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Graphic Video: Stunning Moment as Child Is Coached on Self-Flagellation During Bloody Muslim Ritual at Alleged U.S. Mosque

Nov. 30, 2012 10:27am Billy Hallowell

Group Self Flagellation Video Emerges Showing Child Beating Himself

Shia Muslims self-flagellate outside of a U.S. mosque (Photo Credit: YouTube)

On November 24, Shia Muslims around the world observed the “Day of Ashura,” an annual commemorative event during which adherents remember the life and legacy of Imam Hussein, the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad. TheBlaze brought you gruesome footage last Saturday of the mass self-flagellation that some Afghans engaged in to publicly lament Hussein’s 7th century death. Additional clips filled with blood and gore have emerged of similar events that purportedly unfolded in the U.S. as well.

The blog Creeping Sharia posted video of one such ritual that was uploaded to YouTube. While, on the surface, there is little information known about the video concerning when and where it was taken, its contents are certainly shocking. The clip, originally uploaded by a YouTube user named “Maveea,” contains no context or additional information aside from a title that reads, “Ashura in St Louis MO.”

Photo Credit: YouTube

In the video, men are first seen exiting a mosque, while chanting and singing (seemingly in Arabic). The group, which includes children, then makes its way to a grassy area, where some of the individuals remove their shirts and begin beating themselves incessantly. The video continues for more than 12 minutes and concludes with the group walking back towards the mosque.

There are a plethora of actions depicted in the clip, however the most disturbing moments include a child. The boy first appears toward the start of the video wearing a red coat and standing nearby as the adults hit themselves with makeshift whips (it looks as though he, too, has a whip of some sort in his hands — although it is not clear if it is the same as what the adult men use).

Photo Credit: YouTube

Later, the same boy (or another child from the group, as it is difficult to tell baed on the footage) appears to be shirtless, practicing and being coached in how to use the tool on himself and mimicking the men before him:

Photo Credit: YouTube

The video can be viewed in its entirety, below. An adult purportedly coaching the boy in how to use the whip can be watched around the 10:10 point (caution: violence/disturbing):

TheBlaze tried to substantiate that the event was, indeed, recorded in St. Louis, as noted in the YouTube header. As the men emerged from the building at the start of the clip, a number — purportedly an address — appears at the top of the doorway (721).

After a simple Google search, a house of worship called the Shia Islamic Education Center (the Dar al-Zahra Mosque and Education Center) was found (the building is located at 721 Strecker Road in Wildwood, Missouri). Wildwood is a suburb of St. Louis.

Photo Credit: YouTube

Based on construction images of the building, as shown on BaharBastani.com, the outer elements of the house of worship depicted in the video seem to match that of the Shia Islamic Education Center. If, indeed, the building is confirmed, there is still the question of when the event unfolded. While Ashura occurred just days ago, it is possible that this video is older and that it was recently uploaded.

Photo Credit: BaharBastani.com

TheBlaze reached out to the Shia Islamic Education Center to speak about the Ashura event via telephone, but was unable to reach a representative. The local Wildwood police department was also contacted to speak further about the mosque and the Ashura commemoration.

In a phone interview, Media Relations Officer Randy Vaughn said that he could not definitively say that the mosque in the clip is the Shia Islamic Education Center, as he is not located in the Wildwood area (he indicated, though, that he does believe it is the same house of worship). However, he and Capt. Kenneth Williams, who is the local precinct director, both reviewed the footage and determined that the activities surrounding the child are likely legal and covered under religious freedom provisions.

“We both looked at it and said…we don’t think…there is a crime,” Vaughn told TheBlaze. “I didn’t see a crime taking place based on the [legal] books we consult [and legislation].”

While an infraction is not visible in the clip, the media relations officer said that he wouldn’t want his kids to watch such a procession. But his personal views and what’s legal, at least in this case, are not mutually exclusive.

While self-flagellation may seem like a bizarre occurrence to most Westerners, the practice is somewhat common in Shia Islamic circles and is rooted in Hussein’s untimely death. The practice of beating oneself is generally not considered illegal if done for religious reasons, however the presence of children is, to a degree, curious (however, again, not necessarily illegal).

