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In a Monday morning monologue following the tragedy in Newtown, CT, MSNBC host and former GOP congressman Joe Scarborough said he’s having a change of heart regarding certain aspects of gun control.
“For me, just like for you, there is no escaping the horrors visited upon those students and teachers at Sandy Hook,” he began, after noting that his own son has Asberger’s Syndrome just like has been reported about the shooter, Adam Lanza.
“But every American must know, form this day forward, nothing can ever be the same again,” he added. “…Let Newtown be the hour after which, in the words of the New Testament, we did all we could do to make all things do. Politicians can no longer be allowed to defend the status quo.” And he made no qualms that he was talking about gun control, bringing up other recent shootings, “combat-style weapons,” and “twisted readings of our Bill of Rights.”
He did say that “no single action can solve the problem that can save our children,” but he still let it be known where a lot of the blame lies:
“You know me: I am a conservative Republican who received the NRA’s highest ratings over four terms in Congress. I saw this debate over guns as a powerful symbolic struggle between individual rights and government control. … But the symbols of that ideological struggle they’ve been shattered by the harvest zone from violent, mind-numbing video games and gruesome Hollywood movies that dangerously desensitize those who struggle with mental health challenges. And then add in military-style weapons and high-capacity magazines to that equation and tragedy can never be too far behind. … You know there is now easy ideological way forward. If it were only that simple as to blame Hollywood, or the NRA, or insufficient funding for mental health, then our task would be completed in no time. But I come to you this morning with a heavy heart and no easy answers. Still, I’ve spent the past few days grasping for solutions and struggling for answers — while daring to question my own long-held belief on these subjects.”
Then, after explaining that he once held and defended the “libertarian” view on guns, he’s changing:
I knew that day that the ideologies of my past career were no longer relevant to the future that I want, that I demand for my children. Friday changed everything. It must change everything. We all must begin anew and demand that Washington’s old way of doing business is no longer acceptable. Entertainment moguls don’t have an absolute right to glorify murder while spreading mayhem in young minds across America. And our Bill of Rights does not guarantee gun manufacturers the absolute right to sell military-style, high-caliber, semi-automatic combat assault rifles with high-capacity magazines to whoever the hell they want. It is time for Congress to put children before deadly dogmas.
“For the sake of my four children and yours, I choose live and I choose change. It’s time to turn over the tables inside the temple,” he concluded.
You can listen to him explain it all, below:
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salvawhoray
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:09pmI really hate the word “EPIC” it is being used way too much.
You can start a new drinking game with it.
Epic this Epic that.
Everything can’t be Epic.
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Cavallo
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:14pmEpically said.
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RANGER1965
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:30pmThe definition of Epic is a long story about legendary heroes. Since Scarborough isn’t a hero, or legendary, but a rather whiny character, playing at being a token conservative, on a socialistic network.
Lets re-title this piece as:
‘Friday Changed Everything’: MSNBC’s Scarborough Goes on a long, whiny, Rant, Says He’s Changing His ‘Libertarian’ Stance on Gun Control to a more politically correct stance. One that won’t rile his bosses, and will be at least marginally acceptable to his small, liberal, audience.
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GeorgieJo
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:32pmHEY JOE—–
Tim McVeigh killed 168 people in Oklahoma in 1995 with a truck and a fertilizer bomb. YOU WANT TO OUTLAW FERTILIZER??
Joe-You are a stupid turn coat Progressive. Now drink some starbuckys and kiss Meeka’s ******.
OMG–The Progressives are getting a freak on about this.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:37pmInteresting point. Maybe that will be Greg Gutfeld’s “Banned Word Of The Day” on today’s The Five.
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Amarath01
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:40pmLets see he is not a libertarian then , who would have thunk it.
If he doesn’t understand the basic concept of it then one would think control .. force be the answer.
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michaelmoron
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:43pmScarborough is coming out of the closet. lol.
He is a RINO.
Here is the bottom line.
The Federal “government” (A private corporation) is partly responsibole for this.
THEY VIOLATED THE 2nd AMENDMENT RIGHTS of the ADULTS on campus and took away
THEIR RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES !!!!!
The Federal “government” created this “SITTING-DUCK ZONE”
If I were a relative of someone slain, I would be holding this PRIVATE CORPORATION that calls itself my “Government” accountable, and would be suing them.
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commies.in.the.wire
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:53pmSixth Plank in the communist manifesto: Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State
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GilbertAcct
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:08pmScarborough is about as libertarian as Mitt Romney.
