Ellen DeGeneres’ Christmas Ad Sparks Conservative Protest: ‘Christians Must Now Vote With Their Wallets’
Gay talk show host Ellen DeGeneres is, once again, the focus of a debate between J.C. Penney and the conservative media watchdog One Million Moms (OMM). The comedian appears in a comical Christmas commercial for the company, during which she interacts with Santa’s elves. Rather than instilling holiday cheer, OMM believes that DeGeneres’ presence in the clip, considering her sexuality, is offensive.

Portia de Rossi and Ellen DeGeneres pose on the red carpet during The 15th Annual Mark Twain Prize For American Humor at John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts on October 22, 2012 in Washington, DC. Credit: Getty Images
“Since April, JC Penney’s has not aired Ellen DeGeneres in one of their commercials until now. A new JCP ad features Ellen and three elves,” the organization said, according to Boston.com. “JCP has made their choice to offend a huge majority of their customers again. Christians must now vote with their wallets.”
The organization went on to say that it has conveyed its concerns to the company before, but that they have been ignored. See the ad in question, below:
As we’ve reported in the past, OMM’s comments against J.C. Penney are nothing new. The popular department store chain found itself in the middle of controversy earlier this year when it first formed a partnership with DeGeneres.
The organization continues to express its feeling that, as a result of being gay, the comedian is a poor spokesperson, role model and personality for the company to select. Here’s what OMM wrote about DeGeneres on its web site earlier this year:
“Funny that JC Penney thinks hiring an open homosexual spokesperson will help their business when most of their customers are traditional families. DeGeneres is not a true representation of the type of families that shop at their store. The majority of JC Penney shoppers will be offended and choose to no longer shop there. The small percentage of customers they are attempting to satisfy will not offset their loss in sales.”

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While the organization inevitably backed off the call for a boycott in early 2012, Monica Cole, the director of the group, said, ”We have heard back from men and women — not just moms — saying they will no longer shop there at JC Penney, as long as Ellen DeGeneres is their spokesperson.”
Ellen, of course, defended herself, joking, “I mean, if they have a problem with spokespeople, what about the Pillsbury Doughboy? I mean, he runs around without any pants on and basically begging people to poke his belly. What kind of message is that?”
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kadster01
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:52pmYeah….I’m a straight, conservative, middle-aged male and I’m afraid I fail to see the issue here. Ellen DeGeneres is what I wish more gay people were like. She has class, respect, dignity, not to mention she’s hilarious. Complaining about her presence in a JCP ad is just silly to me when we have so many more important issues to address. This makes the conservative cause a laughing stock.
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Daithi
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:11pmI’m also a straight, conservative, middle-aged male and I agree with you 100%. I’ve no problem with Ellen or gay people in general.
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borfo
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:11pmDitto! Couldn’t have said it better. She is a person, and she has always been funny. I don’t agree with her “sin bend”, and vehemently disagree with the “gay agenda”, BUT COME ON! Chill out and laugh. Love her for God’s sake. literally. As she is. Boycotts are not going to change culture, God, and prayer will. Those actions make me want to boycott the boycotters.
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:20pmI third that post. Barney Frank on the other hand, no. He can’t announce he’s Gay and shut up about it. It goes on and on and on and on and he likes to make out in Public a lot. Oh God, i just threw up.
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toiletclogga
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:21pmI just watched the commercial. What’s the big deal? I find Ellen Degeneres to be one of the few openly gay people whom I actually like, and find to be funny. Her schtick is to be self-deprecating, and she doesn’t throw her issues with being gay in the faces of others. This One Million Moms group needs to get a life!
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TheBullyOne
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:22pmI’m straight, middle aged, an Latino. I do have at least one compliment for Ellen; she sure does know how to pick hot chicks. Her “wife” is hot!
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DeeCee
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:24pm@KADSTER01
…straight, conservative and middle aged you may be, but you are also very wrong.
You and folks like Lynda1276 can point your “morally humanistic” noses up in the air while spewing crap like “what’s the problem?”, but you know full well what the problem is. Ellen and her followers stand up and shake their collective fists in the face of a Holy God, in defiance of a sick, twisted, perverse lifestyle.
Homosexuality is, and those who practice it are, perverse, sick and an abomination to the Creator of the universe. Those (like yourselves) that promote, enable or tolerate it fit right into the same camp.
Ellen should change her last name to something more appropriate… like Ellen Degenerate, which is what and who she really is. The sooner that JCP goes out of business, the better.
Those of us who are truly conservative and to whom fear God, do not wish to have our children and/or our grandchildren brainwashed into accepting such things.
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Uncle Dave
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:25pmkadster01; Like you I am also a straight, conservative, middle-aged male. The issue is more publicity for gays, on TV, movies, etc… that “could” lead to more (so called) “moral decay”, along with teen pregnancy, unprotected sex, young adults doing all form of alcohol or drug induced stupidity, etc.
I’m not a “prude”, I just know it’s gotten a lot worse since I was being stupid in the early 70’s. Also I’m not a big fan of the gay lifestyle but as you pointed out Ms. DeGeneres has class, respect and dignity. Much better that the throngs dressed as ??? at the gay pride parades. To me many of those “flamboyant” members are more harmful to their cause than anything.
Bottom line: I treat gays like bees, they don’t bother me and I don’t bother them… This country and this planet have far worse things to worry about, i.e. Iran with nukes, federal bankruptcy, etc.
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:25pmRight. Ellen is like the gnat that simply wont go away. Take awy the fact that she enjoys orgasm with another female ….and you are left with another opinionated UNfunny blonde bimbo. She is news only because of sex.
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JoeE71
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:29pmI am those things too (Conservative, religious, straight etc) and I did not find this particular ad offensive. However, I think OMM is right in one regard. The normalizing and validation of homosexuality is the problem here. This creates laws where people are desensitized to homosexuality and therefore are ok with things like gay marriage. It is the principle of boiling the frog. We are getting the water turned up on us . . . time to jump out.
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dsd13130
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:29pmRight there with you….I see nothing offensive in Ellen’s commercial or show. I’m thinking this organization is barking up the wrong tree on this protest. As a matter of fact, I would think they would be hurting their cause. Jesus loves everybody (including Ellen) and it’s his birthday. I don’t shop at JCP because it’s not convenient to do so but her being a spokesperson wouldn’t influence me in any way.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:31pmI think the fact that Guns and Gays draw all of the commentary and economics articles have no traffic to speak of also doesn’t do us credit.
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jhrusky
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:34pm@ deecee
“Those of us who are truly conservative and to whom fear God, do not wish to have our children and/or our grandchildren brainwashed into accepting such things.”
I’ve watched Ellen’s show a few times and find her quite funny. I’ve never seen where she is trying to indoctrinate anyone’s children or grandchildren into becoming homosexual. Can you provide references?
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00100111
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:35pmI don’t get it either. She’s lesbian, so what? Does that mean she’s not allowed to work? Do the OMM think that seeing her on tv are going to turn their little preciouses gay? I may not personally agree with her lifestyle choices, but big effing deal. She’s extremely funny, witty, successful and from what I understand she’s a very nice person as well.
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elsa
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:35pmWell said! I have no issue with Ellen. I do however have an issue with people who walk around calling themselves conservatives who do not support individual liberty.
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jhrusky
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:38pmI agree with you totally, @kadster01
The so-called “conservative christians” becoming more and more crazy all the time (and hypocrites to boot). They want to tell everyone how to live and what to and not to watch on television, but themselves want to judge others. They tout “God says this is wrong” but ignore all their actions that are obviously wrong. What Ellen does in her bedroom is none of my nor their business. If she’s out trying to recruit people and “turn them gay” (as if that’s even possible!), that’s a different ballgame, but I’ve yet to see her doing that.
If these so-called do-gooder christian conservatives would put their own house in order before trying to fix someone elses, they’d have a bit more to talk about. Until that happens, they are but dust in the wind.
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TruthPolice60
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:43pmHeterosexual people don’t refer to themselves as straight. We call ourselves NORMAL. It’s the homosexuals who coined the term straight to refer to us NORMAL people. Thus, I suspect the three of you are homosexuals trying to manipulate the debate as you have with your entire public relations effort to gain mainstream acceptance for your unhealthy lifestyle. I’m seeing a lot of leftist participation on conversative sites. It’s pretty easy to spot.
Just looking at DeGeneris and other manly types like Rachel Mancow is enough to turn my stomach. So, as JC Penny is free to use who they want to advertise their products, I will exercise my freedom to shop elsewhere. To your disdain, the conservative cause is alive and well.
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Fubared
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:44pmRoth-
Bingo. Speaks volumes about where we are as a peeps. I, I, I, I, … I couldn’t give a tepid crap about gays and burglers when we are broke financially and morally. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee cliff time.
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R4M0N
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:45pmI agree… There’s nothing wrong with that commercial at all.
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jodi
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:48pmyeah me too!
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GloriousTKS
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:49pmDEECEE do you judge other sinners just as harshly? Surely you do not want a society that accepts adulterers or liars, or people who take the name of God in vain. Where is the open outrage for these sins? How about people who have pictures of God in their house? Ungraven or other images of God is also a sin. I mean, sins that are SPECIFICALLY listed in the 10 commandments are continually broken in the open by people and groups every day. I agree that the homosexual community has a LOT of issues. I for one would be horrified if my “culture” promoted open sexuality and promiscuity to the point that the gay community does. However, Ellen is not a promoting “gay culture” she’s selling stuff for JC Penny’s. If you are planning on judging people for their sins, please consider that there are MANY sinners and you have a LONG row to hoe.
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Lucci
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:53pmLove the ad.
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kadster01
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:55pmIf this commercial was created for the purpose of grandstanding gay causes or even mentioned it in an offhand way, those of you expressing righteous indignation would have cause to be doing so. However, it doesn’t do anything of the sort. Do you think every commercial you see only features straight people? Really? Do you think every movie you pay money to see only stars those whose lifestyles you approve of? A lot of people like to put words into God’s mouth and make up His mind for Him. Too often, they do so with malice and hatred in their hearts. I have just as much disdain for those who flaunt their homosexuality in a confrontational way as I do for proselytizing religious zealots who believe themselves worthy of speaking for God.
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jhrusky
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:55pm@ truthpolice60
“Heterosexual people don’t refer to themselves as straight. We call ourselves NORMAL. It’s the homosexuals who coined the term straight to refer to us NORMAL people.”
Perhaps that is because the opposite of ‘normal’ is ‘abnormal’. That term is not necessarily a pleasant term to anyone who is ‘different’. What is ‘normal’? Is it the majority of ____ ? If more people are straight than gay, does that gay normal? If more people are poor than rich, does that make rich people abnormal? If more people are non-business owners, does that make business owners abnormal? If more men are attracted to female breasts than those attracted to female legs, does that make leg men abnormal?
What attracts a person is not something you learn … it’s something you are born with. If you are a heterosexual, I’m pretty sure you didn’t choose that, but were born that way. Why do you not afford gay people the same possibility?
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GetRight
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:59pmI agree! I am a Conservative Christian mom of three young children and I have no problem with Ellen. As long as she is not pushing her lifestyle choice on me or my family, I have no problem with her. Although I believe her lifestyle choice is wrong it is none of my business what she chooses to do in her private life. I think she is funny and seems to be a really nice person. Things like this are what gives Conservative Christians a bad name. We should care more about showing Jesus’s love and message while holding true to our values. Do they really think they are going to win people over by attacking Ellen? I do not shop at JCP but I would not boycott over Ellen.
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Truthbeliever2
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:00pmThanks OMM. I won’t be shopping there. Whether they decide to get rid of her or not. I’m personally fed up with having other peoples PERVERSIONS shoved in my face. To think that many of us in society say it just fine to have the sick perversions of societies FREAKS forced on us by a very small percentage of the population makes me want to puke.
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think1st
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:01pm@ DeeCee
And *you* are precisely one of the reasons Mitt Romney lost the election. The Republicans drove away gays, blacks, Latinos, women, the non-religious… Everybody but mddle aged white guys and some of their wives. Attitudes like yours will keep fiscal conservatives (and I’m one) out of office for most likely the rest of your depressing life. Thanks a lot; we had a pretty good country for a while there. Not perfect, but pretty darn good. I just hope you realize that you contribute, every time you post, to Obama’s “fundamental transformation”of this country. Cheers.
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bannedfromCNN
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:06pmEllen Degenerate should stick to selling rugs.
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Truthbeliever2
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:08pmJRHUSKY, The opposite of straight is crooked or twisted, and that is exactly what they are.They all need to be shipped off to an island until their respective lives run out. Presto! No more queers shoving their sick twisted ways in your face, on television, in the park, in the restaurant, in the bathroom with your kids… You get the picture. A man can dream…
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YouCantExplainThat
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:08pmI agree with all those opposed to homosexuality, we should roll back the clock to days when homosexuality was seen as wrong by everyone, and while we are at it bring back slavery, and lets take away women’s right to vote, and their right to work. Let’s go back all the way to ancient times, because life was so much better for people then. All in the name of the Christian god.
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000degrees
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:10pmI find OMM about as helpful as PETA…..I’ll make up my own mind as to where I shop, thanks. I believe I can tell the difference between someone who shows me respect and one I can respect. I do have trouble telling the sinner from the pure…at least the ones currently walking the earth…..
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jhrusky
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:10pm@ truthbeliever
“I’m personally fed up with having other peoples PERVERSIONS shoved in my face. To think that many of us in society say it just fine to have the sick perversions of societies FREAKS forced on us by a very small percentage of the population makes me want to puke.”
Wow. You’re calling gay people ‘freaks’ and labeling their likes/dislikes as ‘perversions’? You are one wonderful, loving example of a ‘christian’.
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Silvertruth
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:19pmFolks, everyone has the rights to vote with their wallets. I personally don’t find the ad offensive. I am not offended by homosexuality as long as those following it remain responsible adults and pragmatic about their lifestyle, not trying to ‘normalize’ it which it will never be until it is ‘normal’ to practice it. I’m not a big fan of the word normal, I actually dislike it but I’m staying in context here.
Now, I get what the religious feel about it, they are very worried that it will become ‘normal’ for a majority to practice it. Is that possible? Sure, it was normal in Rome and a few other ancient cultures. That was where it was a choice and not a ‘genetic’ thing like the current homosexual community thinking preaches. So, it certainly can be a ‘choice’.
Right now, today, it isn’t ‘normal’ and it really isn’t hurting anyone except those that practice it, so my advice to the violently offended by Ellen, go elsewhere to look for a fight, there are far bigger issues in the world that pose greater threats to religion than this one. Move along folks.
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Truthbeliever2
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:20pmJRHUSKY, Wow. You’re calling gay people ‘freaks’ and labeling their likes/dislikes as ‘perversions’? You are one wonderful, loving example of a ‘christian’.
Here is my response: Read your bible. If you have one. Perversion/Abomination either is fine with me. I will waste no more breath on you. It would be akin to having a discussion with a stone.
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frust@ted
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:21pmdeecee,
I would rather invite Ellen into my home than someon like you. You clearly have never taken the time to get to know someone who is gay, if you did you would realize they are people too.
