Will Republicans Change Relationship to Conservative Media After Election Failure?
Editor’s Note: This is the fifth in a series of articles examining what went wrong for the Republican Party in the 2012 presidential election and where the GOP goes from here. Please visit our special section GOP: What Next? to follow the series of stories and find related content.
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A report that Fox News contributors Karl Rove and Dick Morris have been put on the backburner by higher ups at the network feeds into the theory that at least some of the blame for Republicans’ recent electoral failures rests with the conservative media.
It’s an idea that was kicked around by several high-profile Republicans immediately after Mitt Romney lost the election to President Barack Obama and Democrats picked up seats in both the Senate and the House.
On MSNBC a few days after the election, Morning Joe co-host and former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough said “Conservatives have been lied to” by what columnist David Frum called “the conservative entertainment complex.”
GOP strategist and blogger for The Hill John Feehery echoed the sentiment in an interview with The Daily Beast in which he repeated what is becoming a common refrain: “We have a talk-show culture,” Feehery said. “The Rush Limbaughs of the world, I find them very entertaining. But we cannot be cowed by them.” He also said there has been “too much timidity” in Republican leaders to stand up to conservative commentators.
“Entertainment and mockery” isn’t enough, said Ben Domenech, co-founder of the conservative grassroots blog RedState.com. Domenech told BuzzFeed last month that throughout Obama’s first term, conservative media was not invested often enough in “the critical and hard work of investigation.”
Conservative Author Ann Coulter said that while some in the conservative media were unhelpful in getting Republicans elected, there’s the other school of thought that puts the blame on “establishment Republicans.”
“It’s not the conservative media per se, but a few purer-than-thou right-wingers,” she wrote in an email to TheBlaze. “Yes, that’s a problem.” She said, however, conservatives in the chattering class who promoted candidates that lost their races, such as Rep. Todd Akin and Senate candidate Richard Mourdock, were “not helpful.” Akin and Mourdock’s defeats are widely chalked up to public comments they made about rape and abortion.
“The conservatives who promoted these characters also never really stopped attacking Romney to prove their own bona fides, unrelated to substance,” Coulter said. In addition to some conservatives being less than advantageous to the GOP, she said Romney’s defeat is in large part due to the rarity of unseating an incumbent and the changing demographics of the country.
Detroit-based conservative radio host Doc Thompson blames the old guard in the GOP rather than conservative commentators. “It’s not the devout conservatives, in the media or not, that have hurt the Republicans,” he told TheBlaze. “It’s the dinosaurs like Dick Morris and Karl Rove that are more interested in promoting the Republicans (and themselves) than conservatives.”
Thompson said the Republican problem is that the party has “failed at marketing,” ineffectively articulating its message of “personal freedoms and free markets.”
Rove and Morris are perhaps the two most notable examples of conservatives in the media hitting off the mark. Up to the very end, Morris said Romney would decisively win the election. When Morris turned out to be wrong, he went on Fox News and explained that he saw it as his “duty” to boost morale among Romney backers. “And at the time that I said it, I believe I was right,” he said.
And in what will be one of the most memorable moments in history of an election night, Rove, who was sitting in as an analyst during Fox News’ coverage, questioned on air the network’s decision to call the win for Obama. Anchor Megyn Kelly got up from her seat and made the trip through a long hallway to directly speak with the “decision desk.” The desk defended its call, shutting Rove down.
Rove’s team told us he was “not available right now” to comment for this story.
The lengthy list of conservative commentators who predicted a landslide victory for Romney won’t soon be forgotten. In addition to Rove and Morris, conservative columnists George Will and Michael Barone; and CNBC Anchor Larry Kudlow and (full disclosure) Glenn Beck, who owns TheBlaze, also projected an electoral landslide for Romney.
Still, Erik Wemple, media reporter for the Washington Post, doesn’t think those missed calls will be too damaging to conservative commentators. “I guess they’ll be just fine,” he said. “Are they being paid to deliver accurate forecasts? Or was that all just sort of rooting? I wouldn’t want to tar them all with the same brush. They’re not all of the same integrity on that front. But I do think there’s a call for people who are just going to tell you what you want to hear. I think that’s a lot of what entertainment news is about.”
On the question of whether conservative media has disproportionate sway in the GOP, Wemple doesn’t see it. “The Republicans probably appreciate that they whip up a certain part of the base,” he told TheBlaze. “If you’re a moderate Republican, you’re careful of your association with them. But whether they have undue influence… I don’t see enough cross pollination to make that call.”
