S.E. Cupp Gets Into Heated Debate With Co-Host Over Bob Costas’ Gun Control Rant: ‘Absolutely Absurd’
During Monday’s edition of “The Cycle” on MSNBC, TheBlaze’s S.E. Cupp blasted NBC Sports’ Bob Costas for lecturing his audience about gun control during Sunday Night Football, calling it a “shameful” and “irresponsible” act. Costas was responding to Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher’s recent murder-suicide.
Cupp sparred with fellow co-host Steve Kornacki over whether guns or individuals are to blame for such tragedies, particularly involving domestic disputes.
“When we’re talking about the weapons, we’re not talking about domestic violence,” Cupp said. “And that does a huge disservice to a woman who is in that situation.”
Cupp said it was irresponsible for Costas to tell “millions of NFL viewers that they have permission to blame guns instead of the person who pulled the trigger.” She went on to say that giving an “inanimate object” human capabilities is “absolutely absurd.”
Costas, reading from sports columnist Jason Whitlock’s column, said:
“Handguns do not enhance our safety. They exacerbate our flaws, tempt us to escalate arguments, and bait us into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it.”
“Bob Costas has, I think, done something shameful and irresponsible and is going to have some blood on his hands if we continue to talk about the wrong problem, what is not the problem: handguns,” Cupp said.
Kornacki jumped in and immediately attempted to discredit Cupp’s argument.
“I wish you’d grapple with some of the statistics that are out there, S.E., before you say something like that,” Kornacki replied.
“I’ve written about this a lot, Steve, and very few domestic violence cases are committed with handguns. That’s a fact,” Cupp shot back.
Kornacki said that a domestic dispute is 12 times more likely to end in homicide when there is a firearm in the house. The source of the information is “John Hopkins University Center for Gun Control.” He also argued that the risk of homicide increases by 5 times for women when there is a gun in the house (Source: American Journal of Public Health). Finally, Kornacki said two out of three women killed by guns are involved in domestic disputes (Source: U.S. Department of Justice).
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“There is a link here,” said Kornacki. “It takes a horrible situation where a woman gets beat up, but at least has a chance to get out with her life and get away from that situation, it takes that and it makes her dead.”
Cupp countered by saying most women in domestic disputes are in danger because of “fists and hands,” adding that “anything can be a weapon.”
“I think Bob Costas could have had a really great moment if he realized that he had a captive audience, mostly of men, to talk about the horrors of domestic violence,” Cupp added.
“And ignore the element that takes domestic violence and makes it 12 times more likely to lead to somebody dying? Let’s just ignore that,” Kornacki replied.
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Comments (282)
strawberry411a
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:54pmQuiet SE. You are like O’Reilly: no one can figure out where you stand on anything. You are all over the map.
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cordovamx
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:07pmDid you even watch the video? S.E. did a superb job at standing for her point and is one of the most consistent orators out there when it comes to defending her positions. Your makes makes zero credible sense.
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LBJDIDIT1963
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:12pmShe’s got more sense and cajonies than any liberal I know, the solution to this is to DEFINE the real problem! Just the other day a Wife tried to poison her Husband with a tuna sandwich! Where’s the outcry banning sandwiches? Where there is the will to kill there is a way!
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v15
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:13pmSomeone is cranky and it’s nap time!!
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Shastaman
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:25pmFirst off the 12x figure never comes into play if there is no domestic violence first.
Second and foremost why the heck don’t conservative do some straight math. Lets do a survey of Democrats who commit crimes vs. Republicans who commit crimes.
I’ll be big money most folks committing violent crimes are Democrats.
i’d take a second bet the most folks in Prison are Democrats.
It is Democrats who are irresponsible with guns and if you want to take them
away from people…take them from the Democrats and handgun crime would dissolve overnight.
Stop letting something the Democrats are 95% responsible for be blamed on Republican gun owners who support responsible gun ownership.
I am not saying there are not responsible Democratic gun owners..i am sure there are…but at the same time it is high time your party takes responsibility for giving gun ownership a bad name!
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chalkdust
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:49pmMaybe you’re suffering from tunnel vision. Or put another way, you have a narrow point of view.
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LBJDIDIT1963
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:49pmStatistics would reveal a pattern….I’m not part of either!
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Bluebonnet
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:54pmWho are you people who think guns shoot themselves? Any idiot bent on injuring or killing someone will use anything; A knife, fists, baseball bat, golf club (I keep one by my back door.) It’s sick, angry, unbalanced people who can’t control their anger who do these horrid things and hurt or kill someone.
People kill people, not objects which could even be an auto used to hurt or kill someone. Get real!
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:54pmSo hot shot: what is she: conservative or liberal. DEFINE HER for this intellectual dunce..ok?