As TheBlaze’s Erica Ritz previous reported, in the 7th century, Muhammad’s grandson was said to have been brutally tortured before being killed; some express remorse for not saving him by inflicting a similar punishment on themselves. Ashura is observed by Shiites throughout the world, though not always in such a bloody manner.

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Comments (277)

Small World
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:49am
Hopefully they will self destruct ! Can you believe they are here ion America ????

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- Go Glenn
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:19pm
  I thought it was entertaining to watch. It would only be better if I were the one doing the whipping.
  
  Morons!!!
  
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- Carol in Indy
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 1:08pm
  Yes, Smallworld it is all very sad that this is happening here.
  But… does anyone think that it is real blood? It looks too perfectly red to me. Dried blood turns to a darker red, Does it not?
  Perhaps we will get lucky and they will just die off but.. they seem to be multiplying very fast.
  
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- glassaudioguy
  Posted on December 2, 2012 at 5:39pm
  The only time they self destruct, at least to any point that matters, is when they’re trying to take infidels out with them. Would that it occur beforehand, but unfortunately it doesn’t.
  
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csbaby
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:48am
Just waiting for the day that all these groups working together to change the world have to determine who wins.

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- another pucker
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:04pm
  I’ve been saying the same thing! For now they just keep using each other.
  
  XOXOXO
  
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- Captain Crunch
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 4:47pm
  If they will do this to themselves they would have no problem doing worse to us. Just remember, it is no sin to put down a rabid dog trying to attack you.
  
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TheOnlyConservative
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:47am
They are almost as bad as the CHRISTIANS that self-flagellate!

Or handle poisonous snakes.

Or beat their children.

Or foam at the mouth while beating rolling around church while talking to God in HIS language.

Or… well, you get the picture.

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- mewnani
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:58am
  There’s bad in every religion or lacktherof. Bad Christians, bad Atheists, bad Muslims; you can’t label just one and consider that one totally evil.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:00pm
  User Profile: TheOnlyConservative
  Member Since: November 30, 2012
  
  Profession: Troll.
  
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- Caballosinnombre
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:02pm
  I don’t know of any church where christians self-flagellate. You may be confusing spanking with beating a child. One is for discipline the other is wrong. I’ve never witnessed one foaming at the mouth while speaking in tongues. As far is snake handling is concerned, thats their business not mine. Anyway, for all these things I’ll let God be the Judge. I don’t plan on strapping on a bomb vest any time soon.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:04pm
  Some Baptists churches handle snakes or speak in tongues even among baptists they are a minority.
  
  What was your point? Was it since you can find 2 or 3 unaffiliated Baptist churches that handle snakes that all Catholics do it too?
  
  Maybe because some churches speak in tongues you believe that all Methodist do this.
  
  Using your reasoning, I can conclude that since so many gays are atheist & anti-church, then from your anti-church comments, you must be gay.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:09pm
  In 2001 there were about 40 small churches
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_handling
  
  350,000 religious congregations in the United States
  http://hirr.hartsem.edu/research/fastfacts/fast_facts.html
  
  The ratio is 4 : 35,000
  
  But among the Shia I can find thousands if not tens of thousands doing this in Iraq, Lebanon & elsewhere.
  
  So what is your point? That you are exactly like a seagull (except for the flying part)?.
  
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- TheOnlyConservative
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:52pm
  Right, but the people here seem to forget that.
  
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- TheOnlyConservative
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 1:07pm
  Wow–you people are unaware that all this self-flagellation is also a Christian practice? Even done by good old Pope John Paul II? (http://articles.cnn.com/2010-01-27/world/pope.flagellate_1_vatican-radio-pope-john-paul-ii-vatican-insider?_s=PM:WORLD and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx0ncps77Ow)
  
  Amazes me how many people point at Islamic practices and label them barbaric, and yet their own religions do the exact same thing…
  
  So I guess everyone who calls these people barbaric and uncivilized for whipping themselves has the same view of the Catholics and Protestants that do the exact sane thing? (Not wanting to be hypocrites, I don’t see how they have a choice!)
  
  Oh, BTW: When Christians do it the official term is “Mortification of the Flesh” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortification_of_the_flesh
- Walkabout
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 2:10pm
  TheOnlyConservative
  
  Wow–you people are unaware that all this self-flagellation is also a Christian practice? Even done by good old Pope John Paul II
  ***
  You have pictures of him beating himself bloody?
  …
  I thought not.
  
