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Noted libertarians and former presidential candidate Gary Johnson during an interview with Current TV’s Cenk Uygur praised Colorado for its landmark decision to legalize marijuana.
“Colorado legalized pot — do you believe it? I do. I think it’s going to change the world. This is the first state that has outright legalized marijuana,” said Johnson.
“The world’s going to be a better place when the police go out and enforce real crime, and victimless, nonviolent criminals maybe get out of jail,” he added.
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KyleD
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:23pmWhat a ridiculous claim. Nationwide there aren’t even 50000 people imprisoned for marijuana related crimes, this includes driving under the influence, which is still illegal.
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Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:30pmI’m not sure it will change the world, but it will take a lot of much needed resource away from going after people who aren’t doing any real crimes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfCCUd8mFtg
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:33pmcan anyone explain why this article is far below older articles with far less posts? Why is this article below yesterday’s fake “half-naked” article?
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pdw
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:43pmThey already have MJ stores so it will not do anything except increase sales. Sad when our lack of morals become law. But I was once told that the morals of a country are what get these laws passed.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:07amso let me get this straight……
You folks think it is a good idea for the states to secede from a tyrannical federal government – but you do not think it is a good idea for a state to make policy on an issue that is not authorized in the federal Constitution???
What do you call that…..Incoherence? Hypocrisy? Small-mindedness?
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:24amwatch out – autistic kicker boy just moved up 6 article spots ahead of this one, despite being hours older and 1/3 as many posts
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DIgnified
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 1:11amCurrent us inmate population is 700k-800k. About 1/7-1/8 are there for marijuana related offenses. That’s over 50k. Second, arent republicans all about ‘States rights’? They aren’t participating in your law. Bunch of bsing hypocrites.
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sillyfreshness
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 3:25amActually he’s right. Pot and other drugs were legal throughout the world until the Harrison Act of 1914. As soon as the US criminalized drugs, the entire world immediately followed. I never understood how literally the entire world followed suit to satisfy the US. Places in South America and the Caribbean which used pot as part of their culture for centuries all of a sudden made it illegal. So yes, once the US decriminalizes it, the rest of the world would follow. I don’t smoke it, but know lots of people who do and I don’t see any reason not to let these folks have their pot to make them happy. It’s not a gateway drug and is less deadly as alcohol.
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DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 7:28amSOYBOMB315_II – I don’t have a problem with legalizing pot…if someone can figure out how to keep it out of the workplace and off the highways. The thought of stoned truckers barreling down I-30 bothers me. Drug testing is not up to the task.
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TheDavidKing
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 7:31amOh no!!!!! They’ve legalized marijuana!!
Don’t they know that stuff is evil??
For starters, it doesn’t cause hangovers??
It doesn’t cause black outs??
Followed by uncontrolled violence??
It makes you feel like doing something creative??
It makes them darn cancer patients feel like eating??
It’s all natural & easy to grow, so it’s hard to tax??
If it’s legal the drug lords can’t sell it to by guns??
The police depts need those doors to bust down…
so they can destroy the lives of everyone inside…
that includes possibley serveral children living inside…
or they can’t collect on federal cash for annual quotas??
And what about anti weed campaigning and advertising…
all those hundreds of millions of dollars over the years??
And employers love prying into the personal lives…
of employees by pop testing and firing them for something…
that happened one time up to four weeks prior…
on there own time? How dare peeps get weekends!
I could go on all day about how terrible this evil is!
We should create new laws that prohibit people from voting!
We should keep people from smiling ever again!
We should outlaw things like sex, and dancing!
We need cameras in every room of every house to enforce!
We have to put a stop to any sort of freedoms of choice…
cause people don’t choose like I want them too!
Religion doesn’t always cause segregation!
The Earth should never be treated like the creator of life!
What is wrong with all u’s crazies??
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jcldwl
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 7:59am@ soybomb
They move them based on views and that is it. So quit whining that they don’t think your precious legalized pot story is important. Again in case you have trouble grasping it. They put articles at the top based on viewership of the articles.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 8:33am@jcldwl
Yes, that is my point
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FMJGunny
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 9:36amKYLED,
Actually there are over 2.2 million people in jail. With well over 2 million of them for DRUG CRIMES.
Guess what? 78% of them are for possession of marijuans – that’s well over 1.5 million people in jail for possession of marijuana.
Average cost per inmate? $30,000 – so we imprison 1.5 million people at a cost of 45 BILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR. In NYC, they have a law that cops can make ANYONE turn out their pockets at any time. Guess who gets arrested? Minorities – to the tune of one ever 35 seconds.
Your facts are WOEFULLY INCORRECT. This is a simple way for the police state to stay in business. Gary Johnson is correct in one sense. It would be nice if the police could actually work on actual crime.
Instead of using drugs as a way to keep ‘da darkies’ in line – Same with our gun control laws. BOTH were put in place to keep minorities in line. And the white people in charge.
Should we have a prohibition on alcohol again? And put anyone who drinks into jail? That what USED to happen. How about stop lying to yourself. Live, learn – READ THE TRUTH.
http://www.jackherer.com/thebook/
I know I’m wasting my time, but you should read the truth about marijuana.
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00100111
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 9:43amWhile I wouldn’t partake in it, I see no problem with it being legalized. I think it should be left at the state level, not the federal level. Get rid of this “war on drugs” crap. There was a time when just about all drugs were legal until the progressive temperance movement came along and started banning things. The “war on drugs” is the reason for the violence and crime, not MJ. Let police focus on real crimes, not on people who like to toke up every now and then. Yes, keep it out of the workplace and off roads, but it’s already illegal to DUI, and I can’t think of any company that’s ok with showing up drunk. Anyone smoking weed isn’t going to be on the road anyway, exerting physical effort is the last thing you want to do when you’re stoned. For the workplace, leave it up to the workplace to make their own decisions.
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SimpleTruths
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:26amPDW
Smoking pot is immoral but drinking alcohol is ok?
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4truth2all
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:44pm” There are ways that seem right to a man
but in the end lead to destruction/death.”
Reminds me of some science fiction movie where people are injected with a cure all drug/virus. But they overlook one small detail, and after 2 years they ALL start to die.
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scarebear83
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 3:25pmFor those of you advocating for legalization of pot, I recommend watching Steven Crowder’s video, it’ll make you think.
http://youtu.be/Dv4x2pRMamE
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GETLIFE
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 4:26pmSCAREBEAR, I was just about to make the same suggestion.
Crowder’s video is definitely worth watching– entertaining too, as all of his videos are.
Plus, then you know who here is informed and who is not.
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obamapoop
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 6:17amPeople are not necessarily in prison because of pot, but check all the arrest dockets in the US and your numbers would grow exponentially. Its a misdemeanor arrest and happens very often. It also provides probable cause for all other kinds of arrest during discovery. For instance, I smell pot when I pull you over for speeding and then I can search your car and find the legally owned but illegally concealed weapon in your car, now you have a felony etc.
