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Republican Sen. Coburn: ‘Yes’ I Will Accept Tax Increases in Fiscal Cliff Deal

Republican Sen. Tom Coburn: Yes I Will Accept Tax Increases in Fiscal Cliff Deal

AP

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) on Sunday reaffirmed his stance that he would accept tax increases as part of a deal to avert the coming “fiscal cliff,” one of a handful of Republicans to indicate movement on the issue.

Coburn said on ABC’s “This Week” that the U.S. has spent “ourselves into a hole” and that no amount of raising taxes alone will solve the problem, but that he would consider doing so as part of a package deal.

“Will I accept tax increases as part of a deal to actually solve our problems? Yes, but the president’s negotiating with the wrong people,” Coburn said. “He needs to be negotiating with our bond holders in China, because if we don’t put a credible plan on — the discussion, ultimately, we all lose.”

Coburn said last week he would rather see rates go up instead of merely capping deductions.

Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) also signaled willingness to move on tax rates, telling “Fox News Sunday” that letting rates go up on the top 2 percent of earners in return for entitlement cuts is the “best route for us to take.”

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Comments (155)

  • Ghandi was a Republican
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:27pm

    Just because he says he is considering something, doesn’t mean he is going to do it. So ease up. We are dealing with liars and tax cheats over on obama’s side. They say all kinds of thing. It’s the actions. If Coburn actually votes for a TAX increase (later) without getting at least double in specified cuts up front he best just vote “present” and wash his hands of obamnomics. You get ones single Republican to put their hands on it and the Loons radical alinsky weasels will point and say it was the Republican plan. WASH HANDS PLEASE

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:46pm

      At least the republicans are no longer acting like cuts to medicare are a bad thing……good thing it is not election season anymore

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 2:12pm

      The sooner NBC, CBS, ABC & the rest of the leftwing media is gone the better. The same goes for Cobert & Maher. Between people voting for benefits they did not earn & leftwing media giving anyone with a (D) behind their name 15 points in a presidential election or opinion poll, sensible economic policies are unlikely.

      If any taxes increases are agreed upon, then when the tax receipt come ion lower, the economy slows, we need to get into the face of every leftists politician & activist and rub it in their face until they blanch. Every time they are debating it needs those facts need to be called out interrupting many times until they can no longer think.

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    • Ghandi was a Republican
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 2:14pm

      They need to kill off dead programs the Federal Gov has no business in. The Dept of ed – FAIL! That has to go. It does 1,000s% more damage than just the costs it racks up. It is the basis for progressive engineering which is purely un-American manipulation. It’s CHILD ABUSE! Start there and mos everything else will naturally begin a correction!

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    • wordsofwisdom
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 3:54pm

      Let it freeking crash & stop Obama in his tracks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Keatonc33
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 4:52pm

      “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
      -Gandhi…the republican…

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 5:04pm

      Cut 15% across the board on all welfare programs.

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    • johnpaulkuchtajr
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 5:22pm

      Formula for national financial well being going forward:

      1. All corporations with overseas accounts holding profits from foreign operations to repatriate the cash within one calendar year tax free on a schedule prescribed by the Treasury. With an estimated $13 trillion overseas, allow companies to bring that cash back here untaxed if they use it ONLY on capital improvements.

      2. Eliminate the 64,000 pages of IRS regulations and institute the Fair Tax at 22% on new item purchases. That means no corporate or personal income taxes. Shift all the IRS staff to Treasury to help monitor the tax collection effort.

      3. Limit the deficit spending to no more than 3.5% over the preceding year’s tax receipts.

      Follow the 3 steps above and this economy would literally charge ahead.

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    • 1947
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 6:17pm

      Corker just said that they will get things done. Coburn and Corker just go over the CLIFF it’s the OBAMA commie way…….

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    • SendTheMeteors
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 10:07pm

      President Obama ran for the Presidency partly but explicitly on letting Bush’s TEMPORARY tax cuts on marginal tax rate of people earning more than 250K expire. He won. And polls now show that 60% of Americans support Obama on this issue.

