[Editor’s note: The following is a cross post by Tanya Ashreena that first appeared on CNBC.com]:
Employers are struggling to fill entry-level vacancies, despite the fact that there are 75 million unemployed young people worldwide, Diana Farrell, Director and Co-founder at the McKinsey Center for Government told CNBC.
A new survey conducted by the group says employers struggle with a lack of skills among graduates of academic and vocational courses, particularly for medium and high-skilled jobs, such as teaching and medicine.
“The gap is tremendous. It’s a real tragedy,” Farrell said.
The shortage of workers in skilled jobs could reach 85 million by 2020, according to McKinsey report. The company defines youth as individuals between 15 and 29 years old.
The survey revealed that just 42 percent of employers believed young people were adequately skilled.
Farrell said the education to employment system was not working properly and the mismatch between education providers and industry requirements was rendering young people unemployable.
The McKinsey study conducted among 8,000 participants in nine countries revealed half of young people are not sure their postsecondary education improved their chances of finding a job, with the U.K. at a low of 40 percent and Saudi Arabia at 60 percent, though local Saudi graduates are guaranteed a public sector job in the country.
“This is quite low considering how much money is spent on education,” Farrell said.
She said the most successful were those employers who spent time with young people before they finished school, with some kind of on-the-job training or exposure to the kind of work they do.
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Comments (251)
brigott
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:02pmFirst, what is the incentive for those who are unemployed to even look for a job? They can get feebies so easily that there is no need to look for work. Unemployment insurance stretched to 99 months (nearly two years!).
And don’t forget that a loafer on government support can make it better financially than someone earning $60,000 per year.
Add to that the unability of most of today’s graduates to actually work, and we have the sad state of the economy that we do.
I teach school, and it is appalling to see how little time students are willing to invest in making themselves better and more employable.
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For my Liberty!
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:34pmDon’t forget the fact that MOST of these kids that go to college take USELESS classes and majors like “public relations” ….The market can only handle so many of those. But these kids think that just because they spent 4 years in college on a useless degree, they are more intelligent then everyone else—shows just how DUMB they are!
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seeker9
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:49pmOne would think they would realize that it’s not HOW MUCH is spent, but HOW it is spent.
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AUsername
Dec. 15, 2012 at 7:36pmmost degree programs seem to just have their students write papers or do tests and that is it. there are not very many like technology degrees that make you master and practice hard skills you will use in the future, in Tech clases you typically have like 10 projects to work and you create something while in other degrees its 4 tests or papers. If your program is just making you do tests and papers your in a bad program. Hands on learning is the best and technology degrees give you that while most do not and add internships and you can come out with hard skills for jobs or contracts.
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rckirby
Dec. 15, 2012 at 8:01pmIf you can’t even read by the 8th grade, yet your are pushed on (no child left behind)…..and then go to college….and get a faux degree in basket weaving or ‘liberal arts’…..here’s your sign.
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black9897
Dec. 15, 2012 at 8:32pmIt’s super hard to find a job. Most of the ones I see are either for a highly skilled specific position or a fast food job.
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Lotus503
Dec. 15, 2012 at 9:17pmWe have young people coming out of college with debts of anywhere between $100k to $400k, and have no practical training for the job fields that they are entering.
My questions are: Why does it cost that much to obtain a college education? Where is that money spent? And, isn’t it considered fraud to promise a career to someone, take their money and drive them into unimaginable debt, and graduate them into a job market without the proper tools to find work in the fields they were promised they would be qualified to work in once they completed their training?
We need to start looking at these so-called “institutions of higher learning”, and cutting off funding if they don’t deliver on what they promise.
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black9897
Dec. 15, 2012 at 9:40pm@LOTUS503
I was blessed to come out of college (class of 2012) debt free.
To answer your question of why, well I think it’s so we as a people will be forced into being part of the “machine.” The “machine” doesn’t need happy, healthy, debt free people. They need good little workers.
Not sure if you have heard of this guy, I would check out his videos he’s a very intelligent guy. He started this campaign called “non-jobs” which I think is the future and will be needed more. It’s a long video but it’s worth the watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf3R3yzEn94
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The-Monk
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YAHSHUARULES
Dec. 15, 2012 at 9:56pmThe agenda is not to educate, but to indoctrinate creating a people so dumbed down they not only want cradle to grave government care but they can’t exist without it – can’t critically think, they can’t serve on juries competently and can’t vote intelligently. Useful idiots for the state. Mindless little, robot zombies spouting the leftist line and not even understanding how they are being used being trained by cadres of intellectuals who want to drive this culture in a direction designed to destroy it:
This is the most comprehensive, best movie I have seen pulling all this together. Watch it. Share it.
It should be mandatory viewing for every person subjected to government funded education
https://vimeo.com/52009124
if that is not working try this: https://vimeo.com/16647512
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Zipit
Dec. 15, 2012 at 10:37pmYES, they are unemployable! And their names are, Desertrose, Encinom, WANGO/Pantloadian, Doraglasbeg, SENDTHEMETEORS, Trollmonger, etc. etc.!!!
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SendTheMeteors
Dec. 15, 2012 at 10:57pmHaving a college education is a waste. Am I right when I say that virtually nobody who posts here has a college degree? And you’re doing just fine financially and have no regrets about not getting a degree. Am I right or am I right? A college degree is a badge of shame and a suitable object of ridicule as far as I’m concerned.
Higher education only generates of bunch liberal idiots, people who think they are smart but have no common sense and have no skills, like fixing cars and stuff.
All those socialist countries in Europe tax like crazy and use that money to help their citizens get an advanced education. Citizens in those countries pay a steep price in liberty and money to ensure the country has a crop of highly educated people each year. Even China is pumping money into educating their brightest. That’s communism for ya.
We’ll be fine in the country in the long term. The richest, the top one or two percent, can educate their kids in the US, and that will certainly propel our country, The United States of America, into a lead position in technological development. Why we, The People, throw away our tax dollars educating common people is beyond me. We don’t need an educated populace, we simply need those “Makers” to educate their children in private institutions, and America will become the greatest technology leader the world has every known!
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TexasKnight
Dec. 15, 2012 at 11:21pmMy daughter is a college freshman. I told her as she started, I really do not care what major she is in, but it needs to be one with a future, or the payments will stop.
She is at a private, conservative liberal arts college.
Most of the unemployable college grads, I assume majored in philosphy/sciology or even worse ethnic studies. Show me a biology or chemistry major that can not find work.
Booming fields include and energy related engeneering, medical or technical education.
PS, the college is Geneva. One of the few out there I would recomend (liberty, grove city, hillman are the others).
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MIBUGNU2
Dec. 16, 2012 at 12:22amMost are dumber than a box of rocks !!
thanks to today’s educational system.
