A teacher in South Lyon, Michigan, has been suspended after playing a song for students that supports gay marriage. As a result of the action, Susan Johnson, an eighth-grade educator at South Lyon’s Centennial Middle School, has been removed from the classroom without pay.
The incident unfolded last week after a student asked if he could play it for other pupils to hear. The tune, by underground rapper Ben Macklemore, tackles the issues of hate, stereotyping and other related themes. While Johnson assumed her students could learn a great deal from the song, not everyone appreciated her decision to play it.
“I asked him a few questions about the song. If it was violent, if there was any profanity, and he said no,” Johnson, a performing arts teacher, explained. “And I said this sounds like a great song to go ahead and use for the class.”
WJBK-TV has more:
A student complained and by the end of the day, South Lyon school leadership informed the teacher that she would be suspended for three days (two without pay), WJBK-TV reports. Johnson is stunned and dumbfounded.
“I don’t think that it was really even thought through. I was paralyzed. I really didn’t understand why I was being suspended,” she told the outlet. ”I’m very disappointed in the bias, the bigotry that I feel that they’re really hiding behind.”
School officials have declined to speak with media.
“I really love my kids and I never want to hurt them, but I also know that there’s a lot of bullying and there’s a lot of gay bashing and racial issues going on in our country and I want the kids to feel comfortable in my class no matter who they are,” the educator added.
We’ll leave you with the controversial song and music video, below (caution: explicit):
(H/T: WJBK-TV)
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RightUnite
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:21pmParalyzed?? Seriously?? Don’t you think that’s a little overreaction?? Pppfffftttt!
Walkabout
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:33pmShe is trying to get sympathy. She is not receiving a a pink slip just a 3 day timeout only 2 without pay.
This is by no means draconian.
Other teachers have suffered far worse for stuff they did not do in their classroom. Merely opposing the gay lifestyle choice on Facebook has gotten other s in far worse trouble.
They still have not found the gay gene!
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The-Monk
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:25pmHey Walkabout,
You still here on this story?
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stage9
Nov. 29, 2012 at 6:20pmIt’s easy to call people bigoted when it’s someone else’s kids you’re indoctrinating.
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braddock66
Nov. 29, 2012 at 10:23pmGays are an abomination of the human race .they disgust me. Go to Iran and see how they treat you. They’ll give you something to suck on!!Get out of my country!!!
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1947
Nov. 29, 2012 at 10:37pmIt sounds like the teacher is COMING OUT she must be GAY……let us her hear more…she sure looks like like something
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1947
Nov. 29, 2012 at 10:56pmWhat’s students back round who wanted to play the song…..somethings WRONG here. The student must be GAY….the other students better watch OUT…..
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SELECT
Nov. 29, 2012 at 11:41pmIt is my opinion that a majority of americans have nothing against gay folks. However, when they start trying to cram their “chosen” life style on the rest of the population that becomes too much for me.
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The Giver
Nov. 30, 2012 at 1:06amI am reading the Bible and can’t find anything in the New Testament ( where the new covenant is found) where it says judge and hate. Christ said that he who is without sin, cast the first stone. He also instructed to judge not, lest you be judged. Forgive and you will be forgiven. We will all have to stand before our Lord individually. The more I read, I realize that it is all about love. If we only love those that think like us, we are no better than a thief. Even a thief loves his family. Truly read the Bible, there is no room for hate. They are our brothers and sisters. The important thing is that they know how much Jesus loves them. We are all sinners and only through His blood are we worthy of salvation.
The student seems to have misrepresented the video to the teacher. It was an ad for gay marriage in class. Not really the place for it. The activists alienate many people.
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hardiepiper
Nov. 30, 2012 at 6:22amGIVER, stop taking the Bible out of context. The very scriptures you quote go on to tell you to judge once you have removed the sin from your own life. You are to judge by scripture. If someone is sinning against God, you are to make it known to them. Jesus went around all day pointing people’s sin out to them and then told them to go and sin no more. He also warned them of eternal hell fire repeatedly. It’s because of his love for them that he did this. You need to start at Matthew 1 and read all the way through instead of picking and choosing the verses you like and making a smorgasbord Bible.
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freepr008
Nov. 30, 2012 at 7:59amGiver@ – right on the spot. You spoke the true. Jesus spoke the true. Sadly there’s still exist people like the religious people in the time of Jesus think they were hollier than God. Jesus refers to them as blinds guiding blinds. Religiousity clouded their hearts.
Hardiepiper@- you have the right to judge once you removed sin from your life? If you removed you didn’t do nothing. Because is was you who artificially removed. Salvation and sin redemption is a gift. Is Grace. You don’t win the right to judge nor given to. If you know much about the scripture, please point the verse where it said. By the way where is the golden rule. Ohh I misquoted that?
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poorrichard09
Nov. 30, 2012 at 8:06amThe state of Michigan is in such great financial shape the middle school has a “performing arts” class?
If they’re play songs about gay marriage ya have to wonder exactly what type of “arts” they’re “performing” if you get my drift.
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b3b57af55c7a898bcfff2732ae06660e
Dec. 9, 2012 at 7:17pmFinally, real rights for real people.
You, on the other hand, are so stupid you deserve no rights.
The Founding Fathers would be shamed.
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b3b57af55c7a898bcfff2732ae06660e
Dec. 9, 2012 at 7:18pmdie
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blanco5
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:19pmWould you rather be gay in Amerika or iran? Stop acting like gays are 75% of the population!!!!! Marry your refrigerador for all I care!
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DoseofReality
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:45pmthats great you dont care – neither do I …marry whoever the hell you want to. problem is the vast majority of people on this site disagree and want the government to determine which adults can and cannot marry whom.
