Boehner Purges Fiscal Conservatives From House Leadership
In a discouraging sign for conservatives hoping the GOP will stay true to the fiscally conservative Tea Party message that won in 2010, House Speaker John Boehner has reportedly removed several of Congress’s most outspoken fiscal hawks from committees dealing with fiscal matters, citing their unwillingness to be “team players.” Business Insider reports:
The House Republican Steering Committee has purged Reps. Justin Amash (R-MI) and Tim Huelskamp (R-KS) from their seats on the House Budget Committee, and Rep. David Schweikert (R-AZ) from the Financial Services Committee.
The ousted congressmen are all far right-wing deficit hawks, and have each butted heads with the Republican Establishment over government spending and the federal deficit. All three members were part of a small group of Republicans who voted against House Budget Chair Paul Ryan’s budget proposal, which they said did not go far enough to bring down the national debt.
The purge sends a clear warning from Boehner that the Republican leadership will not tolerate inter-GOP squabbling as the budget negotiations heat up over the fiscal cliff — but there are signs that the iron-fist approach may backfire. Conservative groups, already displeased by the GOP’s initial fiscal cliff counter-offer, slammed Boehner for the move Tuesday.
One of the especially vocal critics of the move has been Michigan Rep. Justin Amash, one of the four removed, who has slammed the Republican leadership for its seeming willingness to sacrifice fiscal conservatism on the altar of defense spending:
For a party that’s trying to expand its base and make sure it reaches out to young people and new groups, I think it’s pretty outrageous,” Amash said. He called it “a slap in the face” to the growing libertarian wing of the Republican Party, noting that he voted along with leadership 95% of the time during his first term.[...]
Justin Amash (File Photo)
“It’s not acceptable to have budgets that are unbalanced to the year 2040,” he said.
Amash also disagreed with what he described as an entrenched view among Republican leaders that defense spending is off limits for cuts. He believes that while the nation’s military must remain strong, that defense spending should be on the table for reductions and that it could serve as a way to find a bipartisan agreement with Democrats on spending cuts.
“I think they (Republican leaders) are willing to raise taxes to avoid any defense cuts,” said Amash. “I think they’re willing to take really bad deals to avoid any defense cuts.”
With fiscal cliff negotiations at a stark impasse, this could signal that Speaker John Boehner believes he will be forced to accept a deal that contradicts fiscally conservative principles, possibly to a degree that the grassroots would see as problematic.
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Comments (451)
IWISHIWASINTEXAS
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:46pmThe Progressive GOP needs to shrivel up and cease to exist! They are helping to push us off the cliff. We need the conservative side of the GOP to rise up and take control of the party.
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Keatonc33
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:50pmConservatism is dying my friend. change or be left behind
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:15pmI’ve been saying all along Boehner is just another Communist ! Now we expose Mitch McConnell and that “Jackal” Eric Cantor for the traitor Communists they are !
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:16pmLet’s rename the Republican Party – The “Cave Man” Party because all they do is cave in !
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toiletclogga
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:17pmYes, by all means Boehner, remove the sane people from the negotiations! Weepy needs to go!
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jungle J
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:18pmKeatonc33…do you even understand what a tragedy that would be?
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ResistSocialism
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:19pm@Keatonc33 correction… change and be left and a behind
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encinom
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:23pmThe insanity of the Tea Partyis why the GOP doesn’t control the Seante and lost seats in the House. The Tea Party represents the old, cranky, bigoted uncle at evey family reunion whose rants are just ignored.
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mcsledge
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:24pmKeatonc33 – Change? When you are walking a path of self-destruction you either make ever attempt at righting the ship or you will go down with it. Conforming to today’s politics will not lead to prosperity. It will lead to faster national suicide. Econ 101 was not your friend I see.
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:26pmThey tried that, but guess what? It turns out that you’re not really the majority. Most Republicans are moderates.
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ResistSocialism
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:28pm@encinom cranky, bigoted sounds like you
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mcsledge
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:30pmencinom – Yes when you’ve held your hand out with palms up and suckled on the government teat for so long, I guess having someone say enough, take responsibility for yourself and family, reap what you sow, and quit violating my Constitutional freedoms (which have been stolen by unconstitutional courts, congress and presidents) – just doesn’t fly with you.
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From Virginia
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:32pm@Mytheos Holt – They aren’t far-right wing people, you MORON! They are fiscal conservatives and wanted to halt us going over the fiscal cliff. They are PATRIOTS!
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copatriots
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:40pmHello cliff…….here we come. Shouldn’t this at least be a little less predictable?
We officially have liberal leadership at every part of the “check and balance”.
America was great while it lasted.
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Kinnison
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:40pmJohn Boehner so doesn’t want to have this confrontation, because he and his “go along to get along” GOP House moderate colleagues do not represent the majority of the Republican Party’s rank and file. Far from getting his Conservatives in line in the Caucus, he is very liable to lose his job as Speaker over this. Conservative Republican Representatives were sent to Washington to get a handle on spending, shrink the federal government and hold the line on taxes, and that is what they are trying to do. This country is supposed to be about the rule of law, and for four years a Democratic President, with the help of his allies in the Congress, has been riding rough-shod over the Constitution and federal law. Enough: this has to stop, and if that means John Boehner’s time as Speaker is over, so be it.
