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‘False’: U.S. Gov’t Posts Blog Entry Debunking Mayan Doomsday & Other Apocalyptic Theories (Yes, Really)

The U.S. government’s official web portal has a message for all Americans, both young and old: The world will not be coming to an end in 2012. Rather than ignoring conspiracy theorists who fear that the Mayan calendar predicted an impending apocalypse on December 21, 2012, officials have apparently decided to tackle the rumors head-on. In a blog post published on USA.gov on Monday, the government assures citizens that doomsday rumors are patently “false.”

“False rumors about the end of the world in 2012 have been commonplace on the Internet for some time,” the article reads. “Many of these rumors involve the Mayan calendar ending in 2012 (it won’t), a comet causing catastrophic effects (definitely not), a hidden planet sneaking up and colliding with us (no and no), and many others.”

Watch NASA debunk these rumors in the following video:

The article goes on to assure readers that the world is not poised to end on December 21 “or any day in 2012.” This certainty will put people like Lu Zhenghai, a Chinese man who has built a massive “ark” to ensure he and his family survive an alleged flood he believes is coming later this month, at ease (then again, it’s unlikely he’s seen this blog post, as he’s still fast at work building his vessel).

While some may laugh off the government’s attempt to put people at ease, the article takes a serious tone in stating that these apocalyptic rumors have actually instilled quite a bit of fear in the populace, specifically children. The blog post goes on to note that NASA has purportedly received thousands of letters from individuals concerned about the end of the world.

“At least a once a week I get a message from a young person ― as young as 11 ― who says they are ill and/or contemplating suicide because of the coming doomsday,” explained David Morrison, a planetary astronomer and senior scientist for NASA.

Here’s another video debunk based on the Mayan calendar:

Considering this serious fact — that some young people are scared out of their mind — the government’s blog post takes a different tone than the 2011 tongue-and-cheek warning that the the Centers for Diseases Control and Prevention gave about an impending zombie apocalypse.

You can read NASA’s question-and-answer section, which covers fears about the end of the world here.

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Comments (117)

  • Peeb
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:39pm

    I hope it does end actually. I’m tired of paying taxes so people without jobs can live better than I do and now I find out that taxes are going to go way up under Obama, yeah give me low taxes, or give me the end of the world… knowing my luck, i’ll get neither.

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    • pavepaws
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:50pm

      This is premature isn’t it. It’s only the 4th. The government has been wrong before.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 4:59pm

      I know one family that’s paying no taxes and definitely living better off than you do – the Romney’s.

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    • LibertyOrDeath12
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:56pm

      This is what baffles me. Do these kids even look up the history on it or do they just hear a rumor and go with it? The Mayans never said anything about it being the end of the world. Us Humans just noticed that the calender ended on that day and automatically assumed that means the end. Maybe they just ran out of room. Did you ever think about that?

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  • truthnstuff
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:35pm

    Once again we have proof positive of of “gubermit” and human stupidity. Hello 24/hr news cycle.

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  • Brainmuffin
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:30pm

    The FEMA collection camps are fake too.

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  • cancerman
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:27pm

    It’s not going to end;BUT..
    “Something wonderful is going to happen”
    Isn’t it amazing on that day all the essential players are going to be in a perfect line towars this grren orb; and line up with the pyramids in Egypt?
    “Something wonderful is going to happen”

    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/08/december-3rd-2012-planets-align-with-giza-pyramids-for-the-1st-time-in-2737-years-2454374.

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  • termyt
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:54am

    Well, at least it would solve the debt crisis.

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  • GuruMeditation
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:33am

    Government worries me more than any such prophecy.

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    • THERAPTURCOMES
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:39am

      What on earth will the government say when the resurrection/rapture takes place http://youtu.be/ahEVxIzlxwo 1 Thes 1:10, 1 Thes 4:13-18, 1 Cor 15:50-55, Revelation 3:10

      As it is Isaiah 17:1, Isaiah 19, Zech 12, Psalm 83 are all taking place right before their eyes as I type this.

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    • chips1
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:08pm

      The world has ended. News at 11.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:01pm

      THERAPTURCOMES
      They won’t say anything because your fairy tale isn’t going to come true. That’s the thing about fairy tales, they are just fairy tales.