By no means do I think that you should have to agree with their choice or even support something like gay marriage or agree with them being abel to adopt.
My question to you or any of you who find this ad offensive do you even see someone like Ellen as a person? I really don’t think you can if you find this commercial so objectionable.
Domenic
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charles116
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:26pmOne Million moms = Harriet and Gertrude and their cats.
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Recceman90
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:28pmI am with you, too! Ellen is a great patriot….I don’t care who she sleeps with. She has never hurt anyone and is very generous with her money.
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jhrusky
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:29pm@ truthbeliever2
“Here is my response: Read your bible. If you have one. Perversion/Abomination either is fine with me. I will waste no more breath on you. It would be akin to having a discussion with a stone.”
Oh, I have one. And I do read it. Mine, however, says I am not to judge. Mine also says I am to be my brother’s keeper and love others. Perhaps yours has misprints.
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zorro
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:33pmI don’t get it either.
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savedbygrace7
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:33pm+1 Kadster01. I personally find Ellen pretty funny as long as she’s keeping the politics out of her comedy. We even purchased an older video of her stand up routine where she basically starts out poking fun at the requisite gay pride jokes Paraphrasing, she’ll take her stand, but it’s not going to be the focus of her act.
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JULIKINS209
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:34pmI totally agree.
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:35pm“Christians Must Now Vote With Their Wallets”
If JC Penney thought they were going to lose that vote, they wouldn’t have chosen her for a spokesperson to start with.
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etshoney
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:39pmYou are SO RIGHT ! I just don’t get it. There are Gay people and straight people. If a Company uses a straight person does that mean Gays will boycott? I really wish these folks would go away. They give all conservatives a bad name. I could care less what you do in your bedroom.
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Amica
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:41pmDitto from me as well. JCP wouldn’t put her on commercials if she weren’t very popular with consumers in general. This is the kind of group that gives a bad reputation to conservatives in general and Christians in particular.
My usual response to groups demanding or threatening a boycott is to make a point to shop a the targeted business. My daughter’s birthday is coming up, I think I’ll make a trip to JCP.
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:41pmPenney’s is in trouble anyway if they last very much longer I’ll be surprised.
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Mudd
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:44pmI’m with the majority of those who have replied to this post. It’s a non-issue made into an issue. I’ve never known a gay person who’s tried to indoctrinate me to their way of thinking. On the other hand, I could write a book on my experiences with Christians who have tried to force their religion on me. The self rightouse crowd is why there exists a freedom from religion movement – which I believe is detrimental to the country as a whole. Get a clue, shut up, worship as you please and leave the rest of us alone. As it is your no better than the radical Islamists.
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RANGER1965
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:45pm@Meteor,
Actually I’m pretty sure they didn’t think anyone would care. I’m sure in a couple of months they will do an evaluation and if they are doing poorly then they will drop Ellen. If not, they can thumb their noses at the Christians. That’s what a free market is all about.
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zorro
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:45pmDon’t bite your tounge, DeeCee. We’re all sinners and no one knows how we will be judged. For all you know, your sin is greater. It’s not OK to ‘tolerate’ this homosexual garbage but it’s equally not OK to treat people in the manner you are.
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RajCaj
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:45pmI don’t see anything wrong with the ad either.
My issue with gay community is that it’s pop culture is steeped in “in your face” over sexed raunchiness….which cannot be found in this JCP ad (or in anything that involves Ellen in general). She isn’t draping herself in a rainbow flag, hanging all over another woman, or doing anything that alludes to her sexuality in the commercial. As a matter of fact, had you not known Ellen is gay, you wouldn’t be any the wiser watching the ad.
Take it easy!
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:46pmyeah ummm JZS..sorry..SENDTHEMETEORS?
Penney’s has been in fiscal trouble for a while now champ..their gambit with entertaining the homosexual crowd hasn’t paid off nor have any of their other strategies.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucerogers/2012/06/22/more-trouble-ahead-for-jc-penny/
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MCGIRV
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:47pmSo Ellen is openly homosexual. That’s her business. People need to lighten up!
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brother_ed
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:52pmIt is my belief that God loves Ellen as much as He loves me. This goes for athiests, Muslims, and any other group that is so often disparaged by some on this site.
The only difference being He blesses me more due to my love for Him and according to the dilligence I show in carrying out His will (not mine) and following His commandments.
I believe in a loving Heavenly Father who wants to bless his children. He gives us many opportunities to repent of our sins. He loves is so much that He sent His only begotten Son that we may be forgiven of our sins and be washed clean that we may live with Him.
Ellen and other homosexuals can, and often are, wonderful caring individuals.
I do not support homosexual marriage, but I do not think they should be vilified because of their sexual preference.
True, their behavior may disqualify them from reviewing certain blessings and we should warn against the consequence of their behavior, but we must love them as we would love any of our brothers and sisters.
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brother_ed
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:53pm*recieving
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sy212
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:56pmYep, Ellen is ok with me, I feel the same way about religion. Don’t cram your beliefs down my throat and I won’t cram mine down yours. That is why liberals are taking so much heat these days. Turns out they are the haters.
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CHRIS260
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:57pmThe blaze is just a sad excuse for a news site. This is a pop culture opinion site. I thought this was going to be like BG but Glenn has lost his spine. Really sad. I use to be a huge fan, but it appears he isn’t unplugging from the system, but rather becoming just like it. I cancelled my online subscription, about to stop logging on to the site altogether.
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rhcpryan
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:58pmHey deecee you can cram your religion up your *******! sick of bible thumping taint ticklers like your self running off voters! You and every other bible beating lunatic like yourself trying to shove your beliefs down our throats need to back off. So sick of muslims and christians destroying this planet! Mind your fukhole!!!!!
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truthnstuff
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:08pmkadster01: DITTO! She is not an in your face gay. She is what they should be, minding their own lives.
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RevDev
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:10pmRemember Progressives make us less effective by throwing us emotional fodder like this. Education and the Family is what we must fix. Raging against a kind Lesbian like Ellen makes you look stoopid and intolerant. WELCOME TO PLAYING THEIR GAME MORONS! They yank your chain and you start swirling around in circles.
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krod2516
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:10pmAgree 100%. I am sure that Christians will never lead someone to Jesus this way.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:15pmKADSTER01, I’m in the same boat as you, and I find nothing wrong with this ad either. Frankly, there is more than enough real stuff in the world now to take concern with. Much ado about nothing.
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Swimming-with-the-Sharks
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:15pmI also think it is stupid to be offended by her presence in an advertisement. If she was trying to sell her lifestyle I would agree that the concerns of OMM would be valid. In this case she is selling JCP.
To be offended by her mere presence in a commercial is to be as petty and intollerant as so many on the left really are.
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DonaldH
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:19pmI’m more secular than anything and sometimes even question Christianity itself but if you two can’t see how a gay persons in a CHRISTIAN setting as this is offensive to a devout Christian then you two are clueless..
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Clever Username
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:32pmThat’s a big 10-4 Kadster01. Ellen is a funny, soft spoken, generous person. She’s never in your face about her sexuality, and why should she be. All people with class (including hetersexuals) don’t need to talk about what goes on in the privacy of their personal lives. Her sexuality doesn’t define her but she’s not ashamed of it either. She seems like a very nice person and she makes me laugh
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canada 1958
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:48pmi agree if more gays were like ellen the issue would die. i have watched her show for year she is not a pusshy gay she is polite to all she does not talk bad about republicans yes she voted for obama but that is her right to do so. boycotts do not work look at chick fillay .stop trying to hurt buisineses
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chingachgook
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:52pmAs a few have pointed out, it is the in your face aspect of the Gay Movement that is offensive. It is all to make their lifestyle acceptable. I love it. They hold hands and have overly showy displays of affection while at Disney. While they take it over for a week end, and I can not be offended when my children stare at their other actions. I am not telling you what my sexual preferences are and why should I know why your’s are. Why do we have to even know. That is the public nature of this movement. Make the straight look like the abnormal ones. I guess I am just abnormal.
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AMickey1126
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:00pmI wholeheartedly agree. Sometimes I think that if people didn’t have anything to complain about, they’d complain about that.
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Advection
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:01pmWhat’s the problem with an openly gay person in a JCP commercial? Is this Iran?
Jesus ate with sinners, so should you.
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loriann12
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:02pmI’m a straight middle aged woman, and I fail to see the problem. It’s a friggin’ commercial. who cares what her sexual orientation is if she’s not pushing it?
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Beck_Art_Obama_In_PeePee
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:19pmEllen Degenerate …
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PlowMan
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:21pmI am also straight, male, early middle age. I did not see anything wrong with the ad. I do however find lots of things wrong with the lifestyle Miss. DeGenerate lives. I do not wish ill on anyone including Ellen but this lifestyle is not normal and not good. We need to not be glorifying it! I pray for people like her every day. I pray they can find Jesus and turn from their wicked ways. God loves her and everyone on this earth but He will not tolerate this behavior. As a nation we must not embrace such behavior. Everyone please pray for this nation! Again I did not see anything wrong with the ad.
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beenaround
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:23pmI’m with you. OMM- get real and work on something more pressing. You make Christians look ignorant.
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Beck_Art_Obama_In_PeePee
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:23pmELLEN DEGENERATE … do some people really need a BIGGER HINT?
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Nay Nay
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:34pmAmen. Ellen Degeneres is a nice person out there making a living. I am so tired of so called “conservatives” using their religion in place of their politics. They are the reason we lose elections because they are too worried about what kind of sex someone supposedly has, instead of worrying about the plight of our country. They are the ones who stay home and won’t vote for a Mormon or for a gay person. These people are so worried about gays having sex that they overlook straight, heterosexual married couples sitting next to them in a church pew who engage in the same form of sex. So you holier than thou christian conservatives, keep your religion to yourself when dealing in politics because under the Constitution Ellen Degeneres has just as much right to support her family as you do!!!!! Stop hating on someone when you don’t even know them. Turn the channel if you don’t want to watch the commercial. I am a Catholic, Conservative, Constitutionalist who believes individual rights supercede anyone’s religion.
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Jaravial
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:35pmOne more here. There are much bigger issues to worry about. Pick your battles people.
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Libertarian
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:48pmThis is a non-issue.
This is a big government Republican issue. A true small government conservative would say, put marriage back in the churches – government should not be licensing marriage.
It is big government Republicans that want everybody to live in their box. If it does not break your arm, pick your pocket or force feed your children then what concern is it to you?
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AMidnightRider
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:50pmI agree, the message being presented isn’t about her sexuality, it’s about a popular talk show host / comedian selling product (nothing news worthy here, they all do it). Just like Macy’s message wasn’t about Donald Trumps Politics. I do however have a problem when JCP crosses that line and makes sexuality the message as has been done this last summer with two “Dad’s” playing with their son in some of their news paper adds. Top that off with their implications behind the add having two tweens dressing, that’s why I choose not to shop at JCP.
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bhilton2665
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:55pmI’m straight and a Christian. Frankly, making a big deal out if this is the reason everyone views Christians as a hate group. I’ve got no problem with Ellen or this ad! I wish people would stop already!
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EM2T93
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:06pm@ DONALDH…perfect answer and thoughtfully said. That really is the heart of the issue, and I greatly appreciate your words.
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Keatonc33
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:12pmKadster! Very well put!
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Lucy Larue
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:20pm@DEECEE
I am thinking that you are a troublemaking troll. Your “comment” is meant to disrupt and distract
I am so glad to see that your post is a major fail.
Ellen is a class act.
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The_Postal
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:28pmI could honestly care less about this. She’s a non-issue and just in ads. Get over yourself.
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Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:38pmI don’t see a problem with this AD at all….I had to watch it a few times to look for the “offencivness” of it and i failed to find it….
rangerskippy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:39pm….I’m a straight, conservative, middle-aged male and I’m afraid what I have an issues with does not amount to a hill of beans. The God of the Holy Bible has an issue with it, thus it matters.
the Bible is very clear about homosexuality being an abomination, thus I will not shop at JCP.
Gays make up 2.5% of the population, they have 64% of the nations syphilis, they made up 57% of new HIV cases last year, the commit one third of the nations child molestations, they have above average drug and alcohol abuse rates, and the highest suicide rates.
The Family is the most basic unit of governance and educations. When the family falls, the nation falls. Homosexuality is an act against God, against the family, and against the nations. Every nation in history that has accepted homosexuality as normal has soon after fell. Our nations is crumbling around us, and the gays will not stop until it is destroyed,
They will get the right nationally to get married. After that, they will fing to lower the age of consent. They will then fight to shut down home schooling, private school, and take away first amendment rights for pastors and families.
Homosexuals are sexual devients, just like rapists, child molesters, and people who have sex with animals.
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SHOOTnCRASH
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:45pmI’m with you, enough of this crap. Most people are fine with all this. There’s lesbians and gays all around you. They aren’t going anywhere and I’m sick of this wasted energy and time on this subject. Let them have their lives and get on with yours! I guess I should say I vote mostly Republican/conservative.
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gosutag
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:45pm@KADSTER01: You’d be surprised that most gay people are like you described. It’s just that most people can’t see through homosexuality. It’s sad.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:47pmwow, sure had a lot of errors in that last one, let me try again.
o ….I’m a straight, conservative, middle-aged male and I’m afraid what I have an issues with does not amount to a hill of beans. The God of the Holy Bible has an issue with it, thus it matters.
The Bible is very clear about homosexuality being an abomination, thus I will not shop at JCP.
Gays make up 2.5% of the population, they have 64% of the nations syphilis, they made up 57% of new HIV cases last year, the commit one third of the nations child molestations, they have above average drug and alcohol abuse rates, and the highest suicide rates.
The Family is the most basic unit of governance and education. When the family falls, the nation falls. Homosexuality is an act against God, against the family, and against the nations. Every nation in history that has accepted homosexuality as normal has soon after fell. Our nations is crumbling around us, and the gays will not stop until it is destroyed,
Sodomites will get the right nationally to get married. After that, they will fight to lower the age of consent. They will then fight to shut down home schooling, private school, and take away first amendment rights for pastors and families.
Homosexuals are sexual deviants, just like rapists, child molesters, and people who have sex with animals.
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ambrosia
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:48pmTruly-
JCPenney is two flushes away from going down the toilet.
The stockholders are itchy, the company is tanking.
They tried to copy the marketing strategy & look of “Target”,
substituting a square symbol,
in place of the “Target” round symbol.
rebooting their look to refreshen & “target-nize” it.
The ole’ advertising theory-
take your most successful competitor & apply their marketing strategy.
Sometimes it works, sometimes, it doesn’t-
this time it didn’t.
It has nothing to do with Degeneres & her lifestyle-
it has everything to do with
trying to put a new coat of paint
on a business…falling apart.
Yes, JCP needed to update,
but sometimes, updating means going back to who you originally were
& staying true to oneself while adjusting with the times-
an American tradition…sadly, JCP has lost their way.
Just look at all the Dept. stores
who have reinstated the old, traditional “Layaway”-
in these troubling times,
families appreciate that offer & option.