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krod2516
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:42pmNo honey common sense conservatism is far from dead you silly little fool. We are now seeing who clearly we need to fight against. The players are showing who they are and we will defeat them, i can assure you that. Up until now the progressive republicans were trying to blend in with the Tea Party to secure their power. We can see loud and clear what side they are on. Boehner just over played his hand.
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copatriots
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:44pmIt is beyond time for the Tea Party to organize or become supportive of Constitutionalist or Libertarian causes.
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DarkJello
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:49pmThe majority of dems and repubs have given up on we the people. The trend is clear. Our dear leader, Owebama, will throw anyone under the bus that tries to stop Regressivism. And the regressives on the “right” are helping out, for fun and stuff. How much longer will we tolerate their lies, and clear betrayal of the founding fathers? I am guessing the answer is: “until it all comes crashing down.” And that is sooner than many think.
Good day, and may God bless!! We gonna need a miracle at this juncture.
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Advection
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:52pmYou’re absolutely correct. Conservatives need to flex their muscle and inform the leadership that they have the power to turn Obama into a lame duck NOW. What the hell can Obama do without money?
Republicans could make Obama crawl, and they should.
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oldguy49
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:55pm3rd party time……………….
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Stelex
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:59pmKitten….Change or be left behind. I’ll take the latter you little POS
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:08pmTraitor RINO’s strike again. Any true conservative should abandon ship and leave the GOP. GOP is dead.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:11pmChet – Excuse me if we shouldn’t give you leftists anything you want. You have no reasonable solutions and you’re just using the same failed Marxist ideology.
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:11pmJustin Amash was one of the last patriots in the House. One of only 3 who voted against the indefinite detention and the patriot act. This should be a declaration of war against the GOP. I guess it will be a two front war against the commie Democrats and the fascist GOP.
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JohnGalt
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:13pmkeaton, conservatism cannot die, it’s something built into the human mind. As a child i was liberal, as an adult I’m a conservative, age always makes us conservative in the long run. Except those who don’t grow up, there is always the exception.
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zatzaowe
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:18pmLIBERTY OR DEATH ! The TEA Party will cross the GOP Rubicon and sack the RINO city.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:18pm3rd party indeed….Better late than never
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TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:28pm@KeatonC33 Hell No!!! I will never change my standards. For people who play politics rather than care for our country, again, hell no. In two years if these fools can’t see to fit to stand for us I refuse to vote them. John Boehner needs to go.In actuality I wrote him quite awhile back I am done. DONE.
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usa91773
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:45pmYou guys don’t see that you are losing the arguments every day. You want to raise taxes on the middle class and protect the rich, you are throwing seniors on SS off the cliff, no health care for the needy.
Game, Set and Match , your’e done. You no longer have the numbers to support your ideas.
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cicero1776
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:13pmNow that NOBAMA has NOBOEHNER to lead around, like the
“good ole boys”. DOLE etc, it’s time to start IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS…For Liberty!!!!!
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Fubared
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:13pmKeaton
Communism hasn’t worked yet. Socialism is for those that steal and cannot do for themselves. Democrats have been co-opted. Sucks to be you when it hits the fan.
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StandingOnMyHead
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:25pmGOP: Grand Old Progressives
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wzanesdad
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:57pmadvection,
I agree…I don’t understand why they don’t withold the money. It seems like, because romney didn’t win they are willing to feed almost half the country to the wolves. Do they not realize that WE have the power of the purse? There needs to be a revolt in the house of representatives.
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americansfightingforcommonsense
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:00pmI have now lost ALL respect John Boehner and Eric Cantor for doing this. We DO NOT want you to give Barack Hussain Obama the keys to the country. Give him NOTHING. We do NOT need more tax revenues, we need a whole less spending. We need to de-fund Obamacare. Get your head out of the sand John and Eric. We need true leadership with Conservative values, and if you can’t do that then “GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN”!
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Grey Eagle
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:12pmActions have consequences. Boehner may find that out, because apparently he has not learned.
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American_Christian_Capitalist
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:14pmHey KEATON, ENCICOM, SIMPLETRUTHS, et al., let’s play a game. Let’s assume, God forbid, that your ideology runs its course, you get everything you want, etc. What then? What happens? Are you envisioning an episode of Star Trek where everyone wears simple clothes, lives in a beautiful, natural community, everyone has a certain job, there is no money, there is no want?
How many people have to die to acheive your utopia? Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, and many others have tried. They were ruthless, bloodthirsty, all-powerful, much-feared dictators, responsible for the murder of more humans in the 20th century than the rest of the entire history of the human race combined. It truly boggles my mind why you would want to see liberty extinguished.
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CutThePuppetStrings
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:34pmBalling boehner has got to go!!! He is a coward and moron unwilling to uphold the oath he has taken and enabling others to destroy the country as well.
