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• IAMIR

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:23pm

  Hmmmmmmm. This thread is a little disingenuous No income tax = HIGH sales tax. They have to get their money from somewhere if they are not an oil producing nation.

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  • soybomb315_II

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:38pm

    sales tax is way better than income tax….Herman Cain/Gary Johnson were the only ones who endorsed fair tax

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  • midwesthippie

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 2:10pm

    …these look like great places for the rich and famous to hang out…or if you work for the FEDGOV Corporation of America…

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  • louise

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 2:15pm

    amen Soy

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  • Gold Coin & Economic News

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 2:20pm

    Even if there aren’t income taxes, a national sales tax is way more fair than a confiscatory tax on wages and money you earn that actually discourages work. Our tax system is screwed and probably not even Constitutional. it is a fraud to help government and the people they serve:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utUR-QybXKU

     

  • longknifed

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 2:25pm

    Its soooooo funny how Beck, Limbaugh and the other hot talkers are begging Republican voters to get into a frenzy about taxes so that they don’t have to surrender any of their multimillionaire income. They trick the workingman into thinking that Wall Street and its Federal Reserve umbilical chord are capitalistic. HA.

    Suddenly everybody is a socialist (a word they learned from a plumber who actually paid attention in his economics class), except for the actual socialists.

    example: “I don’t want government healthcare, so get the government out of my medicare.”

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  • soybomb315_II

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 2:43pm

    @longknifed
    Since November 6, have you seen all the people posting things like “shut it down”?…As if all of our problems started with Obama and could have been fixed by Romney. The irony is that only Ron Paul was willing to shut down the federal beast – but he was just a crazy guy

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  • SREGN

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 2:46pm

    So if there’s no income tax there must be no liberals, right? And minimal government? If you take away the cheese, the rats will leave.

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  • longknifed

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 2:57pm

    my friend,
    these people will NEVER understand. I say we just ditch this echo chamber for good. Ask them what Ron Paul stands for and they’ll tell ya “well I don’t know, but it’s not good.” So many intelligent people need their fix of foolishness. what a shame.

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  • Silvertruth

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 3:08pm

    Sales tax is an economic depression force. If it is leveraged by ITSELF, it is okay, meaning you take home what you earn and all programs are paid for by sales tax. This is actually the best way people can exert control over a government. If they feel it’s getting out of hand, they stop spending for a couple of months and the message gets through loud and clear.

    Sales tax when coupled with other taxes (like Hermain Caine’s famous 9-9-9 plan) is actually a horrific idea. You get the worst of all worlds and there is no counter to the depression effect of the tax. There is also no ceiling that it can’t be raised to along with other taxes.

    We should only have one form of taxation, this multiple stuff is part of why we are in this mess. The Goverments can game the system to their maximum benefit.

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  • desertspeaks

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 3:18pm

    26 U.S.C. § 7806. Therefore, the actual statute commences with “There is hereby imposed .” The imposition of the tax is on taxable income, only, not on any person or entity. In contrast, see 26 U.S.C. § 884, discussed more fully infra, which does impose a tax on an entity. Subtitle A does, however, designate partners as liable for the taxes on income of a partnership, but only in their “individual” capacities 26 U.S.C. § 701 Foreign corporations are specifically designated as the party liable for payment of the Branch profits tax” imposed by 26 U.S.C. § 884 (which, incidentally, does impose the tax on “any foreign corporation).
    The only other party that is identified in the income tax law as liable for the payment of any income tax is revealed in 26 U.S.C. § 1461: Sec. 1461. Liability for withheld tax Every person required to deduct and withhold any tax under this chapter is hereby made liable for such tax and is hereby indemnified against the claims and demands of any person for the amount of any payments made in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.” “This chapter” “Chapter 3 – Withholding Tax on Nonresident Aliens and Foreign Corporations”. Thus the liable party in this instance is anyone withholding tax on nonresident aliens and foreign corporations. There are no other references in Subtitle A (the income tax law) to ANYONE being liable for the tax imposed by § 1 other than those: partners (but only in their “individual” capacity);
    READ

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  • bbyrdhouse

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 4:33pm

    @LONGKNIFED

    Actually, since Nov 8 Rush has been consistently promoting and pushing the GOP to just back away and let Obama and the Dems do whatever they are gonna do without fighting them.
    He asserts (and correctly so) that the Dems and Obama are going to do whatever they want anyway, so why not just back away and let them own it.

