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Bill O’Reilly Unleashes on ‘Secular Clown Posse,’ Lectures Media About the Nativity & the Founding Fathers

Dec. 14, 2012 7:42am Billy Hallowell

Bill OReilly Unleashes on Media, Lectures on Nativity, Christianity & the Founding Fathers

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Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly isn’t backing away from his claims surrounding the annual War on Christmas. In fact, on Thursday night, he doubled down, dismissing a “secular clown posse” comprised of media figures who purportedly have little knowledge about the nation’s founding.

While he noted that conservatives have won some of the battles in the the annual debate over Nativity displays, crosses and “holiday trees,” O’Reilly warned that the War on Christmas is far from over and that it is, in fact, ”symbolic of the entire culture war.”

During the segment, the popular host called out Newsweek Magazine’s recent claim that the battle has concluded and that the issue has been won in favor of conservatives. In addition to noting Newsweek’s take, the host also target Associated Press TV writer Frazier Moore, who recently lambasted O’Reilly for his stance on the War on Christmas.

“Moore is one of the legions of media who have formed a secular clown posse, a bunch of people who have no blanking idea what this country was founded on,” O’Reilly proclaimed.

“The O’Reilly Factor” host went on to clarify his stance on Christianity, describing the differences between the religious construct as a faith and a philosophy.

“Christianity is a religion for those who believe Jesus is God and for those who join a specific church to celebrate that belief,” he explained. “But Christianity is a philosophy to people like Thomas Jefferson who did not believe that Jesus was a deity — and Mr. Jefferson as well as many of the Founding Fathers incorporated the Judeo-Christian philosophy into the Constitution.”

O’Reilly also noted that Nativity scenes merely honor the life of Jesus and that no one is being forced to accept, based on the imagery, that Christ is a deity. These displays simple depict his birth — something that can be celebrated regardless of faith views.

“At Christmas, Jesus is honored as a man who helped humanity,” O’Reilly explained.

Watch the segment, below:

O’Reilly’s comments follow recent on-air clashes about similar subjects with American Atheists president David Silverman and Rhode Island Governor Lincoln Chafee, among others.

(H/T: Mediaite)

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commoncents5
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 12:59pm
Why didn’t Christians fight back years ago when the left began its campaign of separation of church and state? When the opposition says they do not want “their” tax dollars for the maintenance of government buildings to pay for the Ten Commandments that have been in every building for 150 + years or any tribute that may be faith connected then I say tuff stuff I pay taxes too. There are only so many rights to go around and why should the elite with the most lawyer power rule the majority.

The left would have a stroke if they knew that December 25th was the conception and not the birth.
But the powers of the “religious” leaders want to keep the fables and fairytales going. Santa & the easter bunny are fables and have no place in God’s word. Most teach that their followers are going to fly out of here so they won’t go thru any kind of tribulation. Most teach that you must turn the other cheek and be a door mat for abuse. False. You turn the other cheek if the person is a like minded brother and you offended them. If the person is clearly a heathen then deck him! When the false christ is here he will be peaceful to pass as Jesus. Revelation clearly states the false christ will be none other than Satan himself. The Christians living at that time who are NOT deceived by Satan will henceforth expecting till His enemies be made His footstool! Look at how easy it is to deceive people now!

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- Jenny Lind
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 1:22pm
  Because we thought we were a free people and that those who objected to this were a tiny minority, and still are, but a very well funded and organized minority. Remember half of the US no longer goes to church or cares one way or another. Bet my stat is wrong-somebody please correct it with correct numbers. We had no idea which way our country would turn-with a lot of help from progressives and liberals teaching our kids. In other words, we were asleep at the wheel and now have a wreck on our hands.
  
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ltcwilly
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 12:57pm
I cringe every time Billy O starts talking theology. Last night’s talking points were directed at a noble cause, but when he tries to explain what Christians believe it is always pathetically weak (normal for someone who likes to talk about being “raised a Catholic”). Also, his complete over-generalization about Jefferson shows his total lack of historical knowledge. Sorry, Bilbo….stick to political stuff because you’re Biblical knowledge is non-existent.

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- DennisHabern1
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 6:24pm
  Hey Einstein:
  
  Why should anyone believe your dribble concerning history and religion? At least O’reilly was a
  
  Social Studies teacher, consisting of : History, Economics, Psychology, Sociology and Government
  
  in Florida. What is your level of education, and by-the-way, have you ever worn the military uniform?
  