      This will of We The People should be important when making decisions. I have seen enough opinions on this website to know that the positions of We The People doesn’t count here when you disagree with the majority of Americans.

      The concept of “We the People,” heralded here as a rallying call is empty when “We the People” disagree with the fringe ideas of the right that you represent. We the People disagree with you. The majority disagree with you. Try to wrap you arms around the fact that the majority of Americans disagree with you. This is America. If you want rule by the minority then try another less democratic country.

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    • TulsaYeeHaw
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:50pm

      Just because a majority wants to be immoral, doesn’t make it moral. The ONLY reason for increasing taxes, is to decrease the amount of income someone takes home, and YOU KNOW IT. That is called ENVY. You lefty liberty haters don’t like how much we have, so you want make us have less. However they ONLY way you can do that legally is the tax code. So you bitch and complain that over 35% isn’t their “fair share,” yet you’ll never say what percentage the “fair share” is.

      So please, tell us low intellect right wing bigots how you aren’t really communist, even though you advocate communist plank #2.

      At least you progressives are lying less about who you are. It took 100 years of taking over the education and media to “prep” the people to accept your lies about progressive communist utopia, and prior to this, when you started to tell people who you really were you lost your collectivist asses.
      Congratulations on that. Now go to hell.

      Liberty or Death.

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    • dcatkin
      Posted on December 10, 2012 at 7:52am

      Yet another republican to prove that they to are a worthless bunch of idiots.

      http://freeourcountry.org

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    • Trigus
      Posted on December 10, 2012 at 1:45pm

      You want true change. Stop having your employer take out Federal Income Tax. This will bring true change,

      Simple thing to do is have a flat tax. No loop holes. Everyone pays the same percentage rate. If it is 15 or 18 percent then everyone pays there fair share and we can do away with IRS.

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    • ThePirateRagnar
      Posted on December 10, 2012 at 4:49pm

      @ SendtheMeteors…

      Are they no longer teaching in our schools of higher education the fact that this great Country of ours is not now, nor has it ever been a democracy. It is a Republic, a nation of laws. Not a nation of majority rules.

      After the signing of the Constitution, when asked what kind of Government the founders gave us, Ben Franklin replied, “We gave you a Republic, if you can keep it”.

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:20pm

    Our one party system is full of progressives because they believe in higher taxes and more regulation.
    Did you see republicans make government smaller with eight years of Bush? No you didn’t,the government got bigger and bigger with increased spending and regulations,now Barry along with progressive republicans are going to raise taxes and it isn’t going to help at all in fact it’ll do more harm to the economy. But Barry has to make it look like he’s ‘looking out for the little guy’,it’s part of his never ending campaigning.

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  • MiCurmudgeon
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:13pm

    The “Rich” and the “Big Corporations ” hire tax lawyers and Lobbyists so that loopholes ( exemptions)
    are written into the tax code so that their taxable incomes are low or non-existant. If the tax rate on low or non-existant income is raised to 100% there still is no money going to the government. Exemptions must be cut to insure what Oblamer wants.

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  • Red Bubba
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:07pm

    There is no relationship between taxes and spending.
    The issue is that simple. Any politician who won’t admit it is harmful.

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    • Keatonc33
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 2:46pm

      except that heightening taxes creates more revenue in which to spend.. so other than the two having everything to do with each other, your right

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    • daragon32
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 3:55pm

      Keaton,
      Explain to me how raising taxes increases more revenue please. All it really does is prevent more people from becoming wealthy. Those who are already wealthy will keep their money. And if they put it in an account overseas, can’t tax it.

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    • moreoilplease
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 4:53pm

      Raising taxes generally depresses revenue.

      It’s not linear.

      Current revenue is at record levels.

      Spending is out of control.

      The Federal Government needs to be reduced to about 1/4 the size it is now.