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1947
Dec. 16, 2012 at 12:27amYes
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Ray2447
Dec. 16, 2012 at 12:52amToday’s college and university students are not being taught to think critically in Liberal Studies courses like: Sociology, Women’s Studies, Poly Sci, Humanities, etc. Instead, inculcation of a sort of critical thinking is dispersed with a strongly Marxist slant, and questioning, or expressing an alternate opinion, is met with open hostility from those leftist propagandists who are being paid to spew their vile indoctrination from taxpayer funded teacher’s podiums as shown in “Marxist Valley College” at Youtube. http://tinyurl.com/44btb
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HOOT_OWL
Dec. 16, 2012 at 2:36amSENDTHEMETEORS
Well golly gee Thank-ya kindly oh enlightened one..!
I’m going out tomorrow and pull all my young’ns college fund out
of the bank and buy lottery tickets. YEE-HAW…!!
What a commie POS YOU ARE.!.
Ragnars Repos
Dec. 16, 2012 at 2:38amI know you Conservatives don’t believe it, but this is just another symptom of collectivist rot.
Hatred of the good for being good (Envy, or that which drives the left.), has many unintended consequences.
What you’re witnessing is the opposite of evolution. We’re going backwards. The country is in fact falling.
I know it’s falling because the champions of mediocrity (leftists) are at the helm. The only way betas find themselves at the helm is when good people die-off, or allow them to be there.
As a young man, I feared the loss of the WWII generation. The following generation frightened me even then. Now I know why.
We’re in trouble deep, Americans.
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Black Horse
Dec. 16, 2012 at 3:47amSENDTHEMETEORS
I have a bachelors degree and it took me from an operator of semiconductor manufacturing machines to an engineer that oversees maintaining, repairing and optimization of them and an immediate increase in salary of 300%. I got it while I worked full time. So, thanks for letting us know you’re a useless bum with no formal education, no future and no life. Oh, and MY student loans are repaid. By me.
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antiprogressive
Dec. 16, 2012 at 4:55amWhy WOULD today’s employers hire these kids?
Considering what they spew out of their mouths, I wouldn’t want them “working” for me.
The new hires where I work typically last 1-2 days before quitting so they can get on the government dole.
Those that stick around have a hard time handling the work load since it requires TWO hands.
And they keep ONE on the pants to hold them up.
Granted, these aren’t COLLEGE kids but the mentality is still similar.
‘What’s in it for ME?’ is a standard phrase if you ask anything extra of them.
As if a paycheck isn’t enough…
On the flip side, my neice got a 2 year degree in Automotive Technology straight out of home schooling and was employed at Toyota before she graduated.
Continuing on with ASE classes while she works, she now makes more than her teamleader – about 18 bucks an hour – as he has NOT attended any additional training classes.
She has bought her own house in a nice neighborhood and aims to move up soon.
My very conservative – but not rich – family had a lot to do with keeping her focused.
She is now 20.
THAT will get a person a job and a future.
Not parents that ignore their children while sending them to liberal arts loving colleges.
And if kids haven’t figured out that anything in the “medical” field is a good idea, they aren’t thinking.
Keep in mind, 7 out of 10 people in the medical field never see patients.
They just push paper.
Perhaps the reason medical costs are still so high???
but O
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December15
Dec. 16, 2012 at 6:54amThe U.S. graduates have the lowest math and science scores of industrialized nations around the world but the highest self-esteems, so we have that going for us.
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term limits for congress
Dec. 16, 2012 at 10:08amMy advice to the younger generations: learn to read/write English, don’t punch holes in your ears/nose/face, don’t tatoo you ears/nose/face, don’t breed until you’re married, don’t get married until you’re employeed and 25. You will be employable.
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Livia
Dec. 16, 2012 at 10:58amWhen these young people graduate from high school with limited skills, then go on to college, and take courses that aren’t worth a hill of beans as far as getting a job, what do they expect? If you can’t read simple instructions and worse yet, walk into an interview expecting a huge amount of money, they are going to be laughed out of the building. I know kids in my area that have no idea how many inches there are in a foot! I don’t have a college education, but IF I wasn’t disabled, I could go out and find a job today.
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SendTheMeteors
Dec. 16, 2012 at 11:01amBlack Horse, I think you must have missed class the day your freshman English teacher discussed satire.
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Southerner01
Dec. 16, 2012 at 12:06pmA lot of the problem stems from poor choice of majors. Anyone who borrows money to go to college, then majors in art history, philosophy, liberal arts, exercise science, philosophy or most majors that end in “studies” (Feminist, American, African, Etc.) among others. Those do not provide a useful skillset. Those who major in Computer Science, Accounting, Engineering and a bunch of other professional and technical areas are very employable and do quite well. The value of a college degree is what you can do with it. The navel gazing majors are worthless.
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Mil-Dot
Dec. 16, 2012 at 12:43pmCheck out SendMeteors. She was satirizing her commie ass off and a dude took the bait. Now that’s funny!
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Bluebonnet
Dec. 16, 2012 at 1:14pmOK MONK, I wrote it down and will watch. Meanwhile, kids going to college need to study things that will help them find a job. My grandson researched in his field and got a job, good pay, a raise in 6 months and he’s happy..
Be prepared, that perhaps, you might not get the job you want in this economy, but you can find something in a grocery store ($12-16 per hr.) to start and have a little money to maintain, or many other things that pay enough to get by until times get better……Don’t be a wimp and draw from the gov’t when you most likely are able bodied.. In any field, you often have to start at bottom & work up.
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EdgeOfSanity
Dec. 16, 2012 at 1:36pmThese graduates are also of the “entitlement” thinking. They do not want to start at the bottom and prove their worth and get promoted on their merit. Employees cost at least 25% of their wages in taxes and required benefits and it is only getting worse. And it is almost impossible to get rid of bad employees, so why should we bother?
The government is getting rid of “internships” as fast as they can so employers can’t screen the unacceptable prospects (who will impact their unemployment rates, or sue them for terminating them).
I am a college graduate (paid myself as I studied over 6 years), worked as an intern, was promoted and now have my own business.
Only one of my kids chose to go to college and is the only liberal in the family thanks to that education in the required liberal arts classes. The technical ones were just fine.
Maybe the technical and specialized schools are the best . . . and get rid of the Progressive liberal arts classes and save the money.
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turkey13
Dec. 16, 2012 at 4:43pmIn 2005 GM closed the plant in Oklahoma City and moved those jobs to Mexico. They still own the huge plant and amost 90 ex-union stewars still show up each morning from 7.00 AM to 3.30pm each day while all the workers were laid off. GM is building a new plant in CHINA. GE moved most of their factories to China and then sc_rewed the IRS out of almost 2 Billion in Taxes in 2011. All these college kids run out and buy the latest I-phone made in China and wander why there are no jobs. Of course these college kids need to move to Texas or Oklahoma where all the companys are moving just to stay in business. The stock holders don’t want to see all the profits go to taxes in NY, CT, NJ- ETC.
