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“Fox & Friends” host Gretchen Carlson was moved to tears on Monday during a discussion about the nation’s moral fabric and the tragic school shooting that unfolded in Connecticut. While speaking about these subjects with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Carlson became emotional, especially when describing the importance of faith in the midst of tragedy.
Throughout the exchange, Huckabee lamented the fact that the nation has drifted from its Judeo-Christian past. Rather than invoking God daily, he noted that it is usually following tragedy that people begin thinking about a higher power.
“I’m not suggesting by any stretch that if we had prayer in schools regularly as we once did that this wouldn’t have happened,” Huckabee said during the interview. “But, we’ve created an atmosphere in this country where they only time you want to invoke God’s name is after the tragedy.”
Rather than embracing morality exclusively following horrific tragedy or personal pain, the former governor and Fox News host made it known that he believes people should consider these themes more regularly. Carlson responded to his comments with raw emotion.
“Yesterday at our church, Governor, it was so moving,” she explained. “It was so wonderful to know that if you are a person of faith, you have a lot of questions why, but you have something to hold onto.”
Huckabee said that he believes that Americans need to quit apologizing for their faith and “quit being ashamed that we believe in God.”
Watch the interview, below:
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fox6366
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:58pmI think that what happened to these people was an absolute tragedy. We need to pray for the families of those who lost a loved one. No amount of gun control will stop this kind of thing from happening in the future. If the people had the right to carry, it definitely would make the criminal stop and think about being stopped (or killed) by an armed citizen before he could carry out his crime. The criminal will still get his weapons regardless of gun control. We need to pray that this country will get back to putting God and Jesus first in all that we do (especially in the Government) because it certainly is not there now.
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000degrees
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:15pmI invoke His name daily….If he is talking about gov’t then I guess I understand what he is saying…
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Red Meat
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:40pmFOX. LOL
Get a life Blaze.
macpappy
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:50pmWe need to pray that this country will get back to putting God and Jesus first in all that we do (especially in the Government)
There is that whole religion separate from government thing, you know. I for one don’t Jesus or God in anything I do in government no more than I do Muhammad or Allah. Do you get that? Do you understand that government is not the place for religion. BTW has anyone checked the religious standing of mother and son here. They were Christian. I guess they did not have the direct line to Jesus though..
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Pontiaku
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:58pmGod doesn’t make a crazy person sane. It just makes them an evangelical or an Islamist.
“By maintaining the separation of church and state the United States has avoided the intolerance which has so divided the rest of the world with religious wars… Can any of us refute the wisdom of Madison and the other framers? Can anyone look at the carnage in Iran, the bloodshed in Northern Ireland, or the bombs bursting in Lebanon and yet question the dangers of injecting religious issues into the affairs of state? The religious factions will go on imposing their will on others unless the decent people connected to them recognize that religion has no place in public policy. They must learn to make their views known without trying to make their views the only alternatives… We have succeeded for 205 years in keeping the affairs of state separate from the uncompromising idealism of religious groups and we mustn’t stop now. To retreat from that separation would violate the principles of conservatism and the values upon which the framers built this democratic republic.” — Barry Goldwater,1981
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afishfarted
Dec. 17, 2012 at 3:09pmWhat the gov said is right.
In my lifetime, there has been a concerted effort to remove our society from Divine influence with the belief that we can regulate, legsilate and so forth without an adherance to a firm and fast definition of right and wrong based on Biblical principles. Removing prayer form school; removing the Ten Commandments from government buildings; removing any acknowledgement of Christmas from the public venue; all these things and more tells society at large we don’t need God.
The problem with that is without that defining line, the boundaries are constantly changed. Man can not have a properly functioning society if those boundaries constantly move. More could be said, but this has to be the starting point of the conversation.
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jblaze
Dec. 17, 2012 at 3:18pmThe duration of WWII was 2,194 days! There were 6 million Jews murdered during that time. That works out to approximatley 2,735 murders a day. Innocent men, women and yes children of all ages including babies. There were 97 Sandy Hook occurrences happening on a daily basis for 2,194 days!
I am not making light of the horrible tragedy of Friday, December 14th, all life is precious to God, for he gave it, just looking at the sick history of humankind and their total failure at bringing peace to this sick and dying world without God as its’ omnipotent leader.
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BODYBAG
Dec. 17, 2012 at 3:23pmGov Huckabee nailed it.
So you dont want God in school?
These are your schools without God.
Same goes for the government.
Enjoy.
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ColonelJackSchmice
Dec. 17, 2012 at 3:46pmMmmmm….I don’t think so.
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CanadaRocks
Dec. 17, 2012 at 3:46pmNo amount of praying is going to help either. I dont believe in god for numerous reasons but if praying helps anyone heres soul, i commend you. Do what helps you to heal and gain some strength from this tragedy. However no amount of prayer is going to stop these massacres. Access to guns in this country is a joke. Just because it is a right does not mean that it cant be regulated and recorded more thoroughly. Gun control may not solve the problem but restricted access and punishments for improper storage can help curb this kind of thing from occurring as frequently.
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FoxholeAtheist
Dec. 17, 2012 at 4:06pmYou should be ashamed you pray to a deity that you believe holds the power to stop this. You should be ashamed you pray to something that you believe knew about this before it happened. You should be ashamed. You make me sick.
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Pontiaku
Dec. 17, 2012 at 4:09pmCanadaRocks, gun control will no more stop a nutcase intent on harm than the claim god and morals will make a psychopath caring.
