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NSA Whistleblower Explains Chilling Interview: ‘Everyone in the U.S. Is Under Virtual Surveillance’

Dec. 5, 2012 8:45am Erica Ritz

William Binney, a whistleblower at the National Security Agency (NSA), had his life turned upside down after revealing to the public just how much information the United States government is gathering on its citizens. He says the most recent wave began after September 11, 2001, but that it has only accelerated in recent years.

A 32-year veteran of the agency, Binney had the title of senior technical director and was considered one of the foremost mathematicians and code breakers in the business, according to a documentary featured in the New York Times. He quit, however, after the NSA started using programs it had developed to spy on foreign governments, to spy on Americans.

He has not been silent since his resignation, and is warning Americans from every platform he can find. He recently gave a chilling interview to Russia Today, and then spoke with TheBlaze TV.

With Russia Today, Binney reiterated how the government is collecting information on everyone, not just national security risks and suspected national security risks. Then, if you become a target “for whatever reason,” he explained, ” the government can go in– or the FBI, or other agencies of the government– they can go into their database, pull all that data collected.”

And with hundreds of thousands of pages of regulations these days, you are doing something wrong.

Here is a partial transcript from the interview:

RT: You blew the whistle on the agency when George W. Bush was the president. With President Obama in office, in your opinion, has anything changed at the agency, in the surveillance program? In what direction is this administration moving?

WB: The change is it’s getting worse. They are doing more. He is supporting the building of the Bluffdale facility [in Utah], which is over two billion dollars they are spending on storage room for data. That means that they are collecting a lot more now and need more storage for it…

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RT: It seems that the public is divided between those who think that the government surveillance program violates their civil liberties, and those who say, ‘I’ve nothing to hide. So, why should I care?’ What do you say to those who think that it shouldn’t concern them?

WB: The problem is if they think they are not doing anything that’s wrong, they don’t get to define that. The central government does, the central government defines what is right and wrong and whether or not they target you. So, it’s not up to the individuals. Even if they think they aren’t doing something wrong, if their position on something is against what the administration has, then they could easily become a target.

RT: Tell me about the most outrageous thing that you came across during your work at the NSA.

WB: The violations of the Constitution and any number of laws that existed at the time. That was the part that I could not be associated with. That’s why I left. They were building social networks on who is communicating and with whom inside this country. So that the entire social network of everybody, of every US citizen was being compiled over time. So, they are taking from one company alone roughly 320 million records a day. That’s probably accumulated probably close to 20 trillion over the years. [Emphasis added]

Here is the video, via Russia Today, for more:

When Binney appeared on TheBlaze TV on Tuesday, co-host Pat Gray asked whether he had any fear for his safety, being one of the few people who has had access to the top levels of the NSA to go public with the information. There are several others, but Binney says he believes he is just doing his duty as an American.

“I feel I’m doing the job that a citizen is supposed to do, standing up for the Constitution and the rights of the people,” he said humbly.

Binney proceeded to explain the transformation he witnessed within the NSA– how the program would go from graphing the social networks of potential terrorists, to compiling such graphs on everyone.

At first, he tried to change the organization from the inside:

“I was working with several others [within] the NSA who were with me in this, trying to get the government to address the unconstitutional and illegal activity that they were doing… but we were basically totally unsuccessful in getting them to even recognize that they should change their ways and start doing things legally, out in the open, in a constitutionally acceptable way.”

Binney then discussed the recent resignation of Gen. David Petraeus over an extra-marital affair, and how his private communications were intercepted.

“As far as the actual government goes, [adultery] is not a high crime and misdemeanor here,” co-host Stu Burguiere weighed in. “It’s sort of secondary, and they’ll go to that extent to out somebody who may have had a political issue. That’s frightening.”

Combine that with the government’s friendly relationship with Google (and Google’s work to be able to predict your future actions), the history of big government, and this government’s willingness to declare its political opponents enemies and terrorists, and it would be foolish not to be concerned about the course we’re on.