We requested comment from Morris and Limbaugh for this story and will update if and when they respond.
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Comments (98)
k2weaver
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:05ambe a FREE AMERICAN. ….find ground. STAND.!
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HappyConservative
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:03amAs long as we have a liberal media that refuses to call out blatantly treasonous acts by a demoncrap prez – as long as we have a liberal media that refuses to properly vet a demoncrap candidate, the GOP is completely finished – over and done for. Most Americans -sadly- still rely on ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN for their news and are completely unaware of who Obama really is. They just think you have to be old and rich and white to vote for a Republican and if you’re not those 3 then you have to vote demoncrap. As long as the liberal media has the influence it has, then the GOP might as well hang it up. Sad, but true.
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vehoae
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 9:02pmMr. Scarry — When I began reading, I got only as far as the headline of this article. The headline alone screams what is wrong. You continue the theory that politicians should be dictating to We The People the way things should be. You (or the editors) say in the headline: “Will Republicans change relationship to conservative media …” Although I’m not a Republican, my perspective is that conservative media should change its relationship to Republicans —- as in LEAVE THE GOP IN THE DUST! The time is long long overdue for this.
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KissMyAmericanFlag
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:00pmI’d like to read and/ or hear about someone/s successfully arguing for rescission or set-aside of the 1981 court order against repubs’ challenges to voter fraud, and a reliable judge cancelling the 1981 order, particularly since evidence is or can be made available to argue the solid case: Consequences can be managed, and our country the stronger for demonstration of lawfulness v its opposite. Sooner the better!
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ares338
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 8:36pmThis site is a blizzard of buffoonery. I don’t know who’s worse the moron atheists or the god stomping Republicans
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k2weaver
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:56pmjust be a free american
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sbenard
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 7:32pmThe day after Buckling Boehner purged conservatives of committee charimanships, I went online and switched my party affiliation to “unaffiliated”. I agree 100% with Amy Holmes last night on RealNews:
“I not a Republican. I’m a conservative.” Amy Holmes, Dec. 5, 2012
Right on, Amy! Big difference!
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k2weaver
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:57pmthe progressives just made their move…..what’s ur’s
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The Third Archon
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 6:02pm“Thompson said the Republican problem is that the party has “failed at marketing,” ineffectively articulating its message of “personal freedoms and free markets.””
Maybe that’s because their message rings hollow.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 6:16pmRove, Morris, Coulter… none of these people are conservative. They’ve all sold out, and now, Coulter is leading the charge to rollover.
Republicans went to market with their product, Romney. You can not go to market with a similar product and expect it to sell. It didn’t. That’s the simple problem for Republicans. They’re too much like Democrats.
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The Third Archon
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 6:25pmThere’s SOME accuracy in what you say.
Rove and Coulter (I don’t really know anything about Morris–I can’t follow EVERY conservative icon) I suspect aren’t REALLY that invested in conservatism and are just in it for the money they can exploit from conservative audiences. But the fact that they are successful at doing this tells you something–the views they spout, whether or not THEY believe them, ARE reflective of a fairly substantial plurality of Americans who self-identify as “conservative.” Maybe that’s not what you mean when/if you identify yourself as “conservative”–I don’t know, and frankly I don’t care.
The important point is that a lot of people DO believe that’s conservatism. And yes, Democrats AREN’T too far from that ideology, notwithstanding what incredibly self-deluded “no-true-Scotsman” conservatives will deny as conservatism, the fact of the matter is that politics in this country are pretty narrow in scope with a Rightist party, and a center-Rightist party. In the grand scheme of possible political policy choices, this country’s politics represents about two nanometers wide of the Right.
To the hard-Right, of course, this will never be satisfactory, and to many, it is unrepresentative of their views. But even adjusting for that, our country is sadly skewed to conservatism among personal beliefs in light of comparison to the total range of political beliefs–and look where we are.
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groundzero
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 6:54pmThen can you articulate on their message that is hollow?
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k2weaver
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:59pmthe progressives have mde their moves. what’s next??
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ConservativeFirst
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 10:56amIt kind of reminds me of Obama claiming that he has been ineffective in explaining how great ObamaCare really is! If you have a bad product, all of the marketing isn’t going to change the fact that it is a bad product. It seems that the Republicans are in denial. They want to be and are the Democrats light and can’t seem to understand why they keep losing.