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- frankcox
  Posted on December 15, 2012 at 12:33am
  I cringe as well but at least he tries and is heard. I just wish there was a way to reply to the genius who offered 10k for a Bible verse. America has been so dumbed down that people like him who never spent 10 seconds studying what David Barton teaches much less investigated his claims which are in the Congressional record can making such an insane claim that America was founded by atheist and find those brainless enough to listen!. If the schools were not so corrupt all it would take is to allow the students to read the debate over the first amendment to silence the nonsense about Franklin , of course Jefferson had nothing to do with it as he was in Europe the whole time. We need to inform people that Jefferson helped start and regularly attended church in the Capital building and that using the government buildings as churches on Sunday was common practice. To listen to the left Jefferson and Franklin were the only founding fathers and were Satanist . neither which has any basis in fact as you know. We need to let people know that well over half of the signers of the Declaration had theology degrees, the remainder save 3 were at least Deacons in their church.
  Wonder if that guy knows what Pilgrim means , I guess to him they were wondering atheists.
  The best proof he is wrong is that if the fathers were atheists there would be no religious freedom at all, actually there would be no freedom period!
  
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lvjohn
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 12:38pm
People wake up these clowns running this country (democrats) are not socialists or secularists or liberals they are Communists period and they are trying to destroy this country. It starts at the top and works its way down, they are dangerous anti-American fools.

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Deadbang
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 12:29pm
How about one of you geniuses explaining the purpose of the separation of church and state in the constitution as it was INTENDED. Then stop using it as your tool to remove religious symbols because it is a flawed argument even if an uneducated judge used it to set precedent. I’m really not religious and don’t find the ten comandments in a court house or whatever making me want to run to a church and pray. If you don’t like something ignore it. I keep getting confused as I was always told social progersssives were so tolerant of everyone and everything. This couldn’t be further from the truth.

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breedofthe45
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 12:27pm
These ‘Socialists’[atheists...tomatoes or tomato] want Christians and Jews gone, destroyed, just as their Social Justice ancestors want it in the 1920s and beyond, that’s why they don’t do nothing to Muslims. Is not because Muslims are out of their jurisdiction, these Che Guevara Marxists fanatics even help Muslims to spread their so called ‘democracy’ in the Middle East at Palestine or Egypt so please Christians and Jewish people wake the hell up. This ain’t a ‘debate’ anymore, these ‘atheists’ think that if we ‘replace’ anything that is ‘judeo-christian’ and stamp it as ‘Secular’ that somehow is ‘social justice’. The irony is that these ‘secular clowns’ don’t have no ‘problem’ with the ‘Judeo-Christian’ Laws, they just don’t like the Jewish Deity that gave the Law so they ‘replaced’ the Jewish Deity and claim the ‘Law’ as their own, since there is no ‘God’ to ‘reclaim it’.
If you are a Christian or a Israel Native you are the ‘enemy’ of these ‘Progressive Socialists’..period, why do Christians and Jews wants to ‘debate’ these ‘people’ for? You are their ‘enemies’, how can you debate someone who will do anything to silence you and persecute you for? What are you gonna win? Ain’t the whole book of ‘Revelations’ in the ‘evil’ Bible warned all of you about these days? So why so surprise? They hate that invisible ‘Jewish Deity’ that somehow is ‘forcing them to eat at Chick-A-Fil-A and decorate Pine Trees to summon a theocracy

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- bintalshamsa
  Posted on December 15, 2012 at 1:44am
  Did you know that the churches in Palestine side with the Muslims? Have you ever stopped and considered why it is that Christians who actually live in these countries aren’t listened to? Why don’t you take the time to read about what followers of Judaism are doing to Christians in that region before you claim that it’s the Muslims who are out to destroy them. SMH
  
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- TERossi
  Posted on December 15, 2012 at 5:36pm
  Jews run Boko Haram?
  
  You’re a Useful Idiot.
  