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Raging_Waters
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:46pm@ANYONE WONDERING WHY THE RUPUBLICANS DIDN’T/WON’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE CLEARLY STOLEN ELECTION, HERE’S WHY:
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/
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TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:03am@Encinom Hey. You have it all screwed up. Get an education. Tea Party is insane? That is Barack Insane Obama’s middle name. And that is pure unadulterated power grabbing Insanity of all dictators. Now It would be really interesting to discuss it further except ho hum from the ice cream generation standing in for the greatest generation, those old cranky uncles who fought for your right to disrespect them, who were not bigoted as you suggest but patriots some who many of us would beg to be back among us yapping at the old dinner table. Those who do not listen never learn. Take it or leave it. Now I got a movie to watch.
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Bert in NY
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:03amHave we all forgotten 2010 Conservatism is a lifelong way of life. Besides someone has to be around when the progressives destroy the country to put it back together.
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BamaCon
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:16am@KeatonC33 Conservatism is not dying. Justin Amash is one of the youngest members in Congress. I’m 21 and I’m Conservative enough that I would vote for Barry Goldwater if he were alive and running today.
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RANGER1965
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:42amThe Constitution party is pretty interesting. It’s worth watching.
Seven Principles Of The Constitution Party:
■Life: For all human beings, from conception to natural death;
■Liberty: Freedom of conscience and actions for the self-governed individual;
■Family: One husband and one wife with their children as divinely instituted;
■Property: Each individual’s right to own and steward personal property without government burden;
■Constitution And Bill Of Rights: interpreted according to the actual intent of the founding fathers;
■State’s Rights: Everything not specifically delegated by the Constitution to the federal government, nor prohibited by the Constitution to the states, is reserved to the states or to the people.
■American Sovereignty: American government committed to the protection of the borders, trade, and common defense of Americans, and not entangled in foreign alliances.
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fixer
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 4:19amLike it or not….it’s time for a good old civil war.
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Simonne
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 4:54amThe Republican party is slowly being taken over by extremists & most of us are moderates. Where was the tea party in this past election? Some are ok but others are not. I once liked them now, not so much. I believe in compromise although I don’t want the Republicans to sell out either if they don’t get spending cuts. I’m beginning to think it wouldn’t be so bad to go over the fiscal cliff as we probably need it. It could also be the end for the Republican party because the electorates would blame them, not knowing any better. After seeing how many Republicans didn’t even vote in the last election, I’ve given up. We are a socialistic government now & I blame them & the media.
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AnnMarie
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 6:38amThe Republicans need to take a deep breathe, come to grips that the Presidential election was lost, and get a clear head. They should force a vote on the keeping the Bush tax cuts in both the House and Senate and let the Democrats vote against it thus promoting higher taxes on everyone and then deal with Obama and the Democrats. The dealing should stop now until the forced vote is done and then get everyone on the TV, radio and so forth pushing the reduction in spending. They should be saying Spending Reduction more than the word TAX, other than mentioning the ObamaTaxCare. Simple and far less of Reoublicans looking like the Keystone Cops.
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wesinLR
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 7:40amIts time to split from the gop… i say let the tea people claim a dif party , maybe when the gop sees that they could actually give back the house to the dems, (cause if the tea splits into its own party then the gop will stop being the majority. ) if the nation is going to die anyway let the rinos and dems drive the bus… why share the blame with crappy leaders?
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daveycrokett
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 7:53amk33 if conservatism dies so does the country, which it seems, most progressives are trying to accomplish
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 8:50amTraitor USA Said:”You guys don’t see that you are losing the arguments every day. You want to raise taxes on the middle class and protect the rich, you are throwing seniors on SS off the cliff, no health care for the needy. ”
Stop the Campaign Rhetoric ! You know very well Conservatives don’t want to stop SS, or tax the middle class or stop health care for the “truly” needed! What we do want is to stop the insane spending by the Commie-Crats and the reckless growth of government intrusion in our lives! You should be ashamed of yourself for making such a false statement!
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 8:55am“Like it or not….it’s time for a good old civil war.”
Well first you would have to get the brainless young people off of Facebook, Twitter and their cell phones!! Then you would have to teach them real history and why Socialism (They think this is Facebook) and Communism are so bad; so I’m afraid this will not happen usless the above is taken away and they get hungry !
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:00amOh get over yourself Keaton.
“will not tolerate inter-GOP squabbling”
Translation: Will not tolerate opinions different than the establishment RINO’s. Squabbling requires two or more parties, and he clearly didn’t remove the other side of the “squabblers”.
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:19amThere are no true fiscal conservatives in the GOP and the RNC. Fiscal conservancy is not in their best interests because it only carries negatives to their accustomed standard of living.
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kenboo1
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:43amisn’t the Speaker from Ohio – Obamaphone!!! Conservatism will reemerge when people decide its easier to take the government handout than work… Small business owners don’t think that way, but they might if they are continuously vilified by the very government they fund and support… Im getting on the government dole as soon as possible… the sooner we hit rock bottom the sooner we can get back to the things that really matter…
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soldado2187
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:49amIt is time for a 3rd real conservative party
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3Tesla
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 10:46amA fiscal conservative is considered a “right wing wacko”— sad but true.