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Capitalist Mama
Dec. 16, 2012 at 5:14pmAs an employer with at least two open positions for over a year, I can emphatically say “Yes, college graduates simultaneously know too few billable skills and ask for too high a salary!” Key words: BILLABLE and HIGH SALARY. If they wanted half that, I would take them and teach them the business.
I am still getting students who quote mid-90′s entry level salaries to me. I am in the business.
*I own a software consulting firm. Everyone I know who owns and all my clients are looking to hire if they can find qualified people!
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Git-R-Done
Dec. 16, 2012 at 8:15pmSendthemeteors – Is that why your beloved European countries have a higher percentage of people in the labor force working for the government and higher unemployment rates in most of those countries? Nobody owes you losers a “free” university education. And employers look for work experience more than a college degree. That’s why you leftists are so isolated from the real world.
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joylene2000
Dec. 16, 2012 at 8:17pmMost kids coming out of college want to start out as a CEO with a 6 figure income. They don’t want to pay their dues and start at the bottom like the majority of people do. Wake up and smell the coffee folks!
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Centurian
Dec. 16, 2012 at 10:21pmSENDTHEMETEORS:
Let me clarify a few things.
You stated:
“Having a college education is a waste. Am I right when I say that virtually nobody who posts here has a college degree? And you’re doing just fine financially and have no regrets about not getting a degree. Am I right or am I right? A college degree is a badge of shame and a suitable object of ridicule as far as I’m concerned.”
As someone who happens to be an Adjunct Professor, I would wholeheartedly disagree with this entire statement. I hold three degrees (electrical engineering, operating systems languages, and a Masters in Business Administration). Not once have I had any regrets in earning these degrees. But you may want to note what the degrees were in. All three are useful areas of study.
You stated:
“Higher education only generates of bunch liberal idiots, people who think they are smart but have no common sense and have no skills, like fixing cars and stuff.”
Fixing cars? I fail to see how that corresponds to higher education. If someone wishes to become an auto mechanic, there are numerous certification programs to get training in that field.
Also note: ‘Liberal idiots’ are mass produced from liberal colleges and universities. Want conservative, logically driven college grads? Send them to conservative, business colleges and universities (yes, they do exist).
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Boomchucker
Dec. 16, 2012 at 10:39pmI think that so much of it has to do with the area of study selected. My son majored in Electronics Engineering. He started a paid internship 2 days after he graduated and was hired as a salaried engineer starting at $52K per year after three months. Six months after that he got a 15% raise. My other son is 1 1/2 years from graduating with a degree in Computer Science with a Computer Engineering minor and he is already working part-time at $15 per hour. The company can hardly wait until he graduates and is available full-time. The jobs are there, kids just have to go into marketable degree programs.
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DissenterKnight
Dec. 17, 2012 at 11:35amIn my denomination the governing body determined some time ago that the path to ordination ran through a graduate degree in Divinities; no graduate degree, no ordination. Later, faced with the realities of the cost of graduate school, the same governing body determined that there had to be a minimum salary for an ordained minister called to serve a congregation; this to cover the costs of student loans, don’t you know. Did I mention that the same governing body that made these choices is primarily composed of ordained ministers serving within the denomination?
Sound familiar?
Well, try this. Now we’ve reached a point where we have both empty pulpits and unemployed ministers. Why? A congregation needs minimum size –critical mass, if you will- to know that it’s giving can support a given salary level. So, you have small churches without trained leadership and trained leaders banned from assuming those roles by men and women seeking to protect their own best interests.
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progressiveslayer
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:56pmLiberal arts degrees are worthless and a lot of colleges produce pin head libs who don’t have any skills that employers would want. Add that to the worst economy since our first depression and you have a recipe for disaster.
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:05pmSlayer – You always have a way of putting things in a Readers’ Digest version and not a USAToday’s.
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skippy6
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:12pmYep!!! It’s the Everyone gets a trophy entitlement generation……Thanks to the new progressive era….Most of them are clueless..A lot of them post on this site kissing the marxist in chiefs arss…….
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progressiveslayer
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:18pmDADROCKED Thanks for the compliment brother! I do my best to make my views known.
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BODYBAG
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:28pm@PROGRESSIVESLAYER
Posted on December 15, 2012 at 4:56pm
Liberal arts degrees are worthless
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I’ll back you on all but this part. Not always the case. I have one of these
from a fairly exclusive school.
But I worked my tail off and challenged both myself and my professors.
By the final year nearly every Professor hated me —- Im talking open contempt.
I remember once in a hallway a prof yelling at me “just who do you think you are
and WTF do you think you’re doing?” My response: “Im doing what I have been
trained to do —- THINK for myself” I flipped her the bird and she went into a rage.
Liberal educators DO NOT like students who think independently and challenge them.
I used their system to learn to out-think them. You have to know your enemy in
order to defeat them.
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conservative510
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:43pmSpoiled, social media junkie, illiterate, community college grads with no skills or motivation, with $50K in school loans. Isn’t America’s education system great?! This is what happens when we reward mediocrity. Thank you liberals. Thank you Dept. of Education.
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RJJinGadsden
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:55pmBODYBAG, Dang, I’m sitting here trying not to spit chunks of a Pop Tart while I am laughing so hard. Good for you, but some of those clowns can convince other instructors/professors screw with your other grades. Now all that we need are for some of our younger crowd to wake up and do the same thing.
Oh yeah, not to worry, the dog is under me now collecting the lost crumbs.
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Shenandoahvalleyminuteman
Dec. 15, 2012 at 6:02pmThese kids are to lazy to work. They wanna gravy job. Start as a floor sweeper and if your good you can make management in 5 years. Happens all the time. Get a hair cut and Getta real job!! ;-)
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BODYBAG
Dec. 15, 2012 at 6:12pm@CONSERVATIVE510
Posted on December 15, 2012 at 5:43pm
Thank you Dept. of Education.
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Should be eliminated IMMEDIATELY.
Along with Agriculture, Energy, Commerce, HUD, EPA, etc.
Cut the head off the snake.
No worries though. We’re going off the cliff like The Communist Boy-King has wanted all along.
Its only a matter of time until FEDZILLA can no longer support its own weight.
Personally Id like to see all the MAKERS give the FED the finger. As a business owner Im ready
to do exactly that. Lets see how long they can keep things afloat without us.
The parasites who lay back and suck the system wont last a month.
We dont owe anyone an ObamaPhone. Our tax dollars should NOT be used in this manner.
In the era of internet technology and cell phones there is NO EXCUSE for not having an income
of some kind. We shouldnt be propping up people for 3 YEARS on unemployment.
50 MILLION PEOPLE on Food Stamps is RIDICULOUS
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BODYBAG
Dec. 15, 2012 at 6:23pmJJINGADSDEN
Posted on December 15, 2012 at 5:55pm
but some of those clowns can convince other instructors/professors screw with your other grades.
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Oh yes, I had one professor who did everything possible and gave me a “C” just for spite.