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Desertlakesflying
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:59pmPlease watch the video and think before you speak next time. Your mindless ignorance made my head hurt.
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JungleTrump
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:03pmShe’s on the map of truth. But don’t take my word for it. Investigate it yourself.
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black9897
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:06pmI don’t care if it’s 12 or any number. The point is, it’s none of your business what I own in my house. Think it’s bad and don’t like, don’t own a gun.
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Proverbs17-12NLT
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:09pmPlease stop reporting on SE I’m running out of KY
sandrunner
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:09pmSE is correct. It is the intention to commit violence to a spouse that should be the point.
and when it comes to the gun we use for hunting, protecting oneself and family members of possible harm, but the number one reason that we have guns is to protect ourselves from a Dictator (a person or government granted absolute emergency power) over the people.
It is the politician that is worried over a law abiding citizen with a gun, than they are a criminal with a gun.
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kenboo1
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:16pmIn 2011 – there were 12,996 murders committed in the USA. Of those less than 1/2 (6,009) were committed by a hand gun. 8,775 were committed by a gun… Of the 8,775 murders by guns in 2011 pales in comparison to the 48,000 people killed in Auto accidents in 2011… Before we even think about the 12 times more likely to die from violence if a hand gun is in a home, we should take peoples cars away from those who can not handle that responsibility…
strawberry411a
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:28pmAll you mindless CUPP supporters. You better do your research before you start standing by your woman over ONE video.
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idrathermisstotheright
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:42pmKenboo1. Nice job pointing out vehicles are 5 times more likely to kill someone than guns. I would like to know the number of deaths by illegal aliens compared to guns. I bet they kill thousands with cars, guns, knives and what ever else they can use. I don’t hear anyone calling ban them, they just keep inviting them over.
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ScreamingMimi
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 9:03pmBet you are right SHASTAMAN
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 9:16pmMade your head hurt huh? Mindless ignorance. So you are convinced this gal is on the path to truth? SHE DOESN’T EVEN KNOW IF SHE IS AN AGNOSTIC OR AN ATHEIST BY HER OWN ADMISSION! It is really no wonder the conservatives of this country are in confusion. No one is willing to make a stand on ANY principle on any issue. SHE IS ALL OVER THE MAP IN SEARCH OF HEADLINES AND A BOOK TITLE! It’s 30 second sound bites, 1 minute 22 seconds of hiked up dresses on a midnite show, 32 seconds of “I think I think this,,but tomorrow I might not”. STOP IT! But you are convinced she is on the path to social justice. God help this country and YOUR ignorance.
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bbaldwin803
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 9:17pmFirst off, statistics prove that laws which make it legal for law abiding citizens ta carry concealed weapons (guns) reduce crime rates, and not by just a little. The link I’ve posted here is a statistical breakdown of the crime rates in Texas over the past 30 years and it clearly shows both a reversal of an increasing trend and a significant reduction in violent crimes after Concealed Weapons Permit laws were enacted in 1995. FACTS don’t lie!!!!
Second, about that bit about domestic violence is more likely to end in death in houses with guns… It’s like trying to say kids that eat hotdogs are more likely to choke on hotdog that adults… More kids eat hotdogs therefore the the numbers simply indicate more kids than adults choke on hotdogs, but it doesnt give any information about RATES (how many kids vs choke per 100,000 kid hodog eaters vs how many adults choke per 100,000 adult hodog eaters). Correlation doesn’t always mean Causation. You have to look at much more information than just straight numbers. For example, has anyone done a study to find out what percentage of homes where domestic violence is an issue have guns? If a high percentage do, then the correlation that homes with domestic violence that have guns are more likely to end in gun violence just supports the numbers that more homes where violence occurs also have guns.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=462677023769449&set=a.462675077102977.95863.455321084505043&type=1&relevant_count=1
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Nehemiah6.3
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 9:23pmDomestic abuse is the cause, the gun did not pick it self up and shoot her. If guns are eliminated, what will be the next item that kills 12 times more than the next. Are we to eliminate that too? Then the next, and the next. How far does it go?
How will you eliminate bare hands when you finally get to that?
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Crazyotto
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 10:03pmSE Cupp is hot and I am sure you are not… You certainly seem to have poker up your whatever..
SE Cupp has always been consistently conservative. She is an admitted Atheist which might grate on up tight evangelicals but she is pretty straight forward about it and is very accepting of believers. Unlike most Atheists. She is tough (she hunts) she is smart (Cornell grad and classically trained ballet dancer). She is much smarter than Palin..
I am not sure what your problem is … whether you are Christian.. a liberal .. or just someone who has issues with good looking Conservatives regardless you need to find another outlet
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v15
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 11:55pmWhoa whoa whoa!!