      Medicare and Social Security: The only way we’re going to honor this commitment is to inflate the money. Checks will keep going no matter how big the deficit is. They just wont be able to by a loaf of bread with it.

      Big cuts in the defense department, BIG cuts. Military needs to get slim. No choice.

      Of coarse the government will never willingly reduce it’s own size, until it collapses.

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    • Marine25
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 5:21pm

      @moreoilplease
      Revenue as a percentage of GDP is lower than at any time since 1984. Income Tax rates are lowest since 1940.
      http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/revenue_chart_1900_2010USp_13s1li011mcn_10t

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on December 10, 2012 at 2:38am

      Marine25 – No proof that raising taxes will help the deficit. Excuse me if the rich do not owe you freeloading Marxist bums anything in life.

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  • BlackCrow
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:06pm

    These spineless RINOS are going to find themselves taken out at the convention and primary level more and more frequently. They can take Tea Party representatives out of their committee positions but the Tea Party is working to take the spineless RINOS out. We have been successful so far and will continue to gain momentum. Your days are numbered RINO!

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  • FULLMAG16
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:59pm

    Cliff…Here we come!! Lets do this!!!

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    • chucksue351
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 3:18pm

      maybe the polititians have learned hang gliding and feel this will be the perfect cliff to try out their wings

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    • theaton
      Posted on December 10, 2012 at 2:32pm

      We’ve already run over the cliff. Like the coyote in the road runner cartoons, most citizens are too stupid to realize it.

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  • TheGreatMan
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:55pm

    Who the hell really cares at this stage of the game. I’m gonna sit back and watch the show. Not one damn thing can I do about it. All politicans are pathological liars.

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  • TRILO
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:50pm

    Another sellout Republican. A note to all politicians in Congress: the federal reserve and US government agencies own just as much or more US Debt than the Chinese. China is not buying our debt anymore. Please stop the lies and nationalistic rhetoric.

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  • BasketFullOfPuppies
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:45pm

    Its over.

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    • Lordchamp
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:04pm

      No, not over, just forcing us to change our plans. When a people has had their heads buried for as pong as we have it takes a long time to change and make the proper adjustments and responses to things that happen.

      We have underestimate out opponents but that does not mean defeat. It means change strategy.

      In my estimation we need to treat this as a guerrilla operation. Read history of how many of the small elements of history fought the larger elements. In this instance, I’m not talking about violence but the strategy is the same. Few opposing the attacks of the many.

      You do it in small groups but incessantly making them have to respond over and over to the many spread out attacks so they can’t combine forces.

      We need to take over the social media sites to begin with by making small groups of people to respond to anything and everything the liberals post that is questionable. Force them to spend time responding incessantly. This does several things. I cause them to use resources, and it gets out an opposing message to others that are merely reading and not responding.

      Imagine what the results would be if we began showing up are every liberal press conference or event and began chanting something opposite to what they are saying. Just like they do and have done for years now.

      Get the idea?

      No one can say we have done what we needed to do at this point. We are all guilty of complacency but it has to stop now.

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  • Vickie Dhaene
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:44pm

    Would that include tax increases and actual taxex paid by GE and all the other Obama CRONIES?

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  • DDD
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:34pm

    The old guard are removing the new guard from their committees, the old are now giving in to the democrats – giving them their tax hikes and will use the carrot of presidential debt limit control to try and get spending cuts. They are willing to give up constitutional control!!!!! Why isn’t the Blaze all over this? They will never get the cuts from the left – no matter what they’re promised. Boehner is selling the party and the country down the river.

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:44pm

      I do not care what seniority they have on any committee they need to be removed from their posts!
      We do need term limits for congress. These ass’s are no better then their counter parts!

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:46pm

      People like Allen West scared the bejesus out of them!

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    • ScottG-CO
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 2:55pm

      D³- Boehner is doing exactly what needs to be done- all be it for the wrong reasons. There is no longer any difference between the parties- it’s all hot air to arrive at the same end.