I think it’s odd how we can entrust our children to teachers but we cannot trust any of those same teachers with a gun. It’s apathetic for anyone to think gun control or prayer is a solution to the imbalanced chemistry in someones brain. You must always be on guard in this world and never assume some feel good law or sky daddy will save your bacon.
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v15
Dec. 17, 2012 at 4:10pmJBLAZE
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 3:18pm
The duration of WWII was 2,194 days! There were 6 million Jews murdered during that time. That works out to approximatley 2,735 murders a day. Innocent men, women and yes children of all ages including babies. There were 97 Sandy Hook occurrences happening on a daily basis for 2,194 days!
I am not making light of the horrible tragedy of Friday, December 14th, all life is precious to God, for he gave it, just looking at the sick history of humankind and their total failure at bringing peace to this sick and dying world without God as its’ omnipotent leader.
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And it happened 7 days after Pearl Harbor where 2,403 people were killed…which has absolutely nothing to do with Sandy Hook “occurrences” not anything else. Why don’t you divide the number of bullets fired in WWII, divide that by 2,194 days, and multiply the result by 2,735. Then take the square root of that result and see at what degree angle would you have to shoot a Japanese Zero out of the air when it’s flying at 244 miles/hr, 1,562 ft altitude, with the wind blowing northeast at 13 mph? Go back to your room full of newspaper clippings, with certain words highlighted, everything connected with string and get that answer on my desk by 5pm.
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HowTruthHurts
Dec. 17, 2012 at 4:16pmYou should be ashamed you didn’t pray to Christ that you know holds the power to stop this. You should be ashamed you didn’t pray to Christ who knew about this before it happened. You should be ashamed. You should make yourself sick.
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BODYBAG
Dec. 17, 2012 at 4:20pmWaaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaa
Absolutely amazing the THRONGS of dips**t atheists who show up here on
a gun story to troll.
LOL
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v15
Dec. 17, 2012 at 4:24pm@foxholeathiest,
So God must stop tragedies like this otherwise he is sick and twisted? I think God lets things happen from time to time to test our faith, something atheists will never understand. Besides, what makes you think that a human brain can understand the big picture compared to the mind of God? I love logic and making inferences but there has to be a point where logic only goes so far and faith has to be exercised to bridge the gap. Do not be so close minded.
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FoxholeAtheist
Dec. 17, 2012 at 4:38pmThere is no god. The fact that you pray to something that you believe exists and believe it is all powerful enough to stop something like this but doesn’t makes you sick. You people need help. You seem psychotic to me and I think your guns should be taken away before you hurt yourself of someone else.
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FoxholeAtheist
Dec. 17, 2012 at 4:40pmYes, if your god does exist and is as powerful as you say, the it has an obligation to prevent this type of thing from happening. Allowing children to die in order to teach others a lesson or test your faith is beyond reprehensible and it doesn’t deserve the praise or worship of anyone. If it exists, then is twisted, gross, and disgusting.
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BODYBAG
Dec. 17, 2012 at 4:47pm“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms, disarm only those who are neither inclined, nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants. They serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
– Thomas Jefferson, 1764
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IMCHRISTIAN
Dec. 17, 2012 at 5:00pmFoxhole—you can believe as you like. God he has given us freewill and if we chose evil we will pay and if we chose good then we will be in His favor. I have faith and if this country had not lost it morals and ethics we would not have the problems we have now days. So go right ahead and don’t believe in anything but I chose to have God in my life. Life is short and eternity is forever.
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glennpatstu
Dec. 17, 2012 at 5:17pmTotally. And when Jesus said to turn the other cheek, he clearly meant, “shoot him”. And when God said ‘Thou Shalt Not Kill” he didn’t mean in cases of death penalty, war or self defense- you gotta read the fine print, right? Wrong- no fine print on those messages or the other lessons that Christ gave to humanity.
The problem is that Christians don’t really follow Jesus. They like the cross and the other imagery, they like going to church, and they like being able to tell others that they are Christians. But they don’t know Jesus and they have decided to ignore MASSIVE parts of his message.
If Jesus were here today, you would call him a socialist. Read your bibles folks.
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encinom
Dec. 17, 2012 at 5:23pmJesus has a message for Huckabee and the Beckerheads defending him and guns:
http://youtu.be/xN2_sjzVAd0
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LuvsYeshua
Dec. 17, 2012 at 5:36pm“For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory” (Luke 9:26)
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v15
Dec. 17, 2012 at 5:57pm@foxholeatheist,
I agree with you on the point that I’m either right or I’m delusional. Faith is believing in things hoped for that are true. Christians abhor murder and do not love violence of any kind. But these things happen because there must be opposition in all things. Life is a test, a trial of our faith, enduring our trials and afflictions until the end. We do not presume that we know with absolute certainty that these children are in Heaven, but we, by faith and the holy spirit, have reason to believe that these children are with God. Faith is an action that must be exercised daily to grow.
If you really are searching for answers about life, then get on your knees and pray to God to soften your heart and ask Him for guidance and understanding. And if you are sincere, then you should feel a peaceful feeling come over you. That’s exercising faith. Try it. What do you have to lose? I would think that all “free thinkers” would be open to prayer since they want the truth. So, give it a shot, and don’t demand answers but be humble and ask for answers.
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v15
Dec. 17, 2012 at 6:04pm“The problem is that Christians don’t really follow Jesus. They like the cross and the other imagery, they like going to church, and they like being able to tell others that they are Christians. But they don’t know Jesus and they have decided to ignore MASSIVE parts of his message.