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G-WHIZ
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:18amWhen anything becomes “legal” the intrest in it subsides quickly…It’s legal-now…let’s go do something more-fun(illegal)!!
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Max jones
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 3:16pmSoybomb….As usual your conciousness is dedicated to absurdities……..
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Balzy
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 11:44amCan anyone prove to me why it is such a bad thing? seriously guys, you can’t say a pothead is anything like an alcoholic. not even close, i know alcoholics and they’re very troubled people most of the time. it’s just too different. you know how much i wished the alcoholics in my life had just smoked weed? it would’ve been a blessing. THEY’RE JUST SMOKING SOMETHING, get the hell over yourselves! libs are just as against it as repubs so don’t give me any of that, what they need is to be TRAINED in the constitution. obviously they can’t be trusted to just read things without misinterpreting what it means anymore. Some person a while back was giving me this sob story about how her dad was a pothead and just smoked all the time and didn’t spend enough time for her, i was like i’m sry… but let me tell you about someone in my life that was a full on alci, then i told her about people i knew who did other drugs. these stories were somewhat an awakening to her cause she valued my opinion, she knew at that point in time that it could’ve been WAY WORSE. I’m not saying you have to agree with it, but open your eyes people. go hang out with a bunch of stoners before you start judging their lifestyle. most of you have NO idea what you’re talking about or you just expect others to live a certain way, who cares how they want to live as long as they aren’t hurting others. It’s not like they’re encroaching on YOUR freedom, so **** out.
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DougHuffman
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:10pmMarijuana difference? Why are Third World countries third world? How many tolerate cannabis intoxication? How many First World countries tolerate cannabis intoxication by tradition and culture?
Milk was a gateway drug, pot is a gateway drug, who sees through the gate?
Good people ought to be armed as they will, with wits and Guns and the Truth. God Bless Bitter Clingers, damn progs.
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DIgnified
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 1:18amThe world will be better off without you and your generation. Clocks winding down, old-timer. You followed to blindly and didn’t ask any difficult questions, like ‘why did the author of the federal reserve act, republican and us CEO, bankroll Hitler, and send us troops to fight who we were aiding?’ You would have arrived at the ‘to make money on both sides and create national slave debt’ long ago. Your generation didn’t drop the ball, you never touched it. Move along. Let those who learned from your huge mistakes go on to successes and failures of our own.
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DIR
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 2:05am@DIGNIFIED
Wow, are you full of crap! You call yourself ‘Dignified’, so show some manners and respect. You think you have all the answers. I’ve been reading your crap and you don’t have a clue. Your comments (argument or whatever they are) are so full of holes they could qualify as swiss cheese, but so nutty, plus they stink, they have to be crap. You come off as a sanctamonious left wing doofus. I’ll take, as you call him, the ‘old timer’s'; comments to yours any day. Just sayin.
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jcldwl
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 8:06amActually Dougie the first gateway drug would probably be caffeine, then I would say nicotine followed shortly by alcohol. There is nothing gateway about marijuana. Legalized stimulants and intoxicants lead the way on that. And since they tend to run in the order I listed we have all stepped through the gateway long before trying or being tempted to try marijuana.
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00100111
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 9:50amThe only reason marijuana is labeled a “gateway drug” is “experts” keep telling people “It’s bad! It’s bad! It’ll ruin your life.” Then people try it and see that it’s really nothing, and think “Well, either they lied or were wrong about it, so they’re probably lying or wrong about the others too.” They try the other harder ones and then things do get messed up. “They” just need to stop the propaganda that MJ is this horrible horrible thing. It’s not, but telling people it is then people find out it’s not, they don’t believe you about the rest of them either. Legalize it, regulate it, tax it.
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Max jones
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 3:53pmDIGNIFIED….Ask yourself why YOUR generation has backed a globalist- socialist for president. Ask yourself why your real freedoms are eroding daily. Is this what you want? I’m not republican nor democrat, but neither am I supportive of communistic world government. I can’t believe that you could be either.
Your comments about the BIG HEIST by the FED and its cronies are justified, but who knew about that? It seems to me that Bah Rahk is still working with these globalist criminals. The biggest scariest one of them is Soros, and his captive media are Bah Rahk’s biggest allies in this political usurpation of our constitutional rights.
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Max jones
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 4:13pmPersonal responsibility is the issue. If we as a nation could take responsibility for what we do, every one of us, all social problems would become manageable. I’m not in total control myself, and I know where my own irresponsibility has damaged me and my family. So I am commenting from experience.
I want to see the cartels defeated, and allowing pot users to legally ‘grow their own’ would go a long way in that cause. It would also make coke harder to smuggle, as the same routes are used for weed.
This could be a win-win situation, except for what weed does to young people who virtually lose all desire for education once they start to toke. But considering what our liberal education system does to them, that might be OK, too.
Bah Rahks people won’t like legalization due to the fact it will be hard to regulate and tax. What do you think they will do, now?
No matter which way it goes, this will change the equation on states rights and the future of law enforcement.
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Oldmantex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:05pmWow I am amazed at the so called freedom loving conservatives on this site.
First – Being ruled by Republicans is STILL being ruled. I choose freedom!!
Second – The founding fathers knew that they cant make everyone happy, so they made it possible for everyone to have the opportunity to be happy (live how they want) see States Rights.
Third – You cant mandate all things YOU see as wrong or immoral, it failed with the moral majority back in the 70s and wont work now> Example – You same republicans will say gun laws are bad because it only stops law abiding citizens and therefor useless. (You are right on this) But the same can be said for POT, a law only stops those that would be responsible, as they are most likely not using it now because they are law followers. The criminal will still use POT and break the law.
So the real need is to change the heart of a person if you want to enact real moral change, it doesn’t start with a law. So states pass laws as they see fit, the people must live under those laws, and if it causes chaos in Colo. then the people can change the law again.
But what you dont want is a massive federal power cramming their moral definition down each states throat. When you allow this, you get the extreme of both sides, and true freedom is lost in the process.
I would rather be free with a bunch of POT smokers doing it legally, than live under the oppressive rule of a federal government that has its moral compass swinging back and forth each el
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seeks4truth
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:11pmIsn’t saying murder is wrong a moral call? What about stealing? All laws are moral calls. It seems what you want is anarchy and our founders were not for that…just saying.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:13pmShould you have the freedom to marry your mother or father?
And yes, I’m assuming you are a male.
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Oldmantex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:33pmThe Constitution states that “No person shall…be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”
So I think that has been covered on theft and murder. As far as marrying your parents? Well if a States citizens want to do it, and it does not violate anyone’s rights, then yes the people should be allowed to live how they choose. Does the definition of freedom some how elude some of you?