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  • historyguy48
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:55am

    The Mayans believed that the Earth went through major epochs, periods of time that ended and started abruptly. The current period began roughly 5300 years ago when the Earth became abruptly cooler. This change has been borne out in ice cores, along with actual physical evidence, plants uncovered by glaciers that no longer grow where they were uncovered, flash frozen Mastodons that still had buttercups in their mouths.
    Right now evidence makes it appear that the new epoch will be a far warmer epoch, probably similar to the way the climate was prior to the start of the current epoch, when a large portion of Antarctica was not under it’s mile thick ice cap.
    Will that change things, cause disruptions? Of course. Areas that are now fertile may become deserts, other areas may become jungles. There is nothing mankind can do about it either way.
    Although the “global warming” rip off artists will have a field day!

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    • OniKaze
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:42am

      I agree… I totally believe in “Climate Change”…. Happens EVERYDAY…. Some of us “normal” folks call it “the weather”…..

      But you will hear nut jobs like Gore clamoring for attention every time the temp. changes… All in the name of “saving the planet” (which we all know is Lib speak for, “Raise taxes and milk money off of the idiot populace that bought the non-sense” )

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    • Spqr1
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:12pm

      Weather and Climate are not the same thing. If you don’t know the difference, you’re too stupid to vote.

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    • Ken2
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:39pm

      I think it’s Nat Geo that’s running a show that laid out the theories and evidence contained in your post. Guess what they say will cause the world to end? 5,4,3,2,1…yep; Global Warming.

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  • tommy.tommy
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:10am

    As Jesus said, no man, no angels, and even, Jesus doesn’t know? The hour or day. When God will destroy this end of this age. Just think? No false christ catholics, no evil politicians, no filthy atheists, and no more nasty homosexuals. That’s the good news in the future. Man, I can’t wait

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    • THERAPTURCOMES
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:40am

      Jesus is back in heaven and knows exactly the day and hour.

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    • tommy.tommy
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:55am

      Liar! Where in the Bible does it say that, hmm? No where! God will tell Jesus? When he’s ready to end this world….

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    • goahead.makemyday
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:06pm

      TOMMY your going off the belief that Jesus is only the son of God and isn’t actually God. Many of us here believe differently. If you go off the belief that Jesus is actually God just in the flesh then yes he would know since he isn’t man but God and only God knows. BTW could you find a pic that best describes you or interests you for your profile pic? It help me figure out a person’s personality with a picture than just your words.

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:36pm

      The Trinity is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. They are distinct persons but One God. One not subjugating the other, but co-eternal and co-equal in Their One Divine Nature. The Son is begotten of the Father by an eternal generation, and the Holy Spirit proceeds by an eternal procession from the Father and the Son. So the Father can know what the date and hour is without the Son knowing until the Father tells Him. Furthermore, Jesus Christ is both Human and Divine, again one not dominating the other (aka Hypostatic Union) but equal in Nature.

      To be sure this is just the basics that can fit in this type of forum.

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    • tommy.tommy
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 4:50pm

      Goahead, I don’t need pictures of false idols of Jesus, Mary, and body parts. Like you fables catholics needs to worship or put on pictures on your selves. Which it’s violation of the 10 commandments of God. Jesus said, no one will see the father. Meaning, Jesus is the door way. So, you have to pass the 1000 years Judgement to see God. Also, I know? You fables catholics teach you go to heaven, wrong! And burning forever. ha ha Man, what such lies? You fables catholics teach. It’s that b/s dogma crap, you teach and that misdirect. You teach very well. I have to say that. lol

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    • tommy.tommy
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:52pm

      Paxin
      Back in the days of the pagan catholic church in the dark ages. The pagan catholic church was killing people by getting knowledge from the Bible. The people in the past “knew?” The fables catholics is liars and still is, today. ha ha. Plus, the fables catholics knows this, today. That’s why? They use that b/s dogma crap and that misdircet “today” to tell you lies. The pagan people was the first ones to have “trinity” and later on? The pagan catholic church adopted it. Like other pagan holidays the catholic church adopt as well. Which it’s a violation to add pagan stuff to God. You can say? The pagan catholic church is the father of lies. Which it’s true.