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I totally agree that many Christians are like this and I believe we have so many “brands” of Christianity because certain parts of His message are ignored and distorted. And I predict many Christians’ faith will be tested and tested, especially in these times we live in now.
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turkey13
Dec. 17, 2012 at 6:05pmAll the commies & athiest need to read Revelation Chapter 18 and 19.The city Babylon it mentions is NY City the new S_odmy & Gonerreah. If we hadn’t taken prayer and the mention of God out of the schools this kid would have had a sense of right & wrong. As far as his weapon it could have been a car or a truck. I could imagine him hitting an intersection as school turned out and punching the gas as kids entered thr intersection or swerving up on the sidewalk as kids wait for parents..
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majasdad
Dec. 17, 2012 at 6:26pm@ENCINOM
Nice link Encinom :)
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adalep
Dec. 17, 2012 at 6:28pmI think the Gov. got it right. Cause the liberals have pushed God out of their way, just like they are doing the Constitution. But then you have an arrogant fraud stand in front of the world and mocking God and his word. And without correcting them, he even allows people to claim that he is like unto Jesus. He is the leader of this nation and has brought judgement upon us all.
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GuruMeditation
Dec. 17, 2012 at 6:31pmAgreed… Letter from a Columbine Father:
http://planet.infowars.com/resistance/columbine-students-father-12-years-later
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Keatonc33
Dec. 17, 2012 at 6:43pmThe people who do this don’t care if they die. that isn’t their concern its their goal. concealed carry wont stop this level of madness. Cutting them off from guns, especially assault riffles, and removing their means for these mass murders would be much more helpful. lets not kid ourselves. if he went into that school with a knife we wouldn’t have 2o kid’s funerals this week.
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DIR
Dec. 17, 2012 at 6:44pm@ Encinom and Red Schtizu Breath
One of the first things I learned, when in navy boot camp, was: “if you don’t believe in God (christian, jewish, or other) you should.” Those with a belief system chances of survival are greatly enhanced, a statisical fact. This wasn’t some passing comment, it was a formal recommendation made by an hardened navy instructor. Apparently it does sometimes work. Well according the the U.S Navy. Though not always full proof, and for obvious reason, I’ve seen it in my own life, but don’t take my word for it.
As for ‘redschiztu’ who says: “get a life,” I watch fox read articles on the Blaze all the time, and I have a wonderful life. You shouldn’t be affraid to become properly informed. It’ll set you free, without the bad cramps, gas, bloating and the need for the bathroom which is most often the effect after frequenting so many other news outlets. If you must watch them, though, I saw a commercial that said midol tablets will help you, somewhat, with many of those symptoms.
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Keatonc33
Dec. 17, 2012 at 6:44pmwhy does china… an atheist nation have such a staggeringly lower homicide than America? a nation where 70% of us are christian?
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HowTruthHurts
Dec. 17, 2012 at 6:58pmNo body cares about some random youtube video.
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HowTruthHurts
Dec. 17, 2012 at 6:59pmAtheists aren’t non-believers. Atheists are angry believers.
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Locked
Dec. 17, 2012 at 7:37pm@Bodybag
Not Jefferson’s words.
“This is not something Jefferson wrote, but rather comes from a passage he included in his “Legal Commonplace Book.” The passage is from Cesare Beccaria’s Essay on Crimes and Punishments”
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SaintzOfAk
Dec. 17, 2012 at 7:52pmI love stimulating the Cortex of Atheist Trolls like “Foxhole”. 1st of all Fox, you speak with absolute ignorance on the Christian Faith. Nobody can successfully debate anything without knowing the subject matter.
It’s no wonder you have had no tangible experience with God. If you were to get off your lazy a$$ and fill the gaps in your argument by reading and familiarizing yourself with the belief system, it’s cogs so to speak. You would know how to attain the proof of what it is your looking 4.
Mathew 7:7 states clearly on how to find your proof…”Keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.
All you Atheists are the same. You want to counter what Christians know 2 be true, without having done a damn thing to invest any effort into testing the clearly stated method.
It would be the same as scientists resolving to their opinions as being fact, without ever having studied the subject matter, or methodically tested your theories. Your arguments are NULL and VOID from the beginning. In what reality are you given the right to argue against the validity of something from such an ignorant standpoint?
Se problem is Foxhole, i used to be just like you. Until i got off my lazy @$$ and tested the theory. Needless to say it took allot of effort (As with any successful scientific breakthrough), but I found my proof. DOA, your ill equipped 2 argue anything…Knowledge is power
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HowTruthHurts
Dec. 17, 2012 at 8:02pm@Keatonc33
Because China has limited freedom. With freedom comes free choice. With free choice comes bad choices.
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Pontiaku
Dec. 17, 2012 at 8:11pm@turkey13
“If we hadn’t taken prayer and the mention of God out of the schools this kid would have had a sense of right & wrong. ”
I’m sick and tired of this horse squeeze. This kid didn’t have a sense of what was right and wrong because he was a psychopath. There are plenty of psychopaths that have had their heads filled with god and still murder. Hitler was raised a roman catholic and look how he turned out. If you think government “schools” are places to teach empathy I got news for you, YOU’RE TOO LATE! It is not and never was governments job to push “your” antiquated myths down the throats of children that are not yours.
@Keatonc33
You’re just as idiotic, go away.
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Keatonc33
Dec. 17, 2012 at 9:25pmPontiak…. what did I say thats idiotic?
