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Marijuana Is Now Legal in Washington State — Here’s What You Need to Know

SEATTLE, WASHINGTON – DECEMBER 6: A Seattle resident takes marijuana from a plastic bag shortly after a law legalizing the recreational use of marijuana took effect on December 6, 2012 in Seattle, Washington. Voters approved an initiative to decriminalize the recreational use of marijuana making it one of the first states to do so. (Credit: Getty Images)
SEATTLE (TheBlaze/AP) — Marijuana became legal under Washington state law Thursday. So, bong hits and funny brownies for everybody?
Not quite. Pot legalization in the Evergreen State has raised many questions, some that likely won’t be answered for a while. Here’s a quick primer on the implications for now:
WHO CAN USE MARIJUANA?
Adults over the age of 21 can possess up to an ounce.
WHERE CAN PEOPLE BUY IT?
You can have it, but for now it remains illegal to sell pot. Initiative 502, the measure state voters approved last month, gives the state a year to come up with a system of state-licensed growers, processors and retail stores.
CAN PEOPLE LIGHT UP IN PUBLIC, SAY, UNDER THE SEATTLE SPACE NEEDLE?
Technically, no. The new state law forbids smoking in public. People who do face a fine, as do people who openly drink alcohol in public. However, that didn’t stop people from smoking joints under the Space Needle on Thursday, when the new law took effect. For now, Seattle police say they won’t be writing tickets to those folks. They generally ignored small marijuana use even before Thursday, arguing they had bigger crimes to fight.
WILL POT BE TAXED?
Yes, under Washington’s new law, analysts figure a legal pot market could reap hundreds of millions of dollars a year in new taxes for schools, health care and other things.
WHAT IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GOING TO DO?
That’s the question state officials want answered in Washington and Colorado, where marijuana becomes legal next month. So far, the Justice Department has reiterated that marijuana remains illegal under federal law, but Uncle Sam’s lawyers have yet to specifically respond to the new pot laws in those two states. So, lighting up could still technically get you in trouble with the feds.
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ARMED AND READY
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:41amHere is the U.S. Govt. patent for cannabis http://uspatent6630507.com/
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:31amHenry Ford’s first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONSTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, ‘grown from the soil,’ had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941. http://www.illuminati-news.com/marijuana-conspiracy.htm
Rudolf Diesel, the inventor of the diesel engine, designed it to run on vegetable and seed oils like hemp; he actually ran the thing on peanut oil for the 1900 World’s Fair. Henry Ford used hemp to not only construct cars but also fuel them.
As an alternative to methanol, hemp has at least one glowing report: the plant produces up to four times more cellulose per acre than trees. And a hemp crop grows a little quicker than a forest.
As for an alternative to petroleum… Hemp grows like mad from border to border in America; so shortages are unlikely. And, unlike petrol, unless we run out of soil, hemp is renewable.
Growing and harvesting the stuff has much less environmental impact than procuring oil.
Hemp fuel is biodegradable; so oil spills become fertilizer not eco-catastrophes.
Hemp fuel does not contribute to sulfur dioxide air poisoning.
Other noxious emissions like carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons are radically slashed by using “biodiesel. Hemp fuel is nontoxic and only a mild skin irritant; anybody who,s ever cleaned out an old carburetor with gasoline can confirm the same is not t
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:35amGrowing hemp for fuel would be a tremendous boon for American farmers and the agricultural industry, as opposed to people like, say, the Bush family.
And that,s why hemp might not go anywhere as a fuel alternative. Oil interests are big and donate likewise to politicians, and selling a man on an idea that will cost him more than he,ll benefit requires an amazingly skilled orator — or a gun. Unfortunately, unless you,re the federal government, gunpoint conversions are usually illegal. Ergo, PR is about the best bet right now.
There are many people working hard on this front, including the Hemp Car and its intrepid crew. Currently ginning up for a trans-America evangelism tour, the Hemp Car plans to spread the good word of hemp-fuel viability at stops in both the U.S. and Canada.
For whatever good it will do, they should make sure to stop by Washington, D.C., and have a word with President George W. Bush. The current oil crisis and our nation,s dependency on sometimes-persnickety foreign sources might find the new chief executive with an open mind to fuel sources other than Texas tea — regardless of his oily bank accounts. And, while salvaging his dad’s legacy is not Goal 1 for Dubya, it might also help him look more forward thinking in terms of energy policy and the environment.
Of course, hemp fuel may never take off. It might dry up like all those hemp crops left unattended after the feds banned their cultivation in the 1930s.
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black9897
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 10:01amNow the rest of the states to follow.
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turkey13
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 11:15amWell shucks – here goes another state that goes on my no fly list, that are states to dangerous to visit. I’v worked hard to live to be 65 years old and I don’t want to go because of some stoneed driver weaving into my lane and having a headon wreck. Most likely the stone head won’t have any insurence. I think insurence companys will at some point refuse to honor the policys like they balk on the drunks now.
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 11:20amWhy BLACK9897? So we can all be stoners? I agree with you..let the states decide their fates…but please..don’t insult my intelligence by telling me there’s no price to pay for heavy cannabis use. Of course you’ll cite “alcohol and prohibition”. Not quite the same thing.
Here’s why…stoners have bought into the “it’s harmless” meme the dope lobby has created. Heavy alcohol use we know causes harm in many ways. But a recent study out of New Zealand determined that heavy cannabis use from an earlier age PERMANENTLY affects memory, IQ and attention span. What are we hearing already from the stoner lobby? Why not let children start using it? Oh for medical purpsoses only of course…riiiiight. Now..think of a married couple smoking cannabis regularly in the home with children..again you’ll say..”hey there are households where both parents drink”. But these aren’t defenses of cannabis use. these are misdirections. Cannabis smoke wafts around the room, the smell is pervasive the culture damaging. This isn’t your “Cheech and Chong” weed anymore. This is much more potent and more noxious.
I live in southern california and it’s not unusual anymore to be nearly nauseated by the smell of an individual next to you who’s been using cannabis heavily. They stink and they’re stupid.