Translation: Thank goodness, someone “CARES” enough about us
to bring back the long, departed “layaway”-
every small kindness helps…BOTH consumer & retailer.
All JCP’s commercials, in which they used DeGeneres
& probably paid a fortune
were embarrassingly horrible-
horribly written, horribly executed….horrible FLOPS !
It’s the consumer’s choice to shop where one wants
but it’s ridiculous to make everything political-
ugh, that’s so, so VERY leftist.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:54pm26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:57pmwhen God “gives you up” be it as a individual or as a nation, you are headed for very hard times.
When the majority of the nation sides with the devient homosexual sodomites, we are heading toward reprobate status as a nation.
I will bet that America as we know it is no longer standing within five years.
We will drowned in our own filth
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Sensible_Centrist_Democrat
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:14pmJust another example of the War on Christmas….
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frust@ted
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:30pmrangerskippy
Reading from your posts i can tell you have a completly healthy and normal obsesion with the gay community.
Why anyone would take the time to look up those stats or care about them is beyond me?
Keep on truckin buddy.
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Beck_Art_Obama_In_PeePee
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:31pm“Lėsbian” Ellen Degenerate!
[cymbal hit]
And it doesn’t matter to you!
[cymbal hit]
But … makes you wonder. Is God in show-business, too?
[drum roll]
Yes, God IS in SHOW-BUSINESS!
[cymbal hit]
And God is SHOW-ing the U.S.A. that he means BUSINESS (can you spell O-B-A-M-A?):
27 ‘And after all this, if you do not obey Me, but walk contrary to Me,
28 then I also will walk contrary to you in fury; and I, even I, will
. chastise you seven times for your sins.
…
30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars, and
. cast your carcasses on the lifeless forms of your idols; and My soul
. shall abhor you.
32 I will bring the land to desolation, and your enemies who dwell in
. it shall be astonished at it.
33 I will scatter you among the nations and draw out a sword after you;
. your land shall be desolate and your cities waste.
34 Then the land shall enjoy its sabbaths as long as it lies desolate
. and you are in your enemies’ land; then the land shall rest and enjoy
. its sabbaths.
38 You shall perish among the nations, and the land of your enemies shall
. eat you up.
39 And those of you who are left shall waste away in their iniquity in
. your enemies’ lands; also in their fathers’ iniquities, which are with
. them, they shall waste away.’
-Leviticus 26, Holy Bible
[cymbal hit]
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:40pmfrust@ted
Notice that you can not debte the statistics I enlightened you with. They are easily obtainable on the Center for Disease Control website, and via th uniform crime reports.
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budahbabe
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:44pmI could not agree more. Guess what? We have gay people on the planet! Get over it!
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LB
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:45pmDitto…although so many try to lable us all as prejudice. Our own fault for not countering the message correctly.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:55pm@BUDAHBABE
your comment – “We have gay people on the planet! Get over it!”
Brilliant – we also have child molesters, rapist, and folks that have sex with sheep on our planet – do you just “get over it”, do you let them take over your public schools, your military, where you shop?
there is a funny thing about “my” money. That happens to be that it is mine. If you support a devient lifestyle that is counter to morality and decency, then I choose not to spend my money at your business.
what are you going to do? You gonna have the thought police arrest the Christians, and force them to spend money at JCP?
We Christians speak with our pocket book, and we choose not to support business the promotes the sodomites and their lifestyle
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frust@ted
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:59pmrangerskippy,
You are making the mistake that I care about those facts, I don’t need to debate them because they are completly irrelevent to this story. Just because someone starts blurting out facts doesn’t mean that one is winning an argument.
I can throw out stats to 1 out of every 6 times I fart it’s a wet one, i call those rangerskippys. Debate that fact.
BOOM, I just wrote that.
on a side not that wet fart actually gets that I’m pointing out you have an odd obsession with the gay statistics.
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SDBorn
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:03pmI am a straight, fiscal conservative, middle-aged female and I have no problem with Ellen or any other gay person either. I happen to really enjoy Ellen.
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frust@ted
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:07pmrangerskippy
ob·ses·sion
[ əb sésh'n ]
1.preoccupation: an idea or feeling that completely occupies the mind
2.state of being obsessed: the state of being obsessed by somebody or something
3.uncontrollable persistence of idea: the uncontrollable persistence of an idea or emotion in the mind, sometimes associated with psychiatric disorder
you know what chief, on second thought I’m not sure that you fit that definition from your posts.
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Sensible_Centrist_Democrat
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:21pmHow does viewing gay marriage (two consenting adults allowed to get married) as moral lead to making child molestation legal.
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MEC9
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:33pmEllen does not try to force her lifestyle on the rest of the people. She is a lovely lady who is successful and witty. There is no reason that she should not do advertising for JC Penneys.
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Parrid1
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:37pmExactly…..She carries herself well…I can see why she rolls around in the sack w that women…can’t blame her for that….
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1TrueOne55
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:42pmI think that the short little people always playing the part of elves is offensive where is the ACLU on that issue Sue Ellen…. She made fun of being “Small” thats offensive.. etc etc etc. But just being Gay in a Commercial. What The HELL, I am a believer in Christ’s Salvation of Mankind two thousand plus years ago in Jerusalem. I have problems with Dec 25 as the day we celebrate his birth since there is no birth certificate to prove it and Italian Catholic History has proven that this day was chosen by their faction of Christendom in the 3rd Century during the reign of Constantine the “Christian” Emperor and forced on the rest of the Christian faith by the Popes of the past.
God loves Gays as much as he loves straight people its their actions that get them into trouble with his Laws.
If you leave the Gay Community to reproduce on their own Evolution will have them dead at least 100years later, they can’t reproduce children with same gender copulation.
So let’s leave them alone and when they are ready to leave the Gay life let’s accept them as forgiven as God would do to them.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:47pmIn 1963 there was a list of 45 goals communists had for the destruction of America that was read before congress. One of those goals for the destruction of America was to have homosexuality become viewed as normal or natural. Not one politician stood up, and said “how dare you speak ill of homosexuals”. Even the liberals then in congress knew it to be evil and destructive to the nation. Not one of our founding fathers spoke of rights for sodomites, and Gen Washington saw fit to kick them out of his Army.
In 1987, when I joined the Army, an officer at the MEPS in Detroit looked me in the eye, and asked “are you homosexual”. To answer yes, or to support homosexuality was enough to prevent military service. GEN Colin Powell the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was vocal to Pres Bill Clinton on why homosexuality was contrary to good morale and discipline, and did not belong in our military.
Rome, prior to falling, saw a surge in deviant sexual behaviors, to include homosexuality, bestiality, orgies, and a break down in the family.
Now, it just a few short years, America has decided to side with MTV, Laddy Ga Ga, Madonna, the multiculturalists, and the wicked, and declare homosexuality to be normal.
It is wicked, it destroys nations, it spreads disease, and destroys nations.
You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own truth. Regardless of what you think, homosexuality will play a hand in the destruction of this nation.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:50pmGod hates homosexuality, called it an abomination, and God’s people should stand with the Bible, and call homosexuality for what it is.
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peregrin5
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:03pmGod damn, how dare these gay degenerates demand to be treated like actual human beings! We should collar them and put them into filth camps where they belong for spitting on the name of God! We shouldn’t be normalizing their behavior by hiring them for jobs or even allowing them to purchase food or wear clothes. They’re just animals!
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ConservativeFirst
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:05pmI agree with you 100%. I do not understand why Ellen being in an advertisement is a big deal. It isn’t like she is pushing her agenda or views on anyone in the commercial. It is things like this that give the Conservatives a bad name….. Maybe I need to change my name to FiscalConservativeFirst?
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ThatsJustCrazyTalk
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:10pmWell, I’m a FLAMING LIBERAL and am very concerned! I’m concerned that anybody these days can claim anything, and think people are supposed to take it as Truth. Just because someone says, “I’m a Conservative and See Nothing Wrong Here” doesn’t mean we’re supposed to believe you’re Conservative.
Also, I’m offended that people are claiming to be Conservative and saying. “Ellen Is What a Gay Should Be Like.” First off, there is no such thing as “gay.” Sexuality is a choice. There is no “gay gene.”
I will agree, this commercial does seem tame compared to others in the past. However, I’m pretty sure OMM is simply trying to keep the focus on JC Penny’s “pro-SSM” agenda. JC Penny is one of the biggest supporters of SSM amendments around the US. How soon we forget the “My Two Dad’s” ad’s for Fathers Day earlier this year: http://www.sheknows.com/parenting/articles/961979/jcpenney-fathers-day-ad-normalizes-gay-parenting
s/n: I’m not really a Flaming Liberal, I just claim to be on when I feel it can benefit my point.
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red_white_blue2
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:13pmI support you on that. They are free to choose who they want as a spokesperson. She is free to be their spokesperson. We are free to either like it or not, and we are free to gage our actions accordingly as we see fit if at all. Case closed. Next more pressing issue please!
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lowerclassrepublican
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:19pmI have no problem with her and no one else should. I have a problem with all the straight peoples indoctrination of our kids into homosexual life styles. Being in Hollywood, TV shows, and worst our schools. Picking on her hurts the rest of us. Make us look little and small minded.
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:20pmRANGER1965, you’re right about capitalism. Yes, they’ll drop Ellen if her advertisements. Of course! They are in the profit making business. JC Penny isn’t going to keep a spokesperson who loses them more business than they gain. No company would.
Ellen’s an interesting case though. I don’t watch a lot of TV and have never seen her show, although I have seen snippets on TV. She’s an incredibly likeable personality and presents nothing but a positive image. She even got a lot of complimentary posts on this website.
But you’re right. She’s openly gay. There are people who find that offensive and a deal-breaker despite how likeable a person is otherwise. That’s fine. So JC Penney is betting that Ellen’s personal appeal to those who aren’t offended by what she does in the privacy of her bedroom is going to help them more than hurt them. Good point.
But you also say that JC Penney is “thumbing their nose at Christians.” You really mean to say Christians like you. A lot of Christians are gay, and a lot of Christian really don’t care who other people love, and a lot of Christians simply don’t hate people who are gay.
Next time think you speak for all Christians, think again. You’re delusional if you think you can proclaim what all Christians believe or how all Christians think. Ranger, you only speak for yourself.
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Runpainfultruth
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:26pmMe and my wife agree this is not a controversy. This is why we lost the election! Groups like this make conservatives look bigoted! We don’t care if someone is gay. I will be voting with my wallet and getting some of those nifty buttons.
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oldratboy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:40pmWhat a crappy example for a “christian” organization. She is a person for Christ’s sake. She is a child of God. Leave her alone!
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TheePolitinator
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:45pmYeah well i do. just like many during Hitlers day you are too dumb to see you are being used for an agenda.
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freedomnetworker
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 9:57pmI watched it and have no issues nor do i see the problem in the clip.
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sooguy
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 10:03pmDitto….people taking issue with this ad have a whole lot more issues with themselves, and need help.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 10:13pm@GETRIGHT
What does it mean that she would “try to push her lifestyle on you”?
You can only let her do what you let her do.
Who cares if she constantly talked about being gay and other stuff?
it’s no different then someone who continually talks about Jesus, and their faith. Do you care when Christians continually try to push their “lifestyle” on other people?
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sugarfree
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 10:39pmAgree. I like her. I may not agree with her lifestyle, but I still like her. Love and prayer is going to change a whole lot more than boycotts are.
Besides-this is the first commercial I have heard to say “Merry Christmas”! There’s alot to be said for that alone!
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Cosmo 1976
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 10:54pmif people are like this woman we wood have a better country….when i saw her pull her chackbook out and put her money were her mouth and haert is…on TV show i think it was for $ 100,000 most show biz people just show up and thats it BIG DEAL…this person dose not…what people do in there bedrooms is there biz not mine you act like a fool about it then you just a fool. with sowuch going on plz find the things that realy matter…
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 11:38pmRunpainfultruth posts, “Me and my wife agree this is not a controversy. This is why we lost the election! Groups like this make conservatives look bigoted! We don’t care if someone is gay.”
Run, you may be the only person on this website who understands why Republicans lost the last election. Intolerance. And it’s the same reason they’ll lose the next election two years from now.
Good post.
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Ohello
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 11:44pmI find ED to be offensive in all that he/she does. Remember Barney Frank, Anderson Cooper, Elena Kalgan, Rosie O’Donnell, are in bed with the destruction of the family using the GLBT agenda.
The biggest offense however was committed by the homosexual Maynard Keynes. The homosexual who convinced naive Librerals that deficit spending creates wealth. Homosexuals lie to themselves to justify their perversions and find no sin in lying to everyone else about whatever issue advances their selfish interest. Parents beware the homosexual teachers and preachers. Mothers beware the lesbian Girl Scout leaders. Citizens beware the lying politicians particularly the sexually perverse.
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DeepintheHeart
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 11:57pmI agree. What’s the big deal? I don’t watch her show, and the ad’s lame, but I’m not joining any boycott.
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ArchaicSEAL
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 11:57pmAgreed as well. I am a Christian conservative and I see nothing wrong with this advertisement. If she chooses to be homosexual that is between her and God. The ad was fairly straight forward and had nothing really controversial in it. It even had “Merry Christmas America” at the end. I see nothing wrong with this.
Look, in the end, if the vast majority of America wants to become liberal, they will become liberal and it seems that the majority of America has chosen to continue heading in that direction. In the end, accountability will have to be made with God just as it happened with Israel long ago. The best we can do is keep standing up and getting involved with what is right and just and doing so in an honorable way. So that when the day comes that you stand before the Lord, you can at least say you tried…
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Merry52277
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:07amDitto, I agree with your statement. I am a mother of 3 and I love JCPenney. They generously offered free haircuts for kids kindergarten thru sixth grade during the back to school season this year, and I also saved a ton of money on school clothes along with the money saved on haircuts. The store seemed to go out of their way to make the kids clothes super affordable this year. So, the fact that they have a spokesperson that presents herself with class and respect doesn’t bother me a bit.
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LightOnAHill
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:58amWho likes Satire: we should boycott all opennly gay people, in fact don’t shop anywhere a gay person might shop. they should be put in reservations and left to fend for themselves, away from the rest of civilization. Why do we even acknowlege gay people realy exist, ignore them and they will go away. After all, their sins are really the only sins God has issues with, the rest of us get a pass.
Really… come on people. I like Ellen and distain homosexuality, so i know it’s possible. It’s a good thing all sinners are much more than just their sins; even if they don’t see their actions as sins. And, by the way, where in this commercial, or any JCPenny commercial featuring Ellen, is homosexuality promoted. It isn’t even mentioned. So why the problem?
If your logic is that any sin of the spokesman is being promoted by their mere presence then you shouldn’t shop or buy from or participate in anything that is not soley endorsed by Jesus himself. Perfection is a hard standard to hold any human being to.
I certainly don’t think Christ feels the same as you nay-sayers. He hasn’t stopped loving her and probably appreciates her humor as much, if not more than I do.