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alinmatt
Dec. 17, 2012 at 10:10pm@keaton, taking guns away won’t help. These psychos may be crazy, but they’re not stupid. They would probably get more creative in their methods, like stealing a propane truck and driving it through the front door. I could think of a lot of far more destructive things than a gun and we can’t ban them all.
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scissorflash
Dec. 18, 2012 at 1:46amWe need to put God back in the schools? I would assume that God was allowed in the churches, but that didn’t stop little kids from getting raped.
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TheCalmOne
Dec. 18, 2012 at 3:52amV15 – God let 20 innocent children get shot to death in order to test our faith? You worship a disgusting deity that would do that? What is wrong with you?
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enzomedici
Dec. 18, 2012 at 9:49amWhy didn’t God stop this tragedy from happening in the first place?
SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Dec. 18, 2012 at 10:06amMuch “wisdom” spouted in combination with much mockery and spiteful wording from some here in this thread, passing judgment on things they know nothing or very little about. It is a sad commentary on the whole of human nature and “reason”. Not taking the time to critical think through their embittered beliefs towards God or his existence. Not that they will listen to me either (of this I am well aware), but to answer a fool according to their folly, God may be as obligated to not intervene as much as you believe he would be obligated to intervene. If God, who has created man a free moral agent, intervened with this tragedy then he would be obligated to intervene with others, and if those tragedies why not “less” evils? And if those evils why not all evils? to the point that he would have no choice but to destroy all of us to prevent the evil he knows we will all do. So when we evaluate from an intellectually honest place that we may not have all committed physical murder, but we have all hated and harmed others in one way or another. It is the grace of God to not destroy us when we commit evil. The greatest evil was the murder of his sinless son, yet he did not stop it. In fact, it was his desire to allow it that we might receive redemption and forgiveness. His ways are much higher than ours. Of course the arrogance of man has always assaulted the character of God (and will continue to do so), there is nothing new under the sun. Thank you..
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HowTruthHurts
Dec. 19, 2012 at 7:39am@enzomedici
Why would we want Christ to stop what we’ve been begging for? For decades we have been striving to kick Christ out of our government, schools, and lives. Now you want Christ to control our fate? We wanted to rule ourselves – this is what we get.
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woowoo8
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:52pmWe will soon see the arrival of the year of our Lord- 2013.
Should we fear the coming of the “Terrible Day of the Lord”?
The answer is NO!
Should We fear the Lord?
The answer is YES! The only fear that we should have in this life is that of the Lord.
Why?
Proverbs 1:7-33
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Before you read the rest of these Scriptures – You must realize in your heart that God is not responsible for the slaying of the innocent children in Newtown. Every person on the face of this earth has “Free Will; This world is a world of Twos” – Choose good or evil. The killer chose evil.
God instructions to humankind-
“Turn you at my reproof: Behold, I will pour out my Spirit unto you, I will make known my Words unto you.
Because I have called and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand and no man regardeth;
But ye have set at nought all of my counsel, and would none of my reproof.
For that they hated knowledge and did not choose the fear of the Lord.
They would none of my counsel: They despised all of my reproof.
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
But those whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.
The 20 little innocents shall dwell with Jesus in the House of the Lord, forever.
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rockymtngal
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:28pmThe word “fear” in the Bible, except on a couple of occasions, means to respect God. Our nation isn’t.
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Rosemary Woodhouse
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:48pmAmen
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ModerationIsBest
Dec. 17, 2012 at 10:07pmNot sure which country Huckabee lives in but I don’t know many believers who act “ashamed” that they believe in one.
I think it’s Huckabee trying to make a point that isn’t there.
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raskew
Dec. 19, 2012 at 1:14amProverbs 3:6-7
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
The lack of moral character in America has cause a decay that will continue until we return to Him for our guidance and salvation through His Son Jesus Christ.
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gsp9993
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:44pmSorry folks, can’t take much more of the token professional woman, Ms. Carlson. She adds nothing to the show or to critical thinking. She is the weak link here and should be replaced by Heather Nauert.or Harris Faulkner An occasional replacement for Ms. Carlson is Alysin Camorata is brain dead and an embarrassment to Fox. Both of the main women on this show spend way too much time talking about how touch their lives are and often discuss the lavish details of their well earned vacations.
For their own sake, Fox needs to look deeply at the female leads on the morning show. They are really bad and the reason I do not watch anymore..
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charles116
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:49pmShe needs a case of CocoaPuffs bad, REAL bad.
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PlowMan
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:13pmI don’t see it that way. She brings a touch of “home” to the show. I am sure the ladies like her sensitive side as well. There is nothing wrong with feeling a little overwhelmed at this trying time. You must not have kids if you have a hardened heart in light of this event. Carlson is smart as well, your just blinded by her looks.
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macpappy
Dec. 17, 2012 at 3:39pmSo, a little emphathy from the media is a bad thing? I no longer watch FOX for news because they pretty much give you everything but news. Oh, if you want the GOP talking points, or the last obnoxous thing some politician said, or if you just want luke warm stories about absolutely nothing; they are your go to channel. However, they also offer some other things that other news stations don’t.
Like the other prespective of the argument, no other station does that. They are also friendly to the Religious Right or actually Christians in general. Since Christians seem to be the whipping boy for the moment, I like FOX taking up for them. This woman is a touch of honest emotion, and honest anger at her religion being thrown to the ash heap.
I don’t relate to her religion, but I stand by her right to express her grief as she chooses, and to defend her religion.
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Wisdom7
Dec. 17, 2012 at 7:00pmYeah everyone should be robots…
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SaintzOfAk
Dec. 17, 2012 at 8:10pmPlastic!….it’s the number 1 selling product of all time.