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IndyGuy
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:26pm“You know me: I am a conservative Republican”….No Joe…You are a rino…Let’s be clear here…You only appear Republican when it suits your tit for tat show…
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desertspeaks
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:34pmThis is EPIC; although the feds don’t like it and refuse to admit it;
U.S. Supreme Court CAHA v. U.S., 152 U.S. 211 (1894) “Generally speaking, within any state of this Union the preservation of the peace and the protection of person and property are the functions of the STATE government, and are NO PART of the primary duty, at least, of the NATION. The laws of congress in respect to those matters DO NOT EXTEND INTO THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE STATES, but have force ONLY in the District of Columbia, and other places that are within the exclusive jurisdiction of the national government.”
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antiprogressive
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:38pmMMoron – good name.
Suing the government because someone snapped is a liberal “basic”.
Taking MY tax dollars because another idiot stole his mother’s property and used it improperly
is no smarter than doing the same when a person steals a car and rams a bunch of people.
Some things cannot be cured.
Stupidity, it seems, for one.
If you want to be pissed, be pissed at the mother who did not lock up her weapons when she knew her child was on the edge.
Sue her estate if it makes you feel better but that is a wussie tactic.
Your lawsuit against the gvmt will only get other overly smart kids with mental problems locked up in an insane asylum BEFORE they do anything wrong.
And what will the ACLU think about that?
They’re not ABOUT to lock up every person getting a “crazy” check.
Too many of their own on that list…
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mrunner
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:47pm@Desertspeaks. I love you man! Thank you for pinpointing something we all need to know and stand on!
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michaelmoron
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:56pm@antiprogressive
Taking your tax dollars ? lol. Are you ignorant or what?
The Central Bank has been taking your tax dollars Since you began earning income.
That is because of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.
Don’t be pissed at me that you are a factotum to the private bank and pay Unconstitutional Unapportioned Tax. That is your own fault, due to your ignorance of History.
I don’t believe in friviolous Lawsuits. That is why I would never sue the Family of the shooter because they were not responsible for anything. Her estate should go to surviving relatives.
I also don’t blame the Mother for not locking up her guns. I am sure she didn’t see this coming.
My point was to not blame the gun, and turn the tables on those who demonize a tool that helps me feel secure though out my life. Safe and secure at Home. Safe and Secure when I travel. And Safe and secure when I am in a Precarious situation.
You do NOT punish those who are not responsible for brutal and vicious crimes.
Banning the guns, only allows “sitting-Duck Zones” to be vulnerable to Machete, Bomb, Knive, Axe,
vehicular, etc. mass killings.
GET REAL !!!!!
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michaelmoron
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 4:14pmYes. I don’t Like the Private Corporation and I will sue them, given any opportunity.
I don’t care that you are subservient to them.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President Wilson signs this bill, the INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT of the monetary power will be legalized….the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill. From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.”
– Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., 1913
“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today.”
― Theodore Roosevelt
“There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this Nation is run by the international bankers.”
– Congressman Louis T. McFadden
There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this Nation is run by the international bankers.”
– Congressman Louis T. McFadden
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You like the Private Corporation ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYLe02uld_0
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pitboss711
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 4:19pmScarborough needs to take his little girl panties off and grow a set.
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pavepaws
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 4:25pmJoe, the ratings whore.
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michaelmoron
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 4:25pm*Addendum
“The real truth of the matter is that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
– President FD Roosevelt
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Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 4:41pmHe obviously didn’t have a libertarian view on 2nd amendment. If he dished would never give them up, because libertarians don’t think guns are just for target practice or merely a defense against the basic home invader.
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 4:55pmhere is a good video by Penn Jillette on gun control idiocy
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/video-should-every-american-be-able-to-own-a-tactical-rifle/
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Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 5:08pmCongratulation, Scarborough finally identifies himself as the RINO he really is. What a fraud! He never was a republican:
http://www.isthatbaloney.com/alex-jones-give-prophetic-warning-about-gun-control-laws-and-comments-on-fake-obama-crying/
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GuruMeditation
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 5:19pmAgreed.
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Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 5:22pmWhat a joke this Scab-orborough is, he can’t even quote scripture correctly. When he says, “Let Newtown be the hour after which, in the words of the New Testament, we did all we could do to make all things new.” Revelation 21:5 actually says “He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
Nice try Joe, you are a RINO!
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rs9
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 6:01pmThis is the one event they have been praying for! Not one gutless republican will be able to say a word in defense of our freedoms
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DarkJello
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 6:18pmAs others have said, how do more “sitting duck zones” keep us safe??
The “logic” of the progressives is out of this galaxy. Bat shiz crazy!!
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ashestoashes
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 6:30pmHear this Scarborough..the Bible says that we will turn our weapons into plow shears..but that will not happen until the Millenial Kingdom, run by Jesus/Yeshua, has come in….You aren’t God..and you are not Jesus..The tribulations will come first..It actually goes right along with this NWO agenda..where it’s going to get hellishly nasty..We know the plans of the NWO (Agenda 21) and that is for massive depopulation of the world..You keep up this anti gun stance..and I am betting you are going to have to switch over to the Demoncratic Party..because the Conservatives are not buying it..