I personally would not smoke POT, I dont drink, and if a law was put forth to allow it in my state, I would vote against it. BUT I still support the right of my fellow Americans to have the freedom to pass laws they see as fit, just as I have the right to vote against it if I see fit.
But no Law will ever keep a pot smoking criminal from getting pot and smoking it, just as no gun law will stop a crazy nut from getting a gun and shooting up a theater.
So the question is, do you really support freedom for all, or just freedom for what you deem acceptable. If it is only what you approve of, you are no different than the progressives.
If Republicans ever want to win an election again, they must sell freedom, for ALL. Then point out how that will allow states to pass laws allowing them to live as those citizens see fit. By doing so they can drop the abortion / gay marriage / pot arguments and at the same time point out how most states are conservative. If they choose to have laws against these things, they have every right to pass laws and enforce it.
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Kupo
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:44pmSeeks and Monk
What you guys are describing – murder, theft, and marrying a relative – are not typically federal offenses. Marrying a relative never is, and murder and theft are almost never. They are governed by state law. Drug laws should be the same.
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Oldmantex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:46pm@seeks4truth How is that I said pass laws / change laws multiple times in my original post and you think I want anarchy. I surmise you don’t comprehend a single thing I posted do you?
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Robinking
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:46pmYou won’t get much sympathy here. These people are a-OK with alcohol & tobacco, but heaven forbid someone should smoke one of God’s herbs! I’ve studied the Bible and am a devote follower of God… I simply don’t see where a medicinal herb is banned. Now if one get stoned… then that’s the same as being drunk in the eyes of God. But most of these folks won’t see their own hypocrisy; and it’s due to this arrogance that they lost to the Leftists. Abortion, marijuana drug laws and gay rights lead to the economic defeat of America! Not because they eventually became legal… but because in the fight, we lost our financial sanity!!!
Morally speaking, if I do my job well as a parent, I don’t have to worry about my sons knocking up some girl or becoming addicted to alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, huffing gas… see a pattern? ALL LEGAL! I’d rather my sons take a few hits off a joint, than to get drunk on a Saturday night… and NO, I won’t provide it to them and I wouldn’t legalize it for them. You see folks, I’m a doctor and I have a different view on marijuana than most. It does NOT cause brain damage as the flawed studies showed. It has endless uses in medicine and to be completely honest… I’ve smoked it sometimes to help me sleep! But no, these people will never see the hypocrisy in most of them! They are the mirror opposite of the Left!!!
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The-Monk
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:48pm@Oldmantex
Absolute freedom with no moral compass?
Is that what you are promoting? One poster here said “stay out of my bedroom”. Does that mean he can have sex with his 14 year old daughter OR son in his bedroom? Is he depriving them of anything?
There can be no real freedom without some kind of moral guide lines.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:51pm@Kupo
All those things are Federal as soon as you cross a State line.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:57pmis it better to have complete tyranny to prevent a couple headaches than to have liberty?
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Kupo
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:03pmNot true. They are still prosecuted under state law.
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Oldmantex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:07pm@ Monk – So are you saying that you would rather politicians in Washington DC setup laws they deem moral vs the people of each State?
What I am saying is very simple, the people of each state pass laws they wish to live under. That is the basis of a representative republic. Having direct input on the laws we are governed by.
Why would I want congress men and women from other states telling me how I have to live in Texas, when I have no input on their election or removal?
I never said we don’t want morality, I said laws cant make people moral. They can guide, they can instruct, but that cant enforce. If they could there would be no more stealing, and pot wouldn’t be an issue as our moral laws would have eradicated its existence.
The point is the people of Colo. have chosen to pass a law they want to live under, and so I support their States Right to do so. They must also live with the consequences of this decision. But to mandate from on high (Washington) they lose their freedom and input on how they choose to live.
That I wont ever support. That is being ruled, regardless of whether you agree with the ruling authority on high or not, because you have no direct influence on the elections of senators and house members outside your state.
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KidCharlemagne
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:12pmseeks4truth
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:11pm
Isn’t saying murder is wrong a moral call? What about stealing? All laws are moral calls.
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If all laws are moral calls, then Obamacare is a moral call too…..
If you’re saying that the federal government has an obligation to protect people from themselves, then it also has an obligation to protect those same people from debilitating injuries and diseases as well.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:22pm@Oldmantex
What I’m trying to do is get people to think about what they are thinking about. To Question. Everyone seems to already have made up their minds and they don’t know the real questions.
People don’t think. Just like the other poster on this page that said “you can’t have your cake and eat it too”. Utterly ridiculous. And backwards like most peoples thinking.
And all you people worried about smoking pot laws as the Fed Gov gobbles up our your State lands. (another post of mine on this page)
Wisdom and compassion = intelligence. All I see here are people shouting for States rights and freedom and letting the Fed Gov own their States.
Wake up you guys!
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The-Monk
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:38pmWhat happens when a person gets high? Not hurting anyone right? Just all mellow and laid back right?
What happens when large groups of people are like this? They don’t care about what’s going on around them. Check out this map. When you are high and not caring you are dull and the Fed’s come in and steel mine and yours land. Wake up!!
http://hitekconsulting.com/the-states-with-the-most-land-owned-by-the-federal-government.html
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Oldmantex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:48pm@ Monk if you want to start with land, hey I’m right there with you. I am all for tearing the power from Washington and giving it back to the people, through our states elected officials.
But this law has passed and it will come to a head since the Fed. says that marijuana is illegal. So lets get behind the people of Colo. and support them. Each step towards the implementation of States Rights recovery is something we should all support.
Far to many so called freedom loving republicans on this site / thread, simply dont understand freedom. What they really support is ruling from top down with their moral inclinations being front and center. But then they scream like a scalded cat when the progressives do the same thing with a different set or morals.
That is absolutely amazing!! But hey if you want to start with land issues, lets do it. I can support more than one cause at a time if it means getting States Rights back in order.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:49pmso we should keep marijuana at the unconstitutional federal level because…….Feds are trying to take our land.
WHAT!?
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The-Monk
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:12pmHi Oldmantex,
The land was taken long before this law was passed. And no matter which way the pot smoking law goes the people who smoke pot will continue to smoke pot. Nothing will change there of much value. But, getting the Fed and the UN out of our States ASAP in of much more importance. I State win over pot is just a joke really. I wouldn’t be surprised that the Fed cave on it just to give a false sense of winning to Colorado.
Now, back to land issues. Are you aware that the Feds are thinking about paying off Chine with US lands? Those parts that China owns within each State will be part of China and not the USA.