Trust me…you’re opening a Pandora’s box that should never have been opened.
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black9897
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:39pm@AVENGERK
I don’t think that anyone should do drugs, in fact, I’ve never done a drug in my life…I’ve never even smoked. However, neither you nor I have the right to tell someone else they can’t do them. Do you honestly think if it’s legal there will be sudden mass use of pot?
Yes, even though pot is basically harmless even it can be harmful. Heavy use can go for anything; it’s up to everyone to determine how far they are willing to go. Early age? I would never recommend children to use ANY drug and they shouldn’t (and wouldn’t) be allowed to.
I think it is immoral for a police officer to violently arrest someone for not violating anyone’s rights, including growing, selling and using pot. I think we should stand up for all freedoms because they are all tied together. Do I want people to smoke it? No. In a perfect world I’d rather no one do drugs and they be illegal. I have never understood people’s (mainly teens) obsession with drinking (especially getting drunk) and doing drugs. I’ve personally never had even the slightest of thought to do drugs or get drunk. However, we live in a free society where people can do things they want as long as they do not violate others rights. Risks comes with freedom.
Due to drugs being illegal there is so much violence, murder and corruption. In fact, having things like drugs, prostitution illegal is causing most of the problems we have. In order to stop it we must get them out of the b
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black9897
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:01pmOops this was left out
*….Out of the black market.
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:23pmummmm…BLACK98….in california alone since medical marijuana was passed heavy use of cannibis has spiked. So yes…it appears in this country at least that the more you relaxed the laws get, the heavier the use.
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black9897
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:45pm@AVENGERK
That’s assuming since it rose in one state it will rise in others. Is that just those who use it for medical reasons or all together? Even IF it does increase for non-medical use…so what? I won’t be using, it will be treated like alcohol (can’t abuse it to the point you endanger others, which is difficult to do in the first place) and businesses will still require their employees to be drug free. Most everyone who didn’t use it before will still stay away and while some MIGHT try it I highly doubt they will become a regular user.
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betterpart
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:51amIt would be very amusing to see what type of exuses the historically dunced up lefty-libs give when busted for driving when weeded-out. lolol….
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sillyfreshness
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:11amAgain, the federal government is going to impose its will upon the states. Even though a referendum is about as democratic as you can get, the feds don’t see it that way. It’s a case of the federal government going to bully the states and what’s more surprising is this president we have used to smoke it and hung out with people that smoked it. His black constituents are known for being big pot users, yet this president is going to double down on keeping it illegal. So that tells me either this Obama is a total fraud or he is being controlled by some puppet masters. I’m almost leaning that he is being told “you are going to still keep pot illegal” and the president says “yes sir.”
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OffTheLows
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:20amI believe the vote on this initiative included majorities in 7 counties in WA state that voted for Romney, so it doesn’t quite match the stereotype of ideology. Personally, I voted Romney and voted for legalized weed. You figure 20% of Mexican drug gang revenues originate from marijuana smuggling into America, let alone local gangs, then the money spent enforcing a law that’s about equal to enforcing an alcohol prohibition. Instead of spending the money enforcing this “crime” and the gang activity that surrounds it, make money off of the drug. Hopefully usage won’t have a big spike long term. It would surprise me as most companies still test for drugs and potentially losing a job was always a bigger consequence than a misdemeanor marijuana offense.
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:02amOh, stop it. You are making way too much sense. Why if Republicans stopped to think about it like this, well, we might not have the overpowering demise of freedoms in this country that the great war on drugs has brought us.
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tromso
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:16pmI live in Pierce County, (Tacoma) am 53 years old, and am a staunch suburban conservative. I haven’t smoked pot for about thirty years, and really don’t plan on taking it up. However, as a young man, I did smoke casually, and it didn’t lead to anything other than a pickup hoop game in the driveway, or perhaps throwing the frisbee down at Point Defiance. The amount of money thrown at a non-existant problem is astounding, entire public sector careers and industry depend on this stupid “war on drugs”.
I did vote in favor of legalization, because it’s time to stop pretending.
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usedCZARsalesman
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:10pmOFF, I also voted for BOTH Romney and the legalization of pot. To be honest, I am as strict a conservative as you get (no kidding) and I smoke DAILY and have for over 10 years. During the time I was smoking daily, I graduated HS with a 4.0 and a 33 on my ACTs, attended the University of Michigan School of Engineering on scholarship and played football for the Wolverines. I have attended church weekly and am a very productive member of society, heck, I’ve never even had a traffic ticket my entire life. The only time in the past 10 years I didn’t smoke daily was during my 4 years in the Army, serving in Iraq twice. This argument is ignorant and pathetic, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with pot and if ANYTHING should be made illegal (which nothing really should, substance wise) it’s cigs and liquor
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yazoo
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:55amEfforts to halt the sell of illigal weed in Wash. will continue because the focus of those trying to sell it for a big profit will turn toward those under the age of 21.It will be against the law to aide and abet so those 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15 ,14, and younger will become the new custamers of the Pushers.But be of good cheer because the authorities will be there to stop that. Right?
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Raging_Waters
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:32am@YAZOO
Unfortunately, young children and teenagers already have access to the abundant smuggling of whacky tabacky. So why let these weed dealers run rampant while making tax-free money? Treat it like alcohol and free up space in taxpayer-funded prisons. It makes sense to me.
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TRILO
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:29amKids have unlimited access to pot and other illegal drugs not to mention the prescription drugs that are prescribed to kids like candy from doctors and psychiatrists who are in the pockets of the pharmaceutical industry and who would rather give a patient a pill to pop than solve the underlying problem. My son is in high school. He can get any drug of his choice far easier than a six pack of beer. Why would making it regulated like alcohol make it easier to get? You make no sense.
I work in a juvenile detention facility, rarely do any of the kids come in drunk, most test positive for THC (pot). The sellers of alcoholic beverages in my community and state are very careful of who they sell alcoholic beverages to. It costs a lot of money, time and effort when caught selling to a minor. Plus with repeated offenses you loose your business and alcohol license.
