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Agriculture Secretary: Rural America Is ‘Becoming Less and Less Relevant’

Dec. 8, 2012 11:51am Christopher Santarelli

Agriculture Secretary Vilsack: Rural America Is Becoming Less and Less Relevant

U.S. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack gestures as he speaks to a rural community forum in El Reno, Okla., Wednesday, Sept. 16, 2009. (AP Photo/Sue Ogrocki)

Former Iowa governor and current United States Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack said during a conference late this past week that in the national landscape, rural America is “becoming less and less relevant.”

Vilsack is working to finish a five-year farm bill before the end of 2012, and spoke with House Agriculture Committee Chairman Frank Lucas, Ranking Member Colin Peterson and Senate Agriculture Committee Chairman Debbie Stabenow at the Farm Journal Forum conference in Washington Thursday.

The perhaps poor choice of words came as Vilsack was arguing that the delay on the farm bill is not the result of policy reasons but rather the decline of political power in Washington from rural America as the population has declined and grown old in age.

The Des Moines Register reports that the former Democratic Governor encouraged those living in rural areas to be proactive, not to hang on to the past, and to pick their battles carefully.

“Unless we respond and react, the capacity of rural America and its power and its reach will continue to decline,” Vilsack said Thursday. Vilsack also said rural America needs to make sure the rest of the country does not overlook their biggest assets like the food supply, recreational areas, and energy.

“It’s time for us to have an adult conversation with folks in rural America.”

The Associated Press reports on Vilsack’s remarks:

Vilsack criticized farmers who have embraced wedge issues such as regulation, citing the uproar over the idea that the Environmental Protection Agency was going to start regulating farm dust after the Obama administration said repeatedly it had no so such intention.

In his Washington speech, he also cited criticism of a proposed Labor Department regulation, later dropped, that was intended to keep younger children away from the most dangerous farm jobs, and criticism of egg producers for dealing with the Humane Society on increasing the space that hens have in their coops. Livestock producers fearing they will be the next target of animal rights advocates have tried to undo that agreement.

“We need a proactive message, not a reactive message,” Vilsack said. “How are you going to encourage young people to want to be involved in rural America or farming if you don’t have a proactive message? Because you are competing against the world now.”

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ivan90
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:31pm
This is why you have to read the whole article…This headline is not honest. I am a fan of Beck, but this site does this on occassion and it really damages their credibility.

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- jcldwl
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:35pm
  I agree there. They have many misleading headlines constantly not just every now and then. I come here to stay up on news as well as drudge and others. I no longer watch or listen to Glenn.
  
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- freeberty
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:51pm
  No more welfare checks, in the form of farm subsides, for the parasites down on the family farm.
  
  This article ought to make every conservative happy.
  
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- liltexasgal
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 3:57pm
  agreed
  
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- paveprince
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 6:09pm
  thank you for complying with central authority. your rations have been increased. WE are watching you.
  
  —— BIG BROTHER
  
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- mikem1969
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 6:49pm
  Farm subsidies do nothing for the small farmer, they give the corporate farmer much more power and money to form conglomerates which destroy small farms and farmers that used to be the backbone of the farm belts around this country. NO MORE SUBSIDIES, NO MORE HANDOUTS.
  
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- 4theThinMan
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 7:24pm
  Beck owns the site – but he doesn’t write on it – nor often even peruse it – unless one of his minions brings it up to him.
  
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- turkey13
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 7:42pm
  Only folks with to much money farm. My sons have a construction company and almost 1500 acres. They get paid under C.R.P. (CRAP program is what farmers call it) to not farm. Under another government program from the Dept. of Agriculture they are being paid to bull dose trees. If tree huggers knew this they would p_ee their pants. My sons sold their cows after a second year of drout and leased their pasture for over $10,000 a year. For another $12,000 they leased the hunting to 4 lawyers. For the first time in 3 years they will make a profit from their ranch side and can concetrate on the construction company.Nearly all our neighbors have sold their cows and are trying to sell their land.
  
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- OlderCowGirl
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 9:43pm
  @Freeberty What do you know about farmers? Only the big farmers get subsidies. I’m a farmer who lives/works on a farm and we have NEVER seen one penny of government monies.
  
  Not all farmers get govt’ money.
  
