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The Reagan Coalition Is Dead — GOP Now Needs More Than Old, White Men to Grow

Dec. 4, 2012 8:12am Mytheos Holt

Editor’s Note: This is the second in a series of articles examining what went wrong for the Republican Party in the 2012 presidential election and where the GOP goes from here. Please visit our special section GOP: What Next? to follow the series of stories and find related content.

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Prior to the 2012 election, if you told Republicans their nominee would win white voters, elderly voters and independents, in some cases by margins that rival Ronald Reagan’s, they would have assumed a blowout was coming. Nov. 6, 2012 showed how wrong that diagnosis would have been.

In 1980, Ronald Reagan won voters over 60 55-41. Romney won them 56-44. Reagan won men 55-38. Romney won men 52-46. Reagan won independents 56-31. Romney won them 50-45. Reagan won white voters by 56-36. Romney matched his margin, but outpaced his rate of support at 59-39.

This last margin alone would have had Republicans justifiably picking out the drapes for the Oval Office in 1980. Now all the encouraging margins above cannot even muster a close race in the electoral college. This fact has Republicans alarmed and asking themselves, justifiably, just what happened.

The answer is that America just doesn’t look the same. In 1980, white voters were 88 percent of the electorate. Now they’re 72 percent of the electorate. Men were 51 percent of the electorate in 1980. Now they’re 47 percent of the electorate. Elderly voters made up 18 percent of the electorate in 1980. Now they’re 16 percent. These uniformly shrinking numbers suggest something very ominous for Republicans who want to win in the future – namely, that their electoral math is obsolete and the coalition that handed them their most lopsided victories in recent history is no longer enough to even win a majority. As USC Professor Patrick James put it, “If you look at the demographics and voting proportions, the Reagan coalition would not win a majority today.”

Asian Voters, Indian Americans and the Tech Sector Could Help GOP Rebuild Its Base

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And who has replaced them? To put it in the memorable phrasing of New York Magazine columnist John Heilemann, voters the Romney campaign “didn’t know existed,” namely Hispanics (2 percent of the electorate in 1980, now 10 percent), Asians (statistically insignificant in 1980, now 3 percent) and women (49 percent in 1980, now 53 percent). And while the Romney campaign didn’t know those voters exist, now everyone does know, and there is no reason to suspect they are going away, which raises the question – can the GOP remain competitive, given the new demographic realities, and if they can, which of these groups might they focus on as solid election prospects?

As with any big question, there are multiple answers to this, though the most popular approach among many conservatives seems to be an almost monomaniacal focus on Hispanic outreach. And indeed, given demographic trends, Republicans will need to make sufficient inroads with Hispanics if they want to succeed. However, there are other groups that are (in some ways) easier pickings, who mysteriously have gone either unmentioned or less mentioned as potential prospects for a broader, multi-ethnic Republican party.

Moreover, the focus on racial questions arguably obscures another issue – namely, the volatility of the Democratic economic coalition, which in some cases relies on groups with mutually exclusive interests to vote for the same party. A coalition like this is inherently unstable, and there is potential for the Republican party to pick up votes, financial support and perhaps most importantly, governing issues by capitalizing on those divisions. As such, in looking at the groups that are ripe for inclusion in the GOP, two of the three most ripe are racial groups and one is an industry with ideological commitments that are quite arguably more at home with Republican impulses than with Democratic ones.

Who are those three groups? Read on.

1. Indian Americans

If one tried to derive the racial mix of the current Republican party looking at the Republican leaders currently raising their voices most audibly in the argument over the direction of the party, one could easily conclude that the GOP is held together by a racial mix of whites, hispanics (mostly Cubans) and Indian-Americans. Certainly, with promising future governors like Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley, that would seem to be a foregone conclusion. Combine that with Indian Americans’ relative affluence and instinct to assimilate (and excel), and you have a picture of a minority group that arguably has no reason at all to vote Democrat. Yet in spite of these many factors, Indian Americans actually ended up being some of President Obama’s strongest supporters this election cycle. In fact, of the candidates endorsed by USINPAC, a PAC devoted to advancing the interests of Indian-Americans, only one is a Republican.

How did this happen? The answer is complicated, but a Reason article from October 31 by columnist Shikha Dalmia might shed some light on it. Dalmia points specifically at two factors that explain the Indian-American tendency to support Democrats, those being Indian Americans’ cultural memory of repression under the British Empire (making them sensitive to discrimination), and their predisposition toward religious pluralism due to their predominately Hindu faith. To quote Dalmia:

Having grown up in a country where the memory of British colonialism and its apartheid ways is still very much alive, they are exceedingly — even overly — sensitive to discrimination. They see America as a fair and just country — much more so than England and far more than their own country with its myriad, soul-sapping hierarchies. (This is why, when America liberalized its immigration policies in 1965 and opened the door to Indians, they overwhelmingly started choosing it over England or Australia or any other destination, although that is changing now). But they also feel that just as it takes constant effort to keep tyranny at bay, it also takes constant effort to keep in check the natural urge of the dominant group to put in place a system of privileges that benefit its own. Without an explicit — even exaggerated — commitment to fairness and equality, it is difficult to vanquish this tendency and, as far as they are concerned, the only party that has shown any desire to make this commitment is the Democratic Party — if only in name. (I suspect this is also the reason why other minorities lean Democratic.)[...v]

Hinduism with its exotic practices, belief in reincarnation and quasi-polytheism has very little in common with Christianity. Even Islam accepts monotheism, the Bible and Christ. Hinduism, by contrast, has a completely different holy book, its own pantheon of Gods and its own (equally bizarre) theory of creation. Hindus don’t regard Christianity as wrong or an enemy. They just see it as one among many legitimate options and Jesus as one among many incarnations of God. There isn’t a clash of civilizations between Hinduism and Christianity — there is a clash of spiritual postures.

Hence, when the Republican Party loudly touts its allegiance to “Christian values” and insists that Christianity is inextricably interwoven into the DNA of this country, it doesn’t anger Indians, it nonplusses them. It effectively signals to them that they don’t fully belong in America or their party. And the sight of Haley and Jindal on the Republican convention stage, both of whom rejected their faith and embraced Christianity, doesn’t reassure Indians — it creeps them out! (Incidentally, there is no such thing as apostasy in Hinduism.)

The fact that these two instincts lean a demographic group that under any other circumstances would be solidly Republican toward the Democrats should be worrisome to conservatives. And while these reasons for uneasiness with the GOP would seem to be founded more on stereotypes of conservatism than on reality, the cases of Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley do show why it has some resonance. From a profile of the two in Salon from 2010:

Though candidates try to downplay the still strong presence of identity politics, it’s clear that that there are still some racial tensions to overcome. After all, Haley this spring was derided as a “raghead” by a fellow South Carolina Republican, while Goyle was branded an “evil” “turban topper” by his Republican foe, Mike Pompeo.

Indeed, the very fact that Jindal is known as “Bobby” and not “Piyush,” his original Indian first name, and that Haley is known as “Nikki” and not “Nimrata” says a lot about the difficulties of the two politicians, who Salon describes as having to pass a “How ‘American’ do you need to be” test.

Now, to be sure, Indian American voters are a statistically smaller group than some of the others under consideration by a wide margin. However, as the Salon article notes, despite their small numbers, Indian Americans offer a sizable financial advantage to the candidate who wins their support, and given the quality of the current crop of Indian American Republicans, there is ample reason to believe they would add some much needed evidence of diversity to the party.