He couldnt legitimately flunk me due to the sheer volume and quality of work I did. I literally
slept at school on the floor with a coffee maker and a pillow.
He was gay and was not at all “tolerant” of my conservative viewpoints.
Funny thing was I didnt care one iota about his sexual orientation — he just didnt like the
fact that my existence there threatened his perfect little liberal world.
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progressiveslayer
Dec. 15, 2012 at 6:40pmBAG The flipping off of the lib professor nut job is priceless,I commend you and wish I could’ve seen her face.
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AUsername
Dec. 15, 2012 at 7:37pmany degree that makes you do tests and papers only is a worthless degree and program.
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BODYBAG
Dec. 15, 2012 at 7:50pm@PROGRESSIVESLAYER
Posted on December 15, 2012 at 6:40pm
BAG The flipping off of the lib professor nut job is priceless,I commend you and wish I could’ve seen her face.
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LOL. I wont ever forget it.
I just heard we’re getting Herman Munster for Secretary Of State
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Q-sRdV7SY
We’re F’ing screwed
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yiska8
Dec. 15, 2012 at 8:12pm@bodybag
Nicely done. Same here. Try being a Spanish surnamed American woman from South Texas who loves Reagan and capitalism. Critical thinking skills kept me out of trouble growing up and peer pressure rarely effected me in a very tough high school in San Antonio, so by the time I got to college they couldn’t get me to drink the kool-aid and they couldn’t take me from an A to a D because I challenged them, but they tried. Libs just love to hear themselves speak and when challenged with FACTS or their methodology questioned, the fake tolerance lifts like the dress off one of Bill Clinton’s *hores. Still, breaking a lib’s argument is so much FUN. You just got to keep stingind em’!!! Again, nicely done. Good for you.
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BODYBAG
Dec. 15, 2012 at 8:31pm@YISKA8
Posted on December 15, 2012 at 8:12pm
@bodybag
Nicely done. Same here. Try being a Spanish surnamed American woman from South Texas who loves Reagan and capitalism.
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I commend you too. Nice job.
Good grief. If your guy doesnt appreciate you —- drop him. You have PLENTY of options. ;)
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MDECKER
Dec. 15, 2012 at 9:01pmThere are more kids’ futures destroyed by liberal academia than there is by guns. I think we should petition the White House to push for legislation to ban university professors.
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dwf1
Dec. 16, 2012 at 9:14amPS,
Lack of skills and true education is much deeper than under-grads and grads. Most of today’s professors are simple extension of theories taught by their mentors. Professors general are very good at one thing, life is not one of them. Also comprehend for the most part they are professional students whom have little experience outside the academic world. Does this bring someone of power to mind? Today’s society is quickly becoming less about thinking and more about doing. SAD!
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Pantloadian
Dec. 16, 2012 at 2:38pmBUDDY BAG . . .Oh Buddy Bag, your unbridled machismo makes me swoon. If only more independent thinkers like you had your courage. Golly wonkers, what a big bag you must have to haul around those massive nads of yours. I’ll bet that little lady professor thought twice about asking you any more questions. And given the volume and quality of your work, a grade of C was obviously a political statement aimed at destroying the future of America.
Oh, Buddy my Buddy . . . . Why can’t more of us and them be like you? And I mean JUST like you. To be so steadfast in your principles, so dedicated to moral consistency. They should make a T-shirt with your face on it for everyone in America to honor.
So tell me, what have you done with this hifautin degree and deathless work ethic? Let me guess, you went on to become a surgeon, or maybe a CFO in one of our free enterprise monoliths. A judge perhaps, looking out for the Constitution. Tell us, oh mighty bag of wind. take us to the mountain top with you. Show us the “full flush” commode in your trailer of solitude.
What do you do to contribute to the great American experience?
In other words, tell us again who’s to blame for you not having a job.
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Git-R-Done
Dec. 16, 2012 at 8:18pmPantiesinabunch – Funny how you Marxists want us to be responsible for the mess that you Marxists made yet you don’t have be responsible for your own messes. Excuse me if the rest of us in society shouldn’t be forced to take care of losers like you.
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yiska8
Dec. 16, 2012 at 10:23pm@Bodybag
Still looking for the ONE, but it turns out too many single guys are of the opinion of @pantsload and really, that would be like dating another woman. Ha!
“Liberalism is a mental disorder.” – Dr. Michael Savage
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mlimberg
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:40pmWhen in college, you actually have to open and read the books and not use them as coasters.
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DougHuffman
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:48pmBooks are too expensive, e-books are all the rage. Education is worth only the effort invested.
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jeceil
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:07pmI graduated in 2010. I struggled in college. I’m a hands on learner, which isn’t good when schools are designed to shove you in a lecture hall for 90 minutes and expect you to spit back out whatever information they throw at you. I was excited to go to college because I thought it was a place where they would teach me to think. Memorization is not thinking. I was so happy to get into applied courses my junior year since they were the only thing that got me out with a decent GPA. We are no longer taught to think!! It’s more like an exercise at who can cheat the best and too bad I’I just don’t think it’s right. I am one of those ‘unfortunate’ college students who couldn’t find a job in this over-saturated market. I started a business and made one, but I wasn’t even Wal-mart material when I graduated! So, yes, I think that college graduates are grossly unprepared and we would be much better off returning to apprentice-based learning.
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DAS_MOOCH
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:21pmthe US military is hiring for their newly formed regiment, the “Fighting 69th”…their mottto is “leave no buddy’s behind”.
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Dano.50
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:34pmDas_Mooch
Using “buddy’s behind” were you making subtle jest?
The apostrophe in “buddy’s” makes it possessive.
Leaving no friends behind you would have to pluralize buddy to buddies, as in “Leave no buddies behind.”
Leaving no “buddy’s” behind implies a reluctance to abandons certain sexual preferences, especially when combined with “69th.”
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BODYBAG
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:40pm@JECEIL
Posted on December 15, 2012 at 5:07pm
I was excited to go to college because I thought it was a place where they would teach me to think. Memorization is not thinking.
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Excellent post. You are right on the money.
Most kids nowadays go to school for the WRONG REASON.
The PURPOSE of University is SUPPOSED to be to learn HOW TO THINK.
Most go to somehow muddle through half-drunk believing high-paying employers
will fall over themselves to hire them with their newly printed degrees. They studied
some field they dont really care about just for the money and only halfway applied
themselves because they have NO PASSION for the subject matter.
If you go to college for the purpose of LEARNING HOW TO THINK and actually apply
yourself and work hard —— when you get out you can do virtually ANYTHING. And
any SMART employer will hire you.
People who are sharp, think on their feet, and have the ability to figure things out are
worth their weight in GOLD. I’ll hire them all day long.
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DougHuffman
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:40pm@JECEIL – Phui! What do you think about and with what syllogism but tools and principles memorized. The multiplication tables are the epitome. All of logic is transformation just as multiplication is scaling of two numbers.