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flyarmy2009
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 11:00amI’m done with the GOP. I’ll never give them another dime.
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decendentof56
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 11:06amWe Tea Partiers are at the end with not only Boehner, but all Rinos who continue to support the usurpation of power by Washington.
Tea Partiers are in the early stages of formulating a plan to rid Rinos, from local, county, state, and federal positions. It may take a couple cycles, but it WILL be done.
Whigs were replaced by Republicans, and Repub’s will be replaced by the Tea Partiers.
Get your people on the county Repub committee and choose the real conservative’s that you know who will abide by the Constitution and the rule of law.
I can’t stress enough the importance of getting on your county committee. It is an EASY job and very, very important. We will no longer even call it the Republican party.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 11:13amLibertarian Party, friends. The GOP continually betrays you (us), and gets worse every year that passes. To continue thinking that you can affect them is to live in denial. They are power brokers just like the Dems and don’t give two craps about us. The LP, if you haven’t investigated, probably has more in common with your beliefs than the GOP could ever hope.
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yougottabekidding
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 11:25amwhen is crying boy get voted out?
And you should have seen the faces on the liberals at work when the announcement came that changing nothing in their health care (even with less people will add $40,000 to the bill and management was not able to absorb that.
You wanted it, ENJOY!
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EdgeOfSanity
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 11:34amBoohoo Boehner blames Tea Party for losses in House . . . how about the re-gerrymandering as a result of the census!
He need to go and the only way is to support someone else in the primary because he is like Cockroach Harry who is in leadership for as long as their party has control.
If they don’t have the hutzpa to stand up to the Dems, then just vote “Present” and let the Democrats OWN what happens.
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BARELYHANGINGON
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:04pmhttp://www.constitutionparty.com/
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:11pmJust maybe its time to seriously consider switching :
http://www.lp.org/
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boncarbo7
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:06pmWe need more people that are willing to go go the extra mile when it comes to looking out for the interests of the people that voted for the GOP. Boehner and the rest of the supposedly Conservatives will fail to live up to why they were voted into office, THEY WILL CAVE AND OBAMA WILL LAUGH HIS ASS OFF ALL THE WAY TO MEET THE LIBERAL/COMMUNISTS THAT ARE RUNNING OUR COUNTRY.
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Cymry
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:26pmthe worst thing you can do to encinom is to ignore it. attention feeds the progs ego and if you starve their ego you take away their power.
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SquareHead
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:28pmGOP should purge Boehner
Watch him hand out cash bribes on house floor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAC2xeT2yOg
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LIBERALSAREMORONS
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:31pm@KEATONC33: “Conservatism is dying my friend.”
Yep. Just as it did in Greece and the other European countries that are going through a massive financial crisis due to progressive and liberal policies. Democrats have placed us on a straight line to failure and economic collapse.
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James
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:57pmMr. Boehner,
your the one who’s not a team player.
ESQ
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willie3081
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 2:15pmI agree with you and I’ll be there soon, and to keaton, if conservatism is dying, it’s time to step it up a knotch. There will only be two sides to this story, Socialism or Freedom, you must choose.
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papof6
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 5:00pmI voted to have MY ideals represented. The thing the GOP should address is to find politicians with a spine. Boehner was a poor choice from the beginning. I am finally for term limits, these ‘bipartisan” deals are for selfish, greedy, corrupted politicians to keep their jobs. The voters ALSO need spines to get rid of the likes of Boehner.
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TruthLivesOn
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 5:29pmMaybe we have forgotten that we are under control of a shadow government, as i point out Bush and John Kerry belong to the same skull and cross bones group, secret society of putting people in power. Why bet on 1 horse when u can bet on both of them, what is happening to us is by design by those looking to take power. As the salamanders in politics show their true colors we will weed them out and cast them into their proper trash bins. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for you are with me; your rod and your staff they comfort me. psalm 23:4. They may think they can hide in the shadows, my lord and savior shall shine the light on their evil schemes. It is up to us to discern what path we shall choose that is the question for humanity at this time. But, as for me and my house we shall serve the lord.
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Lamarr01
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 8:01pmThe difference between RINOs and democrats is comparable to the difference between COKE and PEPSI.
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Lamarr01
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 8:23pmThe Tea Party has many factions:
Libertarians
Constitutionalists
Limited Government
America First
Fiscal Conservatives
Social Conservatives (evangelicals)
Pro-lifers
Law and Order (rule of law)
Bitter Clingers (guns and bible)
These individuals have strong convictions, beliefs and ethics. The RINOs want political contributions so they can be re-elected and eventually become chairman of an important committee.
The RINOs loathe taxing the wealthy, super-wealthy and the obscenely wealthy become these people make big political contributions to both political parties and they expect a huge payback for their contributions. The Tea Party is a threat to this cozy relationship.
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HumbleMan
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 8:51pm@Keaton… please eat my shorts for dinner.