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:33amOnce again, beating the war drums of doom.
Actually, the participation of minors will be no different than that of beer, wine, or destilled spirits.
You don’t see bootleggers on the corner selling beer to minors do you?
This is an issue that the Republicans had better come to grips with, if they are to remain a player in the current political landscape.
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tucsondon
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:54amI’m sure the Feds will jump in and make a big stink about this just like they did when Arizona tried to enforce the Federal immigration laws with SB 1070. Ha!
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TrUe.AmEriCaN
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:45amTotal fools! Soon these same dimwits will be wondering what made the crime rate, accident rate, death all rise so darn fast, yet could not have anything to do with the legalization of pot, no sir!
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Kupo
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:52amThe only crimes that potheads really commit are in the actual buying, selling, and use of marijuana. Legalizing it is not going to make the crime rate go up.
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betterpart
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:53amAgree. People oftend do really stupid things when stoned that they ordinarily wouldn’t do when not.
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Kupo
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:02amRhetorical nonsense.
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:51amTo see the fool you may have to look in the mirror.
In 1907, when Georgia and Oklahoma made the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors illegal state wide, the homicide rate in the United States was 1 person per 100,000 per year.
Before the end of the decade, 13 states plus Alaska, Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia had gone dry. By 1919–when the 18th amendment was passed, making alcohol use illegal nationwide–the homicide rate had grown to 8 per 100,000. The murder rate climbed steadily until it peaked at 10 per 100,000 around 1933, when our nation admitted its mistake, and repealed the 18th amendment. By 1943 the homicide rate had drastically shrunk to 5 per 100,000 and stayed near that level until 1964 when the United States made the same mistake all over again.In December of 1964, having been ratified by 40 countries, the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs 1961 went into effect restricting narcotic drug use to medical and scientific purposes. It also internationally banned narcotic drug trade outside of government monopolies.History was about to repeat itself. From 1964 to 1970 in the United States, the number of state prisoners incarcerated for drug offenses more than doubled from 3,079 to 6,596 (it was 90,000 in 1989) [9], and the new concentration on enforcing victimless crimes caused the homicide rate to skyrocket. Between 1964 and 1970 the homicide rate doubled from 5 per 100,000 to 10 per 100,000, where it
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:53amContinued:
has remained, with minor fluctuations, until today. Lyndon Johnson had declared war on drugs, to be followed by Richard Nixon declaring War on Drugs in 1969, Ronald Reagan declaring War on Drugs in 1982, and George Bush declaring War on Drugs in 1989.
At the turn of the century, both heroin and aspirin were legally available and sold for approximately the same amount. Today aspirin can be purchased at the corner drug store for 20 cents per gram; heroin costs $50 per gram.
The price of heroin rose drastically after it was made illegal due to the dangers involved in its sale. Dealers are willing to kill each other for profits obtained from such a lucrative market; junkies are willing to rob and kill for money to support their habit–money, if drugs were legal and cheap, that they could easily obtain by working at McDonald’s.
You and I, through high crime rates caused by the War on Drugs and high tax rates used to support the War on Drugs, pay the price.
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SoNick
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 11:15amwould you care to provide statistics for this supposed hike in crime rates? This is a typical knee jerk uninformed point of view. There are numerous examples of what happens when you decriminalize marijuana. A simple Google search will help you find comparative studies of the crime rates in the US and the Netherlands for example. Guess which country has more rapes, firearms deaths, violent crimes etc…
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 11:25amSONIK…please…the Dutch are not happy with the drug laws in the Netherlands. It hasn’t removed the criminal aspect from the drug trade at all. All it’s done is enable greater drug use and it’s consequences.
Putting a suit and tie on it in states like California hasn’t worked either. The deluge of medical marijuana clinics throughout the state are hiding their profits and not paying taxes. The licenses are handed out like candy unless of course there’s been an epidemic of youth in debilitating pain recently. You can put lipstick on a pig as it were……
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SoNick
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 11:33am@AvengerK:
Way to dodge the question there, buddy. True.American seems to believe that the crime rate will go up in the US if weed is legalized. I mereley suggested you compare the crime rate of the Netherlands and that of the US. Get back to me once you’ve done your homework.
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:06pmtell me SONICK..how am I dodging the question by telling you that the relaxed drug laws in the Netherlands didn’t remove the crime element from the drug industry there? All it succeeded in doing is making it easire for users and addicts to get their narcotic of choice. Comparing a tiny homogenous nation like the Netherlands with a populous and diverse society like the US on crime statistics is like comparing you with Einstein. You’re talking about two very differrent things. Perhaps it’s your dope use is clouding your mind right now?
This is from a Dutch government official:
“the main problem with the current policy was that marijuana production had led to the creation of an expansive black market. No one knows the exact value of Dutch cannabis exports, Van Der Seur said, but they are thought to be greater than the country’s annual flower exports, which are worth $6.6 billion.
“We now function as a supplier of drugs for the rest of Europe,” he said. “We never intended to become one of the major exporters of cannabis to the world.”
Additionally, almost all of the hashish sold in the coffee shops is imported, illegally, from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Lebanon and Morocco..[...]. ”
Don’t insult my intelligence SONICK.
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Keatonc33
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:50pmCrime rate? death rate? you’ve never been high have you? The sales of burritos and Madden or Halo might go up. but thats about all youd need to worry about.
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girlnurse
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:45amJust because abortion is legal…doesn’t mean I’m going to get one!
Everybody needs to do the right thing by God, others, and yourself with or without the governments blessing! The government sure as H&** is NOT any kind of indicator of what is right and wrong! Everybody use your own judgement. If I wanted to smoke weed and I thought (for whatever reason) it was the right thing for me to do at the time…I would do it..but I don’t so I wont.
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so3
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:40amHundreds of millions of dollars in tax a year? ummm…yeah…which is why people will still grow pot and sell it for their own profits versus getting involved in the whole system…can;t you idiots realize that it’s not about being PART of the system that appeals to potheads? It’s the iconoclastic nature of illegal drug use…and that won’t stop…. I love it, whine and complain about no money, no jobs, high taxes, high food costs and what do you morons do???? Make pot legal and swear the taxes on it will save the planet…no, fools…all you wanted is your little vice to be legitimized…idiots…
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Kupo
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:51amKind of like how people aren’t buying alcohol from the liquor and grocery stores anymore and instead buying it off the black market, right?