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standupforthegood
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 11:28am
Once again so sad that so many people are so incredibly ignorant. First of all Christianity is’nt a religion. Religion comes from man not from God. God is God. He is the creator and the whole reason any of us are here to even argue over such silliness. Christian symbols and nativity scenes are a part of America and have been throughout our history. They were here as I grew up and where here when my parents grew up and have always been since the founding of our country and to you atheists who are offended by Christ all I have to say to you in your quest to stamp out christianity is this. Scripture state that every person has the knowledge of God. You were born with it and are without excuse and will face Him on your dying day so you may want to wake up,quit carrying on like badly behaved school children while you still have time and if you still have time as you will stand in judgement before Christw whther

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- ranepowel
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 11:37am
  Since Christianity isn’t a religion, you’re cool with churches giving up their tax exempt status, right?
  
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- Slammo
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 11:59am
  I think you need to educate yourself about athiests. We are no more offended about christ then the tooth fairy or leprechuns. We are not trying to stamp out your religion, we are trying to stamp out you using public property and funds to push your religion down everyones throats.
  
  Your argument about it just being around for along time is mute. Slavery was around for a long time, are you upset we got rid of that? Women were not alowed to vote for a long time, should that have stayed?
  
  Almost every athiest supports your freedom to practice your religion,I served in the Army to protect it, we just think you should do it in your home or your church, not on the lawn of the PUBLIC library,school or courthouse.Why is that too much to ask?
  
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- bintalshamsa
  Posted on December 15, 2012 at 1:56am
  Slammo, that’s not too much to ask! As an Eastern Orthodox Christian (heno)theist, I wish for the same thing. Because I love my church and the work that I’ve seen it do for others, I’d gladly contribute more if our church was required to pay taxes. In fact, I think that paying taxes might be the best thing that ever happened to the church in America because a lot of folks who resent the tax-free status would no longer have to wonder whether the folks who run churches are just doing it for the free perks. Separation of church and state is as much for the benefit of the church as it is for the state.
  
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shorelineliz
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 11:16am
Sorry Bill. Christianity is not a philosophy. It is a faith IN Jesus Christ as Lord. Somebody school O’Reilly on Christian Theology 101. Whoops! I think I just did.

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- ltcwilly
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 1:01pm
  LIZ,
  You can’t school Bilbo O’Reilly, since he believes he’s an expert on everything. As I have said before, it makes one cringe to hear him venture into the realm of Christian theology and the Scripture. He should read C.S. Lewis regarding the ‘religion’ and ‘philosophy’ discussion. Jesus can only be one of three things…a Liar, a Lunatic, or LORD. There are no other choices.
  
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- patents
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 2:11pm
  Slammo claims athiests do not object to religion, but they object to using public funds in the form of occupying a portion of public land for a creche or other religious display. I must remind him/her that proportionately there are more Christians than athiests, so if in fact the use of otherwise vacant land requires the use of public funds, more funding coming from Christians are used than funding from athiests.
  
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Pantloadian
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:31am
Christianity is not a religion. It is a philosophy. As such it deserves the same respect and attention as any other philosophy . . . like NAMBLA.

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- bintalshamsa
  Posted on December 15, 2012 at 1:59am
  I’d LOVE to see the look on O’Reilly’s face if someone told him that on air. LOL
  
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azghost
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:30am
Ever noticed how atheists( ones that do not believe in God) never go after the Muslims & their moon god? When going after a child of God is really more dangerous, in the hear after.They are more worried about their flesh than their soul!

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- Slammo
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:51am
  The reason you think we don’t go after muslims or any other group is because they never try and put their religious symbols on public property.Don’t worry,we don’t believe in their god just as much as we don’t believe in yours.
  
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- Grubmeister
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:52am
  How exactly do you suggest they go after the muslim faith? They have no presence in the separation debate that I know.
  A huge number of atheists have been critical of Islam, most citing it as more dangerous than christianity to freedom, democracy and personal safety.
  Really, this is a serious question that I would like an answer to. We can’t take a foreign government to court as we have no jurisdiction. Many of us have already supported the war in Afghanistan. We’ve been critical in books (Harris, Hitchens, Dawkins, etc.).
  I’m beginning to believe this common rant is nothing more than bellyaching because christians are the most common target of atheist lawsuits and criticism.
  Again, just what more would you like to see from atheists so that you can die happy knowing we were unhappy with all the other religions that attempt to interfere in our lives?
  