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naughtycal
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 7:33amGOP,DNC,LIBERTARIAN…..Whats’ the difference you can place whatever party you want in our Unconstitutional broken broke-ass government system and it’s still Unconstitutional broken and finanacially broke…….The problem is about political parties anymore the PROBLEM IS WASHINGTON…..It’s time to rebuild our nation from a soveriegn enforcing state level……We need state offical that will deny Washington the power it has assumed without Congressional or the tax payers approval……We need state to fully exercise the 10th amendment with extreme prejustice to instruct their officals they have juristictional power over all outside agencies and to detain all the try to enforce outside laws with in their soveriegn boundaries.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:46pmdont forget….Republicans in Congress were the ones who decided a couple weeks ago that Boehner and McConnell were the best ones to lead their party. When will they wake up? When will you wake up?
http://m.christianpost.com/news/old-guard-staying-pelosi-mcconnell-remain-in-leadership-posts-84953/
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justangry
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:03pmIt should have been blatantly obvious what Boehner was all about at the convention. He’s a snake commie enabler. The GOP are the wolves in sheep’s clothing. The ******** are out in the open with their love for oppression and tyranny.
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longknifed
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:23pmWe screamed from the bloody hills, and will do so until kingdom come, that this was the plan all along. Does this make any freaking sense? actually it does. They blackballed Ron Paul and now they are blackballing the principles this country was founded upon. GOOD, let them do it. Remember their names. Vote with your feet from now on. This is the OFFICIAL referendum on no longer recognizing the legitimacy of this government, this military or this controlled opposition.
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Oldmantex
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:50pm@ Soy I agree. I sent a message to day about Boehner and told him either do what it takes to remove him or I will no longer support him as my rep. He has been a good rep for a long time, but its time to be a statesman now and do what is right for the country. Ironic that I emailed him before this news came out.
I informed him that I will be voting libertarian, even when he is up for re-election if he does not do what is right.
We shall see where this goes. But people need to contact their reps. and get this tool our of power, tell them you wont vote for them if they fail. You would be amazed at how fast you get a response from a state rep, when you inform him you wont vote for him if he does not get things in order.
Make sure to tell them that you will ACTIVELY inform others to pass on his or her name as well. That seems to get them motivated. Self preservation and all…….
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Raging_Waters
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:09am@Ron Paul supporters
It wouldn’t have mattered if Ron Paul was the presidential candidate since he was running as a Republican. Democrats had free range to commit voter fraud thanks to the RNC Consent Decree signed 31 years ago.
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/
Did Ron Paul not know about this decree?
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UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:45pmWho couldn’t see this coming after the Republican National Convention?
First, they silenced the Libertarians
Second, they silenced the Tea Parties
Third, they took over both voices for themselves
Lastly, they’ve committed suicide right in front of our eyes.
We obviously live in a 1 party system, and I don’t think I like it.
The tree of liberty is evidently getting thirsty, the Jefferson recipe for its irrigation is more apparent with each passing day.
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BODYBAG
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:56pm@UNRECONSTRUCTEDLIBERTARIAN
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:45pm
We obviously live in a 1 party system, and I don’t think I like it.
The tree of liberty is evidently getting thirsty, the Jefferson recipe for its irrigation is more apparent with each passing day.
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You are now speaking MY language.
I say it is time to quench the thirst of the tree of liberty.
And yes, I do mean Jefferson style.
This nation has been usurped by elitist government class. They’re better than the rest of us. They make the rules but arent required to follow them. They use OUR money to buy off votes and bail out their friends. They enrich themselves and line their own pockets.
They’re the ruling class and “We The People” are the subservient class. Its exactly backward from what it should be. Until this changes you’ll remain a slave to a government that runs every aspect of your life and picks your pockets clean to prop themselves up.
“When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is Liberty”
Thomas Jefferson made that statement and it has never been more true than it is today. We The People need to Instill the FEAR OF GOD in in our elected officials. Until that happens, enjoy your chains & shackles and the bread crumbs they allow you to have after their feasts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-9p7FohoH4
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BODYBAG
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:57pmWhat exists right now is NO DIFFERENT than when our Founders were being abused by the British Monarchy. The King and his field marshals & generals learned to fear the Patriots who founded this country.
We are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights as a FREE PEOPLE.
Our current government has designs to, and essentially has succeeded in stealing this away from you.
It is very clear they intend to tax & spend this once proud nation into obliteration. Their purposeful intention is to crash this economy and the country. They’re taking everything you’ve ever had and everything you ever hoped to have in the future.
They have REFUSED to even pass a BUDGET for over 4 years which is in itself ILLEGAL.
Now they’re proposing unlimited debt increases by executive fiat.
What more proof do you need?
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EastTexas
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 8:27amAgreed!
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:47amWe are not talking about a civil war. The American Civil War had duly consitutied governments and military. We don’t have that. Our war will be a war of rebellion. That means we arm, gather and co-opt and/or kill the military at the nearest Reserve or National Guard armory. We need to go the the nearest USAF base and take the fighters, bomber, refueling tankers, helicopters with armament that we need to fight off the forces of the government and project our power. We will need to have enough military might to create our own government, convene a national assembly and declare our independence. We must send delegations to other countries to seek recognition.