S.E. Cupp is clueless about politics because she’s an atheist/agnostic??? How are those even related and why does that matter when she’s JUST REPORTING THE NEWS?? Typical dumb Christian observation. Wow!! You must live in the southeast!
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nzkiwi
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:16am@ Strawberry
Perhaps you should view this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=M1u0Byq5Qis#!
Something seemed a little off in this story. Mr Howerton noted that: The source of the information is “John Hopkins University Center for Gun Control.”(sic)
So I did a quick bit of digging and I discovered that there is a strong co-operative relationship between Johns Hopkins, the Brady Campaign, and various minor players. Domestic violence is a major strategic pressure point; “a domestic dispute is 12 times more likely to end in homicide when there is a firearm in the house”.
Two points on that; a) I cannot verify that statistic so far and if it were true, verification would surely be prominent, and, b) if guns are removed from the house, the woman is defenceless. Is that a good idea?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ExC7fE1LaY
The FBI’s National Crime Victimization Survey indicates that by far the safest course of action for women to take when they are confronted by a criminal is to present a gun.
People promoting gun control pretend to care about the lives of innocents, but they don’t. They wish to disarm the public. As Sarah Brady of the Brady campaign said:
“Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn’t matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.”
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banjarmon
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:34amIf Jovan’s wife had the gun, she would be alive to be a Mother to her child!
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Shastaman
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:38amOk so people abuse cars and more people die by car than by gun…should everyone have their cars taken away?
Conservatives need to realize these Dems and trolls are not playing for fun…they mean it…and its time the conservatives get real and tough. You send your kids to die overseas for the American way and let these liberals do worse damage here at home. And they are not fighting fair. Time to fight their way.
GUN ISSUE: If you map out the USA with a red and blue scheme county by county as far as gun abuse or domestic violence and any crime for that matter you will find the same blue for Democrats that won the election will be the same counties with the highest crime rates by guns.
Simply put..this is a democratic base issue.
Why are conservatives labeled as the bad guys who needs to give up their guns…when in fact it is a Democrat issue?
Here is why…because the media (movies included) have painted us as the Bad guys. Bob Caustic has a image in his mind of a southern white redneck pointing a gun at him and he wants ALL guns gone. But chances are much higher that a Democrat…one of his own…would get him first.
Democrats need to shamed for the culture they have created.
We need to constantly put in their face that they need to clean up their own ranks first. Try gun control in the Blue areas first before you come after some farmer in Kansas who respects his firearm and second amendment right.
Time to Shame the Liberals with their own tactics!
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LaBelle
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:17amI honestly do not care what S.E.thinks about anything.
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DarkJello
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:06amStrawberry:
You cannot keep up with Cupp or O’Reilly, and want it to be their fault??
lol dude, lol.
fyi, 2nd amendment is crucial thanx to incoming huge brother gooberment!
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nzkiwi
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:12amThe quote which I attributed to Sarah Brady turns out to be a false quote. I am quite annoyed with myself for not digging deeper before posting that.
My apologies to all, including Ms Brady, in the improbable event that she is viewing this page…
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DMENTED
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 4:43amAww…aw wittle stawbewwy mad…S.E. should’ve been half-naked, riiiiiiiiiiight? That would make it all better, and make her more credible too. A good wife indeed.
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Speshal K
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:05amGeez, Straw! You THAT intimately well-versed on S.E.? It’s as if you were bursting at the seams to spout out all that “SHE DOESN’T EVEN KNOW…” stuff re her personal indecision about “God/No God.” For cryin’ out loud! If you can’t resist devolving into the usually predictable liberal vitriol and expletive-laden posts, at least have the class to show yourself the door. Or, better yet, Strawberry, call “911″ and let’s make nice once you’ve gotten your head out of your “A”, m’kaay?
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DIR
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:18am@STRAWBERRY411A
I’d define SE as a hot female, in fact so hot she can melt a cheese sandwich from across the room and the elastic In just about any non gay dudes shorts. She is an American conservative political commentator, with the emphasis on attractive conservative, as are most conservative women. That’s one way you can tell she’s conservative, the other is her views. Another way to determine this is to look it up on Wikipedia, or if you know her, just ask her, which I’ve done many times, just to get her all riled up.
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Balzy
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:37amDude you can’t figure it out cause you relate her to the few talking points you’ve heard from her.
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Pacman116
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:56amAre you that ignorant? I mean really.
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M4-A1
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:37amstrawberry411a
Nimb rod dufus alert above. SE did a great job. just because this guy used a gun doesn’t make everybody who owns a gun a bad person.
Do I blame every drunk for the 1 drunk you just ran his car into a crowd of people NO I blame that 1 drunk for getting behind the wheel. do I blame the booze company NO.