  Thank you 1776freedomofspeech for your truthful words. You are so right.
  
  I lived in the cities for many years until I quit and moved back to farming. You can have the rotten crime ridden cities. I hate them.
  
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- pjpockets
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 10:44pm
  Its amazing how many idiots attack Beck for a provacative headline that gets people to read the article. Are you people to foolish and stupid to read and understand? Do you have any depth of thought? I cant see any at all. How sad to see the America I know destroyed because of to many fools.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 10:56pm
  ivan90, I’m another who doesn’t understand why people tolerate the deception. I think it speaks to the view that that people who come here want to hear whatever conforms to their beliefs regardless of the facts. I think that if the residents of this website, and others on the extreme right, were able to absorb reality, and not detach themselves from it, America would be a better place.
  
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- Treaty
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 11:11pm
  PJPOCKETS, no – it is you that is acting foolish. We live in a world of headlines. There is no need to use deceit to draw the reader in. It’s the journalist version of Bait and Switch.
  
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- Libertarian
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 2:41am
  @OlderCowGirl,
  
  The problem is that the Farm Bureau and farmers in Washington State are not part of the solution, it is actually that – they are part of the problem. 99% of the farmers in my county are in the Open Space Agriculture program which redistributes their tax burden to their neighbors within the school district. The farmers and large timber corporations that have amassed a large amount of land also put their timber into one of the two timber programs which results in the same type of tax redistribution. When the land cannot be farmed and does not have timber on it, it is put into an Open Space Conservation program that once again – redistributes the majority of their property tax to their neighbors.
  
  It is no secret that farmers in Washington State shift a huge sum of taxation to their neighbors on these programs. 100 acres of land usually costs a farmer only $200 a year in tax or $16 a month. While a quarter acre of land is roughly the same amount in tax.
  
  The Agriculture, Timber (Designated forest land and Timber programs), Open Space Conservation programs and the regulatory environmental movement is making rural land a hot commodity as it becomes nonexistent. Agenda 21 is alive and well in Washington State.
  
  The farming industry is the most subsidized commercial industry in the United States of America. The Farm Bureau is a welfare lobby for farmers. That is all it is.
  
  Most farmers are not part of the solution, they are part of the problem.
  
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- Michigander
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 8:50am
  Turkey 13, you are full of crap. There are still a lot of us who farm and don’t get any subsidies, and don’t have “too much money.”
  
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- bbach5000
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 8:51am
  freeberty, what an ignorant thing to say! I am a 3rd generation small farmer and have voted to give up my payments every time. I know countless farmers who feel the same way. Hardly the actions of a parasite. I hope you didn”t write that with food in your mouth or cloths on your back.
  
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- Michigander
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 9:00am
  Apparently, Ivan, you have a problem with reading comprehension.
  
  The headline is a quote from a Democrat from Iowa who was appointed by Obummer to be the US Secretary of Agriculture. He should be an advocat for agriculture and rural America, but it seems that he is a traitor and part of the team who intends to destroy this nation. With a man like that in his position, be prepared for food shortages, riots, famine, and AGENDA 21. THAT is the point of the headline. I hope you comprehend my message, so I will shout it, THE MESSAGE OF THIS ARTICLE IS BEWARE. THIS ADMINISTRATION IS ON THE MOVE TO DESTROY EVERYTHING THAT MADE AMERICA GREAT.
  
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- bannedfromCNN
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 10:27am
  Have you visited CNN lately???
  
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- psychokittis
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:12pm
  @freeliberty-Where do you get your delusions from? Having a flahback to a bad trip? Or just taking too much acid nowadays?
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 2:27pm
  Sendthemeteors – Since when have you Marxists ever been attached to reality? Such as the world doesn’t owe you a living. Or that you snobby city people need to realize that the food you eat or the water you drink or the houses you live in come from the industries that you leftists despise: the timber and agriculture industries.
  
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- undeadprospekt
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 9:15pm
  You realize that headlines are meant to draw you into reading a story, right? It amazes me the lengths you and others go to complain about everything.
  
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- Independent4233
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 9:48pm
  Irrelevant, eh?
  
  And, yes he did say that. Reading the entire article doesn’t change this goofball’s words and intent.
  
  But we’ll see how irrelevant we in the countryside are as the economy continues downward, which will resume in earnest in the first quarter.
  