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- tslate
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 12:40pm
  Slammo, etc. I can’t stop laughing. Implementing Sharia law isn’t “noticeable”, a call to prayer over loudspeakers in a city isn’t “noticeable”, suing a company for the right to wear a “hijab” or placing “footbaths” in public isn’t noticeable.,etc. All of these are very public and one way or another will effect the “public” and require “public” funds to maintain or deal with. Arguing for arguments sake to keep vilifying your favorite religion doesn’t change the fact that you hate Christianity. I find equally laughable that coyly claim you don’t care about religion as long as it’s not using public funds. Right and I’ll just bet you don’t start spewing hate and drooling when passing a church and seeing those ignorant masses.
  
  Your kind of selective logic doesn’t see the irony in allowing public funds for abortions and yet desiring to restrict them for charitable faith based organizations that fulfill a tremendous need in society. Faith based organizations aren’t all about preaching and sermons, mostly it’s about doing. Your kind just likes to focus in on the hate part to get more traction for your cause. Ever heard of World Vision or many other organizations like them doing charitable work all over the world. Yeah we leave it up to your ilk and Eugenics and guys like Hitler would be in charge in every other country in the world.
  
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- Slammo
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 1:11pm
  Tslate, like I said before, maybe you should talk to an athiest to find out what we stand for. You could not be further from the truth. I don’t believe in abortion. I think it is murder. Don’t confuse athiests with liberals. I am very conservitive, I just don’t believe in fairytales.
  
  You tell me where in our country sharia law has been passed. I will fight it.I hear bells from the church next to my house all the time, do I try and make them stop? So what is the difference? And if a person wants to sue a private company, then thats for the courts to decide. Tell me this, would you sue your job if they told you you couldn’t wear a cross around your neck to work. You are darn right you would. So tell me, whats the difference?
  
  And I’m sorry, as much as you would like it and it would fit your narrative, I do not hate religion or you. You just take me not believing in your god personally and take it as an attack and hatred to you. It sounds to me the hate is from you, towards muslims. I’m sorry I don’t share your hate.
  
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- Slammo
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 1:20pm
  Also Tslate, I don’t mean to burst your bubble but, hitler was raised catholic and was a christian. Not to good for your argument.
  
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- LIBSALWAYSLIE
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 1:22pm
  SLAMMO, you just exposed yourself as a complete moron! Are you really that stupid????
  
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- Slammo
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 1:39pm
  Ok , tell me how? Libsalwayslie
  
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- Slammo
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 1:57pm
  “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the almight creator:by defending myself against the jew. I am fighting for the work of the lord” Adolf Hitler.
  
  Kinda scary when those religious people get in charge, huh.
  
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- Slammo
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 2:07pm
  “The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God’s will, and actually fulfill God’s will, and not let God’s word be desecrated. For God’s will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord’s creation, the divine will.” Adolf Hitler.
  
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- bintalshamsa
  Posted on December 15, 2012 at 2:17am
  I don’t know if it’s more laughable or pathetic when I see folks who are self-proclaimed Christians that engage in this “moon god” nonsense talk. Maybe someone should inform them that Christians have been calling their deity “Allah” longer than they’ve been calling Him “God”. If they took the time to actually STUDY Christianity, they’d quickly learn that Arabic Christians still use “Allah” and it’s found throughout the Bible and throughout various Christian texts that have been written over the centuries. SMH
  
  قدوس الله، قدوس القوي، قدوس الذي لا يموت ارحمنا
  Quddusun Allah! Quddusun alqawi! Quddusun aladhi, la yamut irhamna
  Holy God, Holy Mighty, Holy Immortal, Have mercy on us
  Agios o Theos, agios ischyros, agios athanatos, eleison imas
  
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Buddynoel
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:29am
Obviously FOX News didn’t get Bill’s memo. Just after his rant, the network went into the commercial break with a graphic wishing everyone “Happy Holidays from FOX News.” Amen.

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- bintalshamsa
  Posted on December 15, 2012 at 2:20am
  Are you trying to make their brains explode around here? If Fox News is fighting for the enemy in the War on Christmas, what else might those wily characters be misleading people about?
  