      YOUGOTTABEKIDDING- We HAVE term limits, they are called elections- the problem is that the ones already in office know what to promise a constituency that votes themselves goodies now.
      You are absolutely correct- West scares the bejeepers out of BOTH parties- that’s why the RNC did nothing to help him force discovery of the stolen re-election.

      Let us face the facts- it won’t be easy for any of us “99ers” but we MUST let the Dems have everything they want so they OWN the failure. Time and time again the world has been down this path and time and time again it has failed. The Dems MUST BE FORCED TO OWN THIS!

      Best choice is to hunker down and keep you and yours safe. Ammo, Food, and Water- the NEW CURRENCY! (hereafter known only as AFW- the new slogan of the 47% of makers)

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  • Saff SGT
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:26pm

    Most congress is crooked and on the take, **** can all of them excepr Tea party who follow the constitution and bill of rights and never deviate for any reason ever

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  • OlefromMN
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:17pm

    ATTN: Blaze Staff,

    Please use quotes when referring to progressives as Republicans. Such as.. ” ‘Republican’ Sen. Cobern to accept tax increases…”

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:58pm

      They should define exactly which branch of Republican they are; RINO, Conservative, Tea Party, Progressive, Democrats disguised as Republicans (Arlen Spector, Charlie Crist, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins).

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    • Marine25
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 5:15pm

      So Tom Coburn is a progressive because he would accept taxes going up? Tom Frickin’ Coburn? You tea-partiers are the most petulant, politically tone-deaf crowd I have ever seen. “Vote with us 99% of the time? Well get OUT you traitor, progressive RINO communist!”
      Don’t you realize everytime you show an elected Republican the party door, a lot of voters sneak out with him? Don’t believe me? Senator Lugar can still be reached at his Senate office for another 2 weeks, call him, he’ll tell you the same thing. Shrink the party, or better yet, do what Anonymous to Irrelevant suggests, break the party into 5 or 6 smaller sub-parties. Either way, your dogmatism will outlive the GOP and I think that’s a shame.

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  • Saff SGT
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:16pm

    Coburn needs a fist sandwhich, he’s afraid of his job and all the land deals. prostitutes, gays, health ins, payola, and kick backs he is getting and wants to save all of it for his future. he should be fired and deported and replaced with a Tea party real American

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  • Rock_Moninoff
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:05pm

    Let’s all follow Kalifornia and vote ourselves a tax increase. Coburn is a fool.

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  • 1776freedomofspeech
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:58am

    Symbolism over substance. Everyone is saying that the proposed tax increases on the top earners will not affect the financial problems we face. And that it is in fact a “face saving” move by the administration and democrats to force this action, as a sort of “campaign promise” fulfilled.
    Republicans and the TEA party need to stand together on this and other issues or they will fall separately. Their bargaining power would be stronger if they would only stand together.

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    • Lordchamp
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:23pm

      Not gonna happen. The hand writing is on the wall. Boehner clearing out the conservatives. DeMint retiring because he sees the end is here. More and more RINOS giving in. Conservatism in this government is done, finished, DEAD!

      The only hope now is a full reset which is coming in some form or another. Either forced of indirect…it will happen. History does not lie and not only are we doomed to repeat it…WE ALREADY ARE, almost word for word.

      Prepare for the worst and be ready to take control in the aftermath. It’s the only hope we have left at this point. We’ve lost this battle…time to prepare to not lose the war.

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    • WildschweinJager
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:36pm

      Nobody is listening in Wash D.C.

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    • civilwarcometh
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:01pm

      War is comeing. Constituion or death.

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    • WildschweinJager
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:16pm

      To: CivilWarCometh,

      No disrespect meant to you but, I can’t see anyone wanting that to happen in anyway.

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    • civilwarcometh
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:28pm

      No one wants civil war but it’s either going to happen or we lose all our freedoms.