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    • Wisdom7
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:26pm

      Is there really a need to attack each other on the matter? This isn’t really the forum for that type of discussion is it?

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    • tommy.tommy
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:51pm

      Well wisdon7?
      It’s better to learn the truth. Than, living in lies, right? Like I said, before? I’m order to tell the truth by God. If you know the truth? But carry on a lie…..is lies. That’s difference. Alot of fables catholics will say? They can’t change their ways. They sound like homosexuals. Also, they sound like? They was born that way. lol. I’m just tired of hearing lies from the fables catholics. Because, they made this mess in America. Plus, they don’t live true in the Bible.

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    • brigott
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:49pm

      Tommy.Tommy,

      May I suggest that you express yourself clearly in English, using complete sentences and thoughts?

      I’m really struggling here trying to figure out exactly what you are trying to say. I think you well may be right on some ideas, but your sentences are so poorly constructed and your syntax is so rough that I really don’t know what you are trying to say.

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    • tommy.tommy
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 7:56am

      Truth hurts, huh? That’s too bad. lol

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 3:24pm

      TOMMYTOMMY… I don’t know how it is a lie when Jesus says in the Bible: John 10:29-38; John 14:25-36, and is attested to by witnesses as to the Holy Spirit: Matthew 3:16-20; Mark 1:7-12 (please note well; “12 And the Spirit immediately drove him out into the wilderness.” The Spirit compelled Jesus Christ into the desert, not God the Father. Therefore, it is the Will of the Spirit that Jesus complied with and thereby confirming the Spirits Authority.); Luke 3:21-22; Acts 2:2-4. All these passages confirm the nature and relationship of the Trinity to Itself.

      Now, to say that this is a lie is to say that; firstly, that Jesus is a liar; secondly, that the Bible has false teaching and thereby that the Holy Spirit lies. To say that the Holy Spirit lies about Itself is to say that God the Father and the Son lies, which is an impossibility for God is Truth.

      Take a breath, forget your hatred of Catholics (for hatred only comes from the deceiver and it is blinding you) and reconsider what you said. Peace In Truth.

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 3:28pm

      I have to ask… are you ITSJUSTTIM?

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    • tommy.tommy
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 7:10pm

      Pixin
      Tell me? Where’s the word “Trinity” in the KJB. No where. I have never seen the word “trinity” in the Bible or the disciples never say anything about the word “Trinity”. I heard, the pagan people have trinity first. Which you fables catholics adopted it to your pagan church and spread it to other churches. So, you believe in Jesus words, huh? What’s up your priests by call themselves “the father” Matthew 23:9 Doesn’t sound like you fables catholics follow Jesus words. It sounds like “hypocrites” to me. I don’t hate catholics at all. I just don’t like their lies, corruption, greed, and their evil. It seems, we have a fable catholic in office or they came from their. Everything goes to crap. Even Hitler was raised as a catholic. It’s amazing, isn’t it? I just explain God is God and Jesus is the son of God. In Rev has last words. Who’s God and his Christ. I have realize? You catholics don’t follow God’s 10 commandments, God’s laws, and you fables catholics is stepping out of the boundaries of the Bible. Sound like, you’re make yourselves as gods. Really, I just expose the truth about fables catholics. That’s all.

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    • tommy.tommy
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 7:45pm

      Pixin
      Tell me? Where’s the word “Trinity” in the KJB. No where. I have never seen the word “trinity” in the Bible or the disciples never say anything about the word “Trinity”. I heard, the pagan people have trinity first. Which you fables catholics adopted it to your pagan church and spread it to other churches. So, you believe in Jesus words, huh? What’s up with your priests by calling themselves “the father” Matthew 23:9 Doesn’t sound like you fables catholics follow Jesus words. It sounds like “hypocrites” to me. I don’t hate catholics at all. I just don’t like their lies, corruption, greed, and their evil. It seems, we have a fable catholic in office or they came from their. Everything goes to crap. Even Hitler was raised as a catholic. It’s amazing, isn’t it? I just explain God is God and Jesus is the son of God. In Rev has last words. Who’s God and his Christ. I have realize? You catholics don’t follow God’s 10 commandments, God’s laws, and you fables catholics is stepping out of the boundaries of the Bible. Sound like, you’re make yourselves as gods. Really, I just expose the truth about fables catholics. That’s all. oops, I’m eaten food. My name is not tim. Same to you peace.

