UT Professor: Some Blacks, Latinos Perform Worse Than Whites Academically Because They Are Raised By Poor, Uneducated, Single Women
Does upbringing have an impact on your success in education? University of Texas Law professor Lino Graglia certainly thinks so.
The professor sparked outrage recently by claiming black and Hispanic students are failing academically because they have been raised in single parent homes, usually by females, with modest financial resources. Professor Graglia was speaking with the BBC last week for a radio interview when the topic of affirmative action was brought up.
Graglia, a Hispanic American, noted that even after segregation ended “very few blacks got into the University of Texas.” The professor noted that this was because they could not pass the admission standards. He noted that the average black performance on SAT test is “200 points lower” than that for the average white student.
Gary Younge, the radio show host, then asked why “black people were performing badly at school” and struggling scholastically.
The professor replied, “I sure don’t know” but then noted that nearly three quarters of black children are now “born outside of marriage.” Graglia went on to say he could “hardly imagine a less beneficial or more deleterious experience than to be raised by a single parent, usually female, uneducated and without a lot of money.”
Younge then pointed out that he was black and raised in a single parent family himself and asked if that makes him likely to be “not as smart as a white person of the same age?”
Professor Graglia laughed and said the host might be “more smart” than whites based on his accomplishments. He continued to state that minority children do “less well” in subjects like math and reading but reiterated that “admitting them into selective schools with large gaps in qualification is not the answer.”
The University of Texas is currently fighting a legal battle in the Supreme Court with a white student who claims she was forced to go to a second-rate college as a result of the School’s affirmative action program.
Graglia was accused of racism in 2007 after telling a student group that black and Mexican-Americans “have a culture that seems not to encourage achievement” and it “set children up for failure.”
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MADDFINCH
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:51pmA persons motivation to be education and to being educated is a very big factor in how well they will advance academically. There are many factors, what the professor is not with out merit.
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macpappy
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:47pma person, up to the age of 18 does not have a lot to say about, now do they? If your parents are trash, you will most likely be on that same road, unless some intervention happens.
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mindstruct
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 11:43pmHow well a person applies them self in life lies completely on the person and nobody else. We have created a culture in this country where it is ok to blame everyone except you. If you want an education, in this country you have the basic fundamentals to get started ( I know that this can be debated but you should be able to learn how to read). The whole idea that someone that has one parent means they are less likely to be motivated is BS. There are plenty of stories of successful people coming from single family households.
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brigott
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 11:55pmIf you had the proper motivation to be properly educated, you would have written that comment as follows:
“A persons’ motivation to be educated and to being educated is a very big factor in how well he will advance academically. There are many factors involved; what the professor said is not without merit.”
I only needed to make about five or six grammatical and/or mechanical corrections to those two, brief sentences, though I am making a guess about what you were specifically saying in the first “A persons [sic] motivation to be education….”
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mauijonny
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:51amI’ve hung out with a lot of unmarried moms (can’t help but do so as it has been pushed as the norm). Many of them show up at school days with their guts hanging out over their pants, their foodstamps at the ready, and their iPhones to get pics if and when they are paying attention. I’m sorry, women, but the spoon-fed myth of the ’60′s isn’t true…You want kids? You need a man to help. Just make sure it’s the right man and start insisting that they step up. If not, you might as well be wearing burkah…
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sillyfreshness
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 3:27amLiberals believe people are stupid because they are poor.
Conservatives believe people are poor because they are stupid.
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G-WHIZ
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:39amI have met many “uneducated” selfeducated without PROG-SCHOOLS, who have great values….and have taught those values to his/her/their son/daughter(s). Then they get “stuck” in PROG-SCHOOLS but mannage to get some education anyway!!
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zorro
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:08amI agree with the professor. He didn’t say ALL blacks or ALL latinos. He said some. I’m sure there are some whites as well. But until minorities (like myself) face the hard truth that our kids are growing up in broken homes and we’re hurting them in the long run, we will never fix this problem. And lowering the standards is not the solution. Kids that grow up in a home with college educated parents are more likely succeed regardless of their race. That may upset some of you but tough titties. It’s a FACT. And you have to deal with it.
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Thomas
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 4:49pmThat’s what government will do for you and they still want more.
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Independent4233
Posted on December 13, 2012 at 1:00pmGODFATHER
“By that way, activist and a homosexual, huh? Who’s the liar now?”
You are. Denying homosexual perversions doesn’t mean you’re not lying. “Methinks thou dost protest too much.”“
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frust@ted
Posted on December 13, 2012 at 5:41pmwho is the moron. You are the guy that is citing references from a site that is clearly a site that is about white supremacy, do you even take the time to look to see who you are getting your information from.
I look into who i get information from, thats how i found out what type of website you were referncing. I’m not going to debate any statistic you throw out. Anyone who uses a website that has such great articles like
“The Call to White Americans” or “Miscegenation: The Morality of Death”
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/1b.htm
is clearly either a racisit or an outright idiot who has no credibility.
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philpan4
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:41pmthis guy is my new hero
i dare MSPOS or Leibowitz to put him on air
we have to speak up
just look at the woman killed in Penn. by 3 punk minority teens
take em out for the good of the team
sometimes the weak have to be sacrificed to strengthen the herd
gonna be interesting in about 2 years when the hevenots
and the wontdos are the majority
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savagenatn
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 11:26pmright on…all this guy did was openly talk about what EVERYONE knows. He had the guts to speak the truth, now he will probably need armed guards to protect him from animal thugs.
