Popular Christian radio host Frank Pastore has been in a coma in critical, yet stable, condition following a motorcycle accident on Nov. 19. Pastore, who was a professional baseball player for the Cincinnati Reds from 1979 until 1985, is now most known for his radio program on KKLA and for his theological work. This week, 10 days after the accident, his California-based radio station has released what some are calling chilling and prophetic audio from the evening of the crash.
Radio host Frank Pastore (Photo Credit: YouTube)
The recording, put out by KKLA with the blessing of Pastore’s wife, Gina, includes the host talking about the human soul. However, that’s not the part that has people buzzing and curiously wondering if his words prophetically foreshadowed what happened that night. After speaking about science’s attempt’s of late to address the soul, Pastore talks specifically about his motorcycle and the dangers he could face at any moment.
“Isn’t it interesting [that] secular science is addressing the question, ‘Does man have a soul? Is there such a thing as immaterial reality?’ And it’s couched in the category of ‘is there life after death?,” Pastore said.
Photo Credit: KKLA
It is what comes next that will send chills down some listeners’ spines.
“I mean look, you guys know I ride a motorcycle don’t you?,” he asked. “So, at any moment, especially with the idiot people who cross the diamond lane into my lane, alright, without any blinkers, not that I’m angry about it, but at any minute I could be spread out all over the 210 (Freeway), but that’s not me, that’s my body parts. That key distinction undergirds the entire Judeo-Christian worldview and also your pursuit of reality.”
The tragic accident unfolded immediately following the program. Pastore seemingly outlined the very highway that his accident would take place on — and the events leading up to it — just before it unfolded. Later that night, a car sideswiped his motorcycle after the driver swerved into the carpool lane on the 210 Freeway.
Listen to the chilling audio, below:
Pastore’s family is optimistic that he will make a recovery.
“We still have a strong sense that God is doing something. There are so many people praying and being touched by the story,” Gina told The Christian Post this week.
(H/T: Christian Post)
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The Third Archon
Dec. 1, 2012 at 6:53pm“May is the only being with speech. where an exact sequence of consonant and vowels has an exact meaning.”
(1) Language doesn’t have exact meaning, it by nature contains a variable measure of ambiguity as it is a representation of things presumed distinct entities, and so it being not the things themselves, it must be interpreted to attempt to understand the extent of distinct entities indicated by the linguistic gesture.
(2) Language is constructed–there is nothing inherent to a word that makes it signify the range of meanings it does. Instead, it is made and understood in reference to a history of usage to describe individual experiences of more-or-less common phenomena. It therefore reflects the users’ experiences rather than underlying reality.
(3) Language is not unique to humans–some species of primate are capable of learning and understanding the idea of symbolic attachment to meaning as evidenced by their ability to learn and communicate with sign language. We’re BEST as it, but its not unique to us.
“And Man unlike any other being stands “at ease” on two feet. After the age of two, Man rarely gets down on all fours like any other mammal or reptile with four appendages.”
What about T-Rex, all birds, and some species of primate, all of which either walked solely on two feet, or could do so at least as well as us?
“What is it about the soul of Man that makes him so unique??”
(1) Why do you think there is a soul?
(2) Evolutionary biology.
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rickc34
Dec. 2, 2012 at 2:17amOr a God that created everything with a purpose. Why do you attack anothers faith if not for hatred. I do not believe in evolution but I leave a person to their own belief. Your choice. If I am wrong I lost nothing but if you are wrong you have lost everything.
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lobotrojan
Dec. 2, 2012 at 1:48pmfrom wikipedia: “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.” comes from Shakespeare’s Hamlet, Act III, scene II. The phrase has come to mean that a person, like you, can “insist so passionately about something not being true that people suspect the opposite of what one is saying.
No one is going to alter your a theism religion, but be be careful that you don’t slip over the edge of the abyss of delusion
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FCS
Dec. 2, 2012 at 5:59pmBecause in an unguided, meaningless “evolutionary biologic” system, a “soul” is unnecessary and only gets in the way of natural selection and survival of the fittest by allowing for compassion, love and forgiveness, as well as an overall concept of right and wrong. These things have nothing to do with “evolutionary biology” and everything to do with having a “soul” — without a soul; any sense of right or wrong is impossible. The rest of the animal kingdom’s “right and wrong” is driven by “wired” instinct, instinct wired by God (the Great Engineer) so that they can survive…they are not “conscious” of their decision nor are they making it by choice. Human beings are “conscious” of their choices and know right from wrong only by the Spirit of God. Withdraw the Spirit of God and our world comes crashing down. It is not just about flesh and blood and our genetic makeup my friend; there is a spiritual reality that if ignored, will destroy us.