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AbrahamsSheepdog
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:42pmWe can see evil everywhere, all over everything. Life loses value 1 million times a year in the US. If a right to watch smutt and murder & or corrupt her offspring are the majority non raising our children now. Everyone screwed up kicking God out & letting these lunatics take over.
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dirtypolitics
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:39pmWhen leaders especially during elections don’t condemn call of violence from sectors of citizenry because they are members of their voting block, there is something wrong in this country.
Remember “there will be blood”?
And then try to take advantage of the tragedy by using it to advance their agenda.
Despicable!
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YAHSHUARULES
Dec. 17, 2012 at 11:38pmAll part of the Agenda: The only religion that the left has a problem with is biblical Christianity. The left accommodates Islam, Buddah, Witches, Druids, Satanists because the values this country was founded on were Judeo/Chrstian. The left knows what made us a great people and they don’t want it – they want to tear down and corrupt everything decent and moral:
The breakdown of society in general is by design to take down a Judeo/Christian country from within to make the country so corrupt it stinks and drive us in a direction designed to destroy us. There is a deep cancer rotting us and there is no area this has not touched thanks to Fabians, Frankfurt School, Antonio Gramsci, Mattechine Society and Committee’s of Correspondence, Alinkski and his ilk – all the way to Obama.
If you don’t know who all these people are and how they fit the Agenda to take America down
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AmericaMustBeFree
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:38pmAmen! When we push God out of our lives we get a wake up call! Rest assured,everyone of these little children are in the arms of God. And those teachers who died protecting their students did the ultimate sacrafice. God Bless America!
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PlowMan
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:13pmAmen!
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fox6366
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:32pmThe Holy Bible says “I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes the the Father(GOD) but by ME (JESUS). Those who do not want God and Jesus in their lives have that right, but just remember that one day they too will face GOD (and if they have not accepted Jesus as their savior and Lord of their life) then they will be cast into Hell. No second chances after death. We all will die someday. Are you ready to meet God. If not, today is the day of salvation for you. You do not have a promise of tomorrow. By the way, the only way you can take that next breath is because God allows it. He does not have to.
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Stephencj
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:13pmThe Bible doesn’t say you go to Heaven or Hell when you die. That idea was taken from Pagan religions. The Bible says that Heaven is where God lives, and the word “Hell” in our translated versions had several words that had different meanings in the original language. It essentially, is the ground. When you die, you are dead and buried. The promise, and the “good news”, is that someday Jesus will come back make the new Jerusalem and reign. Those who followed Jesus’ teachings will get to be a part of that. Those who didn’t, will have second death and just cease to exist.
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hatchetjob
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:18pmI agree, and I also want to add that God doesn’t send anyone to hell (as some people think), we send ourselves to hell by the choice to not have anything to do with Him. God won’t take us to heaven kicking and screaming.
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SquidVetOhio
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:55pm@STEPHENCJ
Wow… just wow. You are wrong on so many levels.
“To be absent with the body to be present with the Lord”
The rich man in Luke chp 16 story of Lazarus. After the rich man died, Jesus said, “he lift up his eyes being in torments”
I could go on and on and on…. You might want to actually read the Bible before posting what you think it does and don’t say.
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Alessandre
Dec. 17, 2012 at 3:13pm@StephenCJ – the Bible including, Jesus’ parable of Lazarus & the rich man (Lk 16:22-31), Jesus’ response to the repentant thief: “This day thou shalt be with me in Paradise” (Luke 23:43); Paul’s desire to be absent from the body that he might be present to the Lord (2 Corinthians 5), John’s vision: Rev. 20:4-6; “I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne” (Rev 6:9-11) as well as other passages are the sources from which Christians understand that our souls are w/ God or in Hell once we die &, at the second (final) judgement, our bodies are raised.
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pdw
Dec. 17, 2012 at 4:17pmIf the Bible does not say people go to heaven when they die then I suppose Jesus was telling lies?
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SonOfThunder
Dec. 17, 2012 at 4:23pm@stephen…sounds like he gets his info from the watchtower…probably a Jehovah’s Witness. Any way you are much mistaken. Repent and put your trust in Jesus alone.
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macpappy
Dec. 17, 2012 at 4:29pmPDW
Well, actually…..there is no direct written or spoken word of Christ anywhere in the Bible. Every instance is of another relating what Christ said. All the books and stories are told by others than Christ.
Just saying.
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BODYBAG
Dec. 17, 2012 at 5:03pm@MACPAPPY
Posted on December 17, 2012 at 4:29pm
PDW
Well, actually…..there is no direct written or spoken word of Christ anywhere in the Bible.
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Uh…not true. Jesus Christ directly speaks plenty in the Book.
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PlowMan
Dec. 17, 2012 at 6:10pmWell said, squid. Stephen, You really need to read the Bible. Scripture talks about hell being the absents of God. Also it says eternal gnashing of teeth. The disciples misunderstood Jesus when He said He was going to establish a kingdom. They thought he was going to establish one here on earth. They were very disappointed when he was killed. I don’t think it really sunk in until after Jesus went back to heaven. I think you are making the same mistake.
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neverending
Dec. 17, 2012 at 10:16pm@FOX6366 – so true and so well said.