Oh, wait…
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CobraBill
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:50amMore proof people who resort to calling other people names. usually have nothing intelligent to say.
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:07amHa, and you folks call pot heads stupid. My man that may be the stupidest comment on this blog.
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ChipBlood
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 10:47amKinda like how legalized food can be grown and there’s a thriving black market for crops.
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usedCZARsalesman
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 11:44pmSO3…pot has replaced my entire PTSD cocktail from the army and practically saved my marriage because you the good it has done me. People like you are so closed minded and devoid of facts it makes me sick. Alcohol kills hundreds of thousands a year and destroys and equal amount of families…please find me ONE example of a THC related death. I’ll wait, buti won’t hold my breath
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Raging_Waters
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:14amIf you consider all the people locked up in prison for weed, being sustained by our tax dollars, it seems like it would free up a lot of prison space and save taxpayer money. So why not just regulate and tax it like alcohol and tobacco? Cut the drug dealers tax-free profits off. It makes sense to me. I don’t see everyone suddenly becoming a stoner, just as not everyone drinks alcohol or smokes tobacco. Teens get their hands on all these things either way, so why not just make it legal?
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Favored93
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:02amWOW AM I TORN HERE!!!
On the one hand as a former “pot head” I can speak of NOTHING good that came of those smoke filled years. It is a trap that we all would do well to stay away from. (The Bible tells us to ..”be sober minded…”)
That being said however so is nicotine and alcohol (I am currently trapped by my nicotine addiction).
Should the government be telling us what we do with our time, money and body (abortion is different in that there is another body/person involved)?
Why is pot illegal in the first place? What harm to the public is there?
I would have voted AGAINST pot use. The reason for that is because I know the danger in it is not the pot but in time and productive life lost. (like I said I am torn here) I can’t give my “OK” to what I know is wrong.
Also that being said what business does the govt. have telling me what I can and can’t do? But were does it stop? LSD? Cocaine?… Where is the line in the sand?
I am forced to agree with the pot heads on this one ONLY because I can’t see a difference between it and beer.
Our prisons are FILLED with pot heads that IMO should not be there.
However there is NOTHING good about Marijuana when used just for fun and like beer it can and will given time destroy your life!
Will this law do more harm then what is already there? I don’t know but I don’t like Govt. Legislating morality and I do see this as a morale issue….
Opinions welcomed…..
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Fubared
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:19pmFavored-
Well said. A whole lot less peeps in the prospective job search now. Boeing is right there; who will they hire when the time comes? Come on pot heads, toke up, I know lots of people laughing at you now more than ever… hide the doritos and spaggetios.
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CobraBill
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:43amReminds me of a Bob Dylan song, Rainy day woman
Well, they’ll stone you when you’re trying to be so good They’ll stone you just like they said they would
They’ll stone you when you’re tryna go home Then they’ll stone you when you’re there all alone
But I would not feel so all alone Everybody must get stoned
Well, they’ll stone you when you’re walkin’ along the streets They’ll stone you when you’re tryna keep your seat
They’ll stone you when you’re walkin’ on the floor They’ll stone you when you’re walkin’ to the door
But I would not feel so all alone Everybody must get stoned
They’ll stone you when you’re at the breakfast table They’ll stone you when you are young and able
They’ll stone you when you’re tryna make a buck They’ll stone you and then they’ll say, “Good luck”
Tell ya what, I would not feel so all alone Everybody must get stoned
Well, they’ll stone you and say that it’s the end Then they’ll stone you and then they’ll come back again They’ll stone you when you’re riding in your car They’ll stone you when you’re playing your guitar
Yes but I would not feel so all alone Everybody must get stoned, alright
Well, they’ll stone you when you walk all alone They’ll stone you when you are walkin’ home
They’ll stone you and then say they all are brave They’ll stone you when you’re set down in your grave
But I would not feel so all alone Everybody must get stoned
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jettson
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:39amRainy day woman has nothing to do with drugs.
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:10amMan, did you misunderstand that song.
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Eastinfection
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 10:08amDylan claims the song isn’t about pot, yet he freely admits he was “stoned” during the entire recording of it. Considering the counter-culture he was part of at the time, it’s ridiculous to think he didn’t know that this song would be interpreted as an endorsement of marijuana.
My opinion is that it’s a double-entendre of sorts: People are going to give you crap (stone you) but you can live your life and still get high anyway (get stoned).
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 11:16amEast
I think it was a part of Dylans whole poetic stream, you know…Everybody gotta get stoned, Everybody serves somebody….kinda like its a burden to bear, especialy if you are different, or walk a different path.
I just know that Dylan was a little deeper than Dr. Hook, but not as easy to listen to at a party.
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Eastinfection
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 11:29amI agree MAC…
Dylan is the author of one of my favorite quotes, which actually defines my political philosophy somewhat….
“we all basically feel the same-
.. we just sell it from a different point of view”
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CobraBill
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:07pmI never heard of taking some crap was “being stoned.”
Learn something new every day.
Some reason I think I am not the only one who missed that boat!!
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Eastinfection
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:56pmRead it again COBRA….
taking someone’s crap…
“They’ll stone you when you’re tryna make a buck..
They’ll stone you and then they’ll say, “Good luck”….”
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Bernard Gui
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:12amHow will the “one ounce possession” rule be enforced?
How can police tell the difference between a driver smoking pot and a driver smoking tobacco?
How will additives, quality, purity, and strength be regulated?
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Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:21amThat is an Easy answer. Institute a Police State. Road blocks galore and new high tech testing equipment. I bet law enforcement can even wrangle a few tanks out of this.
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:22amHow will additives, quality, purity, and strength be regulated?
The free market will take care of that. Competition will ensure the quality of the product, and big government will regulate everything. There should be no additive to good cannibis.
