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Isis79
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:52pm
The real problem lies within the picture posted above this article, career politicians. Term limits for all should be a easy solution but you see how our employees have become richer than us, their employers. I find it funny if not sad that everyone is so concerned about this mythical fiscal cliff while this country is $16,000,000,000,000 trillion in debt and no one wants to talk about that. America is going to fall between now and 2016, that is fact.

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AllLost
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:48pm
So the crash of the US and most of the western world is now inevitable because we refused to be adults.

My Question: Where can a middle income family flee to find freedom and the ability to prosper? I begin to feel like a middle class German Jewish man in 1929 Germany. I know it will get very bad, but where and how do I escape the pain?

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- ResistSocialism
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:56pm
  you don’t
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:59pm
  Blacks, Hispanics, and women, are the moochers who elected the looters. I don’t see any way out, other than violence.
  
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- Trail_Jumper
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:01pm
  Lost,
  
  Try the moving to one of the states the left calls “flyover states” (Utah, Nebraska, etc). Good hardworking people that are honest. Governments that are (fairly) responsible, police that believe in justice as well as the law. Neighbors you can rely on and trust. Businesses are moving there for a reason. That would be my advice, for what it’s worth……
  
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- txs_sxs
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:54pm
  Reality is that there is no place to go. Now, if Agenda 21 is implemented in full, you won’t have to worry because the government will control you in total or will eliminate your pain (the hard way, unfortunately).
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 11:48pm
  Jihad jerk
  You off the Jew kick or just rounding out the nazi cv?
  
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JeffersonsPen
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:48pm
I’m not one for unprevoked violance……………..but, Ole Harry just looks like he needs the shiat slapped out of him!

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- FISH_BONE
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:55pm
  I’ll do it.
  
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:46pm
So, 1.65 people are suckers and are slaving for the 1 blessed person who is being a free spririt and exploring their soul, chasing their dreams. “Now that we have healthcare, people can quit their jobs, take time for themselves, learn art, and do what they want to.” – Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House.

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SUMTHINSTINKS
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:46pm
It’s too bad we didn’t get to see Obama Newtered! Those would’ve been some REALLY GOOD Debates!!!

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- FISH_BONE
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:56pm
  Good debates do not overcome stupidity and fraud.
  
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Mowrite
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:45pm
Hmm . . . no wonder America is going no where but down. The government is making it too easy for people not to care about our future. It’s no wonder people won’t stand up to the government over a welfare nation or at a local level to reform laws. I mean, look at what’s going on in Washington.

http://www.enumclaw.com/articles/false-accusations-of-rape-and-hugging-in-washington-state/

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Ironmaan
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:43pm
I must admit. I am getting tired and becoming angry. The system is broken and the sooner it collapses the better. If I get laid off I will collect every dime that I can. I am sick of feeding the beast with my tax dollars as well as those that refuse to support their own existence. Yes we should help those in need but most people aren’t in need, they are in “want” and they ate lazy or too prideful to take a job they consider beneath them. So… I’m done.

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- Betty_Rose
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:03pm
  My friend says, “Crash it hard and crash it now.”
  
  The sooner the stuff hits, the faster we can start to rebuild, sans leeches.
  
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- moreteaplease
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 5:07pm
  I hate to admit it but I am beginning to think the same way but I am going to keep on being self supporting as long as employment is still available. I have dodged 3 rounds of layoffs over the last 4 years but I feel that my luck is going to run out soon. ( I am tired of waking up nervous and going to bed feeling the same way.) They say when you hit bottom you have nowhere to go but up. Maybe that’s what it’s going to take for this country.
  
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- Ricardvs
  Posted on November 29, 2012 at 4:27pm
  The thing is , the feebs collect taxs on unemployment .
  Nevamind that you, your previous employer and the state, have already contributed to the system out of your pay….
  
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19RANDY59
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:43pm
The gov. is competing with me, for my employees. NATION OF FOOLS

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H.I.Mcdunnough
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:41pm
People aren’t ashamed to be on welfare anymore. I know I used to hate it when my grandmother sent me to the store with a book of food coupons. They need to not make it so lucrative to be on government benefits, people get waaaay more than they actually need. It should only be enough to keep you alive not to live comfortably. They also need to make it not so easy to scam the system. I have a friend that works in the welfare office and she tells me all the time how easy it is to scam because the workers don’t hardly check or verify anything.

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MN NICE
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:36pm
Hmmm. It looks as if Nancy Piglosi is making a bigger effort to stay ‘in touch’ with her constituents… Instead of spending her wealth on high fashion, she’s having her jackets made from discarded curtains…

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- moreteaplease
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:58pm
  Doesn’t look like she’s able to pull it off as good as Scarlet O’Hara did.
  
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moreteaplease
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:34pm
The gravy train doesn’t roll on forever. The line has to end at some point.

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Trail_Jumper
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:26pm
We should take care of the sick, the helpless, those unable to work. We need government workers too. What we don’t need is able bodied people freeloading off the system and countless layers of bureaucracy.

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- DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 10:31pm
  We don’t need govt workers. They have become power hungry cheaters who will grab private info to hurt innocents!
  
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skippy6
Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:23pm
That’s what 62,000,000 idiots get…..Good luck when it dries up you fools!!!!!

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- SocialistSlayer
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:35pm
  It’s going to be interesting when they find out there’s no more money left to give them !
  
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- Chromo200
  Posted on November 28, 2012 at 4:40pm
  Good point Skippy, but we are told that taxing the rich will take of this .. These Obamazombies believe that there is an unlimited money available.
  
  I wish this type of news would get to the 18 -40 year old’s that believe the socialist way is the way and realize that people won’t work when Santa is town.
  
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