And speaking of diversity, another group that Indian Americans are generally lumped in with should probably be considered up for grabs as well:

Asian Americans

As with Indian Americans, Asian voters are a case study in voting in what would seem to be an irrational way, especially considering that they not only gain little from Democratic policies, but actually seem to suffer from the effects of at least one – namely, affirmative action. Moreover, conservative publications and activists have noted – and crusaded against – this particular instance of injustice:

Asian Americans routinely outperform all other groups, including Caucasians, in academic achievement, a pattern that has been observed since at least the mid-1980s. By eighth grade, “the percentage of Asian American students scoring in the upper echelons on math exams was 17 points higher than the percentage of white students,” reports the Washington Post. When it’s time to apply for college, the gap continues: In 2010, the last year for which data were available, the average SAT score for Asian Americans was 1636, versus 1580 for Caucasian students, 1369 for Mexicans and Mexican Americans, and 1277 for African Americans.

But as Asian Americans have risen through the academic ranks, some claim that they’ve become the “new Jews”—a group considered to be “overrepresented” in elite academia.

Moreover, Asian Americans are the most affluent minority in America, and strenuously support traditional family structures. To quote a Pew Research Center report:

Asian Americans are the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the United States. They are more satisfied than the general public with their lives, finances and the direction of the country, and they place more value than other Americans do on marriage, parenthood, hard work and career success.

And if that block quote doesn’t ring of a potential pickup, the charts from the report in question offer should. Consider the following:

Photo Credit: Pew Research Center

Clearly, based on these statistical facts about Asian American attitudes, this group should be a strategic match made in heaven for the GOP.

Yet in the 2012 election, they still went overwhelmingly for Barack Obama. Why? An article in the Los Angeles Times by experts Taeku Lee and Karthick Ramakrishnan offers some clues:

First, it is no accident that the move toward the Democratic Party started during Bill Clinton’s presidency. Although detailed polling data on Asian Americans in the 1990s are lacking, this is a period when the Democratic Party developed a new pro-business image, economic growth was strong, Asian Americans naturalized in unprecedented numbers and Clinton made public efforts to woo them, including nominating the first Asian American to the Cabinet. Still, even by 2000, Asian Americans were roughly evenly split in their choice between Al Gore and George W. Bush.[...]

This mix of “push” and “pull” factors continued during the first Obama administration. On the “push” side of the ledger, the Republican Party has not been helped by its close liaison with the tea party movement, which received low favorability ratings in our 2012 survey, nor by presidential candidates and party activists emphasizing Christian values. Thus a Pew report on Asian American religion showed the highest Democratic Party support among Hindus and the religiously unaffiliated who, together, account for more than 35% of the Asian American population.

On the “pull” side is the significant rise in the number of Asian Americans Obama has appointed, from Cabinet positions to the World Bank, and policy achievements that matter to Asian Americans like healthcare (the Affordable Care Act), education (college loans and the Race to the Top initiative) and foreign policy (ending the Iraq war). On all these matters, and even on job creation, our 2012 survey showed Asian Americans giving a sizable edge to Obama over Romney. It is no surprise, then, that Obama did even better among Asian Americans in 2012 than in 2008.

In other words, Asian Americans vote for Democrats because Democrats have made a concerted effort to woo them, and because they may still look at Democrats as the party of Clintonian moderation, rather than the party of hard line Leftism. Also, like their religiously tolerant Indian American brethren, they appear to be nonplussed at best by the GOP’s focus on explicitly religious values. Fairly or not, the inability or refusal of politicians like Marco Rubio to answer questions about noncontroversial, basic science almost certainly fails to help Republicans with groups that are so highly educated and aggressively secular, and this may signal trouble for some segments of the GOP. So, too, does the Asian American community’s close relation to the illegal immigration problem, given that so much of their demographic growth is due to immigration, both legal and otherwise.

Fortunately, with the GOP taking steps towards immigration reform (while stopping well short of the Democratic approach), this latter problem at least may be mitigated. And given that immigration reform is the most substantive policy roadblock to the GOP making inroads with Asian Americans, such mitigation would allow for easier tweaks to messaging strategy and to the types of candidates recruited to net Asian American votes. The Romney campaign, to its credit, tried to do this already, and if Republicans follow – and exceed – their example, Asian Americans could do a lot to staunch the GOP’s bleeding among minorities.

So those are two racial groups that could provide the GOP the beginnings of a path toward a workable coalition. Which Democratic-leaning industry might join them? Read on.

The Tech Industry

If there’s anything more frequently cited than demographics as the reason for the GOP’s failure this election cycle, it’s their clear disadvantage relative to the Obama campaign in the realm of building new technology. After all, the collapse of the Romney campaign’s GOTV software ORCA has become a running joke with political commentators, while the Obama campaign’s fleet of tech geniuses were deservedly memorialized with a glowing Atlantic Monthly article titled “When the Nerds Go Marching In.” Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook is a major Democratic donor, and the CEO of Google, Eric Schmidt, is reportedly being considered for Treasury Secretary. The takeaway is clear: The tech industry leans Democratic.

Like with Asian and Indian American voters, however, this is a disparity that quite arguably should go the other way. Why? Because one of the Democrats’ main political commitment is to Hollywood and the entertainment industry generally, and no group has been historically more terrified of innovation that could blunt their business model than the entertainment industry. Moreover, the connection between Hollywood and Democrats is so well-established as to be almost incestuous, with Hollywood starlets headlining the Democratic convention while former Democratic Senator Chris Dodd is now the head of the Motion Picture Association of America.

And not only does Hollywood support the Democrats, but with its obsessive focus on combating online piracy, and loathing of any and all exceptions to copyright, it is the biggest enemy of the interests of those within the tech industry, which ruthlessly favors innovation will oppose to its last breath any attempt to regulate the place where that innovation is often born – namely, the internet.

So why isn’t the tech industry behind the Republicans? Well, some of their leaders are, but a raft of cultural issues and, in some cases, unthinking allegiance to big business on the part of Republicans drove Silicon Valley into the hands of Democrats in the 2006 election cycle. Those in the tech industry that remain Republican tend to skew libertarian, meanwhile, and completely reject the party’s dogma on social issues. As the New York Times’ Nate Silver put it:

Perhaps a different type of Republican candidate, one whose views on social policy were more in line with the tolerant and multicultural values of the Bay Area, and the youthful cultures of the leading companies here, could gather more support among information technology professionals.

Ron Paul, the libertarian-leaning Republican, raised about $42,000 from Google employees, considerably more than Mr. Romney did.

Worse for future prospects than vague cultural issues, however, is the fact that Republicans sponsored quite arguably the iconic symbol of everything the tech industry despises at the legislative level – namely, the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA). In some cases, the GOP arguably is in the right in its opposition to tech industry-pushed issues (for instance, on the complicated subject of net neutrality, which implicates economic freedom of businesses just as much as the personal freedom of internet users), but the party has yet to engage the tech community on these issues in any serious way, and the tech industry has responded in kind.

However, there are encouraging signs for a tech industry-friendly GOP. On the tech side, Facebook employees gave slightly more money to Republicans than Democrats this election cycle, while on the GOP side, officeholders and staff appear to be looking for support in internet deregulation efforts. This can especially be seen in the case of Rep. Darrell Issa’s willingness to debate the merits of a potential bill on Reddit, and in the paper authored by former Scott Brown staffer Derek Khanna arguing for substantial copyright reform. This latter paper was initially published with the imprint of the Republican Study Committee – the most conservative group in Congress – though they later pulled it, citing insufficient vetting. However, that the subject was broached at all signals a positive long-term trend. Finally, given the fact that tech savvy voters tend to skew young, this is a trend that the GOP quite arguably will want to accelerate as an inroad with young voters generally.

Bottom line: There is plenty of low-hanging fruit for the GOP to grab in successive election cycles, both at the racial and the economic level. As to whether they can do it, that is a question that will be decided in 2014 and beyond.