I directed reactor plant testing and operation and my head is still full of memorized stuff and mnemonic aids almost twenty years into retirement.
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skimmer57
Dec. 15, 2012 at 7:06pmDughoffman– You seem like a true patriot and a tough guy. You are a gun toting, cowboy hat wearing,red white and blue American. I bet you hate big government and wouldn’t think of taking a dime from them.Yup you wouldn’t think of taking medicare or that socialist social security check. You are a man of principles.Sorry I just threw up in my mouth a little.
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Git-R-Done
Dec. 15, 2012 at 9:33pmSkimmer57 – Since when have you Marxists ever had any principles? At least Doug actually paid into Medicare and Social Security unlike you Marxist bums who demand that the government care of losers like you from cradle to grave. Excuse me if I don’t feel sorry for bums like you.
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Chromo200
Dec. 15, 2012 at 10:24pmSKIMMER57 If I had a choice I would not contribute to the SS and Medicare and use the money and get a better return. Unfortunately one does not have a choice, money is taken out if you like it or not.
I read a lot of comments on making people who take social security and medicare feel guilty. BS .. when my time comes I will not feel guilty one bit. I was forced to contribute and so it is my money. Oh yes I will get more than I contributed, but then I see my taxes wasted to no end and the liberals and RINOs owe us a lot.
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skimmer57
Dec. 16, 2012 at 9:37amGit-r-done—-You sound a little frustrated with your job. Feel free to send me your resume and I’ll see what I can do. I’ve got plenty of yard work, some fence repair and lots of autos to be wash and waxed.I believe I may have meant you one time. I was the guy who wanted a large French fry with my meal and you were kind enough to run it out to my car!
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Git-R-Done
Dec. 16, 2012 at 8:20pmSkimmer57 – I already have a job that pays me better than anything you Marxists could ever offer. And I doubt that you even have any job offerings to begin with since you’re just a poor bum.
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goahead.makemyday
Dec. 17, 2012 at 9:45amJECEIL
I graduated in 2010. I struggled in college. I’m a hands on learner, which isn’t good when schools are designed to shove you in a lecture hall for 90 minutes and expect you to spit back out whatever information they throw at you.
Same for me but I couldn’t take it along with no money to pay for it. I had to drop out of college but I’ve registered for the summer courses at a tech school and will do the EMT course there. 4 months with no English or math courses and having hands on courses and I’ll have my EMT certification.
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RaydocX
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:36pmwhen you teach to the lowest common deniminator, your graduates cannot excel.
when you insist that ‘anyone’ can go to college, you dillute the applicant pool.
when you tell students they cannot fail, you steal initiative from them, and welcome mediocrity.
even in an increasingly socialized nation, that attitude does not work in the real world… either companies choose more motivated and educated individuals, or the politics of the cult of personality lead to unfair hiring practices.
And that’s BEFORE the tax changes kick in and squash growth.
I still believe education is invaluable, but random ‘women’s studies’ or ‘ancient languages’ degrees have no or extremely limited application once school is over. Today’s students risk incurring crippling debt for dabblign in passtimes that won’t pay the rent when they have graduated.
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DougHuffman
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:50pmYou fall into the trite trap with “degrees”. They are evidence of credentialism and authoritarianism.
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Pantloadian
Dec. 16, 2012 at 6:10pmHUFFINGMEN . .. Spent a little to much time a little too close to the rods, I see.
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Duey2000
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:32pmThat’s because there is a difference between education and experience. I work for a hotel. I want to hire somebody with hotel experience. If you have a business degree you are not worth hiring compared to somebody that worked at the front desk of a hotel for the last four years. It’s the same in most industries.
Here in Omaha there was a news report about how all of these people with teaching degrees can’t find jobs. But when they interviewed graduates, none of them had student taught, none of them were willing to move, and all of them expected to just be able to walk into whatever school they wanted to and get the salary that they think they deserved.
Four years or more of school and they aren’t all that much smarter…
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decendentof56
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:22pmGood point! Experience is very important.
I saw this in the late 60′s when at the “old” Ma Bell in NJ. Starting around 1966, the phone co. started to hire college grad’s into 2nd-level management positions(your foreman being 1st level. My first foreman had to work for a guy who actually didn’t know which direction to turn a brace and bit.
We were on strike in the spring of 1968, and “the grad” was working with my boss installing a phone line in an adjacent room when he called for my boss to “come here.” He said he couldn’t get the hand drill to make a hole through the wall. My boss looke, and “the grad” was turning the hand drill counter-clockwise.
He was forever after called “lefty.” That’s when the level of phone service started to go down.
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Tri-ox
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:26pmGraduates are only employable when there are actual jobs – - – obama has focused for four years on destroying jobs and making sure that graduates, and anyone else looking for a job, will NOT be able to find one. As obama knows all too well, unemployed freeloaders are much more likely to vote for the person who offers them the most FREE stuff, and the easiest, laziest life.
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DougHuffman
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:47pmMcJobs are to self-esteem as their burgers are to sustenance.
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DougHuffman
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:18pmYes. Read Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt’s The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America.
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/MomsPDFs/DDDoA.sml.pdf
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0966707117/ref=sc_pgp__m_A150OCLKQ7VU7P_1?ie=UTF8&m=A150OCLKQ7VU7P&n=&s=&v=glance
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:59pmI do a lot of hiring…most “young kids” have a poor work ethic, no respect, no responsibility, dress and act during interviews like any of a dozen stereotype fads you see on the sewer called TV.
Give me an older and/or retired person any day of the week.
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:07pmThe_Almighty_Creestof – “I do a lot of hiring…most “young kids” have a poor work ethic, no respect, no responsibility…” “Give me an older and/or retired person any day of the week.”
Then where do I send my resume to? I never belived in age discrimination but I am now beginning to wonder. Here in Northern VA, most applications are only online. I don’t overkill on my experiences but it is quite evident that I’m not remotely close to being 35yrs old anymore. Only mid-50s with a solid track record…
So, once again I ask you The_Almighty_Creestof, where do you want my resume sent to?
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Crazy-Horse
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:21pm@The_Almighty_Creestof
What City are you in or near?
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:26pmI manage for Walgreens drug stores. We also have our application process online (solely) and an in-store, computerized skills assessment test must be completed before interviews are scheduled. Walgreens is getting ready in March of 2013 to reduce the pay of over 15,000 managers in their stores by 25% or more by changing their job titles and claiming they won’t be given management tasks anymore…which is a lie and a loophole. Many of these people will be leaving at that time (myself included) because after 15 years or so we are going from $20.00 an hour to $14.00 and are being told that is the new CAP. This is on top of losing $5,000 a year already when they took us from 44 hours a week to 40…and now they are telling us in 2014 we will lose all of our vacation time and instead will earn vacation/sick days in increments based upon hours worked during the current year in question.
Meanwhile, they borrowed and invested 4 BILLION dollars into a european drugchain called “Boots” which does not even give them a controlling interest…though they do have an option to invest another 9 billion and buy the company outright in the future.