Do you want to see that? When I compare these two issues I say let the good people of Co. keep smoking just like they have been since the 60′s. I do not want China having sovereign land within US borders. It’s bad enough at our Southern border with Mexico.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:15pmEdit;
” I State win over pot is just a joke really…”
One State win….. (1)
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Oldmantex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:29pm@monk I think it is horrible and dont want to see it either. But I dont have to drop one cause for another. I am glad to see on your link how little they own in Texas. Sorry, but Im glad Texas wont lose much land to the chicoms. You are right we should be concerned, because that is historically how countries have paid off debt.
But I think the federal reserve will cash in on that land long before the chicoms considering they own more of the debt than china currently.
Either way, its a terrible position we are in. But I dont want to hijack this thread on pot with one on land right now, so that’s all I will say about that.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:34pmHi Oldmantex,
Agreed. Thanks for the dialog. Goodnight. : )
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Brainmuffin
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:25amI agree. Back in the 90′s I asked some abortion protestors how their carrying on signs demonstrated God’s love to people. They stared at me. “But, babies are dieing!” Yes, they are and unless you change the heart of someone else, they will continue to die.
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y2big1
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:07pmYou make a good point! If cannabis is legalized we would create so many jobs. Does anyone have any idea how many thing it can be used for? And I don’t mean smoking or cooking with it. The oils could be used too heat our homes and power our cars just to name a few. The fibers are very strong, we could make paper and would not have to cut down anymore trees. The end of global warming if you believe in that. Can be grown just about anywhere.The possibilities are endless!
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Gen-Seven
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:21pmOLDMANTEX has nailed it. I have always felt this very thing was the Achilles heel of the Conservatives.
Allow the people personal freedom to choose for themselves. But have the courage to allow the consequence of their choices. Free to get high and fully experience the consequence of gravity.
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Max jones
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 4:30pmThis is a chance to move the Federal govt. back just a little bit and that can’t be bad….State’s rights will be the next battleground in our struggle to retain God given freedom. Support state’s rights!!
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Stelex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:01pmIs it me or are the trolls really pouring it on lately……..They must have received orders from Der Furor.
Pantloadian…….love your stuff. Keep it up your killing me. Just for the record, if you clean out your pants of that load, you might be less angry
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savagenatn
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 4:23amwell the trolls are probably all potheads anyway so when they see a topic about their beloved hippie lettuce they get all excited while in their parent’s basement. Trolls get a damn job, get off the dope and do something productive for once in your sorry lives.
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ShyLow
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:57pmtax busy body progressives 100% to pay for their prison utopia
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BlackCrow
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:55pmThe roads are already swarming with drunks and cell phone idiots now throw in stoners. They want me driving a 1500 pound go-kart of a car? I want a surplus Brinks truck!
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OldSurfRat
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:01pmHate to break it to you but they are already there and the numbers wont increase.
Teenagers tend to like what is not legal vs what is. Once legal it’s no longer cool or any fun.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:04pmperhaps if the stupid drivers are happily stoned at home, they will find no reason to travel about
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Hugh Williams
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:12pmThe last time I checked it is illegal to drink and drive. In most states it is illegal to text and drive. It is illegal to take over the counter or prescription medicine that impairs motor skills and drive. Why do you think if pot is legalized the state legislatures will put in the law it is OK to smoke pot and drive a car?
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BlackCrow
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:20pmI worked in a highly hazardous occupation for years where we were regularly tested for not only Pot but Alcohol and other drugs not only for safety reasons but for security reasons. Now I don’t care if it is legal I would not want to be working on a hot radio transmitter with even a remote possibility my safety man was high or hungover.
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DIgnified
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 1:23am@Hugh. I don’t say this very often here, but, well said.
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DMENTED
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 3:54am@dignified – I don’t say this very often here either, but go away. No one cares what you say. In the delivery room, the Doctors and your own Mother didn’t care that you cried. Unfortunately, you started to breathe on your own. What rotten luck.
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phrogdriver
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:55pmAnd libertarians still sit in their mother’s basement eating Cheetos and wonder why no one takes them seriouslly . . .
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:05pmpathetic post. Are you the same person that wonders why we don’t like most republican candidates?
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Red Meat
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:07pmThese are some of the people that have infiltrated the Tea Party movement. They must be identified and eliminated.
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RepubliCorp
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:36pmPot will change the world….. that isn’t pathetic? Laughable
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Fubared
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:41pmHey meat- so you being a joooo hater is kosher with libertarianism? Dumb ass is a dumb ass no matter of affiliation. You sound like jihad jerk sometimes; so all libertarians are racist pos antisemites? Do you get a Gadsden flag for that or have to stitch your own out of free range hemp? Eliminate yourself and keep the aryan blood line clean huh? Thank yourself for Paul’s whacky weed Johnson getting zero(no offense) support. Cheetos does make sense now-tofu Cheetos.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:25pmif he got zero support then you have nothing to fear
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phrogdriver
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:33pmSoy – I don’t like most republican candidates. I don’t like most libertarian candidates. I don’t like ANY demorat candidates. Sorry, but I chose to think for myself. And, unlike Gary, I don’t think Colorado’s vote on pot will change the world.
But let’s all just take a step back, wait a few weeks and see which of us ends up looking stupid. I’m betting the world won’t change you – apparently – are. Which of us do you think will look stupid next week? (or next month, next year. You pick.. I don’t want to harsh my buzz.)
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:41pm“Soy – I don’t like most republican candidates. I don’t like most libertarian candidates.”
great – then i will be on the lookout for your denigrating comments about republicans….
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Red Meat
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 8:21amDear FUBAR,
I am not a libertarian. I am right of the Attila The Hun. I believe libertarian’s are progressives infiltrators dressed in sheeps clothing. They should be identified as such and rejected.
You have a wonderful day sweetie.
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00100111
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 9:58amDo you have a problem with liberty and freedom? What about it bothers you?
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Argosy
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:52pmGary Jonson is a clown who couldn’t even get 1% of the National Vote, He’s a joke.
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DMENTED
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 4:23amA stoned, splitting lying joke.
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OldSurfRat
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:52pmStay out of my bedroom. ( I agree)
Stay ot of my money. ( I agree)
Stay out of my car. ( I agree)
Stay out of my house. ( I agree)
But you cant have your cake and eat it too. You cant say give me freedom except for that and that and that etc. Now I dont agree with making heroin, meth etc legal but at some point where is your freedom line.
Jut sayin
If someone gets caught behind the wheel while high it’s a DUI so it really does not matter how you got there (high or drunk) besides Ive seen way more fights where drinking is involved vs smoking pot.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:27pmHi OldSurfRat,
Sorry but this is an old pet peeve of mime. It’s not you it’s most people so forgive me.
It’s not “you cant have your cake and eat it too”.
It’s “you can’t eat your cake and have it too”.
Most, and I do mean most, sayings that people use are backwards. Sorry. : )
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OldSurfRat
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:08pmHey Monk
No problem at all.
