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West Point Chapel to Host First Same-Sex Wedding Ceremony
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The first same-sex wedding ceremony will be held Saturday at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point’s Cadet Chapel, USA Today reported.
Two women, Brenda Sue Fulton and Penelope Dara Gnesin, will exchange vows one year after the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy banning gays from serving openly in the military came to an end.
“We will be the first same-sex couple to wed at the Cadet Chapel at West Point,” Fulton told USA Today in an email Friday night. She is a veteran and the communications director of OutServe, an organization for LGBT military personnel.
The wedding will actually be the second gay marriage held at the New York academy — two of Fulton’s friends married in a small, private ceremony elsewhere on campus last weekend — but the first held at the Cadet Chapel.
Fulton graduated from West Point in 1980 and was named to the West Point Board of Visitors by President Barack Obama in 2011, making her the first openly gay member of the academy’s advisory board.
“West Point has been an important part of my life,” Fulton told USA Today of her decision to marry there, but said it was also because New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie vetoed a gay marriage bill in her home state earlier this year.
Fulton said she and Gnesin always wanted to marry in New Jersey but “we didn’t want to wait any longer,” particularly because Gnesin is a breast cancer survivor and has multiple sclerosis. New York’s state legislature approved same-sex marriage last year.
The Pentagon issued new rules last year allowing military chaplains to perform same-sex wedding ceremonies on or off military installations in accordance with the law and the chaplain’s religious beliefs.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:54amWe’ve had packers in the military since the beginning no ones naive here but the military sanctioning it is another matter entirely,it’s sick. Why join the military if you’re a packer,hell just be a hairdresser or interior designer,work on broadway,something more suitable.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:44amLmao….
Bradley Manning is a perfect example of why gays shouldn’t be allowed in the Military. Not only was he PO’d that his bahavior was unaccepable and not in line with the provisions outlined in DADT, he gave away secrets in retaliation when he was called on those gay activist activities.
Seems that gays… even when given an opportunity to serve “quietly”… will push the envelope and then sell the country down the road on behalf of their sick and twisted lifestyle
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NHwinter
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:45amObama said he was going to transform our country and indeed he has. He has demoralized the right and the left laughs up their rear. The left mocks and jeers and the right is sad beyond words at what is happening. We are being forced to accept sin and laziness. He has divided us with hateful speech and accusations of racism, homophobia, etc. etc. We have high unemployment, highest level of poverty, highest food stamps recipients, lost our AAA standing, housing down, all prices up. But he has succeeded because he got more people on the dole and they voted en masse. We now live in a depraved country. It was, and is, good versus evil. I believe in helping those that are in need, just not taking the country down in the process.
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1947
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:48amIt’s time to CLOSE West Point….
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NHwinter
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:24pm1947 – It time to close Washington, D.C. We’ve lost our Republic.
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Wisdom7
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:27pmPeople talk about progressives, but you can thank radical feminism for screwing up this country even more.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:38pmTime
I believe that Manning’s peers knew he was gay & gave him the cold shoulder socially & at the work place. The latter made it hard for him to do his job. He didn’t persevere but became outrageous or confrontational. Some gays come out & there are no work place problems. But I think there are more situations like Mannings than the military or the gay lobby cares to admit. They don’t all result in retaliation like Mannings, but I bet it impacts their ability to fit in & work.
Manning has not fit in even before he was flamboyant as highschool in Wales. He had trouble when he lived in Oklahoma or Kansas. There was that anecdotal story of the field trip where the teachers worried if he had enough food for lunch. They follow up by say that they dug into their own pockets & bought him some more food & then talked to his parents. Or that some kids shared some of their lunch. I am not of the opinion that at that time preadolescence that they sense he was gay or anything like that. I have not seen a gay gene yet. I think it is more of a kid having to fit in after relocation # (?) & failing. I think this whole gay thing has to do more with psychology & social interactions than genetics. the whole social interaction angle would put some of us or all of us on notice of being guilty of contributing to the gay scene. Once the scene gets going it turns around & bites us in the a_ss ( no pun intended).
Manning is still culpable for his culpable.
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banjarmon
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:56pmA. Back off and let those men who want to marry men, marry men.
B. Allow those women who want to marry women, marry women.
C. Allow those folks who want to abort their babies, abort their babies.
D. In three generations, there will be NO Democrats.
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:57pmThe Israelis have allowed gays to serve openly in the military since 1993. You don’t hear many people call the Israeli army wimpy.
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The-Monk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 1:12pm@SendThe-pant loadiain of turd sized-Meteors
You never answered my reply to your questions on that UK Doctor story.
Why not, friend of SleezyHippo?
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 1:16pmSEND. One word… “conscription.”
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 1:28pmWALK wrote…. “Manning is still culpable for his culpable.”
Yes he is.
So, the question remains…. was / is Bradly Manning a “Gay Hero” or a “Fabulous Traitor.”
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MONICNE
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 1:49pmAvenge RK will not be joining us, he is banned until Monday mid morning.
The W H O PDF materials did not live up to the assertions made by the Daily Mail UK. Those are the facts, regardless of the great wailing and obfuscation, and seeming rescue of the severely outgunned Winkybat team. Anyway the flaccid finger pointer AVENGERK/KREGNEVA will not be joining us. Cur.
Veteran’s Day Every Day, support the Education Center at the Wall!
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rickc34
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 1:49pmBath house Barry strikes again. The first ****-sexual President is pushing his agenda. Attack on the God and Gods rules will take this country down. When evil rules a nation the nation falls , history teachs us that.
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MONICNE
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 2:01pmI would appreciate the opinion of PROGRESSIVES LAYER and WINKYBOUT were they to state their credentials in the Active Duty US Military, ANY Branch.
In the case of the foreign WINKYBAT team, I would even respect the opinion of any of them that served the Queen in a Quasi-Military role, or even while husbanding Welsh JROTC marching band.
And by the way, LAYER CAKE, why would any Green Bay player be kept out of service? You sick…
TEA
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 2:25pmMONICNE, having a difficult time making sense of your postings, but one thing I am sure about. One does not need a military resume to state that gays do not belong in the military. It doesn’t take military experience to know that gays are abnormal; I mean nature made the hardware for a specific purpose, and they don’t use it that way.
Not bad, or good. Just fact. This is not a moral or religious argument. It’s secular. It is in regards to the state and its standards, set by its population.
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MONICNE
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 2:54pmIt is a well kept secret the UK MoD has records that British and Australian Armed Forces are majority bisexual and are on record as constantly relieving their wartime frustrations some say in semi-public orgies according to some with local youngsters present.
They will tell you, there are no perverts in foxholes, however. As long as they fight bravely its none of the Queen’s bloody business.
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Pantloadian
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 3:24pmPRONGSQUEAKER . . . So, the military wouldn’t take you, eh? Had “proclivities” did ya? Yeah, they don’t care so much about that anymore. You should have tried to be less flamboyant. It worked for Lindsay Graham.
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SacredHonor1776
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 3:28pmTotally different world than when George Washington was President;
At a General Court Martial whereof Colo. Tupper was President (10th March 1778), Lieutt. Enslin of Colo. Malcom’s Regiment [was] tried for attempting to commit sodomy, with John Monhort a soldier; Secondly, For Perjury in swearing to false accounts, [he was] found guilty of the charges exhibited against him, being breaches of 5th. Article 18th. Section of the Articles of War and [we] do sentence him to be dismiss’d [from] the service with infamy. His Excellency the Commander in Chief approves the sentence and with abhorrence and detestation of such infamous crimes orders Lieutt. Enslin to be drummed out of camp tomorrow morning by all the drummers and fifers in the Army never to return; The drummers and fifers [are] to attend on the Grand Parade at Guard mounting for that Purpose.- George Washington, The Writings of George Washington, John C. Fitzpatrick, editor (Washington: U. S. Government Printing Office, 1934), Vol. XI, pp. 83-84, from General Orders at Valley Forge on March 14, 1778.
Thomas Jefferson’s laws for Virginia…;
II. Crimes whose punishment goes to Limb 1. Rape,}
2. Sodomy,} Dismemberment.
3. Maiming,} Retaliation, and the forfeiture of half the lands and goods to the sufferer.
4. Disfiguring}
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barber2
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 3:52pmPROG: LOAD”s mom thanks you for giving him a chance to empty his pants.
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encinom
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 4:21pmA coward from the safety of his computer, Progressiveslayer condemns American citizens who served their country exercising their rights.
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longknifed
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 4:22pmThe armed forces have become a social experimentation center. I could never fight for that rainbow division, wondering whether the Mannings of the world would have my back in a firefight or whether they would only stare at it in the latrine.
One of the rare times I disagree with Dr. Paul. The nihilist in me is glad to see Assange introduce world anarchy because revolution can only happen with anarchy, but Manning (kind of a cliche name) is a traitor because nothing good came from his leaks other than the killing off of allied tribesmen and putting American lives at risk.