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Jude 4
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:29am
I would take issue with Bill’s claim that a ‘philosophical’ perpective of Jesus, acknowledging only His humanity, was the consensus behind the language in the constitution. A brief overview of the charters of the colonies, would quickly dispel this opinon. Jefferson and Franklin would have been quite satisfied to un-god Jesus altogether if they could have. They lost that battle handily, if one considers the prevailing conscience of the day. Most, if not all, of the New England charters explicitly stated a dependence and submission to Almighty God, which included the evangelization of the Native Americans. Jefferson removed all references to Jesus deity and miracles out of the scriptures. Jesus says to deny Him this way, is to deny God hiumself, which according to scripture, characterizes a person as a “fool”. The idols of ‘reason’ alone (void of divine revelation) are nothing in the sight of God, and will be brought to nothing for their pride. They will be “caught in their own craftiness.” Jesus is “God in the flesh”, and no other description is acceptable with the ever blessed and only potentate; King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

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- VRW Conspirator
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 11:03am
  No disrespect to Jefferson or Franklin or those Founders that believed as they did, which wasn’t that many, but they should know better.
  As a professor of mine, a PhD in History and Theology and an ordained Methodist minister who left being pastor of his church because he said the leaders of the Methodist Church on a nation level were removing the morality, virtue, and God’s Word from the Bible in order to be more “accepting” and “open” (ie. they were removing the “offensive” Christian teachings about the sanctity of life, marriage, and sex and trying to make Jesus more appealing), said “there are only 3 choices as to who Jesus really was if you take him at his word and the word of those around him and the words of historians and officials of the time. A) he was the Son of God B) he was absolutely INSANE and should have been committed C) he was some sort of sympathetic healer/magician (the Bible is full of people that did “magic” and had special “powers”) that was conning people.”
  
  Those were the only three choices and the choices we had to right our final paper on, using evidence from the Bible itself, historical accounts outside the Bible, and the oldest writings available on the subject.
  
  You can not say “Jesus was just a good guy with some good ideas” when he preached about obeying God and being God’s Son, LITERALLY calling God Father. He would be labeled “insane” or “delusional” today for saying that.
  
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- VRW Conspirator
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 11:16am
  One other thing Jude…Jefferson removed mention of Jesus’ “divinity” not “deity” but he left in certain miracles to that the Native Americans could see the power of God working within the Christian faith. Jefferson might have struggled with the idea that Jesus was God and the Son of God but he did not doubt that there was a God and that God divinely inspired men to become more than normal, through intellect and action. Even Franklin believed mightily in God and His Grace and Mercy.
  
  Many of the “deists” in the Founding generation were simply at odds with the idea of the Trinity and the “divine nature” of Jesus, ie the Immaculate Conception. Many churches today still question and speak out strongly about these two things, mainly as a way to fuel their tyrates and open disgust for the Catholic Church, speaking to “sola scriptura” and the fact that they seem to think the Trinity is not mentioned explicitly in the Bible nor taking Jesus at His word that Simon would become the “rock” of Jesus’ ministry and church on Earth (the Catholic idea of a papacy and a papal successor divinely chosen by Jesus).
  
  Having Founders with these ideals would be expected seeing as many were Anglican and only 100 years removed from the Protestant Reformation and many of the first colonies were founded by those with “puritanical” ideals about the Bible, traditions, and practices of the Catholic faith at the time.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 12:14pm
  @VRW
  
  “A) he was the Son of God B) he was absolutely INSANE and should have been committed C) he was some sort of sympathetic healer/magician (the Bible is full of people that did “magic” and had special “powers”) that was conning people.””
  
  Your professor didn’t macreate this argument. This is C. S. Lewis’s “Trilemma.” It says that Jesus must be one of these: liar, lunatic, or Lord. Atheists I’ve spoken with add another L to the mix: legend, aka that Jesus the man existed, and as time went on more and more supernatural and miraculous events were added to his account to make him seem more than just a simple rabbi, but a fulfilled prophecy, the son of God.
  
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- VRW Conspirator
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 12:53pm
  @Locked…
  that is the idea that Jesus was just a “sympathetic healer” which the Bible has and Jewish tradition has as well. A Godly man that has been accredited or gifted with the ability to heal wounds.
  the problem with the “legend” aspect is that there are accounts from the time period, meaning Roman and Jewish records and historical accounts, the mention him, his following, and his “supposed” miracles that were attributed to him. These accounts not only come from the time of his death but the few decades directly following.
  The Gospel of Luke is a prime example. Luke was not one of the 12, he was a historian that set out to interview and gather evidence, which included the Gospel of Mark and Matthew more than likely, and then wrote his own accounting trying to be a factual as possible based on the eye witness accounts that were available.
  