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57states
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:11pmNo one cares what gays do, if you want to be together .. be together!! But dont call it marriage …. call it something else other than marriage! Marriage is between a man and woman. you see that is taking something that is so supposed to be sacred in most religions for thousands of years and demanding people change for you and calling them biggots all because we agree with what marriage was intended for! so invent your own ceramony but leave the tradition of marriage alone, again I dont care who you like or who you are, who you want to be gay with i do not have a problem with that, that is between you and god, but dont take thousand year old tradition and for people to change it just my O
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VRW Conspirator
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:20pmNo…I would say that the vast majority of people on this site would say that they believe whom you marry is a State’s Rights issue and that the people in your State should decide…if you don’t like their choice, you can always move somewhere else…
The Federal government should have no say in who you marry, what you smoke or put in your body, where you live, what you drive, or what you eat and drink. They should also have no say in how you education your children, what church you go to or how you display that faith ( even in the public square), nor should they have anything to say about the type of energy I use to power, heat, and use inside my own home or business.
Most people on this site are against Federal government intrusion into our lives outside of what the Constitution strictly spells out. Now before you go all “then why didn’t they vote for Ron Paul or Gary Johnson”, that is a dog that just won’t hunt. That has been discussed over and over and over and many (rightly so) had concerns about Paul’s electability (many RP supporters GREATLY over estimate his appeal to the leftist, youth, and moderates) and his foreign policy which was isolationist, which even the Founder’s did not agree with completely since they allowed the Senate power to approve treaties with other nations and the President to instigate them.
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:35pm@57 states.
1. no one is asking your church to honor gay marriage. People are asking the government too. If you are logic is correct then everyone should get civili unions gay or straight and marriage should only be decided by the church. I think most people would agree with that.
2. Which part of biblical marriage is sacred? The part where I get to beat my wife, or have many of them? Marriage has been redefined over the years, to suggest otherwise is to ignore history.
@everyone else. GROW UP! She played a song that told children to not be afraid, and that things get better in spite of what you are told. Conservatives are ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY on this issue. It’s impossible not to see that. You think gay people are gross or shouldn’t have marriage rights don’t let them marry in your church, no one is asking your faith recognize it, or your church to perform the service, they are asking the federal government to give them the same human rights as the rest of us.
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katzmeow44
Nov. 29, 2012 at 5:38pm57STATES,
You nailed it! That is exactly how I feel about that matter. I couldn’t have said it any better myself :)
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2GodBeTheGlory
Nov. 29, 2012 at 5:58pm@YourArgumentIsInvalid
You need to look further into history yourself. Marriage should be sacred, regardless of where you stand, the state stands, or even where a church stands. If you don’t believe me, good, look at history that you so described. Ever culture that had any lasting effect fell because they dropped their morals.
You say that people do not want to marry in a church, that statement is either naive or a lie. The homosexuals are targeting churches in an attempt to demonize and force churches to “get with the times”. Most churches have a book that I’m well familiar with that shows time and time again what happens to those that “get with the times”.
From what I gather from your statements, it is your belief that there is nothing wrong with homosexiaility and should be embraced by the community, however, you have either not looked at history, or even current CDC evidence as to what problems those that are into that life style cause. Should my dollar go to treat those of that life style? Should the church pay for treatment and what other issues are caused by the choice of a few and their impact on a community?
Your lack of forethought and wanted the “pleasure me” mentality is what is causing the destruction of this country. Your lack of common sense in seeing the destruction is normal for children, as children do not see the problem in running into the street.
Most will never grow up.
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toto
Nov. 29, 2012 at 6:12pmI am sick to death of homosexuality being promoted as desirable to our children. Marriage as an institution is thousands of years old. If gays want a recognized relationship, fine, figure out an appropriate description of it that doesn’t turn the definition of marriage upside down. Why is this country allowing a minority to determine what the majority must accept and believe? I do not want my children to ever learn or believe that 2 mommies or 2 daddies are equal to a mother and a father as the most desirable family unit FOR CHILDREN to be raised in. Common sense should tell anyone that children should have a mother and a father ideally. There are no “perfect” families, but striving for the ideal seems to have died and whatever works for the selfish desires of the moment prevails.
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Nov. 29, 2012 at 7:35pm@2GODBETHEGLORY
so are you implying jews/christians/mormans/muslims fell as a result of straying from the “morals” their books preached on bigamy, slavery, polygamy? Are you suggesting that christians have strayed for not providing a dowry, or that Jews & mormons have strayed for not allowing multiple wives? Have their faiths grown better or worse as a result? Marriage is ambiguous at best when it comes to faith.
I am an athiest, and therefore believe all religion is out of date, but let us not go ascribing fringe beliefs to that of mainstream U.S. The majority of homosexuals and their supporters do not care what your ignorant churches do so long as they get equality under the law/title. There are plenty of fringe movement that attack churches, but to be fair there are plenty of ignorant bigots like you who view the number of CDC related HIV cases for gay men as a result of their lifestyle, and not the result of a lack of sex education. In fact if you look at the statistical map of places that have the highest rates of HIV, they also are the places that do not teach sex education. These are also the states with the highest teen pregnancy numbers, and the list goes on. The problem is throwing the bible at people and calling homosexuality a plague doesn’t prove your point just makes you look like more of an uneducated bigot.
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starman70
Nov. 29, 2012 at 8:54pmShe is supposed to be teaching her subject and not brainwashing the students.
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2GodBeTheGlory
Nov. 29, 2012 at 9:05pm@YourArgumentIsInvalid
You have made your point well, and in doing so made mine. You state that the problem is sex ed, however, those same areas of what you speak in the US are spending millions per yer and are still having a problem. Are you saying that those who are in that life style just “don’t know” how to have “safe sex”? Is that your argument?