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alumin
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:17amI agree – I’m Christian and conservative and I don’t see what’s supposed to be so offensive about this ad!
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andrew36
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 3:29amRangerskippy, god also looks down on adultury, sex before marriage, stealing, etc etc do you spend your time rallying against anyone that has sex with married people, sex before marriage or shoplifts etc etc or do you get the right to pick and choose what part of the bible you believe and what parts you dont believe. You seriously believe a god who is suppose to be all loving and caring thinks we should persecute a group of people for being different, what do you believe god wants us to do, line them up against a walll and shoot them. Seriously you right wing religous nuts just need to F&^% off, you have no f&*^%$ idea what god wants you just tell everyone what you believe he wants based on your own fears and prejudices.
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DYNA
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 3:31amNo where in the Bible does it say the world will love you if you are in Christ. When the world hates Jesus the world will definitely hate His own.
Actually being a friend of the world is hostility towards God. Those who love their life in this world will lose it, and those who hate their life in this world will find it. Those who are, who will be, and remain in Christ overcome the world as they are not of it.
Those who think being Christian means adapting to the world in order to get along with everyone are not of the Holy Spirit. This is not religion. His Holy Spirit is real and has been sent to bear witness.
The world has already been condemned. It is already under the curse of the law of sin and death.
God sets before us life or death, blessings or curses. He suggests you choose life that you might live.
Not everyone will believe and take it. Jesus already accomplished what is necessary to have this Life.
It has to be taken. Those who take it want a way out of sin, they do not want to practice it.
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raderby
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 3:42amI say aye, too.
Anyone suspect that the OMM is backed and run by leftists to make conservatives out to be knuckle draggers? Can’t believe OOM is that daft.
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Simonne
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 4:28amI really like Ellen so I don’t understand why anyone would be upset over the ad because she is gay. I certainly don’t care about anyone’s sexual preference anyway.
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 5:25amIt’s your dollar, if you don’t want to spend it at JCP then don’t. To hell with homos!
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 5:29amDEECEE — Amen!
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MS02134
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 5:47amI agree. I’m economically to the right of Attila the Hun, but really like the fact that JC Penney has chosen a GBLT person as their spokesperson. For too many years, the media painted GBLT people in a very negative light, so it’s refreshing to see them portrayed in a positive way.
I don’t shop at JC Penney much, but I’m going to stop in thanks to their attitudes.
I think that Christians need to lighten up, and need to start practicing some of the toleration and love taught by Jesus.
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 5:57amBottom line: I treat gays like bees, they don’t bother me and I don’t bother them… This country and this planet have far worse things to worry about, i.e. Iran with nukes, federal bankruptcy, etc.
Until the FIRE AND BRIMSTONE FALLS!! Soddom and Gomorrah were recorded as an example for US! If you read your Bible you will find that the cities would have been spared had just TEN non homos could have been found. That was not the case, the whole city was corrupt, and the cities were DESTROYED. Allowing the homos to multiply will lead to this same scenario and WE will be destroyed.
A little leaven leavens the whole lump!
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BrianM
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 6:18amWTH? She’s funny 1 out of 5 times and the one time she gets a smile out of me you give her hell for it? OMM needs to unwad their panties. Gays are not going away and nothing…NOTHING about that commercial is offensive…even to “little people”. If you can’t laugh, you are screwed people. Merry Christmas! …brian
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Geowchap
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 6:30amDitto Kad.
No harm done.
Even those offended should pay attention to bigger problems.
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HappyConservative
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 7:24amI have no problem with Ellen DeGeneres. I have always loved her type of humor – she always cracks me up unlike so many other un-funny comedians out there. What OMM is doing is the big reason why the conservative movement is getting virtually shut down. We have to accept that this is a changing world and not shove our values down other people’s throats. If you don’t like a company’s spokesperson and decide not to patronize that company – fine. That is a personal choice. But calling for a boycott is just a bit too much.
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amerbur
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 8:29amI agree. I am offended that someone would complain.
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ktmrider1
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 9:03ami’m normal and homosexuality is mental illness
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obamapoop
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 10:15amAgreed. Further, as a Christian Jesus wants us to love all people and I would love to invite Ellen to church. God is the only one to pass judgement on our fellow man/woman. Christians
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TROONORTH
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 10:45amI can tell you, from the country in which Santa lives ( Canada) that neither Santa nor any other person with a minimum of two active brain cells is the least bit concerned. I am not threatened, insulted, turned off, or in the least bit put out by this. It’s Christmas for the love of God! Can’t we put that crap behind us for just a few weeks? We can get back to hating each other on, say, the 27′th of December (that way we can enjoy boxing day sales before reverting to Neanderthals)
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EllenF
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 10:48amIt’s amazing how much more tolerant people are of homosexuals since I was in high school (80′s). I think it’s a good thing. I’m not gay, but reading comments from folks that clearly hate homosexuals, turns my stomach. They aren’t just gays, they’re people. Sisters, brothers, uncles, aunts, etc. Can’t we just love them as people and accept that if god has a problem with them, god will handle it when they meet him?
I don’t claim to be a bible scholar, but as homosexuality is not included in the Ten Commandments, I wonder if, in biblical times, homosexuality was wrong as god was making sure that Abraham had more descendants than stars in the sky? I don’t think we have an under population problem now.
I would love it if we, the conservatives that don’t spend our time hating others, just believe in individual rights and making this country great again for our children, could find a way to separate ourselves from from the haters.
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sta
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 11:05amI’m a heterosexual, married female and I have my own house to clean up. I don’t have stones to throw. Personally, I don’t shop at JC Penny because I can’t AFFORD to, so while I don’t care for the homosexual agenda pushed on my family, I have much bigger fish to fry. Well actually I don’t. I have some ground meat to fry.
Has anyone looked at the economy lately?
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Amarizi Psycho
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 11:40am@ Deecee
You are too easily offended. The ad says nothing about agreeing with her lifestyle.
Second, if you think rationally, you actually believe gays/lesbians WANT to be a target for discrimination? Most I know, just want to be left alone and make a living.
I think supporting an American corporation that provides for american jobs would be a positive. JCP has done nothing that is offensive. Ellen doesn’t push her beliefs on others, and I think that’s refreshing.
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NJONY
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 11:44amI don’t watch Ellen because she promotes the gay lifestyle. I don’t hate gays but I do not want them flaunting their sin. I do not want my kids to think it is ok to be gay. God has a better plan for them. I just don’t get the gay lifestyle anyway.
I don’t know why JC Penny would choose Ellen as a representative when only 4 percent of Americans are gay. Why would they take a chance at offending their customers? They are hurting anyway and the last two times I was in the store I could not find anything to wear. Maybe there goal is to corral the gays as their unique customers.
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Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 11:49amthere is nothing in the ad that peddles gayness to the public. All those against it, and angry about it just because it is a gay person is what gives it that power. I do agree that people do have the right to not support JC Penny by shopping somewhere else.
Ellen is a decent person, and I think the gay community should take notes from her. She is gay, Gay is not her. I never ever feel the pushing of gayness with Ellen. Madcow on the other hand totally has the gay activist vibes. Gayness owns her, she doesn’t own her gayness……
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wvernon1981
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:08pmDee we, why should anyone care what your god thinks about an issue? because he carries a big stick and he’ll beat you with it mercilessly for eternity? What makes gods position on homosexuality moral? What does your god appeal to as his source of morality?
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pludge
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:21pmAmen! And what is a gay talk show host? She is a talk show host that happens to be gay. I have never seen a story about straight talk show host Rush Limbaugh or Jay Leno or anyone else. Whats the difference? She’s not selling sex. How is this any better than the left, winning about Donald Trump on Macy’s adds. In the words of the Great philosopher Rodney King “Can’t we just all get along”.
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Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:52pmOh yeah and I am not Pro-Gay by any means. I am even slightly homophobic in the sense that i don’t care to hang out with Gay people…But I am not Anti-Gay either, they have a right to exist as I do.
I see gayness (on the activist scale) as a religion. People who are part of this typically has their life revolve around the lifestyle, and any group where the members life styles revolve around the the subject is religious, and the government should not support or infringe on its rights to exist.
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Truthbeliever2
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:59pmRight on RANGERSKIPPY. Alot of so called Christians keep saying it’s not their place to judge. Hello? Anybody home? GOD HAS JUDGED IT! IT IS WRITTEN! You don’t need to judge it YOUR GOD ALREADY HAS.
So all of you so called Christians who condone Ms. Degenerates behavior because of your lack JUDGEMENT are TOTALLY IGNORING YOUR GODS JUDGEMENT ON THE MATTER. The difference between Christians like me and Christians like you is that I actually UNDERSTAND and follow what is has been Judged an ABOMINATION. Do you get that??? Probably not. Most of you are luke warm and will be spit out of his mouth.
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smokeyridgerunner
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:01pmAny woman who would eat another woman undershorts is not a person.
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rowanlee
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:15pmI agree with you fully. They are actually making themselves look bigoted. And I think they are in this case. DeGeneres is not flaunting her lifestyle. This is only going to hurt their movement.
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2gether
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:17pmIf you don’t want to shop somewhere, do it for the right reason. Their American Heritage brand is produced in China!…Seriously! I am guessing they are laughing all the way to the bank. I am also guessing that 80% of the products hanging on their racks is produced in China. Look, you may not agree with her lifestyle, but that doesn’t mean you act like a fool about it. Ellen is a pretty good humanitarian. She is one of the few comics today that doesn’t insult other human beings…except herself…and call it humor. Pick the right fight, my friends. This isn’t it.
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fedup ohio
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:48pmI too am a conservative, middle aged, male. And I find her to VERY offensive. Obviously, you don’t understand the word conservative. She is a low life, and she is not at all funny. I was in the team meeting watching the broadcast when Ron Johnson announced that Ellen was going to be the company’s new spokesperson. Everyone in the meeting just could not believe it, this person did not represent the clientele of the company. This is the same time that they told employee’s that there would be no raises this year. (Need to pay Ellen’s muti-million paycheck) They also started changing job titles for the same job, and then cut pay for the employee. ( some where cut as much as 50%). This is when I put in my notice and resigned. I will not work for any company that tries to push the gay agenda down America’s throat. J.C.Penney’s bottom line is reflecting the stupid move that Ron Johnson has implemented. J.C. Penney’s is a candidate for a take over.
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mr.goodvibe
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 2:04pmMy big question is how she gets all of these hot girlfreinds, she must be well hung in lebesian terms.
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USAMama
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 2:24pmAs my very wise pastor once said “To all those who say ‘I can’t go to Church cause it’s full of hypocrites’ I say your right! That’s exactly who we are, hypocrites and sinners, so come on and join us! You’ll fit right in!”
We all fall short of the glory of God. There is none righteous, no not one. Even Jesus was criticized for hanging out with sinners, are we going to hold JC Penny to a higher standard then Christ Himself? Is homosexuality a sin? Yes. But so is pride and self righteousness. Anybody who preaches the law is automatically a hypocrite because none of us are capable of living it out perfectly. If we were then Christ died in vain.
There are not varying degrees of sin. We are all sinners and I will not turn someone away for their sin because I would not want Jesus to turn me away for mine. They don’t need ridicule, they need Jesus.
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mbean
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 2:40pmAgreed no issue.
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icebergslim27
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 3:18pm@ DEECEE- Mind your own business. You’re a fascist wolf in conservative sheep clothing. You believe in your absolute truth so much that you think you have the right to force other people to live that way too. That’s not a classical conservative position, it’s an OH DEAR GOD progressive position. I can’t say it any better than him so I’ll just post a link to it, here’s my opinion on right wing opposition to gay marriage. None other than one of the funniest comics today Louis CK
Warning- strong language http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtJ_sDRRVVI
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ltb
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 3:50pmJC Penny’s stock has plummeted since it decided to go “all gay.” I love Ellen Degeneres, but just don’t really care to know about her sex life.
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wfgal01
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 4:31pmI am a straight, conservative, christian mother, and wife! I actually liked the commercial, and think she is rather funny! I do not and will never agree with this lifestyle, however it is not my place to judge! Judgement can only be given by God. It is your right to boycott a store for reason’s you believe in, however I will not stop shopping at JCP for this reason!
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Thornyrose13
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 4:50pmunless the commercial is pushing some sort of objectionable agenda, what is the big deal? If everyone boycotts everything and everyone that offends them, our whole system would probably shut down. I reserve boycotting businesses to those who go beyond the pale. Jane Fonda is about the only person who has done that for me.
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Rald277
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 5:40pmI agree with you both. I found nothing in that ad remotely offensive. Is she not allowed to work because she is gay? She is an actress playing a part and collecting a check. Sounds like America to me.
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TERossi
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 5:45pmYou also didn’t add, Indoctrinated Useful Idiot for Cultural Marxism to your laundry list of labels.
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TERossi
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 5:50pmJHRUSKY
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:29pm
@ truthbeliever2
“Here is my response: Read your bible. If you have one. Perversion/Abomination either is fine with me. I will waste no more breath on you. It would be akin to having a discussion with a stone.”
Oh, I have one. And I do read it. Mine, however, says I am not to judge. Mine also says I am to be my brother’s keeper and love others. Perhaps yours has misprints.
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Ah, another know-nothing Indoctrinated Useful Idiot for Cultural Marxism blathering about “reading” and “misprints.” What was that you said about “judging”? Oh that’s right! Like all Useful Idiots using any form of judgement doesn’t apply to your agitprop. Magically, you can both judge and be judgmental while claiming to do neither. You can’t blather on about books you’ve never read and lie about owning them, while posturing knowledge you’ll never have.
Sadly you’ve taken lack of judgment to be a moral imperative, the most salient feature of a Useful Idiot.
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dwilco77
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 8:54pm@JRHusky
Your judging of gays, and your obvious hatred is about as un-Biblical, and un-Christian as you can get. I am a Conservative, Christian male, and I find your behavior an abomination. If you really read your Bible, as you claim to do in your posts, you must have skipped the majority of it concerning judging others. That is for God to do – not you. Jesus taught Love, and actually hung out with what was considered the dregs of society at the time, in order to save them. Your arguments are weak, and you do have some praying to do. Hopefully, you can get on your knees, and be forgiven when you humble yourself before your Lord.
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ERP
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 9:26pmI’m more offended that they used the term “holiday” instead of Christmas. As long as JCP and Ellen don’t put down Christianity or any other religion then I think this is much to do about nothing. Last time I checked, we’re heading towards a cliff of the fiscal persuasion. Maybe we should concentrate more on that, huh?
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Mamagriz
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 10:43pmI believe it’s against God’s law to be homosexual as well, but I also believe it is worse to be an unloving, uncaring, hypocritical sack of religious boloney. Here we are, talking about how Christian we are to throw the hammer down on others because of their outward sin, and we roll around in our inward ones. Look, I believe that you should tell people when the Word calls their actions sinful, but I also believe that when you refuse to LOVE them, and treat them with dignity, you have made yourself lower than the sin you judge. In other words, we better be careful because I believe the Lord will accept a repentant, but struggling homosexal ahead of a mean-spirited, pompous Christian windbag any day and twice on Sunday. Don’t act so offended just because someone sins differently than you do, because from what I’ve read, we are ALL going to get there smelling like smoke.
