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Chris Matthews Loses Debate With Veteran Badly: ‘I Was Actually Fighting in Iraq’

Dec. 10, 2012 11:15pm Jason Howerton

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During a debate with a Log Cabin Republican about the GOP’s opposition to gay marriage and the party’s current rebranding effort, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews passionately asked his guest whether he was fighting against “Karl Rove” and other Bush-era political players. He was apparently hoping to make a point that his conservative guest is only pushing back against the GOP now that they lost an election.

Truth be told, Matthews’ guest, R. Clarke Cooper, of the Log Cabin Republicans, was not fighting in the political realm in 2004 — because he was actually fighting for America in Iraq.

Salon’s Joan Walsh started the conversation by saying that Republicans who are trying to “liberalize” the GOP are working against the establishment that is “hidebound” to a “white, conservative, Christian, very backwards base.”

“It’s worse than that, Joan,” Matthews added. “You guys, Karl Rove and your buddies, remember Karl Rove? Eight years ago you went up to Ohio and you went up to Cleveland in the black areas and you basically went to the black ministers…and Don King…and you rallied all them” to fight gay marriage.

“And that, in ’04, that was an exploding cigar, and we’re paying a price for that as a Republican party,” Cooper agreed.

“Where were you then,” Matthews shot back. “Did you fight Karl Rove?”

“I was actually fighting in Iraq. I was deployed in ’04,” Cooper answered. “There you go.”

“OK. Touché,” Matthews said sheepishly. “You win. You win.”

After trying to laugh it off, Matthews thanked Cooper for his service and said he had a “very good alibi.”

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Comments (212)

MCGIRV
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 1:00am
It’s not so much that more people are supporting gay marriage it’s that more and more people are so sick of the battle and don’t give a damn! Have your gay marriage and shut up and leave us alone!

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- TreeTrimmerJim
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 1:50am
  First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out–
       because I was not a communist; (red shirts)
  Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out–
       because I was not a socialist; (brown shirts… night of the long knives)
  Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out–
       because I was not a trade unionist;
  Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out–
       because I was not a Jew;
  Then they came for me–
       and there was no one left to speak out for me.
  
  –Martin Niemöller
  
  We the People of the United States in order to Form a more Perfect Union… said each of us must contribute or this house of cards falls. Part of contributing is family. We need educated individuals in a strong family.
  
  Gay marriage would allow mothers to marry daughters, fathers to marry sons, sisters to marry sisters and brothers to marry brothers. Marry means to raise a family. We have legal contracts for property. We have power of attorney for non family.
  
  We either stand for something or fall for anything.
  
  What do you stand for?
  
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- KarateChopp
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 2:50am
  Hoorah @TreeTrimmerJim!
  
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- jrc99
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 4:20am
  @TreeTrimmerJim
  
  I stand for the Matrix of Liberty FAITH + MORALITY + LAW + EDUCATION = LIBERTY.
  
  HOOYAH Tree!
  
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- Concerned Green Beret
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 4:21am
  Actually, more people are not supporting gay marriage. 41 states currently outlaw gay marriage either by law or constitutional amendment. If you look at the votes, I mean actual votes and not propagandized polls, gay marriage has lost resoundingly. The states that have victories for the most part have won thru courts that have usurped the votes of the people (with the exception of the two states which are so damn liberal stalin would love to live there). So if you step away from the propaganda on tv you will see the people really don’t want this. Even California voted against it overwhelmingly, not once, but if memory serves me right 3 straight times (no pun on straight).
  
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- orionreplay6607
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 5:59am
  Watching the news, you’d think gay marriage was the new iPhone or pair of sneakers. It’s shiny and new and what everyone wants for Christmas! It’s only a matter of time before all the states get it.
  
  MSM is using “news” as a form of propaganda, to make you believe that you ARE the only one is hasn’t gotten onboard yet. It’s on the news. In your magazines. In the latest sitcom on television. Comedy sketches on SNL. Pretty soon it will be on your kids’ Happy Meals.
  
  This is straight up psychological warfare for your vote. You will eventually comply and vote ‘yes’ because you have finally accepted it as something you can’t change. It’s everywhere. You just want the quiet again and ask, will a ‘yes’ shut you up?
  