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Locked
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:26pmAfter several of his responses about this tragedy, I cannot find myself looking at Huckabee with anything but disgust. “Oh, I didn’t mean stopping daily prayer caused this… but that’s totally what I keep saying…”
“… it’s far more than just taking prayer or Bible reading out of the schools. It’s the fact that people sue a city so we aren’t confronted with a manger scene or a Christmas Carol. That lawsuits are filed to remove a cross that’s a memorial to fallen soldiers. Churches and Christian-owned businesses are told to surrender their values under the edict of government orders to provide tax-funded abortion pills. We carefully and intentionally stop saying things are sinful and we call them disorders. Sometimes, he even say they’re normal. And to get to where… we have to abandon bedrock moral truths, then [we] ask, “Well, where was God?” And I respond that, as I see it, we’ve escorted Him right out of our culture and we’ve marched Him off the public square, and then we express our surprise that a culture without Hm actually reflects what it’s become.”
THAT is why Huckabee thinks this shooting was justified. Because an all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-loving God wants to see kids killed and refuses to intervene because we have a separation of church and state and don’t see it as the government’s place to force religion upon its citizens.
Seriously, the man is filth and using dead children to get into the spotlight.
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SteveinSC
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:47pmGov. Huckabee didn’t say the shooting was justified by taking prayer out of schools or God out of the public square. Something like this shooting can never be justified! He was merely saying that when you stop teaching moral absolutes, some people lose they’re way. They can’t tell right from wrong any more, because we aren’t teaching it. Today’s kids are taught that truth is subjective. That something is right because it’s legal and it’s legal because that’s what the majority wants. But legal isn’t moral (i.e., right) In Nazi Germany it was legal to kill millions of Jews, handicapped, impaired, or otherwise undesirable people. But, it still wasn’t right. We must teach the difference between right and wrong and it doesn’t come from the legislature; it comes from God.
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Locked
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:57pm@Steve
Did… did you even read the quote of his I posted? No, he said things happen BECAUSE of the things he listed (several of which were lies, I might add).
“He was merely saying that when you stop teaching moral absolutes, some people lose they’re way. They can’t tell right from wrong any more, because we aren’t teaching it.”
And even when you teach moral absolutes, people do terrible things. This is simply the most recent horrific event, but there have been school shootings all throughout the history of the US. The simple fact is, as much as Huckabee is trying to blame this on “taking God out of the public square,” (his own words!) eventually you’ll just have some bad eggs who go off the deep end. There’s no deeper meaning to it. There’s no ultimate lesson to be learned. There’s no preventing every atrocity. These things will happen, and forcing religious beliefs upon people will not stop them.
Neither will the government banning guns.
And neither will Huckabee lying to get people morally outraged and get himself in the spotlight more often.
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one.dakine.howlie
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:01pmWow… You’re so off the mark on the what is being discussed. He’s saying that God has become a “no-no” topic on our country. We can’t talk about Christianity, we can’t include it into any political discussion, we can’t allow our kids to see or hear it… If we raise generation after generation in homes and public systems that give no moral compass then why should we complain when thing like this happen? According to Mr. Lanza this could have been completely okay thing to do. How can we expect our children to look forward to the future if we teach them there’s no future to look forward to? Even if we teach them, “Maybe there’s a God and maybe there’s not.” we leave it up to chance of whether a child finds values or not.
Obviously we all have the freedom to choose in this country whether to believe in God or not. However that doesn’t mean we get to choose whether there are consequences or not. I can confidently say that there is a God. He knows and loves each one of us individually. He created us and brought us to this earth for a reason. He’s shown us how we can remember He exists and how we can know why we’re hear. He’s given us the freedom to choose good or evil. He’s told us the consequences of both and they’re not consequences He’s created just because. He’s merely teaching us the truth of how and why the universe works. One choice leads to one consequence, while another leads to another. God didn’t “allow” these children to die.
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Locked
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:20pm@One
“If we raise generation after generation in homes and public systems that give no moral compass then why should we complain when thing like this happen?”
These. Things. Happened. Throughout. History.
They are nothing new. Obviously forcing religious beliefs upon someone didn’t stop them from happening before. Why would it start working now?
Do you know why Rome started persecuting Christians heavily as enemies were knocking at their doors? Because they blamed the lack of belief in their national gods as the reason for their empire’s demise, and sought to take out Christians who refused to believe. Ironically, this is one step from what Huckabee is saying. History repeats itself and some of our fellow Christians are acting like the Roman pagans.
“According to Mr. Lanza this could have been completely okay thing to do.”
Where did you decide this? A much more logical answer is that he knew it was a “bad” thing to do, but just didn’t care. Or thought the notoriety would be worth it.
“How can we expect our children to look forward to the future if we teach them there’s no future to look forward to?”
Do only Christian parents teach their kids there is a future worth looking forward to? (Hint: OF COURSE NOT). Don’t throw up strawman arguments willy-nilly.
“God didn’t “allow” these children to die. ”
According to Huckabee, though, they wouldn’t have if we had mangers on government land and forced the Bible to be taught. BS
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SUNTZU
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:57pmThe thing to remember is.
God answers all prayer.
sometimes the answer is NO.
4truth2all
Dec. 17, 2012 at 10:34pmYo Locked;
Do you read the bible ???
The history of Israel is full of examples of what happened when they “FORGOT” their God. It is no different in this day.
I have a book by Erwin Lutzer called When A Nation Forgets God … he speaks of what happened to Nazi Germany… I suggest you read it. It’s a good read.
He ( Huckabee) is not talking about forcing anyone to believe … he is talking about a nation that DID and has willingly turned it’s back on God.
I really do not understand the lack of understanding by those that call themselves christians … no wonder the Germans were so decieved … such shallow faith.