I have no poblem being corrected Sheldon (big bang).LOL
I will kep it in mind.
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OldSurfRat
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:19pmMonk
Just kidding about the Sheldon thing. I like to cut up and rag people in good fun.
Did not want you taking it the wrong way and really do not mind being corrected.
Thanks,
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:23pmmore like Leonard
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The-Monk
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:27pmHi OldSurfRat,
Not at all. Monks like to laugh also. : )
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OldSurfRat
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:32pmSoy LOL
Thats ok my wife calls me Howard when I get on a roll about metioning coitus to often.
BTW Married 26 yrs so I glad that I still got it. LOL
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OldSurfRat
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:44pmHey Monk
Many years ago we were @ Sea World and went on a flume ride. The guys behind us were tibetan monks. They spoke no english but we communicate fairly well. Anyway they take a picture of you when you take the drop. We got off the ride and were viewing all the pictures. The monks had such a great look (huge smiles) in the picture that we bought their picture rather than buy ours. We still have it to this day.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 11:28pm@OldSurfRat
: ) : ) : ) : )
4 Monks smiling…. LOL
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 6:52amSURF and MONK…..
:) ! Thank you both for painting a wonderful picture in my head! I will be chuckling all day…
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catty
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:51pmJust think of the revenue collected from taxing pot and legalizing gay marriage. But nooooo, it’s immoral to crazy christians.
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Wisdom7
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:25pmOne of these things is not like the other.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:35pm@catty
Not all things are all about money.
Otherwise we should just legalize bar fights and burglary and just tax it.
Lots of money there too.
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00100111
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:02amCatty, not all Christians. Keep that in mind before you spew intolerance.
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Chuck Stein
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:48pm“The world’s going to be a better place when the police go out and enforce real crime.”
Reminds me of Mayor Daly’s statement in 1968: “A policemen isn’t there to create disorder. A policeman’s job is to preserve disorder.”
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seeks4truth
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:47pmMarijuana used for medical purposes makes sense, like opiates… however, as a recreational drug it’s going to be as bad as alcohol. Now people don’t toke and go out because it’s illegal. Now that it’s legal out they’ll go. But the real problem is that all the happy go lucky dope smokers will now be smoking GM pot, mixed with stuff like tobacco. Here comes big Marijuana. Plus, who’s gonna pay the new taxed pot as opposed to still going to the local street seller for a cheeper high? the whole thing is a joke.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:56pmwhy would people buy it when they could just grow it?
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seeks4truth
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:10pmI think it’s legal to buy it not grow it… you think the government gives a monkeys about people growing their own? Ever hear of the farm bill. They can regulate your vegetable garden if they want. the whole thing is smoke and mirrors to get the pot smokers to like the democrats… The new mantra will be “give me liberty or give me pot”
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:15pmyou are more crazy conspiracy than i am. adieu
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Kupo
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:48pmWhat in the hell makes you think it would be cheaper on the street? Hint: it wouldn’t be.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 6:58amSOY…
“why would people buy it when they could just grow it?”
Several reasons…
It’s very difficult to grow high quality marijuana.
If you grow it outside, someone will just swipe it.
If you grow indoors, it stinks up the whole house…. and i mean STINK!
I have the skills to grow quality stuff…. but i would rather purchase from a licensed source.
Think of it in terms of brewing your own beer…. very difficult to make good beer… some people learn the craft, but most just buy it in a store.
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OldSurfRat
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 7:14amMorning East
I have to admit that as a young man (before having children) I used to do pretty good in the cultivation area. However theft is always and issue (damn lazy pot heads). But yea if the store could provide quality than I could see running into walgreens to pick up your stuff but would still enjoy raising my own babies. Kinda like growing tomatos.
Not sure if you picked up on my other comment but wanted to give you congrats for having your dog for so many years. I generally loose them around 12yrs.
Have a great friday!!
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 7:20amYou too, SURF …. TGIF!!
BTW.. saw your dog comment. Left you a response on the amigo-clown-car thread.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 7:31am@East
It was mostly a joke because of Seek’s nonsensical argument that legal weed will be more expensive than illegal weed. These people dont even understand simple economics
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OldSurfRat
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 7:37amEast
Well I think we have learned a little more about each other.
I figured mine would be obvious by my new avatar. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv8pkRpqXbg&feature=fvsr
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 9:05amlol SURF…. “if i’m here and you’re here, wouldn’t that be OUR time?” ;)
love me some FT@RH!
and Dazed n Confused…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT1VMzybq6c
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 9:08amSOY…
i get it now…. and agree.
how many anti-pot Blazers buy (cheaper) guns off the street when they are eligible for legal arms sales?
Probably not too many.
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OldSurfRat
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:28amLOL East
I may have to have pizza for lunch.
I was like that in high school (not proud of it).
I had a run in with a younger teacher just like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9huSs0g67c
You know the funny thing is that now I own a company (19yrs) and the teacher owns a real estate company. We live on the same street and get along now but I know he still looks at me and shakes his head “How The He11″
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Max jones
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 5:29pmWhy is this even an issue? We have a government leading us in the direction of totalitarian -global -fascist- socialist- communism and still there are people worried if someone else gets to smoke weed legally. And, for those who are talking morality, let me remind you that we still are legally sanctioning the murder of fetal humans, and normalizing the deviant practice of homosexuality, as well as degrading the blessed sacrament of marriage. In contrast with these things, legalizing pot is insignificant.
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RDMercer
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:46pmIt will change the world. All the welfare sucking, bottom feeders will be rendered harmless and the bill payers will rise to the top. As God intended. Not what the Govt. intended but they’ll have their day soon enough.
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DIgnified
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 1:31am@RD Lol. You know nothing of your own mythology. If hell were real, you’d be in trouble. But its not. So you’re OK. Carry on.
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UNALIEN
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 9:39amHell in a Progressive utopia is Starbucks running out of Grande cups….
and
heaven is allowing food stamps to be used to purchase POT
The revised Progressive mantra instead of a chicken in every pot..
“POT in every kitchen”
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Deuteronomy22
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:02pmNot familiar with that Bible passage.
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kickagrandma
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:44pmGood GOD ALMIGHTY!
JESUS CHRIST can and one day WILL CHANGE the world.
gary johson was running for President of the United States of America and he thinks pot legalization in colorado will change the world?????
DEAR GOD. No wonder we lost the election!
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:49pmI wouldn’t be surprised if Jesus Christ smoked marijuana or used something similar in his part of the world during his time period.
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ShyLow
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:53pmever hear of free-will? and who tried to give it
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Stelex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:55pmKG…..ignore the troll.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:57pm“ignore the rational argument”
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OldSurfRat
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:58pmAmerican Soldier
Not sure about that but I dont think he would be devistated if you were firing up one vs downing a 6 pack. Its all the same. In moderation and dont get drunk / blitz.