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Comments (252)

paulwbrown
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:13am
And if someone said the democratic party should not be a party of a young black man?

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- Silvertruth
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:57am
  Anyone that thinks about politics and race being tied together needs to adjust their thinking. The author of this article is being realistic, but also racist by making these ties. Yes, race and politics are tied together today but they shouldn’t be at all. What needs to happen is to out-do the Progressive race centered thinking , not join it.
  
  First, core principals cross all racial boundary’s and all economic lines. The party that can ‘own’ and articulate those core principals will conquer a party that is spinning them to specifics way down the tracks. People CAN see further than their noses when they look beyond them. Right now, everyone is so focused on themselves that the big picture becomes meaningless. Romney did a great job of painting the big picture but Americans clearly were worried about themselves more than the big picture, so he lost.
  
  We need people, not just political candidates, that can see beyond the color of skin, the culture of home, and to the presence of principal. If you can clearly show WHY we are free and how important freedom is to people. If you can clearly state HOW the economy relates to freedom and happiness. If you can show WHO has the right ideas about personal integrity, honor and love, then you have someone capable of doing WHAT is necessary to correct the course of a political party.
  
  This was the core of the Tea Party, what’s is happening now is it’s getting lost in social issues. BAD!
  
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- Secret Squirrel
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:18am
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  No.
  The GOP is dead.
  They have decided to be DNC lite.
  Why would you vote for wanna-be democrats when you can have the real thing?
  Time for a new party of conservatives. Then I’d get excited about voting again.
  
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- RANGER1965
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:38am
  @Secret Squirrel
  
  That’s how I’m seeing it too. The GOP is swinging left in an attempt to be relevant….and losing their entire base in the process.
  
  All of the GOP talking heads, and the GOP elite are trying to convince everyone that this is the only hope for Conservatives…to not be conservative. Instead just be a “lighter” version of a socialist progressive.
  
  Since we’re not doing such a good job at taking over the GOP and turning it conservative, maybe its time to think seriously about a 3rd party.
  
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- Stuck_in_CA
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:23pm
  @Secret Squirrel & @RANGER1965 Ditto here! A new Conservative Party AND a Conservative States of America.
  Conservative Christians — all God-fearing people of this Republic, will forever be struggling with the evil of the commie Left. Being ruled by these people is un-Godly, and much of the time perverse. We need our own COUNTRY too!
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:34pm
  With all due respect, you’re all wrong. This nation has been usurped by elitist government class.
  They’re better than the rest of us. They make the rules but arent required to follow them. They use
  OUR money to buy off votes and bail out their friends. They enrich themselves and line their own pockets.
  
  They’re the ruling class and “We The People” are the subservient class.
  Its exactly backward from what it should be.
  Until this changes you’ll remain a slave to a government that runs every aspect of your life and picks your pockets clean to prop themselves up.
  
  “When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is Liberty”
  
  Thomas Jefferson made that statement and it has never been more true than it is today.
  We The People need to Instill the FEAR OF GOD in in our elected officials.
  Until that happens, enjoy your chains & shackles and the bread crumbs they allow you to have
  after their feasts.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-9p7FohoH4
  
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- amerbur
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:53pm
  I agree with you Silvertruth. Romney clearly did not love the principles or he would have been able to articulate them with passion. We could all see this. We wanted someone that could articulate his or her strongly held core principles. We could read Romney and we all knew he was not authentic. I still voted for him as I thought he was less threatening than Obama to the survival of our country.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:58pm
  What exists right now is NO DIFFERENT than when our Founders were being abused by the British Monarchy. The King and his field marshals & generals learned to fear the Patriots who founded this country.
  
  We are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights as a FREE PEOPLE.
  Our current government has designs to, and essentially has succeeded in stealing this away from you.
  It is very clear they intend to tax & spend this once proud nation into obliteration. Their purposeful intention is to crash this economy and the country. They’re taking everything you’ve ever had and everything you ever hoped to have in the future.
  
  They have REFUSED to even pass a BUDGET for over 4 years which is in itself ILLEGAL.
  Now they’re proposing unlimited debt increases by executive fiat.
  
  What more proof do you need?
  
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- Kregneva
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:44pm
  Rupert Murdock thinks we can get enough UK expats – mostly British and Australian – we can keep the Old white Guy meme going for another decade. That’s why he pays folks to fill the Blaze with hate. Too bad this approach only loses – and loses big after a while. “You can fool all of the people some of the time, …”
  
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- sta
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:53pm
  We also need someone who will actually lay facts on the line and tell the opponent that they are wrong. This generation was raised on Jerry Springer and American Idol. When something is wrong, those people don’t say it nicely. They are aggressive and that is what a candidate needs to be. Otherwise young people think they are wimps. They only listen to the one yelling the loudest.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:56pm
  If anyone here seriously thinks that the Republican party lost elections because because their candidates didn’t run far enough to the right then you are in a serious state of denial.
  
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- Cesium
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:57pm
  “Hence, when the Republican Party loudly touts its allegiance to “Christian values” and insists that Christianity is inextricably interwoven into the DNA of this country, it doesn’t anger Indians, it nonplusses them.” Can easily replace “Indians” with “Jews” in that statement. If the modern Republican party wants more Jewish votes they must figure out how to deemphasize christianity at the forefront of the party. The more fanatically christian a republican candidate appears for their campaign the longer a undecided jew will stand on the fence and a liberal jew considering a GOP vote will veer back towards the democratic vote. Jews are very weary of christian prothyltizing and talk of “faith this, faith that.” The stronger it is the more we back away.
  
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- wzanesdad
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:03pm
  silvertruth,
  I agree with yoiur views. I think that the core values are fine….we need to get the 80% of conservatives that didn’t vote off thier lazy a$$e$ and get involved. We have plenty of support, they just think that someone else will do it.
  
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- YouCantExplainThat
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:10pm
  Ahh! The problems of a pluralistic society. Screw that, I’m moving to Japan, they are 99.9% Japanese there and I won’t ever had to deal with someone who is different. You can keep all the Hispanics, and Canadians. Sorry.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:59pm
  Bodybag has it nailed, just a matter of time for people to see and feel it for themselves. When was the last time any of you had 1 minute of your local reps time? Format emails are sure nice, but most people don’t even know who their local pols are. Apathy sucks.
  
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- Truthbeliever2
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:37pm
  The Republicans and Democrats are playing you people like the fools you are. Neither of them want freedoms under the constitution. Both of them want one world order. They are going to get what they want.
  
  Please! People! STOP deluding yourselves into believing that your votes matter. They are the ones who are in control. The people are too busy living in lala land to ever get a grip on the true reality of this two party slave system we all live under.
  
  Our “leaders” can form coalitions with other countries and the U.N. without ever consulting congress. The can go to war without consulting congress.
  
  YOU DON’T MATTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
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- iampraying4u
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:42pm
  they just need more people that will stand for the truth
  
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- realindependent
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:43pm
  You all can have Texas. Good Luck God Bless ya. Don’t let the door hit ya, where the good Lord split ya.
  
  You can’t have Florida. That’s Mine…..
  
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- earlangus120
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 5:51pm
  the REAGAN Coalition is NOT dead ,the republican Party has lost its way with the rino`s but the leaders such as Karl Rove, Boehner, McConnel and Cantor along with Self admitted Romney are all progressives. We need Paul Ryan, Sara Palin And people like them to lead this party wether it be the Republican party or Tea party or American Conservative party, this party needs to be more conservative .The problem is they are to middle of the road, they can`t tell them apart. If they can`t stand firm and say what they believe they they are rinos.
  
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- chicago76
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:47pm
  The GOP as democrat lite is and should be dead, but really the Republicans are envious of the democrats because the democrats got all their popularity by hoisting the flag created by republicans. The Democrats took the republican flag and ran with it.
  