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paleoconservatarian
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 9:02pmAnother expected voice lends itself to anti-constitutional demagoguery. Who here though “conservative Republican” Scarborough would take the principled stand and not use the brutal actions of a kiddie murderer to advance an agenda completely unrelated to the motivations which inspired the act?
So twisted is their thinking they speak as if a murder spree were some sort of political statement (which kinda gibes in a weird way with their bizarro held belief that political acts of terror are simply crimes.)
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jhrusky
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 9:16pmI don’t know if anyone has posted it yet, but I found this interesting:
The following is a table from 2009 that shows all murders from all 50 states, firearms and otherwise. An interesting statistic: California can be considered to be the strictest state in the nation in regard to gun control. Interestingly enough, they also had, by far, the MOST firearm related murders. In contrast, Vermont had NONE. Vermont, by the way, is a Constitutional carry state, which means ANYONE can carry concealed, with no permits or licenses.
http://tinyurl.com/4ho6ah6
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Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 9:23pminteresting though, i didn tknow he was a “Republican”….Not that i watched him very often but the times that I did, I didn’t get that feeling….
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Soulfire1975
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:18amTo be honest the only way those are military type weapons is in looks alone. They really isn’t any difference the a 22 rifle unless you get one that has a higher cal. like a 308 which then it would be like a 308 rifle.
Shot guns do more damage and if you get rid of one, be ready for them to come for the others until you can’t even own a paintball gun.
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Becks_Art_Obama_In_PeePee
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:19am” ‘Friday Changed Everything’: MSNBC’s Scarborough Goes on Epic Rant, Says He’s Changing His …”
Wow! That’s a long time before Scarredbraino’s diaper change (I’d bet everyone on set was glad to hear that).
“… Changing His ‘Libertarian’ Stance on Gun Control”
Oh, gun control. Sounds like he doesn’t know what is “gun control”.
Libertarian? Ha! RINO. He doesn’t know what is the U.S. Constitution, either.
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airborneoathkeeper
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 9:44am….or gone viral.
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4truth2all
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 11:16amYo Jhrusky:
Those are facts/truth … we are not interested in that
Also .. Calif. probably has the highest illegals …
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gz22ll
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:08pmBoy the gun sales are going to go through the roof now. My Christmas list just change completely. Not that I need an AR15 or high capacity mags but I might in the future. So off to the shop to stock up on some lowers and mags. HO HO HO!
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Cavallo
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:23pmGet em before they cut off the supply. Stock up on the ammo too, they may try to ban that as well.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:32pmI heard that you can get pretty reliable weapons at fastandfurious.com.
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CALLMEMSGT
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:38pm@gz-One of Joes fellow bigheaded narrow shouldered cohorts was suggesting $5000.00 tax per box of ammo right after Joes diatribe. He was actually serious.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:41pmTHE_JERK, Okay, LOL, that was a very good one.
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GeorgieJo
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 4:21pmJOEY SCAR?
I know you are reading these posts because your EGO is so INFLATED.
So WHY NOT HAVE an EPIC RANT over the death of the ambassador to LIBYA?
YOU know CHRIS STEVENS?
or Make Missy Meeka have a BIG RANT over BRIAN TERRY—you know the US border agent MURDERED by american guns?
OH NO. These murders don’t FIT INTO the PROGRESSIVE AGENDA.
Kiss Georgie Soros ring as you leave 30 ROCK.
What a insipid doofus you have become JOEY SCAR.
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DarkJello
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 6:20pmNot to be rude–or anything–but here is a napkin for your chin Joey. LMBO.
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Flag-Man
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:07pmSemi-Auto are NOT assault rifles
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BSdetector
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:24pmNor are they military style.
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Mike76
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:26pmIt does no good…At this point, they’ll call them “magic banana goats” if they think it will demonize the tool and help their cause.
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Cavallo
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:27pmWhich is why you don’t need a Class III license to buy one.
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DarkJello
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 6:22pmFlag-man:
Classic mistake broham. Logic does not compute with most of the bleeding hearts.
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Keatonc33
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 6:41pmNor should they be legal. lets not kid ourselves. no one needs one!
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Git-R-Done
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 9:32pmKeaton – And who are you to say what kind of guns people should be allowed to own?
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LatvianinUS
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:07pmWhat about the over 3’000 babies killed in abortions every single day in america???? Once they answer this then they can come back and talk about guns.
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libsrparasites
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:23pmThey have relabeled that as “choice”.
Therefore, no mention of that genocide is neccessary…
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nesmond
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:37pmI totally agree. 55 million dead babies since Roe v. Wade, but does “conservative” Joe decry that? What a hippocrate. These unborn cannot speak for themselves, so they are killed. The only difference I see in these poor children who died in Newtown and the 3,000 murdered daily are six to seven years. Joe calls himself a conservative, but why does he not cry out every day about this slaughter? My God, when our nation can be as heartless and cruel as this, what should we expect?