We wonder why the GOP lost.
I dont agree with abortion but I dont vote on that issue alone. Faith has nothing to do with habits or addictions. We can live abetter life if we follow the bible but we will not be judged because potis legal.
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tankyjo
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:37pmYeah, it’s gonna be great. Ask the countries we buy our dope from. And you, encinom, how is society better off as we continue to erode the foundations? Are there any absolutes? When does the building collapse? There are consequences, they are unavoidable as well.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:43pmwhat countries do we buy our dope from that have legal marijuana?
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:44pmErode our foundation? The drug war has only been around for what? 40 years? There was no drug prohibition from the founding up until modern history. So what tradition is eroded by reverting back to looser or non-existent drug laws?
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encinom
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:45pmMexico is falling apart becuas eof a black market, not a legal market. Amsterdam didn’t fall into the sea.
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encinom
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:46pmWhen is it the governemnts role to dictate morality?
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Chuck Stein
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:49pmActually, “illegal” drugs are not that new — I think that the law’s 100th anniversary is coming up.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:50pmIt only allowed to regular morality as long as it aligns with Conservatism. Once that morality shifts to something that Liberals believe it, they no longer believe in this rhetoric.
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seeks4truth
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:54pm@ENCINOM, the government regulates murder…that is only immoral if you believe it is. Goverment is set up to regulate. Our government over regulates, but making something legal with no consequences for it’s misuse is bad government.
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encinom
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:19pm@seek4truth,
Tyipcal illogic I come to expect on the Blaze, with crimes where there is a victims, the rights, liberty and safety of the victim are violated. With pot there are no victims. BIG DIFFERENCE. The Government has no business regulating morality, it should have learned that lesson during the 1920′s.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:31pm@Encinom
“it should have learned that lesson during the 1920′s.”
There was a point in time when they did learn that lesson. But then the party was taken over by the big-government progressives who figured out they could get more votes by talking about social conservatism without ever doing anything about it
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00100111
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:06amHoly Crap, I just agreed with Encinom. I’ll be looking for flying pigs.
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00100111
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:13amSeek, who said there wouldn’t be consequences? Alcohol is legal, driving drunk is illegal. If you’re stoned at home, go for it. If you do get out on the road and an accident happens while you’re impaired/stoned, you think you’ll get a pass? Why do people think there will be no consequences? Keeping it illegal is helping so much with that? Govt’s role is not to legislate morality or what you put in your body. If what you put in your body impairs you, and you affect someone else because of it, THEN a crime has happened. You messing yourself up should not be a crime. If someone asks “Well what about the families that are affected?” That family should intervene, not the govt. Same with alcohol, etc.
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uffda
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:33pmI have no problem with anyone smoking pot as long as they have no problem with their surgeon and surgical team smoking da weed. Ya Freed Da Weed Man. You Are So Wasted!
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:42pmThose surgeons your speak of are not allowed to drink before a surgery, yet there are some failed doctors who have. They have killed people while doing so and lost their practice and ruined their lives because of their failure to be RESPONSIBLE with their personal freedom. What makes you think you’re any safer now with the possibility that your surgeon is drunk of off Jack Daniels? Hell, I’d rather my surgeon be high, he’d probably forget he had surgery and would be in the cafeteria munching down. The drunk surgeon will be drunk and full of “liquid courage” and will be ready to operate on you in NO TIME!
So just because weed is legal, you think it’ll be legal and allowed for surgeons to smoke before an operation? Are you sure you weren’t high when you came up with your post?
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ShyLow
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:44pmDrug test teachers and police.
God put the plant here. Who is man to outlaw it?
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encinom
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:46pmThe surgeons drink, what is the difference.
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uffda
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 3:12amI was raised on the farm. Lots of ditch weed around. Our cattle, horses, and hogs wouldn’t touch da weed. So you are saying you are dumber than hogs. Knock yourselves out.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 7:06amUFFDA…
Do you object to Dr.s and surgeons being high on Vicodin and Oxycontin?
If so, in many cases, your objections are being ignored.
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Ducky657
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:32pmLibertarians crack me up. This guy thinks legalized pot will revolutionize something? It is obvious by the way people voted in the last election that most of these mush heads are already airin’ one out! The real truth is four decades of a deficient education system and the rampant use of legal and illegal drugs has reduced our country to a bunch of functional illiterates whose last original thought happened when they first soiled their diapers. Talk to nearly anyone under the age of thirty and you will discern a huge knowledge gap regarding current affairs.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:37pmever hear about Nullification? This is a positive step for many reasons
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justangry
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:40pmUm well it is a state’s rights argument exacerbated by the UN telling our fed that it needs to crack down on such silliness. But yeah it’s all about a harmless plant…
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black9897
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:47pmMaybe he means when more states stand up for their rights (ya know, states rights) then it will spread which means the Federal Gov will have less control. Unless you’d like to be controlled more.
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Stelex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:51pmAngry, I grew up with a few friends, we all started on pot, 2 out 4 of us are dead. And I can honestly say it all started with pot. Maybe some don’t move on….maybe some do…….You willing to let your kids go there and wait for the Phone Call……I guarantee that a liberal supporting pot, if they found out that there daughter’s boyfriend was stoned during the accident that killed her would probably think differently. Or Libertarian……..everything looks good on paper.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:26pm@Stelex
Since you brought it up – please dont mind me asking – but how did your 2 friends die?
I know a lot of friends of friends that died in the middle east – but nobody is talking about outlawing war. Two people in my church died this year from driving – but people continue to do it
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justangry
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 7:55amSteelex, I’m sorry about your buddies, but imagine they would have found the harder stuff regardless of whether or not they smoked weed. I’d also like to point out that I’m assuming weed was illegal when you all smoked it, yet it didn’t deter you all from doing it, which brings us back to the fiscal argument of paying for the “war” on drugs. Of course all arguments can be trumped by “it’s unconstitutional”. If the constitutional argument doesn’t convince you that we’re on the wrong course, you’re a progressive.
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00100111
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:18amPeople die. People die for many reasons. Even outlawing death won’t stop people from dying. You can’t legislate this world to the point of removing all risk. There are risks to freedom. I’ll gladly accept every risk involved with freedom than take “security” and be safe under big govt rule. “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.” I’d add to that quote, vigilance not just to govt, but to the world and people around you.
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Oldmantex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:30pmThis is a good thing. States need to start challenging federal laws that usurp states rights. States have the right to pass laws that they see fit, as long as they are not in violation of the Constitution and last time I read it, there was no mention of drugs.
Its time states take back their power. We can see what abuse has come from over reaching federal powers.