  How irrelevant will the urbanites be when the expected crisis hits again…only hardfer this time…. and the store shelves are emptied in two days, the water and power go off and chaos and mayhem are the order of the day?
  
  I wonder who’s going to be irrelevent then?
  
  And I hope all these “relevant” urbanites don’t try to escape the urban areas, because they’ll be totally surrounded by irrelevant rural dwellers who are armed to the teeth and just waiting for a chance to prove how irrelevant they are. And they still number in the tens of millions.
  
  If we can’t get secession one way, we’ll get it another.
  
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- RonPaulOrNoOne
  Posted on December 10, 2012 at 12:24am
  If you read the bible, and read how it ended. The west does not exist.
  
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- sillyfreshness
  Posted on December 10, 2012 at 1:53am
  Nice to see this tool sold out his own constituents.
  
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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:24pm
Looking forward to watching the city-folketty folk turning on each other for food while the country people enjot their sweet corn on the cob with home churned butter and Black Angus Rib-Eye steaks and ribs. Not to mention BBQ pork ribs and beef brisket. City dwellers Su(k!

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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:29pm
  They always have.
  
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- Tom70
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 2:03pm
  If Monsanto had its way and they are working on it there would be no family farms just chemical food factories and in time we’d be a dust bowl.
  
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- Winedude
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 2:08pm
  Your a sad, sad man, pathetic at best. Have you lived in a city? I spent 40 years in agriculture, living on a farm I managed, then dealing with post-harvest processing, which in my case was mostly making grapes into ultra-premium wine. After I retired, my wife and I decided to move to a more urban environment to rid ourselves of some mostly daily chores. I have to say I don’t mind city life and for you to totally disparage it and the folks that live in the cities is nothing but another example of why conservatives will never win another national election. For what it’s worth, when I was farming I thought that the processing (I’ve farmed many crops from grapes, pears, prunes, safflower and more) people were the dumbest folks on earth. When I got into processing, I came to realize that the growers are the most ignorant folks around. They moan and cry when someone gets a welfare check but cry, hypocritically, if their subsidy payment (farm welfare) is a day late. IDIOTS!!!
  
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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 2:18pm
  Keep on whining dude. Gardens and self sufficient rugged individualist USA Citizen Americans is what I am talking about you weak willed sister. Glad you are with the urban crowd, you carpetbagger!
  
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- 338lapua
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 8:40pm
  winedude is CLEARLY one of the “smart people”. He knows so much better than any of us who manage to eke out a living away from the filth of the city. We all just need to listen, and learn. Winedude has so much knowledge to bestow upon us commoners. All hail the “smart people”!
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 2:58am
  WINEDUDE is one of those people who I would call a citiot. I’ll bet that he never actually got his hands dirty. He paid others to get THEIR hands dirty for him. I will take a guess and say that his is in California.
  Probably had illegals doing all the dirty work and paying them sub-par wages. Probably has NEVER driven a tractor, nor any farm machinery, left that up to the foreman and the common, unwashed, people.
  
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- MaggieRose
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 8:34am
  Agreed, 1776! Out here in the middle of nowhere, we help each other, feed each other, and pray for each other. Each person in our tiny town matters. And, American farmers feed the world! Small town America is doing just fine, thank you very much… just leave us the h*LL alone.
  
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- JeffMT
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 9:09am
  The problem here is the willful ignorance of the urban population who has no clue where their food, energy and building materials come from. Hint: they all come from rural America.
  
  Wheat, barley, corn, etc. Beef, chicken, pork, etc. – all are grown/raised and harvested in rural America. Oil, natural gas, coal. etc. Timber, copper, iron ore, etc. – all mined/harvested in rural America.
  
  So, go ahead, all of you urban dwelling ‘intellectual elites’ – disregard rural America and see where that gets you. But stop eating rural-produced food and stop consuming rural-produced energy and raw materials.
  
  Also, while I’m at it, stay away from our states as tourists. We don’t like you in the first place because 95% of you are clueless morons (we refer to you as ‘tourons’) who expect us to be happy to see you. We aren’t and we do just fine when you are not around!
  