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AvengerK
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:28pmThey rolled out Sandra Fluke to demand the tax payer pay for her killing of infants and the shameless liberal curs don’t even flinch. They elevate the treacly hag as a Joan of Arc no less. Oh how noble…get the tax payer to pay for the killing of infants..but never call them infants..call it “choice” and “reproductive rights”.
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RANGER1965
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:04pmA freedom loving person must accept the fact that the price of freedom is responsibility for one’s actions.
AND…that some will take the gift of freedom and do evil with it. Freedom is somthing you earn with blood. Sometimes it’s the blood of patriots, sometimes it’s the blood of tyrants, and sometimes it’s the blood of innocents.
We must accept the fact that not only will men die to make us free, but people will die (sometimes unjustly) enjoying that very freedom.
Those willing to pay that price deserve freedom, and you must deserve it, or it’s lost.
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encinom
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:20pm********.
Don’t write your lecture about freedom with the blood of innocent children.
NO AMERICAN HAS A RIGHT TO OWN MILITARY WEAPONS.
Its time for the adults to take away the toys from the paranoid fools that beleive they need these tools of death.
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IWISHIWASINTEXAS
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:22pmRight on Ranger!
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libsrparasites
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:26pmencinom is in meltown mode today!
Scrubbing the blood of these babies off of you is not quite as easy as you thought huh?
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IWISHIWASINTEXAS
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:27pmWhat constitutes a “military weapon”??? Is it because it has piticanny rails to use scopes, lasers, or bipods? Is it because they are painted camo or matte black? Is it because they are semi-automatic? I’m guessing all of the above because they look “scary” to liberals. Guess what. Plenty of hunting rifles are semi-automatic as well. Crawl back in your toddler bed please.
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CALLMEMSGT
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:29pm@Encinom- If these taliking heads and politicians are really interested in preventing or mitigatiing the effects of events like this, why don’t they ban unlocked classroom doors instead of worrying about the type of weapns the next srew ball uses when he shoots up a school.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:34pmEncinom” NO AMERICAN HAS A RIGHT TO OWN MILITARY WEAPONS.”
Don’t confuse your opinion with our rights.
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RLTW
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:35pmENC
History has proven Gun confiscation in a political environment like this is followed by murder and genocide, understanding history and patterns is not paranoid.
You trust this government/Marxist ideology and its goals because you’re lazy.
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CloudNine
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:39pm@ Encinom –
Great – Enema (aka Encinom) is back! Just what we need. I am surprised you are still alive over these past several years. Is it hard to breathe with your head up your “arse”? For those of you unfamiliar with this quack, ignore “it”. There is never any relevance to “it’s” comments! You still have the Rod Serling “Fathead” on your wall, Mr. Enema?
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SREGN
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:41pmThose who would give up freedom for security deserve neither. Far more lives are saved by legal guns in America, than are taken by them. Allowing nutballs to run free will result in tragedies from time to time and most of them will not involve firearms. Sometimes they will. Nutballs running free are the problem, not firearms. As far as assault weapons go, the main purpose of an armed citizenry is to prevent opressive government. Therefore, you need firepower to match that of the potential opressors. I’ll have a Warthog in my hangar and an Abrams in my garage, please. Time is getting short.
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mercenary4freedom
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:44pmAnother mouthpiece and shill for the left wing global assault on our sovereignty & freedoms. obama is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on the american people.
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encinom
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:50pmMy God, the mindless ******** of the Blaze can only parrot the propaganda the NRA feed into their tiny little minds.
Unless you are in a WELL REGULATED MILITIA you have no right to guns you masterbate to. Its time for the adults to take away your toys.
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Chrisrob63
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:55pmWell said; well spoken.
I never had the opportunity to serve, and now am too old. But I can still live by the words of Christ who said that greater love hath no man that he should lay down his life for his brother. If nothing else I would use my dad’s 1903 Springfield, a bolt action “millitary weapon of death” to save a life. The cowards can hide and hope the police will save them.
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Clownzilla
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:55pm@Encinom
Glad your not grounded from your computer anymore. Listen, as much as it hurts me to say this we NEED these weapons to protect fools like you from getting steamrolled by future government oppression. Remember, some of the most successful democracy’s can (and have) eventually turn into the most oppressive dictatorships. Guns are the great equalizer between a government and it’s population. Your idiotic comments are protected by my right to have assault weapons and as much as I see you as a mindless club wielding caveman you do have the same rights and freedoms of speech as I do and those rights must be protected for all.
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commies.in.the.wire
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:01pmThis troll ENCENOM seems like he’s begging for tyranny.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:04pm” Its time for the adults to take away your toys.”