Bottom line? Get your applications in if you wish to replace those of us leaving in a couple months.
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:37pmThe_Almighty_Creestof – Might these ‘cutbacks’ have anything to do, in conjuction of, the upcoming decline in hours due to the Unaffordable HealthCare Act?
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:42pmI should point out, that I myself, am 53.
Though $14.00 an hour is nothing to sneeze at these days, after 37 years of paid employment where I’ve lived well within my means and have been able to set aside just under a 1/2 million in savings for retirement…this new rate (that is the cap) would = $29,100 a year ($5,000 a year less than I started at with them 15 years ago) and would cause me to have a negative cash flow of between 200-400 every month.
I believe with my experience I can start with another company for a similar amount…but it won’t be the cap…and it won’t be with a company who lives by Rahm Emanuels policy of “Never let a good crisis go to waste.”
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:56pmDadrocked~
No, they have to do with the country’s economic woes justifying these changes…on paper. In reality, Walgreens is doing very well…and would be doing extremely well if the top brass would be shown the door.
The top guy OK’d a 27% pay increase for the 2nd guy.
The 2nd guy OK’d a 10 million dollar bonus for the top guy.
They chose to invest BILLIONS over seas rather than in America…which they borrowed.
They decided to do something called CCR in all stores which caused massive payroll expenditures and a huge loss of profit as they clearanced out 25% of the merchandise we carried. All to lower the profiles in the store and focus on the actual “best sellers”…sounds good doesn’t it? That is until you realize that they make 60% of their profit from bribes they collect from manufacturers by charging them for shelf space if they want their items in our stores…which the buyers went right back to once CCR was over an the profit lost…so we are once more inflating inventories with future dead product…all for the sake of a quick cash influx.
They told our biggest 3rd party insurer (ESI = 30-40% of scripts) to shove it and claimed they would stick by their guns until they offered a better contract…then — after we lost 100′s of 1000′s of long term customers to our competition, they re-signed…but the customers have NOT returned.
Now they are doing the “Wellness Experience” remodels which cost mega bucks.
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:02pmThe_Almighty_Creestof – Point made, at 56 I’m feeling same effects. Never, never have I been out of work this long… Two months max, by choice, but then I had moved here (Fairfax VA) from Chicago to get married for the first time.
Now almost eight months have passed…
♫ That’s life – As funny as it may seem – Some people get their kicks stomping on my dream – But I don’t let it, let it get me down’ – Cause this fine old world, it keeps spinnin’ around ♪♪
♫ I’ve been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate, a poet, a pawn and a king – I’ve been up and down and over and out and I know one thing – Each time I find myself flat on my face – I pick myself up and get back in the race ♪ ♪
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:23pmThe_Almighty_Creestof – Last position was as a finace guy in telecom. My position was cash management –
Was with an 8(a), small business/minority owned – Mostly government contract –
My job was to control incoming cash and expenditures – Projects ALWAYS came in under budget because I was a blue collar minded guy in a white collar world –
When contracts ended, they were over the ‘small business’ qualification by $1/2M – Wasn’t allowed to have the contracts.
They saw the writing on the walls but were short teming their success – From 1,800 employs, cut 1200 in less than a month –
Kept me but on a part time basis… Eventually not as much cash to manage and had to let me go to.
I understand your frustration…
Good luck to you and may God Bless Us All !
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sacwoodpusher
Dec. 15, 2012 at 6:42pmAll is not lost. i just met a young kid who is 22 years old. I found him. He built a product and put it up for sale on ebay. I called him up, asked if I could get him to build product for me, but with a few design changes. This kid graduates in two weeks. He doesn’t realize it yet, but I can sell enough of his product to make him comfortable, if not rich.
A degree is a start, but my brother told me that lots of engineers think that they are done learning after college. He and I have news for you…..a degree is a start. Go to college, and get good grades, but do it taking at least 16 units.Grades and performamce under high work load are indicators of future success, as is attitude. In 40 years of business, I have never fixed an attitude.
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kaydeebeau
Dec. 16, 2012 at 8:10am@ Creestof – I work for WAG also in Tennessee – nice to know there are fellow thinkers in the company – though they seem few and far between
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Pantloadian
Dec. 16, 2012 at 4:47pmAh yes – the vaunted corporate benefactors. Our job creators! Yessirree they’re looking out for you. Hey, did you hear the latest on the Hostess execs and they’re handling of their employees’ pensions? It’s a real hoot. Meanwhile those bastardly unions are getting shoved aside, thank god. No more and more companies will be able to do exactly what Walgreens is doing – all you have to do is pick a hole.
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antann
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:07pmThe_Almighty_Creestof, Walgreens contracted with Convergys a couple of years ago to do most of their prescription fills/refills and phone calls. Convergys pays $10 an hour to work with Central Fill, local Walgreens pharmacies, and the physicians. They would see $14 an hour as high compared to what they are paying the call center. Once the older generation that do not like the new automated way of filling prescriptions has passed there will not be much going on in the brick and mortar pharmacy to require higher wage employees.
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Crazy-Horse
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:54pmNew Study?
http://www.statista.com/statistics/224069/number-of-young-unemployed-people-worldwide/
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OlefromMN
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:50pm“Are Today’s Graduates Unemployable?”
For the most part, YES.
We have allowed many generations to be “educated” by progressive institutions and they are coming out with ZERO ability to comprehend reality. Moms and Dads of the nation are equally misinformed. It’s a long road back to sanity.
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Ray2447
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:03pmThe leftist educational system is the biggest institutional problem in America today. Professors think it’s their job to spew Marxist propaganda from their teacher’s podiums as shown in “Marxist Valley College” at Youtube. http://tinyurl.com/44btbq8 Instead, they should be teaching relevant, balanced information pertaining to their subjects.
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crackerone
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:42pmBarney Frank and his husband, are hiring interns for a chance at a permanent job as cabanna boy in their new home. Unfortunately the job in under the table, so no healthcare, but plenty of friends with benifits, benifits.
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crackerone
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:18pmHopefully, this rear entry-level postion will be given to a college graduate. Most are naive and dumb as a box of rocks. The first Cabanna boy they hired, was the lawn guy, Emmanuel. He pilfered, most anything of value from the home.
Just bring a bathing cap and towel for first interview.
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saranda
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:22pmMommy let you use the computer today? Or are you just one of those with feelings of inadequacy over your own sexuality or lack thereof?
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crackerone
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:47pmSorry Sandra. Females need not apply. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if you launched a discrimination lawsuit.
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skimmer57
Dec. 15, 2012 at 8:46pm*******– The doctor that gave you that frontal labodamy must not have graduated!
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Git-R-Done
Dec. 15, 2012 at 9:37pmSkimmer57 – Don’t be upset that your employer doesn’t give a crap about your fancy college degree and actually wants to see work experience and skills.
