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Calif. Student Sues School After Allegedly Being Suspended for His Politics (And He Has Some Noteworthy Video Evidence)

Dec. 12, 2012 8:36am Erica Ritz

Fresno State Student Neil OBrien Says University Punished Him for Conservative Political Views

(Photo: Facebook)

A California conservative at Fresno State University is suing his school after allegedly being put on disciplinary probation because of his politics.

The school’s leadership– particularly University President John Welty– is reportedly outspoken in its support for liberal policies like the DREAM Act. The school’s newspaper took things so far last May that they published a poem that begins: “America, the land robbed by the white savage.”

Neil O’Brien is active in student government, and has made no secret about his opposition to the DREAM Act. He decided to ask the professors in the Chicano and Latin American Studies Department– at least one of whom seems to be a faculty advisor for the paper– what they thought of the poem.

Fox News has more on what happened next:

When O’Brien approached the professors separately in their offices, the same thing happened in each case: they said they didn’t want to talk with him. Openly recording the encounters on a video camera, O’Brien told them he just wanted to ask questions. They again told him to leave, and closed their doors.

What happened next is what got O’Brien in trouble: The professors called the police. According to police reports, the professors said that O’Brien had been “threatening” and “harassing” them. Police took O’Brien in for questioning, but decided not to file charges after watching video he took of the incident (which O’Brien has posted online here.)

Neil O’Brien sent TheBlaze a copy of the poem:

(Photo via Niel O’Brien)

Though the police chose not to pursue the matter, the school seemingly felt that punishment was still warranted.

Fox News continues:

O’Brien’s troubles continued when he was called into the Dean’s office and told he would face a disciplinary hearing in which he would not be allowed to have a lawyer present.

In the disciplinary hearing, O’Brien says he repeatedly asked his questioners to watch the video of the incident – but they refused, even though he brought a DVD with the footage to the hearing.

University Vice President Paul Oliaro ultimately gave O’Brien disciplinary probation for a semester – which forbade him from serving as the president of a student group he formed (a chapter of Young Americans For Liberty) and banned him from going “within 100 feet of the Chicano Latin American studies faculty or staff or their offices or classrooms in which they are teaching.”

“You can see that even though the video completely exonerates me, I still went through all this hell,” he told FoxNews.com.

In O’Brien’s opinion, the only conclusion is that he is being reprimanded for his politics.

“I can’t think of a reason besides that they just don’t like conservatives, and just don’t like to answer questions on anything,” he remarked.

O’Brien’s lawyer, Brian Leighton, added: “What these professors can’t stand is that Neil shows up to all these university meetings… and he says what he thinks.” O’Brien emailed us a full copy of his complaint– read it here.

School representatives say they cannot provide details on the case, since it has to do with disciplinary action against a student, but insist that personal politics were unrelated to O’Brien’s punishment.

“Fresno State strongly values and supports the First Amendment rights of all students, faculty, staff and administrators. We encourage individuals to exercise their freedom of speech, provided they do so in an appropriate manner,” the school’s spokeswoman Kathleen Rhodes Schock commented.

Though this is related to politics, it should be noted that a quick Google search reveals O’Neil seemingly had a website called “therealpedro.com” about the “lies, crimes, and possible cover-up” of the school’s president Pedro Ramirez, who was found to be an illegal immigrant in late 2010. The website has not been updated since May.

But O’Brien remains firm: “This school is totally Orwellian…I just want to share my opinion when I disagree, and I shouldn’t be treated like a criminal for it.”

Here is O’Brien’s video — the one that school professors called the police on him for saying he was “threatening” and “harassing” them. Skip to about 13 seconds:

O’Brien also emailed TheBlaze a second, nearly 13-minute video, of his attempts to talk to other teachers:

This post has been updated

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Comments (286)

perry1980
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:50am
Sue their @SS
The only thing Liberals understand is lawsuits.
Until you legally make them stop they will continue this assault on every conservative student who
speaks up for their beliefs

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- Gold Coin & Economic News
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:27am
  Sorry, they’ve been brainwashed by the liberal media and their tenured professorships in this cushy university jobs to know anything about the real truth. I would last about 2 days in that environment,
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBPpwt1HAUk
  
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- toto
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:13pm
  Just so sad that these immigrants don’t see they are turning America into the cesspool of oppression they supposedly are against.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:21pm
  Both people told the guy they didn’t want to talk to him then. I’m pretty sure he was in violation of California law that requires consent before recording someone.
  
  I imagine if a student in at any university in the country walks into a professors office and refuses to leave when asked (the first guy was helping another student) then they are violating school policy.
  
  This has nothing to do with politics. This was just amateur ambush videotaping, hoping to get a reaction. Nobody should have to put up with that.
  
  Here’s an test. Walk into anybody’s office, at a University, business or a police station or wherever and refuse to leave and see what happens.
  
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- KevinFSU
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:42pm
  Im a student at Fresno State… The school gets sued almost every year becuase of idiotic things teachers and Admin. do…. I think the running total is around 150 million dollars payed in lawsuits in 4 years.
  
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- HuskerDave
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:47pm
  @ Sendthemeteors.
  