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stealthman
Dec. 1, 2012 at 5:30pmMay Frank Pastore have a full recovery. My G-d, he predicted his accident minutes after his show. I don’t have words to express the horror of this…G-d bless him and his family.
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aurora53
Dec. 2, 2012 at 9:55pmWhy have you left the ‘o’ out of the word God?
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VHVila
Dec. 3, 2012 at 2:39pmI believe omitting the “o” from the word God is an act of reverence to one who is a traditional Jew. Please correct me if my understanding is in error.
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Cottoneyed77
Dec. 1, 2012 at 4:46pmWe don’t have to give YOU “credible or verifiable evidence for our claims”. We believe, you don’t. That’s just fine with me. You leave me alone and I’ll damn sure reciprocate! Can you get that through that big fat leftists head of yours. Ya’ folla’…..
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Cottoneyed77
Dec. 1, 2012 at 4:40pmWhat is it about the word “faith” which sends the haters of Christ into such a state. We believe, you don’t. That’s just fine with me! You go your way, i and mine go our way. I know that we will leave you along, the question is, will you leave us alone. So far, that’s been a practical impossibility. I’m for a complete and total separation. Never the twain shall meet, would be just dandy with me!. I have absolutely NO INTEREST in what you think or say and it’s my most sincere hope that you feel the same way about me. Separation NOW….bye, bye……..
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Cottoneyed77
Dec. 1, 2012 at 2:51pmLet there be a topic which deals with faith, faith and belief in Jesus Christ and it’s SURE to bring out the anti-Christ zealots. Ever ready to pounce on all those who DARE believe! The NERVE! They lie in wait, seething with hatred. It is this virulent hatred for Christ that animates them, gives their lives “meaning” and “completes” them! In all the world, there is no sorrier lot. They fancy themselves as a non believer, but, in fact, they do believe, make NO mistake about that and they do his bidding. And “well”!
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The Third Archon
Dec. 1, 2012 at 3:17pmYeah, the 70-80% majority is SO persecuted! Especially when they are asked to give credible and verifiable evidence for the claims they assert on the basis of which they legislate, or attempt to at least, policy–that’s just the HEIGHT of persecution!
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Cottoneyed77
Dec. 1, 2012 at 2:37pmWithout even perusing the comments, i would have bet there was “one of those”, commenting. Angry, resentful, and really very, very uncomfortable with the notion of faith. And that anyone would live by it. No one bothers or cares what his “beliefs” are, but, boy oh boy, he’s just gotta’ get in the believers face! We just gotta’ know what he’s thinkin’! Here’s a thought, Fan Tan, you live your life, and we’ll live ours. As far apart as possible. A separation so vast and so complete that we NEVER see you, hear you, or know your thoughts on any matter! How’s that sound, Fan Tan! And can we start RIGHT NOW……………………
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angelcat
Dec. 2, 2012 at 7:59amBelieving in God requires trying to live up to what He expects of us. I suspect that many atheists, consciously or unconsciously , resist that responsiblity or simply have too much ego to accept the idea of a superior being. So, rather than going about their way and leaving believers alone, they have to attack them to make themselves feel superior and try to bring get them to abandon their ideas.
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The Third Archon
Dec. 1, 2012 at 2:06pm“Isn’t it interesting [that] secular science is addressing the question, ‘Does man have a soul? Is there such a thing as immaterial reality?’ And it’s couched in the category of ‘is there life after death?,” Pastore said.”
(1) “Secular science” is redundant–there is ONLY secular science, or just science. There’s no such thing as “religious science,” at least not under the same definition of science (i.e. methodological naturalism) as is meant by the term when used by scientists.
(2) Of course science is investigating those kinds of claims–those are the kinds of claims which theists MAKE about the existence and nature of souls, metaphysical realities, etc. I fail to see what the surprise or significance is in investigating claims that have actually BEEN (and are BEING) made and believed by people (as opposed to claims no one has made or shows much interest in).
“…but at any minute I could be spread out all over the 210 (Freeway), but that’s not me, that’s my body parts.”