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Beck_Art_Obama_In_PeePee
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:16amDeeCee – “You … point your “morally humanistic” noses up in the air while spewing crap like “what’s the problem?”, but you know full well what the problem is.”
Well said!
“The Bible says in 2nd Peter chapter 3, ‘Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers [walking after their own lusts]‘. Did you know there are people that scoff at the [Holy] Bible? The reason they scoff, it says, is because of their lust. They don’t want God telling them what to do. That’s the bottom line every single time. … The Bible says the scoffers are willingly ignorant ['For this they are willingly ignorant of']. ‘Willingly ignorant’ — in the Greek that means ‘dumb on purpose’.” -Kent Hovind, “The Creatiion Series”
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Dr Vel
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:17amI think Ellen has every right to make a living and protesting over this is absurd. I am Christian, believe her lifestyle is sin, and know quite well God loves Ellen more than anyone out there protesting over her. Leave her be. Allow her to live in peace and work in her chosen profession. Nor do I see any reason to boycott the store, it is stupidity in the extreme and a bad example of how people of God should behave. Let he or she without sin cast the first stone. Hypocrites setting a bad example. I do have a problem with the last line in the title of this story. Can anyone tell me how to ‘vote with my wallet’, when the corrupt thieving liberal politicians have stolen everything in it?
They did not even leave me my old Blockbuster card.
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sasquatch08
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 2:06amI’m the same, and also finding absolutely nothing offensive about this ad…
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GETLIFE
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 5:07amInteresting that the couple projects such a male/ female thing….
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mike-MT
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 8:48amI also agree. If Ellen were shown having sex with a female elf, I would have a problem with it. Showing hate and rejection only hurts the Christian cause.
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Annuit Coeptis
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 10:42amI’m fighting hard to hold back my sarcasm on this one. This seems to me the equivalent of the angry mob setting out for Frankenstein’s monster with pitchforks and torches – “It’s an abomination!!!” and the like. Look, I agree with you. It’s wrong.
I do believe the Holy Bible is just that – Holy. Set apart with no equal – the Word of God given to man. And, I know what the Bible says about homosexuality and believe it. But, I don’t believe that being hateful is the answer and more than I believe that acceptance is the answer. I don’t have to accept homosexuality as the right way to live, but I do have to accept God’s command to love my neighbor as myself. He didn’t say to love the Christians or Jews or Catholics or just straight people but all people.
I don’t agree with homosexuality, but as best I could tell, there was no reference to homosexuality in the commercial. Unless I tell my children, “You see that woman on the TV? Yeah, she’s gay. She likes to be romantic with other women. I don’t like that, so we’re not going to shop at the store she’s promoting even though they have nice clothes at pretty decent prices – and money’s tight.” I’ll tell you what, unless you agree with Islam, stop buying gasoline from the middle east. Also, never ever eat any fast food, including Chic-fil-a, or buffets because they encourage gluttony. And, don’t use any form of electronics made in China unless you are in favor of child labor and Communism. Mkay?
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dakz
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:06pm@RangerSkippy
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
Conclusion
The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.
I am a Libertarian. to each his own. Politics need to stay out of the boardroom AND the bedroom. What someone wants to do with their life, as long as they are not harming someone else, is their business.
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John Moser2
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:14pmIf she was Rosie O’Donnell that would be cause for offense.
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hemi49er
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:47pmThank you. There is nothing wrong here. This constant childish ranting about anyone not conforming to some Christian idiots idea of “right” or “decent” is making real issues fall by the wayside.
REAL Christians need to ignore the bigots among us and love those who are not like us. Jesus told us that loving our friends any idiot can do. We are to love those who hate us, those unlike us, and those who do not know him.
C’mon folks, far too many Christians are sounding more and more like whiny liberals with each passing day.
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LBJDIDIT1963
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 2:38pmCan Ellen get Bill Mahr-sion lost for a few years? I will buy JCP stuff, I promise!
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lynnea1
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 3:06pmI agree 100%! Ellen does so much for other people and animals, also she looks for talented people and tries to help jumpstart their careers, her sex life is not our concern. She’s not one of those people **** or hetero, that goes around flaunting their sexuality. JC Penneys has amazing prices on good quality merchandise, and thats all we need to be worried about. We have enough to do worrying about our own salvation.
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ChevalierdeJohnstone
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 5:00pmSame here. Also, as a Christian who supports the view of the Church on gay marriage, I don’t see where the problem is. I see a funny, personable actress who happens to be a lesbian surrounded with a bunch of Northern European pagan symbology. Don’t get me wrong, I like the wreaths and trees and candy canes and pretend elves and all that and I’ve got some of those sorts of decoration at my house this time of year – but there’s nothing “Christian” about it. It’s not like she’s making advertisements for crucifix-shaped ******. The problem here is a lot of Christians don’t understand what Christmas is about. Christmas is not Santa hats and presents, people.
The Odinists should totally protest this though.
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FROTHYDISCHARGE
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 10:03pmBingo. What’s the problem here? She’s an elf. She didn’t say anything about gay straight or anything. She’s a person playing an elf. She’s not in your face. Relax it’s Christmas. Love thy Neighbor. She is your Neighbor.
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begreen
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 2:11amShe’s a freak!
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freedomofspeech
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 8:35amJCPenny has the only clothes that fit and last the whole school year for string bean boys, now can you guess what sexual prefrence I choose?
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Ihaveshrugged
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 8:43amI pretty much agree with all that you said. Ellen has never been one to try and shove her sexuality down the public’s throat. I don’t approve of her lifestyle in my personal view, but overall she seems very nice and non-bitter/angry/confrontational about her sex life (unlike say Dan Savage) so I have no problem with her. I thought the commercial was cute.
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 8:56amI agree, leave Ellen alone – This us against them mentally just gives the gays more credibility in the younger generations minds (as feeble as the be)! Let’s live and let live and choose only the battles that matter. If you fight the entire front you will never win – Don’t believe me? Ask any of our Gay Generals they’ll tell you!
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Leader1776
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 10:48am@DEECEE
” ………….. to whom fear God”. This is the attitude that makes otherwise believers walk away from the evangelical movement. God is to be ‘feared’ not loved, followed, cherished. Its like all the (not so) deeply philosophical discussions you have as a teenager about God/religion which usually devolve into: well, if a God would allow that [insert whatever here] why should I follow him anyway. We fear murderous dictators. We love those that are good and promote that in their beliefs and actions. Which is your God?
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Xyskalla
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 10:59amI am also a straight, conservative, middle-aged male, and a Christian, and I agree with you 100%, too, kadster01. If they waited to find a spokesperson who was without sin, they’d be waiting an awfully long time. I’m too concerned about my own sins to worry about someone else’s, my own sins stink pretty badly. But for anyone else who realizes they’re a sinner like me, I’m happy to point the way to the remedy, and His name is Jesus.
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Shifty6
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:07amTo the OMM organization: are your sins not as equally damnable by God?
Just because you’re not gay, doesn’t mean you’re not a sinner.
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Xyskalla
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:15amGloriousTKS, That was a marvelous post, it expressed my feelings exactly. Thank you!
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Xyskalla
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 12:16pm@rangerskippy
Yes, God hates homosexuality. But God also hates heterosexual lust outside of marriage. He hates pride, He hates selfishness, He hates slander, gossip, laziness, lying, complaining, greed, thanklessness, rudeness, a lack of compassion, addictions, worrying, doubt, impatience, worldliness, the list goes on and on. Self-righteous and judgmental. Jesus had a lot to say about them, and it wasn’t pretty.
And I can say for a certainty that I hit on a few of your sins. I hit on some of mine, too.
Why do you focus your hate on homosexuality? Is it because it’s one of the few sins you’re not tempted with, so it makes you come out looking better? You should focus that energy against your own sins. What are your sins, rangerskippy? Tell us. Would you like us to be as condemning and uncompassionate toward you for your sins as you are to homosexuals? Your sins are as bad as theirs in the eyes of God, as are mine.
Others have pointed out that Jesus ate with sinners, and so should you. And He didn’t act like it was repugnant or distasteful while He was doing it, either. He felt genuine compassion for them, compassion that saw past their sin and on their need. Remember, the point of the Prodigal Son was actually a rebuke to the people who had the attitude of the older brother. Re-read Luke 15 from beginning to end. The parable doesn’t end when the son returns home. The last half of the parable focuses on the brother’s response. Jesus hates sin, not sinners.
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Xyskalla
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 12:25pm@ThatsJustCrazyTalk
Sexuality is a choice? You’ll have to prove that to me. I don’t remember choosing to be heterosexual. I just am. My sexual attraction has always been toward women (I’m a male).
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luckykeys
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 1:18pm“Ellen DeGeneres is what I wish more gay people were like. She has class, respect, dignity, not to mention she’s hilarious.”
Just read this sentence: “Ellen DeGeneres is what I wish more people were like. She has class, respect, dignity, not to mention she’s hilarious.” What a world it would be!
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perry1980
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:51pmJC Penney is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy right now. My guess is that by March they will file for it.
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bannedfromCNN
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:08pmI pray this pushes them over the edge.
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:55pmThey’ve been courting the trendy homosexual demographic for months now and it hasn’t paid off. Their earnings have been abysmal.
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Mudd
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:50pmBannedfromcnn. So, your praying that a lot of people lose their jobs, that the nations’s economy will be taken down a notch, that more people will go on public assistance? Keep up the good work, Obama Loves You.
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GeorgieJo
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:51pmGays won’t shop at JC Penny.
Kartrashians are pushing SEARS customers away.
Ellen who? Never saw her show and could care less if she cures AIDS.
Just another Gay interrupting Christmas.
JC Penny will go down the drain.
FLUSH.
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Cosmo 1976
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 11:11pmATTN Banned
wow you need help …. seek it fast
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iampraying4u
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 9:47amThe name says it all degenerate
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Tri-ox
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:50pmJ.C. Penney is in big trouble – their sales have plummeted over the last year and were down 26% in the third quarter – IF they don’t have good Christmas sales and don’t turn things around quick – their future is in question. J.C. Penney can’t afford to lose any more customers – Ellen DeGeneres seems a slightly risky choice for their Christmas advertising. BUT – I have to say that it is wonderful to hear “MERRY CHRISTMAS” from a retailer instead of some “happy holidays” crap.
Any retailer who says “MERRY CHRISTMAS” is on the right track.
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jhrusky
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:43pmWho cares if they use Ellen in a commercial? They’re not espousing homosexuality, are they? Ellen is witty and classy and downright funny. She’s a well-known comedienne that people can relate to (not sexually, but humanly) and I understand she is quite generous and caring for others.
If we are going to measure who we do business with based upon the personal lives of actors/actresses who they hire for their advertisements, then we better open up all brand new stores because none of the current ones are going to meet the perfection standards of the most vocal “christians” out there.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:07pmsince when did we start expecting retail companies to give you christian fulfillment in your personal life?
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Walkabout
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:24pmjhrusky
Tri-Ox merely said they though it was a risky to use Ellen in commercials due to their financial position. They did not say they were boycotting or that they encouraged people to boycott. One could argue that merely stating this is an implied threat or endorsement of the boycott & not their analysis/opinion. But one would be hard put to argue that given the last statement of
“Any retailer who says “MERRY CHRISTMAS” is on the right track.”
My take is that Tri-Ox would shop at JC Penney
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:49pmHUSKY…you bore me with your piety, you really do.
Penney’s has been courting the homosexual crowd for months but it hasn’t paid off.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/item/11642-jc-penney-father%E2%80%99s-day-ad-features-children-with-homosexual-%E2%80%9Cdads%E2%80%9D
Scroll up for a link to a Forbes report I posted about Penney’s and how this gambit has paid off for them.
Thanks for playing champ.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:44pmAvengerK
Please be a little more respectful of jhrusky (“Thanks for playing champ”).
He is earnest & is not sarcastic like “Moderation is Best” or just plain disruptive like Encinom, Monicne, MajasDad & others.
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Beck_Art_Obama_In_PeePee
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:37pmjhrusky – “Who cares if they use Ellen in a commercial? They’re not espousing homosexuality, are they?”
The answer to your question is … [drum roll & cymbal hit] … yes. (You seem to have “gotten” to **** connection, yes? That is what advertising is all about.)
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Beck_Art_Obama_In_PeePee
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:40pmEven TheBlaze gets it enough to censor out **** (hòmó) …
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MONICNE
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:52pmThis is actually pretty funny – AvengerK/KregnevA – the prissy and intolerant AusTROLLian – has decided to attack JHRUSKY as a “troll.”
A/K just cannot help but to keep adding “anyone who thinks for themselves” to his little list of “troll” folks who need to be slurred and debased. A/K does this while pretending to be a US citizen. (He admits being an illegal expired Green Card holder. Some say.)
Meanwhile, the Brisbane-based Walkabout tag team is now “Troll-ranking” a real American Patriot because his platypal A/K has lowered the proverbial boom… and now he’s comparing the minor trollishness of JHRUSKY to the egregious supertrollocity of their imaginary “multiple identity gang.” LOL
How long before AvenJoker and WackRoboto begin to call the target (a thinking US Patriot with stones); “ENCINOM/MONICNE/JHRUSKY/ad nausem” – gainsay me that eh wot?
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Walkabout
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:21pmMONICNE
Everyone cane see there is a big difference between jhrusky polite debate style and yours, Monicne.
P.S. Your psychological ploy to try to imitate by vocabulary is cute, but does not make you endearing. Try Again shiela. :)
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 7:01amIt is simple — It is your dollar spend it where you want! NOW why would anyone shop at any of these type of stores, where they take something worth $30 and charge $60 for it only to have a 50% OFF sale and expect the original $30 that they intended to get in the first place, These type of stores are inflated BS and will soon die off.
Walmart is the beast with iron teeth, who can make war against her?
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fedup ohio
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 9:29pmEllen is NOT witty or classy. Really? And that is NOT based on her being gay or not. I find her humor very dry. Steven Tyler was funnier than she was on American Idol, and he isn’t even a comedian. If this is your true assessment of her comedic skills, it is no wonder that you can’t tell right from wrong.
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Owt_Raged
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:48pmI am not at all offended by the ad. However, I stopped my association with JCP when they put out the gay Mothers Day catalog.
Everyone has a right to free association, even JCP.
Use your right as you see fit.
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searcher619
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:55pmHow did that hurt you? I’m curious as to why it bothered you.
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TumbleBumble
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:27pmOWT-RAGED ~
Same with me. Followed up with the similar Father’s Day ad. I have always shopped there on Black Friday but not this year. So JCPenney having Ellen on their commercials will only keep me away. I spend my money at places that are traditionally family friendly and offer items that aren’t made in China. Seek and you shall find! :)
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00100111
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:38pmSearcher, it isn’t required that we have to be hurt by something in order to disassociate with it. It is allowed to simply not agree with something to say “I’m not going there anymore.” You do realize this, yes?