  Consent is required before law enforcement records you. Any other person who is a party to a conversation can legally record it.
  
  As for the rest of your weak argument – these are not passers-by he is asking. They are faculty. In particular, the first gentleman is the faculty advisor to the student newspaper that this student is questioning. He is EXACTLY the person that should be questioned.
  
  Instead, asking this faculty member about the article that he sactioned as faculty advisor is considered ‘harrassment’ and the student is disciplined.
  
  I hope the lawsuit is successful and very, very public.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:49pm
  Meteors
  Do you think the primero Proffessor used 2 for espanol when dialing 911?
  
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- hagar
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:56pm
  I think they also understand the $$$$ until parents oe who ever is paying threaten them with their pocket book nothing will change. Pull you kids out sue for pre paid fee’s and go someplace like Hillsdale
  
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- randydutton
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 1:15pm
  We’ve got a related issue at Grays Harbor College, Washington State, where tenured history professor Gary Murrell flunked a student for defending the dropping of atomic bombs on Japan. You can read more at http:// graysharborgop.blogspot.com/2012/05/academic-dishonesty-at-grays-harbor.html.
  
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- armyofnibiru
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 1:20pm
  toto,you missed a word [ILLEGAL] immagrents.I do it myself some times.
  
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- rc30
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 1:29pm
  Your parants brought you here when it was not legal for them to do so. Because of that I need to let millions of people who broke my countrys laws to get here stay because you are here now. I wonder if your home country of Mexico feels the same way about letting people jusy come in. Sorry but we need to make you go threw the same system to get here that eveyone else not from here has to do.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 1:49pm
  HuskerDave, you’re wrong that only police are require consent before recording you. That doesn’t even make sense. http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations
  
  And you’re also confused. This guy could have made an appointment with the professor or waited until the professor was finished with the other student or whatever. And, if the student actually wanted to discuss the issue and his complaints, he wouldn’t need the video tape or he wouldn’t have refused to leave and whatever else.
  
  This was a transparent effort to harass and embarrass the professor, nothing more. Please. I know you’re not stupid. This is hardly the way mature people discuss issues. This is a James O’Keefe wannabe, who is on probation by the way for trying to secretly record conversations an elected official. He was convicted, in case you’ve forgotten.
  
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- armyofnibiru
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 1:54pm
  huskerdave,oneal caught them in voter fraud useing the campus facilities for dems(but thats not political right meteors).but no one cares because the dems won!!they should make pedro the new ambassador to lybia
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:04pm
  “school’s newspaper took things so far last May that they published a poem that begins: “America, the land robbed by the white savage.””
  
  When the school Newspaper published such things as that poem, it is necessary to confront the font of such incitement to violence directly. Poor wittle prof could not stand the light of day. Every professor should be able to withstand the scrutiny of any & all class lectures taped & put on the internet or cable access channel.
  
  By definition there are so many people in a classroom that it is public.
  
  The poem reminds of the book “A Land so Strange”. You read the book find out who the Mexicans are, white fathers & Indian mothers (A lot of Iberian Y chromosomes & Indian mitochondria). So they Mexicans are better than us non Mexican, because their paternal ancestors raped their maternal ancestors. LULZ! Those same Spaniard/Indian mix came north & conquered the Pueblo. Of course those people were happy to be conquered because they rose up in the Pueblo Revolt of 1680, or Popé’s Rebellion.
  
  But it is all copasetic because they did it before the Anglos got here so that makes it legit!
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:07pm
  SendTheMeteors
  
  Try reading a book like “A Land so Strange” or visit the Missions of San Antonio before you swallow the La Raza line.
  
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- sunsu
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:08pm
  Good luck finding a non-liberal judge in California.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:11pm
  You cannot embarrass the professors. They can only embarrass themselves. It is their position coming to light before the general public that is causing them anguish.
  
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- lowerclassrepublican
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:30pm
  One of the only jobs these guy’s have is to answer to students. As long as they are on the school grounds there is no harassment by a student and I can guarantee that at some point each of these professors have said, “My door is always open for my students” Sue the hell out of them!
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:52pm
  Most disciplinary actions by universities are kafkaesque, and predetermined. Especially if you hold views contrary to the establishment of the University. Higher education are not places of new ideas or academic and political freedom. They are bastions of indoctrination, elitist fascist ideals, and intellectual snobbery of the most extreme and surreal type. If they tell you you can’t bring a lawyer, bring one anyway.
  
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- bdsconserv
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 3:30pm
  how do these illegals get into college in the US in the 1st place? and who pays for it? that student body president says he’s going to get his master’s next. where or where do they get the $? i’d love to go to college and get a degree,but how does a 55 yr.old woman do that without paying thru the nose or asking the taxpayers to help out,which i would never do. and the arrogance of these illegals is astounding.
  