Come and do it ENCINOM. I’ll e-mail you my address.
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Cuthalu
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:07pm@encinom
And the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bare arms shall NOT be infringed. Strange, I am seeing this BLANTANT disregard to the actual words of the 2nd amendment rights and other rights when it comes from progressives like you. What you did was no accident, you are PURPOSELY being deceptive in order to push you wicked worldview on the rest of us who do believe in our rights, fully.
People understand the enemy for who they are. They are liars, deceivers, manipulators and control freaks. And who is the father of lies? Who speaks the language of lies as their primary language? You know. You all know.
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nesmond
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:20pmThe intention of the second amendment was to defend us from not just would-be criminals, but from all aggressors, both foreign and domestic. I cannot understand why progressives think taking guns away is a good idea? Was it a good idea in Germany? The U.S.S.R.? China? etc. Looking back on history, it seems to me a disturbing pattern that citizens who lose their rights to own firearms end up up slaughtered by the same government that took away their guns. But not this time, right? We learned from those tragedies. We have attained a level where citizens should place our trust in the benevolence of those who hold office. What makes you think that a government that sponsors the murder of 3,000 babies per day would not hesitate to slaughter those who would dare speak out against it if they are disarmed? I believe the only reason they have not slaughtered us yet is the fact that we are armed. The aggressors have high-capacity magazines, Fully-automatic weapons, and we are expected to defend ourselves with what? Muzzle-loaders? All you useful idiots out there had better think real hard about this. As I recall, the useful idiots of the past suffered the same fate as everyone else.
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AvengerK
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:24pmLOL…don’t p*ss on my back you lefty creep ENCINOM/MONICNE/KREGNEVA /SLEAZY HIPPO.
If you actually cared about young children you wouldn’t advocate killing them by the millions in abortion clinics. You sad POS. YOU, my ugly little friend are the one who’s been making lectures with the blood of infants and your repulsive, morally relativist kind have been doing it for decades with not a second thought.
No..what you want to do is disarm those “bitter clingers” so you can jackboot your way over them like a good marxist. I know you lefties very well….you threaten and demand about taking away peoples’ freedoms and arms but when you’re told “molon labe”…you cringe and cower back into the shadows because you know they’ll do what they say they’ll do to you. Millions of Americans own firearms that are not for hunting purposes and they own them responsibly and safely. But have you had a look in Obama’s Chicago lately? What’s the death toll there this year? What’s Rahm doing about wasting that crisis? Yeah..that’s what I figured….you’ve got nothing you craven cur. YOU are the one trying to capitalize from the blood of innocents…you lefties haven’t stopped since Friday with your Greek chorus of “ban guns..ban guns”.
What are you going to do when the next whackjob uses a bomb because you believe you took his guns away from him? Ban fertilizer? You idiot and typical liberal of you…instead of fixing the problem..you just tak
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AvengerK
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:32pmI’ll finish my point ENCINOM/MONICNE/KREGNEVA/IDIOT…..
In typical statist liberal fashion..rather than address the real problem, you just want take away freedoms instead. Molon Labe creep….
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apbt55
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:50pmit seems ecommunist is not familiar with the vernacular of the period. A well regulated militia would today read a well equipped citizenry.
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grimmster
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 4:02pmHey encinom,what military weapons would that be dumbass?….
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Excomunicatedmarine
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 4:16pmOk Encinom say I buy your argument that no one should own military weapons………..it still leaves out the weapons recently used……..no military armorer wants to preted the AR15 types we get all horny about are miliary rifles………calling them assault rifles is like calling a jeep liberty an armor plated humvee.
I think we are better off to protect our schools etc. Just like we do our lawmakers…..no more, no less. Do you not think the terrorist currently hiding in our country after crossing our ridiculous border security don’t know our schools are easy killing zones ?
Wake up America, we shut God out and are bound to slavery, hooks in the jaw so to speak. It ain’t exactly pretty, but if you choose not to defend yourself so be it. Just don’t lay your weakness on the rest of us who will likely be the ones who save your **** at our own peril.
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RANGER1965
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 4:41pmWe accept the fact that the price of drinking alcohol is that some people will abuse it and destroy their lives and the lives of others. Because of that some people choose not to drink at all, but they don’t insist that THEIR choice must be imposed on everyone else.
We accept the fact that driving tons of metal at 60+ miles/hour is a great way to get to where you’re going, but that some people will abuse this freedom and kill themselves and others. Some people choose not to drive because of that, but they don’t insist that THEIR choice must be imposed on everyone else.
And the above examples are not even constitutional rights. It is our right as a freedom loving people to have arms, and to use them as we see fit. We must understand that this right comes with a heavy responsibility, that we must train ourselves to be proficient and safe with a tool that deals death.