I am so sick and tired of liberal BS.
Can we find a planet to send all liberals to.
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:02amUh..yes..yes. I uh stand corrected. I am sorry. SE Cupp is hot therefore she is conservative. SE CUPP is a STRONG decisive atheist..I stand corrected..therefore she is conservative. SE Cupp is “classically trained in ballet….” therefore she is conservative SE CUPP just voiced a strong opinion that a sportscaster made stupid political comments at halftime…..therefore she is a conservative. SE CUPP thinks we need to give in to the gay agenda..therefore she is a conservative….SE CUPP went to Cornell…so she is a conservative. I guess I am now convinced. I am not a conservative anymore. Thanks guys. Your arguments make a whole lot of sense now.
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coachsmac
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:38amS E does a great job and she is one very smart young lady!! I only disagree with her on her religious views! She does her research and knows the facts of which she speaks!! She is a liberals worst nightmare, an educated, smart, beautiful, atheist, Conservative who actually understands that our government is out of control and needs to be reigned in!!
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:51amThe only consistent thing I can discern from these posts is that SE CUPP is beautiful Just what we need..hard thinking pragmatic voters. But i am convinced. I know so much about this twenty something from Cornell who has been in the public eye for …oh say a year or so….despite her various views on some key issues…that I am convinced she can be president next election. You have convinced me. I a m sorry. SE CUPP IS A CONSERVATIVE!
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CobraBill
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:03amOn average, 5,000 babies are murdered in their mothers womb every single day.
393,000 die from smoking each year, that’s over 1,000 every day.
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LakeHartwellSailor
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:31amSince I am on the road 4-5 days a week, my wife is VERY comfortable having her little Walther P22 on hand. And I wouldn’t mess with her….she’s very quick bringing it up into the ready position and can consistently do a double tap that places the rounds within 4 inches of each other……I think that’s good enough. Who knows if she could do that under duress; but at least she has a fighting chance in the event of a home invasion.
I wouldn’t mess with her.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:37amS.E. is spot on, always. We DO know where she stands and if you want to see decent NEWS on a CONSISTENT basis, you’ll tune into THE REAL NEWS (The Blaze) at the 5 PM (6PM is when it come on) hour …between CULP, HOLMES, SEXTON and CAIN you get REAL news. I do not watch Hannity anymore…It’s like a total waste of time; Greta is a rehash of O’Reilly/Hannity but I like her, I will with “something is really going on” O’Reilly is really, really arrogant. He actually thinks he’s a deciding voice in how people in USA think…But he’s like a B player.
CULP is clear, maybe not as brief as SEXTON who is the best of the best, but what I like most about her is that she is fearless and she walks her talk. This is a true AMERICAN PATRIOT and don’t worry, sooner or later her reasoning ability will bring her to the foot of CHRIST. If I were a kid her age, having been taught the garbage most of them were taught and early childhood was the Jim Bakker debacle, I wouldn’t think much of “RELIGION” either. Sooner or later though, we have to step back, wonder why we are even here; put pieces together and come to the accurate conclusion that we didn’t make ourselves and the one who did Truly Loves Us enough to let US develop as Souls by exercising Free Will. One thing will click and the rest will be the greatest gift she’s ever had or will have!!
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naughtycal
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:44amGuns aren’t the problems infadelity and having chilodrem out of wedlock led to this disaster.
We have a highly paid athlete who has a moral obligations via a baby with his girlfriend. He also has a lack of morality via cheating on her with another girl. She found out threatened to leave him and sue him for a large piece of his earnings. He knows she can because the law has been proven to be jaded and against men in general in civil courts.. So in a fit of greed and rage he snapped and killed her.
Guns didn’t kill her she was killed for greed and impotence of being able to get fair treatment as a man
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Jetstream001
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:09pmStrawberry411a – thanks for putting into words about this woman. Her supporters would be cut in half (or less) if she wasn’t “hot”.
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jhrusky
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:18pm@ kenboo1
“In 2011 – … Of the 8,775 murders by guns in 2011 … ”
It would be interesting to further investigate that number and find out how many murders were committed by felons who shouldn’t have a gun to begin with? How many are gang-bangers shooting each other? I’m betting that will whittle that number down quite a bit showing a very, very small number of law-abiding WE THE PEOPLE types commit murders with guns.
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jhrusky
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:28pm@ jetstream001
“Strawberry411a – thanks for putting into words about this woman. Her supporters would be cut in half (or less) if she wasn’t “hot”.”
Unfortunately, I think you’re quite correct on this. People tend to agree/disagree with people based upon their physical appearance. Sad.