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- z32tt
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 3:42pm
  @sendthemeteors:
  Have you even taken the effort to comprehend the content of the source that YOU, YOURSELF provided? Within your own link, it clearly states the following (4th paragraph down):
  “Federal law permits recording telephone calls and in-person conversations with the consent of at least one of the parties. See 18 U.S.C. 2511(2)(d). This is called a “one-party consent” law. Under a one-party consent law, you can record a phone call or conversation so long as you are a party to the conversation. Furthermore, if you are not a party to the conversation, a “one-party consent” law will allow you to record the conversation or phone call so long as your source consents and has full knowledge that the communication will be recorded.”
  
  Reading comprehension is a useful trait to have – you should work on yours.
  
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- turkey13
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 5:32pm
  He desreves compensation but us tax payers will have to foot the bill after they go to Obama and beg for sme kind of grant pay what the judge orders.
  
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- stopspending
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 6:53pm
  HAGAR, I can appreciate your suggestion for parents to stop paying for school at places like this. However, that is the problem. Parents probably are not paying most of the bill for these students= you and I are with our grants, taxes, loans that will not get paid back, welfare, etc. That is why schools can get away with this stuff. The newspaper sponsor should get fired, and not hired elsewhere for that vile poem. Makes you wonder why the immigrants want to come to the US so badly if they think so poorly of the country. Does not make sense.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 7:22pm
  z32tt, California is a two party consent state. However I am glad to know you can read. I thought you said only the police had to ask for your permission.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 9:17pm
  Walkabout, what is the “La Raza line.” Would that be George Bush’s position on worker programs, a “path to citizenship” and so on?
  
  What is your position on immigration? Are you a Native American, or did your forbears immigrate here from another country?
  
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- lowerclassrepublican
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:39pm
  Just to clear things up. He needs to sue because of their intent. It was not just to shut him up it was to give him a criminal record. They showed that they wanted him to have a record so that future problems came up they could just say, “he has a record of disturbing the peace!”
  
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- Wisdom7
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:40pm
  @SENDTHEMETEORS
  
  Speaking of reading, did you even read the entire 61 page complaint that was filed by the student (plaintiff) to the court? This is about much more than recording a conversation, which was fine. Obviously if it was illegal the campus police would have done something about it yes? This student should win this case.
  
  However, I would like to hear your opinion about the behavior of the faculty in all matters pertaining to this case and not only the faculty, but the fact Pedro Ramirez, an illegal alien, was attending the university, registered to vote, and also driving illegally. Also, what is your opinion of the poem published by the school’s newspaper?
  
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- BlueStrat
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:53pm
  He should have joined a labor union first.
  
  Then he could have called his actions a pro-labor protest and walked into these professor’s offices and trashed them and physically assaulted the professors without any consequences.
  
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- Chetnik
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 12:26am
  It sounded like the kid had some kind of restraining order on him. What the hell is he doing, then, breaking the law and making things worse on himself? Some people will do anything for their 15min of fame…
  
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- old white guy
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 6:04am
  liberal socialists and their quest to make being a conservative against the law. this article shows how they will abuse the constitutional rights of anyone they do not agree with. sue and keep doing it because soon they will try and make it against the law to sue.
  
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- cessna152
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 6:11am
  Why do people pay to go to these agenda filled pos schools. Nothing but throwing your hard earned money at liberal nonsense.
  
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- cucycln
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 8:39am
  I would like him to win big on the lawsuit…but it’s the tax payer who ends up getting the bill. Why not the University ADMIN. having to pay!!!!
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 9:49am
  SendTheMeteors
  
  What is your position on immigration? Are you a Native American, or did your forbears immigrate here from another country?
  ***
  Whatever went on 100, 200 or 300 years ago does not mean that we have to keep our borders open for ever & ever. No country does that.
  
  Note turkey did not conquer Asia Minor until 1453. Their border are not open.
  Germany did not start to conquer East Germany until about AD 900.
  Vietnam was putting the finishing touches on its con quest of South Vietnam about the time the Jamestown colony.
  
  Now it is not pretty, by anyone much less the Indians. The Apache are a language Isolate in the American Southwest because they came from Canada & Kicked someone’s azz to get that land.
  Ditto for the 6 Nations in New York. the 6 Nations are especially egregious. They wiped out several tribes for greed.
  
  What is my stand on immigration? Legal Immigration. Period. Bush does not speak for me. He was the party leader from 2000 to 2008. I do not agree with every decision he made. Republicans/ Conservatives/Libertarians do not have maximum leaders, Dear Leaders/ Der Fuehrer, The One like you lefties do.
  
  My stand on immigration is that they learn English. English is for governance. We speak different languages at home or social occasions or whenever. In my family you can find people who can speak non English languages fluently. So I have nothing against foreign languages. You cannot govern well with multiple languages.
  
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- Pantloadian
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 9:52am
  HUSKERDAVE . . .Hey Dave . . .DAAAAVE . . . .DAVEYYYYYY . . . .Hiding, I see. Beyotch slapped by Meteor in a big way. This kid is just another Steven Chowder – agitating for a reaction, then whining that he’s a victim. (Yeah. that Chowder story disappeared awfully quick, didn’t it? Yes, yes it did.)
  
  Kid’s a punk. And you wonder why there are so many regulations? It’s because or idiots like this and every other conservative yelling for a lawyer every time somebody sneezes in their direction. Candyass half-a-man babies, all of ya. Butch up or go home to momma. Geez, what happened to America?
  