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SPIN_MD
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:37pmA million years ago when I was a TA in graduate school, affirmative action was really just getting into its stride. I was routinely told to change grades for no reason other than I was told to do it. Professors in different departments were afraid of being “blamed” if the “minority” students didn’t do well. Some actually took the position that if raising a grade one point was good, raising it 2 or 3 was better. It became a kind of game between departments to see who could have the “best” performing minority students. I am saying I was told to change failing grades to As.
The actual metric didn’t come home to roost for several years actually. Companies hiring these “superior” graduates, then just refused to hire graduates they deemed substandard. They could not articulate the reason outright without raising a red flag. It became a blanket policy for many companies, especially local ones, to not hire any graduates of this school at all.
I went to school with a guy that got 100 points added to admission score for being black. He said it was the only way to get into medical school because his MCAT was below the absolute minimum score required for consideration. He is currently a doctor. He never set up a private practice. He is still at the same University Medical Center where he graduated. That speaks volumes to me.
O this particular University is constantly embroiled in malpractice litigation.
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Independent4233
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:03pmThis guy is and the interviewer are bot pretending as if they “just don’t know” why blacks score less and perform worse, when they know full well that every I.Q. test in the last hundred years attests to the fact that African Americans have the lowest I.Q. scores than any other group, not just whites.
Group average black I.Q. is 85. Average Hispanic group I.Q. is 89. Too, there’s a greater spread of I.Q. scores among Hispanics with many having high I.Q.’s, but not so within the black population. They tend to “group” around 85 with very few high scorers. To be politically correct people pretend they don’t know this, but it’s common knowledge. We’re just not supposed to talk about it or we’re deemed “racist,” which is a catch-all term meaning you’re right and we can’t refute what you say with facts.
Notice how much havoc this professor has raised by telling only part of the truth.
We’re supposed to pretend everybody is the same, and if we don’t we’re demonized to the ends of the earth for telling the truth.
Another professor a short while ago admitted that, “we’re expected to pass X number of African Americans whether they learn the course material or not, and if we don’t we’re called toi the front office to answer for it.”
And, guess what? Obamacare has mandates in it stipulating quota systems for African Americans into medical school, and other professions, whether they’re qualified or not.
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Godfather.1
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:51pm@Independent4233
Hey, you popped your racist head up again. Have you been searching for a utopia of unobjective thought, or have you been springing into action at the sound of a bell, like a lab rat?
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drs1969
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 10:06pmRe: Ind.
Obamacare is genocide. When all the doctors are Affirmative Action or Pakistani, whitey will be pushed to the back of the line, to die.
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 10:13pmIndependent4233……you are right…and those statistics are recorded in many places.
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SlaveToTruth
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:43am@Independent4233
I wasn’t aware that the bell curve for blacks was significantly different than the other races. But, I do agree with you overall statement. I know from Rushton and Jensen’s writings that only about 20% of Black have an IQ over 100 vs. 50% of whites have an IQ over 100.
@ Godfather
When did the truth become racist? You constantly hear about the educational achievement gap. I know that you can go to the SAT site and they show blacks being about one standard deviation below the white average. We see the same 1 SD gap on IQ tests. The IQ average is 100 for whites and ! SD is around 15 points. 100 minus 15 is 85 the observed average IQ for blacks. Who knows how much genetics, culture, environment etc. play causing the difference. You can also read about the gap on the dept of ed web site.
I personally think genetics have a lot to do with it. I was raised by Mom (9th grade drop out) and Grandma (6th grade drop out) but I personally loved school and did things like watching William F. Buckley on Firing Line from around the age of 9 or 10. I loved test taking and met my dad for the first time recently and found out he loved taking tests as well. So I think I myself am living proof that IQ traits have strong genetic component. But my mom and grandma did make sure I was well fed and wanted me to do the best I could in school. So I did have a better environment than most black children who don’t get fed and are allowed to do less than their
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Chuck Stein
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:28am@ Spin_MB
Your story of the doctors reminds me of the Bakke case from the 1970′s. Bakke did not get into that particular med school, but he did become doctor and has practiced as a successful anesthesiologist. The affirmative action student who bumped Bakke out of his Med school of choice was involved in at least one death involving gross malpractice (that was back around 1996). When I told my mother in law about the failings of affirmative action, she joked:
“What do you call the the bottom graduate in Medical School?” Answer: “Doctor” Very scary stuff.
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Independent4233
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:06amGodfather.1
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:51pm
@Independent4233
“Hey, you popped your racist head up again. Have you been searching for a utopia of unobjective thought, or have you been springing into action at the sound of a bell, like a lab rat?”
Can’t refute what I write can you?
Heh, heh, heh.
Homosexual activists despise the truth, and every last one of them are liars of the highest order.
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Godfather.1
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:39am@Independent4233
Oh, so I’m a homosexual now? Where did you come up with that? In your utopia of objective thought? Or was it in you rat’s lab?