“my people parish for lack of knowledge” …
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italy2007
Dec. 18, 2012 at 8:12amYou are one sick individual if you think Mike Huckabee is justifying the killing of innocent children
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Locked
Dec. 18, 2012 at 11:42am@4truth2all
“He ( Huckabee) is not talking about forcing anyone to believe … he is talking about a nation that DID and has willingly turned it’s back on God.”
Read what he said. Seriously, read it. He said that these things happen because school teachers don’t lead prayer in class. Because the government has a separation of church and state. Because Nativity scenes can only be placed on private property OR must share the public sphere.
That, says Huckabee, is why these killings happen. It’s our own fault.
It’s sick. It’s wrong. And it gets him views.
“I really do not understand the lack of understanding by those that call themselves christians … no wonder the Germans were so decieved … such shallow faith.”
I know, right? You have faith in Mike Huckabee. I have faith in Christ.
Huh, the Germans had their faith in a mortal man too. Take a good, long look at who you’re following… from what you’ve written, it’s not God.
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Locked
Dec. 18, 2012 at 11:51am@italy
“You are one sick individual if you think Mike Huckabee is justifying the killing of innocent children”
Let me put this a different way. I say you need to put a sign in your front yard. If you don’t, then it’s your fault that 20 children will die. Oh, you didn’t put up the sign like I told you to? Those children got what they deserved and it’s all because you didn’t listen to me.
It fails on two fronts: 1) One is not related to the other. 2) Even when everyone puts signs in their yard, these things still happen because – see point one.
Huckabee is capitalizing on this atrocity, the same way anti-gun nuts are.
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toledofan
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:26pmThe Huckster is 100% correct. When you look at all the tradegies, in general, and then when you see the onslaught on Christianity and God, the never ending assult on Christmas, the number of babies aborted each year or each day, and the never ending attitude of Hollywood, anything goes, and the perversion and killing that is prevelant on todays video games, you have to wonder why there aren’t more mass killings, death or mayhem? It is sad that at the ensd of the the politicans will rise up and demand that something be done, enough is enough, but, how many babies are killed each day and you never hear a whimper. Maybe a gun wasn’t used but a suction tube or scapel was. Is there any difference? The Democrats have single handedly created the opening of Pandora’s Box and it’s not going to be easy to close it. Until actions are in place to solidify and strengthen the family unit, nothin will change.
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shorelineliz
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:24pmAdam Lanza, like the Aurora, Colorado movie theater shooting needs to be put in context. He was a kid with a mental illness. He was from a broken home. He had access to loaded weaponry. This situation was a ticking time bomb. We need to keep this shooter and shooting in context. We have kids with unresolved grief, anger and loss from their parents divorce. Kids from broken homes are far more likely to “act out” aggressive behavior because they are angry over the broken home. Add in mental illness and loaded weaponry and you have the trifecta of evil. There are many more kids like this in America. We feed our kids HOllywood violence, TV. Movies, Video Games, World of Warcraft, violent lyrics from music songs and videos and we wonder why they “act out” this violence? I don’t wonder. I fully expect it and I fully expect it to continue to escalate. We make kids go through fire and earthquake drills yet we feed them with a daily dose of violence and we don’t expect someone to shoot up schools? We are living in la la land in this country. This shooting is a reflection of a society gorging on violence and lacking the basic common sense to deter the violence it feeds on and promotes. Huge disconnect!
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Locked
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:30pm“Video Games, World of Warcraft,”
World of Warcraft is a videogame. And if you think that counts as “violent” in today’s age, you’re insane. It’s not a shooter game; it’s less violent than “Lord of the Rings.” Conserably less violent than the Bible itself.
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HelloWorld
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:34pmI am not sure I understand the point you are trying to make. As someone in the health field what you say is a given. As a society we have failed. There is no respect, just give me, give me, give me. Not only that, but, we are on our second or third generation of individuals with significant drug issues and absolutely no parenting skills. Some children’s only relief is in the time spent at school where they are fed and cared for and we are failing there as well. I watched a 5 year old fall on the playground with a bloody hand the monitor was not allowed to give him a hug and tell him it would be okay. Do people realize what happens when you fail to hug a child with an injury? Ask Freud he certainly knew. Government intervention is not always the answers yet it can certainly help with the right direction and the right policy. Unfortunately we are seeing years of failed policy, entitlements and poor accountability. If government officials do not hold themselves accountable and hide behind “Lie and Deny” why would anyone follow. These are supposed to be leaders they are anything but that. It is sad and it will come full circle. History repeats itself.
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woody4_rom828
Dec. 18, 2012 at 5:05amUnbelievable. Locked actually states violence in the Bible to make an absurd point? The Bible has been around for 1000′s of years, and guns for centuries. I don’t recall all the massive school shootings back then, but these tragedies are happening more frequently nowadays while kids line up for blocks to get the latest Halo version or Warcraft or the old Doom with simulated gun violence and murder.
Now we spend $39.95 to get on-demand cage fighting. What’s next, gladiators to the death coming soon to a reality TV show?
Lord help us!
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Locked
Dec. 18, 2012 at 11:47am@Woody
“Unbelievable.”
Actually, YOU just made an interesting point. Murders have happened for thousands of years. Are you saying it’s the fault of the Bible?
“The Bible has been around for 1000′s of years, and guns for centuries. I don’t recall all the massive school shootings back then”
Then you’re not looking at history. You think the murder of children is something new? Your lack of knowledge should not be mistaken for these things not happening.
