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Ron Paul Criticizes CIA, Brands Them as ‘Every Bit as Secretive as the Federal Reserve’

Dec. 4, 2012 7:15pm
Ron Paul Calls CIA As Secretive As the Federal Reserve When He Learns of DODs Transformation of DIA

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The retiring Congressman Ron Paul has long made known his opposition to the federal reserve and the CIA. In a recent comment he pulled the two together titling a post on his website as ”The CIA Is Every Bit as Secretive as the Federal Reserve.”

Paul cited a Washington Post article posted Saturday that described how the Department of Defense’s Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) was sending close to 1,600 spies overseas in the name of national security and thwarting emerging threats. Paul wrote on his website:

Thousands of new DIA spies are to be hired and placed undercover to help foment even more covert wars and coups in foreign lands. Where will it all end?

Greg Miller for the Washington Post wrote with the changes expected for the DIA, it will rival the CIA in size. Here’s more from Miller’s article on the agency’s transformation:

The sharp increase in DIA undercover operatives is part of a far-reaching trend: a convergence of the military and intelligence agencies that has blurred their once-distinct missions, capabilities and even their leadership ranks.

Through its drone program, the CIA now accounts for a majority of lethal U.S. operations outside the Afghan war zone. At the same time, the Pentagon’s plan to create what it calls the Defense Clandestine Service, or DCS, reflects the military’s latest and largest foray into secret intelligence work.

The DIA overhaul — combined with the growth of the CIA since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks — will create a spy network of unprecedented size. The plan reflects the Obama administration’s affinity for espionage and covert action over conventional force. It also fits in with the administration’s efforts to codify its counterterrorism policies for a sustained conflict and assemble the pieces abroad necessary to carry it out.

Miller reported a former military official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, saying “the stars have been aligning on this for a while.”

The “collectors,” as Miller reported the agents being called, will be trained by the CIA and work with the U.S. Joint Special Operations Command, but have their own assignments for the DOD.

The purpose of the DIA overseas collectors will be to gather intelligence that the CIA is not.

“We are in a position to contribute to defense priorities that frankly CIA is not,” a senior Defense Department official told Miller.

“[It] amplifies the ability of both CIA and DIA to achieve the best results,” said CIA spokesman Preston Golson in the Washington Post.

So where exactly is Paul concerned with the relationship between the two? He sheds more light on this pulling out an excerpt from a 2010 speech he made in Atlanta:

“There’s been a coup, have you heard? It’s the CIA coup. The CIA runs everything, they run the military. They’re the ones who are over there lobbing missiles and bombs on countries. … And of course the CIA is every bit as secretive as the Federal Reserve. … And yet think of the harm they have done since they were established [after] World War II. They are a government unto themselves. They’re in businesses, in drug businesses, they take out dictators … We need to take out the CIA.”

According to Miller, the CIA might might gain advantages to having a closer relationship with the DIA. These might include ”assurances that its station chiefs overseas will be kept apprised of DIA missions and have authority to reject any that might conflict with CIA efforts,” Miller wrote.

Here’s raw footage captured of Paul’s speech:

Be sure to check out Miller’s full article in the Washington Post for more details on the DIA’s changes and what they could mean here.

What are your thought’s on Paul’s views regarding the CIA? Let us know in the comments below.

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Comments (137)

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  • AUsername
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:51pm

    there known for drug smuggling opium and other drugs and stuff.

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  • WAKEUPUSA2012
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:21pm

    Lol Time get a life dude. Quit trolling.

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  • Immental
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:12pm

    I’d vote for him to be president even if he were in the gave. His foreign policy is to die for.

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    Immental  
    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:24pm

      Some wise poster on this site once said……”if you didnt go to Iraq….Iraq will be coming to you”

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    • Ohello
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:30pm

      Check out the new mosque at ground zero, the Iranians, and Saudi are here. See they local mosque in your town.

      Jihadi’ comin’ round the border, now they come …
      Jihadi’s comin’ round the border, now they come …
      They’ll be blowin’ 3 white martyrs, They’ll be blowin’ 3 white martyrs, They’ll be blowin’ 3 white martyrs when they come.