BUT we must also accept the fact that some will choose not to be responsible for this awesome right, and that they will do evil with their freedom. Therefore the price of freedom will always be blood, and sometimes the blood of innocents. It’s an awful truth, but no amount of emotional pleas, or nebulous thinking will change this fact.
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Balthazor
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 5:12pmI feel like I’m wasting my time responding to Encinom, since he has all the appearances of being nothing but a tool, but what the heck…
The US federal government still, to this day, defines the militia as every able-bodied man over the age of 18.
The military branches, you know, the Army, Air Force, etc. Those are not “militias” you idiot. Militias are citizen soldiers. Those guys, they’re professionals.
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lel2007
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 5:49pmI’ve heard the crazy killer left the AR in the trunk of his car and used two handguns to do the dastardly deed. But this fact matters not to obama & Co., nor all the other screaming mimis.
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Berbel73
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 6:11pm“A well regulated militia, being neccessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” No where in that succinct statement does it say that in order for a person to keep and bear arms that they have to first belong to a militia. Our founding fathers knew that a militia is formed from people who already have arms. Encinom’s claim is just another progressive tactic. They attempt to distort the true meaning of the Constitution in order to further their political agenda. Sorry Encinom but we the people know better.
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Techcon
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 11:02pm@ENCINOM-AN
It’s Spoiled Brat morons–like you–who created these guns free zones, thereby ensuring psychopaths a safe place to do their damage. The Aurora shooter bypassed theaters closer to his residence, and used the one for his attack, because they posted a no concealed weapons sign outside.
If you hated gun violence as much as you hate guns, you’d know the solution is more guns in the hands of good people.
Touch the monolith, already. Damn.
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Alky
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 10:29amGotta wonder how dense these libs are when they’re loudly marching in lock step as useful idiots supporting a regime that will with their help, eventually rule over them with tyranny.
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CALLMEMSGT
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:04pmScarborough does not know coon poop from apple butter. He was spouting off that an AR-15 would fire 30 rounds per second and that they are used by the military. Fact of the matter is that there are many guns out there that are can put about as much down range in the right hands as the AR. He is whining about 30 round mags- he would probably pee himself if he knew how fast an new 10 round mag can be slapped into the well. He is ignorant.
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rp454
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 5:51pmSomebody please tell this idiot that a fully automatic M-16 (military weapon) can only file about 15 rounds per second under the best of conditions. The semi-automatic AR-15 (civilian version) comes no where close. I don’t care if you are using a Chihuahua on 15 cups of coffee to pull the trigger.
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Tea-******
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:03pmSad commentary on America – the access to mental health is denied by the Republicans if it is going to cost them one penny in taxes but the access to buying guns is unlimited – as long as there is a profit being made.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:10pmIdiot.
There is no right to mental health cost coverage.
There is a right to self defense.
If you’d learned anything beyond what your socialist teachers taught you in life, if you’d ever truly developed the capacity for self awareness that extends beyond following the dogma you’ve chosen to follow, you’d know this.
Buzz off.
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Cavallo
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:13pmOh no, .. if you really want to give your guns to us for free be our guest. A profit is simply an honest part of the exchange, the free choice of the provider of the service. I certainly wouldn’t mind getting something for nothing, but I don’t expect it. BTW, huge crowds are showing up to gun shows.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/12/16/connecticut-school-shooting-doesnt-deter-crowd-at-gun-show-in-montgomery-county/
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sooze0711
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:22pmThere is no difference between Republicans and Democrats. As long as they can divide the nation into thinking there is a ‘side’ to be taken, the longer Americans will live in darkness to the evil this ‘one-party’ system is perpetrating.
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:36pm@SOOZE0711. Keep talking like that, keep pulling on the curtain, and they will come a knockin.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:41pmTEA-******, Hmmmm, yet every time there is a convention or gathering for Democrats or the President visits, its the Left that sweeps the homeless from the streets and pushes them somewhere else out of sight. Along with all of the mentally ill among them.
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louie louie
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:44pmAccess to abortion is unlimited as long as there is a profit to be made. Is that what you meant to say? Abortion takes far more innocent lives every day than guns do. So if you are really interested in saving lives you’d fix that problem first, wouldn’t you?
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Cuthalu
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:16pmA mental health industry that has NEVER cured anyone, only “treats” people of made up “diseases” they vote into existince every year to put in their big book of mental disorders? An industry who “treats” mental illnesses by unproven drugs that cause more harm than solves? Who’s drug pushing from the paramacutecal drug companies is out in the open but want to pretend they doing their jobs to….help people. They only want job security by getting tax money funneled 100% to them without actually doing anything positive or helpful for that money.
The mental health industry has a long history of abuse, fraud and pain they have caused to so many people and families. When is enough, enough with these freaks? When will society seem them for the conmen then really are? How many more lives will they destroy before people wake up to them?
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AvengerK
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 4:11pmRJJING….was that an inconvenient truth?