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- nzkiwi
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:45am
  @ McGirv
  
  I think that a lot of people are reacting as you suggest, but in my opinion, they are not thinking clearly.
  
  Illinois’ Alan Keyes is both clear thinking and plain speaking is this debate a few years ago with Mr Obama…
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMYBl2uzXEw&feature=related
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:43am
  I still care, nations that embrace homosexuality and view it as normal soon after fall,.
  
  gays are only 2.5% of the population, they have 64% of the nations syphilis, they made up 57% of new HIV cases last year, they commit a third of the nations child molestations, they have the highest suicide rates, and way higher drug and alcohol abuse rates. They are an unhealthy and diseased people who assault each other at alarming rates, and they have a vested interest in the recruitment of children.
  
  Homosexuality is a deviant behavior
  
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- LIBSALWAYSLIE
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:45am
  One small step at a time, were turning into a third world hell hole. Thank you progressives.
  
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- francisco
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:02am
  Homosexuality is a deviant behavior. However I have a gay uncle and I love him like an uncle I don’t agree with him being gay, but that is his choice. I also don’t believe this is a Federal, State or even local issue. It is a religious issue, give all the gays the contractual benefits of a marriage but let religion and the church decide to define it as a marriage. What the Gov. should do is enact laws that protect the church whenever Tom and Harry demand to be married and the church tells them to go pound salt. We are giving this issue to much attention anyways and by doing that we are giving it justification, lets focus on something else turn the attention somewhere else and when the church tells the LBGT crowd to screw off nobody will pay attention.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:09am
  Francisco
  
  is getting married to your cousin or sister a “religious” issue only?
  
  Is having multiple wives a “religious” issue only?
  
  Is a thirty five year old man having sex with a ten year old boy a “religious ” issue only? (that one will follow gay marriage in the not so far off future).
  
  Sexual deviance destroys families and nations. Be it rape, child molestation, having sex with animals, or homosexuality. It is deviant, it goes against nature, and is against the family and the nation.
  
  You can have your own opinion, but not your own truth.
  
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- Ballot_Box_Revolution
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:16am
  The reason this is the new message (“Gay marriage is good”) is because people are starting to ask questions that lead to the real debate that we should be having. “Should the Government even be involved in marriage?”
  
  “Let the gays get married, so people will get their mind off marriage and we can keep that power.” Spiritual people (many cultures have a marriage system, and they all involve higher powers) should be outraged that Government took the place of God, or Gods.
  
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- bandi9
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:18am
  That is so true. if it makers the proponenets feel better, who gives a crap? We know its wrong, but that will be judged at a later time and place
  
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- Honestybefore truth
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:20am
  I truly could not care less what two consent adults do within the confines of the home. Saying that I think that Government should have stayed out of the marriage issue from the beginning. A judge cannot marry anyone, marriage is a sacrament preformed by an official of the given religion. Judges (in that capacity) can really only perform civil unions. My concern ( and I think it’s likely to happen) is that some LGTB activist will sue a Priest or Pastor (for following the dictates of his religion) if he refuses to perform such a marriage. Though I don’t even at this juncture such a suit would be ultimately successful, the costs could be devastating tho the pastor or Priest and their Churches.
  
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- Ballot_Box_Revolution
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:25am
  marriage today is not about love, it is about perks, freebees tax breaks. No one will speak out against government pushing god out of the marriage system because they want their perks, just like the Obama people want their Obama Phones.
  
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- Favored93
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:37am
  rangerskippy
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:43am
  I still care, nations that embrace homosexuality and view it as normal soon after fall…
  ——-
  Could not agree with you more! Well said!
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:38am
  the emperor is not only naked, he is wearing a pink bolo around his neck, and daring anyone to notice
  
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- Michigander
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:46am
  It’s also the gaystapo and the non-stop bullying that you get if you oppose anything on their agenda.
  