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 10:09pm

      I can now empathize with BY FAITH.

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    • tommy.tommy
      Posted on December 6, 2012 at 6:32am

      Paxin
      The truth and faith goes hand by hand. You can not divide them both. The true roots of “trinity of paganism” came from Babylon and later on, your catholic church adopted it. The catholic church has blinded you with lies. The only thing, I can say to you? You better find the truth in the Bible. Because God and his son Jesus wants you to find the truth and live by it.. Like it said in the Bible? Prove all things is true. The new age is coming and Jesus will rule with the iron rod of God’s commandments.

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    • RestoreFederalism
      Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:14am

      What name did he use before ITSJUSTTIM.

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  • Mandors
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:05am

    When NASA, the agency known, for saying “Oh, there’s nothing unsafe with shuttle, bring it home” TWO times, killing 14 astronauts, now says there’s nothing to the end of the Mayan Long Count, be afraid.

    Very afraid.

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  • ArmedAndReallyPissed
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:03am

    If this “Government” says it’s false, then you know it has to actually be true. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • rocktruth
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:29am

    I would be more concerned about the events which surround Israel and other biblical prophecies happening on a daily basis.

    http://prophecyupdate.com/prophecy-news/

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  • Brad Wesselmann
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:20am

    I’m more interested in the catastrophes that have already happened like what happened in Benghazi on September 11th? Why has our legislature been writing laws and allowing regulation and executive orders to be put in place that eliminates their own relevance? Why does Congress want to give power to the executive branch for spending limits? If our legislature is no longer relevant, what laws will we be governed by, the UN perhaps? If so, at what court will we bring our appeals, a “world” court? If so, then the Supreme Court would also be irrelevant and would we then become just a nation state with only the President as our voice in the global government? Why is the administration looking for ways to persecute businesses for international law issues like what they did and are doing to Gibson Guitars?

    These are just a few things that could be slightly more important than the Mayan Apocalypse. If nothing happens, we still have to solve all of these problems and if something happens then we are dealing with a new deck of cards. Wake up before the chains are on our feet instead of just our minds.

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  • azcowboy1
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:15am

    He said it wouldn’t happen anytime in 2012. Read between the lines. I think it’ll be Jan 2 2013 when O swears on the Quran to uphold the constitution, opps BIBLE (sorry). Thats gotta piss off the big G. :(

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  • toomuchgovt
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:12am

    At the rate this govt. is spending America will surely end. The Mayans may be right after all, without America the world will definitely change. I’m not saying America is so perfect, but throughout history we have been a beacon of light and freedom.

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  • Stelex
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:07am

    This will be my 4th I believe “end of days” hehh, they never get old.

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  • TheMajority
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:03am

    I am not worried about natural disasters ending the world. I am worried about this 2-party system ending the world. To this administration and the 2-party system, the end of the USA is not the end of the world, but a beginning.

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  • momrules
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:53am

    Darn. If the government tells me something I immediately believe the opposite. Now they are saying the Mayan calender prediction that the world will end on December 21st is bunk. So, does that mean the world WILL end after all?

    What to believe, what to believe………….

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    • JESUS-IS-GOD
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:00am

      If you really want to know what to believe then read Revelation in the bible. You will get all the knowledge you need to understand what is going on.

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    • DadRocked
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:02am

      I’m glad I read to postings so as not to duplicate with my response
      .
      “‘False’: U.S. Gov’t Posts Blog Entry Debunking Mayan Doomsday & Other Apocalyptic Theories”
      Like you Mom, Dad now believes it as a possibilily. On the other hand, there are those that believe that OUR country is NOT on the path of destruction… Then again, there are many more of us that have been saying that the doomsday clock began in NOV ’08.

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    • tommy.tommy
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:21am

      Jesus is God.
      Jesus is not God. But he’s the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. The son of Man. If you read in Rev? The kingdoms of this world? Belongs to God and his Christ. God indentify himself as the one God.

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:40pm

      Tommy,

      Jesus is God or a liar. You can choose which you believe, but Jesus calls himself God on several occasions.