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CafeConservative
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 4:34pmA coward from his computer? This veteran appreciates Progressiveslayer’s support and defense in trying to keep our military moral. What do you have to offer coward behind your computer? Propaganda it would seem.
And by the way, those who serve this country are serving to defend his right to speak otherwise their service and sacrifice would be in vain and that’s the last thing they want. As opposed to your fictional belief that homosexuality is some “right” that not only exists but must be unconditionally accepted, celebrated, and forced upon the rest of the constituency, Progressiveslayer’s right to speak freely is clearly expressed in the Constitution service members are sworn to protect and defend.
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encinom
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 5:11pmCafeConservative “And by the way, those who serve this country are serving to defend his right to speak otherwise their service and sacrifice would be in vain and that’s the last thing they want.”
What is funny is that homosexual are serving this country to protect the right of Progressiveslayer to spew his ignorant bigotry filled rants against the very people protecting the coward.
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CafeConservative
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 5:30pmSo why are you so upset? If that’s what they’re fighting for, what’s got your panties in such a wad? The fact that PS feels there’s a certain standard that should be upheld in our military which goes back to our founding and Gen George Washington when he himself drummed a homosexual out of the Continental Army?
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 5:42pmPANTLOAD I took the oath to protect and defend the constitution and served very well,and you would know about living in the closet huh? It must have been difficult for you huh pole puffer?
ENCINOM Coward huh? That’s quite an assumption you made there dumb @ss,to make a comment about someone you don’t know. It isn’t bigotry to keep homosexuals out of the military you idiot,it’s common sense,something you do not possess.
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The-Monk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 5:51pm@encinom
Give it a rest Monicne/SleezyHippo troll…..
Encinom spelled backwards is Monicne and Monicne is SleezyHippo….
http://www.theblaze.com/users/sleazyhippo/
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 6:29pmThanks General Petraeus. You set the example by leading from the front, on top, behind and sometimes on your knees I am sure. West Point sure sounds like fun. How do I join this club?
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 6:52pmSTRAWBERRYPACKER I honestly have no idea how you’d join today because in my day the Air Force was run by men I suppose you could get some insight into the ‘new military’ from PANTLOAD,he’s probably bi like Barry.
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 7:11pmThe AIR FARCE? Is that a branch of the military?
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 7:22pmLet me guess you’re Audie Murphy Sgt.York and Chris Kyle all wrapped up in one right? Let’s hear some war stories hero,make it good now.
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 7:29pmI was awarded the Bronze Star with V device when a mortar went off about 400 meters from my hummer: I received the infamous Combat Action Badge for being sent to Iraq and hearing some firing.( I thought about combat aLOT): I received 15 ARCOMS for…well…just cuz. I dated the Superintendant’s daughter while at the POINT (that’s WEST Point to you clueless ones) and ended up as a big general…and then I screwed it all up and got caught with my pants down? Oh wait did you want MY war record? Clerk typist during Vietnam and now I make 6000 bucks a month on disability……..and it’s STILL more than you ever did in the air force!!!!!!!
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 7:39pmActually though I really love the air force. Anytime we needed a ride to the DZ for a drop, you guys gave us a lift. THANKS!!!!!!
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 7:41pmThat was entertaining fiction,you should write for Hollywood and make the big bucks.
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 7:44pmJust messing with you. Thanks for your service.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 7:54pmWe’re good,it was fun and thanks for your service as well.
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Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 7:56pmThis is repulsive. Proof the communists have taken total control of American culture AND the military.
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:31pmWiki says that, “Nations that permit gay people to serve openly in the military include the 4 of the 5 members of the UN Security Council (United States, United Kingdom, France, and Russia), the Republic of China (Taiwan), Australia, Israel, Argentina, and all NATO members excluding Turkey.”
I guess the idea is that having openly gay members of the military weakens them in some way. Tell that to a gay member of the Israeli military, to his face, and see what response you get.
Get over it folks. This is an issue that the younger generation no longer cares about. This issue is no different than historical conflicts about having separate drinking fountains for blacks and whites or the objections against Catholics marrying Protestants. The argument is over. Maybe not for older people who are nearer the grave, but it is for the people who will replace you.
Be against something else. You’ve already lost this battle and it’s pathetic seeing people expending their energy pretending otherwise.
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The-Monk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:47pm@SendThe-pant loadian of turd- Meteors
I had a bunch of younger friends that were gay. Much younger than I.
They’re all dead now. Died of AIDS and HIV. Rotting in their graves I suppose.
Funny how I just keep on living while all you free drugs and sex crowd die off so quickly.
So sad… you guys could have been part of a productive society. Now you are just going to the grave before those much older and wiser.
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The-Monk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:00pm@SendThe-pant loadian of turd- Meteors
BTW, where’s your troll buddy tonight?
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MONICNE
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:08pmHey PROGRESSIVES LAYER -I am glad to hear you served, and thank you for it. My personal opinion of the USAF is forever based on the force and magnitude of the unbelievable feats you accomplished day after night during the Rolling Thunder out of Utapao. I do not like the characterizations you make, but have heard much worse particularly in a zone. Peace … Thought you was jest a loudmouth land lubber.
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MONICNE
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:21pmSpeaking of loud mouthed land lubbers, don’t feed the fair, faxed, troll monk.
(Take 15 seconds to remember the life of an American Vet in your background.)
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The-Monk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:43pm@MONICNus,
Funny, when you click on my name you see The-Monk.
When you click on your name you see SleezyHippo.
You are the troll and the liar…. S L E E Z Y H I P P O. LMAO@U
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Walkabout
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:14pmThe Israelis got whipped by Hezbollah in the 1990s. So has it hurt them? In 1982 they went to Beirut. In the 1990s they didn’t get 1/2 that far & they got chewed up. So again I ask you has it hurt them?
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MONICNE
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:49pmMonk
If you were an objective thinker instead of a mindless sycophant, you would inquire about reasons before jumping on a bandwagon you just aren’t wise enough to understand. This is ultimately why you never seem to “get” that job you deserve so much, but maybe your luck will change. Everyone decent wishes you luck. I have found the harder one works, the luckier one gets.
So far this year I grossed $213,651.40. My family income is in the 2% category.
Please prove I have ever said anything good about the President or Election. Ever. In the years since the Blaze has operated. Just do it. I will freely stand by Proof, but fight mindless BS to the end.
You seem like a nice kid who grew up with the families of career military and government workers and even elected officials and their staff. You were raised with 4% unemployment and possibly you just cannot understand the needy and down & out – many of which are fully capable of becoming makers.
Anyway, I hold you no malice. By the same token I (like Ronald Reagan) will not tolerate a fool.
Peace, hug a Vet.
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The-Monk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:22pm@ SleezyHippo-Monicne,,,,,
“Please prove I have ever said anything good about the President or Election. Ever. In the years since the Blaze has operated. Just do it.”
I have that info at my finger tips. As long as you are talking about the current POTUS and the 2008 and/or 2012 elections. As soon as YOU prove that your are not the “SleezyHippo” troll I will gladly post that info to you.
Your move troll…..
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SUNTZU
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:31pmI now pronounce you lickee and lickor.
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The-Monk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:38pm@SUNTZU
Who?
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vehoae
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:39pmI agree, Progressiveslayer.
What I’m waiting for is DOD’s final decision on the request to permit transexuals’ service files to be expunged of all information concerning their sex-change surgery or progress of their hormone, etc., preparation for the surgery.
Am also awaiting decisions concerning females serving in active combat situations. Will the different services make assignments based what people are now, or what they are in the process of becoming (i.e. preparing for sex-change surgery), or upon what they were prior to sex-change surgery?
And…..I’m awaiting DOD’s final decision on the request made earlier this year to permit cross-dressing within the ranks. So, will men be permitted to attend functions wearing women’s attire? Like ball gowns, or uniform suits of skirts/blouses/jackets? If DOD approves cross-dressing, will “yes sir” and “yes ma’am” be dropped from acceptable vocabulary?
God will NOT be mocked. Lord, come quickly.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 3:45amProgressiveslayer, and all the other naysayers in this thread, have you served?
If not, these gays you criticize have severed their country during a time of war, something you were not willing or capable of doing.
I had a guy in my platoon I’m certain even to this day was gay. He was a cheerleader in college and did it because he loved it, not for the girls. He got out and is now teaching cheerleading. I’m almost certain he’s gay. But you know what? He had my back every day we were outside the wire. He would have drug my mangled body back to base if that’s what was needed to be done. He would have taken a bullet for me. He fought along side me with valor and honor, why does it matter what he does in her personal time or who he decides to spend his life with?
That’s none of my business. All I know is, when the **** hit the fan and the bullets were flying, he had my back and I his. We were brothers and we always will be.