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    • steve_fl
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:25am

      @soybomb315_II – seeing how iraq never attacked the US nor had the capability to, I’d say the poster was rather ignorant, not wise

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    • G-WHIZ
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:17pm

      Yeah….and he was a3rd-party…republican-vote splitter….so the PROG-O-CRATS WIN again!!
      R.P. would NEVER think of giving his votes to the [R]-side so KING-O-COMMIHOOD would loose!!Kin-O-commihood only won by 2%!! All 3rd-parties are funded by the DNC and D-SUPERPACS!!
      Lookup and scroll-down to “contributors”….You’ll find : DNC, SOROS and M.B.-HOOD!

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  • alinmatt
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:00pm

    Anyone ever heard of operation AJAX? Look it up and tell me how that’s worked out in the Middle East – keep following the trail all the way through until today. The CIA is responsible for one unintended consequence after another thanks to our insane foreign policy.

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    • Immental
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:14pm

      I implement Ajax in my php programming constantly. there is no problem here.

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      Immental  
    • alinmatt
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:27pm

      It even does the dishes. Pretty amazing stuff.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:54pm

      @alinmatt,

      Does it scrub the Internet?

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    • alinmatt
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:11pm

      @monk, I don’t know. I’ll try scrubbing my screen to see if it works. OH NOOOO! BLOWBACK

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:47pm

      @alinmatt,

      LOL : )

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:42pm

      alinmatt
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:00pm

      Anyone ever heard of operation AJAX?
      ====================================

      Here it is:

      https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol48no2/article10.html

      This may have been the very first ‘Arab Spring’ that has ever been created….

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    • alinmatt
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 3:27pm

      @kid, good link.
      To elaborate further for other people who won’t do their homework, operation ajax eventually led to the Iranian revolution. In an attempt to contain the situation, the US pushed Saddam Hussein into the Iraq-Iran war, where Saddam used nerve gas etc, but we didn’t seem to care while he was doing our bidding. By the end of the ten year long war, Iraq was broke and needed to pay its bills . Did we help ol‘ Saddam make the mortgage? Nope. So Saddam invaded Kuwait – for oil to pay the bill for the war that the west supported him on and pushed him towards. Unfortunately for Saddam, the oil was owned by the Brits, who then got us involved in another one of their wars. Ya’ll know the rest of the story, I hope.
      One little story from US foreign policy history. Is there any wonder as to why the Middle East hates the West? Would anyone like to tell me how it’s going to help to continue with the same insane foreign policy that we’ve been maintaining? Or would you rather continue silencing people and calling them nut jobs for suggesting something else?

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  • TRILO
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:55pm

    Once again he is correct, yet the establishment hacks call him a nut. Please explain to me why the CIA was in Benghazi. Please explain to me the secret CIA base in Libya. Please explain to me why the CIA is covertly assisting terrorist organizations in the overthrow of dictators across the middle east and glove. Please explain to me why the CIA is in north Africa. Every dictator we have helped overthrow a new and more evil and/or corrupt one emerges. Iran is a good place to start. Then add to recent history Iraq and Afghanistan that are now aligned with Iran. Libya, Egypt and Tunisia are now run by the Muslim Brotherhood. Great job CIA!

    All the hacks tell us that Ron Paul is a crazy old man and his ideas are nothing more than a conspiracy. If that is so, explain to me why John Boehner, the RE-elected Speaker of the House just cut out the tea party and fiscal conservatives from committees? If any of you think the republican party will change the direction of this country you are sadly mistaken.

    The republican party currently stands for the increased surveillance of American citizens, NDAA, CISPA, Patriot Act, drones, higher taxes, limited cuts to spending, unlimited military spending, status quo of the federal reserve, devaluation of our currency, support of terrorist organizations in the middle east (Egypt, Libya, Syria), covert military operations across the globe, bombing of civilians by drones in sovereign counties across the globe. Yet Ron Paul is the nut job.