Are you now going to tell me about the coming race war and how all black people want to kill whites? Are you going to tell me that you hope I become the victim of a black crime so I become an ardent racist such as yourself? Are you going to spout about all the other racists on other racist sites who also believe that the race wars are coming and that all blacks hate whites? Or, are you just going to ramble about how I am incapable of objective thought and that I am searching for some homosexual utopia like a lab rat?
Racists like you always come up with some justification for their hatred of others. You seem to believe that because you can cite a few facts about black crime and that somehow shows that all blacks act in the same way. Because of your subjective and incorrect analysis, you come to believe that all blacks hate whites. Based on that fallacy, you then decide you hate all blacks. Objective thought at its finest!
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Independent4233
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 3:43pmGodfather.1
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:39am
@Independent4233
“Oh, so I’m a homosexual now?”
What do you mean “now?”
And your hysterical preoccupation with the word “racist” tells everybody everything they need to know about your mindset. It’s your answer to everything. You’re in a frantic hissy fit, because you can’t offer any logical rebuttal to anything I asserted and it has you beside yourself with rabid hatred.
You’ve had so much success in screaming racist to shut people up who do not share your evil leftist agenda and your love for the community organizer, you’re slipping over into the realm of paranoia and delusion, because it’s not working as well as it used to for you. And, of course, the reason for that is that people throughout the internet are finally understanding who the real racists are, and they’re beginning to loudly fight back. It has you wringing your hands with what can only be described as being grief stricken because of your loss of clout and ineffectiveness.
Please understand that you care not one white for racists or racism. You attach yourself to those nonsensical terms, because you believe adapting far left tactics will bring about a radical leftist society that will include those like you.
If the KKK included a homosexual agenda in its tenets, you would just as quickly and loyally embrace the KKK just as avidly as you do the far left right now.
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Godfather.1
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 4:12pm@Independent4233
It’s quite funny that you think I have a preoccupation with the word “racist” when that is all you talk about. You based you hatred for everything African-American on your misplaced belief that, as you say, blacks are the most racist people out there. Because you mistakenly believe all blacks hate you, you in turn hate them back. You think all blacks are out to kill you, or at the very least steal your woman. You have a deep seated hatred for blacks and you simply find whatever evidence you can to support your personal biases and irrational hatred.
For someone who always labels others as being incapable of objective thought, your posts sure are filled with a lot of subjective conclusions. You ASSUME I am gay and believe I would follow the KKK if they were gay too. Tell me, what is that based on other your SUBJECTIVE beliefs.
Do you have a list of responses you just cut and paste to respond to those who call you racist? I see you have dropped the utopia, lab rat, objective thought schtick when responding to me since I called you on it. However, you still use those same responses for others, regardless of what or how they have challenged you. I see you have also changed your name from @Robert. Why is that? Did you get booted for your racist comments and wishes that others are killed in a race riot?
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Independent4233
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 4:37pmGODFATHER
“It’s quite funny that you think I have a preoccupation with the word “racist”……..”
Funny? You don’t seem to be in very good humor for someone who thinks something is funny. In fact, you come across as being in a hysterical rage.
Is it because you’re reading so many posts that you frantically consider “racist.?”
Let me reitrate: Please understand that you care not one white for racists or racism. You attach yourself to those nonsensical terms, because you believe adapting far left tactics will bring about a radical leftist society that will include those like you.
If the KKK included a homosexual agenda in its tenets, you would just as quickly and loyally embrace the KKK just as avidly as you do the far left right now.
And, of course, your mentally conditioned programming certainly is very much like a lab rat, since it is part and parcel about who you are and what you are. You’ve been conditioned to believe only the far left is your chance for inclusion.
But, in the end…if their objectives were ever realized….they would drop you in a New York minute.
Then you would direct your hate toward them.
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Independent4233
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 5:02pmGODFATHER
“It’s quite funny that you think I have a preoccupation with the word “racist”
Oh, I must be mistaken then. Let’s take a look at your comments in the last two days.
“Did you get booted for your racist comments and wishes that others are killed in a race riot?
” get it. TheBlaze pulls the fake racist comments but leaves the real ones.”
“so I become an ardent racist such as yourself? Are you going to spout about all the other racists on other racist sites who also believe that the race wars are coming and that all blacks hate whites?”
“Hey, you popped your racist head up again.”
“So you must think TheBlaze is racist too, right?”
“This article asked whether this was racist as did the HuffPo article. ”
“this article on TheBlaze is also peddling racism because it mentioned racism. ”
“The HuffingtonPost did not say this was racist.”
Good god, man. Do you really expect your comments will make a difference to anybody here?
Every comment you’ve made in just the last two days in response to 8 stories involves racism and ONLY racism It’s truly a classic display of paranoia.
Or anywhere for that matter?
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Godfather.1
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 5:20pmNo, it’s not a case of paranoia. It’s a case of having fun watching people like you get their panties in a twist.
In case you didn’t realize, all those were in response to comments others had made invoking racism.
You claim racism is a nonsensical term. Yet, you use it when labeling all blacks as, gasp, racist.
You still have yet to respond to my charge that you simply don’t like black people and that you are constantly searching for a justification for your hatred. Do you honestly refute that?
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Independent4233
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 6:46pmGODFATHER
“No, it’s not a case of paranoia. It’s a case of having fun watching people like you get their panties in a twist.”