  This whole ‘rural America is becoming less relevant’ thing is simply another ploy by the liberals to intellectually manipulate the mindless minions in the cities into believing they are deserving of what rural America produces just because they live in a city. Most people in a city have no idea how food and materials are produced and get to market. They think everything magically comes from a giant warehouse somewhere and gets trucked to the superstore or mall for them to buy.
  
  Yes, I have lived in a city – Portland, Oregon – for the 5 worst years of my life!
  
  BTW, the ‘MT’ stands for Montan
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 3:56pm
  Whinedude – Where are you city people going to get your food from if not for the farmers? Or your housing if not for loggers? Or your transportation if not for the people who drill oil? Or your electricity or indoor plumbing? You might want to get your nose out of the air and get off of your self righteous high horse.
  
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aproudinfidel
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:21pm
What a coincidence, so is is Tom Vilsack and the rest of Washington, DC. The government is on a mission to serve only the people in urban areas, because that is who elected them and panders to them. Good luck to the rest of us.

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- jcldwl
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:39pm
  True. They will do like all other communist regimes. Funnel people into the cities where they are more easily watched and controlled and kill off the self sufficient farmers. Then they will designate people that don’t know how to farm, to be farmers and they will bus them out to do their daily work. Then we will all be completely enslaved by the government because the only place you will be able to get food is in a government food line. If you think that isn’t where they are taking us then you are sadly mistaken.
  
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- listeninginVT
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 3:05pm
  I thought that was so nice of him to make that clear.
  
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- bannedfromCNN
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 10:25am
  “ballsack” sucked when he was the governor of
  iowa. that’s why barry chose him.
  
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- TulsaYeeHaw
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 10:38am
  @JCLDWL
  
  Just like the ussr in 1920
  
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Hoax And Chains
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:05pm
Reading the article, he is saying rural areas are unfortunately becoming less and less relevant in both government and economy… as he states it is a shame and something needs to be done to strengthen rural voices and reinvigorate the agricultural arena, I see nothing wrong with his statement. The headline is misleading.

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- georgette
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:20pm
  Anyone in any walk of life who believes you can bite the hand that feeds you,,,,,,,?
  
  ……. dumber than ******’s boots.
  
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- Johnny 7 OMA
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 9:20am
  Anyone in any walk of life who believes you can bite the hand that feeds you,,,,,,,?
  
  Those people will lick the boots that kick them.
  
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- Johnny 7 OMA
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 9:28am
  Eric Hoffer
  
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SidneyDave
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:02pm
Do these Obama appointees take stupid pills or were they born that way? Why is it that when the US experiences flooding or drought that affects our food production, these same idiots panic Americans to believe the food shortages will cause prices to rise? If American agriculture is irrelevant, then where will our food come from? I know, Obama will sign an executive order that hunger is the new normal and obesity has been cured.

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- Irememberamerica
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:44pm
  I heard China makes great rice, ya know the rice bags filled with plastic rice.
  
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BlackCrow
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:56pm
Here you go.

http://gprc.org/research/buffalo-commons/#.UMN-AXmwVpQ\

A proposal by a couple East Coast academics to take everything from the Mississippi to the front range of the Rocky Mountains from the Rio Grande to the Canadian boarder plow it under and give it back to the Indians and the buffalo.

Wonder why firearm sales are at an all time high.

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- JeffersonsPen
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:15pm
  Casinos, Casinos, Casinos……………….As an American of Cherokee desent I assure you the remenants of Native America no longer have the skills just as the progresso commies in there asphalt towers of growing more than weeds and tulips.
  
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- LaderaCa
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 2:24pm
  Blackcrow thanks for reminding us of this foolishness, however given what we are learning about Agenda 21, I now see it as very scary and potentially real proposal. I had read a long article on Buffalo Commons a number of years ago in the NY Times magazine and couldn’t remember the name and simply dismissed it, at the time as an academic exercise. WOW was I wrong not to become concerned.
  Do follow the link to Great Plains Restoration Council. “Great Plains Restoration Council (GPRC) works to restore and protect our shattered prairies and plains through developing youth leaders in Ecological Health. Protecting wild nature is a matter of public health, and participating in its hands-on recovery offers therapeutic modalities for many social and physical ills.”
  
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John 1776
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:49pm
It will also be interesting to see how “irrelevant” rural areas are when the infrastructure collapses and city residents discover you can’t eat or drink asphalt.