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- APROUDVETERAN
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:58am
  Permit *ag marriage and then where does it end? Why couldn’t the law be expanded for these deviates to not only get married but maybe sleep with their favorite farm animal or animal(s)…..they already have their legal “unions” in many states and worse yet, they are given the right to adopt children. A friend of mine is a psychologist in this state. She worked –she now is retired -in a local school system where she was part of a Child Study Team. Over her career she dealt with quite a few messed up kids who had been raised by these deviates. Talk about identity crisis !! Little girls just transitioning into puberty were cautioned not to get involved with boys but rather seek and maintain girlfriends while all the while these kids were brainwashed by their “parents” about how wonderful the gay lifestyle was…….VERY sick….
  
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- tbeachhead
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 9:05am
  Here was the sin of your sister Sodom, here was the downfall of Gomorrah: They had PRIDE, FULLNESS of BREAD, ABUNDANCE of IDLENESS, and they DIDN’T CARE for the POOR and the NEEDY. No homosexuality in the indictment at all…Just the US of A, a nation bent on entertaining itself to death.
  
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- searcher619
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 9:32am
  TreeTrimmerJim:
  
  Nice try but that tired thing does not apply here. Gay marriage isn’t and never has been illegal anywhere in the US. You seem to think you are in some Middle Eastern country. You are not. Gays have been free to marry. The debate here is government acknowledgement of the marriages. The fact that they shower benefits only on “traditional” married couples is the issue. It’s not about legality. There is no law which criminalizes same sex marriages. Why? Because any such law would automatically be trashed by the supreme court due to the fact that such laws would be unconstitutional.
  
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- zorro
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 10:01am
  These headlines are really starting to piss me off. He didn’t win any debate. They didn’t show us any debate. He was asked a question and he answered he was fighting in Iraq. Are we really this desperate for good news that we are starting to make s**t up to make us feel better?
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 10:20am
  tbeachhead
  
  Sodom was destroyed, and was wicked. The people of Sodom Gomorrah were partaking in homosexuality. The two angels visited lots house, and the sodomites surrounded the house, and wanted to have sex with what they thought to be two visiting men.
  
  In Lev 18 22, were at told that men that have sex with men are an abomination.
  
  In Romans chapter on, it tells us that homosexuals are wicked (both lesbians and sodomites), and calls them reprobates.
  
  The Bibles is very clear that a marriage is between a man and a woman, and is also very clear that homosexuality is evil. World history clearly shows us that nations that embrace homosexuality soon after fall, and science shows us that homosexuals are a diseased and unhealthy people. Crime reports show us that they prey on children, and assault each other at an alarming rate.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 10:27am
  When you read Old Testament, you will see that the kings Asa, Jehoshaphat and Josiah tore down the worship places of the SODOMITES. These were not people from Sodom, Sodom was already destroyed. Sodomites in the KJV is used to mean homosexuals.
  
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- Average_Joseph
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 10:53am
  @ RANGERSKIPPY
  
  “Occupy Straight”
  
  I am part of the 97.5%!!!!
  
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- frust@ted
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 11:40am
  We often say that more gun laws won’t stop the criminals from getting guns, they are going to get them anyway.
  
  That being said, if you think that homosexuality is a deviant behaivor how do you think by not allowing homosexuals to get married that will stop that deviant behaivor?
  
  Get goverment out of marriage? This has never made any sense to me, if you beleive in God, marriage is then beteween you, your wife(husband) and God, why does the govmt need to be involved.
  
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- DoGooder
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 11:54am
  Chris Mathews (and several others) are a very real threat to America. I’m done with the “press” sham. They are subversives disguised as journalist. They should be tried as traitors and if convicted, they should be hung in a public hanging. All of them!
  
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- Webeenhad
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:06pm
  I agree…give it a rest. Gay people are the most militant people I’ve ever met. Seriously, what is your problem ( I guess maybe you think being gay is a problem), be gay and just leave us the f#*k alone. Stop trying to make the rest of us gay. ********!
  
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- Bring_back_the_Republic
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:13pm
  Let them have their gay marraige and then what? They will continue pushing for anything they want until we give in. What kind of statement does that give to the nation? “We can have whatever we want because they are weak and manipulative.” We need to step up for what is right and stand strong.
  But what is “right?” This is the true battle that needs to be won. Everyone’s definition of right and wrong is different. This comes down to the religious argument of evolution vs. creationism. If one believes in the religion of evolution, than there are no morals and values. If one believes in the religion of creationism, than there are morals, values, and virtues.
  Today, right is wrong and wrong is right. Bad is good and good is bad. Evil is right and good is evil. This world is upside down.
  