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truthsurfer
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 6:00pmI vote and support conservatives regardless of the state they reside in. I donate to conservative candidates period. RNC does not get a dime from me.
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gbfreak
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:47pmTime for a 3rd party with TRUE CONSERVATIVES and TRUE PATRIOTS!!!!! Let’s end this game!!!
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neverending
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:54pmThat would be great but I just don’t think a third party can win – wish I was wrong and maybe I am but I just don’t see that happening.
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JRook
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:58pm“Conservative Author Ann Coulter said that while some in the conservative media were unhelpful in getting Republicans elected, there’s the other school of thought that puts the blame on “establishment Republicans.” RUK Ann Coulter makes a living being the irrational, psychotic loud mouth for any number of conservative media outlets. I will grant you that usually her idiotic rants are associated with a new book release and thus self serving. You have to be controversial in today’s world to get attention and make money off the angry mob. How else could anyone explain M. Bachmann’s ramblings.
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AmericanLass
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 5:56pmWhat if there were a Mass Defection from Republican Party in favor of a existing Party, like the Libertarian Party. It would have to be an overwhelming MASS Defection to work. Just a thought I’ve been kicking around since I have been thinking of leaving the R Party after the last election.
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ALL4FREEDOM
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 5:57pmTo Neverending: a third party doesn’t have to win (at least, at first). It merely has to be sizable enough to prevent either of it’s opponents from winning without them. THEN you’ll have a horse race!
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:46pmThe Repubicans have to decide if they are serious about wanting to win or not. They will NOt win by beng middle-of-the-road. They must go conservative and give people a choice of who to vote for. Romney was a good man and he was opposite of obama but Romney was trying to be to kind and too polite to Obama. The democrats are communist. There is nothing they will not say or do. They accused Romney basically of killing some worker’s wife in a commercial and Romney never rebuked it in like manner. There were plenty of weaknesses obama had that Romney did not exploit. Conservatism wins everytime but you are going to have to fight for it.
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redfish52
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:38pmThe Progressive Dem’s have something big planned…I can feel it and it feels like Big Union Thuggery…they need something to turbo boost the momentum they now have….they need violence that they hope will come from us the Conservative American….the true Patriots.
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Metallicat
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:25pmI have a word for Gregg Gutfelds banned world list. How about “Slam”? everyday someone slams someone else. its an overused word and used in the wrong context too many times. the GOP slams Obama,Obama slams the GOP back. Bob Costas slams the second amendment during Football game. Nancy Pelosi slams the GOP. Barney Frank slams his boyfriends butt. Conservative media slams the public with the word slam. Just please stop slamming everything. Use your college education and slam a dictionary for a new word,please?
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justangry
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 6:18pmOr perhaps a thesaurus to find a new word.
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k2weaver
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:20amR U SERIOUS??? be offend by their offensiveness. be MORE outrageous. (slam????) are you kidding. HOW ABOUT SIMPLE…..FREEDOM. fight progressivism!!!
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macpappy
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:13pmWe need a third party option.
May I nominate Allen West and Sarah Palin for the first team. Screw you liberal, full steam ahead.
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lisalake
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:34pmNot a chance. Need ALL NEW FACES.
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SimpleTruths
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:41pmNow that would be funny – West and Palin. Please go right ahead with that pair…pair of Jokers that is.
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gbfreak
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:48pmAgreed…3rd party…Time to disband the irelevant GOP RINOS!!!
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neverending
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:52pm@LISALAKE – amen to that one. All new faces and proven successes and no baggage.
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Detesman
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:57pmI like a ticket of West and Palin, I think we need someone to say it like it is and not back down. Look how well Mitt did in the first debate, he shifted gears and started playing not to lose instead of playing to win and it cost him.
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Moonbeamsun
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 5:11pmPlease run West and Palin 2016. Please! That would guarantee us, the Dems a win in 2016!
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The Third Archon
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 6:17pmOh I’d LOVE to see West and Palin “debating.” The 2008 election was comedy GOLD just because of Palin–imagine what throwing that goosestepping McCarthy in the mix would do! We might have to be careful–people could literally DIE from laughter with that mixture.
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flipper1073
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 7:16pmYou just Keep telling Yourselves That
MOONBEAM an SIMPLETON
Sarah Palin an Allen West Scare The Crap Out
of Democrates, GOP Elites, an The Media.