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usedCZARsalesman
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:50pmSEARCHER, did OWL say it “hurt” him/her? I’m can’t speak directly for OWL, but it turned me off from JCP for the same reason many on here have already posted. It is simply psychological fact that the more the youth culture is taught to show “tolerance” to deviance, the more young people fall into that deviance. While I (and ever individual parent is) responsible for my own children, I still feel the need to do what I can’t to protect other children that do not have the proper guidance like my children do. Every single time a person that is openly gay is given the public spotlight, it spreads the notion that their lifestyle is normal and acceptable, but it is NOT.
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encinom
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:53pmComments like yours and the actions of OMM do a great service for this nation, they serve to remind the nation just how bigotted and out of touch the Conservative Christians truly are.
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searcher619
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:57pmI just don’t get how you can be upset over something that in no way has any sort of impact in your life or the lives of those you care about.
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Fubared
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:11pmPersonally couldn’t care as I don’t watch the tele or adverts…but if encinomom/monicener speaks up for it in a positive way, it has to be crap through and through. Thanks encinomom/monicener. Whatever you support, I won’t as you/it have proven over and over and over what a complete and utter disgrace a human can be when applied to any topic or subject.
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usedCZARsalesman
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:43pmSEARCHER…I just explained to you that it DOES harm our family and communities. Do you have teenage children? Let me tell you, the gay problem in our schools is absolutely uncontrollably rampant. I would estimate that nearly HALF of our young girls are experimenting with this abhorrent, deviant lifestyle, with no sign of slowing. Now, I don’t care how good of a parent you are, and how well you raise your children, it is VERY hard to overcome those sorts of outside influences…that being said, I WELCOME JCP to hire whomever they want, that is what freedom is all about. However, don’t think of me (us) as bigots (as encidiot labeled me) simply because I do what little I can (speak out and “vote my wallet”) to stem the tide of secularism
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almont
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 10:42pmRight is right even if everyone is against it and wrong is wrong even if everyone is for it.
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:06amENCINOM
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:53pm
Comments like yours and the actions of OMM do a great service for this nation, they serve to remind the nation just how bigotted and out of touch the Conservative Christians truly are.
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:12amENCINOM
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:53pm
Comments like yours and the actions of OMM do a great service for this nation, they serve to remind the nation just how bigotted and out of touch the Conservative Christians truly are.
You obvioulsly have not read any of the posts on this page, I guess you don’t have to since your a troll spouting off stupidity, but 90% of the Christians on here just LOVE to support Homos and there agenda. I cannot believe that there are so many **** huggers on here!
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RANGER1965
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:48pmThis is a good example of a true free market.
If gays protest Chik Fil’ A and will no longer eat there, then it stands to reason that if the gay viewpoint is shared by a majority of people that eat at Chik Fil’ A; then the company will either adopt a pro-gay stance, or be run out of business.
By the same reckoning if JC Penny’s customer base largely shares Christian values about homosexuality, then it would wise for them not to pick a homosexual spokesman.
There is nothing unfair or wrong about a boycott, or refusing to give money to a company you don’t like. For those that say, “Get over it!” why should anyone have to? If someone thinks homosexuality is a sin and doesn’t want to give a company money then they are free to do so. They are also free to get others to do so.
I will never shop in an Auto Zone again because of their stance on firearms, and how they treated one of their employees. I have told at least 45 others who also agree with me and will not shop there again.
So what’s the big deal?
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checkingbothsides
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:53pmThis is true. I’m on the left, and believe that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. If we have a right to protest and boycott Chik-fil-A for their homophobic stances, then this group has the right to boycott JCP for using Ellen.
I do think they could pick their battles better though. Ellen? I mean, who hates Ellen? Really…
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:07pmAnd I wonder about the both of you! :)
No matter how you cut it, this nation is in deep kimshe. Worrying about whether people support or don’t support some chain because they are for or against being gay seems like a really big waste of time and effort, not to mention displaying a large lack of common sense.
Sure, we have the right. No question. I just wonder about this kind of thing. I can get if a company is advocating removing your liberties from you. I don’t get it otherwise though.
And again, as was said, Ellen? Really? It’s like being mad the the nice lady next door who bakes cookies from scratch and brings them to neighbor’s homes at Christmas.
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RANGER1965
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:22pm@Ghost,
I agree, it’s polishing brass on the Titanic. BS.
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ComeTakeIt
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:25pm@checkingbothsides
I’m glad that, as a self proclaimed leftist, you seem to actually have the tolerance your side usually hypocritcally preaches for, but never gives.
I do find it funny though, that you label Chik-fil-a as “homophobic”. Not agreeing with something isn’t the same as fearing it. Are people who advocate gay marriage heterophobes? If you don’t pray to Jesus are you a “christianophobe? No you simply don’t believe in God, it doesn’t mean you have a paranoia about the existence of him or those who believe in him.
Kind of like, when a group supports traditional marriage they are labeled an “anti-gay hate group”, instead of a pro-traditional support group. Gets more people riled up to buy your magazine/newspaper if it says something about HATE at the top I guess….
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encinom
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:57pmJust don’t consider yourself a defender of liberty Ranger, if you seek to limit the rights and freedoms of one group of Americans based on out dated beliefs and fairy tales. Conservative Christains are killin ghte GOP, they are show a tolerant America, a America that is more libertarian, than it is conservative, just how bigotted the older generation is.
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RANGER1965
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:33pm@ECINOM
You really need to think about what you’re saying. Your comparing apples and oranges. If a private person makes a decision not to shop somewhere, for whatever reason, it is his/her right. If that same private person tells everyone not shop there, and many agree with him/her regardless of their reasoning it’s their right.
It doesn’t matter why, or whether you or I agree with their reasoning. If enough join this cause and it affects the business then the business needs to re-think things…or not. That is in essence the free market. it doesn’t matter whether you’re not buying because of poor service, or because you don’t like Christians, or you don’t like gays…it’s YOUR choice.
Where this becomes evil is when the State joins in, and through direct measures like bans and regulations, or through indirect measures like taxes and politics attempts to influence, or affect the free market. Then it’s not a matter of personal choice, its a matter of law created by a biased State.
In conclusion I am more an advocate of freedom than you are. Take off the blinders Ecinom
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:54pmLOL…rights and freedoms ENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO/KREGNEVA?
Let’s see…a segment of the population making up less than 2% of the population with a loud, militant and litigious lobby arm wants to convince the entire country to invesnt in their fantasies of normalcy and you think we should dump centuries of societal norms for a sliver of the population and it’s psychological disorder? Not a psychological disorder you say? Then by all means..point me to the “homosexual gene” that proves they are genetically presdisposed to be how they are.
What you’re endorsing is extortion by a loud and litigious group ENCIDIOT..not freedom..not even close to freedom.
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athiest-infedel
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:47pmToo bad people don’t have the right to not be offended but the “we hate her and you should too” is just stupid. If this kind of thing were applied to everybody you do business with you would never buy anything again. I bet most companies every christian does does business hires gays. These groups only do this kind of thing to get attention not because they really care.
btw, telling an athiest he is going to hell is like telling a christian they are going to Mordor.
Merry Christmas all!
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:54pmLOL, Mordor. Ok, that was funny.
Seriously though, I wonder how many actors/models are gay? Probably quite a few if stereotypes are remotely true. How many of them have done ads? How many of these boycotters have bought merchandise promoted by gay models/actors? The reasoning makes no sense at all.
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jhrusky
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:49pmYou’re spot on. This is the very reason I call these so-called ‘christians’ hypocrites. They will never admit their hypocrisy, though, because it blinds them. Yes, everyone has the right to protest and/or boycott whomever they wish to just the same as everyone has the right to be a flaming hypocrite. That right doesn’t mean they are just in doing either, just that they can.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:33pmYou do realize that it has been argued that The LOTR is Christian allegory?
Most everybody realized there are gays working in just about every company or corporation. But many of us believe we must war against Hollywood because they actively war against us. So to boycott a high profile lesbian is fair game. I have not paid much attention to Ellen in recent years, I don’t know if she has been obnoxious like the Rosie O’Donnell, who is an anti-gun nutbag & hypocrite (she owns a gun). So I will assume that she (Ellen) has not. Personally, if they were to go against a high profile Hollywood type, I would prefer they boycott Alex Baldwin.
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:16pmummm ATHEIST-INFEDEL (sic)? It’s spelled “infidel”. Please..if you’re going to feign being educated and enlightened above us christians…at least do it convincingly? But hey..the nifty star trek symbol of your faith that you atheists have taken on is really cool. Do you do that “live long and propser” thing with your fingers too?
I dont’ tell atheists they’re going to hell because they’re experts at creating hell on earth already.
Stalin’s Russia, Khmer Rouge, Maosist China, Hiter’s Germany..etc..etc. All vehemently and rabidly secular and humanist. Between them they’re responsible for hundreds of millons of deaths and incarcerations…why China still has gulags.
I dont’ need to tell you you’re going to hell champ….your kind have done a superlative job of giving us hell on earth.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:19pmathiest-infedel
I don;t remember the name of the book that said that LOTR was a Christian allegory, but you realize that Tolkein was a friend of C.S. Lewis who wrote the Chronicles of Narnia. Aslan of Narnia is definitely a Christlike figure. Lewis & Tolkein were a group of academic friends who would gather around & listen to each others literary endeavors, criticize them & give encouragement.
Mordor is a great place for a Christian to be. It is the valley of death & they shall fear no evil. :)
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:45pmand uh..yeah CANARYRIOTS…if homosexuals make up 64% of new cases of HIV in this country each year..then who is speading most it?
You maybe? Nah…. you just spread bullsh#t that’s your allocated task.
You’re a moron…most cases of HIV in this country are attributed to homosexuals and you even dare to attempt blame most of it on another demographic? Seriously? You’re an idiot. Stick your head back that magical app of yours that you get your wealth of knowledge from and see if it has a link to your brain….it seems to have dropped out of your skull and landed in something unpleasant.
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Beck_Art_Obama_In_PeePee
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:35pm“Tolkien’s epic rich with Christian symbols, ideals”
http://www.theinterim.com/2003/feb/21tolkien.html
“Tolkien wrote to a Jesuit friend, Rev. Robert Murray, that “The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out, practically all references to anything like ‘religion,’ to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and the symbolism.” ”
“Tolkien created a world, much like ours, and although pre-Christian, it dramatizes Christian reality. There is the fight between good and evil, there is the struggle against pride and the desire for power, there is death and resurrection and salvation (the second movie The Two Towers, is especially good at examining the idea of salvation, mercy and redemption through the story of Frodo, Samwise Gamgee and Gollum). Throughout LOTR there is the idea of providence – the sense that accidental things happen which are not really accidents but part of a larger plan.”
“Near the end of the second movie, Sam says to Frodo, “There are things that people hold onto to keep them going.” “What are we holding onto?” Frodo asks. To which Sam replies, “That there is some good in this world, and that’s worth fighting for.” ”
Let’s hold on to the good …
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Walkabout
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:07amBeck_Art_Obama_In_PeePee
Great post. I read a biography about Tolkein. If I remember correctly Murray was mentor during his youth after his father died. He was everything a Catholic priest should be.
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searcher619
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:47pm“The comedian appears in a comical Christmas commercial for the company, during which she interacts with Santa’s elves. Rather than instilling holiday cheer, OMM believes that DeGeneres’ presence in the clip, considering her sexuality, is offensive.”
WTF are these people talking about. Her very presence is “offensive?” I find their bigoted attitude offensive. BFD she’s on a JCP commercial interaction with Santa’s elves. Garbage like this is what helps make Christians look like homophobes and small minded. I would like to remind these “Christians” that their book clearly states it is not their place to judge others. It is their job to love your fellow man regardless of their sins real, perceived, or imagined. If the Christians are correct I seriously doubt Christians like THESE are destined for the heavenly gates.
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Winedude
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:59pmVery well put. Just remember than Sin is an imaginary disease created to sell you an imaginary cure.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:15pmAt least she is not parading around in leather with a whip like they do in San Francisco and trying to ram her beliefs in your face. I would have never knowm she was gay if they hadn’t put it all over tv. She is probably a good neighbor. What others do behind closed doors is nobody eles’s business. I don’t shop at JCP anyway, my wife and daughters do. It’s up to them whether they will decide to spend money there or not.
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00100111
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:46pmI don’t get it either. Like I said in a thread earlier, she’s lesbian, so what? Does she now not have the right to work? Their kids aren’t going to turn gay just because they see her on a commercial. If they don’t want to shop there, that’s fine, but this whole “Nobody else should go there either” stuff is just silly. If I don’t agree with a business’ stance on something, I just quietly don’t go there. The rest of the world doesn’t need to know my reasons. You are right, it is “christians” like this that give the rest of us a bad rep. By and large, we are not like this. It just so happens the type that are are the most vocal. Most of us just quietly live our lives, and occasionally come on here to troll :)
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mrunner
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:45pmIs she trying to convert people in the ad? Is she flaunting her homosexuality in the ad? What the hell? If she is not trying to make some sort of statement about her sexuality in the ad, and not trying living her life shoving it in front of others, what is the issue? What the heck am I missing? I am white, male, NRA, Catholic, straight and a constitutional conservative. If she is not forcing her sexual views on me- why would I, or anyone else resent her, or JCP for chosing her in their ads?
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RANGER1965
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:50pmWho cares what she is or is not trying to do.
Theres a bunch of people that don’t like homosexuals and refuse to shop at JC Pennys because they used a Homosexual spokesperson.
I will never shop at Autozone again because they fired an employee who saved a managers life with a firearm, and I’ll tell anyone who will listen the same.
This is what’s called a free market. Enjoy it.
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searcher619
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:59pmRanger:
You are quite correct. People are free to be irrationally judgmental and discriminate against someone fo something that in no way impacts them or their lives… Since you seem to think this is somehow the same thing as boycotting a business who fired a young man for doing the right thing and protecting the life of someone then there is something seriously wrong with you. What this group is doing is just as bad as people refusing to shop there simply because they used people of color in their ads.
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grimmster
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:07pm@Ranger. I agree…
What people fail to see, whether they are gay, straight or somewhere in between,it is everyones right to be offended, and to do what they feel is necessary to show it. No i dont me violence,but let those that say, “get over it” look at it like this,if a criminal has a gun to your head, and is about to pull the trigger, remember,”just get over it”………
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mrunner
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:12pm@ Ranger- not disagreeing with you- and I am staying out of AutoZone too. Free market and shoppers are welcome to do as they choose. I guess I just bristle a little when they toss that term “conservative” in. The AutoZone deal has some bearing on 2nd Ammendment and self protection, the Chik-Filet with 1st ammendment rights. People are free to boycott what they will. If people, businesses or government agencies do not violate the constitution- live and let live. No need to subsidize- but live and let live.
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RANGER1965
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:20pm@SEARCH,
You’re making a judgement call, which you are free to do. A bunch of Christians made a judgement call, which they are free to do. You think they are irrational, they think you are.
The free market will judge the right and wrong of it from an economic stance. If it hurt’s JC Pennys revenue then they will have a judgement call to make as well. If it doesn’t affect their bottom line then they are free to continue using Ellen as a spokesperson.