That said, personally, I think S.E. is more what I would term a ‘liberal conservative’ or a ‘conservative liberal’. What used to be considered ‘conservative’ has changed a bit. Conservatives used to be about control … liberals were about live and let live. That’s changed now. Strange.
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:42pm…and that’s ALL I am saying. We know nothing about this woman. This video on the sportscaster is meaningless.
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DIR
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:21pm@Strawberry…
Interesting but emotionally flawed argument Strawberry. You are definitely bitter whereas Cupp is concerned, not to mention at the respondents to your request for a definition of S E Cupp. You didn’t ask for definition of her communitcation skills. She is a conservative and her good looks have nothing to do with it, her looks are just her good fortune. What does her being an atheist have to do with anything other than as a talking point in your dislike for her conservatism and an attempt to turn her fans and anyone who likes her against her. It seems like you have a problem that some of use like her for more reasons that she is a conservative. She’s also a nice person, does that preclude her from being a conservative. Plus, she’s never said a crummy thing about you. Get over it. She makes a lot more sense than you do even when she has a bad day.
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:45pmAgain you missed the point…what DOES atheism have to do with it….EXCEPT EVERYTHING. And that’s just what YOU focused on. Forget about it. This isn’t anything about bitterness or attitude or anything you elude to. We just went through 4 years of not knowing about aparticular man…..I am not falling for any more pundits fast talking or any comments from those like you that accept with no questions. YOU like her…good for YOU. I am not sold on her.
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suttonea76
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:58pm12x my ****. The crimes that are being committed with guns are by those who have an insecurity and are too stupid to articulate a solution but by fear and threat. Guns will never perpetuate the problem as thugs and weak minded fools will always find a way. Gun laws serve those who wish to oppress and not the community protecting themselves from each other. It takes shallow thinking to blame the gun as the problem since it takes a thought which turns into a decision which turns into an action to get to this point. I have a gun and have been very upset at my wife but never had an inkling to invoke fear and irrational physical abuse since I have REASON and the respect for the law.
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James
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:27pmNot sure why S E kept saying right when that idiot was mouthing off on the statistic thing rather he was right or wrong for I don’t know where he gets his information or maybe he makes it up? But living here in Tampa; them Bucs are all ways on some B. S. drug thing, getting arrested and most can’t read or write nor talk and can’t follow directions.Though I like Pro Football but really the NFL SUCKS!
ESQ
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Corsairguru
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 4:31pmSE should have said, “OK Steve, so for all of your Liberal data points and statistics, what SOLUTION are you proposing, if not to focus on domestic violence itself? Do you think you’re going to ban the possession of guns from the homes of all Americans who have no criminal record?”. THAT is how you redirect the debate back toward the core problem of domestic violence. If a person with a clean record can’t keep a gun in his own house, then LEGAL gun ownership in this country is no more. The criminals will continue to have plenty. The hard truth is that nothing that could have stopped this from happening other than the football player making up his own mind otherwise.
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shadesofgray
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:18pmReading your posts I get the impression you have a challenge with attractive, articulate, intelligent women. Personally I would rather be around a responsible, capable man or women with a gun than a simpering wimp who rolls over and wets on themselves during a confortation with a “bad guy”.
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:26pmSE is as wishy washy as the rest of the so called Republicans ! She is all about hype – one minute she acts Conservative – the next she is a Flaming Communist Liberal ! I don’t trust her !
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Fecal_Matters
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:31pmwho cares…wasn’t listening…she is beautiful
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:55pm…and that pile of crap pretty much sums up the WHOLE pile of crap. Thanks *******.
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AirborneVet
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:41pmStrawberry
You are committing the sin we mostly attribute to hard leftist: oversimplification. Are you really saying that because someone disagrees with you or “the Party” on any issue then that can’t be conservative? Really? It also sounds like you are saying that because some people agree with what she said on the video that they agree with everything she has ever said and everything she believes. You are probably a troll so this will be my only attempt to point out the serious flaws in your ignorant and incomprehensible rant.
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victor615
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:27pmI disagree. I think SE did a great job of articulating her position. The most solid reference on firearms in America isn’t even quoted. It’s the study by Professor John Lott called, “More Guns, Less Crime.” Anyone who has an opinion regarding gun control should read this.
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johnsnare
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:31pmSure glad i do not like Tuna fish. S.E. Cupp, is one smart lady, and usually is right on point. Jovan Belcher, had a history of women beating and a volatile temper, but MSM, completely ignores that fact.
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ffubrac7
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 2:28pmWonder how this story would have gone if she was the registered gun owner and was trained on how to protect herself and her child. Instead of being another victim of domestic violence she might have had a chance and changed this outcome.
We need to address violence against women by training ourselves, our friends and most importantly our daughters that it does not have to be like this.