    As for Beck, who knows what he is saying, I am not even sure he knows what he is saying.
    Beck is so far behind the curve … 3-4 years behind the curve (IMO)

    The big battle coming is not with the GOP and the DEMs … they are pretty much lockstep with each other. Any battling they do is just for theatre or distraction.
    The big battle will be within the GOP … the Conservative vs. The Progressive wing of the GOP

    Personally, I think this is the perfect time to absolve the GOP.
    Beck was correct when he said the other day that the GOP is going the way of the Whig Party.

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  • ashestoashes

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 4:43pm

    @DEEBERJ I used to be just like you..thinking that God expected us to kill for Israel…Not so!!.. The ones who head up the un Federal Reserve..also head up the Trilateral Commission..the UN..the Council on Foreign Relations.and all the secret Communist Societies..Their plan is well orchestrated..they have been working to overtake the world since the 1700′s…They have instigated and funded all war..they have killed and chosen our presidents..both runners were chosen by them in 2012..They are the propagators of the Luciferian New World Order.. They want massive depopulation..and the UN has issued a report callied “Our Global Neighborhood” and it states that anyone not taking a vow to Lucifer..will not be permitted to enter the NWO..They only want 500 million slaves left to serve them..Rev 2:9 I know you who call yourselves Jews..who are not..but you are the synogogue of Satan.” Israel is run by Communists/Zionists..just as we are.. In the end..even the elect will be fooled..God gathers the nations to go against Israel..Jesus steps in causing a big earthquake causing Israel to be saved..but something happens and only one third will be permitted to enter the millenial kingdom..that being the remnant..Churches have fallen victim to the media just as most Americans have..It is all about control of the masses..

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  • longknifed

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 4:45pm

    I wouldn’t listen to Mr. Rush Republican. At the end of the day, he is only loyal to the Republican Party even more so than Beck. I wouldn’t listen to Beck or any of them. Take his original advice, that he probably took from somebody else, and read original texts without any analyses. We don’t need these clowns.

    Fox/talk radio/weekly standard et all is just one giant industry that only pumps “electable” Republicans to push its monolithic purpose of Israel-wall street. I’ve been in the same room with these people, such as Ann Coulter. believe me, you cannot distinguish them because they are only for their media empire. These people were running scared when Ron Paul got injected into the narrative.

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  • cbrown

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:04pm

    A misleading report. For e.g. Monaco has high social insurance taxes payable by both employer and employee. The employer’s contribution is between 28%–40% (averaging 35%) of gross salary including benefits and the employee pays a further 10%–14% (averaging 13%). A tax based on income but called social insurance tax.

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  • SgtB

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:19pm

    I agree with everyone calling for the fair tax. The fair tax puts all goods sold in the U.S. on a level playing field and our exports (exported tax free) at a more competitive advantage. Since the only real wealth is made is when it is harvested from nature or human labor turns something from nature into a more usable form, exportation is the BEST means to increase a nation’s wealth. Furthermore, it totally guts the IRS and shows people how much they are really paying in taxes. It also gives the individual the choice to cut the amount of taxes they send to the federal government through their own purchasing habits. Everywhere that a tax code similar to the fairtax has been implemented, tax revenue has risen, tax rates have decreased, and prosperity has followed.

    Oh, and for the record, Herman Cain was originally for the Fair Tax until the elections, at which point he just wanted a ruse to try to gain popularity with a seemingly “simple” tax system. Unfortunately, he gave up on the correct course of action and lost his entire base; which sat back and called him a dunce for denouncing one of the few reasons that his base wanted him in office.

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  • Nehemiah6.3

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 9:13pm

    Everyone on the left keeps screaming “tax the rich”, well, ok then, eliminate the income tax and charge only sales tax. The rich buy more stuff, so, they would pay more money to the government. That would be the fair way to do it.
    There is a reason why these places have photos of beautiful places like these, the rich go there and spend money. they pay sales tax.

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  • rovinrobin

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 9:45pm

    Yeah, this article is a little misleading. I live in Qatar right now, on temporary assignment. No income tax, true, but the sovereign oil (gas, rather) wealth pays for a lot. Cost of living is high here, and they have to import all their food in the Land of Sand.