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  • girlnurse
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:49pm

    What is with those people who spend so much time and energy on hating Ron Paul?!! I mean to seriously dedicate yourself to a name about it and everything?! Either you are paid trollers OR you have some real FEAR of FREEDOM and truth. Whoa…I mean I am not an all our die hard RP fan but dang…I just don’t get it. What are you afraid of?????? Obviously he didn’t win the nomination so why can’t people in a “supposed” free country listen to a stream of new ideas and opinions???? Why don’t you spend even half the time hating our current dear leader who IS in a position to inflict some serious damage! (I mean that is if you REALLY care about the country)

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:09pm

      Not enough people saw this expose on the anti-Ron Paul piss ant Time2, where he and I almost met in Tampa Bay.

      I wonder what an encounter would’ve looked like?

      Probably me stumbling into a beachfront bar looking for the restroom, to which I follow the sign to go downstairs, but end up falling down a few flights into darkness…waking up in a giant well with a hose being sprayed on me by a guy wearing only Captain Howdy face-paint and a Buffalo Bill skin robe…waving at me with his Popeye arm that he pumps up while at his desktop, “telling me that it puts the lotion of the skin or else a neocon will never win again.”

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:12pm

      Can you imagine a “Time2_end_Santorum_Campaign…..”

      LOL – that person would be laughed off the board

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:41pm

      @LONG. I saw you panhandling on Gulf to Bay in Clearwater. Can’t fool me kid. You were the only one throwing a temper tantrum for being told to wear his orange vest while asking for handouts… you rebel you.

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    • FlamingFartSyndrome
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:01pm

      Wanna hear a joke?

      Time_to_end_the_paul_campaign_in_12

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  • JR71
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:48pm

    Hey .. I don’t think I will as they say .. JR71 SPEAK YOUR MIND .. want to speak any more.
    I have had two many of my SPEAK YOUR MIND taken off in 5 min. or not put on at all,? whats
    going on ? Is Mr. beck afraid of something ? I don’t use any foul language and stay pritty close to
    subject matter. However I am very strong on my opinions always have been and always will.
    So Mr. Beck whats going on ? any body out there got any thougts on the matter.

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  • freeberty
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:44pm

    Just to clue you in, Ron Paul did pose a serious threat to most of the blaze haters. He would have tried to take away their government check.
    You don’t have to be an urban cell phone user living in section 8 to be a parasite, bred from parasites, breeding more parasites.

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  • The-Monk
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:39pm

    I thought the CIA was supposed to be secretive.

    Expect when Congress questions them (in secret first of course).

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:43pm

      Edit;

      except

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:46pm

      so congress isn’t irrelevant after all? i was under the impression that they haven’t declared war since the day after pearl harbor? but of course they would have the authority of the secretive CIA.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:08pm

      Hi longknifed,

      They stopped the UN today right?

      And that was even the Dem controlled Senate !!!!

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:10pm

      I know ye (me) have little faith. smokes and mirrors my friend, or should i say My fellow citizen of the world?

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:14pm

      The job of the CIA is to start war and make future enemies

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    • resme
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:26pm

      @monk, Hi, How are you?

      Didn’t JFK try to shut down the CIA? or was it the FBI

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:52pm

      Hi Resme,

      I forget….. either way, I always remember Nov 23rd. : (

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    • resme
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:58pm

      I wasn’t alive, sadly.

      Most kids my age love Lyndon B. Johnson.

      “History is written by the victors.” ~Winston Churchill As I recall that quote was never verified, None-the-less it’s a great quote.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:28pm

      Hi Resme,

      I was sitting in front of the TV watching “Flipper” by myself.

      I still remember calling out to my Mom, “That guy a lot of people like just got shot”.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:31pm

      Hi Resme,

      Sorry I’m taking a long time to get back to you.

      My roommate got ran over on while on a scooter tonight so I’m doing double time playing nurse in between posting.

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  • Politijack
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:38pm

    I like alot of what Dr Paul has to say..his stance on Isreal is a bit extreem for me though,im not Jewish btw.