Your statements regarding the different religions are disregarded as you obviously do not understand and reject any thought from them, hence your thoughts on an education.
Your argument is further invalid as your started to base your points by calling me an “ignorant bigots” and “uneducated bigot”. Your attempt to elevate your position by name calling is childish and belongs on the play-ground not in intelligent discussions. You are further showing everyone here how ineffective in attempting to resort to facts that are just not true see http://www.kff.org/hivaids/upload/3029-13.pdf as proof.
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Crazyotto
Nov. 30, 2012 at 9:08amNo I believe that the vast majority of people on this site are tired of a small minority cramming there sexual habits down our throats and more importantly brainwashing our children into believing that gay sex is normal and straight sex isn’t. Marriage is a State rights issue not a Federal one. I disagree with anyone who is trying to make it otherwise. In the end Gays want to/need to be a majority in their own minds.. so they will stop at nothing to achieve this…They do not deserve special rights and they should not be treated as a protected class ..this is silly BS..
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Nov. 30, 2012 at 9:42am@2GODBETHEGLORY
Let’s take your argument point by point shall we?
Spending millions per year on sex ed does not actually address that under George W. Bush they spent those millions on abstinance only education, which is why teen pregnancy, and aids actually went up during those years. Search your own link for aids diagnoses through the years there was a steep decline when comprehensive sexual education was being implemented in the 1990s and a steep rise when abstinance only was being taught under president bush. Spending million on sex education does not mean you teach about STDs and condoms. For instance look at the teen pregnancy rate in states that still teach abstinence only education: http://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/teenpregnancy/StateInfo.html
furthermore that same CDC study you cited pointed out that HIV/AIDs diagnoses were falling in states with comprehensive sexual education. Perhaps you should have actually read the report instead of just looking at the pretty charts.
my views on religion are disregarded cause you cannot disprove what I say, but I am not trying to pick on your faith, Just don’t want it to force homophobia into our politics.
One final point. Do you think the best way to prevent the spread of aids is to not allow gay people to have monogamous relationships with one partner? No one is forcing your church to recognize it, just the government. I understand the conservative argument on abortion, but am baffled by your stance on homosexuality.
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2GodBeTheGlory
Nov. 30, 2012 at 10:54am@YourArgumentIsInvalid
Again you have made my point. You look but do not see, you listen but do not hear. If you had understood the report, you would have seen that the highest rate of HIV infections where in the following top 3 locations: District of Columbia, Maryland, and New York. You stated that those places teach abstinence only, I refute your claim for those locations. You incorrectly state that “abstinance only was being taught under president bush”, however, a cursory look found the New Your City Department of Education HIV/AIDS Curriculum 2005 by the Board of Education that does instruct STIs, condoms, as well as others. If you want to PROVE your point, then do so without the failed attempt of creating false information.
If you want to continue this discussion, then have real facts in hand, and leave the childish behavior at home. If you cannot see the negative impact to the community by engaging in that type of life style (both monetarily and psychological as well as the general welfare of the community) then you are blind.
Your comment on religion is noted. As many before me has stated, you can lead a horse to water but cannot make them drink. Your opinion is your own, I have not said anything derogatory about you being an athiest even though you have done so to me on many occasions.
My stance is not limited to homosexuality, but all infidelity and sex outside of marriage.
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Nov. 30, 2012 at 1:27pm@2GODBETHEGLORY
Actually you are proving mine, in all three place HIV+ cases, while high due to population density have decreased since the implementation of comprehensive sexual education (same report).
The “negative behavior” of people wanting to have a relationship with a single partner rather than promiscuous sex? Do you think HIV+ rates would increase or decrease if couples homosexual or heterosexual were in a long term committed relationship with one partner? So why deny homosexuals that right?
My comment on religion is not meant to offend, just to get clarification. Why is it ok to have many wives, but not ok to have one committed relationship between two people that care for each other?
Roughly 2% (about 6.2 million) of the US population is homosexual, if we take into account the amount of of people HIV and take 6!% of that (718,794) from homosexual activity, then we find that roughly 11% of the homosexual community has HIV. If you then narrow that down to people in long term committed relationships that number drops drastically. Statistically speaking HETEROsexual men are also far more likely (3 to 1) to get Herpes, and (6 to 1) genital warts.
There are issues affecting the Homosexual community, but it is a result of stigma and a lack of education. I am a promiscuous heterosexual. I have never had an STD, or gotten anyone pregnant because I use protection, and have parents that respect me and my choices, rather than preach ignorance and intoleranc
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Nov. 30, 2012 at 1:36pmand one more thing. If you believe that infidelity is wrong, and sex before marriage is wrong, why don’t you push the federal government to pass laws against those issues as well? Why is it limited only to homosexuals? Again I am not questioning your morals. You don’t want gay people to be allowed in your church, that doesn’t bother me, but why should the federal government be involved in validating your god’s beliefs.
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2GodBeTheGlory
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:43pm@YourArgumentIsInvalid
“My comment on religion is not meant to offend, just to get clarification.”
“your ignorant churches” first post in response to mine.
“ignorant bigots like you” first post in response to mine.
“makes you look like more of an uneducated bigot” first post in response to mine.
“Just don’t want it to force homophobia into our politics” second post in response to mine.
You have yet to prove your point to the following:
“no one is asking your faith recognize it, or your church to perform the service” I say this is at best misleading
“places that do not teach sex education” I say this is at best misleading
“under George W. Bush they spent those millions on abstinance only education” I say this is at best misleading
“but I am not trying to pick on your faith” Any intelligent individual would believe otherwise
“There are issues affecting the Homosexual community, but it is a result of stigma and a lack of education.” so the homosexuals in California are naked in the streets in full view of children just trying to have a monogamous relationship? This is a good thing for the community? Would you care to calculate the cost in treatment of HIV and other STIs for this type of behavior? Should I be required to pay for the medical services? Should my church? Should I or my church be made to recognize the “marriage” of people with the same sex?