    They also have a lot of “fees”. There is no free market here, there is only what the Sheiks allow, price controls on everything. The Blaze has not done well by posting this article.

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  • Secret Squirrel

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 9:46pm

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    There are some **** holes that have no income tax also because there is no way to collect from peasants.
    Think Somalia has an income tax?
    Notice the rich countries also have no entitlements and standing armies either.
    When the Maldives have an earthquake, they just wait for us to show up and save their lame a$$es.

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  • hallkbrdz

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 10:07pm

    Sales tax is the way to go. Tax NEW durable goods at 25%. Used is free. That’s it.

    You make $100 – you keep it and invest it how you wish (other than state and local taxes). No paper work, no tax day, no headaches from the IRS. Bliss.

    Note: This doesn’t hurt poor people – as most items they need are neither new or not durable (food, fuel, services, etc.). But it does bring in income from illegals, drug runners, and people who can currently afford expensive accounting tricks (the wealthy). Win-win.

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  • black9897

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 10:10pm

    How about they get their money the way the rest of us get it…VOLUNTARILY.

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  • JohnnyinthePedros

    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:23am

    so which of these countries have anything resembling gun rights?

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  • Hawk69

    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 4:11am

    Ron Paul is a blame America and Israel firster and an islamic appeaser. His message of peace though weakness is retarded. He should lead code pink or go to the nursing home.

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  • Bum thrower

    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:24am

    Consumption tax is the way to go; income taxes arer desisgned to probibit wealth; I like no buy; no pay. Its called the “PROGRESSIVE’ INCOME TAX. Get it?

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  • toomuchgovt

    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:57am

    The problem with “income tax” is that not everyone has an “income”. When a tax on income becomes too burdensome, people stop working, it is easier and more prosperous to live off the state, federal hand outs. Hence what is happening in USSA. Look at the states in america that have high sales tax and low income, property tax, they are much more prosperous. Everyone pays, no matter what. Everyone has some skin in the game.

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  • PATTY HENRY

    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:48am

    VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE, great photos. SO what if the sales taxes are high. That can be controlled by the individual, right? NOTE TO PAULBOTS: The reason Ron Paul was SO OFFENSIVE TO MOST OF US is YOU.

    I did like the comment: Liberals would not exist in these places…take away the cheeze and the rats leave (Those who want something for nothing and don’t want to work for anything).

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• louise

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:22pm

  Gee wiz gosh darn…………….
  Didn’t Ron Paul say to get rid of the income tax….? Economists said that IF his economic policies were in force, companies from around the world would be clamoring to have their businesses here.

  Didn’t he also say that if we had followed our Constitution all along from its inception, that we would not be in the horrific straits that we are now in? But that is water under the bridge now. Now , If Americans still want a Republic that is based on first of all the Truth of God, and then the Constitution, (becuase the Truth of God will always trump the Constitution), America must see her transgressions and repent and be turned back to Truth.

  And please do not tell me that there are many “truths”.
  In the world, yes there are. But in the picture of the eternal, there is One Truth. God.

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  • soybomb315_II

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:35pm

    if they didnt like Ron Paul for personality reasons – fine. But now it should be crystal clear that we need politicians with his ideas.

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  • sillyfreshness

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:56pm

    Ron Paul would right now be president had he given in to the “chosen people” like all the politicians from both parties do. Had he signed a pledge to send every American to defend Israel, he would right now be packing to move into the White House. However, he had convictions and didn’t cave in to Juden pressure, so the Juden controlled media ran him out of town on a rail.

    Remember how RP talked about ending the Fed? Well that’s another “chosen people” creation and he was stepping on Juden toes. The Federal Reserve was created by “chosen person” and Ron Paul knows that most of America’s problems are the result of Judens. That’s why he refused to kiss Juden’s butts.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Warburg

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  • longknifed

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 2:30pm

    If our R3volution had been handed to us via the ballot box or bullet box…would we be living in the “stone age” in tent cities, suffering from the mumps, with Russians surrounding us?

    I don’t know, but I’d say it would definitely be worth finding out because this society is not worth it anymore. This is not America. I hate this place. No politician offered solutions to the actual existential problems other than Dr. Paul.