“….get their panties in a twist?”
Well, well, well. Now here we have another example of a Freudian slip revealing your “orientation,” obviously, that you think you’re so successful in hiding.” Referring to a male getting his “panties” in a twist?
First you tell us jhow much you hate anybody that criticizes “Gays and blacks,” now you make a reference to a male getting “their panties in a twist.”
Any other man would say something about “too much starch in your shorts,” but they’re not shorts to you they’re panties.
Please continue providing additional proof.
In case you didn’t realize, all those were in response to comments others had made invoking racism
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Godfather.1
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 7:27pm@Independent4233
Nice try, but that’s not a Freudian slip, it’s a figure of speech used towards both sexes and has nothing to do sexual orientation. If you really believe that is what that means, you are even less intelligent than at first glance.
Also, I never said I hate people who hate gays and blacks. But you clearly do hate gays and blacks. That much is apparent.
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Independent4233
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 7:54pmGodfather.1
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 7:27pm
@Independent4233
“Nice try, but that’s not a Freudian slip, it’s a figure of speech”
NONSENSE. Nobody expects you to admit to it, old Twink, so your denial is right in line with all the other lies and exaggerations you have uttered in defense of your radical agenda of Christian hatred.
You’ve been cruising so much it has affected your ability to lie.
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Independent4233
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:05pmGODFATHER
“In case you didn’t realize, all those were in response to comments others had made invoking racism.”
Your referring to the below comments, of course. But…really….do you not realize your deranged fixation on race is really quite telling?
All your comments see racism everywhere, behind every tree. IOt’s p[art of your programmed, mentally conditioned Orwellian mindset that has been hammered into your noodle to the point where you see it everywhere now.
Nothing illustrates your programming and overzealous orientation than the below.
” get it. TheBlaze pulls the fake racist comments but leaves the real ones.”
“so I become an ardent racist such as yourself? Are you going to spout about all the other racists on other racist sites who also believe that the race wars are coming and that all blacks hate whites?”
“Hey, you popped your racist head up again.”
“So you must think TheBlaze is racist too, right?”
“This article asked whether this was racist as did the HuffPo article. ”
“this article on TheBlaze is also peddling racism because it mentioned racism. ”
“The HuffingtonPost did not say this was racist.”
Racism, racist, racism, racist, racist, racism. It’s on your BB mind constantly like blacks and gays blacks and gays blacks and gays……………..
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Godfather.1
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:53pm@Independent4233
Your comments are very telling. You claim I only think about blacks and gays, yet in all your posts, you exhibit your disdain for blacks. Ever time you post, you explain why blacks are going to bring the country down and how the race war is coming and that you are looking forward to shooting as many as possible. In fact, you have even wished harm upon others and wished that they are harmed at the hands of a black person. Seems to me you can’t stop thinking about blacks and are in fact unbelievably frightened by them.
Then, you assume that because I disagree with you that I must be gay. Apparently you always have gays on the mind if you automatically think that anyone who disagrees with you is gay. Seems to me that you have the gays on your mind a little too much. And, because you were the first one to mention it, you are clearly gay yourself, because whoever smelt it dealt it, that is, according to the logic of you (@Robert).
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Godfather.1
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:57pm@Independent4233
Cruising? Who said anything about cruising? Oh, wait, you did. Obviously, since you brought it up, you must be cruising yourself this very moment. You are clearly projecting. I never said anything about that and since you brought it up on your own you must be sitting there dwelling about how much can’t wait to go cruising tonight.
All you have on your mind is cruising, blacks and gays. Do you think you might meet some blacks while cruising tonight?
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Independent4233
Posted on December 13, 2012 at 8:35amGodfather.1
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:53pm
@Independent4233
“You claim I only think about blacks and gays, yet in all your posts, you exhibit your disdain for blacks.”
Absolutely wrong. I have written more posts on business and the economy overall than any others, in addition to many other subjects some of which involve weapons systems now in play on the world scene, like the S-400 anti-Missile/anti-aircraft system sold to Iran and Syria by Russia.
I write posts in response to black hate, violence and racist actions against white people and other groups, most especially Asians, and I’ve written several posts on the ongoing racial war in Southern Calif involving blacks/HIspanics, first reported by Sheriff Lee Baca in the LA Times.
Note: http://www.wnd.com/author/cflaherty/
You’re a radical leftist homosexual activist who thinks by getting on this web site and accusing everybody of racism. simply for complaining about black crime, hate and violence you’re going to change opinions, but it’s a mystery as to why you arrive at such a conclusion, because you’re mostly roundly hated here, and nothing you try to distort is going to make a difference.
It isn’t just this forum that is a problem for your demented logic. Almost every other news forum on the internet has responses from white people that are far more pro-white, anti-black than you see here. Curious that you’re not bright enough to understand that you’re in a losing battle.
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Independent4233
Posted on December 13, 2012 at 8:59amGODFATHER
“Ever time you post, you explain why blacks are going to bring the country down and how the race war is coming and that you are looking forward to shooting as many as possible.”
That’s nonsense of course. Show me where I said I wanted to shoot somebody.
And about civil war or how blacks are bringing the country down: I see that posted by many people, not only here but all throughout the internet. You not only won’t change that you’ll be swept away by it. Times are changing. Things will get far worse.