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- chicago76
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:55pm
  When European Christians first got here, America was populated by heathens. We survived that and we will survive the heathens now attempting to take over America. With God on our side no challenge is too great. Besides, really this supposed coalition of minorities is a joke. In the end they will be at each others throats like mad dogs. The democrats know it. Their own greed and selfishness will destroy any coalitions they could ever create. All we have to do is wait till the bullets quit flying and pick up the pieces afterwards.
  
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- sandy9964
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:10pm
  If you think Todd`s story is good,, four weaks-ago my brother’s girlfriend basically actually earnt $9325 putting in fifteen hours a week an their house and there roomate’s sister`s neighbour was doing this for 9-months and got a cheque for over $9325 parttime from a labtop. follow the instructions here… http://ace60.com
- NukeHaze
  Posted on December 5, 2012 at 4:24am
  Mytheos…just like before in your last article and like Meredith, we keep being told why we should not believe that Soros actually succeeded in stealing the election after we were warned for years about how it was going to happen. It is safer to speculate all the ways they succeeded in stealing this election than to speculate why peoiple think the Overton window has moved so far to the left that the highly successful tea party wave of 2010 has disappeared….which it did not, by the way, it was bigger in 2012 than 2010 explaining why all the polling models oversampled democrats by 9% and were modeled after 2008 instead of 2012. The election was stolen. The GOP may be a dinosaur but conservative values are not truly found among the lifetime GOP members. very few of them represent who the tea party majority is. The “stand down” orders from Blaze to those of us who have been watching and reading do not make any sense when looking at the big picture.
  
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- TheSurrealTruth
  Posted on December 5, 2012 at 9:50am
  @SILVERTRUTH: Well said.
  
  I’m a bi-racial Conservative, and the more Republicans talk about appealing to my race and others, the more repelled by them I feel. We’re not tools with which to win an election. We’re people, treat us as such.
  
  Progressives appeal to idiots, and it turns out that idiots care about race.
  
  Conservatives have a great message, they just need to get it out there. We need to engage and CHANGE the culture, and break through the media bias, not join in the insanity.
  
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- smv803
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 11:31am
  The old, white man voter label is just another democrap scheme; just another war, like the war on women, the war on poverty, global warming etc, etc, etc. they have cornered the market on liars and cheats. Perfected their journey to the extreme. That party has been hijacked by communist aggressors and until the normal ones, ( I say this with reservations) the normal ones wondering what the hell happened to their party, and wake up.
  
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ProudCapitalist
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:11am
It is not just the Reagan Coalition that is dead. Capitalism and freedom are dead. It is too late to turn back, with the country enslaved by the federals and their handouts, unless the states hold a Constitutional Convention and rewrite the Constitution, a second revolution.

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- Cavallo
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:14am
  We need a new country. On the bright side if we give them everything they want the collapse of the system will occur faster and maybe we can pick up the pieces after with principles of liberty and freedom. The country is doomed, and in quite a few important ways is already dead.
  
  USA RIP
  
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- YouCantExplainThat
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:20pm
  There are plenty of other countries. Just take your pick, and good riddance.
  
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- cathouseumbrella
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:48pm
  It’s funny how the old man party whines like a bunch of emo 15 year olds when they don’t get their way.
  
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- Keatonc33
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:11pm
  HAHAHA freedom and capitalism are dead? How? please! please explain to me how! how have you lost one freedom? and how would a 4.6% increase on the wealthiest americans kill capitalism?
  
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Pantloadian
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:09am
We need a liar like Reagan in the White House again.
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- Think_4_yourself
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:11am
  Load in my pants, do you have to work at being so filled with hate or does it just come naturally?
  
  It amazes me that you are in complete denial about your precious one the in the WH has not been anything but truthful to the American citizens. Ther has been lie after lie after lie after lie after lie coming from this administration. Be sure to take lots of pictures of this wonderful trip we are headed on, it’s gonna be great!
  
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- searcher619
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:28pm
  No we need people like you to grow a set, get out of your parent’s basements, and start living in the real world for a change.
  
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- iampraying4u
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:49pm
  speaking of liars have you heard bo lately
  
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- Keatonc33
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:14pm
  I agree! whats not to love about reagan? raised taxes more than any president in our history, Granted amnesty to illegal immigrants and sold weapons to Iran! whats not to love conservatives?
  
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- Immental
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:43pm
  I’ll take a hit of that joint. DAMN IM SEEING NIXON EVERYWHERE. oh wait.. that’s obama. Yeah he didn’t raise the highest tax on the American people or anything this year, he just… gave us free healthcare. Time for another joi… oh hello there pill bottles :3
  
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servant100
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:08am
What do you do when a few of us are right and everybody else is wrong? What do you do when the “truth” is purposefully obscured. What do you do when the “mos maiorum” the way of the elders, the willingness hold the good of the community (the concept of thinking about others first) over your own selfish interests. What do you do when “truth” is now defined not objectively but as relative to each small minicommunity faction.

The answer is simple…you implode…. There is NO single right or wrong…thus the law becomes irrelevant. The concept of civilized behavior thus collapses because self interest becomes paramont. The society thus descends into anarchy as described in the book of judges..where everyone does what is right in their own eyes. You can no longer be assured that following the law will protect you and your family because the “winners” of the political lottery enforce the law to suit their own self interests only.

Your only way to ensure your survival and that of your family is to pick the individual who will win…and attach yourself to that person like a leach. Your patron will protect you. This adherance to a person rather than principle is the definition of barbarism.

America became a barbarian state under Bill Clinton.,… Obama merely accelerated that move…into blatant tyranny.

I am afraid we are facing total collapse as a republic. In fact we are mirroring the collapse of the Roman Republic exactly….

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- sleepnomore
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:10pm
  Read Glenn’s book-AGENDA 21- it need to have age limits too! .Go to local meetings-look for sustainable this sustainable that-all goes back to agenda 21, no matter where u live it is everywhere-we could win this one. some places already have, now b-4-it;s to late. Locally done, look for it go to meetings, look for words like sustainable this sustainable that–it all goes to agenda21–no cars, no nothing-and a lot less ppl. unreal, I hate the lef t, act like they care-what a joke. money money and power that is it. hese unioins, done-no more them either. WE THE PEOPLE elect-they work for us,
  
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ares338
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:08am
Princess squattin’ hefer doesn’t need to vote. She has a casino. Come on white man…..I’m gonna win back my land.

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- 3monkeysmomma
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:13am
  INDIAN Americans—— FROM INDIA you racist idiot!
  
  Native Americans are less than 1% of the population now. Nobody bothers to court us.
  -signed Princess Squatting Heifer
  
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- Locked
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:13am
  Wrong type of “Indian American”…
  
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- antitheism
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:44am
  Typical blaze member, can’t even be bothered to read the article.
  
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- repairsea
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:19am
  I prefer to be recognized by my tribe. The liberal social workers have had many tribes’ children killed by putting one Indian tribe member into different tribe member group for foster care. Not all tribes worked together. The Mexican and Spanish killed more Indians than “whites”. It was the French that took scalps and made it profitable for Indians. So revisionist history, again, points their racist finger at “whites”.
  
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- hlc
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:52pm
  Although small in numbers, Native Americans may end up playing a vital role in our nation’s salvation -if such a thing is still possible. Many things would have to fall into place, but since they enjoy sovereignty on tribal lands, these may form the basis of a “last stand” if you will, against the despotic onslaught. They would have to concur, of course, and allow non-natives residency, or sanctuary, or something like that, while at the same time jeopardizing their revenue from non-taxed businesses. But one can always hope that they view their ability to pursue happiness for future generations the same way we do – possible only alongside limited, Constitutional Government,
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:55pm
  Anti
  And you are nontypical?
  