And you know what, it’s none of you business who he goes to bed to at night. To dishonor his sacrifice, his blood and sweet that he put into fighting for this country because YOU think it’s a sin, because your precious bible says it’s a sin, you would dishonor the service of these men and woman who are willing to fight and die for their country, because you think it’s gross and immoral. Well F U C K you!
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MONICNE
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 3:46am@THEM-OINK
You no longer exist. Game over NOVA Bean. Gluck U Velly much. AHOE.
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Obama Been Lauding
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 6:20amThis will be the small crack in the door for beastiality weddings, multiple partner weddings, pedophilia weddings, etc. Where will it stop?
I still think there needs to be uprisings until men and women shower together. After all, normal men and women sexual preference should be viewed the same as a gay man looking at his sexual preference in the nude, or a woman looking at hers.
Why not just have an orgy type showering situation, that way everyone could sing together, and scrub each others backs, or backsides, and save water at the same time??!!
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rickc34
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 9:53amBy allowing them to marry in a military chapel how can they honor God and his word, you cannot serve 2 masters. Like all those that mock God and the Bible they choose the on they will serve Satan.
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SUNTZU
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 11:06amWhat
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db321
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 11:06amSomeone that knows SEND – told me that he picks his nose and eats his booger.
Send is obviously making stuff up as he goes along – so I decided to try a Liberal Progressive Hitler Marxist tactic and make up a lie as well.
The bottom line is that the defender of Israel nether slumbers nor sleeps. Lie all you want! Have as many votes as you want to determine the Capital of Jerusalem. God knows who the Apple of his eye is and Jesus will return to the Temple Mount and will reign for a 1000 years.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 11:08am1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
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Mandors
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:52amThis all part of the concerted effort to destroy our military’s culture and replace it with nothing.
Allowing to foxholes to get married, really inspiring for our normal service men and women.
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neverending
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:21amMakes me more then sick.
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cemerius
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:37amMakes me glad I left before this madness happened!!!
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piper60
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:44amdon’t ask/don’t tell didn’t forbid gays in the ,military. That was the law, by act of congress. Don’t ask/don’t tell was Bill Clinton’s promise to violate his oath of office by refusing to enforce the law, as required by his oath of office.
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4truth2all
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:46amThis indeed will be and is a curse to our military … thanks to obama our “christain” president …
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:08amjeff…….yes…there is something we can do about it and that will happen sooner than later.
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barber2
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:16amJEFF: Oh, you little anarchist you ! Love that destruction thingy , huh ? That is a sign of a severe mental problem which is at the heart of the Obama Left : hate and anger. Very similar to your Blow Up buddies in the Middle East. You are all just filled with destructive hate and anger. Wish we could get you all the mental health care you need…before you all destroy humanity. Sad, lost bunch.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:52amJEFF is correct. Progressivism, Political correctness and debauchery of and for the weak minded in the name of “inclusion” will tear our Military down. JEFF is probably the product of Liberal female castration and will pursue his unich agenda on behalf of his female masters on the left.
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encinom
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 4:18pmAs true gift of this nation, equal rights for all, is being expressed by more and more citizens, fringe christians are upset that their bigotries no longer dominate the law and this nation’s institutions.
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CafeConservative
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 5:18pm“As true gift of this nation, equal rights for all, is being expressed by more and more citizens, fringe christians are upset that their bigotries no longer dominate the law and this nation’s institutions.” Sounds like we have an anti-christian bigot in our midst.
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4truth2all
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 6:18pmYo Encinom:
You really should get a dictionary … there actually are more words in there then bigot.
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iampraying4u
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 7:07pmenough to make you upchuck
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PeachyinGA
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:03pmThe Chapel is the most beautiful building on post (imho). This is sacrilegious. Wonder if the popularity of new 2Lt weddings after graduation will drop off as the Chapel is gradually viewed as just another beautiful building instead of a true Godly place of worship.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:48amThis year the Sylvanus Thayer Award goes to Barney Frank.
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DMENTED
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 3:45pmWhere do you think 0bama keeps his Nobel?
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carl1000
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:44amFunny thing is gays act like they are like everyone else – I agree in some respects, but here is where it ends – there sexual deviancy. Have you ever been to a gay bar or a lesbian bar? Or a gay pride parade? I have been to both. Gay/Lesbian bars make the worst meat market heterosexual bar look like Mr. Rogers house. After going in a lesbian bar I told some girls I know, I don’t ever want to hear how this guy hit on you or said something sexual because these lesbians at these bars are RUTHLESS about wanting sex from each other. I just watched girls hook up all night long and leave with each other. That is ALL it was about. The girl I was with was hit on a ton and in the bathroom was basically molested by some. I have gay friends, love them to death but you will never convince me that two guys doing anything sexual together is normal. Ever. And I am far from a homophobe. If they want to get married and the state says it is OK, I guess they are fine. It is when they start to FORCE clergy to marry gays against the clergy’s will or beliefs. That’s when it ends for me. Personally, marriage is between a man and a woman. Besides adoption, I don’t believe in couples “having” kids and leaving that kid without a maternal mom or a dad – remember they loose one of those when gays “have” a kid. That’s not right.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:56amHomosexuals are developmental aberrations. This is fact. Something crossed the wires, DNA or experience. Like all developmental aberrations, homosexual symptoms are not just restricted to a flaw in attraction. It’s a syndrome, an association of several clinically recognizable features, signs (observed by someone other than the patient), symptoms (reported by the patient), phenomena or characteristics that often occur together.
RobbieTLHughie
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:56amWatch some pornography sweetheart. That’s all well and fine until you realize that heterosexuals do the exact same things.
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:01amI’ll ignore most of this bigoted reply about how gay people are somehow “not like us” because I won’t be able to convince you otherwise, but they “being FORCED” part is just way off. Read the article again, if marrying gay people is against your faith as a chaplain in the military you can say no to marrying the couple. There is no requirement FORCING the chaplain to marry them, it’s IN THIS ACTUAL ARTICLE.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:15amYourArgumentIsInvalid, it’s not bigoted to say that gay people are not like us. It’s fact. So, couch your arguments in some form of reason. Labels are for the weak minded, who lack reason and substance.
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:29amI’m White, are black people not like me?
I mean technically we are all unique, but suggesting that homosexuals go out to fornicate in clubs and just attack each other from anecdotal evidence of what one person perceives. Well it’s the Thomas Friedman school of thinking: “I went to one gay bar where I thought I saw lesbians accosting each other for sex, therefore all homosexuals are sex crazed deviants that are not like us.”
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georgesgirl
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:49amI believe what you experienced in the gay bar is a result of the freedom they feel there. It is the only time they could truly be themselves and just like some of us forget ourselves on vacation, they get a little carried away with the freedom of the bar. I have found that out of the bar, most have completely regular lives and they outgrow the bar scene just like everyone else. I support ss marriage but hate when it is legislated, let it be voted on by the states. I believe the dems pushed the issue in order to get into the LGBT piggy bank.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:58amYourArgumentIsInvalid: “I’m White, are black people not like me?”
They factually are not like you. But, a black man with schizophrenia has the same developmental aberration as a white man with schizophrenia. And, a black “person” has the same rights as all “persons.” Schizophrenics can not serve in the military.
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Favored93
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:02amThe_Jerk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:56am
Homosexuals are developmental aberrations. This is fact. Something crossed the wires, DNA or experience. Like all developmental aberrations, homosexual symptoms are not just restricted to a flaw in attraction. It’s a syndrome, an association of several clinically recognizable features, signs (observed by someone other than the patient), symptoms (reported by the patient), phenomena or characteristics that often occur together.
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Wow jerky boy … Did you actually say something I can agree with?!?!?! I have to write this down on my calender!
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:11amNevermind The_Jerk, I forgot to read your previous insane comment where you go on a hate filled rant suggesting that homosexuality is a mental disorder (something widely discredited in 1974) So I mean there really is nothing to debate. I believe you are an ignorant homophobe, and you probably think something equally hateful of me. Good luck in life. No point to discussing this further.
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Favored93
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:12am@YourArgumentIsInvalid
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:29am
I’m White, are black people not like me? …
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The truth is they are not. They are black you are white. Can you not see a difference? However those differences are the brush stroke of God and it is beautiful! Homosexuality is a perversion twisting and destroying the God instituted family unit that is the back bone of any nation.
What you are foolishly doing here is giving morale equivalency were it is NOT applicable. A black man can not choose one day to be black and the next to be white were as homosexuality by definition is a choice. You can CHOOSE to put your junk were you want it. That is a choice!
Being black or white or yellow is NOT a choice. What the homosexual has done is CHOOSE to engage in immoral behavior and demand that the rest of us tell them it is ok and worse should be taught to our kids. Do you not have any critical thinking skills or do you just make your choices out of emotion alone?