You’re a radical leftist liar who uses lies and deceit hoping to distort an issue effectively, just as the leftist geeks at NBC distorted the Zimmerman 911 tapes to make him appear biased. Any underhanded means are utilized by you liars to promote your radical agenda, because you can’t get many sane people to buy into it. It’s obvious, and you’re wasting your time. But I don’t mind…..really. It’s your choice.
You’re now tipping over into mostly high school level taunts and insults, without any kind of substance to your remarks regarding the issues at hand.
And your repeated references to “robert,” I’m assuming is for the purpose of trying to create the impression I have to change handles. I’ve been on here for about a year constantly with my current handle, and there’s nothing I’ve ever written that isn’t true, some of which are responses to hate-filled blacks, homosexuals and their hate-filled attacks on others, espe
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Godfather.1
Posted on December 13, 2012 at 10:13am@INDEPENDENT4233
That’s pretty funny that you bring up high school taunts. Were you not the first one to bring up the idea that I am gay? That sounds pretty high school level to me. When I said you get your panties in a twist, what was your response — that’s right, a high school level taunt that I must have guys’ panties on on my mind. How about the cruising comment? Was that not an elementary school taunt?
However, you can try and act like you are taking the high road when you have made numerous high school taunts yourself while also constantly falsely labeling me. All due to the simple fact that I called you a racist — apparently that makes you believe I am a gay, radical activist.
By that way, activist and a homosexual, huh? Who’s the liar now? Not once have I said that I am either or have I given any indication that I am either. But that’s cool, I’m sure your OBJECTIVE thinking led you to that answer, based solely on your subjective biases, of course.
Really, there are other sites that are more pro-white than this one? Get out of town? You can’t tell me that there might be another site where people discuss their hatred for blacks! No way! And other people on those sites hate blacks more than you? No way! I never thought anyone else in the history of the world had the same views as you.
Of course, the fact that there are people who think like you doesn’t make you correct. You just use it as fuel to justify your hate.
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frust@ted
Posted on December 13, 2012 at 2:32pmgodfather have you clicked around at all on some of the links independent has left.
here is one site that he uses as a reference.
jsut read the list of what the website calls esential reading.
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/1b.htm
this guy is as close to a white nationialist or a KKK member as you can get. Seriously people check out the link, i wouldn’t throw out that label unless i really believed it.
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Godfather.1
Posted on December 13, 2012 at 2:39pm@Independent4233
Again, you come back with another school yard taunt. Yet, you have the gall to accuse me of doing the exact thing you have been doing through all of your posts.
Although your main response is to accuse others of being incapable of objective thought, it is becoming clearer with each of your posts that you cannot think objectively in the least. If someone labels you a racist because you have just said that you hate blacks, you simply respond by claiming the person is stupid, incapable of objective thought, apparently gay, a lab rat, searching for a utopia, a left wing activist, etc. All of that is based on one single statement, the fact that you are clearly a racist who hates everything black. You have said as much yourself and are not ashamed that you hate black people. You just refuse to see that as being racist. Anyone who thinks objectively can clearly see you for what you are. However, based on your subjective biases, you simply assume that if someone believes you are a racist, which you clearly are, that the accuser is then the list of things above.
Phrase it any way you want, you still hate black people because of your irrational, subjective biases and nothing else. You actually believe a race war is coming — clear indicia of psychosis.
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Independent4233
Posted on December 13, 2012 at 2:52pmfrust@ted
Posted on December 13, 2012 at 2:32pm
.http://library.flawlesslogic.com/1b.htm
“this guy is as close to a white nationialist or a KKK member as you can get. Seriously people check out the link, i wouldn’t throw out that label unless i really believed it.”
I Googled the link, moron.
But what about the content?: Can you prove that wrong.
Of course you can’t, numbnutz.
What about the accuracy?
Got a point of contention? Well, spell it out and quit whining about racism.
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frust@ted
Posted on December 13, 2012 at 5:46pmwho is the moron. You are the guy that is citing references from a site that is clearly a site that is about white supremacy, do you even take the time to look to see who you are getting your information from.
I look into who i get information from, thats how i found out what type of website you were referncing. I’m not going to debate any statistic you throw out. Anyone who uses a website that has such great articles like
“The Call to White Americans” or “Miscegenation: The Morality of Death”
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/1b.htm
is clearly either a racisit or an outright idiot who has no credibility
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blackfeather
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:33pmwhat about the pathetic worm infested public school system?? You could look there for some root causes…
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chips1
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:48pmDidn’t Flobama put a stop to a school system that was succeeding somewhere in Washington? I understood that he was against improvement in grades.Anyone know something about it?
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integrican
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:27pm….and sum peeples are stupiter then udders. LOL (c;
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Flag-Man
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:25pmWhile I agree 2 parents is best. My wife (before we were married)
raised 6 kids by herself. She did not have a good education.
But she is very smart.
All 6 kids have done very well for themselves
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Flag-Man
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:31pmI forgot she is Latino
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macpappy
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:54pmYeah, so we don’t do so good in school, but can you whoop my azz?
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brother_ed
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:24pm@FLAG-MAN
That’s a great story.
It seems to me that most people forget how statistics work…the interviewer being one of them.