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- OlderCowGirl
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:41pm
  Personally, I don’t care what same-sex people do. None of my business. Does not affect me one way of the other. But my Bible-beliefs say it’s not a good thing, in fact same-sex anything is loathsome.
  
  But the good part is that same-sex partners cannot create another human…and that’s good for population/birth control. I think just somewhat better than killing a gazzilion unborn/born babies.
  In my view there’s a whole lot more bad things going on in the world than homosexuality.
  
  So…which is worse: same-sex sex, or murdering defenseless unborn (or born) babies?
  
  My answer is that it’s worse to murder/torture unborn/born babies. The babies don’t have a choice.
  Homosexuality has a choice.
  
  Whether you believe in Christianity or not…one day God will sort it all out.
  And He will be very angry.
  
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- Minnaloushe
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 1:41pm
  @TreeTrimmer
  “Gay marriage would allow mothers to marry daughters, fathers to marry sons”
  
  Logic isn’t your strong suit is it?
  
  I suppose heterosexual marriage lets fathers marry daughters and mothers marry sons.
  
  I don’t care what your viewpoint is, just make a coherent one.
  
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- mensa141
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 3:13pm
  Treetrimmer has a good point about incest. If gays do succeed in being married then should there be laws against gays marrying their sons or daughters or sisters? There will be no progeny so one need not worry about inbreeding as with heterosexuals. Interesting depravity that isn’t?
  
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- crazedbanshee
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 3:24pm
  @ Rangerskippy – I agree with much of what you have said, but i want to have a little fun, so here we go. King David had many wives and concubines and yet this was said of him.
  
  1 Kings 15:5
  5 Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, SAVE ONLY in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. (emphasis added)
  
  If it was not wrong for David to take multiple wives, or concubines we can also assume that Abraham did “that which is right in the eyes of the lord” by taking multiple wives and concubines
  
  Gen 25:6
  6 But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country.
  
  Whats your explanation of that?
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 4:33pm
  crazedbanshee
  
  That is an awesome question, and most likely some one will jump in and give a better answer than I.
  
  For some reason, many in the old Testament did have multiple wives. It always seemed to me, that those that did, always had problems from it, including Solomen, david, Abraham (big problems when he slept with his wife’s handmaid), and so on.
  
  I believe Isaac, Job, and some others in the OT only had one wife, and seemed better off for it.
  
  I do know that in the NT, we are told to have only one wife. I will research it, and see if I can come back and do better.
  
  Thanks,
  
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- checkingbothsides
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 4:52pm
  @RANGER nice slippery slope there buddy. I guess I should expect no less from a group of people who think that bike paths are a gateway to UN takeover of the country. What part of “Consenting adults” don’t you understand? Leave people alone to live their lives. Geez.
  
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- Keatonc33
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:31pm
  Treetrimmerjim “Gay marriage would allow mothers to marry daughters, fathers to marry sons, sisters to marry sisters and brothers to marry brothers. Marry means to raise a family. We have legal contracts for property. We have power of attorney for non family.” that was the most ridiculous paragraph I have ever read.. Gay marriage does not by any stretch of the imagination legalize incest… I pray you knew that. and secondly marry means to raise a family? tell that to half the marriages out there. and all those kids with step moms, step dads, or dads who just up and left.
  
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- Keatonc33
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:35pm
  Ranger skippy “When you read Old Testament, you will see that the kings Asa, Jehoshaphat and Josiah tore down the worship places of the SODOMITES. These were not people from Sodom, Sodom was already destroyed. Sodomites in the KJV is used to mean homosexuals.” If were going to base america off of the old testaments we have a lot to change! mainly rape law, Oh no more eating pig cheese or shellfish, stone adulterers and naughty children to death, murder all non believers, etc etc. you ready for that?
  
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- andrew36
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:24pm
  Treetrim, how exactly does allowing gay marriage, allow Incest.
  