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jungle J
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:06am
The complexities of politics are too advanced for the uninformed, the lazy, the degenerated mind and the dishonest. Since the American social fabric is now woven with the majority of the a fore mentioned we are doomed if we continue to allow them to be equal players in our society.

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- Deuteronomy22
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:41am
  Yes it is shamefully how ignorant our electorate has become. I see it all the time, narrow minded bigots who get all their information from Fox News and talk radio have no idea that they are being misled daily with market tested propaganda. For example calling all rich people job creators, calling Obama a socialist while corporate pay and profits along with inequality have risen during his first term, the entire birther nonsense, or rationalizing the defeat of Romney to Obama handouts. Alas.
  
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- Jaimo
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:06pm
  So true, when most of the uninformed electorate get their news and information from the likes of NBC, ABC, CBS, NPR and MSNBC this is what you get. Stupid people voting for stupid people.
  
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- Bobgood1
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 4:23pm
  @Deuteronomy22 — You should try looking at a real News station, with a Fair & Balanced Reporting. The WH approved reporting, scripted by Pres. Obama, smacks of the Russian rules of play. The incessant lies coming from the WH and endless talking points that the ” Robot,” followers of Obama have chanted & memorized like good little Socialist. The presumption of the position of di ct at or having taken place, Pres. Carter’s starting the Gov. Dept of Education, Allowed the Fed. to slowly take over the school system . This allowed the Indoctrination of our children. Hence, You have a Pre-Programmed Voters. Some of the more aggressive teachers, made the News ( Fox ) for pushing Obama & Bullying conservative students. School voting Polling places with King Obama painted on the wall.
  
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- Marine25
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:21pm
  @bobgood
  I did try looking at the fair and balanced network. They reported for a month that Romney would win the election, that all the polls were intentionally biased and would bear no resemblance to election results. They said the GOP would take the Senate, gain seats in the House. They reported that networks and pollsters predicting a Democratic electoral landslide and Dem gains in the house would be proven wrong, partisan, and liberally biased.
  Fox wasn’t just wrong, they were exposed. They ruined their credibility. Why should I ever respect their reporting again?
  
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3monkeysmomma
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:04am
What about all those nice young Ron Paul- loving hipster conservatives we just ran off?

We think its easier to court democrat asians?

The GOP has lost its freakin mind….along with what was left of its values. Very sad.

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- justangry
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:22am
  It only gets worse. Boehner is now removing rebellious republicans from prominent steering committees. Justin Amash was removed from budget committee.
  
  http://www.rollcall.com/news/gop_steering_committee_shuffles_conservatives-219601-1.html
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:24am
  “We?” You have a mouse in your pocket? Did you vote for Romney? Ron Paul supporters were never part of the Republican / Conservative coalition to begin with… c’mon with the disingenuousness…
  
  “Hipsters?”… “HIPSTERS?” Your average Ron Paul supporter is about as dull as sun baked auto paint in Florida sunshine…
  
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- TMOverbeck
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:57am
  If John “Interstates Before Impeachments” Boehner is re-elected Speaker, THEN I’ll be convinced the Republican Party is a lost cause. Andrew Wilkow calls him a “monkey humping a football”. He’s only bold when it’s convenient for him, otherwise it’s politics as usual. Ryan, Bachmann, Amash… someone like them, someone who’s gonna hold the line for fiscal responsibility and call BS on the president even when it may make them look bad, is what we need badly in the speaker’s chair.
  
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- circleDwagons
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:58am
  Time, Just heard Beck say he was a Lover of Liberty. Always cracks me up when he calls himself a libertarian.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:21am
  CIRCLED. I suggest… like Beck apparently did… you identify the rabble within the supposed “Liberty Movement” and kick it to the curb. IMO that would be at least 50% to 75% of the Ron Paul crowd. THEN and ONLY THEN can the “Liberty Movement” be taken with a measure of seriousness as a viable alternative to the mess we have now…
  
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- Classical Liberal
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:32am
  @time, good luck being part of the now obsolete republican mess.
  
  And good luck bringing more idiots into the ‘destroy this country with debt’ tent the party has created. Sure to bring in lots of voters new members with that agenda. Almost as good as anybody but Obama.
  
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- USANUMBERONE
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:00pm
  gop don,t get it. that is why 3 million republicans didn’t vote.
  
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- dflocks80
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:01pm
  @Time_2_End
  
  What “rabble” are you talking about? The ones who don’t think the government should legislate morality (aka the ones that the media cannot really paint a negative picture of, since they’re not blatant hypocrites)?
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:08pm
  Okay CLASSIC… you seem to be in the know eh? Tell me (in great detail) how Ron Paul’s $1 trillion deficit reduction idea would have NOT hurtled our fragile economy into an almost immediate recession and put millions out of work in a year and how THAT would have benefited our nation?
  
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- longknifed
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:13pm
  Clearly there are some who will proudly go down with their ship.
  
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- dflocks80
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:06pm
  @Time_2_End
  
  Is someone who cannot understand the difference between a “liberal” and a “libertarian” really capable of handling the “great detail” you demand?
  
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- 3monkeysmomma
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:27pm
  @ Time-2-end
  
  Actually, Iceland implemented many of the policies Paul was sugggesting after their economic meltdown and now they are in better shape than most of Europe and the USA.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 4:42pm
  So how do you recitfy the stoned antisemites, racist, wankers within the Pauls/Johnson circle of urine? They peed themselves into a corner, talk about liberties that only affect them personally, not across the board, smell like ows on a good day, and actually are closer aligned to ows than anything…how does one get beyond those that are already beyond redemption? How does defense of the 2nd come into play with pot brownies in day school? How does leave me alone deal with nuclear misfits? Once they come down from a bad mexican weed buzz, it’s back to the same isolationalists bs and blather.
  
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:01am
Voter fraud + too many OBAMAZOMBIES = Depression part II coming right up.

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- Marine25
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:20am
  Keep telling yourself that. Voter fraud, voter fraud, voter fraud….You’ll get your a$$ kicked again in 2016.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:36am
  PRO: Depression..end of capitalism ? You bet . Obama II promises all of that . Like the current California port strike, hardly mentioned in the Lefty Lap Dog Media . Am sure Obama will continue his divisive ” soak the rich” rhetoric while strikes and OWS obstructions and the usual MIC checks will increase. THAT is what radical Lefties always do. They love civil unrest and riots.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:58am
  Wrong answer,the country will get it’s @ss kicked unless we get a constitutionalist for president instead of a politician.
  
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- checkingbothsides
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:58pm
  That’s funny – I heard Glenn Beck say yesterday that his team looked into voter fraud as a reason why Obama won, and CAME UP WITH NOTHING. You’re barking up the wrong tree friend.
  
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- YouCantExplainThat
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:24pm
  Time to prepare for the OBAMAPOCALYPSE.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:57pm
  @CHECKINGBOTHSIDES I didn’t say it was the only reason and if you see my original post you’ll see it,I said it was part of the reason. The other reason was that too many people believed the Marxist mulatto’s BS lies that there’s such a thing as a free lunch.They like big government and the Marxist pig will deliver in spades on that issue. I’m actually looking forward to the inevitable depression and we’ll see who survives,friend.
  
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djeffcoat
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:54am
I think this is total BS! The majority of those who voted for Obama are either gullible or ignorant and they believe what they see and hear from the pro-Obama mainstream media. The MSM bought this election for Barry because he fits their left-leaning agenda. True un-biased journalism is dead in this country. The MSM has become a propaganda wing for Barry and as long as they lean left we are doomed.