  “In actual Catholic self-flagellation, “there is no blood, no injury, nothing to harm a person’s health, nothing traumatic. If it caused any harm, the Church would not allow it,” he wrote on Opus Dei’s Web site when the movie came out in 2006.” -CNN
  
  Try Again Harder.
  
  In my denomination we don’t handle snakes, don’t speak in tongues, don’t flagellate, don’t espouse child abuse, have interfaith dialogue with the local Jewish community going back to 1973.
  
  Now what were you saying troll?
  
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- skiz
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 2:16pm
  There is one little thing wrong with your attack on CHRISTIANS. The one’s you describe might think they are CHRISTIANS, but they are NOT! CHRISTIANS are peaceful, loving and forgiving people. I would never beat my children, I spanked them when they were young, but all that is required now is a look! And I would most DEFINITELY not handle snakes! My saviour does not require me to beat myself or anyone else. Sorry to disapoint.
  
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- Cibolo
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 3:09pm
  Walkabout,
  
  User Profile: TheOnlyConservative
  Member Since: November 30, 2012
  
  Profession: Troll.
  
  I agree 100%
  
  Also, Child Protective Services, (These are the case workers, and then they are not beating themselves they are either selling kidnapped children or molesting them!!!!!!)
  
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- DannyBoy13
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 3:42pm
  I’m a recent convert to Islam and I have a question: Can I behead my daughter straightaway, or is there a waiting period?
  
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- TheOnlyConservative
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 5:02pm
  WALKABOUT
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 2:10pm
  You have pictures of him beating himself bloody?
  …
  I thought not.
  
  —-
  
  Wow, had you followed the links I supplied you would have seen the fact that John Paul’s act of self flagellation was NOT considered weird! One of the people reporting him doing it was nun who was his assistant. Another is a Bishop. He did it before he would ordain priests. That several people were witness to it. That it is a common Catholic practice, and that even Mother Theresa practiced it.
  
  Wow! Those Muslims whipping themselves are as bad as Mother Theresa and Pope John Paul II!
  
  Here are some more links for you to educate yourself with:
  
  http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2010/februaryweb-only/16-11.0.html
  http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-6143579.html
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8375174.stm
  http://wdtprs.com/blog/2009/11/john-paul-ii-flagellation-before-he-ordained-priests/
  http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/International/pope-john-paul-whipped-belt/story?id=9674114#.ULkrm4PAfas
  http://rome-with-a-view.blogspot.com/2009/11/john-paul-iis-self-flagellation-and.html
  http://www.renewedpriesthood.org/ca/page.cfm?Web_ID=1359
  http://www.spiritdaily.net/flogging.htm
  http://whosoeverdesires.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/on-self-flagellation-and-whether-you-can-do-penance-this-lent/
  
  OH, BTW: I made sure a lot of those links are Catholic so you could see how they praised the Pope for beating himself :)
  
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- TheOnlyConservative
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 5:15pm
  SKIZ
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 2:16pm
  There is one little thing wrong with your attack on CHRISTIANS. The one’s you describe might think they are CHRISTIANS, but they are NOT! CHRISTIANS are peaceful, loving and forgiving people.
  
  ===============
  
  I will agree with you that a FOLLOWER of Christ is peaceful and forgiving. But about 95% of all Christians are anything but. Yeah, they claim their religion is peaceful and loving–and on paper it is–but they themselves back wars and the death penalty and favor the Bush doctrine of preemptive wars against all possible threats, no matter how many innocent children get slaughtered in the process.
  
  If Jesus was so furious with the money changers in the temple to whip them, I wonder what he would be angry enough to do to the people that wage war. (Let alone the ones waged in his name!)
  
  Jesus was willing to die on the cross, if you believe the stories, to save our souls. And yet most Christians take that whole “forgiveness and cheek turning” core lesson with as much conviction as a teenager who is told by their parent, “Now no drinking at the party!”
  
  Hypocrites. Who are willing to drop bombs on children as collateral damage. Calling themselves Christians.
  
  So I must disagree with you. The Bible, at least the NT, is peace-loving and forgiving. But Christians? Not even close.
  
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- Leveraction3030
  Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:52am
  Yes I admit as an elder Christian I flalgelate(sp?), but so does Chris Matthews on live TV so I guess it is OK? It happens a lot after I eat beans.
  