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- andrew36
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:29pm
  Rangerskippy, do you live your life by everything else in the old testament, or do you only believe the parts that suit you.
  
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- crazedbanshee
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:47pm
  @RangerSkippy – You act as if Abraham went behind Sarah’s back (Sarai at the time), this is not so, I don’t think the lord would have accepted that.
  Genesis 16:3
  3 And Sarai Abram’s wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife.
  
  Is this the NT verse you are talking about? If so what is a bishop? Was Abraham or David a bishop?
  1 Timothy 3:2
  2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach
  
  Now in your defense of using the Old Testament against these nay sayers.
  
  Didn’t Jesus quote from the Old Testament multiple times? He came to fulfill the law of Moses and end sacrificial animals. The law of Moses did not cover the full spectrum of teachings in the Old Testament. If this is not so then how did Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob function? If there was no structure of teachings prior to the Law of Moses why then were tithes being paid?
  
  18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.
  
  19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
  
  20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
  
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- rickc34
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 9:06pm
  Hey tree- as for me and my house we will serve the Lord only, and trust in his word every day. What God stands for I will stand for, and what God stands against I will stand against.
  
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- jorskippy
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 10:35pm
  Liberals think if they repeat it enough, it will happen. they are trying to convince the public that everyone is in favor of gays like they did proganda to get Obama elected.
  
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- noczars
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 10:39pm
  EXACTLY! It used to be that once an actor/actress came out of the closet, their ratings went down because NOBODY CARES, just make you movies and shut up. Now the left feels powerful and is pushing, pushing, pushing. So, yes, just shut up and do what you do; stay out of politics and do your job “ACT”.
  
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- desertspeaks
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 11:40pm
  while not supporting nor opposing gay marriage.. you have to wonder about the phrase “sanctity of marriage” when the divorce rate is 50%..
  If marriage is such a great thing, why is divorce even legal in the first place?? are not marriage vows a contract? divorce is a breach of contract, by one or both parties..
  
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- Ballot_Box_Revolution
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:35am
  Divorce rates are so high because love and vows to God are put on the back burner to the monetary things in life…..Protecting the sanctity has actually destroyed the sanctity by subsidizing, and giving monetary perks.
  
  The gay argument about them having a lower divorce rate, will go out the window once there relationships switch focus to monetary issues. Right now they feel like they are fighting for a cause together, and it creates a bond, like bonnie and clyde love feeling.
  
  Get Government out of marriage, and put God back in….
  All the Bible quoting people, love to talk about putting God back into schools, but no mention of God back into marriage…….you’ve been conditioned….i get it….And don’t want to lose those perks…God means a lot…but not that much……messing with your monetary life…not going to happen….
  
  P.S. i dont think anyone is saying legalizing gay marriage WILL make incest legal, but saying what it does is open pandora’s box…
  
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- Jetriot
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:04am
  Treetrimmer- Your argument is so flawed it is insane. It is exactly like saying the banning of cocaine will absolutely lead to the banning of asprin. Gay marriage hurts no one and your fear of change is not reason enough to trample of another citizens individual liberty. Freedom should be our goal, not telling others what they can and can not do because we are ‘afraid’ of the social implications.
  
  Liberals hate economic liberty and conservatives hate social liberty. How about putting aside the hypocrisy and simply stop believing it is ok for government to tell us what we can and can not do when we are hurting no one else with our actions.
  
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- Ballot_Box_Revolution
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:24am
  @jetriot
  
  your argument is flawed as well….it takes looking at how laws will evolve to understand.
  
  Your argument is flawed because you say his argument “is exactly like saying the banning of cocaine will absolutely lead to the banning of asprin.” well has the banning of “drugs” not opened pandora’s box on the regulation of them? And as for aspirin…if I am remembering correctly, not very long ago they were trying to stop selling children’s aspirin over the counter…they wanted to force it into a prescription based medication. …Banning of certain drugs HAS opened the door for the government to come in and regulate, after we as a scociety said it’s ok mr government you can control that because it is better for us.
  
  Don’t get me wrong, I am all for freedom too….I could care less what gays do…i think they have every right to do what they do…just like churches have a right not to marry gay people….I am trying to protect the sanctity of marriage by getting the government out of it…..
  