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Oldphoto678
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:40pmCome on ranger, there is no evidence that the wannabe hero saved anyone’s life. Must you always exaggerate. None of us has any way of telling if the perp was going to kill anyone. What you state as fact is nothing more than your opinion, which by the way is worth almost as much as it cost.
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00100111
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:49pmSearcher, you seem to have the idea that you are allowed to not shop somewhere because you disagree with their views, but if a conservative does it for views that you do agree with “Well, they’re just bigoted and narrow minded”. Which one is bigoted, again?
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00100111
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:51pmOLDPHOTO, seriously? The dude came in there threatening people with a gun. I don’t think he was there to sell Girl Scout Cookies.
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RANGER1965
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:42pm@OLDPHOTO
I disagree that there was no evidence, in fact most would agree the evidence is firmly in my favor.
But for the sake of argument let’s say you’re completely right and I’m blowing things out of proportion.
So what?
I’ve made a decision not to shop there anymore based on…whatever. If I wanted to I could stop shopping at Auto Zone because I don’t like the paint scheme. Maybe I hate it so much that I try to convince others of the same. It’s my right. If I was incredibly convincing about the paint scheme, and millions of Auto Zone shoppers stopped going there?…..well then Auto Zone needs to re-think their paint.
In the same manner it is my hope that enough people will convince them to change their idiotic firearm policy.
If you felt strongly enough that I was wrong you could start a campaign to shop at least 1/day at Autozone to counter mine. That is a free market. It doesn’t matter if it’s over cost, service, or philosophy. The strongest vote is the one you do with your money and your feet.
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DIR
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:13pmI don’t know about Ellen and I don’t care about her private life. She can be as fruity as she wants. I believe Sears hired her because she is a well know celebrity. The ad doesn’t bug me in the least. However, If people are objecting to Sears’ use of her because she’s gay they have a right to their openion. I am reading many here disparaging Christians as hate fill and misdirected wereas gays are concerned. Well I wonder why. Some get it, some don’t. There is a movement of poweful ‘Gay’ radical activists doing their magic in working over this country. They boycott any company who doesn’t bow down to their God of homosexuality. They have changed they way this country thinks using legalized extortion as their way to enforce the gay agenda which is not freedom friendly. While they cry for freedom they knowingly and happily take it away from others. Christianty teaches not to judge others. Some do and that’s a shame. Personally I don’t care what Homosexuals or anyone else does so long as it doesn’t interfere with my rights or that of my Country. When it comes to an organization that tries to stick it to me. I will fight back. The Chick Filet thing is a good example of how one group has started a war for which I feel compelled to fight back. By no means are the radical gays the only group. The left is made up of hundreds maybe thousands of groups (one clothed in fake va-ginas) and millions of activists. Remeber, while Romans slept Rome burned some consumed in
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GloriousTKS
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:44pmI cannot believe the continual criticism someone like Ellen gets from us conservatives. She may be openly gay, but she’s not selling the fact to the world. If you believe being gay is a sin, that’s fine, but act like good Christians about it. A sin is a sin. How many actors and celebrities and politicians who commit adultery, blasphemy, lie, take God’s name in vain, etc, do you openly support? How many people in your personal life sin? Ellen is one of the kindest celebrities out there and behaves more like a Christian than the haters that call themselves “good conservatives”. It makes me ashamed to be associated with you. The Church should never be a hate group. You cannot and will not win people over to our side by continually judging and hating. This is not God’s way, nor should it be ours. “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.” Mathew 7:1-5.
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searcher619
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:52pmCorrection: She get’s continually criticized by the religious right folks.
Not all conservatives are Christian or even religious and find homosexuality to be something wrong and something to be shunned. I’m a conservative and it bugs me when people try to imply that all conservatives are religious.
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GloriousTKS
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:08pmDid not mean to offend. Yes. I meant religious and conservative. I am both, but am continually vocal about people claiming to be good Christians when they put so much time and energy into spreading hate.
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searcher619
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:19pmGlorious:
I have met very few true Christians in my life.
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GloriousTKS
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:36pmIt is truly a shame. It seems that those who judge the loudest get the most voice and do the most damage. I wonder how many have turned away from Christianity because of this hate and anger?
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charjan
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:20pmDoesn’t do much good to criticize Helen. If you don’t agree with JCP, just don’t shop there. Let your voice be heard with your pocket book.
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CanadaRocks
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:44pmBare with me while i do a calculation to break it down for you.
If the OMM are actually a million moms, and say that they have on average 2 kids. That makes 2 million kids whose mothers belong to this group.
With all statistics saying that gays make up 5-7% of the population in america.
According to my math that would be 100,000 gay kids belonging to these mothers if we go on the low end of this scale at 5%.
How many of these “moms” will now no longer love but rather disown their own children. I am assuming that they are a christian group. So how many o them will turn their backs on their own children.
Maybe leaving the family unit of these insane women will be what is best for these children.
Freedom and equality for all. Not for who we choose to have those freedoms and equality.
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topperj
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:04pmBest guesstimate is that homosexuals make up 2-3% of the population. They have a lot of power for such a small group, don’t you think?
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CanadaRocks
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:05pmWhat is your point. They shouldnt have any power because of their percentage vs the straight percentage? What exactly are you trying to say?
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:07pmDid your magical app with 20 wonderfully informative sources help you come up with that number CANARYRIOTS?
Homosexual consistently comprise less than 2% of the population. so your “by my calculations” wand waving is flaccid and useless.
Try these numbers champ….Per the CDC more than 55% of new cases of HIV in this country each year are attributed to homosexuals. They make up less than 2% of the population. Do that math and tell me how much of an overrespresentation homosexuals comprise in that number. It’s well over 2000%.
So if they are all “normal” and just like everybody else..why are their sexual mores and proclivities making them ill and killing them in such disproportionately high numbers champ?
Go ahead and calculate that for me Copernicus….LOL.
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CanadaRocks
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:06pmAvengerk. You have to be the most self righteous pos on this site. Why do you still attack me for being as smart as you would like to be. Show me your stats genius. Not from fox or the blaze as in my last thread you refused to answer the question and instead babbled for about 3 posts about your view on things. So put up or shut up you loudmouth imbecile.
Here is a link to a gallup poll stating that 22% are gay. I will add more links for you since you are obviously too stupid to read for yourself.
The fact that you attack people for informing themselves speaks volumes about your juvenile mental capacity. Yes i use an app that links me to a wealth of knowledge. Sue me. When you can grow up and try to educate yourself you may be surprised at how stupid you actually are right now in this moment. AIDS has always affected gay men more than any other group. Spoiler alert!!! Straight people get it too. Amazing huh? Here are a few links you can get someone smart to read to you. One of the links by gallup suggested 22% which i do not believe. The numbers vary from less than 1% to 10% of those that admitted to being gay. The closeted wont say of course so i used the numbers as averages. You know what the word average is right? You are right. It is what you have been whole life. An average person with an above average propensity for being retarded.
Ok i will take a cut to 2.5%. Bringing the total of gay kids belonging to OMM down to 50000. Are you now satisfied?
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CanadaRocks
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:08pmhttp://carm.org/percent-population-homosexual
http://www.lehmiller.com/blog/2012/1/16/what-percentage-of-the-population-is-gay.html
http://str.typepad.com/weblog/2012/03/is-10-of-the-population-gay.html
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CanadaRocks
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:36pmSo come on avengerk. Enlighten us all with your expansive knowledge of facts with nothing to back them up. So being gay is disgusting to you and you blame gays for the spread of hiv and aids. So by your logic if 2% o the population is gay that leaves 98% of americans identifying as straight correct? So that must mean that of the 23 million americans addicted to drugs that would mean that of that number 23.85 million straight americans are junkies and crack whores. What is your point? That aids is a disease that affects predominantly gay men in america? There are more people worldwide with aids that are identified as straight. Dont worry though we got a canadian that has found the vaccine for hiv. Phase one on humans is complete. No adverse effects so far. So when aids is erradicated what will your complaint be?
You are so narrowminded it shows your lack of knowledge. I would like to say you are a smart informed person but you have given nothing to prove otherwise. Have a great weekend hotshot. Hope you score at the gay bar closet case.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:44pmThere’s no proof of homosexuals being that way. And you Marxists hypocritically pick and choose who to be tolerant of. Don’t whine about it when others do the same thing. Except that I don’t preach the tolerance and diversity garbage like you do.
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:37pmI mentioned the CDC for my numbers CANARYRIOTS you dimwitted lefty shill. Center for disease control? Heard of it by chance? But as usual..you ignore it and just “huffpo” and puff your lefty talking points like a good lefty shill.
Read it and weep clownshoes.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6147a3.htm?s_cid=mm6147a3_e
By the way..my 55% number for new cases of HIV each year that I posted ealier was far too conservative, the CDC in my linked article says 64%. Oops..my bad huh?
As for the percentage of homosexuals in the country…
http://news.discovery.com/human/about-2-of-americans-are-gay-110411.html
Please don’t insult me with a gallup phone poll. My link cites clinical studies by non-partisan groups.
LOL..yeah go ahead Isaac Newton..pull your little app out again and tell me all about your clownish calculations….you drooling idiot. No CANARYRIOT..you’re definitely not as smart as I’d like be…because if I was at your lowly level I’d be drooling on my shoes right now like you are.
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AvengerK
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 8:06pmOh and CANARYRIOTS…that 10% number you gleefully cited from your magical app? It was debunked years ago kid. It counts bisexuals and people who have tried sex with same sex partners in the number, not strict homosexuals. I know you used that 10% number you dimwit because it’s so appealing to you isn’t it? Idiot…you elevate yourself like the coddled juvenile you are and when confronted with the truth you fall apart like a house of straw in a hurricane.
Word of advice to you clownshoes…take it or leave it doesnt’ bother me..you’re the benighted one and if you choose to remain like that..that’s your shortfall not mine. Your lefty professors failed you little guy. They did a number on you kid..they made you into the myopic lefty idiot you are today. Dump their propaganda and start looking at the world without the lefty glasses they forced on you. Like I said..take it or leave..no skin of my arse… besides…you’re like shooting fish in a barrel the way you are now..blind and stupid.
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BigC
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 10:51pmIt is a moral choice not an earthly choice. You totally misunderstand their choice to boycott. Earthly tolerance is what you support, not the moral choice of those who chose to believe the way they do. It seems that in the last several years the argument has gone from the gay side preaching “tolerance” to its the law and you must accept. That is fine, as long as I do not have to “accept” this as my moral code. That the tax laws or any other laws are not favorable to gay lifestyles vs heterosexual lifestyles. This is my “tolerance”. You can marry a beast for all I care. Just do not expect me to “tolerate” this behavior. You can sodomize/gammorize anything you want, just do not involve me and we will be cool. If not then, you are intolerant. It’s a simple thing…
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Pantloadian
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 10:02amAVENGECAKE . . . “that 10% number . . . counts bisexuals and people who have tried sex with same sex partners in the number, not strict homosexuals.”
Clearly you spend A LOT of time thinking about “the gays.” Reading and looking at pictures and videos, seeking out where they congregate, and generally pondering their behavior and grooming methods – much the same way Pete Townsend goes about his research.
I want to help you with that fascination that is clearly your life’s work. First, bisexuals and people who have tried sex with the same-sex partners – those people are gay. You do or you don’t, know what I’m sayin?
I mean, sure, just because YOU can be found on a flatbed trailer rolling down 8th Avenue in New York on Halloween dressed in leather chaps and spurs singing “I Will Survive” doesn’t mean you’re gay.
Even so, so, sit quietly for awhile and come to recognize that the way you are is just fine – you don’t have to torture semantics to feel good about whatever “dual interests” or “experiments” you have in your life.
Let your freak flag fly, AVENGECAKE.
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Hopestar-B-COHIPER
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:04pmCanadian, I went to the CDC site mentioned by AVEN GERK.
What the CDC site did not mention was whether the M2M sex was between homosexuals or bisexuals or heterosexual males. Of course AVEN GERK would have us belief that it was all between homosexuals.
On that bases, I would have to say that all public school gym teachers are pedophiles as my experience with gym teachers says that at the least, they and the football coaches like to watch naked young males in the locker rooms and especially in the boy’s shower. Gym class was always shorter than shower time or nude examination of all students by gym teacher and his pet student and weights, heights etc were noted in gym teacher’s clipboard.
Yep, all gym teachers and coaches must be pedophile homosexuals even though all of them that I knew were married and had children and well respected members of the community.
Go figure…. On that note, figures don’t lie, but liars sure do know how to figure. wink, wink.
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Pantloadian
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 8:57pmssshhhhhhhh . . .AVENGECAKE is very sensitive. He considers his “grasp” of the “facts” interesting and provocative. Let him think that.
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Lawyer629
Posted on December 16, 2012 at 2:51pmLOL bare.
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VRW Conspirator
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:39pmisn’t Macy’s the one with the Trump and Stewart commercials…and a host of other well know personalities…I am sure we could all find someone in those commercials that lives a life or has an opinion that we think is offensive….
this is just stupid…I don’t care what spokesperson you have….it isn’t like they are making commercials with Ellen making out with her gf or talking about how this or that clothing would look good but only if you were gay…
Ellen…surprisingly….doesn’t bring up her sexuality when she is in public…other than on the red carpet where she walks in with her gf…but who watches award shows anymore anyway…they are just political theatre…she is not like Rosanne or Whoopi or Joy…calling for the death of Christians or Conservatives or spouting off about things they truly know nothing about….
I don’t care what you do in your bedroom…nor should any TRUE Conservative/libertarian…that is between you and God and if it is illegal..the police…I don’t like seeing two straight people making out in public any more than I don’t like seeing two gay people doing the same types of things…
Ellen for the most part is quiet about her life and private..that is what you should focus on as a Christian….she isn’t trying to convert you…obey the Bible and don’t judge her…
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Unbelievable
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:52pmI’m with you. Ellen is not offensive to anyone. In fact I find her quite funny! As long as she doesn’t push her beliefs on others then what she does in her private life is her business!
What turned me off of JCP was when they revamped their entires sales strategy. Since they did away with the earlybird sales I don’t shop there anymore.
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PokeySD
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:42pmI can honestly say that I’ve never purchased ANY product from anywhere based on a celebrity endorsement. I personally think that too much money is spent on advertisement, especially in the political realm, but that’s another story. I’ve never voted for or against a candidate based on a political ad or political/celebrity endorsement either. But there is nothing wrong with this ad. That said, people do make their own choices regarding where to shop and where not to, so if the mere existence of Ellen is enough to make one not shot at JCP, that’s their choice. I don’t usually shop there because I avoid the mall like the plague, and JCP is a little spendy for my budget. As for Target selling gay-leaning clothing, etc., well they have a business to run and they have to appeal to all people, not just Christians. They all sell a lot of clothing that I find offensive, and a shirt with a rainbow flag is not among them. I’d rather see a rainbow t-shirt on a young lady than a shirt that shows her boobs to the nipple line. But hey, if it offends you, don’t buy it. If you see someone wearing it, look away. No one has a right NOT to be offended.