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  • deeberj

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 3:04pm

    sillyfreshness – yep, it’s all the Jew’s fault. How simplistic.And racist.

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  • paultard

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 3:14pm

    I’ve posted this numerous times.. Follow Ron’s plan, (see link) the budget WILL be balanced immediately and there will be NO INCOME TAX NEEDED.. I don’t know where some people here think it’s your DUTY to pay an income tax.. We have had one since the 16th amendment in 1913 and some say it was never ratified in the first place. We also need to be like ICELAND and throw our slave masters in jail.. click here —> http://www.dailypaul.com/127677/abolish-these-federal-departments-agencies-programs-grants-bureaus-commissions-administrations-offices-foundations-etc

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  • longknifed

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 3:35pm

    deeberj,
    Defending the “chosen people” for everything is no different. That’s a typical whoopi goldberg “the view” statement that a nation is not responsible because they are dispersed in other countries. It’s POLITICAL, not personal.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R2yI3Mkwy0

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  • sillyfreshness

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 3:46pm

    @Deeberj

    Maybe the truth is racist and anti-Semitic then. Did you ever stop to think about that?

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  • louise

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 4:29pm

    Just so all you know…fyi…
    I have tried to post this numerous times actually in response to sillyfreshness…..but I have been blocked, censored here on theblaze.
    What I want to say is this: I am a Jew according to Romans 2:28-29. I typed out both verses 5 times, and the blaze has not posted it any of those times. WHY…?

    Sillyfreshness, I am NOT an anti-Semite. read Romans 2:28-29 and you will know that I am a Jew.

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  • longknifed

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 4:54pm

    People need to understand that “anti-semitism” is just a shield for the “never-again” crowd to ride roughshod over national sovereignty. Ask these people what Israel has to do with us. They’ll tell you our destiny rests with theirs. Not true.

    They have a monopoly on our foreign policy. They colonized our senate and congress with their marionettes. They fertilized washington with “grassroots” lobbyists, which have surpassed all branches of government in their power.

    They are in bed with NSA. There’s no way not-for-profit can have this kind of database. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqjVmapwcN4

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  • soybomb315_II

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 4:58pm

    they love to whine about being called racists whenever they talk about socioeconomic issues…But if someone around here tries to make a point about pro-Israel lobby and lack of sovereignty….ANTI-SEMITE!!!!

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  • riseandshine

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 5:22pm

    Hi Louise
    I think the Blaze automatically screens out posts that have any word with the letters c-u-m together..as in cir-c-u-m-cision.

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  • chumley

    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:44am

    Louise,

    Would you agree that God is infallible, eternal, omnipotent, perfect, all seeing, without equal in the universe, the creator of everything, knows the past present and future, and any other superlative accolade you can think of?

    Now I would like to do an exercise in logic with you. When he was creating the universe and in turn Earth, how did he screw the pooch so bad? I mean if he is all knowing then he never would have designed the system and beings within to end up the way it did with wars, violence, hate, greed, etc., etc.

    The Devil? If God knows EVERYTHING and CREATES everything then he should have known he was making a bad seed in satan(since he knows the future). So why would he needlessly put us through this when he could just not create it with this problem?

    I know you will say because he made us in his image with free will and the angels too. But he should have seen this running afoul(all knowing). Instead a PERFECT OMNIPOTENT ALL KNOWING creator created a flawed product = NOT LOGICAL. And if you say it was perfect and we are the ones who messed it up, I will say he should have seen this coming and designed it better, after all he KNOWS ALL.

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  • louise

    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:23pm

    Chumley,
    Don’t play games with me.

    For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man, which is in him? Even sothe thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. Now we have percieved not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things freely given to us from God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. But a natural man does dot accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no man. For who has known the MInd of the Lord, that he should instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ.

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  • riseandshine

    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:38pm

    Louise….I was serious in my post above. The Monk has brought it to the attention of a few people. I guess it’s built-in to the system to reject entire posts containing those words…weird. I haven’t tested it before to see if it’s true. I’m going to test it now with the word c-u-c-u-m-b-e-r and see if the post comes up.

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  • riseandshine

    Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:08am

    sure enough…the post didn’t come up.

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  • louise

    Posted on December 5, 2012 at 7:50am

    Riseandshine….Thanks for the information!