  The “legend” idea also would basically have to content that those words attributed to Jesus in all four Gospels and the rest of the New Testament were created or embellished or both but the writers of the Gospels and books of the New Testament.
  
  The main question then becomes, Why? Why over a period of 40-60 years after the death of a man would you write legends about him turning him into the Son of God and forming a religious movement around him that numbered in the 100,000s made up of all nationalities that really didn’t have a need to unite?
  
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- Locked
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 1:18pm
  @VRW
  
  “the problem with the “legend” aspect is that there are accounts from the time period, meaning Roman and Jewish records and historical accounts, the mention him, his following, and his “supposed” miracles that were attributed to him. These accounts not only come from the time of his death but the few decades directly following.”
  
  What are you defining as time period? There are most certainly no written accounts of His death from eye-witnesses, and no written accounts period within decades of the event.
  
  “The Gospel of Luke is a prime example…”
  
  Except Luke was written at least three decades after Christ’s death, and the authorship is not at all agreed upon (though most agree the author was a fervent Christian). The author is unmentioned, though in the late second century (around 170AD) it was attributed to Luke the Evangelist by church leaders. There are other references to it around the same time period that do not mention Luke as the author at all.
  
  Also, there’s a difference between liar and legend. The liar is a conman, like you said. The legend could be a sincere teacher, who then had words put in His mouth as time passed and others added miracles to him. This happened many times in history. Alexander the Great and the Caesars of Rome all had prophecies attributed to them (and were all born from virgins, interestingly). We don’t believe such things now, of course; but at the time it was common practice.
  
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davecorkery
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:18am
Twas the fight before christmas, and all through the land, Bill O’Liely was crying that change was at hand.

Yup. Get used to it.

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Canada_Goose
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:15am
If I understand Mr. O’Reilly’s argument, a nativity scene is a religious symbol when displayed on Church or private property, but is at the same time a non-religious symbol when displayed on public property, which simply depicts the birth of Jesus as a non-deity.

So Jesus can be both a deity and a regular dude based on the location of the nativity scene.

To use a physics analogy Jesus is a kind of Schrodinger’s Cat who in this specific case takes on either of two meanings based on the location of the display.

Really?

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- strawberry411a
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:45am
  Quiet Canadian screecher.
  
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- mikefromaltoona
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 11:10am
  I never cared for Schrodinger, and frankly, I always hope that when the box is opened, his cat is dead. If he had a dog, however, I would want it to be found alive. I like dogs.
  
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- bintalshamsa
  Posted on December 15, 2012 at 2:29am
  MikeFromAltoona, Ceiling Cat says you’re going to the basement!
  
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Amarath01
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:01am
Bill O’really is right.
Lets throw all of AB, and all the spirit makers in jail…
After all ach is the most harmful drug out there.
Wait bill wants to pick and choose his bad guys. Hypocrite.

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teddyc73
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 9:20am
Thank you Bill! Thank you. Bill O’Reilly is the only person I know fighting for this issue and pointing out the truth. Most of us Christians just roll over and give in.

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- Pantloadian
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:29am
  Your god in danger is he?
  
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Locked
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 9:09am
The War on Christmas is BS, and everyone with a brain knows it. Are there people out there who legitimately detest Christmas and Christianity? Certainly. Are they outnumbered dozens of times over by people who hate them? Without a doubt. The kind of person who thinks there is a war on Christmas is the one who thinks if there’s public property WITHOUT a Nativity scene or Christmas Tree after Thanksgiving, then their views are being infringed and trampled.

They’re also big-government folks and not conservatives, and generally I don’t think we’ll see eye-to-eye.

Most Christians are smart people who realize this and roll their eyes at O’Reilly and his ilk when they pipe up about this annual “battle”. I’m one of their number. O’Reilly uses the War on Christmas to get viewers. End of story.

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- teddyc73
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 9:18am
  You’re clueless. But hey, what do I know, I have no brain.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 9:25am
  It is indeed all about ratings for O’Reilly
  
  However, I do believe our society is at war with itself, with both sides hyped up by people like Bill Maher and Bill O’Reilly. This is done in order to distract Americans from the real issues. Remember – Bread and Circus…..
  
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- Locked
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 9:29am
  @Teddy
  
  Nah, you’re just a progressive. I hold out hope that one day you’ll become a conservative.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 9:31am
  @Soybomb
  
  “I do believe our society is at war with itself, with both sides hyped up by people like Bill Maher and Bill O’Reilly. This is done in order to distract Americans from the real issues.”
  