As a women and mother of seven children, with experience in domestic violence, gun ownership, proper training and mixed martial arts I have made sure I can protect myself and my family if need be.
Our two big bad loyal dogs are also added security!!!!!
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John 1776
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:52pmSo the liberal media runs with the story that a family member is 22 times more likely to be shot as compared to a criminal breaking into your house… Nice sound bite, unless you do the research and find out that over 99% of the time, a law abiding home owner will use their gun to hold or chase a criminal away without having to fire it into the crook. Since the gun is not fired (or, the crook was not shot) technically, you didn’t use it to shoot the intruder and it doesn’t count! They won’t report that it is 5 times more likely to keep you safe.
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Balzy
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:21amWhen there’s as much rape going on out there, you’d think Kornacki would be telling every woman out there to get a gun. Because regardless of body type, any one person can shoot as good as any other with practice. One of the best exhibition shooters in history was a woman.
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bleuze
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:43amThey also forget to mention the gun bans in place where lawless reigns like Chicago & DC!
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tajloc
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:52amYes SE missed the time to argue with stats against the progs point. His “12X” facts are just ways to argue and do not represent what is happening. Yesterday 100,000,000 legal gun owners did not commit a crime. I wonder what the crime rate for illegal gunowners was?
Rom 8:28
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OlefromMN
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:49pmWhy this is even a topic of discussion is concerning to me. The “football” has been kicked off and we now have to return it. Game on.
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Eastinfection
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:48pmI once got into a “heated” exchange with S.E. Cupp……. then i woke up.
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The-Monk
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:55pmHi East,
SE Cupp or SE’s Cupps? LOL
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:57pmYea. She’s another Palin: a looker with no kick. If I need to debate someone sitting on a fence I’ll debate my own 28 year old daughter. She does it for free.
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Eastinfection
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:00pmGood point, Monk.
We were role- playing.
i was “bra”!
Kregneva
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:09pmJason! good one —
I GeTitGoTit! Good! Cheers mate ! – uh, check, mate
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SingerGuy
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:22pmDo you guys have to objectify S.E. like this? If she was my wife or sister I’d want to punch you both in the mouth right now. OK, she’s pretty, and desirable. I totally get that. But what you are doing is a verbal sexual assault and I’m sure most of the women and some of the men here find it offensive, so knock it off!
(But then maybe fantasizing about women you will never actually meet is the only action you get.)
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OldSurfRat
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:35pmHey Guys
Married so can not coment(;
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OldSurfRat
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:37pmSingerguy
Yea I’m sure she would be devistated. NOT!!
She hears worse walking down the street. ” Hey Mommy”!!!
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OldSurfRat
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:43pmWedding singer???
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OldSurfRat
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:48pmEast,
My wife just saw my no comment and said i was a good boy. I’m wagging my tail and waiting for my treat
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DEFCON4
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:55pm@Singer, Lighten up, Francis ! :http://youtu.be/C6cxNR9ML8k
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Eastinfection
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:55pmLOL SURF!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY3x8-X8zNY
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OldSurfRat
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:03pmEas
How did you know??
Rub my belly!
I’m a good boy!! I’m a good boy!!
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Pantloadian
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:21pmAtta boys. I knew you wouldn’t disappoint.
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OldSurfRat
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:26pmHave a nice night guys.
Ggotta go and get my treat (: (: (:
I like being a good boy. Heheheheheh
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The-Monk
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:42pmHowdy Wango,
My, aren’t you up late tonight…. LOL
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Pantloadian
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:53pmDuh Monk . . . Good news! Romney is the nominee! All the polls and pundits say he’s going to win in a landslide! The Tea Party is reshaping America! Republicans are going to take back the Senate! And we’ll be able to put two maybe three more conservatives on the SCOTUS! And repeal Obamacare!
All it took was some hard work and a little faith in Jesus. I knew He’d look after us. I knew He was on our side.
Now that’s a LOL
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 9:29pmWhat in the hell are you talking about yeast? In typical fashion this computer blogging has turned in to the usual bull****. So long bBeck et al. And yeast you really are the self described fungus you are. Disgusting.
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COFemale
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:54amstrawberry411a You are blowing a lot of smoke about S. E. Cupp. Things you have no earthly clue. So how much is Media Blathers paying you to attack S. E.?
S.E. Cupp has more smarts in her little finger than you do in your whole body. She could wipe you all over the floor like a dirty mop.
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DMENTED
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 4:51amStrawberry’s a liar, and a jealous one at that. She doesn’t have a 28-year-old daughter, and she’s jealous-to-the-bone of our Sara. A little used-up dirty mop indeed, and word now, too.(It’s so sad to see a career slowly sinking into the sunset, no? …oui.)