Look no further than what’s happening in Chicago under Obama’s former chief of staff as mayor. The death toll is higher than our casualties in Afghanstan this year. Where were the cries of outrage? Why has that crisis been wasted? As usual..another example of the shameless American left.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 6:13pmAVENGERK, Yes, I’ve been aware of that. Truly inconvenient isn’t it? The blame for the left goes back to when Reagan requested some program cutbacks. But, the Dems have have actually done more real damage. The dems who run Connecticut made a major cutback very early this year regarding mental health care, not Republicans. But the likes of TEA-BRAVO-AGGER will blindly blame Republicans as usual. Oh, tag that site name and check the profile page. The name is spelled out there without the stars.
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gnuym
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:02pmTalk is cheap. These people should LEAD instead of preaching to the rest of us. Joe….get rid of your guns….pay more taxes voluntarly….whatever you preach….DO.
Until a President (or news anchor, or politician, or whatever…..) is willing to for-go protection for themselves and their families by asking that the secret service and others put away their guns………I am not willing to listen.
Lead!!! Then others may follow…….until then…..the people should be allowed to protect their families the same way politiicans are protected.
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IWISHIWASINTEXAS
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:23pmWell said and I couldn’t agree more. Their lives are worth no more than mine and my family’s so why should we forego the means to protect them?
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sooze0711
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:24pmYou’ve just said it all! Period, end of story!
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FaithfulFriend
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:02pmScarborough for dummies: Freedom & personal responsibility are dangerous things and can no longer be tolerated. The politicians need all the control over all our lives.
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Tri-ox
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:01pmLOL. Scarborough is a (semi-closeted) liberal and a long-time (semi-closeted) obama supporter – He holds NO libertarian or conservative beliefs and is not CHANGING anything.
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Mike76
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:31pmExactly. Scarborough plays a quasi-conservative on MSNBC just so they have something to fall back on when they are accused of being total Leftists. I’m starting to wonder about S.E. Cupp as well – her involvement with that organization puts her credibility in jeopardy.
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SCHEXbp
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:02amHe left the Panhandle of FL long ago, at least politically. He is under the spell of living deep within a blue state & wants to fit in there now. NO BACKBONE for his beliefs anymore. He should stop referring to himself as being from the Redneck Riviera. He should MOVE to NY/NJ lock, stock, & barrel.
Joe, we hardly knew ye.
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joeslick
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:59pmI would gladly trade places with any one of those kids if I could. And I would take every gun I have and throw them into the ocean’s deepest if I thought that would do any good. But truth is, it wouldn’t. Unfortunately, guns and evil people are going to be with us forever. If good people give up their means of self defense from the evil ones, then it’s game over.
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toidiegalliv
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:59pmYes, it is a rant, but epic??
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Cavallo
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:58pmHis libertarian views are quite shaky if one incident can change him in to a fascist ideologue. Or maybe he was always a fascist ideologue?
“And our Bill of Rights does not guarantee gun manufacturers the absolute right to sell military-style, high-caliber, semi-automatic combat assault rifles with high-capacity magazines to whoever the hell they want.”
Yes it does you fascist statist moron.
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markgl
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:58pmThis guy calls himself a republican or libertarian, but he isn’t. So for him to change his mind, I don’t believe.
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semihardrock
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:56pmOh…Florida news yesterday Headline…”Florida nears 1 million permits for concealed weapons”
Communism spreads like a disease…STAY IN NYC….and stop calling Florida “your home”
Shooter was raised in a Teachers Union home and in a CT College at 16yrs for being so “smart”
New Gun Law: Take away all guns from Democrats and gun related crime will definitely go down.
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jblovesAmerica
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:07pmAs we take away guns from responsible citizens-the only ones to have guns will be bad guys.
Took guns away from the Aussies-home evasions went Thu the roof.
There are laws against many things-and yet we have crimes-why is that.
Most States that are allowing CCW, crimes are down-why is that.
Most folks who commit this crimes are crazies-however we have become so PC-crazies have rights and we cant put them away-so they will not hurt themselves or others.
They Mother was deathly afraid of this kid-I want to know what she did or tried to do to get him put away.
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libsrparasites
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:17pmYou may have a point considering the fact that the mass murder ratio between those on the left and those on the right is about 10,000 to 1.
Before any leftist POS disputes this, please google stalin, hitler, lenin, pol pot, etc…etc…etc…etc…etc…
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TheCalmOne
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:12pmJBLOVESAMERICA – please provide citations for your assertions about Australian home invasions. Thank you.