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- NOTMYPROBLEM
  Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:10pm
  @THEONLYCONSERVATIVE
  Persons that violate the terms of use are subject to being banned. As your account is exactly one day old, taking into account the nature of nearly all your posts, I am sure that you know all about this policy and have been subjected to it many times. You have been reported for violations of the comment-policy as well as the terms-of-use policy.
  
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- Dr Vel
  Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:54pm
  Only a true psychopath would justify one evil by pointing out another.
  
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DirtyHarry7
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:42am
And these barbarians are being invited, by Diane Feinstein, to come from Gitmo to US prisons to recruit and train more militants?????????????

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- DesertRose1960
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 1:00pm
  The convicted terrorists housed in the Supermax facilities around the country aren’t allowed contact with other prisoners. They spend 23 hours a day in their cells. They are allowed to exercise in a room by themselves. They can’t even look out a window, all the windows allow light in with no view of the outside world.
  
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- whatthecrazy
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 8:02pm
  @ desertrose aww poor murderous babies,hard to feel sorry for animals who kill women and children at will for doing absolutely nothing and i don’t care what religon you are keep you Da$% hands to youself.
  
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- RobbieTLHughie
  Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:43am
  I think the point was, buddy-boy that you were freaking the f*** out in that thread about how they are going to ‘infect’ other prisoners, when someone comes at you with a logical answer to that you change your story, that’s pretty childish.
  
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tnman65
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:37am
Exactly. That is what should be done, but our spineless leaders would never consider doing it.

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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:35am
3rd that !

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RetUSAFVet
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:27am
Officer Randy Vaughn and Capt. Kenneth Williams are cowards of the first class. Their lame excuse that they think this falls under religious freedom is just an excuse to keep themselves from confronting this islamist idiots. The real story here should be “child endangerment” and/or “child abuse”. Where are the do-godder Children Welfare and Family Service people who will come into your home and remove your child because you spanked him/her. This seems to fit in their agenda – but are they, too, afraid of being politically incorrect when muslims are involved? We need police who are willing to uphold the LAW, not cower to the fear of political correctness.

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- hi
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:34am
  I agree. Remember they took that kid because he was too fat, but they won’t take a kid whipping himself to a bloody pulp? Also, this seems like a sure fire way to spread HIV and Hep C.
  
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- chips1
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:36pm
  No doubt about it. I’m going to need a bigger whip!!!
  
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- lpharless2000
  Posted on December 1, 2012 at 5:59pm
  You are correct. Those two are cowards! That being said, there is hardly a sane person in the world not afraid of a Muslim. They have proven time and time again, and continue to do so, that they are cold-blooded, merciless murderers.
  
  You may or may not have noticed the two movies 2012 that came out in the last couple of years? Both showed the descruction of everything on earth, including every religeon, EXCEPT the Muslim faith. When questioned as to why, the studios replied that they, ” . . . didn’t want to make the Muslins mad.”
  
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poker4livin
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:26am
This reminds me of the creepy scene in Indian Jones Temple of Doom right before the guy chanting CALIMAR pulls he heart out of your chest. Is this why Obummer is pushing Healthcare for all so that these devout men can get help on my dime after their own self mutilation? Did your god tell you to do this or for once were you hearing the God telling you to punish yourself?

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WatchingThePuppetShow
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:25am
All in the name of Peace and Love…Friggin’ idiots.

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- marathonman
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 4:35pm
  Bloody idiots!
  
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- lpharless2000
  Posted on December 1, 2012 at 6:26pm
  “Islam, the religeon of peace.” Yeah, right.
  
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Doctor Bulldog
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:25am
Yes, this is the Shia Islamic Education Center in Missouri. However, I think it’s actually in Ballwin, MO. I’ve driven by it on several occasions.

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thegreatcarnac
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:15am
you are right

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- edmundburk
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 6:05pm
  whip it!!………….whip it real good!!
  
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spfoam1
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:13am
If they teach their children to do this, then they teach their children to prepare for violent jihad here in the USA.

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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:33am
  @oldguy49: Roger that!
  
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- kapnkd
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 1:14pm
  Given their religious philosophies and rising trend towards radicalization, your comment is the MOST astute and logical assumption we can gain from this.
  