If 9 out of 10 blacks raised in single parent homes fail, that means 1 out of 10 do well.
Even interviewer seems to take the umbrage and dispute the stat.
Take this quote for example:
“Younge then pointed out that he was black and raised in a single parent family himself and asked if that makes him likely to be “not as smart as a white person of the same age?”
He was insulted (maybe) but the answer is “yes, you are LESS ikely to be not as smart…it does not guarantee it.
Too many people point to the exceptions, trying to prove the stat is somehow racist.
When I ride my motorcycle, I wear a helmet, I don’t drink, I avoid nights and weekends because statistically that is when most wrecks occur. That doesn’t mean I will never wreck.
Good for your wife for bucking the trend!!
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Alex
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:24pmIt is not race. It is the culture of single parenthood and out of wedlock births that prevails in much of Black American and Hispanic culture. If the tables were turned and whites were the ones with 3/4 out of wedlock birth rate, I guarantee you the results would be reversed.
Put a father of any race in the home who is actively involved with his children, and you will see miracles. Money is only a factor if you are below the poverty line. If you are frugal, however, you won’t need as much money anyway.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:49pmGreat Post
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:52pmWell said.
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drs1969
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 10:09pmIt is race. They’re fatherless for a reason. It’s always been that way, in the south.
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READRIGHTHERE
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 3:25am@drs1969 – It is not race. Genetics may of course be involved. Stupid coupling with stupid, etc. But it is not race.
Culture is everything. Northern European cultures produced peoples, who by necessity had to plan their summer activities (agriculture, hunting, food preservation, etc.) to survive the cold winters. These conditions produce experts in delayed gratification, advanced planning and creative problem solving, not to mention the stamina and drive to work hard while the sun is shining. A culture that subsists on what God and his earth provide (gatherers and scavengers), doesn’t create the “fear of a frozen death” incentive to plan ahead.
Now we have gatherers and scavengers who successfully voted for a President who promises plenty of scraps and leftovers taken from the tables of wealthy Americans to satisfy their bellies, and they are buying into that brand of security. No planning ahead for the eventual financial instability of the provider, or the disappearance of all scraps, just expecting the morsels (cash) to keep flowing. They picked the guy that promised they had a right to never die a frozen death.
Planning is a frontal lobe activity as are most things measured in an IQ test. Some are culturally doomed to fail and can only pray to be an exception.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:03amREADRIGHTHERE
Genetics is swift. When it is crowded, you get competition. You will get different strategies such as grouping for safety, high birth rate, but eventually IQ will come to the fore. One could argue that the loses of tribal warfare lost for a reason such as low IQ. One could argue that the white shipped to Georgia had lower IQ than their richer countrymen back in England.
But genetics is swift. People are always politicking & scheming to get ahead. Whatever the starting stock black or white, environmental & societal pressures were there to winnow people out. For a time due to the the Great Society failure IQ might take a back seat. But it will come roaring back whether this culture survives or fails.
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American_Christian_Capitalist
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:23pmNature vs Nuture?
What we need to do is quadruple the spending per student in urban public schools across the country. But that’s not enough. We need to probably double the amount of welfare benefits and community afterschool programs. Whatever happened to midnight basketball? It’s not a learning problem, we, as a [national] community just don’t care enough. Everyone’s better-off when we spread the wealth around a little. RIGHT???
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madvlad
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:22pmGood sarcasm!
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integrican
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:21pmI was looking for the story on a Utah (UT) professor not a U of T (Univ. of Texas) professor.
I am white and raised by two white parents. (c;
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DeOppressoLiber
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:20pmIgnorance is the greatest equal opportunity employer. You see it around the world.
When you max out your capacity to reason, most people resort to using feelings.
The union thugs had no counter to the argument so they got angry and resorted to violence.
The more ignorant you are the easier it is to manipulate you, even with a free cell phone. Dear Leader used this to get reelected.
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catty
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:42pmUm no he didn’t. That program was initiated by Reagen.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:02pmcatty
No Obama owns this. He touched it & made it worse.
“The program is called the Lifeline Assistance Program
administration’s promotion of the billion-dollar program has led to a sharp increase in participation. It fails, however, to address the most important criteria: whether those using it actually need, or already have, a cell phone. It has resulted in a rise in fraud and cost, all covered by a fee paid by current cell phone users.”
“Most consumers are unaware that they pay for the free cell phone program. The “Federal Universal Service Fee” included on all phone bills underwrites the program.”
“, the cost of the program has doubled during President Obama’s first term”
http://www.examiner.com/article/inside-obama-s-free-cell-phone-program
PWNED!
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Walkabout
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:10pmCatty
There were cellphones in abundance during Reagan’s Presidency? Who knew? You should be writing the history books You go gal!
Universal Service Fund
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The Universal Service Fund (USF) was created by the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in 1997 to meet Congressional universal service goals as mandated by the Telecommunications Act of 1996. -wiki
Communications Act of 1934
After AT&T was split up in 1984, universal service was still “supported by a system of above-cost access charges paid to local exchange companies.” Increased
No dear this has progressive fingerprints all over it.
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barbaraforconservatives
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:48pm“when you max out…”.