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- Leader1776
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 1:28pm
  @TreeTrimmerJim
  Thank you sir for a wonderful post!
  
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- B-Neil
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 1:48pm
  Why are we still prosecuting those who steal? They were born that way. Why are we so hard on Bullies? they were born that way. Come on fare is fare.
  
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Fitzzz
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:57am
I wish Cooper would have stood up, walked over pulled Chris Matthews out of his chair and kicked his pink ***** butt from one end of the studio to the other
Why they allow that alcoholic senile old queen to be on the air, is beyond me

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- searcher619
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 9:34am
  I always wondered if anyone else questioned if he was gay. I have a strong feeling he actually is.
  
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- yiska8
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 4:41pm
  Ha!!
  “alcoholic, senile old queen..”
  Thanks for the laugh.
  He’s got the man love for Barry really BAD.
  
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- checkingbothsides
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 4:56pm
  You realize Cooper, the veteran in question, IS gay, right? You understand what the Log Cabin Republicans are right?
  
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TOCOF
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:48am
Title of this post TOTALLY oversells what happened. Matthews lost no debate as there was no debate. Matthews was ‘honoring’ this guys service, as he should have. Don’t get me wrong…I came here hoping to find a post about Matthews loosing a debate and found none. Hoping to see that happen.

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- danbarlinmar
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:52am
  no kidding.
  
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- grimmster
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:39am
  @tocof aka encinom.
  “Honoring this guys service”? Really? Please show me where pissy crissy “honored” this guys service, dumbass……..
  
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- zorro
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 11:06am
  Grimmseter….he thanked him for his service and said it was a good reason for not getting involed politically. What else did you want?
  
  I’m a veteran also and many feel like I do. We’ve taken this “thank veterans” bullsh*t far enough. We volunteered for service. We got paid for it. It doesn’t mean we can’t make mistakes or be idiots. I know plenty of stupid veterans. But being a veteran doesn’t give you a license to do whatever the hell you want.
  
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wordweaver
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:48am
Mathews, you are a total hack. You need to retire to one of those monasteries where the monks don’t talk. That would be just about right.

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- danbarlinmar
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:53am
  nice word weaving.
  
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MADDFINCH
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:48am
The same sex marriage issue is changing among the young in the US and perhaps as many as ten others countries. However, for the vast majority the of 200 countries in the world, it is not changing. ex. Russia, China , India and any Muslim country. In these countries, gay marriage is seen as an example of moral decay in society.( Especially western moral decay)

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- geeogree
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 2:37pm
  “western moral decay”
  
  I think you meant to say “Progressivism”.
  
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SAR1ARM1
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:28am
Naa! You can’t fix STUPID!!!

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- subic
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:39am
  Mathews goes to the dentist for his proctology exam.
  
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- goahead.makemyday
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 2:20pm
  LOL I had to look it up but LOL
  
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AbrahamsSheepdog
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:21am
Chris you really need help. You dig your self deep, no sunshine were you are headed.

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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:21am
Gotta love the false polling they invent, like everything else they cite as some source to validate a false claim. Ask anyone “if Marriage should be eliminated as a heterosexual right” – That’s the question i want to see polled.

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- Jetriot
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:10am
  As a 28 year old returning to school for my masters I can safely say that I don’t know a single person under the age of thirty that is against allowing gay marriage. Many of the people I spend time with are Libertarian in nature but most of them are church goers that would consider themselves Republicans. Whether you like it or not, the polls are accurate and may even undersell the reality. In 30 years the gay equality movement will be seen in the same way that the womens equality movement was seen.
  
  Old people not wanting change and young people pushing that change forward until it is the accepted norm. Again, you may not like it but it is reality.
  
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Really2012
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:20am
Chris Matthews is worthless. Not worth the air he sucks from the rest of us that actually productively contribute to society. Quit reporting on things this idiot does..

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Pogue
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:13am
Same sex marriage people are saying to the rest of us, “I am out of the gene pool, there is no resson to replicate my Stupidity!”

Thank God for that!

Pink Sparkly nuses for all the fellas and femma Nazis! Heey!!!