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• JungleTrump

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:20pm

  None of these countries export anything but oil. The all rely heavily tourism. Income tax would nothing more than a grain of sand to them. They probably don’t support welfare and other entitlement programs either. Although I’ve seen the poor side of The Bahamas….it won’t make this photo list.

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  • loriann12

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:30pm

    Agreed. And I’ve seen the poor side of Bermuda. Bermuda is a country of extremes. Those rich enough to build an apartment off their house for their adult children so they can have their own address (only one vehicle allowed per address, so the apartment becomes “B” after the numbers), and those living on the streets or in poorly built houses.

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  • soybomb315_II

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:40pm

    I dont think Andorra has any oil. Can we get a fact check on Cayman/Bermuda?

    Perhaps the truth is that they dont have massive social entitlement programs

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  • Todd P

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:54pm

    I think the statement was meant to be read “most of these countries do not export anything, and the few who do export something only export oil”. Fact Check complete. Jeeezzzz…….

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• benrush

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:18pm

  Very interesting, that people dismiss this article, saying, well, these places don’t need an income tax because they are tourist traps.

  Maybe they are tourist traps, because there is no income tax. think about this, entrepreneurs are free to create without being hampered by central planning slave taxes. Maybe that’s why the milieu is so inviting.

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  • Lloyd Drako

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:32pm

    So, if North Dakota were an independent country with no income tax, it would instantly become a tourist magnet? Dream on.

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  • benrush

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 4:32pm

    Afraid to try it, aren’t you?

    That’s why you cherry picked your rebuttal. Let’s get competition back into the mix, and do away with the FEDERAL income tax, and let 50 states innovate. Then we can see the field more clearly, rather than a have a one size fits all overlordship with no competition, monopolizing our currency and our government policy.

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• benrush

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:12pm

  The federal government got along nicely on user fees and tariffs for about a hundred years. THEN we got an income tax.

  End of prosperity.

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• markjphi

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:58pm

  I would move if I could afford to and had a source of income lined up .

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  • JMadison

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:15pm

    Sounds like someone needs more rental income.

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• OldVet

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:47pm

  IN 1913 the world was at war. Tariff revenue was down because of this and we needed to fund the war effort. The income tax was supposed to be a temporary war tax on only the rich. Even now it only comprises 20% of federal revenue but gets 100% of the attention.

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  • benrush

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:10pm

    And why were we at war?

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  • benrush

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:16pm

    we were in 8 wars prior to this income tax. What made income tax a necessity at that particular time? Why was it not rescinded when the war was over?

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  • yohannbiimu

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:22pm

    Sorry dude, but “the world” wasn’t at war until the summer of 1914, so your whole argument is moot.

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• cknapp

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:44pm

  to Nevermind,
  I do not believe that when we talk about the 47% not paying income tax that we are NOT talking about Seniors and the Disabled. When I talk about those not paying income taxes (and still having the right to vote???) I mean the 18-65 year olds who are able-bodied and not independently wealthy (they may be 100% takers OR the working poor who work near-full-time-jobs but do not earn enough to pay income taxes).
  Personally, I would like to know the real labor participation rate of people 18-65 who have 40 hour a week jobs NOW vs 10 years ago. I would also like to see how much the rolls have grown for those on disability between the ages of 18-65 in the last 10 years (I suspect that MANY people who ran out of extended unemployment benefits have figured out how to “game the system” and are illegitimately drawing disability).

  Craig Knapp
  age 51

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  • paulsavage1

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:53pm

    Go to http://www.ask.com or google and you will get the stats you are looking for

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  • DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 10:42pm

    Too many
    Are gaming the system but that is what we teach. Don’t save. Don’t pay your mortgage. Don’t pay your credit card or student loan. Spend all & demand someone else pay your debts!

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• Rowgue

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:41pm

  Those are all tourist traps or third world countries trying to attract industry. They don’t produce anything so income taxes would be pointless and counterproductive.

  Stupid article that just spouts off random facts with no context.

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  • benrush

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:54pm

    The income tax may have had various sales pitches to shove it down our throats, but the bottom line is, the apportionment clause meant what it said. The Federal government shall APPORTION any tax, AMONG THE STATES. Not among the people of said states. The income tax breaches the buffer that the Constitution created to shield the people from direct taxation of the federal government. It is therefore, unconstitutional, as the Supreme Court of 1895 determined.