How do you know that? HEY, I asked you a question! I said, HOW do you KNOW that?! You made an empirical claim, that something DOES in fact exist, what is your evidence for making such a claim?
“That key distinction undergirds the entire Judeo-Christian worldview and also your pursuit of reality.”
Yeah, and now you come to the root of the problem–unsubstantiated metaphysical belief distorting reasoning. Religion is acidic to the foundations of reason.
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Ricardvs
Dec. 3, 2012 at 12:52amThere is a saying fromWWII,
There are no atheists in Foxholes.
the meaning being ‘you will call to God during times of great distress’
If you survive if you continue to believe is another thing.
One could say, “because the Pastor made the drive every day’he had multiple near hits that gave him and accurate incite to the possibility of his own demise.”
If he is a profet or just someone who was static ally astute,
He was in His Foxhole and he remember what he asked, and he continued to believe.
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randycalifornia
Nov. 30, 2012 at 11:31pmKKLA listeners are all praying for Frank and the Pastore family. Father God, we pray that You completely restore Frank back to good health. In Jesus’ name, amen.
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sillyfreshness
Dec. 1, 2012 at 3:07amMotorcycles have absolutely no protection. You are in open air going 65 or 70 miles per hour. If a frickin frog jumps at you, you have a good chance of dying. There was a motorcycle death this Spring where the man and his female rider were both killed after hitting a cement flower box. Had they been in a car, they would have smashed in their bumper, but would have walked away. Motorcycles are death traps. Motorcycle riders are known as organ donors.
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muddpuddle
Dec. 1, 2012 at 9:56amGod has already restored him to perfect health. It’s now down to what his belief system that he built within himself as to whether or not he pulls through
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bikerr
Dec. 2, 2012 at 4:47pm@sillyfreshness—and some commenting here are known as dumb beyond words.–you are dumb beyond words.
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silentme63
Nov. 30, 2012 at 8:58pmWe are living in 2012 and people don’t know if they have a soul? if there is a God?
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The Third Archon
Dec. 1, 2012 at 2:09pmIf you mean “know” in the colloquial sense (i.e. for all practical purposes what the evidence suggest is most likely true), then no, in 2012, we DO know the answers to those questions, some people are just still in willful denial–there is no God, and humans don’t have souls any more than dogs or bacteria do.
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Jarhead 88
Dec. 1, 2012 at 4:15pmTird Archer, when you can figure out how to come up with something from nothing, I’ll look into your silly belief, punk. Until then, stick a sock in it, chump.
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The Third Archon
Dec. 1, 2012 at 4:44pm(1) No one asserts something from nothing–that’s a strawman set up by, mostly Christian, apologists.
(2) Given that the ONLY universe we’ve ever observed is THIS one, and that we can’t even yet explain what occurred in the first Planck time from the Universe’s “beginning” (or what, if anything, existed and occurred PRIOR to this Planck time, if “before” the first measurable Planck time of this Universe is even a meaningful phrase), it’s very premature to claim the Universe either COULDN’T come from nothing, or DID or DID not come from nothing. The fact of the matter is, we don’t have enough evidence to claim we KNOW (in either a colloquial or absolute sense) where the Universe came from–that doesn’t mean we have even a scintilla of evidence, or any more reason in the absence of an explanation, to believe that “God did it” is the answer (or even AN answer). To assert otherwise is the argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy.
(3) By your own logic God, also, can’t be the ultimate cause of the Universe (without invoking special pleading–that is, without granting a special exemption to the the conclusions of your own logic to this entity, God, you’ve inserted as a panacea explanation), because GOD also can’t have come from nothing. Where did God come from? By your own logic there must be an infinite regress of causes, unless you are wrong, in which case there could be an ultimate cause but then there would be no reason it just couldn’t be the universe and not
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Jarhead 88
Dec. 1, 2012 at 5:09pmTird Archer – Nice copy and paste job, sheep. Already have your talking points ready, don’t you kid? Sad fool, you are falling right in line with prophecy and don’t even realize it.
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The Third Archon
Dec. 1, 2012 at 5:25pm(1) On what basis do you think it’s a copy-and-paste? It is true that I am familiar with the kind of “argument” you make, since it’s of the same pathetic and fallacious sort Christian apologists ALWAYS give–so it’s unsurprising that my response should appear organized and thought-out, if that’s what you mean to imply, given that the theists are saying the same old tired nonsense to try to rationalize their baseless as they ALWAYS have, and so I’ve had plenty of time, and multiple occasions, to ponder and respond to this tripe.