    I probably would have been on board with voting for him but felt pretty much that if he did by some miracle get elected,it would have been a death sentence for him..
    We all know the drill,
    Go after the Fed,end up dead.

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  • qpwillie
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:25pm

    @TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

    I see all the Paulbots are not satisfied that they helped reelect Obama. Now they’re coming after you.

    I was late getting here but I’m glad you got them stirred up. Now that they’ve helped to destroy the country, at least we can take advantage of the comic relief they provide.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:28pm

      Aye QP…. Aye!!

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:29pm

      hahahaha…and YOU were gonna save it?!!? You are your mormon!!!!!

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    • Charles_Almon
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:44pm

      I liked Ron Paul.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:50pm

      @longknifed
      You wrote: “You are your mormon!!!!!”

      I’m sure you thought you were saying something. …..Well, I’m almost sure you thought you were.

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:54pm

      good call. AND
      forgot we were in middle school english class

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:04pm

      @longknifed
      Well, the best I can figure, you were telling me that I am my Mormon. First of all, I don’t own a Mormon and if I did, how could I be something that I own?

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:11pm

      it has always been just a game for you guys

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:12pm

      Mittens? you made an awfully strong case that “he was the guy.” he stood for nothing but he wasn’t ron paul, so he “won” the nomination. congrats. YOU OWN HIM. Your mormon candidate.

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    • WAKEUPUSA2012
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:26pm

      WE GOT OBAMA REELECTED? WE ARE DESTROYING THE COUNTRY? Maybe next election you idiot republicans nominate someone for POTUS thats not a flip floping globalist swine. I voted for ORommney because I hatred Obama. Look where that got me. Neoconservatives will be the DEATH of the GOP.(and this country) So you and the liberty basher take a hike.

      RAND PAUL 2016!

      End the Fed.

      End the NECONSERVATIVES foreign policy of aggression.

      End the TSA molesting our women and kids

      End the false flag operations against our own people

      NOT END THE PAUL CAMPAIGN. THERE ARE WAY BIGGER ISSUES THAN TROLLING A OLD MAN WHO RAN FOR PRESIDENT AND IS A LIBERTARTIAN. BIG FREAKING DEAL TIME.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:28pm

      qpwillie
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:25pm

      @TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      I see all the Paulbots are not satisfied that they helped reelect Obama. Now they’re coming after you.
      ===========================

      Romney lost….so it was actually YOU that helped reelect Obama….

      Blaming someone else for your own failure is right out of the progressive playbook, QP…

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    • P8riot
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:14pm

      I have to agree with QP and Time –

      Even if there weren’t enough libertarian votes to make a difference, the libertarians spent just as much time trying to divide the Republican Party as the Democrats did prior to the election. It is indisputable that such efforts certainly didn’t help Romney defeat Obama-clause. Thus, in a two person race (which this election clearly was) – if you are damaging one candidate… you are inevitably helping the other.

      @Longknifed – what does Romney’s religion have to do with anything?

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  • revelation2012
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:59pm

    everyone in the those positions that have been intimidated

    compromised should BAND together and put their stories

    to the American People – O isn’t the only one that has a MESSAGE!

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  • krjones
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:56pm

    Time 2 seems to have a crush on Ron…. All he thinks about

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    • Gourdy
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:05pm

      He_doesn’t_want_to_admit_that_Ron_Paul’s_campaign_already_ended_in_2012_and_that_he_needs_to_create_a_new_username.

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:06pm

      doesn’t his bizarre obsession remind you of a certain college football scandal from this time last year?

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:37pm

      Lmao… Ron Paul acolyes chomped (still do) at the bit and always “Biden”ed, sorry, er, “bided” their time until a Paul topic came along and have no problem showing their single-mindedness on behalf of their racist Rothbardian isolationist cause celeb.

      But nooooo, there can’t possibly be someone who single-mindedly and without hesitation makes “anti-Ron Paul” his cause celeb. Noooo, can’t be….

      Tough….

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:49pm

      time2, go back to peeling potatoes…oh wait they have contractors for that now…oh wait contractors are patriots too….REMEMBER BENGHAZI when those contractors died…..remember the American Revolution when those contractors died….trying to suppress American rebels.

      you are nothing but a contractor who stands for NOTHING but falls for ANYTHING that your precious government tells you to believe. Shill.