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- banjarmon
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:34am
  A. Back off and let those men who want to marry men, marry men.
  B. Allow those women who want to marry women, marry women.
  C. Allow those folks who want to abort their babies, abort their babies.
  D. In three generations, there will be no Democrats.
  
  Simple logic at it’s BEST
  
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- goahead.makemyday
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 2:24pm
  You missed
  E. Prevent Same sex couples from adopting
  and F. Remove education from federal control only allowing states to determine what is and sin’t taught in their schools.
  
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moonlight on the bay
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:11am
BOOM! Take THAT Chris! You walked right into that. Maybe you should have done a little research on your guest and found out for YOURSELF what he was doing in ’04 instead of winding up with egg on your face. Whoa. I wouldn’t watch Hardball if I HAD cable (actually I’d block the channel so I wouldn’t accidentally land on that channel) but it would have been nice to see that moment live. Maybe, just maybe, this has taught Chris to do a little homework and not make assumptions about his guests.

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- Psychosis
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:16am
  i block all of the lamestream media
  
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- GeorgieJo
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:03am
  Chrissy Matthews is in the BUSINESS of making assumptions.Thats why LSD-NBC pays him.The guy doesn’t have any brains hence the perfect employee for Oblamos propaganda team.
  
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rxdawg72
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:01am
Never, ever ask a question you dont already know the answer to. Debate 101.

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DEFCON4
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:59pm
Mr. Mathews, May I suggest in the future, one might find it wise to research your guests history
before-hand. Simply saying, the “5-Ps”, Prior Planning Prevents Piss-poor Performance !

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MarquisFacade
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:46pm
At least Chris thanked the man for his service. That’s more than I’ve come to expect from leftists. Not so say that the token of gratitude erases all the remaining idiocy, but it’s something.

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- bonesiii
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:02am
  Yeah, but the moment they feel politically safe telling us how they really feel, they spew hatred towards our troops (and vote that way if they can). Same with a lot of other pretend-game tricks they pull.
  
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- usedCZARsalesman
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 12:13am
  Trust that BONES…believe that if Chris didn’t know for SURE that he wouldn’t be choking on his teeth, he would have been more than comfortable instinct vets front of one.
  
  His motivation is cowardice, not respect
  
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- Chet Hempstead
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 2:14am
  I don’t have to thank anyone for their service in Iraq because I was against sending them there so their choice to go was of no service to me, and choosing to stay home would not have been doing me any disservice, however, I do admire their intention to be of service.
  
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- rEt_fiELdoP
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:07am
  @ CHET HEMPSTEAD
  What a worthless post. You have no clue as to what your post indicates other than the words you thought were of value.
  
  You stated “I don’t have to thank anyone for their service in Iraq because I was against sending them there so their choice to go was of no service to me” demonstrates you seriously misunderstand global implications regarding global politics. Other than what is assumed, please, for the love of interest, share with the rest of us ‘why’ you were against sending them so as it “was no service to me.”
  
  One thing that appears to be certain, if you had your freedom or more of your freedoms taken from you (AND IT’S COMING WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNTRY), you’d be wholely grateful for those who were standing up in arms for your rights.
  
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- Chet Hempstead
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:46pm
  rEt_fiELdoP
  I was against sending them to Iraq because Iraq and Saddam Hussein were never a threat to my rights and safety or the security of this country. Going there to fight to overthrow the government was of no service to me, but as I said I do admire the good intentions of those who allowed themselves to be convinced that it was.
  
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TPartyXpress
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:43pm
Does Krissiwissi already have a grave prepared? Time to let him use it.

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CommonSense41
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:42pm
It is only in America a smock like Chris Mathew could be TV host. Who watch him? Mentally disable as he is only.

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Eltororojo
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:41pm
Chris Matthews used to be a reasonably fair debate show host (I would even defend him most of the time.) When Olberman started winning the MSNBC ratings war during Bush’s 2nd term, Matthews saw that as a green light, and ever since then he’s turned into maybe THE most vile leftist talk show host on television, will never watch him again.

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- Rampart
  Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:46pm
  Have another drink and STFU, Chris.
  