(2) Even IF I had cut-and-paste my comment (again, I’d like to know why you think that and from where, since you certainly didn’t say as much), that wouldn’t change the CONTENT of the response, and whether or not it was true–content you’ve conveniently completely ignored.
(3) Even IF your religion turned out to be true, you’d still be the fool, albeit a LUCKY fool, because you’ve offered not a single credible reason to believe there’s even a shred of truth in the claims of your religion, and until you do there’s no rational REASON to believe them which makes you a FOOL for doing so. You can be right by ACCIDENT without ever having had a good reason to make your lucky guess. But no only do I not see any reason for committing the same folly as you, but I see pretty good reasons to suspect you actually will end up being both foolish AND wrong. And I’M the fool for believing what’s most probably true–ha! You’re a riot.
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stealthman
Dec. 1, 2012 at 5:51pmTHIRD ARCHON: I am not a Christian, but I believe in G-d as a Jew believes in G-d. All I can say is to explain the Big Bang when time, space, and matter came into existence at the same moment. The question that you have to answer is how can we talk about such a moment if there was no moment that preceded it? Obviously there has to be an Infinite Being that transcends time, space, and matter. And the Being must be both Infinite and One because as soon as we start postulating two such beings, then neither of them is Infinite.
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stealthman
Dec. 1, 2012 at 6:14pmMay is the only being with speech. where an exact sequence of consonant and vowels has an exact meaning. And Man unlike any other being stands “at ease” on two feet. After the age of two, Man rarely gets down on all fours like any other mammal or reptile with four appendages. What is it about the soul of Man that makes him so unique??
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The Third Archon
Dec. 1, 2012 at 6:41pmHow did you get from “how can we talk about such a moment if there was no moment that preceded it?” to “Obviously there has to be an Infinite Being that transcends time, space, and matter.”?
God can’t have existed forever, since there can’t be an infinite length of time prior to the current moment or else we never would have REACHED it. Therefore, the infinite regress is impossible in my view. Now, my main point was that SO little is known about THE Beginning, that to claim it supports ANY kind of conclusion (i.e. whether there is any physical meaning to the idea of “before the beginning” and whether such a before was possible, or whether any kind of divine entity could or must exist to predicate a beginning, etc.) is tentative at best. However, if I had to hazard a guess, I would say that at SOME point there is probably an ultimate cause (in fact, I suspect it is necessary there be one), however in either case if this is true, it means that either God or the Universe came into existence at some point as the first thing that existed. I see no logical reason that can substantiate a declaration that the Universe couldn’t be the ultimate cause, but God could be. Either neither is sufficient to explain existence, or both could explain it. I am of the latter view, and I find the explanation less God as a premise more plausible and more evidenced.
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stealthman
Dec. 1, 2012 at 6:56pmMy Heavens, what is the evidence that the Universe created itself into existence??
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The Third Archon
Dec. 1, 2012 at 7:09pmWell we don’t have any, any more than we do that God did it. All we know is that a Universe DOES seem to exist, thus at SOME point it must have come into existence (from what we can only guess at currently). On that basis, I’m willing to tentatively say there’s PROBABLY an ultimate cause (rather than an infinite regress). Thus, WHATEVER “caused” the Universe to come into existence as we know it, if it is the ultimate cause, must have simply been the first thing to become, the first “uncaused cause,” with nothing prior (otherwise it wouldn’t, by definition, be the “ultimate cause”). If that’s the case, I see no reason to think a God springing into existence to bring the Universe into existence is any more plausible or necessary than the Universe merely being the first thing to spring into existence in the first place.
As for the evidence for the existence of “uncaused causes,” that comes from quantum physics–insofar as we can tell thus far, some things happen because they just DO, being one of many possibilities that could happen at the time, but mutually exclusive with the alternatives, and thus one of the possibilities DOES happen, because one is BOUND to, but which particular one actually DOES doesn’t seem to have any “cause” that we can observe.
I’m not saying the Universe DID spring into existence from nothing–I’m saying there’s no reason to say we KNOW it COULDN’T, or that a God COULD, or MUST, be involved in causing the Universe.