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Nov. 30, 2012 at 3:13pmthank you for addressing none of my facts. I am glad you “think they are misleading” but provide no evidence to contradict them.
I do not think, in light of your replies, about how aids is a direct result of a the gay lifestyle that suggesting you and your particular church are both bigoted and preach homophobia is out of line. Since you addressed none of my statistics, and merely suggested you disagree I assume you concede those points, and will move on to your closing rant.
No one is asking you or your church to honor gay marriage (certain extremists aside) gay people are not “exposing themselves” in the street with greater number than straight people. I too am not a huge fan of naked people in the street. Not all homosexual people are raging sex perverts who rampage naked through your town, just like not all church goers are racist bigots. It is a small section of society. I am not asking you to be accepting just tolerant. You don’t want your church to marry them, you think they are going to hell? ok, but don’t impose your beliefs on others. These are two consenting adults, why stand in their way? The government recognizing their union will not affect your religion denying them this.
still haven’t answered why having several wives, beating them, treating them like second class citizens is ok according to god, but homosexuality isn’t.
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2GodBeTheGlory
Nov. 30, 2012 at 4:22pm@YourArgumentIsInvalid
As you did not answer mine and did not refute what I said, your childish attack is quite reveling. Your facts where proven incorrect. You are either a person who lies to attempt to “get ahead” of an argument, or try to use failed tactics again and again.
You stated that in the high rate of HIV areas that education was the cause and or reason for the rate and that education was only teaching abstinence, your where wrong.
You said that you where not attacking me or my religion, however, you have been proven wrong.
I did provide evidence for each and every “I say this is at best misleading”.
For other consideration:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57551604/nude-friendly-san-francisco-considers-covering-up/
“I do not think, in light of your replies, about how aids is a direct result of a the gay lifestyle that suggesting you and your particular church are both bigoted and preach homophobia is out of line” see http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/ where 64% are homosexual, drug users added. Can you reply as to the amount in dollars that this will cost me and my family in insurance cost increases or in the cost to the taxpayer for government monies? You need to read more completely before making false claims.
As far as you trying to pull out of the bible ideas that are completely incorrect, either put up or shut up. Beware, I have and continue to read the entire bible.
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2GodBeTheGlory
Nov. 30, 2012 at 4:28pm@YourArgumentIsInvalid
Further evidence that this type of life style is INCREASING AIDS infections and not decreasing as you stated:
“In the United States, gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) comprise the group most affected by HIV. MSM is the only risk group in which new HIV infections have been steadily increasing since the early 1990s. CDC estimates that MSM represent approximately 2% of the US population, but accounted for more than half of all new HIV infections annually from 2006 to 2009 — 56% in 2006 (27,000), 58% in 2007 (32,300), 56% in 2008 (26,900), and 61% in 2009 (29,300). Since the beginning of the US epidemic, MSM have consistently represented the largest percentage of persons diagnosed with AIDS and persons with an AIDS diagnosis who have died.”
CDC web site: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/factsheets/highlights_CDC_activities_july_2011.htm
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2GodBeTheGlory
Nov. 30, 2012 at 4:39pmFurther proof of increase HIV and STIs infection rate for homosexual life style.
http://www.thebody.com/content/67321/a-comparison-of-sexual-behavior-patterns-among-men.html
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Nov. 30, 2012 at 5:11pmwe already addressed the CDC study, in fact the numbers you listed were the very same that I used in explaining that 11% figure I used earlier. You argument is tantamount to suggesting that if we get rid of black people we will not have crack addiction.
You ignore my numbers about other STDs that heterosexual people get more than homosexual people. Citing the same statistics doesn’t make you smart, it just proves you haven’t read what I wrote. I went to a liberal school I am in my mid 20s and I assure you in the 90s sexual orientation was not covered in sex ed, we are only now starting to cover it in schools. In 20 years you will see a drastic decline in aids rates among homosexuals.
Just because some gay people in San Francisco don’t wear much clothing, does not mean all gay people are perverts. Again many christians believe in the physical manifestation of evil spirits, that can be vomited out of your body. Does this mean all christians are crazy? NO.
I did not insult god or religion, just you, and your churches interpretation of it. Please find me where in the new testament god outlaws slavery, or wife beating, or polygamy.
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2GodBeTheGlory
Nov. 30, 2012 at 5:45pm@YourArgumentIsInvalid
To see the evidence from the CDC on the increase number of STIs in homosexuals, see my previous post link to the CDC.
RE: “New Testament God”. If you had further education and wisdom, you would know that there are two definitions to slavery. Hint, if you work for someone then you are a slave. I do believe that you are referring to the force version of slavery that is wrong… see Jesus words on the second of the two greatest commandments. The other slavery refers to indentured servitude, what we call a job in today’s language. As for wife beating…. husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the church….. I do not think that anyone will believe that Jesus would beat the church.. You will not find in the bible where God stated that polygamy was his plan for man. Genesis proves that. God made Eve for Adam, he did not create Jane, Alice, Betty, Shelley, and Eve for Adam.
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louise
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:15pmAdd your comments
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Eastinfection
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:23pmFor me, it would kind of depend on the teacher’s intent. 8th grade is probably an OK age to open up this subject matter to classroom dialogue…. but if her intent was to specifically endorse homosexuality rather than provoke a conversation about it then her suspension is reasonably justified.
Also… this song specifically bashes Conservatives and the Bible.. hardly a tolerance- provoking message.
It’s OK if used to spark debate, but not OK if used to promote an individual moral agenda.
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rconder
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:43pmThat’s not true. The government is asking churches to honor gay marriage with the threat of removing their tax exemption as in the case with the Catholic church.