Watch the entire interview from TheBlaze TV, below:

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Comments (145)

Immental
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 5:53pm
I climb Trafic lights in my small texas town and paint the lens black. It took em 3 weeks to realize what was happening. Still doing time at the local library for painting them with black hair paint :P My next goal is to paint all the illuminate cameras hidden in the eye sockets of liberals with FLAMES.

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nighttrainno9
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 5:44pm
I don’t think we have any options at this point, our communist govt.
is attacking from every angle. I fully expect to see troops coming down my
driveway anytime. We have a huge army within the United States and we
need to get together and organize. I just hope I can take a few of the commies
out before they get me. Thats that many fewer troops for my neighbors.

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- ChiefGeorge
  Posted on December 5, 2012 at 10:22pm
  Your now on the list! Not because I’m reporting you but because you just self reported you!
  
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- nighttrainno9
  Posted on December 6, 2012 at 7:24am
  Hi Chief
  I was already on the list.
  
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jaylew
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 5:02pm
Hey NSA…..write this down in your jaylew database…..go Eff yoursleves….as fast and hard as you can.

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Lara
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 4:48pm
This interviewer looks like that actress in the Mummy movies

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demsrtraitors
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 4:33pm
I used to think people who said 9-11 was an inside job was insane. Now i’m not so sure anymore. I love my country but I don’t trust my government. Especially RINO’s and democrats.

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Rational Man
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 4:16pm
God is always watching everyone. Maybe if more people were concerned about that, the world would be a better place.

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OldSurfRat
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 3:50pm
Hey Blue

Ya might want to change to decaf. LOL
Dial it back there bro. I can understand your frustration but something like that would only make things worse. Head up eyes forward and pray that God will help our leaders do whats right even if they dont mean too.

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welovetheUSA
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 3:05pm
I do believe him…look at judge Roberts……….they found something on him to make him vote for Obama care.

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FlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 2:43pm
Next time i accidentally delete an email, ill call uncle sam to reboot me.

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fatsomann
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 2:11pm
Let’s all start our comments with Hello Big Government Slave or Hi Barry. We’re on the internet where nothing is secret.

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ResistSocialism
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 2:10pm
The good news is the government is dysfunctional and has difficulty putting two and two together even if it smacks them in the head.

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illinioshoj
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:57pm
I’m curious are conservatives the only people who read and understood Goerge Orwells 1984

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- CulperGang
  Posted on December 5, 2012 at 2:06pm
  Oh looky…………..nwo bumped off another nato bureaucrat………..in brussels the eu parliament hq……..”they” =now are getting bold aren’t they……….http://www.firstpost.com/world/serbias-nato-envoy-commits-suicide-at-brussels-airport-546384.html
  the NWO cabal does control white slavery/drug /gun running…so what did this guy know? read and make your own conclusions
  http://serbianna.com/news/archives/6933
  If they know where you are, know what you are doing, they know who you know and what you are up to: They can take you out.
  
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searcher619
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:25pm
This has been going on for a very long time. I’m amazed none of you don’t seem to remember Carnivore and then Echelon. The NSA has had the ability to monitor virtually all communications for a very long time. This guy’s “revelation” is only news to the uninformed.

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airportengineer
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:24pm
I sent this to the BLAZE over THREE (3) DAYS ago!!

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garbagecanlogic
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:00pm
And 98% of the people do not have a clue, because they are too interested in watching dancing with the stars and virtual reality shows.

Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8

The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
The U.N. Out Of The U.S.

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- searcher619
  Posted on December 5, 2012 at 1:26pm
  Honey boo boo!!!!
  
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TheGrtDcptn
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:30pm
‘and this government’s willingness to declare its political opponents enemies and terrorists’…

The above says it all…do not resist our tyranny, or else…

All in the name of power and greed (money)…

Enjoy it while you can…Your time is limited…and your destiny awaits…

May they all reap what they sow for selling their souls…

FOOLS…

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- revelation2012
  Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:53pm
  The CREATOR knows everything ,,,
  
  what they have here and now is ALL that “THEY” will ever have
  
  what “THEY” have done to Others will be done to “THEM” for all time and eternity ,,,
  
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:12pm
If you are a veteran over 55, you are irrelevant. We have passed the age where we can phyically be a threat. All they have to do is just let us die off. To the majority of the current crop of young adults we are simply have no real impact on their lives. The government doesn’t have to take any action with us with the exception of those who actively organize themselves into paramilitary groups. They do not want that type to disrupt the transformation.