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tootsie roll
Nov. 30, 2012 at 8:11pmSCIENCE should stay out of this because just like the GOVERNMENT WHENEVER THEY TRY TO HELP OR EXPLAIN THEY MESS IT UP
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The Third Archon
Dec. 1, 2012 at 2:13pmLOL–you’re joking right? You realize science’s quest to meddle in human knowledge is the SOLE reason you are able to type that woefully ignorant comment on your personal computer and have it posted on a website hosted on servers possibly thousands of miles away to be seen by people anywhere on Earth with a computer and internet connection, right?
JUST saying, if you think science (i.e. trying to discover things about reality in a METHODICAL way–you know, as opposed to just making up ******** as we go along and sticking to it obstinately) is so awful, why don’t you go form a hunter-gatherer society?
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judyaz
Nov. 30, 2012 at 8:03pmAlthough we may not always listen to our psyche, we are much more in touch with all than we know. For instance, if forewarned or seeing ahead, it is not destined. We may choose a different path and go around or avoid an event. The same is true for prophecies. They are not “written in stone” but given to warn, so that people may make an informed choice. It is like hearing of something on the news; you can then choose to go around it and avoid it. Or if you see a baseball batted high into the air you can tell where you need to be to catch it. Visualization is something many athletes do well; some have training to heighten that skill. It is anticipation which gives one the edge. So it is true with our “sixth sense” or knowing in our soul. It is part of all life. And if one listens to that quiet place within the mind where God dwells one can receive guidance. We all know that experience when we pick up the phone, just having thought of the person calling. How many times we discount the awareness of our souls and consider it a “coincidence.” But everyone has that gift. Some are more sensitive, some listen better than others. It can be developed like a skill or a talent, but it is born within everyone, as our soul.
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trueblueday
Nov. 30, 2012 at 5:27pmEarlier today before work, a car almost caused a head-on with mine, but swerved back at the last minute. All day at work, the only thing I could think of was… could I arrange my hairdresser to take care of me for my funeral. After work, I was stuck behind a casket hauling truck the whole way home. When I get home, I find a message from the church I thought I might return to. (had a call in to the local church from a MONTH ago thinking that I might convert back to my former religion and return to my “church home”.)
Needless to say I returned a call to that church. There were just too many signs today.
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rickc34
Nov. 30, 2012 at 4:01pmLord you raised the dead, gave sight to the blind and healed the lame and leaper, you walked upon the water, drove demons out and calmed the storm. Lord heal your servant as a testimony of you love and mercy, give strength to his family and ease their troubled hearts
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Jenny Lind
Nov. 30, 2012 at 4:07pmAmen
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Bluebonnet
Nov. 30, 2012 at 5:00pmYES, and Amen!
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Taquoshi
Nov. 30, 2012 at 5:56pmAnd again, Lord, Amen!
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repairsea
Nov. 30, 2012 at 6:13pmAmen
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jdawson
Dec. 1, 2012 at 2:24amAmen, and amen! Lord God, you give take away, but you are always loving and just. I pray that you’d give Frank’s doctors good judgment and skilled hands, that you’d give the nurses and other caregivers discernment. I pray also that you’d give Frank’s family great faith, patience and peace. Lord, if it be in your will, I pray that you’d heal Frank even now. No matter what the outcome I will praise you Lord because you’re good and you deserve our praise.
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Ricardvs
Dec. 3, 2012 at 12:59amAmen
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SDAJumpmaster
Nov. 30, 2012 at 3:31pmI am a committed Christian. I do not, however, subscribe to the idea of an immortal soul as referenced here. First, the Bible says only GOD has immortality. Second, the Hebrew word for soul, “Nephesh,” is used interchangeably for human being, human life, and even animal life. It simply means “life.” When God made man, He formed him from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and “Man became a living soul.” Body + life = soul. The life is Goid’s breath, having no indication whatsoever of consciousness. In fact, whenever someone who has died is referenced in Scripture, it refers to him/her as “sleeping.”
I do believe in Eternal Life: I believe in the resurrection of the body, at the second coming of Christ, when those who have died in Christ shall be raised and we shall be caught up together with them in the clouds. Death is but an interlude wherein we have a dreamless sleep until Jesus comes to take us.
So Frank Pastore, who I watched play ball as a teenager in Ohio, is in a coma. I pray for a full recovery, and if not I will rejoice when I meet him in the clouds after the resurrection.