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Favored93
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:17am@Georgesgirl
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:49am
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Marriage is a RELIGIOUS institution and therefore should NEVER allow homosexual marriage.
I would however support civil unions but would and do VEHEMENTLY oppose gay couples adopting children! The perversion of the homosexual can’t be trusted with the innocence of children.
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:36am@FAVORED93
Simply cause I have yet to have yet to have my morning coffee I will engage in this futile exercise.
I am not giving morale equivalency. Through your own suggestion is it then your belief that a Man (apparently we are disregarding that the post was actually about lesbians as was the article) who loves men and wants to have sex with men but chooses to abstain from it there whole life is not a homosexual? Is being gay merely the act of having sex with someone of the same sex, and if that is case should a man who openly states their love for men and desire to only have sex with men but chooses to abstain from it be allowed to serve in the military? Basically is the act of sex what makes someone gay or straight? If that is the case and you believe in no sex before marriage are you not straight until your wedding night?
We will never agree here, so I am just trying to answer questions, to understand your logic. I do not believe being a homosexuality is a choice. Do you believe you chose to be straight? That you chose not to be attracted to people of the same sex (if you are indeed straight) was there a moment where you decided you did not want to be with people of the same sex as you?
I am glad that the same god that tells you to love everyone and judge not lest you be judged tells you also to hate homosexuals, and insult people with differing opinions. Truly Christian of you.
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CafeConservative
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:45am@YourArgumentIsInvalid, obviously you have no idea how the military works or if you do you are conveniently ignoring it.
When leadership expects certain behavior from you, you do it or your career is adversely affected regardless of what the regulations say. That’s why there are concepts like “mandatory fun” (social events you are expected to attend lest you want to be looked down on professionally) and “highly encouraged” (other expectations of a military member that are not “mandatory” but nonetheless would have a negative impact on your career should you fail to comply).
And lets not forget how chaplains are being attacked in the military for not supporting homosexuality. https://www.google.com/search?q=military+chaplains+homosexuals&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
But don’t let facts get in the way of your narrative.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:46amYourArgumentIsInvalid: “Nevermind The_Jerk, I forgot to read your previous insane comment where you go on a hate filled rant suggesting that homosexuality is a mental disorder (something widely discredited in 1974)”
I am holding, in my hand, a textbook written by Lyle E. Bourne, Jr. and Bruce R. Ekstrand, “Psychology: Its Principles and Meanings,” 1976. On page 41, they reprinted the article from the APA Monitor titled, ‘Homosexuality Dropped as Mental Disorder.”
In it, Dr. Robert L. Spitzer, head of the APA Task Force on Nomenclature and Statistics, and the principle author of the revised nomenclature that changed homosexuality from a mental disorder to the new diagnostic category, “sexual orientation disturbance,” conceded that POLITICAL pressure had a lot to do with the APA’s articulation of the new policy.
The American Psychiatric Association, APA, folded to the whims of society and not science. This is why psychiatry is the bastard child of medicine. This is also why I keep old books. People like you can not change the written word that is in hard copy.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:06pmYourArgumentIsInvalid: “I do not believe being a homosexuality is a choice.”
I agree, and I think that the science is moving in that direction. But, it is also true that being schizophrenic or blind is not a choice… on and on with all disorders. And, clearly schizophrenics and the blind have restrictions in society. There is no benefit to society in legitimizing, normalizing, promoting, or protecting homosexual relationships.
Homosexuals can live together, love together, travel together… but, they do not warrant state sanctioning. Nor does mothers marrying daughters… .
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Walkabout
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:41pmFavored93 & The_Jerk
DNA or experience
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They have not found a gay gene. Personally, I think it is experience.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:43pmYourArgumentIsInvalid
Member Since: September 20, 2012
And every post is on a gay story. Between you moniker & posts, which way do you swing?
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CafeConservative
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:49pm“Through your own suggestion is it then your belief that a Man (apparently we are disregarding that the post was actually about lesbians as was the article) who loves men and wants to have sex with men but chooses to abstain from it there whole life is not a homosexual?”
A man who claims to be charitable but refrains from charitable actions is a) charitable b) not charitable?
A man who has murderous impulses but refrains from murdering is a) a murderer b) not a murderer?
A man who has cravings to engage in sexual relations with a goat but refrains is a) practicing bestiality b) not practicing bestiality?
We could go on all day but it’s obvious who is engaged in rationalizing away fact in defense of a position completely based on emotion rather than reason.
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Favored93
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:54pmYourArgumentIsInvalid
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:36am
@FAVORED93
… I am glad that the same god that tells you to love everyone and judge not lest you be judged tells you also to hate homosexuals, and insult people with differing opinions. Truly Christian of you.
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First of all my identity is not in sex but yes I have chosen not to engage is immoral sexual behavior and I choose ever day to love my wife and ONLY her.
I have known a few homosexuals who have CHOSEN to put away their immoral homosexual acts and follow Christ. They have told me that it is a daily fight but all addictions and sin are the same. You have to fight DAILY to put away sin and take up your cross as you follow Jesus.
Second I do NOT hate homosexuals but I do HATE the sin…there are very few things that bind up a person like this one does. It is a trap that very few people get freed from. I am ANGRY a the devil on this one more then others because it is the most destructive thing I can think of both to the people who are trapped and to our country.
And third… The bible tells us we ARE to judge but we are to do so CAREFULLY.
Read 1 Corinthians 5 and come back to me.
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Favored93
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 1:02pmWalkabout
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:41pm
Favored93 & The_Jerk
DNA or experience
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They have not found a gay gene. Personally, I think it is experience.
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Have I given you the impression that I believe you are born Gay? ….
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Walkabout
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 1:03pmYourArgumentIsInvalid
If no chaplain is willing to marry a couple there will be a base commander somewhere in the near future that will pressure a chaplain to do so rather than have a scene. Beyond 06, officers are highly political & have to be because of Congress. They can deflect partisan stances, but that won;t always be easy.
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 1:45pmand now I have had my coffee. Alright I will to respond to the detractors.
cafe
1.) find my an example of a military chaplain that has been discharged for disagreeing to perform a homosexual ceremony? All of your examples cite concerns, HOWEVER none cite actual discrimination.
2.) so it is the act of engaging in sex with a man that makes you gay? OK.
The_Jerk
1.) I am holding in my hand a book on phrenology, YOU CANNOT GET RID OF THE WRITTEN WORD! (well not literally holding in my hand, but you get the idea)
2.) do you believe that blind people should not have the same rights, as people with sight? Please prove that being gay is a hindrance to being a good soldier.
Walkabout
1.) The blaze seems to post a lot of articles that are homophobic of late, so I reply to those.
2.) If you actually read my previous comments than you would know, “which way I lean.” However that has no real relation to the conversation at hand.
There is no “narrative” here, and I know it is easier for you to convince yourselves that everyone is out to attack your religion, or force you to watch gay men make out. This is the same argument people had about civil rights 50 years ago,
Support for gay marriage consistently polls higher than 50%. It’s time to move off of issues like these, and onto actual issues like the economy. There were three articles about homosexuality on the blaze yesterday. The teacher article, the one about S.E. Cupp, and this. Move on, you’ve lost.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 2:14pmYourArgumentIsInvalid, you make this statement, ““Nevermind The_Jerk, I forgot to read your previous insane comment where you go on a hate filled rant suggesting that homosexuality is a mental disorder (something widely discredited in 1974)””
I responded, to YOUR above statement, with the contemporary words of the man that spearheaded that DSM change. He, not me, said that politics entered into the decision to change homosexuality from a disease to a disturbance. He would know. And, they are the facts, not my facts. His words, not mine.
Rather than respond with anything of substance, you become dismissive. You state that there is no narrative, when you really mean, the narrative doesn’t support you fiction.
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 2:59pmThe_Jerk…. I didn’t think you need me to reply to your comment on Dr. Spitzer, he in 1976 wrote that he was wrong in removing it, and did so under political pressure. In 1976 homosexuality was still widely viewed as evil, and abomination. The fact that a prominent scientist (who later went on to apologize for his homophobic remarks/studies http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/2012/04/spitzer-i-owe-the-gay-community-an-apology/ ) suggested that in 1976 he was pressured to abandon the designation, because he had homophobic leanings does not prove your point. This might have been political at the time, in fact I would be surprised if in 70s anything going against the popular belief that homosexuality was a disease wasn’t. However I do not think that makes it wrong. Just cause something is political at the time and later backed up by the vast majority of scientific community including the same scientist that initially stated it was political does not mean it is wrong.
I guess the “narrative” is it is 2012 and we are still talking about sin, god, the devil, and the “disease” that is homosexuality like we are stuck in the dark ages.