We will have to wage war against the mightest military in the world whose members have sworn an oath to protect the Consitution. We can do it because there are many veterans out there. Unfortunately many are like me—in their sixties and older. Most of us won’t be able to hump a road march, set up an operating base and wage war.
This is not sarcasim. It is also not 1776 when it took a month to communicate between American and the UK.
This is not defeatist talk. It is reality. The only way we can win is to make our war one of politics not bulletes. We need to steal the Progressives playbook and become community organizers. The TEA Party needs to come together and define a political platform that is common rather than have several different groups claiming to be the TEA Party.
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nonofmybiznez
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:43pmMaybe its time the GOP finds a third party in their midst. Maybe it is a good time to split the house power structure. They will have to play ball if they want any assistance from the third party.
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:57pmForming a third party would be like splitting the New York Giants into two smaller football teams, and expecting that one of them will miraculously have a better record against the New England Patriots than the original team did.
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Fubared
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:13pmHey Chetty
Wait a min… Yeh, just checked and you have zero, zip, zilch, nada to add to the thread. Thanks for the visual from left field.
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Ohello
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:17pmDo unto organizations as they have done unto you. Just be nice to the individuals unless of course they are criminal and subversive to the Constiution. Nuremberg comes to mind. Communism, statism, and socialism inevitably resort to genocide in the final stage of implementation.
The frogs know they been cooked for the past 80 yrs. Not all have remained in the pot. Some will be the plague on the rulers until freedom is restored to His people. Freedom .. Freedom!…. Freedom!!!
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douglasfunk
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:09pmUmmmm Chet I do think the NY Giants did beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl …….twice
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subic
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:07amAs usual CHET doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:42amI never said the Giants can’t beat the Patriots, but half of the Giants can’t beat the Patriots, and half of the Republican Party can’t beat the Democrats. Not that I would mind that, I’m a Democrat. Go ahead and split into eight parties for all I care.
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Platonician
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 5:22amIn fact this is an excellent idea. It would totally destroy the one party, one ideology structure that rules America. It would debilitate the Dems as well as the GOP, which is good.
In England, a third party, the so called “Lib dems” plays major role in politics, the current “conservative” UK gov was formed thanks to their support.
This would give a voice and power to all those who feel disenfranchised by the Establishment of both corrupted parties.
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CrazyChicken
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 10:48amHey, Subic,..That’s where I’d rather be…..Least I’d have something to take my mind off this ****, a cold beer and a LBFM!
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Witness1974
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:43pmI am done with the GOP. For as long as I can remember the best the GOP has given us is conservative rhetoric coupled with progressive actions. It is time to abandon all progressives and put together a party that delivers on the promises of America. We need statemen who understand the Founding principles who can lead what has become an ignorant people back to the roots of the Tree of Liberty. I just can’t believe the people can stand for the continued treachery of the District of Columbia suits; why is there not a run on pitchforks and torches?
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HumbleMan
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:46pmI agree. I wrote to the RNC and said goodbye in no uncertain words.
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:17pmCount me in also – Done with the Republicans !
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From Virginia
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:36pmI’m there, too! Either another party has to emerge (our version of the UKIP in Britian to oust the Tories) or I’m staying home. I’ll never vote for the lesser of two evils again!
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Trail_Jumper
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:50pmI have to agree, witness. I don’t want to have anything to do with them. They constantly disappoint, their candidates are atrocious, and they can’t seem to keep a promise. Reagan would be disappointed too, I believe. So, what third party is going to step up to the plate?
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:20pmA valid 3rd party already exists….CONSTITUTION PARTY. They believe in the basic core tenants as republicans, without all the progressivism.
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chas2c
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:02pmMe too. We need Mark Levin to lead the new conservative party.
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TMOverbeck
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:35amI’d throw all my support behind the Libertarian Party. They believe in the basic core tenets of the Republican Party (fiscal responsibility, individual liberty/responsibility, states’ rights) without all the nanny-statism.
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CrazyChicken
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 11:08amI’m with you all the way, brother. Unfortunately, unless we have a revolution, all this talk is nonsense. The demographics and the uneducated trolls will always vote against conservative and traditional values. And what the hell chance do we have when they have drones and the power to blow us up right in our own homes( Indianapolis, Springfield) Natural gas explosions, my ****. The US government has turned on it’s citizenry. Our politicians, most of them, are traitors. So tell me, what future? Making plans to leave this once prosperous nation and taking my chances elsewhere. Destination unknown!
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dmforman
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:42pmLooks like it’s time for a third party. The Democrats and Republicans don’t have the values that I hold dear.
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SimpleTruths
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:03pmPlease do that, get a third party going. It assures the Democrats a long, long run. Heads I win, tails you lose.
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Platonician
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 5:33am@SimpleTruths On the contrary, it would debilitate both parties, that are in fact only one big party.
A third party would change the balance of power for good, as it will force both established parties to compromise.
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TMOverbeck
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:01amThat may happen at first, but once all the independents (and remember, there’s MORE of them now) see the promise of a strong third party, they just might flock there and draw a good number from the Democrats as well, and then the new normal will be Democrats vs. Constitutionalists or Democrats vs. Libertarians. I’m pretty sure there were a bunch of people who held their nose and voted for Obama, you’ll probably get them.