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THXll38
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:26amYou can smell pot on a person very easy. My friend and I were driving down Broadway (Denver CO) and smelled pot smoke for like three blocks. When we turned off the main road, the smell went away. That’s when we realized the guy in front of us was smoking pot. Funny thing, he was a better driver than most people I encounter.
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KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:47amBernard Gui
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:48am
I have some questions….
How can so many Washingtonians be so stupid?
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Why do you have so many questions since:
1. you admitted down below that you don’t even live in Washington
2. you’re not gonna’ be smokin’ it anyway
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Kupo
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:54amHow can a cop tell the difference between someone drinking alcohol and someone drinking a soda?
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Favored93
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:24amHave you EVER met a DRUNK that said he/she is ok to drive? I used to be a pot head (4 years) and I thought I drove better then I did sober… (Thank God I did not get pulled over or kill any one)
It should be easy to find out if a person is high while driving trust me the cops will find a way. If you are high while driving the penalty should be the same as drunk (now that this is legal).
I don’t like this law because it smells funny to me. There is something wrong here and I can’t figure it out.
I actually agree with this law in my head but my heart tells me this is going to be a COLOSSAL mistake.
Like I said in my above post… the govt has no business telling me what I can and can’t do with my life.
But guys this is wrong some how! Not because this is now legal but I think that it is because it was ILLEGAL to start with.
Now what has happened is that whole states are saying this is ok.
THIS IS NOT OK!!!
Just like alcohol this will destroy lives! (And I understand that prohibition does not work but we are saying now is this is an ok thing to do…)
While it was illegal people knew that and did it anyway (I used to be one of them).
Now that this is legal we have said to our kids … that “this is ok and by the way you can by it at 7/11…”
Am I alone here?
This is wrong…I don’t like this move at all.
Opinions welcomed……
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Black Horse
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:32am“How will the “one ounce possession” rule be enforced?”
It only can be if you are stopped and searched for some reason and have pot on you. If you have an ounce or less and are 21 or over, you are good to go. Still to be determined is how can a smaller amount of pot being carried in a container not purchased from an authorized retailer be identified.
“How can police tell the difference between a driver smoking pot and a driver smoking tobacco?”
Unless you are obviously smoking a “bowl” (not a pipe) or are pulled over for speeding or something and they smell it, they can’t. If you are driving badly, there is a new blood-THC limit set. If your blood tests over that, you are gulity of DUI.
“How will additives, quality, purity, and strength be regulated?”
The Washington State Liquor Control Board was thrown out of the liquor business the election before this one. Stores now sell hard liquor. The WSLCB is tasked, under the new law, with setting up rules and licensing growers, packagers and sellers. They also have inspection authority and can test the crop of a grower. If the crop does not meet their standards, it must be destroyed.
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Locked
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 6:11pm“How can police tell the difference between a driver smoking pot and a driver smoking tobacco?”
Well, one of the drivers might spend 15 minutes stopped in the middle of a road, waiting for a squirrel to walk across the road, only to realize they had been looking at a pine cone the whole time…
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Bernard Gui
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:48amI have some questions….
Will Reservation smoke shops sell tax-free pot?
If you drive with an open bag of weed in your car, is that the same as having an open beer bottle?
How will this reduce drug cartel marijuana sales? All they have to do is undercut the commercial price.
How many state employees are going to be hired to run this boondoggle?
We’ve heard this “money for the schools” before…timber sales, Lotto, etc. Show me the money!
How can so many Washingtonians be so stupid?
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BetterInformed
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:11amHow will businesses handle liability issues, construction companies, airlines,etc. What effect will the usage have on insurance rates. Marijuana doesn’t manifest itself as alcohol usage. Drug tests will be required but won’t indicate the timing, frequency or degree of the usage. Passing this law is like giving your kid a bb gun. It’s all fun until someone gets their eye put out.
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:28amSo, a few eyes were put out but we stil have BB guns. Even if it is legal an employer may very well decide that you can not test positive to work there. For example, lets say you are a liberal and the doctor is treating your liberalisim by giving you happy pills, now even though you are under doctors orders to take the happy pills to cure your liberalisim your job as a taxi driver will not allow you to drive under the influence of your happy pills.
The world will not end, and the big war on drugs will be over when the rest of the country finally see the light.
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KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:36amBernard Gui
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:48am
How will this reduce drug cartel marijuana sales? All they have to do is undercut the commercial price.
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You don’t really understand what the definition of a cartel is then:
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“A cartel is a formal agreement among competing firms. It’s a formal organization where there is a small number of sellers and usually involve homogeneous products. Cartel members may agree on such matters as price fixing, total industry output, market shares, allocation of customers, allocation of territories, bid rigging, establishment of common sales agencies, and the division of profits or combination of these. The aim of such collusion (also called the cartel agreement) is to increase individual members’ profits by reducing competition.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel
See…..organized crime is always trying to figure out ways to reduce competition because that allows them to concentrate massive amounts of wealth into as few hands as possible….
That is exactly why organized crime abandons markets that are no longer exclusively controlled by them any longer….
This is exactly what happened when Budweiser became legal again back in 1933:
“Prohibition Is Over!”
Organized crime hates competition….
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Pontiaku
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:58am[“Prohibition Is Over!”]
What code are you using to condense the youtube url into a hyperlink?
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KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:14amPontiaku
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:58am
What code are you using to condense the youtube url into a hyperlink?
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It’s just the plain ol’ HTML hyperlink markup:
http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_links.asp
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BetterInformed
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:23amMac
We still have BB Guns but they used to be for kids to shot cans, cats and each other. But the laws have changed. Massachusetts law states:
Section 12B. No minor under the age of eighteen shall have an air rifle or so-called BB gun in his possession while in any place to which the public has a right of access unless he is accompanied by an adult or unless he is the holder of a sporting or hunting license and has on his person a permit from the chief of police of the town in which he resides granting him the right of such possession. No person shall discharge a BB shot, pellet or other object from an air rifle or so-called BB gun into, from or across any street, alley, public way or railroad or railway right of way, and no minor under the age of eighteen shall discharge a BB shot, pellet or other object from an air rifle or BB gun unless he is accompanied by an adult or is the holder of a sporting or hunting license. Whoever violates this section shall be punished by a fine of not more than one hundred dollars, and the air rifle or BB gun or other weapon shall be confiscated. Upon a conviction of a violation of this section the air rifle or BB gun or other weapon shall, by the written authority of the court, be forwarded to the colonel of the state police, who may dispose of said article in the same manner as prescribed in section ten.