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CafeConservative
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 3:27pmI’m sorry that you’re as dense as your are InvalidArgument. You complain that I only showed some “concerns” in my link versus someone being forced out. Again, were you familiar with the way the military works as I spoke about earlier, you’d understand how this process will work. First, military leaders will make it be known what their expectations are (marry gays) and then regulations will be referenced and an acknowledgment will be made that there are no regulations forcing a chaplain to conduct a ceremony but that doing such is “highly encouraged.” When said chaplain refuses on the basis of his religious beliefs which ARE supposed to be protected by regulation, his leadership will then write him a very mediocre performance report. The chaplain will then be passed over for promotion and eventually separated from the military for failing to promote. The blame will be blamed on a lack of performance on his part rather than an outright acknowledgment that he was purposely held back for not performing gay marriages. That’s how the military works. Of course you neither want to hear that or acknowledge it because you have an agenda and ANYTHING that advances that agenda is OK with you so you’ll just continue to rationalize and make excuses. It’s your prerogative and you’re entitled to it and as I’ve seen such dishonesty among homosexuals, I can’t say it’s at all surprising.
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 3:56pm@cafe.
I like your story. I mean there is no evidence to support this other than your argument that this “will happen” note not “has happened.” Again find evidence of this and we can chat. Simply stating “this is how the military works….” isn’t really proof of your point.
In fact the following groups said they will in no way participate in homosexuals marriages; evangelical Protestants, the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, and Roman Catholics. Please find me any evidence that chaplains from any of these groups have been adversly affected by this decision?
In fact numerous complaints have been made about chaplains proselytizing and coercing people in the service into a belief in evengelical christianity. If anything I would argue that Chaplains have far too much religious freedom in the Military.
As such if you would like I will gladly concede the point, and further add that I could not care less if chaplains are forced to perform ceremonies for homosexual couples.
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TheGrtDcptn
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 3:58pmYourArgumentIsInvalid wrote…
‘There were three articles about homosexuality on the blaze yesterday. Move on, you’ve lost’…
You show how blind you are, Christians have lost nothing…but YOU risk losing everything.
Keep looking to fallen man for approval, you (and those who condone) will rue the day.
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longknifed
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 4:27pmHomosexuality is a learned trait. There is nothing “natural” about it. Homosexuality and pedophilia are inseparable. They are simply expressing their uncontrollable urge to be “different.” They yearn to be “special.” They will be bestial next generation have gayness has conquered America. It never ends. It’s just political napalm created by the cultural Marxists of the Frankfurt School. There is no such thing as a gay 5 year old. Children don’t know what sex is.
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CafeConservative
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 5:05pmNo evidence, just 20 years of experience and leadership in the service. The funny thing is the outsider saying I need evidence to prove how things work. Better yet, how about just relying on my experience and seeing it with my own eyes. Anecdotal? Sure. Fact nonetheless? Yep.
And don’t worry Invalid, at some point you and your ilk will push just a bit too far and when the fallout hits you’ll be asking yourself “WTF were we thinking?” but it will be way too late by then.
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 5:14pm@cafe, thanks for your service.
We disagree on the rest. Without proof sadly anecdotal evidence doesn’t really do it for me.
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CafeConservative
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 5:43pmI’m sure you’d be more than happy to cite opinion based on experience from a professional as long as it supported your position. In court, it’s called expert testimony. But when it contradicts agenda, it’s just something to be dismissed.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:17pmFavored
The Jerk said it was a crossed wire, either DNA or social.
I agree. I happen to think it is more experience & stated such.
I did not say that you believed there was a gay gene. My writing was not clear if I left that impression
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:34amQueer academies commission queers to serve. Can military men now wear a woman’s military uniform? Can men now grow their **** long? Can men wear make-up? Are plebes uniforms pink? Guess these issues will be addressed in the new courses.
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RobbieTLHughie
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:57amGlad to see you hate our brave men and women so much, man.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:18amRobbieTLHughie, nothing brave about embracing and normalizing homosexuality. Light in the loafers didn’t come out of thin air.
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neverending
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:32am@THE_JERK – they probably already are. Couldn’t agree with you more!
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barber2
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:59amROBBIE is our Lefty Moral Policeman sent to run the Alinsky Rule 4 and trash Christians ! A rather broken record, but heck, Robbie has a Mission….a dedicated Lefty .
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Favored93
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:22amWow!!! I am SHOCKED that I find myself agreeing with Jerkyboy!
The guy is wrong on everything else but here …. well I guess even a blind squirrel can find a nut… ;)
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RobbieTLHughie
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:06pmlol Do I still get to follow Saul Alinsky if I don’t even know who he is and have never read any of his books?
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DMENTED
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 3:47pmThere ARE no rules, numbnuts. This is war.
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Fubared
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:00pmFavored-
Well said. Jihad jerk ain’t right often; perhaps it’s his creeping sharia with the gay thing.
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HigherRoad
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:33amWell, this pretty much undermines the West Point motto: “Duty, Honor, Country.” Living under the honor code no longer means anything because there is no honor.
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HowTruthHurts
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:57am@HigherRoad
Very well stated. You make perfect sense.
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HigherRoad
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:04am@MODERATIONISBEST: How is homosexual marriage honoring to God or country? Obviously you are blind to the moral decay in this nation. West Point has been one of the Great Institutions of this nation, but they have compromised honor and integrity.
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mercenary4freedom
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:11amI think he makes perfect sense.
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PaxInVeritate
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:19amHIGHERROAD… MODERATIONBEST is a progressive, so pay no mind. Just fast and pray that God through Jesus Christ can open his heart to the Truth before His second coming.
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neverending
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:33am@HIGHERROAD – Yes you make perfect sense,
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Favored93
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:25amAgreed…This is a sad day for me. West Point was one of our last great institutions.
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catty
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:49pmI guess there is no honor for them serving their country, including you, for 25 years.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 4:05pm@HIGHERROAD
First off, how can you honor something that doesn’t exist?
Secondly, how is letting people express their love not honorable?
Thirdly, you are dismissing the sacrifice of the homosexual soldiers in the military.
You and other people here are dishonoring members of the military with your idiotic statements of “deviants” “perverts.”
I am contributing to the moral decay of the country?
You WORSHIP a human sacrifice. That is the EPITOME of no morality. You people are so damn delusional that I really do feel sad for you.
Let’s look at the past “moral decay” of our country.
Burning supposed “witches(btw, witches don’t exist, neither do warlocks or vampires or werewolves).”
Owning other human beings as property
Treating women as second class citizens.
Killing people and taking their land.
All of these things done were by supposed “loving” Christians.
The majority of Americans claim to believe in some kind of God, and the majority of them are Christians……..yet I’M the one contributing to the moral decay?
Please think before you type and remove the rose colored glasses with which you look at society through.
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Wisdom7
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 7:14pm“I am contributing to the moral decay of the country?”
Yes you are. Almost everything you support contributes.
“First off, how can you honor something that doesn’t exist?”
What doesn’t exist? He mentioned Honor in the motto.
“Secondly, how is letting people express their love not honorable?”
Love between couples has nothing to do with military service. You sign a contract and basically belong to the government. Your spouse isn’t included.
“Thirdly, you are dismissing the sacrifice of the homosexual soldiers in the military.”
Are we defining people by sexual preference here and dividing? You are proving his point.
“You and other people here are dishonoring members of the military with your idiotic statements of “deviants” “perverts.””
He has an opinion just like you. Look up the definition of deviant.
“I am contributing to the moral decay of the country?”
Yes you are!
“You WORSHIP a human sacrifice.”
You are seriously mislead. Christians do not worship human sacrifice.
“You people are so damn delusional that I really do feel sad for you.”
One could say you are the delusional one and unable to see it.
“Let’s look at the past “moral decay” of our country. ”
Congratulations, you just mixed a lot of fiction with a fraction of truth to support your ignorance. To claim they were only done by Christians, is asinine. Hey lets go back through history and tal
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Wisdom7
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 7:20pmHey lets go back through history and talk about all the instances of persecution of Christians shall we?
“The majority of Americans claim to believe in some kind of God, and the majority of them are Christians……..yet I’M the one contributing to the moral decay?”
So believing in God causes moral decay
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blanco5
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:28amWill they do beastiality weddings there too? You have to be fair.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:36amThere’s precedent because Barry married a cow.
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RobbieTLHughie
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:57amDUDE PROGRESSIVESLAYER, you SLAY me, lol! See what I did there?
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:15amROBBIE Great do you promise to stay slain?
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booger71
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:18amprogressiveslayer
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:36am
There’s precedent because Barry married a cow.
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After all her name is MOOchelle
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Argo
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:26amWhat’s next? Will we allow cadets to marry thier mothers or fathers? How about thier pets?
Just remember folks, the devil only wants a little bit. Thats all he needs to get a foot hold.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:53amWell I mean, we allow morons like you to marry people, so why not homosexuals?