  I agree. It’s all about the show. Keep people plugged in, their emotions running high, and their brains turned off. It’s proven that getting angry gets you “high.” It’s no wonder we have people willing to get mad at nothing rather than rationally analyzing the problems we face today… and doing something about it!
  
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Vegasdad702
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:47am
Here comes the controversy-This is interesting, and like Bill, I would like to see Christmas left alone already. I do agree with him 100% on the origins and the connection our founders had in drafting this nation with Christianity as its moral compass and building blocks. Anyone who denies that is either uneducated or CHOOSING to ignore facts. That said I think I am beginning to agree with what Penn Jillette said last week on Glenn Becks program. Basically that if it is on public property and we leave one person out it is NOT equal. Private property rights are different than public, and as much as I PERSONALLY would like to leave the Judeo Christian images up, the opposing side does have a RIGHT to protest. Im not sold 100% either way yet but bottom line, I believe our founders would have sided with freedom above all. You decide if that freedom had underlying Christian guidelines or not.

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- Rightallalong
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:52am
  O’Liberal is a propressive big government POS. He thinks he knows more than everyone else becasue he went to H A R V A R D …. he makes sure he says it enough so everyone knows. BILLO also has no respect for the constitution as noted in this video
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isd0FlGb_LY
  
  And watch him defend himself
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICoiFBWGX4M
  
  … what a piece of garbage. I am shocked that anyone that considers themself an American and a lover of Liberty would think accept anything that hater of LIberty has to say
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 9:08am
  @Vegasdad
  
  I found that Penn interview very insightful as well. If a courthouse or whatever public building allows Christians to put up their nativity, they also must allow the muslims to put up whatever their thing is….We don’t want that, do we?
  
  I would rather nativity and things like that be done on private property.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 9:31am
  SOY, you are finally doing it by showing your true colors. Christmas is a declared federal holiday and signed into law in 1870. This done from a bill that went through the Congress and not by Executive Order. Go ahead and drop your misspelling of the word Liberal and embrace it as you should. Go back your beloved 0bama avatar. We’ll understand. Oh yeah, Merry Christmas. Hope that does not melt you like water on the Wicked Witch of the West.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 9:44am
  @RJ
  As usual, your hatred is terribly misplaced. If you read my post with understanding, you would know I am forseeing the event when our government buildings are displaying islam/wicken/budhist things. Wouldn’t that be a bad thing?
  
  Not everyone who you disagree with is your enemy – as a Christian, you should know this. Calling me liberal and Obama lover is ignorance on your part. That Obama avatar I had for a few weeks was a mocking picture and I have seen others do it on this site as well (and it was a very funny thing related to the Olympics – but humor is lost on you).
  
  As long as you cant distinguish between your enemies and people you can agree with on 90% of the issues – then things will continue to get worse. I say this because you are representative of an unfortunately high number of republican types
  
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- ranepowel
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 11:46am
  RJ, by your logic, if Islamic holidays were voted upon and made national holidays by law, you’d be cool with public buildings closing down and displaying Islamic effigies, right?
  
  Personally, I like the day off, but Christmas isn’t about Christ or Christianity to I’d say most people out there. Just look at the ads on TV, for crying out loud. Christmas is about shopping and gifts and getting a day off.
  
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- DLV
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 12:03pm
  RJ- I have to be with Soy on this one. He wasnt putting down or mocking Christianity in anyway and he has made his dislike for Obama known. I really don’t understand how this can be confusing. This is one conservative fault I’ve noticed trying to destroy people who don’t agree with every little thing we believe in. Lighten up and be glad he isnt a brain dead progressive zombie.
  
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cddbrowns
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:45am
This is exactly what needs to be said. Yes, to Christians, the nativity is much more than this. But to the secular world, it is viewed as a joke and myth. Historically, Jesus was a real person, they cannot deny. Laying it out like this, the left has very little to argue with. With the way the left twists and plays with words to almost GUILT you into losing every value you have, I’m happy to see someone fighting back with the same tactic. We are too nice on this side if the fence, time to start fighting.

One thing about the Muslims, they at least fight for their religions, the Christians and Jews seem to continue to say “God has my back”. That is correct, he has your back, but you have to do more than cower behind your bible, you have to stand up and defend to the teeth.