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kimosd1
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:40pmAs a business owner I had an applicant for summer work. His application was filled with spelling, grammar, and punctuation errors. The penmanship was nearly illegible. His current occupation… teacher. These kids coming into the work force are not prepared. We need to go back to the basics in teaching, reading (books), writing, math, spelling, history. Give them a solid foundation and get the technical high schools going again to teach the next generation of skilled workers. We have been fooled to believe that a college degree is the only way to go only cheapens the degree when “everybody” has one and lowers the standards. All the while loading the student down with loans. There has got to be a better way.
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:00pmI agree Kimos – As stated below, ‘So much is put on the white collar job and mandatory college to get anywhere. With some regional exceptions, try even to find a community college offering any trade classes/courses.
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Shasta
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:05pmIt seems like our schools have other priorities besides teaching these days. Indoctrination comes to mind. But I guess that is teaching of a sort.
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:37pmShasta – “Indoctrination comes to mind.”
At times, I feel that some of today’s teachers are NOT indoctinating anybody. This is the second, maybe third, generation since it began.
I believe that today’s teachers themselves, have no idea at all that, they have already been indoctinated.
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TheWhiteFalcon
Dec. 15, 2012 at 8:52pmWhile my penmanship isn’t perfect (I try), I do agree with the other points. Not to mention most of today’s kids are nearly illiterate. I see college-age kids who can’t read simple paragraphs without mispronouncing something or stopping because they don’t know a simple word.
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repairsea
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:35pmLook who they voted in for president. It’s the blind leading the blind. Dope smoking red diaper doper babies who are about to be taxed out of their inheritance and trust fund money.
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qualityrkc
Dec. 16, 2012 at 4:57pmYes, if we were smart we would have voted for a financier with dancing horses and swiss bank accounts. Stupid us…This entire comments page is filled with old bitter people who regret never having the opportunity or ability to go to college. The talking points I see repeated about college indoctorination couldn’t be further from the truth. There is nothing wrong with my generation. The issue is the older generation that destroyed the economy and allowed globalization to defeat the american workforce. Why would an employer want to hire an american when they can hire a chinese kid who works for 15 cents an hour. YOUR GENERATION MADE THAT HAPPEN, not ours! And you have some nerve to blame our problems on our IQ level. There are no jobs for us to start and support families! You left this country worse for us then when you received it! Want to blame someone for Americans decline?? Blame the people who have been running us policy for the past 40 years instead of blaming the people who were in diapers when our country was sold to the lowest bidder. Look at this countries problems we are facing now, you blame young people for that! You should wake up and look in the mirror if you want someone to blame!
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DZ-015
Dec. 16, 2012 at 6:53pmRepairsea: Are you talking about Pantloadian there? If so, I don’t think he has a trust fund.
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goahead.makemyday
Dec. 17, 2012 at 10:05amThis entire comments page is filled with old bitter people who regret never having the opportunity or ability to go to college. The talking points I see repeated about college indoctorination couldn’t be further from the truth. There is nothing wrong with my generation.
I didn’t have the ability to go to a university or even a community college, I’m 21. There is a whole heck of a lot of things wrong with our generation, yes they were started by the previous generation but continued by ours. Our generation for the most part just coasts along never trying at anything, when somebody does good and makes a good bit of money guess who comes out of the wood works looking for their long forgotten “friend.” Yes people are taught this in schools but it is up to the individual to make the decisions not the teachers. I made a choice to actually think critically many of our generation would rather light up a joint than actually think.
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HelloWorld
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:35pmOh gee- I didn’t know they were talking about medicine too. That is absolutely hilarious. It used to take 7 years of residency to be a subspecialist. Now, they have decided these guys don’t need to be qualified on General Surgery. Just three years should do it. Well need I say more? Let’s not forget that they don’t want to work more than 40 hours a week. They don’t want to be abused. I suggest if you have one of these physicians you get sick during that 40 hour time frame.
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:34pm“Are Today’s Graduates Unemployable?”
And so are yesterday and yester-years unemployable… It’s the economy stupid…
While looking for work, I know that it is a buyer’s market…
Here in the D.C. area, a few years back, companies wanted a bachelors are now wanting a masters…
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AllLost
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:58pmI think you missed the point. There are jobs available at entry level, but finding young adults who can perform the 3R’s is next to impossible.
If you want to quantify the situation examine the number of students incapable of entry level college work thereby needing to attend several semesters of remedial classes. The percentages are disturbing.
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:20pmAllLost – “I think you missed the point.”
No the point is not lost… Here in Fairfax County (VA), I have lived with and see the mindset as written on a daily basis. A place where a kid turns 16 and is handed the keys to a year or two old car.
I give the keys to my daughter to a ’92 Tercel and have no problem with it. I’m ‘old school’!
Daughter is now 20, finishing her sophomore year. I have seen and participated everyday for the past eleven years. I sat down every evening for at least an hour, 7 days a week with her, only discussing homework or school life.
Other posters here know that I could go on and on… Again sir, ‘I’m Old School’.
But maybe you and I come from different generations/social-economic enviroments, maybe not. I’m not familiar with your postings and that is neither here nor there.
Missing the point? Nope ! No Workie – No Tickey ! No Jobs – No Paycheck
You must not ‘missed the point of my post…
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AllLost
Dec. 16, 2012 at 5:30amI must have, and still do miss the point of your post. You mention the economy, the buyers market, and employers wanting a Masters as an entry level degree. I have no disagreement with that, but I still believe that is not the point here.
Students are graduating with a BS without the ability to read, write, and compute. The problem of the 80′s high school student being passed through the system is now happening at the college level. I could go on here, but have limited space.
It is a game of supply and demand out there, but the supply is very limited to meet the demand. The economy only shines a light on the issue.
Family is the solution, and you did your daughter a great service.
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cloudsofwar
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:31pmyou mean you can’t find a job with your liberal arts degree?
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Eastinfection
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:34pmHow about a “conservative arts” degree?
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HelloWorld
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:35pmThats hilarious!
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My Two Cents
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:48pmNot all, but a lot of young graduates I have dealt with could tell me who Snookie is but could not name the three branches of government or balance a checkbook.
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Eastinfection
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:10pmMY2CENTS…
Well rounded folks, like myself, can tell you all that info!
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HelloWorld
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:31pmHello! Are you guys just now catching on? I hate to say this but the standards are so poor at the lower level of the universities it is shocking. Misspelling on resumes, entitlement behavior. If you want a decent employee you need to look at the Honor Colleges where the standards are somewhat hirer. The top students have no problem finding a job. But, we have dumbed these kids down to a pathetic state. But, don’t worry they only owe about 100,000 a year and expect to make twice that with no experience The retired will stay employed – believe me.
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HelloWorld
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:37pmSorry for the misspellings but I do have to blame this one on a stuck keyboard. I just can’t afford a new one right now.
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showmerancher
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:30pmOf course they are unemployable. What else would one expect from a system that teaches our children “what” to think, rather than HOW to think.