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pushinginto
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 11:55am
Why doesn’t RT deal with Poutine and all of the corruption that’s on there?

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CulperGang
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 11:54am
The elite 1% NWO with their puppet useful idiots(politicians) ARE the ACTUAL terrorists of the world. They need to keep an eye out for RIGHTEOUS people who would put this criminal cabal in jail, so they can assasinate them, quietly. http://rense.com/general39/death.htm http://www.apfn.org/apfn/scientists.htm . Government workers. taken out ALL the time..recently a brit spook found dead in the bathtub…..who was about to blow the whistle……..ABOUT TO. So the elites KNEW ahead of time..why because they are using taxpaid for high tech to spy and know ahead of time so the can DEAL WITH “problem childs.” beck was highly vocal…………not no more…guess they put the fear of death in him. Rather be dead and be with God than to live in the shadow of these demons who are now ruling the world.
In the last 20 years the NWO cabal has murdered, politicians, presidents, scientist, spooks………to silence the truth of their thousand of crimes committed daily against the human race. GMO/HAARP/NGOS destroying third world countries….the list is endless…….recent crime against humanity “creating” phantom terrorists blaming Muslims………as they bomb the freeword via oops WTC neatly demolished………oops brit subway bomb……..kobe towers……..yep all their black operation YOU ENABLERS will be in hell.

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Ruckus_Tom
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 11:23am
Lot’s of folks signed government sponsored secession lists. They aren’t on some government database and they won’t have their names forwarded to the IRS or Homeland Security or some other alphabet agency. Nope. They didn’t draw any attention to themselves; not at all.

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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on December 5, 2012 at 3:21pm
  It’s important, when proclaiming liberty, to hide in the basement and only come out when the shadows are long. You know, like a free man.
  
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Akridgerunner
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 11:22am
I hope lots of people are re reading Orwells 1984. This Bluffdale place is the start of exactly what he describes – A screen in every home that watches every move and facial expression that everyone makes. If they don’t like something you say or express in any way, you “disappear.” Laugh all you like but that’s where we’re headed.

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AbrahamsSheepdog
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 11:09am
Keep waisting those taxes. Atleast some kid is like “here he is again, saying something crazy boss” Hey Dummies, why did chicken cross the road……. roll in the mud…… then cross the road again???
He was a dirty double crosser. :)

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AbrahamsSheepdog
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 10:57am
OOh good. Ive survived death, help people, and Jesus is my Lord & king. And have a patriotic crazy loud mouth. Don’t look hard, Big sister. Im watching you watching me watching you.. ain’t no pussycat here, .

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GuruMeditation
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 10:34am
We could all have a real ball with this by providing mass quantities of dis-information.

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term limits for congress
Posted on December 5, 2012 at 10:17am
If you post on TheBlaze, you have a profile at NSA.

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- barber2
  Posted on December 5, 2012 at 10:34am
  How about if you email the White House and tell them their policies stink ?
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on December 5, 2012 at 10:45am
  I already have a profile. This is not surprising to me, given as I had at one time in the 1980′s a Top Secret security clearance (was a SIGINT operative). In a way it’s rather liberating, I have no fear that I will raise eyebrows and draw attention to myself, since I know I already have attention drawn to myself in perpetuity. With nothing to lose, there’s no fear. My thought is, if they want to know more about me than my internet posts, bills and ATM withdrawals, they’re going to have to send a live person(s) to do the investigation. :)
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on December 5, 2012 at 12:16pm
  Ghost
  
  I was in HUMIT. Just like you, I am absolutely sure I have been in the system since 1970. The US Army never gives up what it has collected. That is why I use the Military Intelligence branch insignia as my avatar.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on December 5, 2012 at 3:22pm
  @Vet
  
  Yeah, I recognized the smashed bug immediately. :)
  
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