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- Pantloadian
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:05am
  But Fox News is the most powerful name in news. And Rush is the most powerful man in America. And talk radio is the most powerful political voice in the country. And broadcast network news is dead. And the New York Times id failing. So how can you blame the MSM? Sorry, you gotta live in reality. Obama won because the majority of American voters rejected Tea Party hysteria and the agenda of right wing extremists.
  
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- starman70
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:12am
  AMEN!!! The communist oriented mainstream media bought the election for Barry.
  
  Until we can find young people who have not been brainwashed by communist college professors, young people who have an entrepenurial spirit, Young people who put country first and not self interest, young people who don’t believe that the end justifies the means, young people who believe in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, Young people who believe in Biblical morality and not the mantra touted bu the left (If it feels good, do it) there will be no hope of returning America to greatness. There will be no hope of seeing America thrive again.
  
  Unfortunately, after years of brainwashing by the liberal, leftist school system and unionized teachers who look only for the paycheck and benefit packages at taxpayer expense, not the furtherance of Constitutional values, such young people will be far and few between.
  
  GOD HELP AMERICA!!!
  
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- barber2
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:31am
  LOAD: The MSM is totally in the pocket of the radical Left. And the billions Soros and Lefties have put into media outlets / Center For American Progress styled activist groups , outweighs any conservative voice. Another difference ? Conservative media are out in the open and rather easy targets, like Rush and Fox. The Left operates, like Smoke and Mirrors/ Hidden School records/ UN Obama ” talking points ” administration, under the radar in so many areas all over the globe.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:21pm
  ” And talk radio is the most powerful political voice in the country”
  
  That is not true. It is very powerful & that is why liberals try to kill it although there are any number of liberal talk show hosts.
  
  Money spread around as way of ensuring loyalty speaks louder. You might be beholden to the person spreading the money & thus enslaved, but you are nonetheless loyal.
  
  For instance Pantloadian/Wango (notice the fecal fixation) would not dream of striking out on his own & starting a magazine like the Onion & be his own man. Instead he is beholden to a liberal paymaster.
  
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- YouCantExplainThat
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:26pm
  Satan is hiding behind every TV. Destroy your TV, it is all evil.
  
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Locked
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:53am
I think the take-away from this is pretty obvious. Let me quote the article:
“when the Republican Party loudly touts its allegiance to “Christian values” and insists that Christianity is inextricably interwoven into the DNA of this country, it doesn’t anger Indians, it nonplusses them. It effectively signals to them that they don’t fully belong in America or their party. ”
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“On the “push” side of the ledger, the Republican Party has not been helped by its close liaison with the tea party movement, which received low favorability ratings in our 2012 survey, nor by presidential candidates and party activists emphasizing Christian values.”
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“. Those in the tech industry that remain Republican tend to skew libertarian, meanwhile, and completely reject the party’s dogma on social issues.”

As soon as the GOP takes a firm hands-off stance about social issues, and focus solely on fiscal ones, they’ll win elections again.

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- TMOverbeck
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:01am
  If they can balance that with an assurance to churches and religious organizations that the GOP will maintain the free exercise of religion (as in: legal safeguards from overzealous leftists), that may be the way to go.
  
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- abefij
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:05am
  Every four years we are told to abandon our principles to win elections. It is those principles however that the campaign was not run on. A leader doesn’t need triangulation, strategy sessions, or pandering to specific groups. We need someone who tells us we are all Americans, and unites us while actually standing for something. If we want a great leader though, we need to be great people. Restoring Love was a great start, and going forward is the only approach that can work. If we are content to abandon our neighbors to their fate we are the problem.
  “The Government of a nation itself is usually found to be but the reflex of the individuals composing it. The Government that is ahead of the people will inevitably be dragged down to their level, as the Government that is behind them will in the long run be dragged up. In the order of nature, the collective character of a nation will as surely find its befitting results in its law and government,
  as water finds its own level. The noble people will be nobly ruled, and the ignorant and corrupt ignobly. Indeed all experience serves to prove that the worth and strength of a State depend far less upon the form of its institutions than upon the character of its men. For the nation is only an aggregate of individual conditions, and civilization itself is but a question of the personal improvement of the men, women, and children of whom society is composed.” – Samuel Smiles
  
  If you don’t stand for something, you stand for
  
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- Locked
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:45am
  @Abefij
  
  “If we are content to abandon our neighbors to their fate we are the problem.”
  
  If you expand government to force your views on someone, you are the problem in my book. Whether you’re a Democrat or a “social” conservative; if you need to use the law to force people how to think and act then you’re not a conservative, don’t care for the Constitution, and are insulting the very people you claim to be helping.
  
  The end result of being far-right is the same as far-left: big government and sanctioned morality. Both lead to ruin. If the GOP wants to present itself as a viable alternative to the Democrats, they need to stop expanding the government to mandate social morality, and focus on valid fiscal plans.
  
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- Jaimo
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:09pm
  That’s what the Tea Party was supposed to be about. No social issues, just fiscal conservatism.
  
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- abefij
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:34pm
  Locked,
  
  You read what I wrote quite the wrong way. What was there in the Restoring Love meme that advocated force? I’m saying we need to love our neighbors and not abandon our principles and values.
  When we talk about seceding, or say those hit by hurricane Sandy got what they deserve, then we miss our best opportunities to help others and change lives. We need to show those who voted for Obama the contrast between Gov’t ineptitude and genuine help through private channels. Sending help into those areas in the immediate aftermath of Sandy through the churches was brilliant, but should have been done on a much larger level. We all need to be involved individually in such efforts.
  I’m afraid that those who turned off after the election are abandoning the very solutions we were just arriving at before the elections.
  We need to double down in those areas, and the politics will follow.
  
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cloudsofwar
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:53am
well i guess that in 2016 race whites need not apply. it will be all about race and or gender. sounds like it’s about time for a third party. time for new leadership in the GOP. boehner out.this sounds like bad news for 2014 and if the dems take over both houses, bye bye american pie.

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- 3monkeysmomma
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:10am
  I hope you don’t mind the smell of marijuana fumes, because it looks like all the conservatives are heading for the Libertarian Party.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:26am
  CLOUDS: The Chicago radicals have taken the Democrat Party so far Left, that an opposing movement to the right would be a natural out-come . A third party ? Or will the more moderate Democrats leave the Chicago Democrats and become Republicans ( if the Party gets on message , organized and more united ? )
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:01am
  It’s time for a new country. A third party will be a token voice. The system can’t stand as it is. There is no iron curtain keeping people in .. yet.. sooner or later the government free ride bubble will pop, its a matter of math.
  
  USA RIP
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:04am
  “I hope you don’t mind the smell of marijuana fumes, because it looks like all the conservatives are heading for the Libertarian Party.”
  
  Lmao… Mary Jane Johnson was on par with Obama with his BIG government progressiveness while Goobener of New Mexico… so it must have been all about the dope eh?
  
  Just think how many votes he may have gotten if more pot heads were able to get off the couch for him??
  
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- dflocks80
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:07pm
  @Time_2_End
  
  Yeah, you caught us. Libertarians are all about smoking weed. Never mind the fact that many of us (myself included) have never used it, nor would we if it was legal.
  
  Are there a few bad apples who erroneously identify themselves as libertarians with weed being the primary issue in mind? Probably. Are there those in the Republican party who see banning gay marriage as the primary political issue? Oh yeah. And unlike the Republicans who throw bones to their anti-gay subset at the cost of elections, the Libertarians are not beholden to their minority.
  