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- loriann12
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:15pm
  You know, the whole point of Agenda 21 is that everyone lives in urban centers and only enough people that can be fed by the 100 miles surrounding that area will be allowed to live in that city. They don’t want more cities, they want the urban areas outside of that 100 mile radius to go back to “indigenous” life, and they don’t mean American Indians, they mean wild life. I imagine the 100 miles will be meaured from the center of the city, too.
  
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John 1776
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:47pm
My hope would be that the government becomes less and less relevant. Fat chance under Lord Barry, but it has become so prolific at doing a lot of nothing with us footing the bill.

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- jcldwl
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:42pm
  That is their plan. Let it collapse so THEY can rebuild it to match the fantasy in their crazy minds.
  
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MBA
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:41pm
Can the liberals in charge get any dumber? I guess this guy doesn’t eat beef, pork, chicken, bread, vegetables, or wear wool or cotton , etc. Not to mention employed farmers (jobs anyone?) Geez, I’m going with Texas when it become its own country. I’ll be the first to vote for the “wall” being built to keep out dumb sh*ts like this,.

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- Johnny 7 OMA
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 9:12am
  I’m with you.
  The Obama regime can do to us what Robert Mugabe did to Zimbabwe: Change us from a food exporting country to a food importing country.
  
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shorelineliz
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:37pm
Tom Vilsack is the last person who should be Agriculture Secretary with this disgusting attitude. There are millions of little farms. People just hanging on. He should be strengthening the family farm rather than selling out to Monsanto and other big agri businesses so he can get his own luxury retirement. These same politicians make me want to puke.

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- strawberry411a
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:46pm
  Yea right. Tell that to North Dakota and the Bakkenites. You total losers in politics: you don’t even know what is going on. North Dakota unemployment: 2 percent. State budget balanced and expanding daily. People are flocking to this region while you idiots in government scam your way to the top. Rural America will be here long after Detroit and DC are just memories.
  
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- ThereIsNoOtherStream
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:57pm
  I beg to differ. There are not “millions of little farms”. Small farm numbers diminish every year. Regulations force small farmers out of business every day. I’m one of those barely hanging on. Unfair and ridiculous regulations make it impossible for the small farmer to compete with the mega-farms that much more resemble factories than farms and make every effort to turn animals into machines, with un-speakable cruelty toward those animals. To stop this people must be willing to pay a little more and buy directly from your local small farms.
  
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- strawberry411a
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 9:30pm
  Yes you re right.
  
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Hobbs10
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:34pm
Did ya notice, Vile Sack puts the burden on rural america to make ourselves noticed and appreciated. Bingo. All the while O, and his czars, EPA are killing us.

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TRILO
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:34pm
The Farm Bill is nothing more than a giant subsidy for big agribusiness, bio-tech and the continuation of endless taxpayer money going into the food stamp program.

He is correct in that rural America is becoming irrelevant and old. Not for the reason he sites. He said they need to stop supporting “wedge issues” like regulation. Is he kidding! The EPA and FDA ARE making it almost impossible for farmers, especially small farmers to make a living. Farm dust, waters of the US (they want to regulate all water on property including ponds), the Labor Dept bill “to protect” children were and are BIG problems. Why would any young person want to get involved in farming when having to deal with these idiots in DC?

Just another example of a big government Agenda 21 democrat. To think that the sheeple in Iowa, voted for this man as their governor.

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- Cartwheels
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:48pm
  The Farm Bill is something like 80% Food Stamps.
  
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- Watchingtheweasels
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 9:49am
  “Vilsack criticized farmers who have embraced wedge issues such as regulation, citing the uproar over the idea that the Environmental Protection Agency was going to start regulating farm dust after the Obama administration said repeatedly it had no so such intention.
  
  In his Washington speech, he also cited criticism of a proposed Labor Department regulation, later dropped, that was intended to keep younger children away from the most dangerous farm jobs, and criticism of egg producers for dealing with the Humane Society on increasing the space that hens have in their coops.”
  
  Is the important part of this article. Vilsack intends this as a criticism of the voting patterns of conservative rural Americans. Contained in it is a threat. Remember Valerie Jarret’s promise to punish the political “enemies” of Obama after the election?
  