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Balpit
Nov. 29, 2012 at 8:11pm@rconder
These people who demand separation of church and state go nuts when the church gets too close to the state, but say nothing when the state imposes its will onto the church.
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HelloWorld
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:10pmWe would really need to know more about the situation. The video is not that offensive and bullying is very pervasive in Jr. High. If these were seventh graders I would not necessarily complain. 6th grade is a little young. If she has an obvious gay boy or girl in her class this might have been a successful way of dealing with it. I think that this was not handled properly by anyone. Teacher, student or administration
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shimauma42
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:21pmAs a Tax Paying parent, my stance is that public school is for learning EDUCATIONAL subjects, not perverse lifestyle choices!! I want my kid to be able to read, write and do arithmetic, NOT deviant ways of using their private parts!!
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rconder
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:39pmDoesn’t matter who she has in her classroom. Let’s be clear Homosexuality is a moral issue and tolerance and principles should be taught in the home. I said tolerance not acceptance. We all need to tolerate individual choices but we sure as hell don’t have to accept it. What does the gay agenda have to do with math and science etc… Let us discuss this topic with our children and the schools can then focus on education. As far as bullying and hate crimes go their are laws against it so the teacher does not need to take it upon herself to talk about gays. Keep all special intrest agendas out of schools!!! Put Christ back in Christmas and stop being ashamed of our christian beliefs that this country was founded on. Look at your currency “In God We Trust” stamped all over it. We can be proud of American heritage because no other nation has done more for their people than our own. By and large, the majority of Americans believe in Christ and the bible and we all no what the bible says about homosexuality. I’m just saying don’t push it on our children, we will talk with them about our beleifs on this subject in our homes. Knock it off!
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AndYetItMoves
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:51pmMetallicat, Freud has an answer for some of these anxieties that are clearly troubling you. Take a look at his theory of latent homosexuality.
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catty
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:01pmAny rational person would think this is a song about accepting people that are different than yourselves. Not here on the crazy train. And what is explicit in this video?
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denispaul
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:13pmHow about teaching them the3r’s and leave the rest to their parents.
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Locked
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:14pmTerms such as “f a g g o t” and “damn” come to mind.
The song is clearly biased – it singles out “right-wing conservatives” as those opposed to equal treatment for gays, dismisses the Bible as a 3500 year old book, and calls out certain churches as “preaching hate.” I can definitely see a child raised a household that is strictly Christian being upset because they’ve always been taught homosexuality is a sin and now even their teacher is saying they’re bad people.
No offense, but when it comes to the topic of homosexuality, the answer should be “treat everyone with the same respect you’d want shown to yourself. We don’t want bullies no matter who they are.” And that’s it. It’s not the school’s job to promote music passing moral judgments on churches, religions, and political affiliations.
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AvengerK
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:47pmI’ll go one step further LOCKED.
I’d say this is teaching children to hate christians and conservatives and she should be asked why is that being allowed in the classroom? If “no bullying” is what the liberal sow is pushing….then why is she allowing material like this that foments the persecution and disdain of conservatives and christians?
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oneshiner
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:51pmDENNIS PAUL: You’re exactly right. The responsibility of these teachers is to teach the 3-R’s. Leave the social beliefs to the parents to decide.
Reminds me of a teacher in the 6th grade telling some southern kids to stop calling her Ma’am. One mother came down and reamed that teacher out for correction what is considered to be polite in some parts of the Country.
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rconder
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:53pmI think you are confusing acceptance with tolerance. Tolerance says live and let live. Acceptance says I agree with you. Clearly, christians by and large, don’t agree with homosexuality. So…please stop asking us to accept it. The best we can do for you is tolerate it.
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QuincySmith
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:01pm“I don’t think it was thought through” ~~~ She should be fired! Keep your personal views to yourself. She lost two day’s pay – she should be looking for a position that appreciates her vi…oh wait – this is Michigan, sorry.
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vaman
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:59pmHow horrible, a teacher trying to teach tolerance and acceptance. Who ever made the decision to suspend her should be fired. And yes to all the crazy blaze christian extremists, all normal people understand you hate gays, but use the bible and your definition of righteousness to justify your hate and outright bigotry. What a tiny club you all belong to. Now go teach your kids about your loving religion.
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kaydeebeau
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:10pmYou are an idoit – whoever thought that teaching sexual deviance would be accpoted by the general public is deluded. We are not commiited to act upon our every whim – I would very much like to crash my car into every Obama bumpsticker I see – yet I resist – there in lies the solution to perversion – just because it might feel good in the moment doesn’t mean you should give in to the impulse
We all have the ability to overcome our basal desires – time for leftist to practice just a little bit.
Are you an animal that can’t overcome your desires? Oh wait- I forgot about the evolution crowd tath ignore the Truth of Genesis and see humans as just a slight step above apes.
Study your Hebrew
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LakeHartwellSailor
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:13pmIt’s a tiny, exlusive club. You are not invited to join.
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DYNA
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:19pmMaybe this teacher can share her lofty **** ideals of acceptance and tolerance with the Muslim Brotherhood.
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RightUnite
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:24pmExcuse me?? Who the h*ll do you think you are to say what YOU think should be taught in schools?? How about you leave it up to these kids parents. You have absolutely no right to say what should or should not be taught in any d*mn school!
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LasVegasRon
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:38pm@vaman Funny, you leftist trolls always preach about tollerance yet you never practice it.
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DYNA
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:39pm.
Is it OK to use the word hetero? If so, than why not h-mo?
It is certainly not cussing, it is technically accurate. I did not know that being “politically correct” had even reached The Blaze.
I will now rephrase my point.