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  • revelation2012
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:54pm

    there are those that have NOT forgotten 9-11-01 let alone 9-11-12,,,

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  • revelation2012
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:52pm

    need to remember those that voted for that UN treaty ,,,,,,,,,

    we must secure the Senate – there is major work to be done.

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  • MattMott
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:51pm

    Ron Paul should be president. Hopefully he will run 2016. He is a man of character He is needed to truly push America where she needs to be.

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    • FISH_BONE
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:59pm

      Yes, the 10th time might be a charm.

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    • Winedude
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:03pm

      Ron Paul is too damned old. He’s 77 now, which means (for you under-achievers that attend school in the South) he’ll be 81 at the time of the 2016 election. Had he been on the ballot this year, I might have voted for him (I’m registered as “decline to state”) but no way I would do so in 4 years.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:05pm

      nah, Ron Paul doesnt want to be president anyways (nobody should). I would rather have Thomas Jefferson the statesman than Thomas Jefferson the president

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    • FISH_BONE
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:14pm

      SOY: Ron Paul and Thomas Jefferson are approximately the same age, so you make a relevant point.

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:28pm

      and what exactly do you trolls stand for? oh, that’s right…with beck and stu and israel. you’ve been pushed into irrelevancy. bon voyage.

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    • UnreconstructedLibertarian
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:55pm

      WineDude,

      did you really say this?
      ” (for you under-achievers that attend school in the South)

      Be thankful for the internet: you worthless, yankee bastard.

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    • resme
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:15pm

      “WineDude,

      did you really say this?
      ” (for you under-achievers that attend school in the South)

      Be thankful for the internet: you worthless, yankee bastard.”

      Don’t worry, When the dollar crashes. Yankees will be the first to die off, :).

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  • revelation2012
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:50pm

    again Congress NEEDS to get a grip on their appropriation bills!!!!

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  • macpappy
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:49pm

    And why would anyone care what Ron Paul has to say now?

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:15pm

      why would anybody care about what you say ever?

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    • Naps
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:35pm

      Because he is the PEOPLES CHAMP!!!!!! That’s why!! Ron Paul is and will always be my President. Keep listening to Rush and Beck. And watch your I.Q drop.

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  • girlnurse
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:47pm

    No other “politician” will say the truth Ron Paul will because they’re scared and they care too much about their political correctness reputation. I don’t think Rp is “the answer” and the be all end all. But people really need to invesigatewhat he says…..as Glenn says, don’t just believe what he says, investigate for yourself. I have done the same with Glenn and while I have found that he exagerates a bit sometimes–it always gets me down the road to truth about this government and the things that they are up to and how they operate. I do think Ron Paul does care about freedom and this country.

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    • encinom
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:56pm

      Ron Paul is a conspiracy nut, nothing more.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:04pm

      @Encinom
      What conspiracies? That our founders wanted a decentralized government with enumerated federal powers? OH NOOOOO

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:04pm

      Instead of just throwin names out there..pray tell…”what conspiracy is he a nut about?”
      Tell me ENCINOM what is the conspiracy??? I would ike to research and see for myself.

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:13pm

      enzyme nobody cares about what you repost from politico. Is Ron Paul a conspiracy theorist? UH DUH. were the founding fathers conspiracy theorists? UH DUH. is the constitution, bill of rights and declaration of independence based on one giant conspiracy theory? UH DUH.

      go back to your junior kstreet blogs.

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    • Stelex
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:32pm

      If you listen to fools, the mob rules. We’ve been listening to fools for far to long. Both sides of the isle are globalists, the tea party threatens this and so do the libertarians. Time maybe to form a new coalition.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqMyEalm-JI Ronnie new.