    I don’t care what anybody says. The income tax is a slave tax.

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  • Rowgue

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:11pm

    I don’t disagree with you, but the article is still nonsense.

    When they can rattle off a list of developed countries that actually contribute something other than nice beaches and gambling or are fortunate enough to be sitting on top of a giant oil field then they’ll have something. If you’re going to do an article that is ostensibly saying “these countries don’t have income taxes and they seem to be doing okay, why can’t we do the same?” then you’ve got to do a realistic comparison with comparable countries.

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  • Git-R-Done

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:47pm

    Rowgue – The Middle Eastern countries have oil.

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• ronin_6

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:36pm

  Had an uncle. When they hit him with the 90% tax rate in the 50′s he said enough is enough gave up his US citzenship, and moved to Bermuda.
  Now before you call him a traitor, understand, he graduated from Annapolis, served in the Navy during WWII. Had his ship sunk out from underneath him. Started two businesses after the war and employed a few hundred folks. Both his sons served in Vietnam in the Marines as infantry officers. His granddaughter graduated Wespoint and right now is somewhere in Afghanistan. He and his did and are doing their bit. He just wasn’t willing to be abused.

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  • soybomb315_II

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:41pm

    He is a patriot. Nobody should tolerate tyranny

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• The-Monk

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:24pm

  Seems like the keys to having no income tax are either oil and/or beautiful beaches and waters.

  Lots of oil or lots of tourists….. that’s where the money comes from.

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• Mapache

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:11pm

  Maybe the USA needs to re-evaluate any aid packages being sent to any of these countries.

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  • searcher619

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:14pm

    The US needs to stop sending money we don’t have to countries who wish for and plot her downfall.

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  • UNALIEN

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:42pm

    The US sends dollars to other countries, not for aid but to expand the global supply of dollars. This is necessary to maintain the US $ global reserve status without expanding dollars internationally the system collapses. The US is effectively exporting inflation, if it didn’t then domestically the US would suffer massive inflation and collapse…

    A catch 22 all due to a completely corrupt global financial system predicated on the US dollar reserve and perpetuated by the banking and political elites…

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  • Rowgue

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:05pm

    That’s about the most asinine thing I’ve ever heard. The US economy would collapse if we stopped sending hundreds of billions of dollars to other countries every year? You need to stop getting your financial news from al jazera.

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  • UNALIEN

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:43pm

    @ROWGUE

    It is true, and it is complex, your reaction can be forgiven as few people understand this and it sounds crazy,,, research Triffin dilemma aka Triffins Paradox,,

    The entire global financial system is based on US debt expansion due to US $ as the global reserve. As the global economies grow they require increased amounts of US dollars.. if that flow contracts the global system collapses and the US $ fails as a reserve, all US $ rush back into the US and cause a massive inflationary collapse.

    Foreign aid is one method of getting US dollars outside, there are others.. including Fed central bank swaps

    It is a corrupt system and losing the US$ as a global reserve will collapse the dollar instantly. Everybody at the highest level understands this dynamic, but never mentions it. In fact, it is so corrupt that if the US debt stopped expanding the global financial system would collapse… it is a ponzi scheme.

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  • Marine25

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:44pm

    UNAlien is right. I wish he weren’t, but he is.

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• searcher619

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:03pm

  This is silly. What do all of these countries have in common? They are tiny. Show us large countries like the US with little to no income tax THEN you are saying something. It’s kinda like the silly argument about crime rates in large cities vs small towns. The logistics are radically different.

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  • ronin_6

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:40pm

    I don’t think its quite as silly as you think. The US did quite nicely without an income tax until the 20th century.

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• BasketFullOfPuppies

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:57am

  I’d actually be more inclined to get rid of property taxes. If I don’t have an income, I don’t have to participate. But, with property taxes, I can never truly be free of government influence AND have a place to live.

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  • searcher619

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:06pm

    You never truly own property in the US anyway. Private property ownership is a myth. If you doubt this then stop paying your property taxes and see how fast that property is taken away from you. You lease property from the state you never really own it. If you owned it they couldn’t take it away from you for non-payment.

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  • themudflap

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:52pm

    Pretty much what he is saying. We now rent our house from the county where we live. There will be a day when someone gets tired of it, fortifies their home and is attacked by the authorities for not paying.