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Uechi
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:33pm
On what planet does this dumb ass live? Unless he wants millions of people starving and all are food being imported he better get his head out of his ****. The so called irrelevant population provides the vast majority of our food or does this moron think it magically appears in grocery stores. Unbelievable the arrogrance and stupidity of politicians.

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Hobbs10
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:31pm
This is just a “little pre-conditioning” of telling rural America that they are going to get the AXE. It’s been coming since Wilson and FDR right on up the line. And until they make us totally like 3rd world countries, starving and without our guns O won’t be satisfied. Agenda 21. It’s just coming faster than ever anticipated.

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- SaturdaysWarrior76
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:54pm
  Very frightening indeed :(
  
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- Mudd
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:34pm
  I agree, but when you mention Agenda 21 to the majority of people they act as if your talking about Big Foot or the Loch Ness Monster. I seriously think more people believe in UFO’s and ghosts than Agenda 21.
  
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taxpro4u03
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:30pm
Bear this in mind: Obnoxiously proud Anglo-Saxon Manifest Destiny did NOT require the displacement of Native Americans to run thru the ‘iron horse.’ It did NOT require the killing to near extinction of the American Bison (a staple of survival – ALL parts of the animal were used) — it was done to CONTROL and ‘institutionalize on Reservations’ a people who understood the true meaning of freedom, and their responsibility to the Earth (Agenda 21 is soooooo ‘archaic’) — Does the Establishment now wish to put ALL 14th Amendment citizens on ‘reservations’ now?? THINK about it…..

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ExTex
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:28pm
“It’s time to have an adult conversation with folks in rural America”

That means only one thing…Folks in rural America are rapidly being “nudged” into metro areas by regulating them out of business. Farm subsidies may be a thing of the past in the big federal land-grab Agenda 21 “sustainablility” initiatives being exercised at will.

The states are going to have to stand up to the feds or it’s over.

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Jezcruzen
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:27pm
the guy speaks the truth, even if it might have been by accident.

Considering that all the population that matters to politicians now reside on both coasts packed away in the metro areas and surrounding suburbs, rural America is now the faded shadow in the back of the room. From an ag perspective, its the co-ops and corporate factory farms that are the heavy hitters now – the ones owned by the big wigs themselves and foreign interests. The family farms remaining will be eliminated in ones and twos by increasing taxes – property, real estate, and inheritance – or be done in as Agenda 21 is rammed down our throats as we continue to sit quietly and take it.

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thekuligs
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:24pm
This is why I want to own a farm. My husband is in the military so we save our pennies. I started writing books and we made more money to save more money; but with the declining dollar and soaring price of farmland it seems an impossible dream. I wish aging grandparents would stop leaving land to their children who only intend to sell it and divide the money. In America we lose more than an acre of farmland a minute. It becomes roads, and malls, and WalMarts, and subdivisions. We should not rely on the rest of the world for our food. They hate us, and we are the breadbasket!

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- jcldwl
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:47pm
  I hope you can get that small farm but you would be best to only use it to be self sufficient. If you write books keep writing books to make your money. Only farm what you need to survive on. If you make it a business the government will put you out of business.
  
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- thekuligs
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 1:51pm
  That is exactly what I want, to be self sufficient! I have zero desire to do it as a business. I just want to feed my family and be able to help the others I care about.
  
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- avoter
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 5:08pm
  If you merely want to be self sufficient you need to start thinking outside the box. How much land could you really hold if the government was coming after farmers? How much is enough to go unnoticed and still achieve your goal? How are you going to shield your crops from exposure to chemicals in the air and GMO seeds that spread to kill out your crops?
  
  On three acres you can sustain ten adults. If you lay it out properly and have year round yield. You need to go underground literally. That way your crops and animals don’t attract attention and you are for the most part safe from environmental factors. Light tubes – mirrors reflecting sun thru tubes underground have made underground gardens more than possible. Smaller animals can be just as productive, attract less attention and easier to maintain i.e. goats instead of cows.
  
  A small town not to far outside of the city may a better thought than “rural”, more affordable too. You need to look into what they are doing with underground dome housing also. If you and your husband have “do it yourself” capability it is easier than you think. I don’t imagine a 3 acre plot that just has a 10×12 storage building sitting on it (entrance) and a few small animals grazing attracts the attention a 100 acre farm does.
  