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CHANGE IT BACK
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:40pmTraitor…enough said.
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Royalkin
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:40pmStick a fork in it, the Republican party is dead. I refuse to support these liberals in conservative clothing any longer. I held my nose and voted for the lesser of two evils for the last time.
The weak-spined moderates refuse to vote for conservatives, and the conservatives refuse to vote for weak-spined moderates. How can this succeed? They must split, because they will never agree.
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loriann12
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:48pmI think I’m there too. I fell for the “don’t vote third party or Obama will win.” Well, he won. I think the Republican party needs to be purged of anyone who won’t stand their ground. You’re outta there.
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thibx
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:39pmthis man should not be speaker. what does he do after talking to oboma run and cry.
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Keatonc33
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:51pmWhy is every one on this page unable to spell Obama?
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ResistSocialism
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:20pm@Keatonc33 are you our resident spell checker
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338lapua
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:01pm@keaton. Do you have any issues we can actually HELP YOU WITH??? Being a silly little clown is funny……in first grade. Take your meds, eat your spagettios and DON”T STAY UP TOO LATE.
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:18pmBecause Obamy doesn’t deserve to have his name spelled correct. He is a traitorous dog not worthy to sit at the head of our once great nation. He is not qualified to shine my shoes.
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Fubared
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:07pmKeaton
it is simply 0. Not o, just 0. Are you even out of community college yet? Wanker withoutpeer is how you wish to stumble through life?
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BlackCrow
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:37pmRepublicans need two things, principals and a spine. They prove they have neither when they pull this sort of thing. RINOS will find themselves on the outside looking in soon enough.
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The-Monk
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:35pmAnd if Ron Paul or GJ was POTUS this still would have happened……..
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:42pmFor someone who doesnt support Ron Paul or Gary Johnson – you sure do think about them alot
“And if Ron Paul or GJ was POTUS this still would have happened……..”
Keep telling yourself that….Despite everything to the contrary.
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FISH_BONE
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:37pmMONK is 100% correct.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:47pmAmash and Sweikert are fans of Ron Paul. Why would Ron Paul or Gary Johnson throw them out of leadership positions and replace them with someone less Constitutional? That makes no sense
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Oldmantex
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:27pm@ Monk – You are right because he could not have stopped the Progressive republicans on his own. So the ***** would probably removed more conservative people from committee. BUT RP and GJ would not have signed anything those progressives pushed out to the WH desk. So we would have at least had a little defense. But since the lesser of two evils lost, we will rush head long off the cliff, with no potential for course correction in sight.
Id take a RP or GJ any day over these progressives in office.
But we have had this discussion before. Either you agree with the opportunity for each persons idea of freedom through states rights or you dont. There is no grey area, letting parties rule is just that, being ruled.
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flipper1073
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:27amThe Only Place that Progressives Outnumber
Conservatives is Washington DC.
(OK, an Large Cities on Both Coasts)
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Uncurable wound
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:35pmAllen West, I will follow you.Please lead us!
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jessieH
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:33pmWell, Boehner, just remember. What goes around comes around.
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HumbleMan
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:48pmHe needs to be removed. I don’t know how we do it … but this speaker has to go.
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TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:06pm@Humbleman What you do is scream (respectfully of course, with angst) at your congressman or woman representative who vote for the candidate nominated. You again scream that you do not want John Boehner. Also write him with your opinion.
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cloudsofwar
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:32pmi’m not looking for an agreement with the dems. and i don’t think we should cut defence spending at a time like this. i’m tired of repubs giving in to obama our dear leader.
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SimpleTruths
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:38pmWorking together to come up with a better solution? Yeah, horrible idea.
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rickc34
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:38pmA house divided will fall, he did what Obama wanted him to do. A new party is needed, I think someone suggested calling it the Patriot Party.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:45pmSIMPLETRUTH Yes Barrys idea of a better solution is communism,no thanks.
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qpwillie
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:45pm@SimpleTruths
Working together with Democrats is not going to come up with a better solution.
How much Marxism are you willing to settle for? For my part, ZERO.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:09pmSimplelies – Except you Marxists are using the same failed solutions that have been used in the past. Excuse me if I don’t want to suffer under your ideals.
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ResistSocialism
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:30pmDid he weep before or after the purge. Show us you care Boehner and weep.
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PapaJohannesPatriot
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:30pmBoehner, you’re taking after Obama’s lead. What happened to your oath of office? If you had a copy of it, how long ago did your shred it? Or is it just in the trash can like Obama’s?
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DougHuffman
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:28pmThe parties merge. ***** is Obummer’s right hand man, Pelosi is his left hand man.
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justangry
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:07pmI bet Pelosi has a bigger *******.
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Fubared
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:46pmDoes ******* = Paul’s Johnson?
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NBP Maryland
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:28pmNever heard from Boehner before the election. Then the day after the election he was out there try to make deals with the POTUS. He is not a good leader and does not rep us well at all. When will the party produce true leaders that rep us whether we will the argument or not. I want to be represented! Let’s go off the cliff, what do we have to loose? Leaders like this? I will take my chances!