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barber2
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:17amARGO: Notice the ” moderation” in our Trolls’ comment ?! The name says it all : Just another Big Lie Lefty…
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Favored93
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:28amHe only wants a little bit until next time when he only wants a little bit until next time…
That is why the Bible tells us to stay away from EVEN the appearance of evil! the first time you listen to the devil could be the last time you hear God.
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Chromo200
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:21amNo matter what they call it it is not a marriage in the eye of the Lord. I wonder if they paid to have the use of the chapel. At least if they did we get some money back
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kdshell1
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:14amThis still violates federal law … but who will prosecute?
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YourArgumentIsInvalid
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:04amhow exactly does this violate federal law?
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scrudge
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:11amAh Yes…. who cares ? academy of GIRLEY BOYS
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:36amThe Military Academies have always had their scandals. This is just another scandal in a Long Gray Line of ‘em.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:11amI used to be in a Combat Engineer Battalion in the early ’70′s and we were tasked with running a training program for Cadets in the use of demolitions and other Engineer related tasks (mines, minefields, mine detecting etc).
We called them “Ca-diots” back then… and this just reenforces that moniker.
Also, I was an Army Recruiter back when we asked that all important question in the recruitment application regarding homosexual bahavior. If an applicant even hesitated answer that question as “NO”… I sent them “packing” so to speak… down to see the Navy.
Still love you Navy guys, lol.
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loriann12
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:30amI was Navy from 1984-88. If you were male and hom o sexu al, you got thrown overboard. If you were female, you got promoted. The girls danced slow dance openly at the enlisted club. I quit going to the enlisted club. I asked why the difference, and was told there were too many high up women bent that way.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:01amWere they slow dancing to “In The Navy” by The Village People? Lol.
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Wisdom7
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:36pmAnnapolis is Navy, not West Point.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 1:08pm“Annapolis is Navy, not West Point.”
Nobody is talking about Annapolis… not getting your drift? I mentioned the Navy at the end of my statement comically and it was responded to by a former Navy Vet. Where does Annapolis fit in??
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Wisdom7
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 2:00pmNever mind. I misread the context.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:10amPerversion is what a progressive is all about. Pervert everything. Complete tolerance, just like any dog, pig, or rat.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:24amLet’s not leave out those supposed “freedom fighters” for a new and improved morally banckrupt society… Liberal-tarians. I didn’t get a chance to get back on the S.E. Cupp topic last night, but The Blaze was just chock full of Obama and Gay enabling Liberal-tarians for “the cause” last night.
They state it’s all for liberty and freedom… right up the wazoo.
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amomintexas
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:53amI heard a quote recently that goes along with this…..”Satan doesn’t destroy things, he perverts them.”
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PaxInVeritate
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:57amPROGRESSIVESLAYER… nice to see that you converted to radical Islam. I think that’s how they think and speak about women too.
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RobbieTLHughie
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:58amLiberal-tarians, that’s a really good one. Using political philosophies as insults for people you disagree with.
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PaxInVeritate
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:12amNice. I swear I posted my prior remark on BLANCO5′s thread.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:22amROBBIE wrote… “Liberal-tarians, that’s a really good one. Using political philosophies as insults for people you disagree with.”
Just rollin’ like the “r3volutionary” Liberal-tarians here who bash Republicans/ Conservatives / and anyone who disagrees with their “we know better that you… because we’re the REAL patriots here type of BS, so we give you Obama… again… as punishment mentality.” And gleefully so they add…
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:30amPAXINVERITATE So she can dictate what we eat and have laws created to that affect but little ole me with no power I can’t even insult her? I just get to pay the bills and have my liberties stripped by a woman who read Marx and thought it would be great idea for Amerika,thanks for contributing.
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PaxInVeritate
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:54amPROGRESSIVESLAYER… By all means no. I have the same problem with her that you do. However, dehumanizing any of God’s children because we disagree with them does a disservice to God and ourselves. It is better to fast and pray (and lots of it) for her conversion than to dehumanize her.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:02pmPAX For illustration purposes only: Rape is dehumanizing calling a woman a cow is nothing,perspective,perspective,perspective.
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PaxInVeritate
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:37pmPROGRESSIVESLAYER… In time of war or sometimes arguments, to ‘get an advantage’ over, or make it easier to kill the opponent, use of images or words that portray ones opponents as non-human have been used. For example Joseph Gerbils had posters made depicting Jews as rats and chimps. America had posters of Japanese with exaggerated overbites and slanted eyes in such a way as to depict them as devils/demons. Radical islamists have depicted the Jews like Gerbils, and certain Imams have been caught on video tape describing all non-believers as cattle, cows, property and so forth. Calling a woman, any woman, a cow is dehumanizing that person. A cow cannot be a woman, a woman cannot be a cow. To link the personhood of a woman to a cow is dehumanizing her. Rethink your “perspective” for it does your argument (of not supporting what Michelle Obama is doing, and of which I agree with you) a disservice. This is not semantics.
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Gonzo
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:09amMilitary officers can now be married to a same sex partner, but if a hetero married officer has an affair he or she is drummed out of the military. If the military isn’t regulating morality anymore, that will have to be changed.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:20amThe military just has to return to common sense but with this civilian ‘leadership’ we don’t have to worry about that happening anytime soon G. Barry is bi so this is why the military has this policy,anything goes. Rome was an empire and it died,we’re witnessing our empire dying.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 12:59pmRome died because people did not want to serve in the legion. People would literally cut their right thumb off top avoid military service.
Rome did because rich land owners did not want or would not let workers sign up for the military. Many workers did not wan to go.
Rome died because the elite plotted & connived against one another & used armies in civil wars & stripped the frontiers of forces.
Rome died because its’ enemies became more organized over time & Rome stopped expanding.
The Republic died because the elites used the mob. Think OWS.
America will die for similar reasons. The Republican party can fall apart & yet the elites will still fight. The Clintons & Obama’s are never going to love one another. They’ll pass into history, but that is just one example.
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:08am.
Can someone tell me why I have to be tolerant?………………
God Hate’s America…….
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Gonzo
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:19amNo He doesn’t Monkey, He hates sin. Of course there will be consequences to the sin and some will interpret that as “God hates us”. He’s really just trying to get us to turn away from sin and back to Him. I pray for that to happen, but I am skeptical that it will.
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Scarbo
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:23amHey, Spankdamonkey, how about learning when and when not to use apostrophes. Moron.
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JACKTHETOAD
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:37amHey, moron. How ’bout posting elsewhere?
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:50am.
Will their Strap-on be Military Issue?………
Ya’ll Beat Bama Gonzo……. If Ya’ll lose it might be a sign I’m right…………
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:52amBut I thought your God was loving?
Now he hates?
Your God sounds awfully moody for a supernatural being.
Your God……he sounds so…….human.
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PaxInVeritate
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:40amMODERATIONISBEST…
“But I thought your God was loving?” – He is all Loving to His creation.
“Now he hates?” – Not “now”… “always”, and only the thoughts an actions that go against His will and design for the World.
“Your God……he sounds so…….human.” – Our God through Jesus Christ is both Human and Divine. One nature not subjugated to the other, as in co-equal.
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Jenny Lind
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 10:55amI rarely speak to trolls, but moderation needs a real answer to this last stupid comment. God is not “moody”, He is the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow. Men may think they can get around His laws-which by the way are meant to produce maximum happiness for us-but it usually doesn’t end well for those who try to pervert His law. Nothing you can say negates the fact that intact man, women, children type families are the best to build a country with. They have the plus of having blessings from God for keeping His commandments. Now I realize you will try to rationalise all that away and this comment is wasted on you, but for Spank and Gonzo, who get it, those of us who know the evil being done in MAN’S name, not God’s has consequences, and we are beggining to feel them in the misery of so many people here in this country. Sadly many are being led by the libs view of the world and they have not figured out what is causing all this misery when their leaders are trying so hard to “help” them, and make everything “fair”. At some point many will wake up and go back to the God they used to love and honor, and it may be too late. You see Mod-we who love and listen to the God of this world know the end game and how this ends-which is not well for those anti-God folks. You are following the wrong path, and I have pity for you, and I just want to cheer up Gonz and Spank and remind them it will be OK, God is still in charge, blessed be the name of the Lord.
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barber2
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:08amJENNY: Moderation is a typical Lefty : the name is a Big Lie. It’s comments are totally atheistic and nasty. No moderation .
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 4:16pm@BARBER2
Well of course my comments are atheistic, because I”m an atheist.
Where I exhibit moderation is in that I don’t try to pass laws to ban you from being a Christian.
Despite our disagreements, I could still be your friend(though it’s unlikely that you would ever want to be my friend).
Unlike you freaks on here, my Christians friends don’t sit there and continually make idiotic and hateful remarks and then say “Oh, but we love!”