  Behold – our future terrorists, here in the US, engaging in Muslime/Pislamist “Terrorism 101″ and taught at a local mosque near YOU!!
  
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- lpharless2000
  Posted on December 1, 2012 at 6:10pm
  Of course they prepare their children for violent jiihad here in the USA!!! The goal of Islam is to conquer and takeover the entire world.
  
  What I fail to comprehend is, since America is The Great Satain, and infedels (Americans) why did we ever think it was a good idea to let them come into this country? So they could make more beheadings of innocent Americans and post them on the net?
  
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OurFoundingFather
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:12am
Wtf?

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Displacedsoutherner
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:07am
If Obama had a son he’d be just like the kid in the video.

If a Christian based sect believes public spanking is ok, they’re branded as “barbaric”, but substitute “Muslin” for “Christian” and it’s anything goes from beatings to beheadings…”religious freedom” knows no bounds under the banner of Islam.

Get used to it.

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HairRazor
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:06am
I’ll 2nd that.. Well said.

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HairRazor
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:03am
I want to thank my God, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for being born in the United States of America and to my God fearing parents.. otherwise, that could have been me.

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- Small World
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:52am
  Pray that America will win and stay free.
  
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forthepeople
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:59am
What an IDEOLOGY ( do not even call it the ‘R’ word. !!!
Whip yourself bloody
take 14-year old brides
have your bother & sisters blow them selves up in its name of your cult
treat Women like an consumable
oh and whack peoples head off ………….. I would be so proud of you cult lives .

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bigsdawg
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:57am
What is with the Giant Nipple building?

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- ZAP
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:04am
  it’s to breast feed satan,,,,,,,
  
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- biohazard23
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:05am
  It’s a booby trap.
  
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thetruthlives
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:48am
whip it, whip it real good, whip harder

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dealer@678
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:45am
Dumbasses

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- tuchux
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 2:17pm
  Animals
  
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:44am
Quite barbaric. Keep in mind that self flagellation was a big hit with medieval Christians as well who, mostly, grew out of the practice in time. I personally don’t understand how one can twist a message of peace and love into an edict to harm yourself. If you are to love others as you do yourself, then it seems that flagellation is a firm statement that you despise yourself, and the treatment of others can thus be justified if one treats others cruelly.

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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:33am
  I recall that Christians committed self flagellation during the Bubonic Plague. They thought the end of the world was immenent. Their self flagellation was mimicing Christ’s whipping. They felt closer to God.
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 11:40am
  It’s called being more about self, seeking attention and attempting to absolve guilt via ones own actions than it is devotion to your god. It’s some kind of guilt complex, that’s probably warranted, but a Christian should know that Christ already paid the price. All the Christian has to do is accept the gift, believe, admit the sin, repent and receive God’s mercy. These self flagellation acts only prove they really don’t get it in the case of Christians and in the case of Muslims… There god doesn’t offer such a means of salvation.
  
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- Cronpolis
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:21pm
  These people do not love themselves at all. They love death more than life. That is a huge difference between any other religion and is the most powerful when it comes to war.
  
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- TEXASGRANNY73
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:52pm
  Good point. According to the gospels Saul killed (murdered) Christians before he became Paul and a Christian. How horrible for him to have to deal with the rest of his life. However he was forgiven by God so who judges who?
  
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jerryod1627
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:39am
I’ll bet obama understands and admires all these barbaric rituals!

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- lpharless2000
  Posted on December 1, 2012 at 6:22pm
  All liberal progressives do, not just Obama! Furthermore, the people who see Islam as a threat to world peace, especially ours, are branded “haters, non-educated red-necks, islamaphobes, the radical right, Republicans, etc.”
  
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FaithfulFriend
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:38am
You don’t have to worship satan, to worship satan.

just sayin.

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ellietoo
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:35am
Yeah, lets allow some more multimillion dollar mosques to be built in the US so the “religion of peace” can grow a few more generations of mind controlled murderous children.

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ZAP
Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:35am
Check it out.At 00:40 the tall priest with the brown coat, picks his **** ……

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- RightUnite
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 10:42am
  Gee, ahhh…. I think I’ll pass on that….. Thanks anyway!! Hehehehehe!! Sheeesh!
  
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- M13
  Posted on November 30, 2012 at 12:12pm
  If that was Encinom in that video, you could say he was just picking his brain.
  
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