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Zipit
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:13amHey SIGERGUY! Lighten up a little there cream puff! And as for you WANGO, the insurance company is on the phone! You’ve been denied due to lack of intelligence!!!
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jhrusky
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:32pm@ singerguy
Amazing how these so-called ‘conservatives’ and many who claim to be ‘christians’ are so good at acting like 14 year old boys isn’t it? Yes, S.E. Cupp is a beautiful woman. One would think an adult would leave it at that.
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SingerGuy
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 6:12pmReal men know how to treat even the very beautiful women with respect and dignity and they keep their personal thoughts, well, personal. Any man who mocks that position has outed himself. I’m just sayin’.
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regmgr
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:47pmCostas is a Leftist and he only knows what the talkings points are. He couldn’t figure out anything for himself. Maybe a sports reporter should report on things he only knows about in the first place.
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I_carry_a_357
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:44pmO.J used a knife. Perhaps we would be better served if we discussed mental illness
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SaturdaysWarrior76
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:06amAmen to that!
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tothepoint
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:43pmPaul Harvey said, “The next time someone talks gun control, find out which group of citizens they wish to have exterminated.”
You see, Paul Harvey did the research and found that over the last 100 years, 56 million people were murdered by their own governments after those governments took away their right to own guns.
So, to Costas and all the rest of you gun control fanatics, “Which group of citizens are you going to have exterminated after you take our guns?”
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oneshiner
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 9:06pmSame as the old saying: “When you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.”
It’s a proven fact that towns that do not allow guns have a much higher rate of crime than towns that allow guns.
Love the Paul Harvey reminder. Loved that guy.
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I_carry_a_357
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:41pmO.J used a knife.
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Atlappraiser
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:03pmAllegedly. ;-)
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azcowboy1
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:40pmI have many guns. I’ve taught my wife to use them all. I have been married to my wife (#2) for 16 yrs. She’s from Berkely Ca and I’m from the South. If you don’t think we haven’t had a few arguements,think again lol. Guns don’t and won’t come into play. When we augue, I usually go sit on the porch, I know I ain’t gona win anyway. We are both Adults and value life. This football player was or became wacked. He could have killed her with anything. If she would’ve have had a gun,maybe she would be alive. If this BIG MAN has to shoot a little girl, he’s not much of a man. Guns don’t kill people, idiots do. Lets ban idiots starting with O nevermind
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AlansTigg
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:52pmexactly you are either of a mindset to commit murder or you are not…kinda like a nice guy doesn’t get into a fight with his wife and suddenly start beating her because there was a bat nearby. It is in you or it is not, the availbility of tools with which to commit the act might alter the actual events but not the outcome
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Polarized America
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:54pm.
i once knew a women who told me she use to put ” Nair ” in her husbands shampoo bottle
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mbck1491
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:57pmAZcomboy, you took the words out of my mouth. Just because I own guns doesn’t mean I’m going to shoot my wife. We have had our fair share of arguments and disagreements over the 16 years we have been married, but I would never never ever think of pulling a gun on her. That’s called a nut job, and not a responsible gun owner. Guns are only for the protection of my wife and kids if someone wants to break into my home. This football player was clearly not right upstairs in his head. I feel sorry for his young daughter as she is going to have to grow and deal with this the rest of her life.
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AlansTigg
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:38pmKornacki said that a domestic dispute is 12 times more likely to end in homicide when there is a firearm in the house
I wonder how many of the cases used to come up with this statistic involved homes with legally vs illegally owned guns? Also how many of the cases that ended in homicide were the abuser being killed by the victim.
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Webeenhad
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:38pmOkay! So, if there were no guns then it could be said that It could be 12 times as likely to be deaths if there are kitchen knives or hammers in the home. So what is the common denominator all you brainless liberals?
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JungleTrump
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:13pmSelf righteous liberals have no time for rationale. They beleive what they believe and are open to nothing else. You see, they are intellectual, Their liberal professors gave them positive reinforcement when they were able to ignore rational thought.
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AlansTigg
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:27pmYou cannot use logic to argue with people determined to ignore any facts that contradict their belief
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ORACLE12389
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:37pmThese stats are so pointless, your more likely to die from drowning when you buy a pool, and so on. Stats are useless, facts are not. Bottom line some ******* that is going to beat his wife, stab, rape, strangle, and so on will find a way to kill her. Often with drawn out brutal results because they have no idea what they’re doing. So in a morbid way one can even argue it’s better to die by the gun than what could happen otherwise. That is the lib trap of what if, instead of these guys will do this no matter what; Dinner is late, home late, and it never ends. It’s time we said enough, women get your lives together and leave them. As far as the men quite blaming inanimate objects for their crimes. How many people are stabbed each year? Should we outlaw butcher knives, and chainsaws because someone might use them for evil. No, in the old country we looked at the INDIVIDUAL as the one, and ONLY responsible party for their crime. By old country I mean before the nanny state took over.