Because they Speak their Minds
Without Regards to Political Correctness.
Who Else Calls Democrats what they ARE Now Communists ?
Who Else is Saying Washington DC Doesn’t have a TAX Problem.
They Have a SPENDING Problem !
Keep Telling Yourselves that Sarah Palin an Allen West would Lose.
an don’t Forget to say How dumb YOU think they are.
or how She Quit or He’s a War Criminal.
We’ve ALL Heard it a Thousand Times.
Thing is the Liberals an Progressives in Both Parties Tell
Everyone WHO they are the most Affraid of by Who They Attack
the MOST.
President Obama even did it last Year when Sarah had Her Bus Tour.
An on that Subject Sarah has a Bus Tour not Even A Canditate
an Obama an The GOP Canditates can’t get a word in the PRESS
Because Everyones Following Sarah Around.
Tell everyone again how She’s Irrelevant
She’s the ONLY Person in Either Party That Can FILL Stadiums of
People an Keep them Energized.
But Take Heart the GOP Elite Fear / Hate Sarah an Allen almost as much
as Liberals an the Media.
America Loves Sarah an Allen it’s only PROGRESSIVES that Hate Them.
an Think whatever you want we Outnumber You.
Obama was Reelected Because Conservatives weren’t Energized
(well that an Massive Voter Fraud) when you have No energy you Lose.
Sarah an Allen have that SPARK !
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k2weaver
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:14amFREE AMERICANS vs. PROGRESSIVES. its just that simple. …WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
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neverending
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:35am@FLIPPER1073 – Love Allen West and would be thrilled to see him on the ticket. Hopeful he will be back on 2014 – if there is still a country left.
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justangry
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:11pm“Thompson said the Republican problem is that the party has “failed at marketing,” ineffectively articulating its message of “personal freedoms and free markets.””
Well that’s a problem right there. The crop of Republicans we have now LOVE corporate welfare and hate personal freedom. Doc Thompson sounds like a dumbass that has no clue how the Republicans are voting these days.
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resme
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:25pmModern day Whig Party
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Fubared
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 6:31pmSpeaking of wigs, how is Paul’s/Johnson today?
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:10pmThe Conservative – RINO war has begun.
Game freaking on.
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stopprintn
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:27pmTroops, Man your keyboards!
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justangry
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:39pmI don’t think we can get rid of them until folks like you and I can find some middle ground. We have about 3 1/2 years to figure it out because you know the establishment is going to split the conservative vote again and our voices within the party have been silenced.
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rochrealtor
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:06pmThe establishment lost two (2) elections[...] one against a nobody… and one against an absolute failure! If we are going to blame the man at the top…shouldn’t we “Blame the man at the Top!” Adios GOP top guns you lose!
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neverending
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:37amThink we need to blame the ignorant voters.
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Canada_Goose
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:03pmI’ve said it many times on this site, there is no better advocate for electing liberals, progressives, and Democrats than FNC and the conservative talk radio.
They all supported Mr. Akin and Mr. Murdoch, not to mention Christine O’Donnell, Sharron Angle, Carl Paladino, Alan West, Rick Santorum, Michelle Bachmann etc. etc. etc.
They somehow believe, in their twisted view of reality, that the American public agrees with their extremist views and they have a huge platform to rail against politicians who don’t tow the line.
I’ve yet to see any Republican stand up to Mr. Limbaugh.
BTW Mr. Rove is not a conservative commentator he is an active player in the election having $300M at his disposal to support GOP candidates. Just because FNC never discloses this fact doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:14pmGo take a flying leap you pink-O commie. Yea, we’re extreme because we want babies to get a chance to live but your empty-suit messiah wants to kill off children who happen to survive their abortionists murderous hands.
The only freaking good thing about Canada is hockey and you freaking morons are screwing that up!
Get bent loser.
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Moonbeamsun
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:50pmI cannot believe that it’s taken the right wing a MONTH to come to a conclusion that the the Dems came to before the election. We were saying to you that your polling was off and that Fox was spinning the stories. It was, sorry to say, actually very entertaining. So, when we see Romney SHOCKED and voters SHOCKED by the results, we were SHOCKED. Face it, you were LIED to. The problem with the GOP is that they are too scared of the likes of Limbaugh, who spews his hatred all over the radio, because they don’t want to alienate their supporters. Well that came back to bite them and the right wing voters. Maybe next time you won’t be fooled by the BIG crowds at rallies and all those POSTERS and all those BUMPER STICKERS.