Maybe this teacher can share her lofty homosexual ideals of acceptance and tolerance with the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Metallicat
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:05pmLeaving religion out of it,even nature deems your lifestyle as defective and useless to our species.
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:48pm@KAYDEEBEAU
I have never had to “deny the urge” or putting something into my rectum because I thought it would “feel good” but that is cause I am straight, If you or a loved on has those urges perhaps you should investigate the possibility that you/they are a homosexual.
Homosexuals do not have to, for instance, deny their urges to have straight sex.It’s not strictly an urge for fornication, there is love there.
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rconder
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:49pmThose with christian beliefs should tolerate those with homosexuality beliefs but there is no way you can get someone with strict christian morals to “accept” homosexuality. It just goes against everything christians believe.As long as you keep telling christian to accept it, you are going to have problems because our beliefs tell us it is a sin and therefore we can accept it as nothing more. Sorry for you Vaman
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TheEDGE
Nov. 29, 2012 at 5:28pmYes, yes! It is a very tiny club with over a billion members worldwide. Oh yeah, and don’t forget about that other religion with over a billion followers, who don’t just merely disagree with your lifestyle, but want you dead. Of coarse, your hatred for anything to do with Christianity keeps you blind to what the muslims have planned for you. Idiots like you won’t last long when the SHTF.
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Virginia Rebel
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:50pmI’m happy those administrators took the steps in the right direction. I’d rather see her fired, but I guess the unions would prevent that. This is not only enticing kids into a perverted lifestyle. It is also lying blatantly to them, for no matter what they try to do to marriage making it “gay marriage,” marriage is and always will be a man and a woman. Anything else is just a lie.
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The_Jerk
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:57pmTeachers are no longer educators. They are union led indoctrinators. Wisconsin and Illinois have proven that to be true. Gimme, gimme, gimme, indoctrinators.
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DoseofReality
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:51pmVirginia – and your entitled to your opinion. If you dont want to recongize gay marriage, then dont do it. Im for small government, obviously you arent. You want the federal government to determine which adults can get married to who…doesnt sound like small government to me. If you dont like gay marriage there is an extremely simple solution….dont get gay married. I know its difficult for people like you to understand but just try it…if you dont like gay marraige, dont get marrried to someone of the same sex. You might want to grab something to drink, take some time and re-read this to fully comprehend the complexity of the situation…I know its difficult.
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JohnnyRaiden
Nov. 29, 2012 at 5:05pmDose~ Government allowing gay marriage does many things, the worst of those things is infringing on the rights of religious groups/businesses to have an opinion of marriage that is different than the government. Examples of this would be christian photog’s,bakers,planners etc currently being sued for discrimination for not providing services to gay couples. The only smart thing to do would be abolish marriage and give civil unions to everyone. Stop being a tool and think.
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freepr008
Nov. 29, 2012 at 6:47pmJOHNNY@ – hey. What happened now with freedom of speech? You are the same who was defending a crappy so called person that harras a little girl his right to speak and act like a ****** because his was entitled to do so? You’re the same who bashed the judge that sentenced that person to one month in jail? Huh? Maybe the teacher was exercising her right of freedom of speech? Ohh.
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Metallicat
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:49pmwhy doesnt she concentrate on teaching the approved course studies instead of trying to use her teaching position as a pulpit to indoctrinate children into liberal social issues? Stop letting your students control the classroom. In performing arts she should be teaching them how to artistically portray a message instead of what the message should be itself. Instead of instructing them into being free thinking creative artists,she tries to program students to carry a message,which takes away an artists free thinking creativity. she should be fired.
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demsrtraitors
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:49pmyou have to ask yourselves, why do so many liberals, gays, pedophiles and other sickos want to work around children? I know they gays say they were born that way and so its normal. well are rapists, pedophiles and serial killers born that way? should they be accepted by society?
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demsrtraitors
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:43pmshe set this up so she can sue and make millions. Liberals will support her. This was no accident or a simple incident.. why anyone would want a liberal around their children is beyond me. I hate to think what liberals will do to Children if they are given total control. There were 2 cities in history that was destroyed because of sickos like them.
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longknifed
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:40pmI remember a couple years ago it dawned on me that in the next few years we will have gay everything – teachers, parents, marriages, teams etc. Why? two words: Lady Gaga. Then after they have trampled on America, they will move on to some other form of perversity to legitimize – bestiality, incest, necrophilia. We can thank the Frankfurt School for this.
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Cavallo
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:00pmPedophilia will be next. They are already talking of removing it as a mental disorder. They’ll likely develop some focus grouped new name for the practice of molestation.
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longknifed
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:26pmBingo. That is correct. Sometimes all the thinking has been done for us years earlier, like classifying all of this degeneracy exactly what it is – aberration.
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Walkabout
Nov. 29, 2012 at 7:16pmPsychologists have theorized that one reason for pedophilia is that some people simple cannot attract someone of their age. So they regress.
Others are chasing use or something “untouched by others”.
Some want someone to dominate.
Other reasons, I don’t know. Almost afraid to ask.
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shakedowncrews
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:38pmDepending on the class, it might not have had any plac in the class. But then, classes are supposed to be a place to open minds and have students think for themselves. The song itself doesn’t sound too extreme, but I learned early on as a teacher that you have to be very careful; seems Americans these days just look for reasons to be offended.
Keep in mind, this can go both ways, folks. I had a black student want to talk about her experience at the Million Man March. She talked about her experience meeting all the “great Democrats” in the NAACP and I asked her if there were any black republicans, she laughed and said “we don’t consider them black”. That got a very interesting conversation going about her own intrinsic biases, and her mind opened up a bit.
So I guess some of you would saythat conversation didn’t belong in class? Are they there to learn to think or just act like robots? As long as the teacher doesn’t impose an opinion, but instead provokes thought, whats the problem?