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- Leonaroski
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 10:56am
  At least the police were not harassing him. Well except for that first lady.
  
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- MONICNE
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 11:32am
  Walkabout is a fake, Posing as a late night USA patriot. It is actually a cut & paste Aussie from Brisbane, possibly a team (one is better at grammar and spelling and one is dumb) or maybe it’s a single typist that works 12 hours and is sometimes impaired by drink or drugs.
  
  It will not say what country it votes in. (Just prove me wrong!) It calls me Sheila, since it’s Mum is Sheila and it’s little sister Shelia makes more than it ever will – gainsay me that!, eh, cobba!
  
  Beware of its mischief; it tries to influence behavior and heated rhetoric that are going to land some unsuspecting Blaze warrior on a Gummint watch list. AvengerK is another fauxMercian idyll. These posers will never admit they are Auss-Hats.
  
  Shake the hand of the next Vet you see
  
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- Crus8r
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 11:41am
  Sorry bro, I have to disagree. When I first started reading this article, I was angry at the perceived racism of the “obvious” leftist at the school. After watching the video I am annoyed at the idiot trying to make something sensational out of the paper with a ridiculous attempt at cornering these professors. He was in the wrong and deserves his punishment. His attitude was aggressive and confrontational. If he had genuinely wanted an opinion, he would have gone about getting the video in a different way. He was trying to be belligerent and that is what he got in turn. I am sorry I can’t be more indignant about the racism at the school, but when our side approaches the issue this way, I have to call it like I see it. He was wrong.
  
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- Ray2447
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 3:59pm
  This is common in taxpayer funded colleges and universities in California, where Marxist “race, class, and gender” propaganda is regularly spewed from Instructors podiums. Anyone who dares to ask questions, or presents an alternate viewpoint, is hatefully vilified as shown in “Marxist Valley College” at Youtube. http://tinyurl.com/44btbq8
  
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- OIF3survivor
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 4:57pm
  sendthemeteors:
  
  “Native American”?
  Really? That usage of the word native is so typical of fuzzy-headed leftist-speak. Sorry but despite progressive/liberal attempts to rename american Indians (of which I claim part of my ancestry: Blackfoot and Cherokee), a native american is anyone born in this country. I am a native american as are most of those who post here, I would wager.
  
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- Wisdom7
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 5:54pm
  @CRUS8R
  
  Read the entire complaint filed in court, which is linked to in the article above. The video shown in the article above was toward the end of the events that took place. If you just watch the video, you miss the entire context of what took place.
  
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- MemphisViking
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 7:34pm
  Meteors, “Native Americans”‘ ancestors immigrated here from somewhere else too. No ethnic group is ‘native’ to North America, originally.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 7:40pm
  Walkabout, good post. You seem to have a degree of tolerance based on family connections. I wish more Americans had that. More and more they will.
  
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Independent4233
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:46am
Any white person who can listen to or read denigrations like “whites are savages who robbed America” and not be outraged is someone who has been intimidated into silence like a cowering wimp.

This incident is no less than pure, unadulterated hatred against people this disgusting racist doesn’t like.

If it isn’t him, it’s someone from La Mecha, La Raza, the Brown Berets, the Black Panthers, Al, Jesse, Farrakhan Jeremiah Wright, all the talking heads on CNN and MSNBC, Bill Mahr, Steven Colbert, Jon Stewart, etc. And this hatred is permeating throughout the entire black community almost on an unrestricted level of anti-white hate that is growing in leaps and bounds.

It will get far worse. While gun sales are at record levels with no hint of slowing down, more preparation is a necessity. People MUST form neighborhood defense groups within their suburbs, because they will be the first to be attacked by these white-hating crazies of all colors and stripes.

We, in the countryside, have formed our militias and we’re adding more every day. We own the rural areas surrounding the urban cesspools, and we’re prepared, but I’m afraid our suburban neighbors are not.

Just having guns won’t protect you. You must be uinified and form together in groups to be really effective.

http://modernmilitiamovement.com/
http://www.patriotnetwork.info/
oathkeepers.org/

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- Ceefour
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:51am
  Soooo right. Also need an effective commo system that will work when nothing else does……
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:01pm
  Holy Cow! GodFather#1 is finally coming around. Pretty far off from the La Raza talking points, but that is a start. PadreNumeroUno es bien.
  Still would love to know if you have a foam hand with the #1 and of course a passel of goombas to run interference and security from all the lesser GodFathers…? Does Hoffa Jr. know of your running on the GodFather#1 platform?
  
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- Godfather.1
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:10pm
  I get it. TheBlaze pulls the fake racist comments but leaves the real ones.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 4:22pm
  GodFather#1
  It appears your tongue in cheek “shooting of illegals” remark didn’t get liked by all, some are thin skinned. We know a GodFather would have it delegated out to a good fellow, he wouldn’t sully or dirty his hands, being the #1GodFather and all.
  
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Vickie Dhaene
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:42am
I applaud him for his efforts. Sadly, they will throw this out because he did not get their permission to record. For as crazy as it is I am almost positive that’s how it’ll go down.