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    • tommy.tommy
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 4:29pm

      Dan-0
      Jesus said, God is greater than him in the Bible. On Jesus robe? It’s said, King of Kings and Lord of Lords and Jesus is the most high. Which it’s true. It doesn’t say? Jesus is God. That’s why, it said in Rev? God and his Christ. Meaning, they’re two people. Also, that’s why? You’re backwards. But that’s you. ha ha If you read the whole chapter of Isaiah 44? God tells he’s one and no other. God is the first and the last.

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:28pm

      Tommy,

      Is Christ eternal?

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    • tommy.tommy
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:33pm

      JDan-0
      Jesus is the son of God. Which it tells you alot times in the Bible.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:39pm

      Anyone who reads John 17:1-5 and still does not understand who Jesus Christ is, should keep quiet so as not to mislead those who would be searching for accurate understanding.

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:38pm

      Dan-o – “Jesus calls himself God on several occasions.”

      Where does Jesus claim to be GOD? Where is that written?

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:39pm

      Tommy,

      Thank you. By not answering my question, your heresy is exposed, and that is the goal.

      John 10:22-39 it is explicitly stated several times Jesus and God are one, John 20:28, Thomas calls Jesus “My Lord and My God”, but Christ does not say, “no, no, no, I am only His Son”, not to mention John 1 and Genesis 1:26 (Let US make man in OUR image), etc., etc.

      WhiteFang, I hope you are not denying the Triune nature of God, too. The simplest way to put it is the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is not the Father, but all 3 are God.

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:41pm

      Blacktooth,

      [29] My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. [30] I and the Father are one.”

      (John 10:29-30 ESV)

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:49pm

      Dan_O -” The simplest way to put it is the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is not the Father, but all 3 are God.”

      Well where is that written? Are you just making this up as you go?

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:53pm

      See above, Blacktooth. Your snide comment indicates you cannot defend your position.

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:25pm

      Blacktooth,

      See also Romans 8:8-9: [8] Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. [9] You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to Him.
      (Romans 8:8-9 ESV)

      The 3, (God, Spirit and Christ) are used interchangeably.

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:37pm

      Dan_O – “I and the Father are one.”

      Is that meaning Jesus is God? Or does that mean they are “one” in purpose and “one” in agreement? Just as if I said; I and my father (Dad) are one. Does that mean I and my Dad are the same person? Or does it mean we are together in thought and purpose working together?

      I am not trying to insult you, just trying to get some thinking into what Jesus meant by saying that. Whitefang suggested John 17:1-5. Do you not see the reason for that scripture? By reading that, can we come away thinking Jesus is God? I can’t.

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:59pm

      See also John 14:16-23 and Rom 8:8-9, if you missed it above.

      Blacktooth, is Christ eternal? Who are the We and Our in Gen 1:26 or the Us in Isaiah 6:8? Can there be more than one eternal being?

      What about Thomas to Jesus? “My Lord and my God”.

      If God is simply God, why is He repeatedly referred to as God the Father?

      The clearest answer to these question is the Eternal and Almighty Creator are three distinct persons, One God.

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:17pm

      I do not agree with that view of John 17:1-5 at all.

      John 17:1 “…Glorify Your Son…”
      - See Isaiah 42:8 and 48:11 – “I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols.” -and- “For my own sake, for my own sake, I do it, for how should my name be profaned? My glory I will not give to another.”

      John 17:5 – [5] And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.
      - So again, either the Son is asking for glory in error or He is God. Also, Christ was with God before the world. We know (and agree I assume) Christ was without error and in the perfect will of the Father. If that is true, how can He ask for something that He knows is not His?

      [6] “I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word.
      (John 17:6 ESV)

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:20pm

      Dan-O,

      I don’t think you are ready or willing to think about this subject, as you are stuck on the trinity doctrine. But if you are interested to contemplate a couple of scriptures, I will give you these:
      Colossians 1:15-17, John 14:28, Philippians 5:2-8, 1 Corinthians 11:3, 15:28

      These scriptures have to be considered in identifying the nature of our Lord Jesus, the Christ of God.

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:30pm

      Dan-O
      You do not agree with Jesus’ prayer at John 17:1-5 at all.

      Well, then I will now say good night to you.