BTW if you have to FIND something in the constitution then its not there, we have a way to add anything we want to it, so people need to stop making it say what they want. If Americans want to outlaw drug use in all states, we need a constitution amendment.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:38pmbravo post
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The-Monk
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:56pm@Oldmantex
States should concentrate on taking their lands back from the Feds first.
If they don’t own their own land they can’t do much else.
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Stelex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:28pmJust look at the guy, he’s quite stoned and I wouldn’t trust him with anything let alone the country. I did my “Pot” time, 13 to 16yo…….If your still smoking pot after 20, you never grew up. Not someone I want leading the country or driving a car next to me on 93 in NH. Personally pot should be treated like pot…..just no jail time……fine them, fine them big. Dealers, you take there drivers license and fine them big time. Pot is a gateway drug, I moved onto Mesc., Acid, Coke and at 28, I woke up. If you tell someone, this will make you feel good, then someone else will say this will make you feel better and on and on. Fines for pot….no Jail time. But not legal.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:34pmGary Johnson abstains from all drugs, including alcohol….Get your facts straight before making stupid statements
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Jarhead 88
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:40pmYeah Soy, I’m sure you know that for sure too, LOL! Gullible fool.
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Stelex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:40pmShow me the bloodwork Soy….the guy is as stoned as they get. I been there and I know f’d up. He’s totally f’d up and you want him running the country. JAGOV
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rwmccrory
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:43pmno you’re just a weak person, alcoholism isn’t a gateway ism, you do what’s legal i’d rather pass up a stoner going 20 miles an hour than a drunk driver, so are you for outlawing alcohol i don’t do either but don’t see the harm, weed has less health risk than tobacco nicotine makes you feel good. stick to what’s important in society making jobs so we can pay our bills and have stuff not peoples freedom to do what they want in their own homes.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:53pm@Stelex
You are the one exhibiting signs of drug use (irrational, forgetful, defensive). Here is your ‘bloodwork”…..
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Gary_Johnson_Drugs.htm
http://thoughtsonliberty.com/gary-johnson-the-candidate-your-candidate-could-look-like
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/meet-gary-johnson-ron-paul-2012_520775.html
Read the articles, they are short enough
“I don’t smoke pot today. I don’t drink alcohol. But I’ve done both of them and I can speak with authority over the fact that there’s a big difference between marijuana and alcohol. And the difference is that marijuana is a lot safer.”
Gary Johnson. June 15, 2011, Rolling Stone Magazine interview
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Stelex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:54pmRWM…….what????
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Stelex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:04pmWe’ve been blessed with the presence of Gary Johnson himself…….aka RWMCCRORY
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Stelex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:15pmRolling Stone? Thats your source. I used to lean libertarian, but you’ve convinced me otherwise. Thanks.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:31pmSorry Stelex that is the stupidest argument i have ever heard you make…..Gary Johnson said it, who cares who he said it to????????????????????? Gary Johnson said it, so unless you have any reason to think otherwise – i suggest you stop making a fool of yourself
Are you one of those people who wont listen to anything that comes from a source they dont like? You belong in the 1600s.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 7:17amSTELEX…
“I did my “Pot” time, 13 to 16yo…….If your still smoking pot after 20, you never grew up.”
That, there, is the problem. Marijuana is not for kids. I have a bunch of dead dope (heroin) addict friends. The only “gateway” pot provided them was a gateway to the criminal element. They “fell into” heroin by associating with heroin addicts that sold them pot. Maybe i wasn’t “cool” enough, but didn’t start smoking pot until i was an adult… so maybe i have a different perspective as a result.
As an adult, I had more respect for the decisions i made than teens typically do.
Decriminalize adult usage… but seriously go after people providing it to kids.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:24pmColorado legalized pot? Call 911 and check on the welfare of the citizens of Colorado,are they okay do they have food and water, are there any survivors?
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Stelex
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:33pmThey are fine, and cheeto’s sales are through the roof. Production is crashing and couch sales are booming. Encinom just moved there as well as Pantloadian.
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baxter999
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:23pmWhen a car load of stoners high on pot kills my wife and children, exactly why is this considered a “victimless” crime? Johnson’s psycho and so are all of you if you think legalizing this dangerous drug will do anything other than put the rest of us at risk of life and limb as well as being responsible for the damage pot does to health and mind. Talk about stupid. There aren’t even any standards for pot use if a cop does stop a stoned idiot. What is the safe level, Governor Johnson? By what objective criterion do you make your claim that dope use is a victimless crime? The dope smoker himself will be just the first of a long list of victims that includes all the rest of us with our loss of safety and having to care for the damage stoners will do. Thanks a lot, dopers.
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encinom
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:28pmBecause there is never, ever anyone killed by drunk drivers?
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:31pmDo you honestly thing that because they legalized it that all of the sudden every in Colorado is going to light up? Anyone who is smoking because of the legalization was more than likely doing it before it was legalized. Your family was safe (as safe as one can honestly be) before, you’re family is as safe today. Your family is not at risk because of legalized pot. If they’re going to die in a car accident, I would almost say they have a 90% chance of it being alcohol related than marijuana related.
So are you FOR criminalization Jack Daniels? If not, you are a class A hypocrite.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:33pmDope use is a victimless crime. No one is hurt from someone lighting a plant and inhaling the smoke. It’s driving while intoxicated that hurts people, which is still going to be ILLEGAL to do. Just like Alcohol, responsible adults can partake in it, but if you can’t be responsible, you go to JAIL. Pretty simple concept really…
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WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:34pmLol I really dont think you have any idea what pot does to a person. Its not like being drunk where you have very little control over your motor skills. I would suggest doing your own research and quit being so up tight and repeating establishment talking points. Our first president grew hemp. THC was used as a healing agent since forever. Quit letting the multinational corporations control your thoughts.
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justangry
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:34pmStoners are typically pretty sedentary. I’d be more concerned with prescriptions and alcohol and a combination of the two.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:36pmthere are plenty of laws currently on the books that would prohibit ‘stoned driving’.
Ever hear of M.A.D.D???
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black9897
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:39pmPot is not like alcohol. You’re either high or you’re not. As was pointed out, it’s absurd to worry about pot while people drink and drive. there are so many things to worry about in life, pot is not one of them. It’s none of your business what someone puts in their body, as long as they do not violate your rights.
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JQCitizen
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:39pmEncinom: Don’t you realize that you just made the BEST ARGUMENT for NOT legalizing pot?
When they STOP giving drunk drivers second chances, and STOP letting criminals plead diminished capacity for their crimes while drunk; – then MAYBE we’ll consider decriminalization a good thing.
Unti then, well; NOT SO MUCH!
The RESPONSIBILITY CLOCK starts for me when they CHOOSE to put the drink or the joint to their lips; Until this nation has the MORAL COURAGE to do that with Alcohol, they’ve lost my support for the legalization of anything else!