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- SquareHead
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 6:02pm
  @Time_To_Wake_Up_And_Apologize_For_Being_Part_Of_The_Problem
  Ron Paul could have been our president elect now had it not been for weak kneed, lemming types like you, that turn to TheBlaze, Fox and Talk Radio to find out what to think.. You fell for the hysteria that “The sky is falling, THE SKY IS FALLING” if we don’t vote for the republican version of Obama, namely Mitt. You where saying this along with the DC insiders long before any primary election.
  Yes we are in a crises, but that is because every year lemmings like you listen to the establishment GOP, and you vote in the status quot. The same Congressmen and Senators, and even for the Manikin Mitt, who’s historical accomplishment was to enact socialist care in his state, and to be the first Governor to legalize gay marriage, he has been pro choice, and anti 2nd amendment his whole life until 5 years ago.
  But simpletons like yourself along with the majority of Americans that was raised in front of the TV, don’t even know what your congressmen does, and many of you do not even vote in the primary which is the most important election. NO, but when the presidential election comes out you turn of your baseball, and listen a bit extra to talk radio to “educate” yourself.
  
  Ron Paul predicts 911
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hJTisovvjc&list=PL39A1F3DC3D0F3B47&index=4&feature=plpp_video
  
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toomuchgovt
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:49am
This isn’t so much about race as it is about our culture. Reagan convened the message of freedom. Some of the things Romney did and said I didn’t like. In one speech he talked about making sure all the college graduates had “jobs” but never once mention that they might someday become the next Jobs or Gates. Being an employee is great but in America we always should strive to be the employer. You just can’t fake conservatism and American exceptionalism. Palin’s got it, It is that something that comes from within. That spark. Next time, I hope we can stop allowing the left to pick our candidates. Stand up for what we know in our hearts is right. All I heard was Palin will be attacked, but we all knew she was the one.

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- DesertRose1960
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:16am
  By all means, run Sarah Palin! Liberals would die laughing and there won’t be anyone left to oppose her. Sarah Palin is a lazy, greedy, not very bright, boiling with ambition hick from the sticks. She has no shread of credibility with anyone outside of Fox viewers. She couldn’t even hack four years of running a state with fewer than a million residents; how could she manage a diverse country of 300 million?
  
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- Experiment626
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:11am
  Wow, it took all of 5 minutes for Desert Rose to prove TMG right.
  
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- CanadaRocks
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:48pm
  Palin? Really. You wholeheartedly believe that sarah pitbull with lipstick palin is or could be the savior of america? Hahahahahaha!!! Stop! Stop! Im gonna pee my pants!!! I mean yes. Please run sarah palin in the next election. I think she would be very tough for anyone to beat. She did have a great half term in alaska and by all appearances really helped john mccain. Yes i agree. Sarah Palin 2016. Please make it happen.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 4:02pm
  Cannuck
  Point me to the map where canada actually rocked. Are you “socialismrocks” in disguise or an actual believer in canada rocks and if so, where is you skin in the game other than lib subterfuge?
  
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barber2
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:48am
Until conservatives get a handle on the media , nothing will change. The Left radicals have control of the media which is the new tool of political, social, and , sadly, moral ( immoral ? ) indoctrination.

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- fedup ohio
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:01am
  I agree, but I think it is a little to late. Conservatives, were out working to hard and trying to make ends meet and missed what the ever growing non producers were doing to our Great Country.
  
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DougHuffman
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:46am
The GOP, progressive, is dead. To consider an ex-liebraltarian as a RINO beggars the meaning of principle. What principle differentiates progressives libertarians and republicans? NONE, they are progressives individually and severally.

Good people ought to be armed as they will, with wits and Guns and the Truth. God Bless Bitter Clingers, damn progressives, republicans, demoncraps and libertarians. Vote Constitution Party.

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- Locked
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:06am
  “What principle differentiates progressives libertarians and republicans?”
  
  What principle differentiates the Democrats and GOP? They both want big government; they just want to use it to enforce their particular set of ideas. Your choices are Coke or Pepsi.
  
  If you want to offer a viable alternative, then fiscal conservatism is the way to go. Stop legislating morality; if you truly believe in freedom, then you can’t force people to choose the moral path. You need to dismantle the big government that BOTH parties have propped up and make it obvious that making bad choices means you have to face the consequences of those choices. Democrats would refuse to let people be hurt for their bad choices; Republicans would refuse to let people make those choices. Neither one wants freedom or small government.
  
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willingtoupe
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:46am
White Men aren’t the problem, it’s the racist White Men looking out for their own selfish best interest.

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:58am
  “A few years ago, (Obama) would have been getting us coffee.” – Bill Clinton
  
  “(Obama) is light skinned who speaks with no ***** dialect, unless he wanted to have one.” -Harry Reid
  
  I see what you mean.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:14am
  EAST I just shook your hand and a high five!
  
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- Jenny Lind
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:57am
  God job, East. I shake my head all the time, the real racists are the democrats and black people are totally blind to it.
  
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- willingtoupe
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:03am
  Talk is cheap…Action speaks louder than words. Whats the talk? You’re high five reflection of the House of Rep. Committee Appointees vs. the Action of the Liberals that set aside their racism and actually voted in a black President for the first time in history which would seemed impossible for the true racist GOP to do.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 10:30am
  TOUPE Who told you we have a black president? Racist GOP? LMAO,listen the dems ie communist party is filled with racist pigs who keep all minorities down,keep them in generational poverty to justify all their unconstitutional BS social programs. When do you think we’ll get our first black president,and do you think he/she will be as racist as the POS we currently have?
  
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- willingtoupe
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 11:08am
  Progressive Slayer I will answer your failed rhetorical question. Your friend East which you’ve high fived aggreed that Obama is the first black President by requoting Harry Reid about the dialect and Clinton calling him a coffee Gopher… And as far a voting in a racist black President in a still white majority country (nothing wrong with that by the way) is such an oxymoron. I wonder if you listen to yourself when you talk or even you pay attention to the things you do? When the government is worried about whats allowed inside a woman pants all the time against her will (rape), that is a form a Communism. And I hope if the “GOP” does vote for their first black President, there is no hindering litmus test.
  
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- katzkiner
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:51pm
  I wish whites were as racist as they are accused of being , 98% of them would have voted for the white man like 98% of blacks voted for the black man. Who u callin racist?
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:13pm
  Okay I’ll try again, ‘ Committee Appointees vs. the Action of the Liberals that set aside their racism and actually voted in a black President’. Your words,now will you please answer,who told you we have a black president? I’ll let you in on a secret,Barry Soetoro aka Barrack Hussein Obama or whatever name he’s used over the years to get a ‘free’ education and a ‘free’ ride in life is in fact a mulatto. Simpletons will think that’s racist when it’s just a fact.
  
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raderby
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:44am
eat me. Just give up then. GOP=Whigs.

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toiletclogga
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:42am
Racial politics divides. Run on a platform for all. Do away with affirmative action, and special programs (tax deferred status) for any one particular group. If we need to start taxing faith based groups, so be it. Treat everyone as equal, and this means the so-called villified rich. Poor people as well as rich people should be taxed so that everybody has skin in the game. All people who work should be vested in 401k retirement plans, and pensions should be abolished and dissolved. People looking to eke out a living on welfare should be required to administered drug testing, and should have to show up to get their food stamps (yes, food stamps and not a debit card). Our nation has run amok with entitlements to certain ethnic groups just to garner a vote.

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- barber2
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:13am
  TOILET: Totally agree. This ” Black Caucus” idea from the 60s has got to go. Obama was elected because he was bi-racial, but his administration fails to promote the concept of just being an American. Especially with this anti-rich, anti-Tea Party ( wink, wink ), anti-Republican divisive rhetoric.
  