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Gregb
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:34pmsounds like we need a new speaker of the house
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mercenary4freedom
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:37pm***** is a wuss & a cry baby. he needs gone!
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:53pmNBP – Check out this video – Finally 0 is getting tried in court for felony forgery.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/finally-a-judge-who-can-save-america/ WATCH THE Video and ENJoy.
Only thing is when, when 0 and Biden are out……Boehner becomes President…but then that might not be as bad as what we have presently………Wouldn’t that just be
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qpwillie
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:27pmThey’re getting everything ready. When there are only a few hours left, they will make a compromise with the Democrats. Obama will get what he wants and tell everybody it was a “bipartisan” effort.
It doesn’t take a crystal ball to know that, just an ability to remember.
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Depressed_American
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:26pmWell I am Officially Done with the Republican Party. I am an Independent for as long as Republican Leadership remains the way it is. They are NO BETTER THAN THE DEMOCRATS. BOTH Parties are destroying this country……..
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:34pmI have to agree with you, I wonder how far from a tyranny we now stand? Hours or days?
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krjones
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:39pmI am with you. Done with the GOP if they cave on this or pass an amnesty bill.
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338lapua
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:07pmI am agreeing with all of you. I just sent a request to the RNC to withdraw from all responsibilities. Fold it up regressives,I am done.
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Gregb
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:22pmwhat an oxymoron a boehner with no balls….didn’t think it was possible without the little blue pill.
I am very sad about the republican party, but I am not willing to become a communist. We need more of a voice from the tea party. at least a louder voice. Has everyone given up?
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FISH_BONE
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:24pmBoehner again proves his flaccid quality.
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338lapua
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:09pmHe is the “tickle me speaker”
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:24pmIt should be no surprise to anyone that the establishment GOP wants to remove the voices of the Tea Party from leadership. Even before this, its not like Tea Party has a ton of leadership positions – now the GOP wants ZERO Tea Party influence. Better start packing your bags for the Constitution Party, this train has left the station. Maybe when the republicans see their membership tank – they will open up the political process to allow for 3rd party (so that democrats dont win)
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/dean-clancy/romneys-rnc-power-grab-what-happened
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SimpleTruths
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:37pmI guess the election taught you nothing. American’s rejected the Tea Party and they are going to reject whatever you want to call yourselves in the future.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:40pm@Simple
“I guess the election taught you nothing. American’s rejected the Tea Party”
Who was the Tea Party candidate?
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The Third Archon
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:51pmYou won’t succeed in reforming the system from a 1.5 party system to a multiparty system without undermining BOTH faces of the entrenched beast that is the American party system–if Republicans fracture, all it would is that Leftists have every incentive to stick together under the Democrats so long as they don’t become any MORE conservative (and even if they did, if the Republicans were fractured it might not matter if they did things unpopular with their base and lost a few) in order to have a guaranteed monopoly on political power. The exact same applies in reverse to the Democrats fragmenting–that’s why anyone who cares about having ANY significance to their vote is forced into the 1.5 party system and cannot effectively combat it by abstention or third-party voting. We suffer from a massive collective action problem that spans the Right and the Left–that is the tragic double-bind we find ourselves in with respect to our electoral system. The only way we can escape it, is massive concerted action among the electorate–or violent insurrection. But the latter is probably even less likely to be successful (at least, in the absence of ALSO having strong consensus across the polity in support of such a revolution) given the stranglehold the powers-that-be have on the government and its implements of coercion (the military and the police).
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Git-R-Done
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:12pmTTA – Excuse me if this country shouldn’t have to suffer b/c of you selfish Marxists who don’t want to get off of your lazy butts to take care of yourselves.
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The Third Archon
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:07pmYou didn’t read a word I said, did you?
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Fubared
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:25pmTta
Wait, did I miss something where peeps do read what you write? When did that start?
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getourcountryback
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 4:12amsimpleton, I refuse to give in to socialist marxist progressive pieces of crap who think I need to goosestep and salute them. YOUR president, not mine, is your symbol? Smokin a doobie, in all of his Chicago thug glory……what a guy. I guess you and all the a holes that voted this garbage back in will find out when the rest of us stop pulling the wagon you freeloading entitlement grabbers are riding in.
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M40-A1
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:23pmThere is only one person in Washington who is more of a traitor than Obama. His name is John ‘The Coward’ Boehner.
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Depressed_American
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:33pmTotally Agree. He is the Leader of the House that CONTROLS GOVERNMENT MONEY/TAXES!!! He is worse than Pelosi or Reid. At least they are in the open about their contempt for the US CONSTITUTION…….
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copatriots
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:33pmYou can add CJ John Roberts to the list of traitors.
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thekuligs
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:22pmGreat move bone head!
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FISH_BONE
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:25pmDid you mean Boehn Head?
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:42pmlol
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l8e9x
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:49pmI agree, maybe it is time for the Speaker to be purged.
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Fubared
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:20pm***** needs to find another job.
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stopprintn
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:28pmFull time drunk maybe ? Oh, thats right he already has that one.
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