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  • Granny58

    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:21am

    100% agree. Would love to be able to expand our square footage or put on an in-law cottage. But we pay per square habitable foot, so we won’t do that. Imagine the building boom if property taxes were eliminated. Building boom = jobs!

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• sizzler2220

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:57am

  They should have ended the article with a picture of Detroit(US does have Income Tax)

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• csbaby

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:41am

  They are all very tiny countries. You can walk across Monaco in half a day or less.

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• Lloyd Drako

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:36am

  Fantastic role models for the US: tiny island tax havens, and oil sheikhdoms where the natives live on government subventions while foreign indentured servants do all the work. Can we get back to reality here?

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  • soybomb315_II

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:42pm

    sometimes small companies do things better than big multi-national companies

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• willingtoupe

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:34am

  Kuwait has a social program for every (legally born) citizens (excluding convicted jailed crminals) receiving $50,000/year guranteed oil revenue.
  I think Alaska give $1000/year to state citizens…
  But we produce more oil than Kuwait yearly and we should do the same for our citizens and cut welfare and other handouts. But instead we are 53% selfish clinging hoarders and 47% bickering victims instead of being 100% Americans like the Kuwaitees.

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  • Adobewalls

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 10:58pm

    Until we rid ourselves of the enviro-goons and start drilling we will never again be a great nation. All things depend on petroleum, every industry, all of them. We could be energy independent in 10 years easy if we drilled, oil/gas and built refineries. We will never do it with wind, solar.

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• ImChiquita

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:26am

  I’m a beach girl, so anything south of Florida looked good to me.

  Andora, is there any room for a family of four?

  The Middle Eastern nations are too friendly – and too close – to fanatical Islamic nations, so they’re out the window.

  Hm…Monaco. Well, considering it is a Mediterranean country, I can see myself there, too.

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  • biohazard23

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:43am

    Monaco has an insanely high cost of living. I went there a few years ago and I had a manicure in one of the spas. With the current rate of exchange, that manicure cost $116 (89 euros) without tip.

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• FightingBear

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:24am

  Here’s a trhought,…Let’s get one way tickets to any of those locations for the 50% of Americans who pay nothing. Yes, it would be expensive, but ultimately think of all the money we would save in not having to give out the entitlements to those people for the rest of their lives.

  We could even fly them over there AND put a down payment for them on a modest home….we still would save huge dollars….over their lifetimes! The only caveat would be that they could never come back to the USA for any reason.

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  • listeninginVT

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:52am

    1 way ticket and loss of citizenship for them and offspring. LOL My thought was divide the US into 2 separate countries, the independent States vs the dependent States. And we can watch the dependent States self destruct, would have to have ‘chinese wall/berlin wall’ type thing to keep them out though,….your right, an island would be better

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  • Nevermind

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:14pm

    Great idea, lets get rid of all those free loading seniors !! Lets also get rid of all disabled and retired vets, freaking moocher!! All sarcasm since I am a war vet myself. Comments like these are why the GOP lose elections. OUr troops and seniors dont pay and get alot from the government, and they earned every penny of it!

    Stop hating people in this country and you may actually win elections but when you paint wiht a broad brush you turn off alot of peopel that served this county proud.

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  • Mr Sanders

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:56pm

    Umm….. that would be a large part of the 52% that voted for ‘The Man’.

    In answer to your retorical – We can buy them tickets but because “Santa Claus” comes every month here in the good olde US of A for these individuals….. they’ll just refuse the tickets …. and yet again, we just flush good money for bad down the drain.

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• Denise Matthews

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:18am

  It looks to me like those countries are flourishing wonderfully; architecture is beautiful; coast lines gorgeous; so what’s wrong with USA? We could live quite well without paying income taxes just with our energy reserves. The politicians are stuck on stupid evidently! The general population doesn’t realize what the politicians are doing to them and making them pay for it to boot! Shame

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  • mikeg642000

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:19pm

    A good portion of U.S. citizens are “stuck on stupid” for electing tax and spend politicians into office.

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• cdn1979

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:17am

  I see a pattern. the countries with no income taxes are also the ones that do not engage in pointless wars that cost billions.