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jman-6
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:36pmSE , need I remind you that you never argue with an idiot as they will drag you down to their level and beat the daylights outta ya with experience! But kudos for trying since its three on one everyday!
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Dkoonz
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:36pmGo get um girl dont let that little wimp push you around.
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IWISHIWASINTEXAS
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:35pmSo glad I don’t watch MSNBC. The overwhelming stupidity makes my eyes water something terrible :(
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mrs.janet.murgatroid
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:35pmS E could have made her point about domestic violence more poignant if she had started ripping her clothes off and pulling her ****, flailing around on the ground half naked screaming and moaning like a victim of domestic violence. A visual image stays in the brain longer than mere words.
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Polarized America
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:40pm.
…….i’m glad she put a little curl in her **** ..
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jman-6
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:40pmI guess arguing your point of view is outta the question for someone like you!
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 7:00pmI agree. And that’s about the level she is anymore. No one can define her…she is EVERYWHERE.
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DMENTED
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 4:59amHeavens… that image of S.E. is…is…umm…interesting, to say the least. I…uh…would NEVER want to see her like that. it would be so, er…umm… YES! Visually stimulating while calling attention to domestic violence at the same time. Maybe it would be released on DVD, so i could watch it over and over, as I HATE domestic violence.
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rollthebones
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:11amThis post and some of its replies are absolutely demented and demeaning to domestic violence victims and women. Being a person in both those categories, I really hope some of you people become ashamed of yourselves one day. Then maybe you might be able to pull your head out of your ass and stop talking ****.
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kc_chiefsfan
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:33pmAs always, SE comes armed with facts and ready to fight. I am a gun-loving Chiefs fan and was happy with the way that the entire situation was handled yesterday by the Chiefs organization. Honor the victims of these crimes and hold the criminals responsible for their actions.
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jcldwl
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:33pmI was a police officer for 11 years and handled hundreds of domestic abuse cases. Not one involved a gun. Bob Costas is a communist pure and simple. Ignore the facts the man had issues with head injuries, alcohol and drugs, what kind I don’t know but considering his profession I’d bet on performance enhancing. Oops but we can’t look at that. That might cause issues for the wonderful religion of the NFL and hurt ratings and then affect the almighty dollar. Were this players issues known by the team and ignored? Perhaps a little intervention by team mates or the coaching staff could have helped this man and prevented what he did. I am so glad I gave up worshiping the NFL. Church and God are much more fulfilling on Sundays.
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Apple Bite
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:30pmNot sure about anyone else, but most domestic violence situations I hear about, include punches, brooms, frying pans, hot grits, etc… and have many hurt feelings attached. I rarely hear about the handgun used in a domestic violence issue.
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OldSurfRat
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:37pmLOL Apple
Love the Hot Grits. Thats great. You must live here in the south.
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Silvertruth
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:30pmThe source of the stats is telling. S.E. could only defend with how often women are defended by those same guns, and how firearms actual level the playing field for women. The stat didn’t say who was the homocide victim, the woman or the man. The domestic dispute doesn’t say that the dispute caused the death either.
In the end, handguns save far more womens lives than they take. S.E. is completely correct, but what she failed to do is to state the underlying case that removing a firearm from a home increases the actual risk of loss of life of everyone in the home- dramatically. 100% of unarmed homocide victims of criminal behavior died because they weren’t able to shoot back.
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502_eagle
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:59pm100% of unarmed homocide victims of criminal behavior died because they weren’t able to shoot back
I gotta remember that one!
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bgus88
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:29pmS.E. Cupp is right on this issue, as she is most of the issues she tackles. I wish I could find a woman like her some day. Rock on S.E.
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JungleTrump
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 8:17pmFollow the truth and you will meet many like her.
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Lord_Frostwind
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:29pm“Is it the football scores the field goal or the kicker?”
Always remember, September 11, none of those men were armed with guns, and still committed the greatest single mass murder incident in this nation’s history. Killers will always be one step ahead of the laws trying to curtail them. Either deal with the real problem or don’t do anything at all, because this stupidity is getting us nowhere.
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jman-6
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:38pmExactly as a gun doesn’t care if its legal or not! And bullets are nameless!
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paulhawk
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:26pmDon’t blame Bob….blame his microphone
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IWISHIWASINTEXAS
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:38pmHaha wonderful analogy :)
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grimmster
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:26pmS.E.,please you ought to know by now you can not argue with the liberal idiotic mind….
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OldSurfRat
Posted on December 3, 2012 at 6:20pmNice Job SE!!!
Spot on(:
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