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:38pmAnd the gimme attitude is also a hindrance.
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:06pmI had a 20-something college kid quit a salaried position last month after 2 weeks. Claimed I was a liar.
I told him on day one what his weekly salary was…he thought that would be his take home.
They are just completely worthless for the most part.
Hardest working young people these days? Single mothers with a support system to help watch the kids…but then you must deal with VERY limited availability, absences and covering all or parts of shifts when they have to leave because of something to do with the kid.
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goahead.makemyday
Dec. 17, 2012 at 10:10amCREESTOF
I’ll work I’ll be happy if it’s more than $8 p/h.
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neverending
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:27pmThe majority of them are stumped for an answer when asked what their name is!!! So many of them can’t read or even add 2 + 2!
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:40pmThat also goes for spelling like “Be Right Back” is now spelled BRB.
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Eastinfection
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:26pmThe budget for Auto-Shop and other Vo-Tech courses has been moved to Marching band & Ecology Theory because people think it’s more important for their kids to learn to play the freiken’ trombone & study Climate Change than it is to learn how to strip and rebuild a carburetor because it “looks better” on college applications.
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resme
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:41pmYou gotta admit today’s cars are pretty hard to fix, lol…
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:41pmEast – That’s the other thing… So much is put on the white collar job and mandatory college to get anywhere.
Early 70s had vocational and universities as options.
With some regional exceptions, try even a community college offering any trade classes/courses.
It was always said that if you go to college, don’t worry about the major… Just get the sheepskin…
A lot of today’s leaders, their kids and grandkids did just that. Hence liberal arts became popular for the sheeple… “Just get the sheepskin”…
Now the whining… BALDERDASH !
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Eastinfection
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:09pmRESME- lol. that’s why i prefer to drive yesterday’s cars.
DAD- … ahh….ahhh ….ahh …ACHOO(ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION)… gabless me ;)
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:43pmResMe – Mine still says “Body By Fisher” when you open either door. 501cc Cast Iron Block – 4 barrel Holley, etc. Easy to work on… Can fit a prius in my trunk… Funny thing is, about a month ago I was at a red light… Nose to nose with a prius, his rear bumper was equal to my knees… I had to laugh when the light turned green.
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:45pmEast Infection – “… ahh….ahhh ….ahh …ACHOO(ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION)… gabless me ;)
GOD Bless You !
Keep the powder dry brother…
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resme
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:53pm“RESME- lol. that’s why i prefer to drive yesterday’s cars.”
Right on, East!
The other week my grandpa was talking about fresh spring water he used to get from the mountain as a kid. Made me jealous of yesterday.
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Bum thrower
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:23pmThe education system doesn’t ‘teach’ boo**ch; it indoctriates the little socialists that they need to ‘feel good about themselves’ and sign up for a goverment check…..if they vote democrat!!
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RJJinGadsden
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:21pm“ARE TODAY’S GRADUATES UNEMPLOYABLE?” Uh, because our college graduates have been made that way by their professors? Or, the high school grads have been dumbed down more and more by their union teachers? Imagine that.
I base this partially on the fact that my son is working on a degree as an electrical engineer. While his usual instructors and professors within the core of his studies do stick with the subject since it is technical. He often complains of the required periphery courses where there are some instructors and professors preach their political ideology over the subject matter. He has learned to keep his mouth shut, and his opinion to himself while in those classes.
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Eastinfection
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:29pmlol RJJ..
i took Sociology 101 three times.
Didn’t need to.
Just enjoyed all the arguing with the professor.
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:55pmEastinfection – That I can relate to… Was told to not return…
Subject was “Prostiution and the reason for it was lack of sexual satisfaction”
Raised my hand, “Mr. (DadRocked’s Son), do you have anything to add to this?”
“Yes sir, the whores out there are just out for the money.”
“They are prostitutes sir, not whore’s. The writers of the textbook have PHD’s. What do you base this on.”
“While in the Air Force I moonlighted and worked part time as a bartender. After discharge I was a cop and I’ve known whores. As for your PHD’s, they should get out of the lab and quit having their students do their studies.”
“Sir, I must ask you to see me in the hall. You can bring your books and coat with you.”
Gathering my things, “Class, always keep an open mind and don’t let anybody force things into your head without your own research.”
In the hall… “You can take Sociology but NEVER in my classroom again… Good day sir…”
“I would have it no other way for one to be a teacher they must know what they are teaching.”
He went back into class and closed the door.
So Eastinfection… I know what you mean pal !
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RJJinGadsden
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:29pmEASTINFECTION, LOL, I hear you on that. I took a Criminal Psy that was mandatory. I just wish I had had the time to have expressed myself in that course. The instructor treated all of the law enforcement personnel in the course as the problem.
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RJJinGadsden
Dec. 15, 2012 at 4:40pmDADROCKED, LOL, I love that story. Sounds as though your professor/instructor had one of those truly open minds that the left keeps spouting off about. I do understand where you are coming from and how you came to your conclusions. I have had plenty of dealings with prostitutes too, and also from the law enforcement side. Many years ago I had a part time job Friday and Saturday nights as a bar bouncer. Always had to keep an eye open for prostitutes hitting on the customers as well as observing them for picking pockets.
LOL, the only other thought that comes to mind regarding the author(s) of your text book. Sounds like they had a penchant for the wares offered by their subject matter.
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DadRocked
Dec. 15, 2012 at 5:50pmRJJinGadsden – I could not think of him a professor nor an instructor – OK maybe slightly because he professed his ‘experiences’ to the rest of them. But RJJ, to this day, I still can not call them a prostitute… They’re Whores. LOL
Thanks for sharing a part of you life in return.
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Eastinfection
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:20pmYES
Why pay tens of thousands of dollar$ for information that is free in every public library?
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Mudd
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:45pmI agree with you, the problem is, without that worthless piece of paper that proves your in debt to an institution of “higher learning” an employer won’t even look at your application. On the other hand, with that worthless piece of paper an employer will welcome a complete moron with open arms and a kick a$$ compensation package.
I’ve been there, I’ve swept floors for businesses run by people I wouldn’t hire to water my lawn.
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Jayms
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:18pmYoung people are very bright, they’re just not being given the opportunity. Everyone just wants their employees to be skilled and trained already because they don’t want to take any risks in this economy. Hiring unproven students is risky.
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:46pmIt’s also useful if the words out of their mouth is “Sup Dog” or “Hows it Hangin Bro”.
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TheWhiteFalcon
Dec. 15, 2012 at 9:05pmA good amount are somewhat dim, unfortunately. They’ve paid the price of our failed education system.
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flyoverbob
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:18pmThe answer is obvious,we need to fund the teachers pension fund
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Eastinfection
Dec. 15, 2012 at 3:27pmLet them eat cake!
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goahead.makemyday
Dec. 17, 2012 at 10:16amDon’t forget the psychotropic laced icing on that cake.
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