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- AZfreeman
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:27am
  I also wish him the best. Liberalism is a mental disease.
  
  They are not going to allow their schizophrenia to be filmed. When they do allow filming, the truth will not be found. Does this mean that the only way to expose these people is to carry a hidden camera like James O’keefe? Does anyone think the outcome would be different if these encounters had been secretly filmed? Would a secret filming hold up in court or would he be in more trouble? How do we get to the truth…just wondering? I’ll bet the prof’s actions will still be excused… rf
  
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- LifeandLiberty2
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:08pm
  I may be incorrect however, I believe that since the camera was out in the open he didn’t have to ask. After all since it was clearly in his hand based on what we saw on the video both professors did not ask him not to record. I believe the law only prohibits recordings without an individuals knowledge – hidden microphones, camera’s or even recording a phone conversation. Not sure though.
  
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- ranepowel
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:30pm
  Could be republican and conservative all day long, but if he’s getting in the face of people and recording the, without their permission, then HE is in the wrong, not them.
  
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- ranepowel
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:41pm
  California is a two-party consent state, meaning that both parties in any conversation have to agree to be recorded before any audio and/or video can be recorded. The student broke state law, in addition to school code by recording without the teachers/faculty’s consent. Look up the laws. The student is in the wrong here.
  
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- gw27
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:43pm
  So I’m joining in late here… what I am “hearing” is that, in CA, a news crew cannot set up on a street corner and record because every car passing by would need the driver and any passengers consents to do that video? I think not.
  
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- ranepowel
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 11:42am
  No, a news crew has permission to film in PUBLIC PLACES. That is why you see camera men and news reporters ambushing people off of the lots of private property, and not just bursting into private offices of CEOs and the like. The school itself, specifically the offices of teachers, are considered private property, and in those types of situations both parties must consent to being recorded.
  
  It takes about 30 seconds of Googling to figure this out, in case you’re interested.
  
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- AZfreeman
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 3:37pm
  @Rane
  You may be correct about filming on private property in CA….or, maybe not. The question still unanswered is, “with the camera in full sight, and no objections coming from those being filmed, is there implied consensual agreement and therefore allowable?” Progressives like you always overlook and divert attention away from the bigger underlying question. If someone is using the law to hide and cover up immoral, illegal or just plain wrongful behavior, do additional considerations need to be given to the case? Again I would refer back to James O’Keefe. Does exposing federal employees breaking the law, justify a hidden camera to do so? Why not?…federal employees use cameras to catch citizens in wrong doing all the time. Turnabout is fair play in my opinion. The ultimate battle here is – do we allow Progressives to use selected portions of the law or the Constitution to destroy the rule of law and the Constitution? I would ask folks to click your name (ranepowel) and read your posts to see where Progressives like you stand on that question. …rf
  
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- gw27
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 8:21pm
  Okay, then this question: what defines a public place? By definition, a “public place” is (from uslegal dot com) “… generally an indoor or outdoor area, whether privately or publicly owned, to which the public have access by right or by invitation, expressed or implied, whether by payment of money or not, but not a place when used exclusively by one or more individuals for a private gathering or other personal purpose…” So, as a paying student or myself as a visitor, the “whether by payment of money or not” would definitely apply. I can stand in public a public area and video a private area (stand in the hallway and video through the open door of an office – close the door if you do not want to be on video, which was done). A campus is a public place and, by the given argument that news crews can video while at a public place… I rest my case.
  
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- gw27
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 8:46pm
  P.S. ranepowel: it took less than thirty seconds to find that “public place” means “public place” (as opposed to “private place”).
  
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- gw27
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 11:34pm
  P.P.S. ranepowel: California State University, Fresno (aka Fresno State) is a public university, not a private campus – put that in your hat and smoke it.
  
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ssbstspd
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:42am
IDK redfush it seems like all colleges are liberaled out to some degree. Im from up north and all colleges are like that. I was living down south In Lousiana and I was suprised even the college kids down their were liberal. Just look at Baton Rouge, BR is turning more liberal by the day. One reason I moved out of Baton Rouge.

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- dfrosted
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:49am
  Totally agree. I still live in B.R. and am still amazed/confused at the fact that BR voted blue in the Pres election. Sad day!
  
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- armyofnibiru
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 1:38pm
  good thing you out.I hear the libs are walking with gray batons looking to make them baton rouege
  
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:41am
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The only way we are going to get this country back from the Liberals is at the end of a gun…….

Voting sure does not seem to work……

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- Normanator01
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:21am
  The only way a liberal will see the end of a gun in my presents is if one is pointed at me first. A real responsible conservative does not instigate violence….but will respond to it when the need arises.
  
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- grimmster
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:51pm
  @Spank.
  You sir are correct,as far as the liberals go, be afraid, be very afraid,and that statement includes ******* as well…….
  
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- warrior21
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 1:02pm
  If you are looking at the end of a liberal’s gun I am afraid there will be no time for you to point yours. That is our problem! Conservatives are always too late on the draw and we lose every time. Don’t be afraid to be aggressive… or you will never accomplish anything.
  