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  • RightThinking1
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:38pm

    ”The CIA Is Every Bit as Secretive as the Federal Reserve.”
    Well…, yeah…

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    • Polarized America
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:48pm

      .
      aww gee Dr. Paul..the CIA is a spy organization after all ….duh

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:10pm

      so how do we know the CIA is acting in the best interests of the USA??? We know more about Agenda 21 than the CIA. Every level of our government has been corrupted by progressives – what makes you think CIA hasnt? Ron Paul is just pointing out these facts – there are many who dont understand

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    • TRILO
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:59pm

      Did you not get the point? They are not a force for good, but evil. Covert wars and coups in foreign lands does not create a more stable world. If Iraq, Afghanistan, Tunisia, Libya and Syria do not prove the point I would assume you need to change your rose colored glasses.

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  • Stelex
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:37pm

    Ron Paul is a good man. I think he was just a few years to early. Soy, what you don’t get is America has to feel some pain before we will change. Most still believe in the two party system, most still believe in the media. As things spiral downward as I expect, people will be looking for an alternative. Maybe Rand…..maybe something else. But like drunks and addicts…..change will not come about without a lot of pain first. That does not bode well for those who already know whats going on. We have to hit bottem before sobering up. And unfortunately, that means all of us. Just prepare

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:49pm

      You’re right! Its really painful for us who woke up a few years ago and have to sit here waiting for everyone else to come around. Its one of those things that has to happen naturally and some people seriously need hit in the head with a two by four!

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:51pm

      @Stelex
      I agree with almost everything you said. We will probably go through something terrible if we are ever to return to a Constitutional government. However, there is always a remnant – even in these times. There is always a portion of the population who holds the truth and when the purifying fire comes – our message is the only one left. What I am saying is that we must continue to proclaim our message, so that when the trouble comes, people might understand the truth

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:51pm

      Agreed,I like most of Paul’s positions but the CIA being secretive? That’s how they’re supposed to operate with proper oversight from congress.I liked his idea of ending the fed and eliminating whole departments and returning to sound money.You’re correct we do have to hit bottom before we can get out of this but this generation won’t respond the way they did in the first depression. This generation feels entitled and when the cash flow stops………………………..

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    • riseandshine
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:59pm

      @ProgressiveSlayer…..But ARE they getting proper oversight by us (congress) ?

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    • FISH_BONE
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:01pm

      …… the blood flow begins.

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    • Fubared
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:04pm

      Slayer-
      Spot on, without any of my bot rhetoric. End the fed, the christians in action need to remain under any radar. Duh.

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:17pm

      progressiveslayer,

      sorry but you are not a libertarian. your predictable, repeated rants against the “POS obama” are nothing but RNC talking points. “i like ron paul, BUT….” yeah, we heard it a million times. You like everything about him, but one thing. you like NOTHING about Romney yet you shill for him. Have fun going down with the ship.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:21pm

      Riseandshine Sadly probably not because we know they do a lot of black bag off the book stuff.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:26pm

      Longknifed Believe what you want but Paul wasn’t at the finish line so I went with the lesser of two evils.
      If Paul would’ve got the nomination I would’ve obviously voted for him.

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:32pm

      again with these tiresome metaphors. i haven’t seen you give RP or the liberty movement any praise, except your half-heartedness just now. pretty sure you were one of those “oh he can’t win” type. You can keep blaming the black puppet all you want, but it means absolutely nothing other than a distraction from the real issues that Dr Paul has been trying to point out.

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    • Stelex
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:38pm

      Long…….I suspect your critique is off a bit. Ron Paul would never today have been elected. Thats a fact. Maybe in 4, 8 years but no way today. Not enough people understand the media, the UN, and so much thats involved, they will only look when it hurts. Then maybe……we’ll see

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    • Fubared
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:39pm

      Riseandhiney
      Have you guys gotten together as a group to apologize to the good doc for ruining a potentially good thing? It wasn’t him or the elitist collegiate fraternity pukes that turned people off. It was you guys that made the average Joe say nah, those stoners are nuts and rabid. Cograts again, angry knows, resme, jihad jerk, sillysally, windydualism of course-quite a few of you toads here turned people off. Well done, can I get fries with that and no I don’t have any coopons.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:41pm

      LONGKNIFED
      For months prior to the election I touted Paul’s policies because I like the idea of limited government,you probably didn’t see them for whatever reason. Like I said you can believe what you want but Paul was my choice he just didn’t get the nomination.