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:58pm

      Blacktooth,

      I don’t think you are ready to think about this subject as you are stuck on the Mormon (assuming) doctrine. You’re going to have to do better than that. Maybe start by refuting the position I take on the scripture references.

      Col 1:15-17 – How can Christ be firstborn of creation and ALL things created through Him? It is more likely this verse is used in the same sense as Romans 8:29, firstborn as in the model for all given to Him as His followers. See also John 1:1-3 (and all the way through 14, but 1-3 for this point). [1:1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] He was in the beginning with God. [3] All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

      John 14:28 – …the Father is greater than I…
      - See Phil 2:5-7 [5] Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, [6] who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, [7] but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. (Philippians 2:5-7 ESV)

      Philipians 5?

      1 Cor 11:3 [3] But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.
      - Yes, still 3 persons, One God.

      1 Cor 15:28 – Fits in fine with 3 persons, One God.

      Not just these verses, but ALL scripture must be considered when identifying the nature and character of th

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:01pm

      Blacktooth,

      Now that’s just juvenile. That is not what I said. Read the post or don’t bother replying, please.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:04am

      Dan_o,

      I think the problem here, is that you want to tell us what the scriptures say, but unwilling to let the scriptures tell us what they say.
      You told Blacktooth “I don’t think you are ready to think about this subject as you are stuck on the Mormon (assuming) doctrine. You’re going to have to do better than that. Maybe start by refuting the position I take on the scripture references.”

      I and my brother Blacktooth are attempting to let the Bible speak for itself but you want the scriptures to agree with you and your triune god beliefs.
      Please be assured we recognize the true God Jehovah as the Father Supreme and His Son Jesus is the Christ or the anointed one of God, sent by God to be a ransoming sacrifice for all our sins.. We also acknowledge God’s Holy Spirit as the Holy Scriptures describe God’s active force. Jehovah is God the Father. Jesus Christ is God’s Son. The Holy Spirit is God’s powerful active force that He and His Son uses to make God’s will to be done.

      Blacktooth left because he perceived you to be unreasonable and not respecting scripture as it is written. And you assumed he was a Mormon, you assumed wrong.

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    • tommy.tommy
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 8:22am

      Dan-O
      You’re fruit cake. I have to say that. Jesus is not God. Because God and the son of God has different minds. Like in Rev proves that “God and his Christ.” Meaning, God is one to himself and his Christ.. Now, if Jesus was God? Why didn’t it say in Rev? The Kingdoms of this world belongs to Jesus, only. It doesn’t say that . You fable. Jesus pray to God. That knowing, God is God. Than, him. Also, tell me? What religion you come from? Then, I can understand you. You sound like a fable catholic. Who spread lies. lol

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:03am

      I am not writing to defend myself, but scripture. If the 3 of you have nothing left but to talk about me, then I think we can conclude this chat.

      If you want to talk about the positional statements I made and the supporting verses I provided, please continue.

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    • tommy.tommy
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:49am

      Dan-0
      We need a true teacher and it’s Jesus. the KJB, and his disciples. It’s coming soon. But I will never accept the fable catholic church at all.. There’s too many violations with that church and their false christ teaching. I will leave you with that.

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:31pm

      Tommy, I am not catholic and attend a non-denominational Bible church.

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  • qpwillie
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:46am

    Well, if the world does end on Dec. 21, and all life on earth is destroyed, won’t they feel foolish when they have to admit they were wrong. I can’t wait to hear how they try to explain away their “miscalculations”. I’m gonna say “Ha ha, you were wrong. The world did end and you said it wouldn’t.”.

    …..Oh wait – ……. Nevermind.

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:26am

      “They” are only preaching to the choir (Democrats) who will buy anything.

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    • reality based lifeform
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:30am

      thats an easy one the Whitehouse already has the press release all set to go .

      If the world ends it’s Bush’s fault and if the Mayan’s were wrong? again it’s Bush’s fault .

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  • ares338
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:43am

    Oh yes……..the world has ended many times throughout history. This existence is just a fig newton of your imagination.

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    • DougHuffman
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:00am

      Or a confirmation of the many worldlines-multiverse hypothesis. As a worldline gets pinched off, an infinity of equally probable alternatives are spawned. Pray to Ariadne that your consciousness rides the longer thread.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:40am

    The real catastrophe is Obama and the Democrats.