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grayling646
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 5:16pmI can’t buy your argument. First, consider the small percentage of Americans who even bother to watch the news or listen to the radio shows (left or right). Couple that with the fact that the left has most of the media (including Google and Facebook), Hollywood and most bureaucrats in their back pocket. Your left wing machine has a much broader uninformed audience than does the right. Hence, our political make up today.
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happygranny
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 10:45amThere is nothing extremist in supporting people who are for smaller government, balanced budgets, less regulations and guaranteed freedom for its people. I would vote for Allen, Bachman, Palin or any of the conservative, constitutional and Christian candidates. Down with the GOP as it is today, time to get rid of Boehner who after 11 terms in the House still can’t figure out what the people want.
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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 3:50pmWhat relationship? And what ‘conservative media’? There is Alinsky media on one side and Truth on the other. Comparing straight talk with Alinsky media as “conservative” does not compute.
There is “the Constitution” and those that do not like the Constitution as far as it is an impediment to State control. The latter are called progressives.
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mames
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:06pmNo they are traitors who fail to use the amendment process and instead use an illegal “vote” to do things the constitution says they cannot. How do we handle traitors? The answer is our solution. Not being at all humorous.
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Moonbeamsun
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:52pmI have to admit that it was fun watching Rove implode on Fox “News” election night. I loved it so much that I go watch the clips on YouTube when feel a bit down. It’s the gift that keeps on giving. Suckered!
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flipper1073
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 7:48pmMOONBEAM
what makes you think Carl Rove is a Conservative ?
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Moonbeamsun
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 8:47pmflipper1073 – His name is “Karl” btw. Well, that might have something to do with the fact that he ran the SuperPac for Romney.
Here, this might help you:
http://www.newshounds.us/karl_rove_s_terrible_2012_election_11082012
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flipper1073
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:29amSorry, I have a cousin named Carl
My question still stands. Because he was Connected to Mitt Romney
Does Not make Him a Conservative in Fact makes him more of a
Moderate / Progressive.
An I Hate Moderates (Dumbass, Middle of the Road, Fence Sitters)
I Respect Liberals more than Moderates at Least They have an Opinion.
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flipper1073
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:42amI Dont DO links
been on here almost since the begining
never posted a link or went on one.
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Wigan
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 3:32pmI made the mistake this year in thinking that the presidents dismal job performance from an economic standpoint would make it very difficult for him to win. I underestimated how bad state run media is now, with outright false stories being reported across large media outlets being received and believed by legions of Obama voters. I was horribly surprised how well quid pro quo politics works now, or how identity politics trumps objective measures of job performance. I saw similar errors in reasoning in Morris and Rove. The mistake here was overestimating the intelligence of the American voter. Becks more-on trivia and Howard Stern’s man on the street interviews rather than being laughable anomalies apparently were statistically significant samplings of the Obama voter base.
I suppose this is what you get when you leave education up to teachers union members, or you lack a media presence to undercut and undermine the state run media. Republicans face a huge task in re-educating a largely ignorant and propaganda isolated public.
It is all very discouraging. Have yourself a Merry little Cliffmas…
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mames
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:02pmall activity and money spent on areas outside of the restriction of the enumerations is lawlessness and this includes government schools. We sent our son to a private Lutheran system because of the corruption of the government system. One way to fight this battle is to constantly declare its illegality and fight them at every local meeting. this RINO talk of vouchers and “reform” are also in support of an illegal system. We must phase out all social spending, SS, Medicare/cade, govt schools etc..
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neverending
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:51pm@WIGAN – So well put and all so true. I think Morris and Rove and many of us really had no idea how many people there would be that would actually stay home I guess because their country just wasn’t important to go to the polls and vote and the evangelicals – many of whom came right out and said there was no way they would vote for a Mormon and then last but not least were the Paulbots and Palinistas who also would not vote for Romney. Governor Romney was not my first choice either but once he became the nominee all of my family and friends rallied around him because as many talked about that was really truly our last chance to try to get our country back and I find it absolutely appalling that people would put their stubborness before this country. Our kids and grandkids are going to pay an even bigger price then we will and they will never know the America we have known. God help us all.