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black9897
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:52pm@JQ
You must not understand.
You think that having this stuff illegal actually helping? You say our morals are so bad we can’t risk it…that’s not the point; the point is you have zero right to tell someone they can’t drink alcohol or can’t smoke. It’s not the government’s job.
Not to mention the vast majority of our problems are from it being ILLEGAL.
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OldSurfRat
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:23pmBlack
You are so right. People just dont get it that freedom is freedom. You can choose not to drink or smoke and you can choose to drink or smoke.
If you make it legal you cut out the middle men. This is where the crime comes from.
Look at how Mexico is poo pooing this. It sure as he11 is not because they want a clean america. Its because they are getting cut out of the game.
Make it legal tax the heck out of it and let people decide for themself.
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Kupo
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:58pmJQCITIZEN
“When they STOP giving drunk drivers second chances, and STOP letting criminals plead diminished capacity for their crimes while drunk; – then MAYBE we’ll consider decriminalization a good thing.”
What in the heck are you babbling about? Colorado and Washington both decided that they want marijuana to be legal. The voters have spoken! Since there is nothing in the Constitution that precludes this from being a 10th Amendment issue, the federal government has an obligation to honor state law. How is this so hard for you people to understand?!
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00100111
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:26amArguments for keeping pot illegal and the war on drugs going reminds me a lot of concealed handgun license/permit laws gaining ground. When they first started it was “Blood in the streets” “Shoot outs over parking spots” “Regular arguments will turn deadly at kids soccer fields” “Waaaaaaah”. None of it happened, none of it materialized. It’s the same here. Irrational knee jerk reactions to pot being legalized. There are many far more harmful things that are legal. They are regulated and taxed. There are laws in place to punish those under the influence in public. Look back to the early history of this country, before the temperance movement banned it all. Just about all of it was legal, no issues. People used their own best judgement, didn’t rely on govt to tell them “Pot’s bad, mmmmkay.”
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bluntforce
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:22pmGary Johnson, the poster child for the old anti-drug add campaign: “Why do you think they call it dope?” From being onstage at the Republican debates, to Cenk Whatshisname on Current TV. I’m sure the four college kids watching that channel bobbed their heads in agreement, forgot why they were watching, munched some Frito’s and fell back asleep.
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KidCharlemagne
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:20pmYou forgot to include William F. Buckley in that crew:
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“What we face is the politician’s fear of endorsing any change in existing marijuana laws. You can imagine what a call for reform in those laws would do to an upward mobile political figure. Gary Johnson, governor of New Mexico, came out in favor of legalization — and went on to private life. George Shultz, former secretary of state, long ago called for legalization, but he was not running for office, and at his age, and with his distinctions, he is immune to slurred charges of indifference to the fate of children and humankind. But Kurt Schmoke, mayor of Baltimore, did it, and survived a reelection challenge.”
William F. Buckley (National Review, June 29, 2004): “Free Weeds”
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OldSurfRat
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:19pmI don’t know that it will change the world but I may have to visit Colorado on my next vacation.
I promise not to inhale.
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starman70
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:17pmOf course, Mr. Johnson, in his naivete’, seems to forget that Marijuana, in many cases, leads to use of harder drugs ans will result in more crime.
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encinom
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:27pmOnly it doesn’t, that little lie from Nancy Reagan was never proven. Studies find that police crack down on pot sellers allowing the sellers of other drugs to enter an area.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:36pmWeed is a gateway drug to harder drugs is like saying milk is a gateway drug to alcohol. The only reason people “Upgrade” is because they’re sold in the same place, and the “salesman” aka “drug dealer” wants to increase his profits by up selling his customers to harder, more addictive, more expensive and higher margined products. Take the drug dealer out of the equation and the up sell factor diminishes.
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justangry
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:36pmOf course, and this scientific conclusion is based on what? An after school special?
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:37pm“Marijuana, in many cases, leads to use of harder drugs ans will result in more crime.”
So does cigarrettes…Whats your point? Why not just have young people take a personality test and if they exhibit drug abuse personality – kill them
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catty
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:47pmno, it doesn’t
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toiletclogga
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:15pmWhy doesn’t the state let people grow their own pot then? Money! It’s all about new tax revenue streams. If the country wasn’t up to their eyeballs in debt, legalization of marijuana would never have been enacted. We went off the fiscal cliff years ago at about the same time we went off the moral cliff! This country needs to do some soul searching!
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encinom
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:23pmWhat is the difference between pot and alcohol, for that matter legalize the oldest profession also? Prohibition failed, let people grow and smoke if they desire, they have free will. More freddoms not less. And why no tax it, let the States reap the cash make them ledd dependant on the largness of the Federal government to fund programs.
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toiletclogga
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:27pmOne beer won’t get you drunk. One toke gets you high! Thats the difference.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 8:38pmSo what exactly is the purpose of that comparison? Minimal revenue since you have to use less weed to gain the same affect?
Why does it matter how quickly you become intoxicated? Does it somehow make it worse or more reason to make it illegal? That’s like saying beer is ok but we should ban liquor because you don’t get drunk off of 4 beers, but you will off of 4 shots. See how ridiculous that argument is?
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 9:18pmi guess we should decide the entire function and laws of our government based on “one-ism”
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USATrucker
Posted on November 29, 2012 at 10:04pmAccording to my friends in Colorado, the law does let the people grow their own. It allows for a person to grow up to 6 plants. That should be more then enough for most people (unless you’re Willie Nelson).
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toiletclogga
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 5:28amI don’ t want to be around people that are high. I don’ t want my children to be around people that are high. I don’t want to have to rely on people who are high, may be high, or are thinking that it would be great to be high. Marijuana demotivates people, and we need motivated people in order for our society to function properly. I have a gut feeling I’m debating 17 year old children. As for you American Soldier, you’re an F’n disgrace. I ran across alot of turds like you while I was in the service. People like you were always in trouble, always mouthing off, always complaining that you have it so bad.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 7:09am@toilet
I dont want to be around drunk people and i certainly dont want my children to grow up in a society that encourages drinking….Therefore, drinking should be illegal
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y2big1
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 9:52pmLegalizing cannabis would be great! But not for smoking we could do so much with it. There are many uses, the oil could be used to run our cars heat our homes. The fibers are strong and can be made into rope or paper even clothing. World War one pilots had parts of their parachutes made of cannabis ropes,very strong and light weight. We would not have too cut down trees any more,if you believe in global warming they say the best way to cure it is to stop cutting down trees and stop using fossil fuel if would do both and its easy to grow it grows anywhere. The jobs we would create would be in the millions and we would not need any more oil from the middle east. Government has tried too scrub all the good that could come of growing Cannabis as a crop. You can find all I talked about just look it up its all out there. But growing it is illegal!
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