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:48am

      BINGO…

      My question would be, “How could they possibly know ANYTHING about the end of the world?” since they are GOD-less by their own choice and three-time vote. Aren’t they going to be surprised?

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    • TheMajority
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:07am

      Tell me how representitive the Republican party is for you.

      I don’t think you have any representation. I know I don’t.

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  • DougHuffman
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:40am

    Hmmm, I am under the impression that NASA’s mission, set by The Jerk Obama and his sycophant Bolden, is to kiss ass on Islam, not defend the extinct Mayans.

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  • biohazard23
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:30am

    Really? This was necessary? Doesn’t the govt have anything better to do like, oh, I don’t know, CUT THE DEFICIT AND IMPLEMENT ENTITLEMENT REFORM???

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:52am

      Nah they’re too busy destroying our future by ensuring depression part II with idiotic talk of raising taxes in the worst economy since depression part I. Doomsday was in Nov.08 when a skinny Marxist POS fooled the masses into thinking he had their interests at heart.What’s worse is he fooled the simpletons again,now we’re all going to pay,dearly.

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    • starman70
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:57am

      I can’t believe that some official of our government, already $6.3 trillion in debt would waste his time blogging such inane commentary! How much does this dude collect fromthe taxpayers every week in the form of salary, healthcare and retirement benefits? If some people are SO STUPID as to commit suicide because of the DEC 21st predictions, then all they will do is cleanse the gene pool.

      This proves that it’s high time to reduce the number of useless government employees!!!

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    • JESUS-IS-GOD
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:02am

      That is coming next!

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:35am

      Good morning BIOHAZARD, and PROGRESSIVESLAYER, I’ve been hearing and reading a variety of stories on this. There are some people who fall for these absurdities just like global whining.

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:01am

      Good morning, RJ! Heard from Gonzo yet? :)

      You know, it’s harsh but I have to agree with Starman. This end of the world crap could be the biggest shock treatment for our gene pool.

      Now, if Dear Leader and his lemmings have their way, it might not be such a bad thing if the Mayans were correct.

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  • Mapache
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:30am

    How do they REALLY know? Nobody expected the tsunami of 2005. Of course this is from the same government who on the CDC website has preparations for the ‘zombie apocalypse.’ It is hard to take our government seriously anymore. It is just an organization of thieves who take peoples property and expect those very same people to provide them a salary and weapons in order for them to do it.

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  • M13
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:28am

    If the world does end on December 25th, will it end during eastern, central, or pacific time? Or will the idiots in Europe go first? Just asking.

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    • M13
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:36am

      On December 21st, sorry.

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    • AmericanStrega
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:27pm

      Well, that’s a very good question. I live in Central time. Maybe we will all get a head-up if it happens in a time zone previous to ours/yours? Well heck, what would it matter? If it’s the end of the world as we know (play the REM song here) who’s going to care and what the heck is anybody going to do about it? Whether it be God or Mother Nature, it isn’t going to matter. Humans cannot stop it. Heck Al Gore (idiot) cannot stop it. As crazy as this may sound. My husband and I have taken vacation day from work for Dec. 21st just in case it’s not a total end of the world and just a world wide riot. Better to be at home with the prep than be 30 miles from home and have to walk all the way….

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  • blanco5
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:28am

    Well, if it comes from the government then it MUST be true. They woudln’t lie to us.

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    • Tigress1
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:22am

      The government and Progressives like to sprinkle a little truth in the midst of their lies. It makes them appear more credible. If the world does not come to an end on Dec. 21st, then they simply told the truth. Therefore, we should believe EVERYTHING they say. After all, they are much more knowledgeable and intelligent than we are! If the world does end on Dec. 21st, well, uh, too late.

      The truth is that the government does not know whether the world will end on Dec. 21st any more than the rest of us. Personally, I think Dec. 21st will be the safest day ever, because the Bible says that nobody will know when the end will come. God can’t possibly end the world on Dec. 21st because too many people will be expecting it! :)

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    • chips1
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:21pm

      TIGRESS1:
      It might not be the safest day. Leo Terrell is going to buy a gun!!!

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