I totally agree with this statement. Democrats and liberals are most certainly very emotional people and vote according to their feelings about a given subject/topic and do NOT use logic or reason when deciding the best course for this nation and its people. As evidenced in the recent election, much was said about a womans right to birth control. A vey emotional subject but clearly not thought out because there was no way that Romney or the republicans were going to take away a womans birth control pills but Obama was smart to use his supporter’s emotions against them. If I were a democrat/liberal woman, I would surely be embarrased but then that would require actually KNOWING that you were being insulted.
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copatriots
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:17pmRaaaacisttttttt!!!
Seriously, the case is perfectly made for a two parent, father (as in male gender) and mother (as in female gender) being the absolute best environment for raising intelligent children. Duh.
Oh…..I know what we could do as a society. Let’s double-down on our stupidity and allow gay marriage. Yes, that’s the answer. /sarc
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YAHSHUARULES
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:21pmOnly a country grounded in biblical principals and values our Founders knew was suitable for a representative Republic form of government. Freedom without morality destroys. Forcing acceptance of the filth that is homosexuality as Marx was at WAR with God and Capitalism. The purpose is coming against God ordained having a father as priest of his household, nurturer, provider, defender and discipliner bringing his children up in the admonition of the Lord. But the agenda is to create a society so morally bankrupt and dependent on cradle to grave government care that not only do they want it, they are so dumbed down they can’t survive without it.
The agenda of the left is to create an America so corrupt it stinks and to drive this culture in a direction designed to destroy it. If you don’t know all this you need to find out!
https://vimeo.com/52009124
if that is not working try this: https://vimeo.com/16647512
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Bum thrower
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:27pmThe black community has been DESTROYED by “The Great Society” and the ‘War on Poverty”; FIFTY years of ‘LIBERALISM’ and now we have the result; If we work hard, we can get the HIGHSPANIC community to joint them; they’ll all vote Democrat so they can keep getting free stuff, and keep the criminal justice system at full employment.
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Mike Austin
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:16pmThen you add in the culture that vilifies education and studying, you get exacatly what he says is going on.
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COFemale
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:13pmAs a college instructor I can say all the black students I have taught, which has been seven or so in total, all but one has struggled with a simple computer class. The class is open book. Many either do not do homework, don’t come to class, or don’t care. Some have withdrawn before semester was over to receive a WP. They have come from two parent, one parent, homeless situations.
Having said this, I have had my share of white slackers too, both male and female. However the ratio of those to white students is about 25% versus nearly 100% for black compared to black. Asian, Muslim, and Hispanics have performed quite well.
I think the whole school dynamics are changing, not just for blacks. Many things that would appall the rest of us, has become the norm for current college students. What you ask? Plagiarism and cheating either by finding a homework file on the Internet, a friend, or a past student of the class and turning it in as their own. We are changing homework and exams each semester to help curb the cheating.
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shakedowncrews
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:34pmI was a former teacher and saw very similar results.
I will say that I found that most of my black students were far more knowledgable about how the world works, street smarts, so to speak, than the white students, who tended to be book smart but dumb as a box of rocks in other ways.
And I had quite a few black and hispanic kids who were very bright.
I think Younge’s question, that he was raised by a single mother and so does that make him dumb, missed the point. There are of course many very intelligent students who come from single parent houses who will do well, but they are a smaller percentage of the totals. And sometimes they thrive not inspite of the difficulties, but because the difficulties they suffer motivate them.
But many simply do not see education as worthwhile. I once had a Hispanic student, who was quite bright, refuse to do his Spanish homework, even though he was fluent and it should have been easy. I asked him why he didn’t try, and he said “man, education is a WHITE thing. My parents are migrant workers, my grandparents were migrant workers, we like the lifestyle, you whites are imposing your cultural values on us.” As if there are no Hispanic engineers, doctors, pilots, etc?!
It’s not a RACE issue; it’s a CULTURAL issue.
You learn culture from your family and community. PERIOD.
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OhioGal
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:09pmI grew up in 13 foster homes and state institutions. And in between, I ran away and hitched rides cross country twice with other shorter side trips. I attended school sporadically, but maintained a rather good grade average. Skipping a couple of grades and still earning a scholarship. My mother came here from Cuba in early 1958 and I was born here the same year. She made sure I knew how to read before I ever went to school, and sent me to 2 1/2 years of Catholic school before she died. So now I see many idiots, raising idiots. There is no foundation, no interest in involvement, a “get over” mentality, a heavy leaning “victim hood”. And it is perpetuated by the very people who say they are “here to help”. I learned survival by being out on the streets, and when I turned 18 I HAD to depend on myself, and I’m glad my mom instilled a love of learning in me, but I am also happy I have never looked at myself as a “victim”. But to see a race of people with many who look down on others who succeed is strange. And who think it’s cool to father many yet take care of none. Young women who enjoy being “bitches and ho’s” probably do not have much going on in the maternal department. And so now, we have a Pres. who wants EVERYONE to go to college? I just really don’t think EVERYONE is college material. However, I see these attitudes spilling over across the board. Lots of white boys on TV jumping off roofs while skate boarding and hurting themselves on purpose, who have 2 pa
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Fubared
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:41pmTake that culture crap and make some yogurt with chocolate chunks. Assimilate or piss off.