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Winedude
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:40am
@Gary_K: Give up on the stolen election nonsense. Was there some fraud? Probably. But were 4 weeks past the election with a clear winner. Not sure why Romney supporters are such cry-babies. My first vote ever was for Nixon, a clear mistake from the beginning. At least in 1960, when JFK defeated him, Nixon had the class to say that at least JFK stole the election fair & square. So please quit the whining.
The GOP is never going anywhere as long as they are dominated by Christian evangelicals. Women aren’t going to vote GOP in large enough numbers to win as long as the GOP sticks their nose in reproductive rights. Why men are allowed to tell women what to do with their bodies is a mystery to me, always has been. This article is spot on for reasons why groups that obviously should be embracing the GOP are not…It’s made up of a collection of rectal pores!

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- Winedude
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:46am
  type…should read: ”we’re 4 weeks…”
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:59am
  “Why men are allowed to tell women what to do with their bodies is a mystery to me, always has been.”
  
  We have women’s reproductive rights, but where are men’s rights eh?
  
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- toiletclogga
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:02am
  Get over it yourself Winedude. This election was not about “reproductive rights.” It was about catering to single women who have been brainwashed into thinking that they do not need a husband, and that they would be better off having the state subsidize the costs of caring for their children; much like the African American and Hispanic communities. Until relative moralism is embraced by the American community in total, we can expect those who wish to replace the male’s role, a.k.a. The Government, to keep winning elections. I’d imagine Democrats are going to run out of people to villify soon, and then things get real messy.
  
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- Marine25
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:31am
  @winedude
  Well said. The GOP cried these same sorts of electoral delusions after 2008, convinced themselves it was all fraud, or lazy voters, bad polling. Kept them from spending 4 years figuring out that women are going to support the other guy as long as you choose evangelical fictions over reproductive rights and women’s health. Kept them from figuring out that unless they stop demonizing every hispanic American they are going to turn Texas and Arizona blue before long. Kept them from realizing that their utter disrespect for the President of the United States made them look petty, unsophisticated, and unpatriotic to many voters. The GOP has been taken over by idiots and amateurs.
  
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- CanadaRocks
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:54pm
  Marine. Great post. But waaaaay to logical for the blaze readers. Repubs have never and would never be involved in voter fraud and they dont have religious nuts either. Just ask them and they will tell you the same.
  
  Voterfraud 2016
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 3:08pm
  Wino-do you accept ebt cards?
  25-merchant marine or actual marine?
  Cannuck-wtf? Rocks? How and where?
  
  This fine trio is somehow relevant to a conservative conversation? It’s like asking a paulbot if weed is essential to life. Issue one being have a decent conversation with decent people. 25, wino, cunnuck, none of you has skin in the game as 0 likes to say. You dilute and distract any actual discourse. Sure, real groundbreaking conversation, with a lib, a liar, and a leech.
  
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fedup ohio
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:39am
The GOP just doesn’t get it. The more they try to be in the middle to get more votes, the more they lose true conservative votes. What I am seeing now, after the election is disgraceful. The GOP looks like chickens with their heads cut off. No direction at all.

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crazymensa
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:33am
A big problem that republicans have is they are fighting against an electorate that has little to no understanding of basic economic principles. They don’t teach that stuff in school; they don’t teach people how to establish a household budget (many don’t even have adequate basic math skills). Consequently, the bad habits of the parents are passed to their children. Another issue is a vast majority of people (my opinion) have little or no impulse control. They do not have the ability, it seems, to tell themselves “NO”! So they put themselves in such deep debt. Of course, personal responsibility and culpability aren’t fostered in a more liberal environment. My conclusion, therefore, has nothing to do with old white men; it has more to do with appealing to people that they now have to behave as adults! Being the proverbial parent is going to be a difficult task, at best!

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- cathouseumbrella
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:54am
  I think the biggest problem conservatives have is they claim to be about personal freedoms yet they keep supporting policies that threaten personal freedoms.
  
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VanGrungy
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:31am
Until whites notice that they are an endangered breed of human nothing will change.

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- SocialistSlayer
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:38am
  Too late – I don’t know where you live but in most populated parts of the US the Whites are now the Minority – Funny thing is for all purposes they are treated as the majority giving non whites a leg up in most areas of life. What a Croc this country has become !
  
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- Locked
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:10am
  “Until whites notice that they are an endangered breed of human”
  
  As a white man, I’m curious what you mean by this. How am I an endangered breed of human? My skin color doesn’t define me; my values do. By making this statement, you show yourself every bit as invested in racial politics as minority groups.
  
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Metallicat
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:31am
Why does everyone assume the only white people left are all old? are they really saying that white people no longer matter? I see lots of young white people everyday,whites are not going extinct anytime soon,and we all didnt come to a consensus that Obama is our messiah,and progressive liberalism is the only way.

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USA-Ron
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:28am
making the statement about “Old White Men” is Racist !!!

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- barber2
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 9:18am
  RON: But, today, it is so politically acceptable.. oh, except you forgot to add the ” racist, dumb ******* ” before the phrase !
  
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- USANUMBERONE
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:06pm
  old white men are making this statement. everyone is making this statement. wish we could just be human.
  
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:27am
What is this crap? Reagan wasn’t trying to just win with old white guys. Besides, what the heck is wrong with old white guys? Old white liberal guys are the problem. I’m sick of this crap. Just be conservative and talk about freedom and right and wrong. We need to start infiltrating pop-culture just as the liberals have done for 50 years now. Reagan made it cool to be conservative. That’s what we need to be selling. If we start pandering to ethnic groups, we are further dividing the country just as the Democrats are trying to do. I will have no part of it.

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- ALLEGIANCE
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:43am
  The problem with infiltrating pop culture for Republicans, is the aproach. it’s wrong and always have been.
  
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- raderby
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:47am
  democrat lite isn’t going to make it. there is wrong, and there is right. The progs are wrong. What remains? Certainly not marxism.
  
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- cathouseumbrella
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:52am
  “Reagan made it cool to be conservative.” Haha, Reagan was about the furthest thing from being cool.
  
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- SimpleTruths
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:21pm
  I know you don’t want to hear this but the fact is the only Republican that could have given Obama a real run for his money is John Huntsman. Of course almost all on this site discount him as being a Republican at all. But if you keep thinking that candidates like Cain, Santorum, Perry, Bachmann, Gingrich (or, god forbid, Palin) are going to rally the majority of the country – you will keep losing.
  
  You can call the Country a lost cause and hunker down in your bunker with your ammo, gold and survival seeds – or you can face reality and do something positive to move the country in the direction you feel it should go. For myself, I’m happy the direction the country is going.
  
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- Kregneva
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 2:10pm
  S-Quid Veto Hi-O
  Rupert Murdock thinks we can get enough UK expats – mostly British and Australian – we can keep the Old white Guy meme going for another decade. That’s why he pays folks to fill the Blaze with hate. Too bad this approach only loses – and loses big after a while. “You can fool all of the people some of the time, …” Anyway let’s get some of the “right” illegals to land here just before the Amnesty is announced.
  
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Gary_K
Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:17am
I say BULL SHEIT.

The election was stolen.

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- blanco5
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 8:26am
  Agreed
  
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- Small World
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:06pm
  Me too !
  
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- SimpleTruths
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 12:24pm
  Keep diluting yourself while you stack your gold, ammo and survival seeds. Real American’s have work to do.
  
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- YouCantExplainThat
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 1:28pm
  Keep thinking that way, please, it will be stolen again in 2016 and 2020 and …
  
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- chicago76
  Posted on December 4, 2012 at 7:44pm
  My goodness look at all the Obamazombies. Know why Obama won’t admit he is a communist. If he does the American people will have every right to overthrow the government with force of arms. In fact it was two Democrats who crusaded against communists. Truman and Lyndon Johnson. Obama would have no legitimacy as president and could be considered a spy and enemy of our people, Truman and Johnson, if he admits he is a communist. He will never admit it. He can’t.
  
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