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    • CHROME_PLATED_HEART
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 1:34pm

      Welcome to the new two-party system, Us and them.

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  • JSherrillj
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:52am

    Well, as they keep saying ” We won”. Now we all know that if the conservatives had won the presidency that all the liberal would have abandoned their principles and voted for lower taxes and cutting welfare, closing the borders and reversing Roe V Wade. Yeah right…rub a lamp.

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  • elvisroy0000
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:50am

    To the idiots saying what a surprise what choice do they have if they want anything you seen any evidence Obama and Dems willing to Do or Comprimise in any Way maybe you should think before speeking Merry Christmas http://yahooroyschapel.blogspot.com/

    http://youtu.be/6EFuv9IXF1c

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    • usedCZARsalesman
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:12pm

      What’s your point ELVIS? You stand FIRM in your convictions and everyday you explain to the American people why you cannot, in good faith, vote for what the Dems as asking and they simply refuse to do ANYTHNG about spending so they won’t sign your bills…the voters will hold these faux conservatives the door if they continue to appease

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  • Stelex
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:45am

    Here’s some nice stats on taxes…….as the title suggests “Show this to anyone who thinks taxes are to low”

    http://www.infowars.com/show-this-to-anyone-that-believes-that-taxes-are-too-low/

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:20pm

      You got something better than Alex Jones’ Infowars?? Jus’ sayin…

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    • Lordchamp
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:31pm

      If the facts are correct what does it matter where it comes from. Don’t be so small minded as to just shut something out because of where it comes from. Just do your homework if the think the statements are incorrect and prove them so. If they are found to be correct, then that is what you needed…regardless of the source. Search for truth and facts in many sources and verify, verify, verify as closely as you can.

      In this day and time of wide-spread propaganda it is certainly difficult but not impossible to do.

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    • Stelex
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:35pm

      I know Time, I don’t do Infowars often, but once in a while he does have a valid article. I think that is one. A coworker sent it to me, I double checked some of the facts and its a valid article. I know I pay a good percentage of that list of taxes. How bout you……

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:38pm

      “If” the facts are correct what does it matter where it comes from.

      Key word… “if”…

      Sorry “if” I offended those who would get their facts from “Infowars.” Forgive me for my small-mindedness…

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:54pm

      Okay STELEX… I’ll be your Huckleberry on this one and check it out… and compare to what else I find in relation to.

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    • Lordchamp
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:54pm

      No offense taken at all. You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. However, I also believe in encouraging where I can which is what my post was meant to do. If we completely alienate people who might think differently then we also lose this war and lose any chance of waking them up to the truth.

      It’s apparent that you are concerned with finding truth or you would not have taken the time to respond.

      Continue the search wherever it leads you. I’ll just hope it leads all of us to the correct sources. In my opinion that is mostly historical sources that are proven with time. Many, but not all current sources, are as corrupt as the crap they spew.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 2:18pm

      time2 thinks only evil can come from infowars….He also thinks only good can come from RNC

      This is how he views the world

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    • AUsername
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 4:32pm

      they want to raise our taxes to send our troops off to war in the middle east in syria or iran to benefit the foreign country, corporations and banks that the iraq invasion benefited.

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    • Stelex
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 6:01pm

      Still waiting Time2……..can’t wait to hear your analysis of the article……..vapid is as vapid does. Learn to notice facts not sources. Facts are facts all sources are suspect.

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  • Daddy Hawg
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:44am

    Apparently these “republicans” are not smart enough to play chess. They have been duped by “the one” and his minions so many times before. “Let’s give them what they want and maybe they’ll throw us a bone.” The elected officials in office need to buckle down and do do the right thing, not place the fate of the US on hope and a prayer!

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  • karen162
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:44am

    Its going to be a shock that America is in no way ready for. Its going to hurt like hell, and its going to be terrifying and thousands upon thousands are going to die in the riots. My eyes are wide open on this. Every Republican should just vote, “present” and let Pres Obama own this. The economy is going to tank. I would rather that we, who enabled these people to do this to us, be the ones to suffer for it, not our children. Our children will be even less equiped to handle the collapse than we are. We need to face the music ourselves.