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DRed
Nov. 30, 2012 at 3:45pmActually, that is inaccurate. We are spirit beings. We have souls (mind, emotions and will) and we live in human bodies. 1 Thessalonians 5:23:”Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
The spirit will live for eternity in the place we have chosen. The soul goes with the spirit. The body returns to dust.
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lildrummerboy
Nov. 30, 2012 at 4:00pmYour comment is contradictory…You believe in eternal life, but you don’t believe in immortal souls? Our souls are eternal and eternity is forever. You soul will last forever, but where you(soul) go after you die is dependent upon salvation, which is why i assume you became a christian.
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WhiteFang
Nov. 30, 2012 at 6:50pmEzekiel 18:4 indicates “The soul that is sinning—it itself will die.”
We all sin, so we all die just as God said to Adam and Eve; from dust you are and to dust you will return.- Genesis 3:19
We do not possess immortality, for our soul (life) dies as a result of our sins..
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Crosswalk777
Nov. 30, 2012 at 7:27pmI guess I shouldn’t be surprised, but I’ve talked with plenty of people who contradict themselves when talking this topic. You say you don’t believe that we have an eternal soul and yet Jesus will be returning with believers who have died. Think about it carefully… Those coming with Jesus will not have been resurrected yet. The resurrection is only for those believers who have died. I Cor 15:I Cor 15:35 “But someone will say, “How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?”… 42 “So also is the resurrection of the dead. ” Resurrection = dead in Christ will be reunited with a new body = resurrection.
How will God deal with those who remain alive when Jesus returns. They will still have their earthly body.
Paul explains all of it in I Cor 15 & U Thess 4. I Thess 4 “…we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede (get new bodies before) those who are asleep (dead). For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with … And the dead in Christ will rise first. NOTE: Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 50 “…. flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep (DIE), but we shall all be changed (get new bodies fit for the kingdom of God) Read I Cor 15 & I Thess 4, you’ll figure it out. Not that
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WhiteFang
Nov. 30, 2012 at 7:55pmCrosswalk,
After a person pays for his sin by experiencing death, in God’s Kingdom, he will be resurrected to experience life anew.
John 5:25 begins this way, Jesus speaking:
“Most truly I say to YOU, The hour is coming, and it is now, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who have given heed will live.26For just as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted also to the Son to have life in himself.27And he has given him authority to do judging, because Son of man he is.28Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice29and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.
Psalms 37:29
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SDAJumpmaster
Dec. 7, 2012 at 11:13amActually Dred, you are reading the Scriptures from your own preconcieved notions. The human being is three parts, Spirit, Soul, Body. The body is the flesh, the “dust” as it were of Genesis 2. The Soul is the personality, the tought processes, which the Bible declares we no longer have after death (“For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten.” Ecc. 9:5). The Spirit is the spark of life, if you will. If the soul is the personality, the spirit clearly isn’t. The life returns to God; it is HIS. No one goes directly to heaven when they die; even David, who God called a man after His own heart, was still dead and buried and NOT in heaven a thousand years after his death (Acts 2:29). After all, Jesus tells us that our reward is eternal life, but He also tells us that we will not receive that reward until He returns (Revelation 22:12) and He Himself called death “sleep” (John 11:11). Paul was specific that death is also sleep and that the resurrection would be the great awakening from that sleep to THEN go to heaven. Please try to put preconcieved notioons aside; I grew up thinking I would go to heaven when I die. After opening my mind and heart to the Hoy Spirit and reading the Scriptures prayerfully I saw what is so very obvious to me now.
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SDAJumpmaster
Dec. 7, 2012 at 11:20amIncidentally, the first lie ever told was that human beings would not die.
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copatriots
Nov. 30, 2012 at 3:15pmWhat is really odd is the name of the helmet! I’m not sure how protected I would feel with a helmet made by “Shoel”.
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SDAJumpmaster
Nov. 30, 2012 at 3:21pmShoel is not the same as Sheol… Sheol is a Hebrew word and has no similarity to Shoel whatsoever. So rest easy…
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njolsson
Nov. 30, 2012 at 3:36pmIt’s Shoei – not Shoel
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copatriots
Nov. 30, 2012 at 3:36pmI know. I realized the misspell and almost corrected my own post immediately after I sent it. It was more fun to leave it and wait to be corrected. ; )
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Clownzilla
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:49pmHe is right about the soul. I find it funny that science is trying to identify something that is most likely outside our realm of understanding. How do you measure something that no tool in human existence has the ability to measure. Scientists think that if God exists he would have to play by the same rules that WE do when in reality we play by the rules that God want’s us to play by. A bunch of our spirituality is based on data that is for God’s eyes only…..until he chooses for us to recognize it in our human existence.