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- teapartyrocker
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 4:31pm
  Just days before the election I heard our glorious leader say “voting is the best revenge”…so it looks like voting does work! Maybe there is just more of THEM and less of US now!
  I’m not being racist am I?
  
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Serenabit
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:35am
When will people realize that the “higher education” system is a huge scheme to create indentured servants and the children have to pay for the privilege? Kids borrow money from the government, pay it to college and universities, are forced to swallow the liberal agenda in order to graduate, and then must pay back the government. In the meantime the institutions funnel a percentage of the money received to liberal and democratic organizations to perpetuate the continuance of the insanity.

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- ssbstspd
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:45am
  YEa its all highly connected. I would figure liberals are hacks and unloyal and have big mouths ? where the hell are these sissy liberals confessing ? OOO YEA THEIR IDIOTS TOO. FIGURES>
  
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- armyofnibiru
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 1:15pm
  not insanity,criminality
  
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Walkabout
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:32am
Can you imagine the plight of these professors if they had to get a PHD in engineering, psychology, mathematics, physics, chemistry?
Can you imagine the work it would take to publish papers in order to get the professional acclaim to become a full professor.

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overthecliff
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:18am
the only answer is to make them afraid.

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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:31am
  The answer is to take your money and go elsewhere, and push the video to as many high school seniors as possible. Also, he might be able to sue for anti-white discrimination, as that poem was clearly racist. He should have them forced to publish an equally offensive poem against mexicans.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:28am
  If they lose a lawsuit & go hungry, they will be afraid.
  
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forthepeople
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:10am
How about following the Law ?

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- Cavallo
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:26am
  We are a nation of men, not laws. The law is thrown by the wayside when it interferes with the comfort zone of the State and its priests and acolytes.
  
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searcher619
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 9:59am
I can’t see how he can lose the case but I hope he hurts them. These professors need to be put in their place and reminded of where they work and what their job is supposed to be. Being a Hispanic and conservative in college was interesting for me. Many didn’t know what to say when I shared some of my views and knowing where I came from (poverty) they assumed I was with them and all about taking what I didn’t work hard to earn.

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- TurboCat
  Posted on December 13, 2012 at 6:36am
  That would have been interesting to see!
  
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Barb
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 9:57am
I, unfortunately, feel as if we are too far down the toilet. This election has only emboldened the left. Even though polls show only 21% of Americans are far left and the rest are towards the center and to the right, we seem to be lurching rapidly left. Things that would have been unthinkable 5-10 years ago are now the norm. I dont know how we would ever get this country back again. The atheists are trampling our right to freedom of religion.No one cares or is doing anything about it. They are taking down the nativity scenes, crosses, use of the very word CHRISTMAS is even forbidden. Libs get their news from the comedy channel!!!! What a joke. And they listen to the massive lies and believe them. My 2 sons are libs (sigh). I tried to have a reasonable, logical conversation last week. I asked my son if he thought someone should be given a credit card without a limit on it even though they didn’t have the money to pay the debt. His answer: “yeah, I dont think I’m going to have this conversation with you”. Now, that’s willful blindness and hypocrisy, the hallmark of every lib………..He knew the right answer to the question should be HELL NO!!!!

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- Zatoichi
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:38am
  If was me, I would’ve smacked him. This is the whole problem with our country, no accountability.
  
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- DesertRose1960
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:38am
  Yes, what a joke that a certain segment of Liberals get their news from a Comedy Network satire and they still do much better at objective tests over current events than regular viewers of Fox News! And no, the use of the word “Christmas” is not banned. I live in the D.C. metro area. At 0800, Friday, November 16th WASH FM/97.1 broadcast it’s first Christmas song and it will continue doing that 24 hours a day, seven days a week until December 31st at Midnight. It calls itself the home for Christmas music and has been doing this for a dozen years. There is no war on Christmas, Christmas won, it’s everywhere. The real war on Christmas is by the people who make it about Santa, and Rudolph and all that cheap tinsel and lights. Christmas is a holy day, best celebrated with family and friends.
  
  And honey, from the sounds of it, your sons are rational and informed, which is why the one son didn’t want to talk to you. He realized he you weren’t capable and he didn’t want to insult his mother. You asked a loaded question, like “Are you still beating your pet/spouse/child?” There is no easy answer to that. Do I have to explain why to you?
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:59am
  “if he thought someone should be given a credit card without a limit on it even though they didn’t have the money to pay the debt. His answer: “yeah, I dont think I’m going to have this conversation with you
  
  We borrow more than 40 cents of every dollar spent. So a credit card analogy is not unwarranted when it come to talk of national policy. Different political parties advocate different policies. A policy of of borrowing ’til you drop is insane.
  
  The sons did not want to discuss Keynesian economic model. You can actually prove the Laffer Curve with a college freshman calculus course knowledge. But how many liberals take College calculus or if they do how many retain the knowledge. After all psychologists have shown that attempting to solve math problems cause some people screaming pain. So the sons were just exercising self preservation in refusing to discuss economics/math
  
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  “And no, the use of the word “Christmas” is not banned.”
  There is a war on Christmas. The squishy Lincoln Chafee insists on calling a Christmas Tree a holiday tree. Where is the word “Christmas” in the word “Holiday”?
  