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    • Advection
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:59am

      Republicans should go a step further and demand that all negotiations be broadcast on CSPAN. We aren’t talking abut national secrets here, so the only reason for making these deals TOP SECRET is political.

      If there were statesmen in charge, they would allow the People to watch them make legislation.

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    • Trail_Jumper
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:10pm

      That’s been my thinking, too. It’s going to happen eventually, and with the schools like they are and society like it is, our kids will not be emotionally, physically, or spiritually equipped to deal with it when it happens. Let it happen now while we’re here and we’ll bear the brunt of it. After all, our generation was the generation that voted in for many of these @sshats in washington who did this to our country.

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    • Saff SGT
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:21pm

      I would not give Obama anything hes a Muslim jerk off who got us where we are now because of stupid spending. All America needs to suffer for the way they vote I am all for this, I have been suffering for 4 years whats another 4 years. I hope all you free loaders get whacked good and see how the non beggers get by in America then you will know what it is to be a real American and how to abide bt the constitution and bill of rights

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  • kvan
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:42am

    skippy6, exactly right.
    Everytime the RINOS compromise with the dem-socialsts the US becomes even more of a socialists/commi country. It’s been going on for the past 60 or 70 years or more.
    I wonder if the so-called entitlement cuts are really cuts or simply a cut in the amount on increase, that’s what washington considers a cut.

    We need a strong majority of Tea Party Conservatives in both houses of congress and a strong conservative President. Then get the spending under control back to levels in the 70′s or 80′s.

    It’s time US Federal Government learned to live on a realistic budget, not one designed to curry favors and votes.

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  • jadams1214
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:39am

    Big surprise! Big government Republicans wanting to tax and spend more. Just ignore this people and vote Republican in 2014 and everything will be ok.

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    • Lordchamp
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:18pm

      Just what do you suppose is going to change the minds of people that DIDN’T vote republican this time?

      You can’t really believe that at this point anything will except for some MAJOR incident like an economic crash, war, etc. Even then it is unlikely at this point.

      The best we can hope for is that the system hurries up and crashes so we then have the opportunity to replace it. THAT is what we need to be ready to do because you can believe since the globalist have been the ones engineering all this garbage that they most definitely are ready.

      At this point, hope for the worst, prepare for the worst and then hope we beat them to the punch in rebuilding. It’s all that’s left. This past election showed that very clearly and if we continue to bury our heads in the sand without acknowledging it…WE LOSE….PERMANENTLY!!!

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  • sam1064
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:36am

    I am saddened today, I had a lot of respect for Senator Coburn, he has shown us plenty of government waste, yet he too is infected with the bug that Obama and his cohorts wants what is good for America. When will they realize that what is happening is what Obama wants. He is a disciple of the Cloward and Priven strategy of burdening the government with so much debt and obligations that forces it to either collapse or force it to transform it into one where the “rich” are “punished”
    But for all those middle class supporters of Obama, remember to many of his dependents, YOU are rich.

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  • skippy6
    Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:36am

    Just another progressive republican that makes no sense…..I say go off the cliff,and reset everything..Less pain now…

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:38am

      amen

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    • jadams1214
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 11:41am

      99% of republicans are progressive.

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    • grimmster
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:06pm

      Damn skippy, Skippy;p The republican party is dead,has been for years,most in it, not all mind you, are progressives//commies anyway.There will come a reckoning, in the near future i believe,that will crush these traiters.We the people can not allow this to go on much longer, and, like our founding fathers, i believe there will be a revolt,not against the govt.but against the politician who run it……

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    • gyro
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 12:23pm

      off the cliff we go

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    • absolutelynot
      Posted on December 9, 2012 at 3:05pm

      “hands raised” woooohoooo

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