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Doctor Bulldog
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 3:32pmWhen will the Republican establishment ever learn? It wasn’t the Conservatives or the Right Wing Media hosts who lost the election, it was the Republican establishment. In 2008, they tried to blame Sarah Palin. Idiots! It kind of reminds me of that old saying about whenever you point a finger at someone else, there are three fingers pointing back at you…
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naughtycal
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 3:52pmWhen the votes of the takers out number the votes of the makers……The takers will always win. We at the point where ALL DEMOCRACY/EVEN A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC WILL DIE.
The greatest country every established has a cancer spreading through out it’s poulation…..a cancer that is sucking the life out of America like a tick/flea invested dog. American who are finanacially set might want to consider opting out of America taking investing their money here is tanamount to investing in ENRON part 2.
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Jazaan
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:02pmI must agree with you, I even think that media such as talk radio will become even more popular, however I think that some people like ann coulter did and is doing more damage to the conservative message than is fully aparrent. Did you see her on Hannity last night?
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Metallicat
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 3:32pmI wonder if Google banned that video in the top right column because that girls butt in those jeans makes men cry?
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Detesman
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 5:00pmIt reminds me of the lyrics to a song-”begging for a piece of that bubble!”
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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 3:29pmJay Carney, Americans “First Used Car Salesmen” is a great source of news. Just ask anybody….
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DougHuffman
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 3:26pmWhich conservative media is this?
Rush SLimbaugh is a progressive capitalist idiot that thinks capitalism is essentially conservative. (Rusty Limbaugh died with his caller abortions, oxycontin and Million$$ contract.) Neil Boortz, the libertarian progressive? He retired today, coincidentally NOT. My local news-talk jocks, hah, they’re gone in sixty seconds after dissing their masters.
While tied to marketeering masters, I doubt any talking-head can be conservative. Only for my lack of familiarity must I concede that Michael Savage may be conservative.
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TOMSERVO
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 3:40pmHahahaha! yes Rush Limbaugh is a total “progressive” (not that you know what that word means anyway). Keep telling yourself that
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grayling646
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:08pmFYI Dough, Boortz announced his retirement on June 4th. It wasn’t a spur of the moment thing as you falsely infer.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:09pmI see the old kook’s home has the internet now. How nice.
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DougHuffman
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 4:11pmTell us what YOU, TomBOT, would have (political) progressive mean.
To me, at least, it means belief that man is essentially good, and can be improved. Contrasted with conservative belief that power corrupts the best of men requiring law to keep evil in check.
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Moonbeamsun
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 5:10pmAmens! I wish the rest of the right wingers could see this. Blinkered and lied to by their own kind. Sad. Only if you lived in the right wing world would you have thought that Romney was going to win this election. We, over here on the sane side, saw the implosion happening. The polls were so wrong it wasn’t funny. The Unskewered guy and Rasmussen. It was insane, but I have to say that Rove’s implosion election night on Fox “News” is very entertaining.
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 3:23pmJimmy Crack Corn…………….
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Metallicat
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 3:22pmConservative media? we have one? FOX News is even shifting to the left. Now there is no one I trust in the MSM.
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TOMSERVO
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 3:39pmOr, just maybe, the “conservative media” that has been defined by Fox News and right-wing blogs like this one is just a giant misinformation machine. When the bold predictions of the machine’s greatest prognosticators turned out to be unequivocably wrong, most sane people (including the very bright masterminds of the machine itself) realized that going farther into the deep end is not a viable way to achieve credibility.
Consumers of news have learned that there is a limit to how “homerish” the broadcast can be. And the people who just want to hear the things they want to hear? Well they log on to The Blaze.
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Moonbeamsun
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 5:19pm@TOMSERVO – Amen! But they’ll never get it. They were so royally LIED to and it’s taken them a MONTH to realize this and only because someone wrote a story about it. One of “their” someones. The Evil MSM has been talking about this since before the election. You know, those polls that were so not right and they would have realized it if they listened to someone outside of the internal polling being done. Stuff like “legitimate rape” etc. made a BIG impact. The 47% probably cost Romney the election. We owe a big debt to Mother Jones for exposing him. The GOP and Dem campaign managers had a little pow wow a day or so ago and they admitted that they were totally outclassed, what with ORCA not working and them not making use of social media effectively. The GOP is archaic.
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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 3:21pmWhat?
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IAMMADDOG
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 3:21pmAwwwwwwww horse crap!! I think they are all working together now.
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