Btw, your God can’t be “all loving” and “hate” and if he’s “the same now as he was before” then you would be following a lot of backwards stuff before.
I love when people say “it’s humans, not God”
First off, you need to prove a God exists, which you haven’t done
Secondly, it’s HUMANS who interpret the book therefore they’re all I care about and a judge of their supposed God.
Thirdly, it’s downright delusional to say that Jesus was both “God and Man.”
Only a child could accept an obvious contradiction……yet most of you on here seem to act like children, so what’s new?
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Tractorboy
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 6:34pm@Barber, I am so glad there will be a separation from the people like Moderation in the afterlife, because, to deal with the nonsense that comes from Mod. for all eternity, yikes………..Mod. has read the bible it is obvious, but to then purposely and willfully takes it out of context over and over again,………..Here is part of Mod’s post——” Thirdly, it’s downright delusional to say that Jesus was both “God and Man.”——-
For someone to say that about Jesus, the guy who healed the sick, made the blind see, walked on water, brought the dead back to life, walked through a wall and then ate fish, and I’m sure I’m leaving much out about my hero…..Yeah he was just a man (sarc) Yeah he was just a human sacrifice (double sarc)
Then to dare to bore the good Mr. Moderationisbest with our childlike inquiry, Well excuse me, you sir have no evidence it didn’t happen. And offers no scientific support against it, or support for any of the other God created basic elements in our universe. Time, space, matter, life…….for someone who has read the bible as much as he has, it just makes him sound foolish….anyway I’ll leave this alone. God Bless friends even you Mod.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 7:30pm@Tractor
I don’t “willfully” take anything out of context.
Everything I say is in context.
Your viewpoint on humanity is that every single person is born worthy of an eternal torture, and that by only accepting a human sacrifice can they avoid such torture.
That’s COMPLETELY in context and I say that it’s a downright evil and warped way to view the world and even if there was proof of what the Bible said(which there isn’t), I still would choose to not worship a being who is idiotic enough to create that kind of system.
You went and listed a bunch of stuff that Jesus supposedly did, unfortunately, you can’t provide evidence for it. Yes, I can’t provide evidence against it, but we’ve gone through this discussion before.
At least you are honest in your assessment and know that holding that kind of warped “logic” isn’t rational, yet still accept it anyways.
There are plenty of possible scientific explanations for how the universe “started” and then how time “started.”
It’s possible that the makings for the universe always existed(since matter can’t be created nor destroyed) and then the big bang actually started “time.”
Again, at least I am honest and state what I know vs what I don’t know. I also am actively trying and interested in figuring out the truth.
You claim to know the truth, with no evidence and nothing can change your mind.
Who’s being more honest here?
Who’s being more humble?
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Tractorboy
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:23pm@Moderation………Humble, Honest….LOL, I’m glad I didn’t have something to drink, It would have come shooting out my nose when I read that………It’s all perspective I suppose………You seem awfully invested in all this being a Evengelical of Atheism…………seems almost professional, I would dare to think your being paid to do it………well if your not, and this just your hobby, carry on, there is only 2.2 billion Christians worldwide, 1/3 of the population, and growing, you have much work to do on straightening us out. Keep at it, and maybe the Atheists can break thru 2%. BTW 30-40% of scientist believe in God, 76% of doctors…….
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:02pm@TRACTORBOY
You claim TO KNOW how the world was created. You make this claim with NO evidence.
I am claiming that I’m trying to figure out and am actually using evidence to justify my positions.
If you can’t figure out the honest and humble one, I suggest you pop open a dictionary and search for those words and their meanings.
And to your laughable “evangelical atheism”, please.
Everything I say on here is in response to a comment made or article posted.
I don’t go up to random people and say “have you looked at atheism recently?”
I also don’t think people are doomed to an eternity of punishment for not being an atheist.
See the difference?
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:36pm@TRACTORBOY
When asked to prove your claim, you don’t provide evidence.
When asked how you can claim something with no evidence, you essentially say, “well my non evidence hasn’t been proven incorrect yet.”
Surely you can see the silly thinking here.
Can you please also provide where you got the link that said how many scientists and doctors believe in a God?
I have never seen numbers that high except in one poll, which only polled scientists in America not in the world. Most polls I have seen(granted polls in general are hard to go by) that says upwards of 90% of scientists are atheists or at least agnostic.
Also, you said “believed in God.” So you are illogical in thinking that this means your version of God. Surely you don’t care if a scientists or doctor believes in the Muslim God, or Zeus or Thor, right?
There are almost as many Muslims as Christians, so what’s your point? Are you two groups going to destroy the world while fighting over whose God is more powerful?
Christianity is dying, especially here in America. One day hopefully, all people will stop accepting fairy tales as reality and grow up from their childhood.
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PaxInVeritate
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 12:14amMODERATIONISBEST…
“Despite our disagreements, I could still be your friend….” Â Â ”Unlike you freaks on here,…” – Your latter statement belies the former.
As for your desire for “proof of God”… none can be given that you haven’t rejected out right already. From the existence of the universe, uniqueness of our world and all that lies there in, the biological intricacies of the human being, our capacity for exceptionally complex abstract thoughts, our capacity for love, ability to laugh…. The list goes on and on of the “proof” of God which you by your own choice reject. God loves everyone, even the blackest of souls, but He cannot violate the Holy Gift of Freewill. If anyone wishes to shut themselves off from the Love of God that is their choice which, much to His heartbreak (and why He sweated blood in the Garden), he will abide by. You see, He gave us, and only us, the most unique gift out of all His creation. That which exemplifies Himself… Freewill and the capacity to Love.
My fasting and prayers for you.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 1:15am@PAXINVERITATE
The “uniqueness” of our planet?
You are saying that no other planet has ever had life, or will ever had life on it?
Also you are making the mistake(that most children make) that things are “for a reason” vs “they just are.”
Religion makes it seem as if the world was placed here for us, vs what is more likely, that we are here because the world allows it.
Also, the complexity of the human body? We aren’t that more complex than chimpanzees. Have you done any research on what they can do and what kind of thoughts and abilities they’re capable of? Also, the “complexity” you speak of speaks more largely to evolution then it does “poof, now you’re this way.”
Also, for being “intelligently designed” our bodies are VERY flawed.
Look at our appendix, wisdom teeth, etc The only purpose they serve now is to get infected and need to be removed.
Our eyes have natural blind spots
We breath and eat/drink out of the same hole, so naturally a certain number of people choke to death each year.
This is all that your God is capable of? It’s pretty laughable if you ask me.
Do you look at a mountain and think “yup, that mountain came out thin air” or do you think “it took years and years and years for that mountain to slowly form”?
I’m sorry but the “evidence” you listed is really lacking.
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PaxInVeritate
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 3:16amMODERATIONISBEST… by your last post you’ve proven my point that “… none can be given that you haven’t rejected out right already.” Be that as it may…
“You are saying that no other planet has ever had life, or will ever had life on it?” – As far as human beings are concerned, yes… our existence on this world makes it unique. The position of our planet in the solar system to host life, particularly human life, is astronomical. If it wasn’t it would be a common place in the Universe.
“Also you are making the mistake(that most children make) that things are “for a reason” vs “they just are.””  - Nice (condescending statement), but yes I do see order and reason for all things.
“… we are here because the world allows it.” – Huh?? You speak as if the world is sentient. That is Gaianism, which is a religion. That is faith in something. How can you be an atheist making that statement?
On top of that you take a single example of the “complexity of the human body” and project that as if I was only suggesting that alone. Is the body and all that is in the world imperfect? Of course. But again, the reason for that is rejected by you because it will be reliant on Faith to accept the answer.
(cont)
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PaxInVeritate
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 3:22am(cont)
“Look at our appendix, wisdom teeth…” – I can’t.. I had the two that grew removed (yes only two developed). Oh yah… I even had my appendix removed, though that would probably have allowed me to actually look at it if the surgeon put it in a jar for me to keep. Eeewww.
“This is all that your God is capable of? It’s pretty laughable if you ask me.” – Speaking of laughing and loving… you oddly leave those out. Why? Where do we get the capacity to experience these? Why is Love so tangible? Where does it come from?
Do you look at a mountain… to slowly form”? – It took more than “years and years and years”. Eons and eons is more like it.
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Tractorboy
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 5:06pm@MODERATION, sorry about slow return I thought we were done………I say you can’t prove what I claim is not true…….guess what I’m asking for is proof that it’s a made up lie, in court, lawyers and judges prove out the lies in a case all the time, now you will probably come back with the whole it was made up over hundreds of years stuff……..well then, why did so many believe it back then after it happened? at about 150ish AD even the Empire of Rome rejected their Gods, Thor etc. to take Jesus as his lord and savior, along with about I think a million others, this before the bible was complete?