  “Since 1979, the White House has been represented at the lighting of a national menorah in celebration of Hanukkah, beginning with the attendance of President Jimmy Carter in the ceremony in Lafayette Park” -wiki
  
  If we are to be consistent then the Menorah ceremony should be called the national Candles Stick lighting Ceremony. Yes ther
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:11am
  Note Desert Rose Come form the DC Metro area. Is there ever a recession where the Lion’s share of employment is due to the government?
  
  Keynesians posited a Phillips curve that tied nominal wage inflation to unemployment rate.
  In the 1970s, many countries experienced high levels of both inflation and unemployment also known as stagflation. Theories based on the Phillips curve suggested that this could not happen, and the curve came under a concerted attack from a group of economists headed by Milton Friedman.
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  So Kenynes Good & Supply side economics & Laffer Curve bad.
  
  That is the mantra from the left.
  
  But remember kiddies borrowing 40 top 50% of every dollar for 4 years or 8 years or a decade is goooooooooooood!.
  
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- chucksue351
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:12am
  were in the WORD (Scriptures) is there any mention of a christmas tree any way, get over it
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:21am
  WALKABOUT…make no mistake…TOKYOROSE is the Blaze’s resident unionista. “she’ll” protest that of course but she is nonetheless. She’ll proclaim all sorts of cred…she’s a teacher, she’s a christian who married a jew (cue lots of anecdotal yiddish and jewish words and occasions as “proof”)..and so on. TOKYOROSE is all things leftist. And today it’s “there’s no war on Christmas” by the left because she says a radio station in “DC” (note: she’s in a heavily liberal enclave) is playing Christmas songs non-stop till New Year’s…boy I’m convinced aren’t you? Nah…the left isn’t waging a war on christians..just ask Dan Savage or Bill Maher or your college professor.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:27am
  chucksue351
  
  There is not one. That is just further proof that the Christmas tree is generic culture that the libs should not eff with. It is proof that the Christmas tree while it has connections to Christianity is not about promoting Christianity. It is cultural.
  
  I know of people who go to church only for Christmas mass & weddings. While that is not enough to suit some people. Tough. You could look at it as an opportunity to proselytise (overtly or subtly) or you could b/tch. People are complaining about how hard it is to proselytise on the streets & reaching out. Well heIIs Bells you go a ‘captive audience’ at least one time a year. Use it.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:32am
  AvengerK
  
  I don’t think that ROSE could do Calculus. Even if she could, if she use it & economic principles to prove the Laffer curve, she would be committing blasphemy. The 1st would make her head hurt (calculus) & the 2nd would fill her with dread of transgressing liberal dogma.
  
  What might her punishment be?
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:33am
  BARB…see how it works with lefties? Years ago they realised they’ll get no where with adults like your and me so they targeted our chidren. Get them earlier and inundate them with leftist thought. You don’t matter…you’re to be maligned and ignored as a parent. You see…your children are smarter and have no reason to speak with you on matters concerning politics or society. You see…it’s the teachers and the media that will handle that part of your child’s upbringing..you’re not invited, just like TOKYOROSE said. This is the pattern the left adopted and truth be told…it’s worked. Today our colleges and schools are hotbeds of leftist indoctrination. As a result…the media, entertainment and education fields are saturated with leftists today to the point where objective journalism is dead and schools promote everything from the DREAM act to homosexuality. Just ask Californian kids..apparently it’s important that they know the contributions homosexuals have made to American society throughout history..and don’t forget your medical marijuana license either.
  BARB…TOKYOROSE is the slimiest of leftists..don’t entertain any delusions about that.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:36am
  Oh I beg to differ WALKABOUT…TOKYOROSE is constantly tooting her own horn (it’s a characteristic MONICNE displays also)…likely TOKYOROSE will come back with a revelation that “she’s” a math genius and worked with Stephen Hawkins at one point. Let’s watch….
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:05pm
  Dessert
  Are you or are you not a gubmint employee? Haven’t you alluded to that in the past? And yes, you seem like a lot of the DC drones I come across.
  
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- TheEDGE
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 12:55pm
  Oh please! Saying something is a loaded question is a way out of a losing debate for libs. The son who lives his life running from the truth will someday be bludgeoned up side the head with it. His children are going to know that their father chose to feeeeeel good instead of facing these “loaded questions” like a real man. Poo sees don’t write history.
  
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- armyofnibiru
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 2:12pm
  when jon leibowits(stewart) was asked by bill o’riely why he uses a false name?his reply was “who’s going to listen to a jew lieing about the news”.thats their news source!!!!????
  
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tajloc
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 9:57am
Time to tax the rich and I mean these faculty and the movie moguls. GOP get out of the way. Maybe the GOP will join us for the next election cycle.
TEA

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anothercomment
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 9:46am
Neil, you have a boldness that is needed for today’s American citizens. Calling people “White Savages” is racist, and should be challenged – strongly. Do this with honesty, boldness and truth. DO NOT become a Michael Moore, but take lessons from Steve Crowder. You can be the voice for students nationwide that know universities are corrupt, and the curriculum is useless. And the faculty is supporting this process. And find that lawyer that will support you with the same boldness.
Stick to your principles, the truth needs you.