Washington state is already having problems and the grey areas will need to be addressed.
BTW In your example “happy pills”
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:02amBetterInformed
Thank you for the local laws on BB guns, I get your point. The same rules, in spirit, apply to the legal weed, no kids, etc. etc.
Due to your reply, I feel, lets say…..Betterinformed.
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rafa2design
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:31amGuess someday people won’t find it strange when the states start legalizing heroin and crack cocaine too. I’m sure at first the argument will be for “medical reasons” at first.
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Keatonc33
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:40amComparing Marijuana to heroin or crack is like comparing a beer to lighter fluid.
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Bernard Gui
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:49amYeah. Lighter fluid tastes better.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:50am“Comparing Marijuana to heroin or crack is like comparing a beer to lighter fluid.”
Unless you’re chasing your beer with some firewater that’s just as toxic as lighter fluid eh?
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mrmarkjohnson
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:55amHeroin is not as different from marijuana as you might think. First, it did used to be prescribed medically. It was one of the main ingredients in virtually every cough syrup. It’s “medical” effects are identical to marijuana: it decreases pain. Smoking heroin or opium really isn’t much different than smoking marijuana.
The issues with heroin come from people injecting it. Most of those issues come from the dirty stuff that street dealers add to the heroin to increase their profit. Injecting pure heroin isn’t nearly as harmful as injecting the stuff you get on the street. I know a doctor, an MD, who’s regularly used heroin for 25 years and doesn’t have many side effects.
Just as medical marijuana was the starting point for legal recreational marijuana. Legal weed is the starting point for legalizing all drugs. You’re a fool if you think the drug legalization effort will stop with marijuana.
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1TrueOne55
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:55amThose drugs were legal before Prohibition but remained illegal because of the fear of drugged women being used as prostitutes to profit pimps and others not of American Citizenship during the years before Prohibition.
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SlaveToTruth
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:16amWow what a prejudiced little rant you had. I doubt there is a medical reason for crack cocaine, but as I understood it cocaine was still legal to use for Doctors. I thought eyes, ears, nose and throat specialists occasionally use it in their offices for local anesthesia.
And yes heroin should be legal at least for the terminally ill in severe pain. As I understand it heroin is a magnificent pain medication it just happens to be addictive. But if we deprive dying people in horrible pain any drug that will ease it, then we are truly stupid, incompassionate and possible evil.
As far as Marijuana goes, are you smarter than God. He made the hemp plant and the flowers of that plant can ease pain and stimulate appetite. But the wise and powerful seek to destroy what God has made. Fortunately for you, God loves simpletons. You hate that God made a flower that people like to ingest. It is the height of arrogance for any Christian to support the war on one of God’s flowers. Certainly using Marijuana has its downside, but that is a reason not to use it. It is not a reason to outlaw it. Ohh and if you use the gateway drug argument, I dare say alcohol and cigarettes both fit in that category as well. Virtually anyone who has ever done an illicit drug tried cigarettes and alcohol first. I personally would rather be around a pothead than a drunk or a cigarette smoker. Pot smokers are less obnoxious and their smoke smell better.
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universalphilos
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:29amAugusts 25, 1978: “Will you please give…any advice you can give me on marijuana smoking pertaining to me?”
“First, we should answer your question in this manner. That that is done in moderation would not hurt thy body. That that is done in above moderation shall damage the brain, the circulatory system, the spleen, the heart, the liver, the kidneys, the respiratory system….
“As it has been said before, a little wine is good for the stomach, a lot should damage the whole body. We should say unto you on the marijuana subject, that each time you bring forth unto your body this substance, it is not just man’s law you have broken, but God’s, who says, ‘THY SHALL BRING NOTHING INTO THY BODY THAT SHOULD BE HARMFUL UNTO IT.’
But you should also take into consideration the vultures that you are feeding by buying this substance at this time, the vultures which leech upon mankind. The time shall come when this of the marijuana shall be legalized. There shall always be those who shall abuse the use of this and pay for it, not only themselves, but their families; their children, their mothers, their fathers, their brothers, their sisters, and their friends shall pay the highest price.
At this time we shall say unto you, there are many who should use this money to farther build your Communist empires, where they are not allowed the worship of God. In this manner you shall feed the hand of the Anti-Christ.” http://www.angelfire.com/in4/aup_messiah/1978August25.audio.h
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SlaveToTruth
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:28amA couple of points. If marijuana was cheap and legal then over time I suspect most would eat instead of smoke it. Most of the truly harmful effects are due to inhaling a hot gas, that can never be good for the lungs.
But on a flip side God mandates incense in his temple. Why can’t marijuana be an incense for the temple of our body? I suppose you could argue that for tobacco too, but at least to me incense should smell good. Maybe pipe tobacco could be an incense since some of those do actually smell good when being smoked.
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powedj
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:23amI have read in the local papers here in Washington, when the state opens it’s pot stores, the price of an an ounce of marajuana will sell for $316.00. At that price, I don’t think I’ll be taking up the habit in theunforseen future.
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Keatonc33
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:30aman ounce is a lot though. and on the street an ounce goes for around 500 if its good weed. I mean it varies. but commonly an 8th of an ounce goes for 50 to 60 bucks. so ya know do the math and the pot heads are actually saving.
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Bernard Gui
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:51amAll the illegal sources have to do is undercut the legal price and enjoy business as usual.
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KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:10amBernard Gui
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:51am
All the illegal sources have to do is undercut the legal price and enjoy business as usual.