Oh, maybe the problem is that some of you don’t want students to think; you want them to be automatons, programmed by YOUR particular faction and not challenged to reexamine their own beliefs. That’s the whole basis behind ‘religion’, whether it be the secular religion of the left, the cult leaders of Global Warming, or the cult leaders of Muhammed or Jesus or whatever.
the problem isn’t teachers making kids think; it’s you people trying to keep kids from thinking.
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For my Liberty!
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:50pmOh, yeah…Her “mind opened up a little bit”…*rme* I see no problem talking about “Current events” and politic as long as a teacher does not try to push the kids towards one point of view of the other. HOWEVER. The teacher should be QUALIFIED to do it, because they DO tend to lean the way they believe. As for the story. Myself. I see nothing wrong with what the teacher did as long as it was on SUBJECT—and it looks as if it was NOT. I ALSO think that it is OK to talk about gays and who they are, but IF you do that, you have to provide BOTH SIDES of the story….Gays have HIGH AIDS incidents….and their lifestyle IS PERVERTED. It goes AGAINST everything the BIBLE TEACHES.
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Jenny Lind
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:08pmThere is a point I disagree with you on. I have no roblems talking about race relations,especially if it leads to seeing it is a two-way street. I have no problem with talking about bullying, it is rampant. Anything sexual needs parent consent, period. I disaree with much of what is taught in schools about it, because it is not taught with morality. There are some things that need to be taught and talked about at home. The teacher’s mistake was in not listening to it, and making sure there was some input from parents first. We still are the number one educator of our children and grandchildren, and teachers need to respect the parent’s wishes in this and many other things taught-and there is much I find offensive being taught, like us being an “evil” country, and not recognising Americas a great country that has done much for the world in introducing democracy, and a republic and freedom. In my family (two teachers right now) we are not happy at the way American eceptionalism is not taught. Every day, chidren are taught to “use your head and think about that” in our family and aquaintances and friends, so don’t think they are not challanged just because we disagree with you.
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Micmac
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:10pmAs a teacher (community college) myself at one time, I see what is happening in schools today as abhorrent. There are no civics classes, few history classes, less core classes except for English (so minorities can learn it), and remedial math. The majority of kids coming out of school today are ignorant, can’t speak properly, write properly, or communicate properly. The pack mentality is stronger than even, without individual thought. I remember back in the 70s they introduced Transcendental teaching. If a teacher did a times table matrix vs. word problems, they could get fired. Teachers were forced into lockstep. Progressives were very well on their way to screwing up teaching even then. Let’s talk about race, birth control, abortions, etc. so the state becomes the parent. But for sure, not the basic fundamentals. Scared the hell out of me then, and now look at what we have…masses of ignorant people. Dude, start with the basics and keep your personal agenda out of the classroom. If you want to teach a class on social sciences then do it, but don’t take what time you have to not teach core education. Trophies for all. *sarcasm*
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Cavallo
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:38pmThis has been going on for awhile now. The real unusual part of this is that the Administration acted against the Union indoctrinator. People in the School Admin might be in trouble for bucking the leftist system. This is the new America, where deviant sexual lifestyles should be practiced in the open and pious religious practice must be hidden in a dark bedroom.
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dosdelgados
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:33pmProbably wont be long…the school administration will issue a statement, probably apologizing for acting hastily, and name her Teacher of the Year.
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scott4freedom
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:34pmWay to go school administrators!!! Thumbs up!! Then this So called teacher says, I don’t know why ?
I am in shock! Try your lack of judgement and blantant indoctrination of your 8 th grade students to a life style that is perverted! You deserve to be fired from your job!
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booger71
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:45pmI looked at the words, of course the writers equates skin color to being gay is not a choice. Still only a few scientists are pushing a theory of some non existent gene in someones DNA is the culprit. I guess there must be a bisexual gene too, because most of the “gay” people I have known, seem to brag about having relations with both sexes fairly regularly.
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MIBUGNU2
Nov. 29, 2012 at 8:54pm@BOOGER71
because most of the “gay” people I have known, seem to brag about having relations with both sexes fairly regularly.
Great way to spread HIV, HUH ?? gotta’ love these people !! I shall NOT evolve !!
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Steve28
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:34pmNo, you must force acceptance. It all started with the PC Bull Crap. Sorry, to me marriage will always between a man and woman. I guess if they wish to brand me a hater so be it.
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blackyb
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:30pmShe is lacking in common sense and decency. What is the matter with these people? Are they that evil and crazy?
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Cavallo
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:43pmNo she is following a common curriculum to advance the interests of the State. Sexual deviancy, broken families, mental instability, and reduction in religious faith make for an easily ruled populace.
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toiletclogga
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:46pmWhat’s the matter? To a Liberal, they see nothing wrong with pushing this crap on the youth. Liberalism is a mental disorder! They cannot tell up from down; right from wrong.
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run42k
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:29pmShe knew exactly what she was doing. BTW…the video is gay.
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blackyb
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:28pmThe teacher is dumbfounded because people do not want their children listening to and learning about this perversion. Do they really think people want their children learning to put other people’ provates in their mouth. They are NASTY. Even animals do not do stuff like they do. They may say animals have been known to be gay, but that is nothing but groundwork put out by them to make themselves and their filthy selves look normal.
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Metallicat
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:08pmanimals are not gay. Overpopulation among herd animals (like humans) results in too many males competing with each other over fewer females. The urge to breed is still there,so the sick and the weak of the herd,driven “sexually crazed” by those urges, resort to unnatural methods to satisfy those urges. How many guys were straight before they went to prison,only to be “converted” during their prison sentence? Homosexuality is not natural,and is the domain of the sick and weak.