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Hopestar-B-COHIPER
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:11pm@pokeysd
I have never purchased anything based on a celeb’s word.
I determine if I want something.
Then I find out where I can buy it.
I look at the quality, cost etc
Then I decide if I want to buy it.
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SiVisPacemParaBellum
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:39pmNON-Issue, I do not agree with her lifestyle, And think she will answer for it in front of her creator, but the ad is not offensive. Don’t like the place, don’t shop there, enough people stop shopping there and they’ll change.
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aapatriot
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:35pmI like Ellen and think the commercials are clever.
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Auntie izlam
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:35pmEllen is a better role model than a lot of so-called “Christian” hypocrites who don’t know how to practice The Golden Rule.
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Red Meat
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:38pmPlease do not forget that JCP was advertising Obama jewelry as well.
I didn’t realize that ghetto trash shopped at JCP?
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:49pmYO! RED MEAT…. who you calling Ghetto Trash? Are you speaking of another group of children made by GOD?
I don’t know any Christian who would be offended because of this AD. PLEASE, BLAZE, stop lumping us all together!!! Christian Conservatives should mean that 1) we acknowledge CHRIS as our Lord and Savior 2) We don’t believe in running up bills we can’t pay
I do not want to see any more class warfare fodder on this site. Stop with it. What Ellen does on her own is not for me to judge. I don’t understand it, I don’t want to see it or be involved in anyway, but she’s a very talented and funny lady and human – like I am – filled with flaws and good things!
STOP with the class warfare; the racial slurs; the blocking all of us in one group. THE only people you can do that with legitimately are LIBERALS and PROGRESSIVES… that is based upon their incorrect comprehension of the world and their role in it. :)
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Exidor
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:49pmThey don’t. they just shop lift there…..
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seek.the.truth
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:55pmThank you Patty Henry. I was trying to come up with the right words to say and you already said them. Much better than I could have! MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:57pmmake that WE acknowledge CHRIST as our LORD and SAVIOR
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Pearsontech
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:06pmNot sure I would say role model but then again I don’t thing being gay is right or something you are born with. Regardless of that I fail to see what the big uproar is with the ad. Quite frankly a little sick of it. Leave the woman alone. What did she do in the add that had even one thing to do with her sexuality?? Answer nothing. Is just an ad. Seriously you big holier than thou Christians? You seriously think that this is how you attract people to your faith? This is how you win people over for god? Wow what a joke look in the mirror. We are all sinners even Christians. God is no respecter of persons nor does he weigh sins heaver than others. A sin is a sin period. You may not be homosexual but I bet there are plenty of other sins you have committed and continue to commit. Btw I am a Christian, I have a traditional family, and Ellen doing commercials for JCP is fine with me. Don’t flaunt or push you homosexuality on me and we have no problem. Don’t think I can recall a time where I ever saw Ellen do anything close to that or like that. Bottom line give it a rest this is not the hill to die on pick you battles.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:13pm@ SEEK Thank YOU and MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU and to ALL !! We have such a short time to live…we really need to avoid Satan’s potholes and tar pits of hatred, class warfare etc. and get about the business of making our lives count as examples of what Love is. One day you are 20 and the next day you are 60 and grandparents ! Wish the best for everyone; help anyway you can; realize that most problems we all have come from…..us. :)
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Clever Username
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:18pmWell said Patty Henry!! We all “sin”. If you think Ellen is a “sinner” because of her sexuality that can be your opinion. So for all of you without sin, go ahead and stone Ellen out of a job. Do you know what Ellen says at the end of every single episode? “Be kind to one another”. Do you realize how much Ellen does for charity? How much of her own money she has given to people in need?
Ellen is gay. SO F#%#*!ng WHAT!! She does more good for humanity to make up for what some believe is worth condemning her soul to hell for all of eternity. God knows what the score is. Get over yourselves…you don’t have the power to condemn anyone! Now go do something nice for someone…that’s what Ellen would do.
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barber2
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:23pmPATTY: It’s the Red Meat types who post here as ” conservatives” and Christians who give conservatives and Christians a bad name . They are no more Christian than was Hitler. These guys are anarchists: they hate laws, rules, authority, God, religious people, police, the military, traditional values, good taste, the word ” not” and a zillion other things. They are atheists, negative, trouble makers. If you locked them in a closet they would pick a fight with themselves ! They are the great Dividers. They share the Chicago radicals hate of several of the previously mentioned items. Not sure about where they stand capitalism though. But being negative, they probably hate it too. Another Chicago 60s radical similarity !
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Ducky657
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:34pmHere’s the thing folks–if you say you are going to boycott anything you have to continue despite the fact it may not be convenient. Don’t do Macy’s, JCP, AT&T, Disney, Pepsi, or anyone else who would try to promote the gay lifestyle. My son’s always wanted to go to Disneyland but since Disney and Eisner decided some years ago to open up the park for free because someone chose a deviant lifestyle they won’t get any of my money–ever! BTW–don’t do ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX or any associated programming. Doesn’t leave a lot but given the fact most of the media is pure junk what difference does it make? Read a book–take a class–do something with you family–turn off the Boob-tube!
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:42pmMake sure you also boycott any manufacturer that would put products in JCP too. You should be consistent. Good luck with that.
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DarthMims
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:44pmYou would deny your son the experience of enjoying Disneyland to prove you don’t support homosexuals? What a cold hearted ba$+@rd you are.
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Winedude
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:56pm@Darthmims: I couldn’t have said it any better myself. I find it absurd that someone would take this whole issue to such an absurd extreme. But, that’s what crazy Evangelicals do…
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Walkabout
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:26pmRothbardian_in_the_Cleve
As Glenn points out boycotts generally don’t work. It doesn’t mean that we should never try. Personally, I would want a boycott to protest Alec Baldwin before Ellen. I don’t know that Ellen is obnoxious like Rosie O’Donnel was.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:46pmWinedude – And you crazy hatetheists wouldn’t do the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot? Stop whining.
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jackact
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:33pmAbsolutely offensive.
Shop Walmart or Target instead.
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budzy1911
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:42pmWe used to shop there but have stopped. I look at it this way – there are vendors out there that respect me and my values. I have a choice and I made it. JCP is the next K-Mart – only a matter of time before they go under.
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ICSPADES
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:47pmSo people dieing overseas to make sure you get cheap crap from Wally World does not offend you? I do not believe in the gay lifestyle and as long as they don’t push it on me or my family I do not have a problem. I am a Christian and I certainly don’t want Christianity shoved down my throat.
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ICSPADES
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:49pmOne more thing, if anything offended me at all it is the fact that she gives less than a percent of her gross to charity.
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jhrusky
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:13pm“Absolutely offensive. Shop Walmart or Target instead.”
Be careful … I heard that white dog that advertises for Target was caught trying to hump another male dog. Additionally, it’s rumored that Walmart has some gay people working there!
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:29pm@JHRUSKY
LOL! Yeah, the last thing you want to do is catch The Gay from a dog bite! :)
This thread, and couple of others the last couple of days, confirm to me clearly and in no uncertain terms why I am a libertarian. It’s not that people judge; that’s fine, we all do that, it’s rather that they see no problem with trying to destroy lives and careers because they don’t particularly approve of one particular sin (while, strangely, giving the rest of sins a pass). I rarely see this kind of outrage over, for example, gluttony or pictures of Jesus (no graven images kids, oops).
Gays, to me, are like any other individual. Some are bad, some are good, some just want to get by in life and be left alone, others want to be noticed and shove themselves into your reality. And that’s true of *every* group of identities out there. This group-think like OMM displays is frightening. Go get something meaningful to do with your lives, ladies.
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Clever Username
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 4:15pmJackact, You can’t shop at Target either because they once sold a Gay pride Tshirt. Walmart doesn’t honor thy mother and father (Mom and Pop). Sears covetes Walmart..so they’re out. Macy’s doesn’t keep holy the sabbith. Kohl’s openly sells bra’s and panties to adulterists. You better get to Jo Anne Fabrics and buy a pile of denim because you gots some clothes to make…oh wait I heard JoAnne used the Lord’s name in vain at a Hobby Lobby… Nevermind, I hope you don’t like shopping anywhere.
I’m sorry, don’t you see how absurd these kind of boycotts are. NONE of us are without sin…go shop for the deals, say your prayers, and go do something nice for someone. Merry Christmas!
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Lawyer629
Posted on December 16, 2012 at 2:50pmLOL you’re dumb.
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Grannie4news
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:33pmI am a Christian and I do not find anything wrong with the ad, in fact I think it is a cute ad and although I do not believe in Ellen’s lifestyle I do believe she is still a child of God and that alone is good enough for me. I will let God do His job and leave the judging of others to Him. Merry Christmas to all. We seem to forget sometimes what this Holiday is all about.
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RoguePO
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:41pmNow you are a true Christian.
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msconstrue
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:42pmgrannie, my thoughts exactly!!!! i have always thought that humans judging other humans for their sins was a bit presumtuous. that is Gods job and shouldn’t concern us.
judge not least you be judged.
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00100111
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:57pmI always have to snicker a little when an atheist tells me “You seem like a true Christian”. Thanks buddy, but I don’t exactly need your approval.
I agree, with you Grannie. She’s lesbian, so what? Ok, yeah so it’s a sin. Lots of things I do are sins, so it’s not really my place to say anything. She’s still a great person, she’s successful, funny, gives to charities, etc. Her sex life is not our business.
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smokeysmoke
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:32pmthis is a dumb story is you are really a libritarian you would not be trying to silence anyone, just dont go to JCP if you really care… but there is alot more important stuff going on
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TERossi
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 5:53pmYou know what’s really dumb? Your pathetic spelling. Your inability to understand the role and function human organs, while pretending to be scientific. Anything to excuse your own stupidity eh?
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:32pmAre you kidding me? Seriously? Maybe….just maybe…they didn’t hire Ellen because she’s gay. Just saying. Maybe…just maybe…they hired her because she’s funny and positive.
Yeah, that’s the real Christian thing to do…boycott JCP because Ellen is gay. Of course, any other spokesperson who has lusted, lied, slothed, gluttoned, not trusted God, suffers from pride, etc., yeah they are OK. God doesn’t cherry pick which sins are wrong but I guess to be good Christians you should.
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Cavallo
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:32pmShe’s not on this ad going “Gay gay ***** gay **** gay ***** gay.” She’s a comedian and it seems she learned her lessen that focusing on her sexuality ruins her career (after she came out and made her sitcom a platform for gayness it tanked and was canceled). Now she’s just a funny person who has a twisted private life, which for the most part that I can see has been kept far more private than most celebs.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:30pmThese people really need to get over themselves. There is no “hate the sin but love the sinner” in their hearts, there is nothing more than pure hate. Ellen DeGeneres is a fantastic talent and one of the few genuinely *nice*, funny and pleasant people left in entertainment. So she’s gay, who cares? She came out, went a bit overboard to compensate for her insecurity in the 1990′s, and has now settled back into her normal nice, pleasant personality. She’s perhaps one of the least offensive people in Hollywood.
Yeah, these people are really morally outraged. Or, more likely, bored and looking to be angry at others because their own lives suffer from lack of purpose and meaning otherwise.
It’s fine to be for or against homosexuality. It’s quite another to target a perfectly nice person and try to impact her career simply because you don’t like her sexuality.
Geesh.
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frust@ted
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:33pmRight on Jefferson, they are 2 completly different things.
Topics like this is where the rift begins and why people like me now identify themselves as libertarians and not republicans.
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eagle99
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:38pmExactly who cars? She’s funny and doesn’t puch her ‘gayness’ om others. If we conservatives ever want to get back in power they need to leave these social issues to the churches and individual conscience. Just what we need boycotting everything just like the libs. I would never be able to go the movies, or shop at untold number of places if I take everything so seriously. I couldn’t even shop at Costco anymore given their politiacl leanings.
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DougHuffman
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:27pmJCP disappeared when they associated with the failed comedienne DeGenerate.
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catty
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:57pmYes, she has failed her way into the hearts of the world you old crap.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:10pmCatty – How come JCP is doing worse since hiring her?
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frust@ted
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:27pmIf you are offended by this advertisement, you are what is wrong with republican party. All this ad tried to do was have some fun with Christmas. At no point was her sexual preference even brought up in the ad.
Don’t be a grinch.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:32pmI absolutely agree. After the 1990′s you’d be hard pressed to see her even mentioning her sexuality. Some people really need to get lives.
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KyleD
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:58pmI completely agree. I’ll be the first to say I disagree with her lifestyle choice but she’s still a human being that has a right to live her life. If the ad were blatantly promoting her lifestyle I’d be upset but this is just a cute little ad that doesn’t do anything except joke about the size of elves.
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MDECKER
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:10pmJCP, if they really wanted my business, would include Portia de Rossi in some kind of lesbian scene with someone of comparable looks, rather than one with Degeneres.
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FlowerBell
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 7:16pmAgree,
Hollywood is gay, even in the old days. Most of the folks in the old movies are just “acting” straight and most people seem fine with it. Everyone needs to work and earn a living and do their part to help strengthen our country. All is well until they start politicizing their sexuality. A little class goes a long way.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:23pmShe’s already a proven developmental aberration. So, why pay attention to this broken biological experiment.
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kickagrandma
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 1:22pmOh, we will.
REAL CHRISTIANS ARE VOTING WITH OUR PRAYERS, OUR WALLETS AND OUR LIVES, you sad, lost, degenerate slug.
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cdn1979
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:00pmi see the tolerance Jesus taught you is shining through.
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jedoug3d
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:08pmWhy start with “Voting with our prayers” and end with name calling? And who is voting against JCP with their lives? A retail store is not worth dying for. Although, JC did die for all of us sad, lost, degenerates, and I have hope because of it.
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CanadaRocks
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 2:45pmI kinda wanna kick you now.
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bannedfromCNN
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:10pmYESSSSS!!!!!!!!! Put this rug muncher back in the closet.
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AbrahamsSheepdog
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:21pmWow! Almost went to JCP today to get Levis cargo 642 (discontinued :( ) but told my girl nah take me home, “JCP have turned to wierdos with new ceo” she’s like whatever and agreed they are overpriced. She’s buying for my bday. Found some on Ebay, haha. Ellen is like elmo- a freak. & JCP sucks.
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AbrahamsSheepdog
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 3:36pmAnd called Levis customer service to complain about my fav 642′s being discontinued. They said how can we satisfy you? They are sending me Free pair of new 569 cargos. 2 new pair Ellen. Who wears the pants now!
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PokeySD
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 5:21pmEllen said and did NOTHING offensive here. Does she offend you with her very existence? I think the commercial is cute. There is nothing wrong with it, unless you’re a “little person” offended by elf jokes. I lurk here a lot and I usually don’t see a level of intolerance as severe as this.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on December 7, 2012 at 6:48pmCDN1979 – When did Jesus preach tolerance and diversity?
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Lawyer629
Posted on December 16, 2012 at 2:50pmLOL prayers.
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