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Organized crime doesn’t want to face legalized competition though:
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“When repeal of Prohibition occurred in 1933, organized crime lost nearly all of its black market alcohol profits in most states (states still had the right to enforce their own laws concerning alcohol consumption) because of competition with low-priced alcohol sales at legal liquor stores.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States#Organized_crime
They might as well go legit too in the face of legalization…..
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SlaveToTruth
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:42amThat is the true problem with the huge taxes that the government thinks they will get. I knew someone who grew for themselves in the 90s. They estimated the price of production to be around 30 dollars an once. So unless the government price fixes marijuana I suspect you will see it eventually be around 50 to 100 dollars an once. If the government price fixes things, then I expect a lot of people will grow their own in a closet and they will get no taxes at all.
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:22amA little info to clear the issue:
Legal weed will be bought from citizens permitted to grow. This weed will be awesome, around 20% or higher in THC content. Proper grown, hydrophoic weed of a known strain, say like White Widow, will sell for $20 a gram on the streets from a local dealer….that is $560 an ounce, or about $9000. a pound. Any person using for medical reason will only buy high THC weed, therefore legal weed. In Calf. you don’t find many folks walking around with ditch weed in thier pockets.
Also, since legal weed will all be sensemillia, no seeds, an ounce is a LOT of this weed.
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SlaveToTruth
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 11:20am@ Macpappy I don’t think you understand. Weed is so expensive because it is illegal. Unless the government does price fixing, over time the price should drop dramatically. The weed I was talking about was grown indoors and hydro and mostly a strain know as hash plant. So if legalized I expect the cost of production to be very low. If your costs are low, you will lower your price to get market share from the higher priced competitor. 500 dollar weed is artificial. In the 70s you could get an ounce for around 20. I suspect in a few years in the legalized states an ounce will sell for 100 or under, but 500 is ridiculous when the cost of production is so low. My guess is the government will want to tax maybe 100 an ounce. So most people with a spare closet will just grow their own for a cost of maybe 50 an ounce and avoid the overpriced stuff. It this happens look to the government to outlaw growers for personal use.
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:08pmSlaveToTruth
The 20. lids you bought in the 70s were of a THC content of around 4 to 6%, todays hydro is closer to 20 than 15%. At coffee houses in Amsterdam quality weed, which is legal in every way cost around $17. a gram.
I understand what you are saying, it just is not the case. Example: You can buy a blended, unaged scotch for around $10. a liter. However, a liter of 15 year old single malt will run you $75.00
Legal weed will have to be manufactered in registered grow spots, they will be regulated to death to get all the money in fees that they can. The cost of production will go up, not down. Therefore the cost of the high grade cannibis will be about $15. a gram. Look, the market is set already, inverstor from places like Amsterdam, Holland, The Neds and all those cats already know exactly what it cost and what to charge.
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Keatonc33
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:22amOther than getting high there are literally thousands of topical uses for marijuana and hemp. ranging from medical purposes, to inexpensive clothing, paper, fuel, plastic alternatives, building materials, it has even been proven to halt the growth of some cancers. why this is illegal is so far beyond me.
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Bernard Gui
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:58amIt can also fuel inter-planetary space ships, cure male-pattern baldness, substitute for ball point pen ink, absorb ten times its weight in stomach acid or cat urine in kitty litter (both of which improve flavor and mellowness), be used to make hula skirts and cello bow ****, stuff teddy bears, sanitize septic tanks, make beach volleyball nets, and improve physical fitness…”I’d walk a mile for a Cannabis.”
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:20amThe reason it is illegal is because during the 1920s lumber was our major industry, followed closely by Oil. Manufactering was yet to be born. Hemp provided more lumber per acre than did trees, plus it matured in months where as trees matured in 60 years or more. Henery Ford was planning on fueling his mass produced automobile with a hemp biofuel he had patented. The lumber industry along with the Petrochemical industry lobbied to have hemp banned because it contained cannibis which had been deemed a drug in a middle eastern summit to regulate the Poppy and Heroin.
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Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:26amMarijuana can damage the cells in the bronchial passages which protect the body against inhaled microorganisms. It is a general “immunosuppressant.” That means even used for medical purposes it can lower your immunity and cause more problems than it treats. That means Marijuana use can accelerate the progression of HIV to full-blown AIDS!
Pulmonary infections, chronic bronchitis,emphysema and respiratory cancer are not harmless. Legalize it.Regulate it. Even Tax it. Do not lie about it or we will have a nation of dumb,sick, ill informed youth thinking they are smoking a “Harmless” plant.
And Don’t buy the lie about revenue. My state was told that about the lottery.We have raised taxes 5 times since then.
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SlaveToTruth
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:49am@ Mr. Bojangels That is why over time, I think people will eat instead of smoke it. I suspect that is what God intended for those flowers. But are your complaints as true when people vaporize it instead of smoke it. They heat the material but don’t burn it leaving a majority of the plant material instead of ingesting it as smoke. I think that is what most medicinal users do.
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USA-Ron
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:09amNO Different from a Person Drinking anywhere Legally
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savagenatn
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:09amwell the pothead trolls will all be moving to this decaying state
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THXll38
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:57amThis state has been decaying way before the legalization of weed.
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:42amI don’t know what a “pot head troll” is, but surfice it to say, I don’t think anyone will be moving so they can fire up legal.
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girlnurse
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:58pmIm neutral on this. I mean..whats the difference?…theres people who take pain pills and drink alcohol. I mean DUI is DUI no matter what you are on. If you are driving under the influence you will be arrested..but what constitutes “Under the influence” with pot? I wonder if they will have some kind of test for a limit of the amount in your system? I hate the stuff personally. But I have had good friends who can’t function without it…pot is very strange in how it affects people so differently. Im more worried about the dopes in the whitehouse right now!
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Pontiaku
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:45pm“WILL POT BE TAXED?”
Yeah, about as effectively as the dandelions in my yard can be taxed. Moronic to think you can tax something that can be grown without effort and in quantities that would trump even the most insane rate consumption…
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Keatonc33
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:32amIt actually takes effort and months to grow pot. It would be much easier to just run to the store and get some. and plus stoners are known for being lazy…
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THXll38
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:59amCorrect. It is like brewing your own beer is somehow convenient and easy to do…Not. The state will make a fortune and I am in favor of it even though I do not smoke weed.