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The Third Archon
Dec. 1, 2012 at 2:17pmIf you cannot discern the existence of the soul through any human faculty, then on what basis do you make the claim that such a thing exists? For you cannot base such a belief on EVIDENCE that you deny existing.
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seek.the.truth
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:34pmMay God keep his hand upon the Pastore family. Praying that Mr Pastore recovers fully and resumes Gods work.
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Detroit paperboy
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:25pmI ride,and I see that a lot……and it scares the hell outa me ! Get well soon…….
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PoliticalHeathen
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:23pmMay your God watch over Mr. Pastore and I will send prayers to my Gods to watch over you and your family as well.
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PurrrpleMtnMajesty
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:22pmOur Lord is no longer whispering, He’s SHOUTING through the words of His Faithful.
My prayers are with Mr. Pastore (pastor for sure, as he is leading the sheep in a most profound way) Also with his family. I pray for a complete recovery & that innumerable numbers of souls will awake & recognize their Creator.
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Jenny Lind
Nov. 30, 2012 at 4:11pmAmen, that is all I can add to this conversation except to remember He is in charge and only He knows the hour of our coming and going, blessed be the name of the Lord.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:19pmMay he have a swift recovery and a full healing Almighty God.
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Landon410
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:17pmthe danger with motorcycles isn’t the motorcycle, its the jag’off in the car in the other lane
prophetic though? no….. sad coincidence? yes
get better soon! and remember to you gremlin bell on your bike (nothing like a little old school motorcycle supersition when talking about God)
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Pray_For_Us_All
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:16pmSad that most people will chaulk this up to a coincidence. I will pray for him and his family.
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Landon410
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:18pmso you think it is prophetic? seriously? this happens everyday to people on motorcycles, just a terrible coincidence
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hpyagl
Dec. 1, 2012 at 12:56pmLondon,
It may or may not have been prophetic, but nothing is a coincidence unless you believe that God has moments when He blanks out for a second or two. Of course, you may not believe in God at all in which case, never mind. Just keep eating, drinking and being all merry and stuff.
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The Third Archon
Dec. 1, 2012 at 2:35pm@HPYAGL
Are you serious?!
“…but nothing is a coincidence unless you believe that God has moments when He blanks out for a second or two”
That’s among the most ludicrous and untenable theological positions I’ve ever heard! So presuming you are a Christian, do you believe in the “three omnis” asserted by most Christian doctrines about God’s nature? That God is “omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent”? How do you reconcile that with a world in which countless children are born, through no one’s apparent fault or conscious action (what common sense would call “unfortunate coincidence or happenstance”), with horrible congenital defects, drug addictions, AIDS or other communicable diseases, that cause intense and constant suffering and result in early death? According to you, it CAN’T be “just coincidence” or “mere chance” in other words–so is your God unable to do anything (or have done anything when He, supposedly, made it) about reality working in this way, does your God not know (or did not foresee) the reality’s operation results in these things occurring, or is your God merely unwilling to do anything about reality resulting in gratuitous and whimsically distributed suffering?
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Pray_For_Us_All
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:15pmAdd your comments
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OLDPAINT
Dec. 1, 2012 at 4:36amYou nailed it, PRAY. I think somebody pulled a Breitbart on him. I used to ride quite a bit, but I hadda sell my Sweetie that doubles as my av now. When I rode, I treated every enclosed vehicle as a potential threat. It’s way too easy to get maimed or killed on a scooter. I used to laugh at those biker exploitation films of the early 70s, or even Mad Max. If you’re in a car ahead of said gang and you see them coming in your rear-view mirror, you have your very own swerve-a-thon and thin their herd out considerably.
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Danzig
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:15pmI ride a Harley and I know exactly what he was referring to with people driving cages. May God bless you Mr Pastore with a speedy and full recovery.
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SonOfThunder
Nov. 30, 2012 at 2:30pmFrank is God fearing brother in Christ….please pray for him.
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