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:45pm

      maybe you did or didn’t, but your nominee lost the election. we knew from the beginning that would happen. how you can still have that one little hangup on liberty makes no sense because it is literally all or nothing. you can’t pick and choose with having most freedom and just that one little 7 billion dollar tyranny called the military industrial complex. i see promise in your statement, but at this point you are still on the other side.

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:52pm

      stelex,

      check the post. nowhere did i say he would win. his loss would have been the beginning like Goldwater’s was in 1964 or Reagan in 1976. It’s that national platform that was needed to form a new coalition so that people down in the swamps of louisiana or wherever could see him.

      We said a million times it is not about Ron Paul BUT HIS IDEAS.

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:04pm

      Fubu,

      The “frat guys” were for obama remember? Pretty collectivist how you base your ballot on how other people think and act rather than the candidate’s SUBSTANCE. keep to your echo chamber, it calls your name.

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    • Stelex
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:10pm

      Long, I was demonized for not being for “RON PAUL”. Not his idea’s. I’m a realist. I get how people think and how the mob thinks. We are out of time. I’m all for a lot of Ron Pauls idea’s. But what good are they if he doesn’t get elected and nobody else running is pushing them.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:23pm

      @Stelex
      I believe we have had a few battles over the last few months. I dont think you can say you were unfairly treated. My memory tells me you were very critical of our decision not to support Mitt Romney on the grounds that he was a progressive. You were passionate and we were passionate. Now the election is over and we pick up the pieces so that next time it wont suck as bad

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    • justangry
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:08pm

      @Longknifed, ProgSlayer was a very vocal advocate for Ron Paul on this site prior to and throughout the primaries.

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  • Gourdy
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:36pm

    The man speaks the truth. And I’m not one to go around complimenting Ron Paul.

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    • Stelex
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:40pm

      Agreed……………

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:52pm

      His time in Congress is over, but he plans on doing a lot of speaking engagements – mostly at college campuses. The movement will only grow stronger because of this. We just need more congressman who try their best to follow the Constitutional ideas

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:35pm

      I have to apologize GOURDY… so I’ll drag my apologizing @ss over to your comment.

      You asked a straightforward question to me and got an answer with a whole lot of other stuff attached as well.

      Again here is the straightforward answer to your straightforward and n nonsense question…

      I like drone warfare in the “right” hands. It’s pretty accurate… has a certain amount of oversight at point of control and it kills Muslames pretty good. PLUS as an added bonus… saves a lot of our lives being lost.

      I even applaud Obama the Muslame killer for using this technology. Yep I said it…. I even applaud Obama AND that isn’t easy for me to do. I loathe that man way more than I could ever loathe Ron Paul.

      Now of course like drug legalization, same sex marriage etc…

      Again, I apologize….

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  • MDECKER
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:32pm

    Our spies are doing such a bang-up job, hey? I think they should be unionized.

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  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:25pm

    The C.I.A. is secretive? NOOoooooooo…

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:21pm

    lets see how many people come out and attack Ron Paul ideas after just reading the Boehner hates Tea Party article…….

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:30pm

      Well SOY… what’s YOUR take on what the old traitor stated instead of waiting on everyone else??

      You already know that the phones are ringing off the hook… all the old Paul guard has been chomping at the bit for a new Paul topic…. and the call tree is in full swing…

      It’s just a matter of TIME before this is the hottest topic of today and all your old pals will here to help you out….

      Why don’t you get it started??

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    • Stelex
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:39pm

      Time 2, your blind hatred has rendered you neutered. Just curl up and lick the empty sack like a good dog.

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    • Gourdy
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:42pm

      Time_2, let’s focus on the message and not the messenger. Do you feel OK with a drone program that is essentially an act of unsanctioned war? I really don’t. And I agree that it should be put under the Defense Department instead of the covert agencies.