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LaBelle
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:13pmThe truth ALWAYS hurts.
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freepr008
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:54pmYou know what hurts?
Generalization.
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MMSands
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:12pmWait a minute: trying to equate these things is ridiculous. I was brought up by a single mother who had no money and no real job prospects, as she didn’t have a high school diploma when she got married. She had five children before getting divorced in the early ’60′s, when it was still a stigma to come from a “broken home.” Nevertheless, she managed to send us all to private schools, and we all went to college. She was never wealthy — in fact, she remained poor to the last — but it certainly wasn’t for lack of intelligence. My extended family is large. Some are very well to do, some barely get by, some have spent time homeless. We all come from a strong work ethic, and we tend to have high IQ’s although there are as few geniuses as there are those who test at the opposite end. Some work hard and get nowhere, some live off the fat of the land and are successful. Others work hard and do well, while others try to live on entitlement mentality and are full fledged member of the “underclass.”
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booger71
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:27pmThe key is your Mother instilled a strong work ethic in her children, and you guys were not obviously multi generational welfare recipients,. Kudos to your Mother for wanting and making sure her kids got a good eduction.
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MMSands
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:08amThat’s my point: it’s about having a strong work ethic, and making your own opportunities in life. That doesn’t mean life is fair, or that there are guarantees, but it does improve your odds.
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skippy6
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:12pmEqual opportunity does not = same results…. Spending more money on education does not = smart kids…..Forced integration does not work either….Forced busing was a flop….Affirmative action always seems to fail…..Why is it when government does something, it fails more often than not….Maybe some people are more equal than others???…I think the pigs are walking…..Anyway…. Upbringing does affect how a person will perform in life, IMO……
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facilitiesmgr
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:11pmWe need to quit making excuses for people’s poor performance. It doesn’t matter what the skin color, socio-economic level, urban, suburban, etc. What matters is a persons personal aptitude and willingness to work hard at something.
“If I make excuses or blame someone/something else for my poor performance, I am abdicating my responsibility and giving up my ability to solve the problem. I can only fix what I take responsibility for.” That is a statement by Claude Hamilton, business leader with the LIFE Business.
It’s time people looked forward at what they want rather than what is in their past. There are countless examples of people who did exactly that, George Washington Carver, Dr. Ben Carson, Harriet Tubman and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas are just several of the many who have succeeded in spite of their humble beginnings.
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BHOHG2G
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:10pmIf Mama wouldn’t get knocked up or at least learn to use Big Daddy O’s ” free” condoms then a lot of them wouldn’t even be around to worry about how stupid they are. That goes for whites just as much as anyone else.
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:09pmWho cares ? Whites are the new Minority – Where’s our handouts ? Let them work and support us for once – Under Communist obama none of has to work anymore!
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Keatonc33
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:53pmHow is the white race.. which makes up 78.1% of the population as of 2011 a minority? http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html
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skippy6
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 7:34pmI can get 15 per hour sitting at home producing nothing like the government….
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Fubared
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 8:42pmAs a young teenage girl, it is good to see you speaking up Keatie.
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Yakov-Yurovsky
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 7:22am@ KEATONC33.
According to the census, whites non-hispanic are 63.4% of the population in 2011. The census only counts citizens. If you take into consideration, illegals, foreign students, green cards, foreign workers non-citizens, etc… SOCIALISTSLAYER has a point; just saying.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:05pmYounge then pointed out that he was black and raised in a single parent family himself and asked if that makes him likely to be “not as smart as a white person of the same age?”
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It is a correlation. It means an increase percentage will not be successful. When it comes to successful parenting, the facotrs, 1 parent or 2 parents , are not binary. It is not 1 or 0, it is not 100% success in 1 case or 100% failure in the other.
I am not going to say that Host Younge is not smart or doesn’t deserve his degree in a specific subject. I will say that he is statistically innumerate. Otherwise he would never have asked such a question!
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TheEDGE
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:03pmSeems pretty obvious to me, professor, but your going to make people uncommmmmfortable.
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Larry E
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:02pmWell, it’s patently obvious that the good professor is obviously a racist.
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BlasberryStrat
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 5:58pmGOSH!! No ****. Did you finally figure out that single crack mothers don’t raise kids “quite” as well as a stable two parent family (whether it be black, white, green, or red. Don’t scream “racist on me. Moron.)?? Did you actually get that on your own?? You get a cookie.
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JeanetteVictoria
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 5:55pmOh come on, tell the truth they perform poorer because their avenge IQ is one standard deviation less than whites.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:09pmIQs have been rising. I blame liberal culture for the failings of minorities not their genetics.
It is about liberal memes not minority genes.
Liberalism kills!
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freepr008
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:36pmAvenge IQ?
Avenge is a verb. To avenge is to punish a wrongdoing with the intent of seeing justice done.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 6:48pmfreepr008
The misspelled a word. You knew what they meant. I don’t know a bout the 1 standard deviation statistic and I am not going to look it up.
I did read “The Bell Curve” & the liberals’ take on it was azz backwards.
Again blacks are not inherently dumb, liberal culture dumbs down African Americans.
Liberals are doing a good job on whites too. Immelt & Soros want their epsilons damn_it
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grimmster
Posted on December 11, 2012 at 5:53pmThat’s one reason………
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