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Bernard Gui
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:07amWonderful for Washington! Another tax producing scheme based on addictive behavior. How about some real revenue sources that are consistent, productive, and not dependent on vice?
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THXll38
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:24amBernard Gui -
There are a lot of addictive behaviors out there, but yet they are legal and I hear no one complain about them. Moderation is indeed the key, but the states should have the right to legalize weed without federal intervention.
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Pontiaku
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:49am[but yet they are legal and I hear no one complain about them.]
Really? No one where you live EVER complains about alcoholics and smokers? I had to put up with both in my family growing up and not once was I ever ok with either. I was too young to recognize pot had possibly inhibited parental responsibilities.
Also you guys are overstating the effort it takes to plant a seeds and dry leafs.
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Kupo
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:05amActually Pontiaku, it’s not all that simple to grow a number of plants. One of the big challenges with growing marijuana is separating the male plants from the female plants. Let slip even a single male plant into your grow room and you are left with a batch full of seeds, effectively ruining your yield. Being able to tell a male from a female plant and quarantining it before it starts pollenating is somewhat tricky. Growing pot isn’t just about sticking seeds in dirt and applying water.
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Kupo
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:23amThere’s also maintaining soil pH, proper room temperature and humidity, lighting, fertilizing, ventilation, pest control, and all sorts of other stuff that needs to be taken care of.
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SlaveToTruth
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:56amPontiaku, there will be no growing outside because the neighborhood kids will steal it out of the backyards. And, it it is anything like tomatoes, it won’t grow easily. I’ve been gardening for about 3 years and never had a good tomato harvest. I’ve done a little better with squash.
So as the other posters have replied to you, it will probably be grown indoors which requires all sorts of sophisticated techniques to actually get dense healthy flowers. So I really don’t think you have a clue.
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The Third Archon
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:20pmAnd we STILL imprison people for this ****–yeah, that seems like an effective use of public time and money.
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:46pmSorry but illegal means illegal only progressives and liberals can’t understand the meaning.
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KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:58pmSCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:46pm
Sorry but illegal means illegal only progressives and liberals can’t understand the meaning.
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Only a Progressive would know what Prohibition is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism_in_the_United_States#Prohibition
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macpappy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:04amScrew windows
You know pot was legal, right up until they made it illegal. Do you remember, or maybe read about prohibition? Legal, illegal, now it is, now it’s not. Prohibition caused the whole gangster era, you know Al Copone, Pretty Boyd Floyd, all that jaz.
Like I said this is another issue the Republicans are on the wrong side of.
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:35amSure it was legal until it was abused by a idiot much like sudafed and now we have to show I.D. or a prescription that is why it was made illegal misuse of any product will bring about a ban.
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booger71
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:07ammacpappy
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Except for the social democrats were in charge when it was deemed illegal, and FDR was president.
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Kupo
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:08amScrew Windows
If you really think that’s why pot was made illegal then you really need to read a book on the subject. That’s not at all why it was made illegal.
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stopprintn
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:19pmK-9 units will have to get super breath sniffing dogs to tell if a driver is under the influance. After the dog licks its*** it can perform the old snout in mouth sniff test.
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Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:31am53% of positive “Dog Sniffs” revealed nothing after a search. 75% if the suspect is Latino/Hispanic.
Reward my dog and he would swear that the cat is a terrorist.
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macpappy
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:13pmThis is an issue that the Republicans are on the wrong side of also.
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repairsea
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:25pmThe TCH level is so high in marijuana. You will see an increase in auto accidents and auto insurance. Eventually, big pharmaceutical companies will take over. Oh and you still cannot get a job with defense companies and other large professional organization being a dope smoker. I certainly don’t want to work next to you nor would I hire you. Dopers will always be seen as drug addicts.
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macpappy
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:58pmOr maybe they will be looked upon just as you look upon a person that has a cockttail in the afternoon. See, you make my point, without knowing it. The perception of cannibis is what the govrenment has made it. Proclaiming cannibis illegal made the sheeple preceive it as bad. Everybody that smokes is not a doper, no more than a person that drinks occasionally is a drunk.
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Keatonc33
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:18amAgreed completely! It wouldn’t even be a political issue, and shouldn’t, except democrats were first to support legalization. So of course republicans have to hate it.
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THXll38
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:04amPeople have been smoking a lot of weed way before it was legalized. Yet driving while stoned has yet to be an issue. The perception of this natural gift from God blows my mind. No one has ever overdosed from it, I never seen anyone get violent from smoking it, and yet, people assume that it is bad because the government says so… WTF? The government claims all kinds of things to be bad, yet I hear social cons call BS on those topics, but yet cannot wrap their heads around a plant that relaxes most people.
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Psychosis
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:12pmlol if they think they will make any money in taxes, after government takes its cut for ” expenses” to spend anywhere else i have a bridge to sell you
people will just grow their own, or buy from the guy around the corner
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:43pmYea tax evasion will be heavily enforced who’s kidding who ?
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Keatonc33
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 12:28amLet me ask you a question.. lets say you really wanted some corn for dinner.. would you grow it yourself and wait several months? would you put yourself at risk and go buy it illegally at a higher cost? or would you just run to the store and pick some up?
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:42amLets see you want something a little stronger lets say laced with PCP it’s becoming more popular these days are you going to go to the store for it ?
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Fubared
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:14pmKeaton-so you are equating a drug with food? Your folks need some kind of return on your uneducation. Find a lawyer and sue that community college.
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Keatonc33
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:54pmIts a very reasonable comparison Furbred
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Ducky 1
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:11pmGot to love my state but need to wait for those brownies!
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swoods08
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:28pm“So, bong hits and funny brownies for everybody?” This statement made me laugh so hard! TY!
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macpappy
Posted on December 6, 2012 at 11:10pmYeah, but it’s cold up there, and there aint enough cows.
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