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    • justangry
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:46pm

      Time2, Come on over to the Boehner thread so we can tell you so properly. I was hoping to know how you like that big GOP c**k now? Yes sir give me another right in the ole wazoo. Sir no sir, I don’t need any KY jelly. BTW, Ron Paul thinks in 2014 your living off the government’s tit will be over. You’re a UN bitch now.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:54pm

      I am for us spying on other nations. I am not ok with us starting wars, implanting puppets, and causing chaos. The CIA has a job to do, they just have over stepped their job.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:57pm

      I’m just sitting back and waiting for all the old St Paulie Gurls to arrive. No harm, no foul boys. I enjoy reading the old choom gang…

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:59pm

      Time2 admit that Paul would’ve been a much better president than BO and Romney, I went with the lesser of two evils,for the last time.

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    • longknifed
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:02pm

      i can’t believe I’m wasting my night off for this. time has been figured out. he is nothing more than a jaded little jarhead who cannot function on his own. he has been regimented and soldiered out of individuality so much so that he would walk off a cliff if a “superior” ordered him to, even jokingly. pathetic little bootlicker.

      His singular purpose is anti-RON PAUL, pro-NEW WORLD ORDER. The guy is a Bill Kristol wannabe. This never-ending argument of ZERO substance that he constantly circles back to has already been poignantly shot down by this dude on Cspan against zio-shill kristol.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYdAgLSRarE

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    • Fubared
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:08pm

      Uh, angry, are you going to be across the pond when we all start to suckle the teat? Will there be special thc juice in the bot teats? Will uncle also provide you cheetos for post thc tteat action? Will the crayons be any different? Did windy finally od or just stuck for now at infowars? So many questions. What do actual secret services do when not on dancing with the bots?

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:15pm

      Time2
      People are coming to the realization they were fed a bunch of garbage in the primary and that Ron Paul had a ton of good ideas….Understanding that you offer only tyranny and death.
      Better Ron than Wrong.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:20pm

      GOURDY. Sorry man, had to take the dog out for a spin. C’mon, get your minds out of the gutter. I know you have know problem with Uncle Fred boinking your sister (in Libertarian fashion of course… she has to be at least 18 for your satistafction), but had to “walk” the doggie.

      Per your question GOURDY. I like drone warfare in the “right” hands. It’s pretty accurate… has a certain amount of oversight at point of control and it kills Muslames pretty good. PLUS as an added bonus… save a lot of our lives being lost. I even applaud Obama the Muslame killer for using this technology. Yep I said it…. I even applaud Obama. But YOU enabled him. Maybe not YOU GOURDY (not sure ’bout that one… but you know who I mean eh?)

      Now of course like drug legalization, same sex marriage and old Uncle Fred and your sister (well, not YOUR sister GOURDY… unless of course… nah…)… there is a very slippery slope attached to it.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:23pm

      SLAYER. And for that bit of team play and your honesty regarding same… I applaud you as I’ve stated before. I might even vote for Rand as long as he leaves “Wolfie” off his ticket if he runs…

      But I’d rather see Palin / Rand Paul or Rand Paul / Palin… either way. I also applaud Rand Paul for his common sense and team play. He convinced me to overlook his BAD upbringing, lol.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:26pm

      Correction GOURDY….

      I know you have “NO” problem with Uncle Fred boinking your sister (in Libertarian fashion of course…”).

      Again… that is not necessarily directed at YOU. I don’t know what your sister’s name is, nor do I know if you have an Uncle Fred… nor do I know if you’re even a Libertarian who thinks that inbreeding is okay??

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    • WAKEUPUSA2012
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:38pm

      Lol he keeps talking about some uncle boinking someones sister, more than likely his own damn story. Tisk tisk.

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    • Naps
      Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:45pm

      TIME 2 wants Palin to run????? HAHAHAHAHAHA…….(gasp for air)………HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA…….WOW!!!!! This Nutjob must never want a Republican President again? TIME 2 take your F$%Kin Meds

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    • AUsername
      Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:04am

      well allot of those folks just want their welfare food stamps and entitlements and leach off the youth, baby boomers.

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