Next my stats. No#s I found for Atheist alone, not Agnostics would be unfair lump to them in with Atheist they haven’t developed what they think one way or the other. No# I get is 1.6% for Atheist in the USA 2.4% worldwide……….For those who believe in God , 76% for doctors, Scientist, depends on field of study, still very high30-40%…..Now doesn’t say which God….Oh here is one of links
http://www.livescience.com/379-scientists-belief-god-varies
Yes the No# of Christians is in decline in America, we are becoming more secular, people are being more selfish, they are chasing stuff, so all in all, do you think there is more peace and happyness in America now? Or do you think the trend going the opposite way, I think it is.
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LaBelle
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:03amDemoralize, demoralize, demoralize, that’s the name of the game.
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DMENTED
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 3:50pmA game that I love to play, too. …heh, heh, heh.
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sexyvixen21
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:56amThey only did it for attention, that’s what all gays do. And, why do they marry (or date) someone that looks just like them???
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wilsonj72
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:09amYour are right! It is the look at me, I have low self-esteem.
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rawmilker
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:46amGeneral Patton is rolling in his grave. Welcome to queer America. These fairy’s are hilarious…..
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:54am@RAWMILKER
Not as hilarious as the fairy tales of religion.
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GuruMeditation
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:56amDisgrace.
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kickagrandma
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:07amYes, it is.
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Need to be FREE
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:55amCan’t talk about Christ our Lord but they can disgrace a chapel in this way. Total disgusting!! What is next poop on alter?
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jcldwl
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:07amYes that is next because they are worshiping bale. And those who worship bale always resort to perverted things with excrement. I so regret having directed my son towards an ROTC scholarship. Now he has to serve in this whacked out army. Oh Lord watch over him and protect him from the perverts he will be serving under.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:30amJCL. Hopefully a good NCO will be watching over him…
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 12:39amBale? There are bale worshipers among us? What do you mean by that? Do they worship a large brick of hay, or do they think that the guy who plays Batman is God?
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Wisdom7
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 12:11pmHe meant Baal or Ba’al.
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cdn1979
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:51amwhat is the issue? if you don’t like it, don’t marry someone of the same gender as yourself. Does a US bullet not go as far anymore? is the armor in a tank or Hum V suddenly not as thick? for a bunch of people who want government out their lives and want their freedom, you sure have no problem restricting the rights and freedoms of others.
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jcldwl
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:12amBy the U.S. Army doing this. It is the government throwing this in our faces and forcing this on us. Of course I guess you can’t comprehend that. If the majority of U.S. citizens don’t want this then it shouldn’t be happening. But you see it is. So don’t tell me about limiting someones freedoms and choices and forcing something they don’t want on them.
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qpwillie
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:20am@cdn1979
You are probably not a believer in the Bible but I’m posting this in the light of the fact that the “wedding” will be held in a chapel. Obama went to school to learn how to use our constitution against us. Yes, they have a constitutional right to do it but…….
1 Peter 2:16
“Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil.”
Galatians 5:13
“You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature.”
1 Corinthians 8:9
Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak.
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JamesGalt
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:21amHomosexuals already have the right to marry. What they are demanding is special protection under the Equal Protection Clause, which is unconstitutional. Changing the definition of marriage is thus unconstitutional.
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 5:49pmJamesGalt
The right to marry someone you love and desire is not equal to the right to marry someone who you can’t love the way they deserve thus ruining both your lives. Gays are asking for equal rights, nothing more, nothing less.
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freepr008
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:15pmJCLDWL@ – Nobody is asking or telling to accept something you don’t want to.
I’m heterosexual. If someone told me to accept a specific social norma or behavior that I don’t agree as my own I simply refuse. The article didn’t said that is obligatory to perform a religious ceremony in the chapels. The chaplain have to agree.
There’s something that I noticed in various comments across similar posts in the past week.
The vast majority is sincerely worried about what is going to happen with the integrity and the sanctity of the matrimony institution. The problem isn’t what is going to happen, but what already been happening. My twelve year old kid told me that one of his teacher make a survey in the classroom to know how many of them lived with both his/her parents. Less than a half raised their hands (my kid included). So whats been happening for the past few decades? We can’t blame homosexuals for this.
They said is a issue of rights. I think the vast majority of them are honest in their claims. If heterosexual marriages (some might said the only one) are not caring enough how we are going to “defend” it?
Churches don’t have to accept married people that they don’t want to as club’s reserve the right of admittance. Freedom of religion is protected by the constitution.
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Bobby D
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:50amTo hell with that place, from this day forward——VOMIT!
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GO-FOR-LIBERTY
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:44amSo sick and so sad.
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JACKTHETOAD
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:51amSo 0bama.
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barber2
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:01amJack : Agree. Another ” fundamental change” for America. Another divisive issue to generate civil unrest and discord. So Obama.
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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:44amOk, those who promote it, and allow it; YOUR sins will fin you out!
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kickagrandma
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:03am“All that is required for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.”
This is wrong. homosexuality IS an abomination to GOD. HE will not overlook this slap in HIS face. By this and other immoral acts, you are removing HIS hedge of protection from our military. By allowing this and all the other satanic crap you’ve put into place in our country there is no way GOD ALMIGHTY can overlook our sins.
“Do not be deceived. GOD IS NOT MOCKED…” Galatians 6:6-10
DEAR LORD, it is so hard to pray for these sick, lost, destroyed souls who continue to flaunt themselves in YOUR face and in ours. Grant us YOUR MERCY as we stand in YOUR HOLY NAME giving you thanks in all things including the vile, sickening destruction of all YOU MADE GOOD AND HOLY BY YOUR GRACE. We know YOU ARE IN CHARGE, LORD. We trust YOU. We pray for YOUR soon return and the opening of more hearts, minds and souls to YOU until that time as YOU continue to call us back to YOU. Tether us to YOU, LORD. In JESUS’ SWEET AND HOLY NAME, amen and amen.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:59amI laugh when you people call homosexuals “deviants” and “perverted.”
You worship imaginary beings.
You think that all people are born worthy of an eternal torture
You think that you HAVE to accept a HUMAN SACRIFICE to avoid the torture.
Yet, this is an “all loving” being.
Give me a break.
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kickagrandma
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:03am@moderationisbs~~~
Funny you continue to **** heads with those who worship THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. You know– no, you probably don’t know — GOD tells us not to throw pearls before swine; if those to whom we go in HIS NAME will not accept us and the message we bring them we are to shake the dust of that place off our feet and go on. Consider yourself shaken off. You argue not with us but with the very GOD WHO MADE and who loves you. GOD IS GOD AND THERE IS NO OTHER. In JESUS’ NAME, amen.
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4truth2all
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:08amYo Mod:
A parable ,,, there is a neighbor who is always doing injustices to YOU. One day this man of injustice is playing with a vipor (as he is also foolish) knowing this viper is deadly and about to strike; at this instant you push him aside and the viper bites you and as is true to the viper you die.
Is this not an act of sacrifical love for one undeserving ?
You “want a break” Jesus is it. It is only good till the viper strikes.
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barber2
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:12amKICK: Unfortunately, ” moderationisbest” does not understand the concept of moderation. Therein lies their dilemma .
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Walkabout
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 1:04pmModerationIsBest
Your mask more than slipped today. Pick up your mask honey, it is on the floor BTW.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 3:59pm@KICKAGRANDMA
Seriously, you sound psychotic with all of your ramblings about “king of kings.”
Go get a mental health screening please.
@Truth
The only thing is, the viper is real :-D
You people are scared of things that aren’t real.
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kickagrandma
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 4:49pm@MODERATE—- We aren’t the ones who are frightened.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 5:38pm@KICKAGRANDMA
Neither am I, because what you speak of doesn’t exist. :-D
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4truth2all
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 6:28pmYo Mod:
A parable: there was a man that said he was not afraid of heights , until he walked off a cliff and one could hear him screeming all the way
d
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:-( ______________________
freepr008
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 7:22pmWatash@ -can you please define the concepts of:
Promoting
Allowing
Sins
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4truth2all
Posted on December 2, 2012 at 8:01amYo Mod:
A parable: There was this guy who said he was not afraid of heights, and then one day he walked of a cliff. One could hear him screaming all the way
d
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n
:-(
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OLDPAINT
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:41amThere’s nothing like having a ringside seat to the decline and fall of Western Civilization. I think I’ll crack open a cold one.
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sdeakins
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:09amSame here.
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JACKTHETOAD
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 9:38amI’ll have a Bloody Mary, myself. …moohaha.
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 11:22amIt will not fall……it may come close to it…but it will not.
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DougHuffman
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 8:38amThese rug-munchers can be left behind. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi – USA.
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DMENTED
Posted on December 1, 2012 at 3:51pmDomine non sum digus…Domine non sum digus…
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