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- avoter
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 5:32pm
  Just remember to get far enough outside the city to avoid building codes. Make sure you work with someone who knows what they are doing when it comes to building underground – for safety. Check that the properties that surround yours don’t have extensive pipelines near your property line, if they do, build accordingly. Don’t finance anything. And, look for property in places that don’t count underground structures as taxable – crazy, but true – in some counties if they don‘t see it, they don‘t tax it. But, remember you will (almost) never be able to resell a underground home to someone who needs bank financing to purchase it.
  
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:24pm
When you’re starving to death let’s here what you have to say then you stupid SOB. Yes and your department is irrelevant and unconstitutional.

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- Oldphoto678
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:53pm
  He wasn’t insulting anyone you ignorant, toothless, moron. Everything he said is absolute truth. It’s true. rural America is shrinking, and as it does so shrinks it’s political power, among other things. So, what? Was it the choice of words? Did the word irrelevant hurt your feelings? I guess his choice of words wasn’t PC enough for you. BTW, The IGNORANT, TOOTHLESS, MORON part, well that was a real insult in case you’re still scratching your head.
  
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- Git-R-Done
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 2:30pm
  Oldphoto678 – And what you idiotic Marxists going to do when the economy collapses and you can’t get something to eat or find a house to live in or even use transportation? It’s the rural areas that provide all of those things that you need. And the same industries that provide you those things you need are the ones your side wants to destroy.
  
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bankerpapaw
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:22pm
What an idiot!!! We’ll see how relevant mid-America is when people are starving.

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- Watchingtheweasels
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 9:50am
  They’ll make you work your land at the end of the gun, and then take the crop just like they did in the Ukraine.
  
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gyro
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:18pm
goverment run farms worked great in china ?
now what did they call that?
forward ?

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DougHuffman
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:14pm
Cut’em off. Feed our own. But Vile-sack is right politically, a political map of US is a map of rural areas.

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- DougHuffman
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 2:15pm
  More from Vile-sack; USDA allowing more meat and grain in government creche meals
  
  http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SCHOOL_LUNCHES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-12-08-13-43-32
  
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DZ-015
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:03pm
Tom Vilsack o’Crap must need to go on a diet.

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- DZ-015
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:09pm
  The Soylent Green diet, that is.
  
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NOTAMUSHROOM
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:01pm
“after the Obama administration said repeatedly it had no so such intention”

Since when has the Obimbo administration, or even Obolshevik himself ever told the truth about anything?

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- stopprintn
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:08pm
  Just give me a minute I’m thinking………….
  
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- gyro
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:16pm
  times up
  and???????????????/
  
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- neverending
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:17pm
  That would be NEVER – he is a pathological liar – plain and simple
  
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- raderby
  Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:40pm
  Obloomers? – - the lying is way past pathological. bordering on psychotic: (AKA borderline personality disorder)::::
  
  Narcissistic / Insecure. Once again the borderline male is a paradox. He can appear to be incredibly confident, dashing, cavalier and quite full of himself. However beneath this thin veil of narcissism lives a very insecure man who feels both unworthy and unlovable..
  
  Hypersensitive. Borderline men are hypersensitive to real or perceived criticism. They are incredibly “thin skinned”. Any perceived criticism can send them into an angry rage.
  
  Other disorders. Men with BPD often have other mental health issues. These include depression, social anxiety, elements of NPD and AvPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Avoidant Personality Disorder), and OCD.
  
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bubbamoosecat
Posted on December 8, 2012 at 11:58am
Agenda 21…….

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- MGrilla
  Posted on December 8, 2012 at 12:26pm
  You can say that again.
  
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- beebacksoon
  Posted on December 10, 2012 at 5:27am
  bubbamoosecat:
  I agree. This is just another phase to be completed in AGENDA 21 (new name is Millienium Project. Other aka’s: Smart Growth and Sustainable Development).
  Our govt will be TAKING land by way of eminent domain; EPA regulations and the “endangered species act. Humans will be forced into smaller and smaller areas – all with bike and pedestrian paths; more busses; high rises with smaller sq. footage to live in. I’m sure you’ve noticed more articles in magazines and newspapers touting smaller, more efficient and affordable places to live.
  
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