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- pdw
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 9:01am
  It sure cannot be because it would offend Muslims they believe he was a great prophet and like many “Christians” do not believe he is God. But then if you cannot promote hate to control masses and make them slaves to the government then how can they get so much power and money?
  
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- ranepowel
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 11:50am
  There is in no way near enough proof to say whether Jesus was a real person or not. Most likely a Jewish myth to try and appease an enslaved people, saying that to suffer is ok, as it will lead to redemption. Sounds like the EXACT story you’d want to tell a whole civilization living under Roman rule.
  
  Myth. Nothing more.
  
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- cddbrowns
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:04pm
  Hey rane, you’re an idiot….
  
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ORACLE12389
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:27am
I was about to say, Bill I don’t like you already if you trash talk the juggalos we’re going to have a problem.

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RIGS
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:26am
I hope your mother inlaws computer gets a virus and she has to buy a new one.

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- Red Meat
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:38am
  >>RIGS
  
  It’s not healthy being inebriated this early in the day. Go sleep it off and come back later.
  
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- strawberry411a
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:46am
  You blabber but say nothing.
  
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SaturdaysWarrior76
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:19am
Good for him! I wish he had been this passionate about issues during the election… seems like he’s coming to the party a little late… but hey! I’ll take it. Better late than never. Wether you like him or not, you have to admit Bill O’Reilly has a way with words, and the ability to reach many people.

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alrunner58
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:13am
Get em Bill!

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- davecorkery
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:16am
  Bill is an idiot. Typical christian. Facts don’t match reality? Twist your facts to accommodate the legend! And the sheep will follow…
  
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- Ironz
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 10:36am
  Red,
  I was going to comment on your last three replies but it would be a waste of time, since your brains are in another part of your body
  
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- bobbiejean
  Posted on December 15, 2012 at 12:53am
  @ALRUNNER58, That’s how I feel, too, Al. May not always agree with him, but he
  is passionate about this topic. Matches his passion against child abusers who are
  given light sentences by a judge.
  
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tradcatholicgirl
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:06am
I wish O’Reilly would get off the fence already. He is an embarrassment to devout Christians and Catholics.

Nativity scenes are not just there to “honor Jesus who helped humanity.” If that were the case, nativity scenes would be on par with a statue of Jonas Salk, who discovered the polio vaccine.

The birth of Christ was a profoundly crucial moment in the history of the entire world, and was in the mind of God from the beginning!

The depiction of that event cannot be made to see more secular, Billy!

Yes, there is a war on Christ and Christianity, and the war on Christmas is just one aspect. Bill “the pompous one” needs to get a set of b***s.

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- RIGS
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:33am
  You are one of the goody goody catholics that voted for obama and is a catholic in name only and knows all about male testicles.
  
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- Red Meat
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:40am
  >>tradcatholicgirl
  
  Nice post. Ditto.
  
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- culpeperminuteman
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:48am
  Are you a “devout Christian or Catholic”? I’m thinking not, because if you were you would practice the whole “Love thy neighbor” and not attack Bill using vulgar and defamatory names. Grow up and maybe you would see he is spot on about this.
  
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- Smug
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 9:29am
  Yes, I agree with your point that the birth of Christ was a profound moment and has had a tremendous impact on humanity. But because secularists function as they do. Anything pertaining to the spirit is a concept they refuse to accept, or can’t comprehend. I think that’s why he explained it in this manner. They understand the material and physical world. That‘s why the comparison to someone who we, and they hold in high regard……..MSSMUG
  
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Red Meat
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:01am
The clown is Bill O’Reilly and his RINO colleagues on FOX News.

And like Beck remember, if you don’t by their latest book your a communist, terrorist, Satan himself…

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- RIGS
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:29am
  Go see barney frank he has some RED MEAT for you.
  
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- Red Meat
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 8:36am
  >>RIGS
  Ha ha. You make joke. Funny funny man. Have you had your morning dose of RINO yet big fella?
  
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- Pontiaku
  Posted on December 14, 2012 at 12:30pm
  O’Reilly is a progressive and a ratings whore. Stopped watching him years ago after he got Neal Boortz blacklisted on fox news.
  
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huey6367
Posted on December 14, 2012 at 7:46am
No matter what kind of ‘war’ is proclaimed, Christmas wins every year.

If you don’t know what that means, you are part of the problem.

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