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  • SimpleTruths

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 4:29pm

    They also have no military, very little infrastructure overhead costs. Those that don’t work in the tourist industry receive a living income free from the government as part of their share of the nation treasury they have (oil).

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• RodT82721

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:14am

  The problems we face has nothing to do with income tax. It’s how the income tax code is used to punish producers and reward corruptness.

  Something is required to fund our govt. It doesn’t matter what you call it, it’s how you obtain it. When our Nation was founded, income tax was not the revenue to pay the cost of govt.

  Then our elected leaders figured out if they could tax the citizens more, they could spend more, so they sold the citizens the need for an income tax and amended our Constitution.

  But then Congress members found they could steal the tax mony by use of the tax code and we have finally reached the $87 Trillion debt we have today.
  With no way in the world of paying for it.

  So Congress hides the debt. Just as they fix the unemployed numbers by not counting “all” the unemployed, the debt is the same. They only publish what they think is a number the voters will accept.

  The fact our public education system can produce new crops of uninformed voters every year, will soon end this grand lie, that those evil rich are the cause of all our problems. (The golden goose.)

  When all the moneys gone (the goose is dead) , who will pay for the free stuff?

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  • toto

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 12:16pm

    Needs to be a popular uprising against our government. A legal one, fight them the way they have been fighting us. Clog the court system with constitutional challenges. Go after the media for their lies, make everything exceedingly public. Go after the private lives of the media, will all of the gusto them have spewed against the the Tea Party. Make it painful.

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  • piper22

    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:42pm

    Someone needs to file a lawsuit and establish precedence for offsetting student loans (owned by SallieMae) or even “accrued” Social Security against the amount of debt per citizen/taxpayer.

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• biohazard23

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:05am

  Hmmmm…. The Caymans are looking good… I love that place so I wouldn’t have a problem moving there if necessary. I would miss going to baseball, football, and hockey games (whenever the lock out finally ends) but I would get over it. :)

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• huey6367

  Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:05am

  The US used to not have an income tax until 1913. A lot of those countries have something (oil, tourism) that makes it unnecessary to have an income tax. Strange, the US has this, too.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:17am

    Yes, but we also have a Progressive led government that is insane beyond measure.

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  • DesertRose1960

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:18am

    Social conservatives instituted the income tax so they could pass Prohibition. Prior to the income tax, the major source of Federal funding were various taxes on alcohol. The one lasting effect of Prohibition is that Americans drink a lot less than they did before it. We could not run the Government on alcohol taxes.

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  • myptofvu

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:27am

    I think the income tax was put in place to fund the soon to be Federal Reserve…How were they going to pay the interest to the Federal Reserve answer how about an income tax.

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  • UNALIEN

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:40am

    Anyone who really understands the ponzi financial system also understands that income taxes are NOT needed to run the Government, they are used for redistribution, plunder and control..

    Now, interest rates are artificially suppressed but if interest rates rose the an historical average of 6.5%. the entire income tax revenue would be needed to pay the interest on the debt.

    So, all income tax revenue would go to interest on the debt at 6.5% interest rate..

    Think about that when Obama is massively expanding the welfare State, UNSUSTAINABLE

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  • Lloyd Drako

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:40am

    The income tax was put in place in 1913 to make up for revenues soon to be lost because of a lowering of tariffs, which had been the main source of government revenue. It had nothing to do with Prohibition or the Federal Reserve.

    The US has oil and tourism–and a population of over 300,000,000, which makes the comparison with the likes of Brunei and Kuwait ludicrous.

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  • UNALIEN

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:55am

    @LLOYD DRAKO

    You are not exactly being contextually honest,,, the sales pitch was to replace tariffs but once put in place it has been expanded and used for plunder, control and redistribution…

    Why don’t we go back to the 1913 tax rates then,,,,

    In 1913, the top tax bracket was 7 percent on all income over $500,000 ($11 million in today’s dollars1); and the lowest tax bracket was 1 percent.

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  • Lloyd Drako

    Posted on December 3, 2012 at 1:04pm

    The 1913 income tax considered as a revenue generator was in fact meant to replace tariffs. It implied, as you say, that the wealthy would now be made to “pay their fair share.” However, if we really are to go back to the tax structure of 1913, then 99% of us will pay no Federal income taxes at all–quite a jump from the endlessly harped-on 47%.

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