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Salamander
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:40pm
I wonder if those supporting ‘same sex’ marriage also support ‘same sex’ conception?

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- YAHSHUARULES
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:11am
  I like that comment. The purpose of marriage was to provide a stable atmosphere to have and raise children in. I detest the homosexual movement as its all about corrupting this institution – make no mistake what they really want is to force people against their conscience to participate in the vile farce of a “marriage” – that’s why when a Christian photographer does not want to take photos, or a Christian wedding cake maker does not want to sell to them, rather then go find someone with their values they push to make someone Christian accommodate, evil exists to pervert and corrupt.
  
  There is an Agenda here – Communists setup the Mattechine Society to see homosexuality, pornography and all manner of perversion normalized – why?
  
  Freedom without morality destroys. Forcing acceptance of the filth that is homosexuality fits as Marx was at WAR with God and Capitalism. The purpose is coming against God ordained having a father as priest of his household, nurturer, provider, defender and discipliner bringing his children up in the admonition of the Lord. But the agenda is to create a society so morally bankrupt and dependent on cradle to grave government care that not only do they want it, they are so dumbed down they can’t survive without it.
  
  There is much more going on then meets the eye
  ultimate goal to drive us in a direction designed to destroy us
  https://vimeo.com/52009124
  if that is not working try this: https://vimeo.com/16647512
  
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- Nevertakecandyfromsocialists
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 1:13pm
  @YAHSHUARULES
  Thanks for the link. Grinding Down America sums it all up nicely. I’m going to purchase it from amazon and give it to my brainwashed younger siblings who just don’t get it.
  
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KyleD
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:37pm
That wasn’t part of the debate…that was just a stupid joke Matthews made during it.

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OneWithGodistheMajority
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:32pm
Why is Matthews still on? Isn’t he one of those old white guys that the dems so are history?

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- strawberry411a
  Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:43pm
  Get back to the asylum Matthews. You are a NUT case.
  
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- grayling646
  Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:48pm
  Tingles is still there because he gay and a racist. I’ve heard that MSNBC will not hire anyone in a host position unless they are gay and racist. Seems prejudicial to me.
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:31pm
Matthews has once again proven himself to be completely insane.

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- rawmilker
  Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:40pm
  Who’s the idiot broad saying rightwing, white christans are backward? Hey lady, lean forward there’s a hardball needs shoving down your mouth…
  
  Who’ll be the next politician to come out of the closet?
  
  Charlie Crist
  
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- Wayner
  Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:41pm
  How’s about some **** out there stick it to Matthews and give him a shot of aids where the sun doesn’t shine?
  
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- rawmilker
  Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:49pm
  No offense to any conservative women out there, but a loumouthed lib dis-info chick as such deserves to be labed a broad!
  
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DeVain
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:29pm
Holy cow…Chris Matthews just throws random words out and hopes it makes a sentence.

Usually it doesn’t.

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- DIR
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:50pm
  @DEVAIN
  
  Even when he’s lucky enough to make a sentence it still doesn’t make any sense. The poor guy is nuts , he’s really nuts.
  
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roagie1
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:27pm
mathews is an mush mouth ,

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BurntHills
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:26pm
one of these days America will be lucky to read how matthews and those vile obamacommunist monsters were wiped out by some obamamuslim terrorist nuke bombs or something. we wake up everyday hoping it’s THE day. sorry but we are not as Christian as we used to be a month ago. God’s 2nd Nation called ‘America’ needs soldiers, as in faithful hardcore Old Testament do-or-die soldiers. God bless Israel. God bless America.

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- 57states
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 9:55am
  ENOUGH WITH ISREAL GOD BLESS THE USA we need to take care of us! ISRAEL DOES NOT HAVE OUT BACK!!!!
  
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- goahead.makemyday
  Posted on December 11, 2012 at 2:31pm
  Your right the Outback is in Australia. Right now Israel is more focus on its neighbors who want to destroy it. If Mexico and Canada were increasing their ability to destroy America and had repeatedly called for our destruction and murder of all Americans we’d be more worried about our neighbors too.
  
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firemanfrank
Posted on December 10, 2012 at 11:25pm
Hoorah soldier……… Mathews is a drooling spittler who is really just an *****

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