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shimauma42
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:30pmAnimals cannibalise each other and eat poop. Does that make it ok for humans? Should cannibalism become a lifestyle choice as well, and can the cannibals say they were born that way? Sick and twisted this world has become when this “teacher” ie indoctrinator doesn’t know why normal parents are upset about this perversion being shown in class.
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ZAP
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:27pmsick to moozies on her
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blackyb
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:31pmMany of them excuse themselves from the same behavior.
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ImJusSayin
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:25pmAMEN ! Give those administrators a raise !
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TheEndIsComing
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:37pmNo , give them raise only if they fire her and she is never in the classroom again.
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AvengerK
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:24pmThere’s that magic word again…”Bullying”. The trojan horse for the homosexual agenda in our schools.
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freepr008
Nov. 29, 2012 at 7:14pmSo the solution is accept bullying in schools? Or separate bullying into different classes? Is not bullying to harras someone who seems to be different but if you sound and act like a ” hollier than the pope” and others make fun of you because of it, is bullying?
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AvengerK
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:22pm****** shameless liberals…can’t even let kids grow up to decide for themsevles how they feel about somethin..no..liberalism and it’s cause de jour has to be drummed into their impressionable heads at earlier and earlier stages. They emulate the propaganda tactics from the same nazis they use to denigrate “right wingers”.
You want common sense to gain traction again in this country? Take the schools away from these vile creeps and their “social justice” agendas.
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ModerationIsBest
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:40pmYeah, just like I’m sure religious parents let their kids “make up their own mind.”
They don’t take them to church from a very young age.
They don’t tell their kid the Bible is the word of God
They don’t take them into their room at night and say, “let’s pray.”
I have religious friends who have started talking to their kid as young as age 1 about God, Jesus, etc.
These kids are in MIDDLE SCHOOL. They are free to make up their own mind at this age.
It’s the little kids that are being forced fed this religious nonsense that I’m worried for.
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AvengerK
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:05pmLOL….how moderate of you Orwellianly named MODERATIONISBEST. You let your mask slip again champ.
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Locked
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:07pm@Moderation
Difference being that parents are not public employees. If this teacher was acting outside her the role for which she was hired, it’s natural to reprimand her. She should have listened to the song first; it would obviously offend people. There’s a big difference between promoting equal treatment to everyone and denigrating people who don’t agree with your views.
The lyrics of the song singles out “right-wing conservatives,” religious folks in general, and the Bible in particular. There’s a proper way to teach respect, but this song is clearly intended for a biased audience, not to teach respect for all.
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AvengerK
Nov. 29, 2012 at 3:09pmYou tell me Orwellianly named MODERATIONISBEST….what business does a teacher have making someone’s child listen to pro homosexual propaganda? What education is being furthered by this? Science? Math? Spare me your piety you cretin.
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ModerationIsBest
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:45pm@LOCKED
The content is the material is irrelevant.
I was merely commenting on the hypocritical nature of AVENG in the statement of, “can’t even let kids grow up to decide for themsevles how they feel about somethin..no..liberalism and it’s cause de jour has to be drummed into their impressionable heads at earlier and earlier stages.”
The very core of religion is to indoctrinate your kids into your religion at a young age. You therefore take out the “choice” or “making a decision.”
Again, I have parents who have children, at as young as age one they were talking to them about what the Bible said, about God, Jesus, praying, church. That IS indoctrination. A teacher choosing to play ONE song isn’t indoctrination.
I’m not speaking on the validity of the song, or the lyrics, just how hypocritical religion is when they brainwash their kids at a young age, then when someone shows their child something different they cry “INDOCTRINATION!”
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ModerationIsBest
Nov. 29, 2012 at 4:48pmMeant to say, I have “friends who have kids” not “parents who have kids.”
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The Giver
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:43am@Moderation, parents have a right to teach their children about God. They are the parents. As the child grows, they question things that are related to their parents’ teachings. This is normal.
However, for you to equate the liberal agenda being pushed on the students from the moment they enter the school till they leave six hours later by an unrelated individual is just not well thought out. It is indoctrination. From the ‘I pledge allegiance to the planet’ posters to teaching them about birth control in middle school. There are schools giving birth control pills to 11 year old girls.
Moderate, the government does not own the children. It is not too much to ask that your tax dollars go towards educating your child, not feeding them the lies of the Nanny State.
No child should be bullied, but they are. There have always been bullies. Everyone gets called gay now, even the straight kids. Middle school is by far the hardest. We have to stand against all bullies but the school cannot become the biggest bully.
In a free country, parents still raise their children. Where I came from in Cuba, the state teaches your child to snitch on you.
This action by the teacher may have been a one time thing for her but I can tell you that teachers across the country are INDOCTRINATING the children against free markets, success, faith, and towards more dependency and redistribution of wealth. All tried and true Marxist ideas which have caused the collapse of many countries.
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ModerationIsBest
Nov. 30, 2012 at 10:29am@THE GIVER
They aren’t “teaching” their kid, they are indoctrinating them. They force them to go to church from a young age. They talk about heaven, hell, and force their young children to pray.
They create a life, where EVERYTHING revolves around their religion, so kids aren’t capable of “questioning their parents” without risk of losing everything. Family, friends, community so by the time the kids are able to “choose” they are unable to make a completely balanced choice.
The right is continually living in a world that just doesn’t exist where.
Children are being brainwashed at school
EVERY Non Fox News station is a progressive, baby eating, biased media source
Obama is coming to take away guns(even though Paul Ryan admits that Obama hasn’t proposed any new laws)
Please, come back to reality.
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The_Jerk
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:21pmShould be fired. Teacher, not indoctrinator. Few schools know the difference.
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longknifed
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:38pmwrong. government schools are the definition of propaganda.
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kickagrandma
Nov. 29, 2012 at 2:20pmshe should never have been allowed in a classroom.
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