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ResistSocialism
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:56pmchange is the problem! if government did not disarm those with authority at that school then perhaps the shooter could have been dispatched sooner saving more lives. this guy sounds like an emotional wreck
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taxpro4u03
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:26pmI’m often reminded of the Wal-Green’s guy and some other ‘convenience store/restaurant’ folks that DISOBEYED ‘policy’ – did what they had to do RESPONSIBLY, and lost their ‘jobs’ anyway. No amount of ‘money’ is worth a LIFE taken unjustly. Again — words are ‘symbols,’ and definitions vary depending on the JURISDICTION in which they’re being applied — public or private. Define ‘just….’ :-)
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UNALIEN
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:55pmJoe, putting emotion ahead of critical thinking… Modern Liberalism is a disease.. a mental disorder
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liberaldisgust
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:52pmScarborough has never been anywhere near center right or center.
Just a thought on the shooter: most experts will point out, the one thing the killer fears most is failure -the Majority of the time the Killer intends to die. They pick the target where they are least likely to fail – as an example, the Aurora movie theater shooting. What deters the killer is the possibility of failing especially where the intended target might be armed or be around others that might be armed..(concealed carry) This is a mental illness issue not a gun grabber issue. Deter these people (concealed carry), problem solved.
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oldguy49
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:02pmi carry and i am of the same mind…………..all but 1 of theses events{gabby giford} occured where firearms were not allowed…………..except by crimninals
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mrunner
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:51pmHow can one man consume that much Koolaid?
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:57pmScar is not a conservative, never has been libertarian in anything, is just the average democrat moron. Anybody that can work for a filthy propaganda network like MSNBC should never be given credence.
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zorro
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:51pmTypical. Like most other people, he’s over-reacting and letting emotions dictate the garbage he spews. No one, not the right, left, or center, has thought this throgh. Now is not the time for public policy debate folks. But it starts with our idiot President and goes on all the way through to these numb-nut blow-hards.
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booger71
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:51pmJoe
Unlike you, I choose to defend the Constitution
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SDAJumpmaster
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:12pmI am with you, Booger. The Founders made it clear the 2nd Amendment was not merely for sportsmen or even self-defense, but also to defend against the government if necessary. Kinda hard to do that with slingshots and arrows when they have crew-served weapons.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:51pmSo what he’s saying is that, in order to prevent tragedies that happen nearly exclusively at Gun Free Zones (by law) we should make many other places Gun Free Zones.
This man is bought and paid for, and you’re expected to follow him off the cliff. He wants you disarmed and unable to protect your family and children, all the while knowing that criminals will never disarm. This makes him more than stupid, it makes him evil. He wants our children to die in the same hail of gunfire while we stand helpless to defend them.
Joe Scarborough is a very, very bad man.
Never disarm. Never compromise. Never comply.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:55pmRemember that to the liberals, the only things that matter are the message, control of the message to the masses, and that the message causes the desired effect among the masses that the left want to achieve.
This is one more part of their propaganda ploy.
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resme
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:10pm@ghost, http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/9524-ron-paul-introduced-pro-gun-legislation
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:51pmJoe’s never been libertarian. He’s always been a progressive. So, start with the truth, then move forward.
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FreeUsAll
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:00pmVery true. Referring himself as “libertarian” on any stance is a an outright, obtuse lie. This man is a statist propaganda machine.
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Fubared
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:20pmIsn’t Scarborough really a Jew? What is with a non-Jewish rant JJ? Are his glasses Jewish? Maybe his coffee comes from Israel? When I think about which posts hold water, I always look to the nazi posts to guide me where I should think and feel. Sure. oh, obligatory jihad noise: lalalalalalalala.
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1911CK
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:50pmAnyone else see the resemblance to Beaker on “The Muppets”?
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101015151248/muppet/images/0/05/Beaker.jpg
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Cymry
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:59pmit’s that “liberal” look that joe has cloaked himself with and he doesn’t even know he’s done it. that condescending, smug, self-righteous, fearful, shallow spirit that transforms every aspect of a person’s character, physical appearance, mannerisms and speech.
tragic.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:48pmBwahahahaa. “I’m a conservative republican”. hahahahaha!!! Yeah, and I’m the tooth fairy.
Who actually believes this junk?
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 1:55pmIt’s not meant for us. It’s meant for the apolitical to see a “reasonable conservative” so that they can demand an individual right while claiming “bipartisanship”.
Bah.
Hey dude, my site. Discussion forum on it. Check it out.
http://www.patriotsdonotcomply.com
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:02pmDemand an individual right be repealed I mean, d’oh!
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Fubared
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:47pmGhost-
Very impressed, well done sir-
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 2:51pmThanks Fubared!
You’re welcome to join the Discussion area, btw, I always find your input valuable and intelligent. My goal is to get intelligent conversations generated without “my help” over there, if you know what I mean. Would be nice to reach that critical mass point, and then I can start focusing on article writing. :)
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Welcome Black Carter
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 5:39pmThat’s right Joe, we know you you. Alot of us think you are a closet liberal. Most know you for who you are… a RINO.
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