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- ChiefGeorge
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:14am
  Todays NEW Racist is protected by a multi-culture narrative that says they can band together in an effort to understand and reclaim their heritage, language and culture. But when they speak in racist ways about other particular non-pigmented people they under the banner of this protection throw up the walls and do reverse charge of harrassment and threats to scare away their adversaries such as young Obrien here.
  
  The real issue here is not really so much about politics as it is about racists on campus masquerading as a student boy group for whatever studies. How does institutional rascism get well….Institutionalized? This is how! What does Institutional Racism Look Like? This is what it looks like.
  
  The way to challenge them is form the Irish American studies group and see their ugly racist masks come off.
  
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- ConsRight
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:22am
  Can you imagine the fallout if someone were to write black savage in the university newspaper? or hispanic savage? You know what? Forget that because it would NEVER be allowed. NEVER!
  
  Whites are the targets of vicious racism and we have been emasculated. We have become the target.
  
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jungle J
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 9:28am
conservatives by nature are conservative in their actions. The enemy within infiltrates them and becomes a provocateur. How can they win?

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ColoradoMaverick
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 9:09am
Everyone who reads this story needs to call the university at 559-278-5000 or 559-278-4240 and send the university president an email.

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betsyyoung
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 9:04am
The secular progressives have been infiltrating America’s universities for 50+ years, and we stood by and did nothing! Now it is causing huge problems with our kids!! It is almost too late to do a thing about it, as “they” are everywhere! True Americans will suffer the consequences for ignoring the intrusion of these people such as the terrorist, Bill Ayers and the inimitable Frances Fox Piven!

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- OBUMAURMAMA
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:03am
  Not all of us idly stood by. When we went to the powers that be, we were sued by small groups, called racists without a racist slur told we were against educating the “children” and they “were for the children”. Government representitives like Byrd, Reid and many of the Nixon, LBJ, and Carter people were down on everyone that went against the schools. When the Dept. of Education was formed was when good caring people were thrown to the curb. Look at the way the media and Government officials treat people now. One person started this garbage about taking God away and sued any and all and won. Very few people until the Unions got into it and became a voting block.
  
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Just_Us2
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 9:03am
Sometimes, violence IS the answer.

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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:34am
  Violence has solved more problems than pacifism ever has.
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:58am
Now we have more proof of the methods and indoctrination and intolerance of the leftists in the schools. Time to clean house.

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- G-WHIZ
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 9:59am
  Time to pick-up a CONSERVATIVE BROOM!!
  
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Landon410
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:56am
wait, the school hired an illegal ALIEN (not immigrant) to be their president? seriously?

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Justus39
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:55am
Our colleges and universities are being run as Gulags. Come to think of it prisoners have more rights than a Conservative student.

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- dugbru
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:26am
  Nah they are “re-education” camps
  
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Justus39
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:54am
The colleges and universities in America are being run a Gulags. Instead of free open thought these professors are acting like Prison guards. Come to thinks of it even prisoners have more freedom of speech and thought.

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ricckky
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:53am
What’s happened to free speech in America? We are losing our rights slowly but surely–This is how communism began!! Mark Levin’s book Liberty and Tyranny spells it all out!!! Please you Libs–start using your brain you so much feel is far superior than the Conservatives. BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!!!!

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muffythetuffy
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:53am
I WAS BORN HERE IN AMERICA AND I AM A CITIZEN.

What about my dreams. This is my country not the illegal alien’s country. My dream is only legal aliens should be allowed.

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- HumbleMan
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:28am
  Yes … he is “illegal”, I am not. If he went to trouble of getting a bachelor’s degree that he can’t use, well then he’s just stupid.
  
  Go home hombre!
  
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DZ-015
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:49am
Sounds like a vast left wing conspiracy to me. Find a good lawyer.

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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:57am
  ANOTHER EXCELLENT EXAMPLE JUSTIFYING SECESSION
  
  Those professors can do that because they have the power and don’t have to worry about anything. If this student does file a suet, some openly gay Judge will just dismiss the case. If it gets to the disgraced and despicable US Supreme Court they will side with the college professors. There isn’t anything a white person can do.
  
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redfish52
Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:46am
Son….you are fighting a lost cause…you will never in your lifetime change the California Liberal thought process…you need to come to South Carolina were you will find a majority of like minded college students to hang with…I recommend Clemson highly…..

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- mikem1969
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 8:55am
  amen red.
  
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- Zipit
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 9:03am
  You are right Redfish! You will likely not change the liberal thought process! But keep at it! Expose these idiots every chance you get!!! We need more young people just like this!!
  
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- ssbstspd
  Posted on December 12, 2012 at 10:57am
  Redfish. I love catching red fish, anyways RED its happening everywhere. Even in the south. Liberalism is spreading like a bad disease, its scary. We must fight it to the death but it must be very clever and creative.
  
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