“but these tragedies are happening more frequently nowadays”
False. You -hear- about them more these days. The deadliest school shooting in the US was in the 1920s. Again: try learning history.
“while kids line up for blocks to get the latest Halo version or Warcraft or the old Doom with simulated gun violence and murder. ”
Warcraft is not a first-person shooter. Halo involves killing aliens. Doom involves killing demons (and Hitler, if I remember correctly).
You completely missed my point, by the way. In no way did I say that the Bible is the cause for this. What I said is, just because something is prolific and violent (like the Bible), doesn’t mean that it causes massacres. I’m sorry you needed it spelled out for you.
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Sharon Rose
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:23pmMay God give these families the strength to move forward and bless them all.
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barber2
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:32pmSharon, please don’t use the expression ” move forward ” which has become as trite, as political, and as meaningless as ” we must change .” Just political media theater.
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mermaid7
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:22pmLet’s give Mike Huckabee a big “AMEN!”
The Christian community has allowed the evil atheist poison to erode our society. We don’t blink an eye when we have trash on t.v. instead of good shows anymore. We say it isn’t our business when a U.S. President has sex in the Oval Office and we allow him to stay even though he took advantage of a young woman. We’re not demanding any morals when that leader decides to redefine what “is” is. Polticians get bribed, stuff money in their pockets by K Street, allow unions to dictate law and somehow all get re-elected!
And we allow our young to listen to filth by calling it music by rappers who degrade whites, hispanics and women. We continue to watch late night talk show hosts that insult conservative women polticians.
We don’t get upset when a Christmas manger scene or a Christmas play is overrided by a small group of atheists that really ruins it for everyone. We’re FAR more concerned with women having the “right” to get an abortion and calling it “woman’s rights”, yet cry foul when gov’t. who has to pay for it demands that she gets an ultrasound to remind her that she has another human being inside her.
And last, we re-elect a person who admits that he went to a church for 20 yrs that said 9/11 was our fault and we deserved it. A President that lies about gun smuggling to mexican cartels. A President who accuses his opponent of being responsible for someone’s death with no shred of evidence.
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husky
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:21pmJESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOR IN HIM I WILL TRUST. If the children would have been allowed by the schools to Pray and be covered by the blood of JESUS that morning. The shooter may have never entered the building
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Pnis
Dec. 17, 2012 at 3:49pmThey would have been protected? Then how do you explain all the church shootings that seem to occur? These shootings happened because of a mentally ill man, period. To say that it is because we don’t allow the ten commandments to be posted in public schools is asinine.
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strawberry411a
Dec. 17, 2012 at 7:39pmZip up your fly and we wont have to listen to your mindless PNIS babble.
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Pnis
Dec. 17, 2012 at 7:41pmHey Strawberry! Good to see you back making pointless comments and not addressing anything I wrote!
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strawberry411a
Dec. 17, 2012 at 9:18pmYea nice edit job squirrel. is that how you cowards work?
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strawberry411a
Dec. 17, 2012 at 9:23pmI keep looking for my last post, but apparently I hit home with it and you had it deleted. You coward.
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Pnis
Dec. 17, 2012 at 10:36pmStrawberry- Your comment was probably removed by the moderators because it was laced with profanity and sexual innuendo. It was vulgar and highly inappropriate. I really thought you Christians were above that kind of thing, but I guess not.
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strawberry411a
Dec. 18, 2012 at 2:50amOHHHHHHHH1 Thanks…… PNIS. Community standards moderator. Of course you would n’t do it.
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iampraying4u
Dec. 18, 2012 at 10:25amAdd your comments
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jakartaman
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:20pmWe are on the cusp of GODS wrath.
The innocents of the 1950′s in gone – why?
We had turned our backs on GOD and he has reciprocated – not too hard to understand.
We kill millions of babies through abortion – Automobiles kill more kids than all the guns in the world.
We have turned away from treating mental health – the Dems closed all the mental institutions across the country years ago – we now call them homeless.
We have accepted sports or the central government as our God. God will not provide Obama will – we are in big trouble on all fronts but when God if not in the picture(the good) the void will be filled with evil/satan (the bad)
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Locked
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:32pm“Automobiles kill more kids than all the guns in the world.”
Are you advocating that the government regulate guns as much as vehicles? Or that vehicles stop being regulated? Or… are you just spouting off a soundbite that is a terrible comparison?
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momrules
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:08pmI make no apologies for my love of God and Jesus Christ. I am never ashamed to say I am a Christian. God knows each of us and there will come a time when every human that has ever lived will know Him.
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DEFCON4
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:25pmI’m with you, Mom. That’s why I hold my head up!!
Here’s to holding your head high: http://youtu.be/w8i500NGJsw !
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momrules
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:05pmI remember that song DEFCON…….good to hear it again. Thanks
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copatriots
Dec. 17, 2012 at 3:08pmAfternoon MOM! Good to “see” you! As always, well said and Amen!
My first thought on this article, which I think you will appreciate, A.W.A.N.A. :-)
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momrules
Dec. 17, 2012 at 5:43pmHi Copatriots……..So sorry, I guess my mind is running on slow today, too much happening maybe. I guess you need to explain to me what you meant.
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copatriots
Dec. 17, 2012 at 5:54pmOops…..sorry Mom, my bad. Thought you’d be familiar with AWANA Christian programs which stands for Approved Workman Are Not Ashamed.
awana.org
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awana
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momrules
Dec. 17, 2012 at 7:22pmI had never heard of this group but I checked out the link and it sounds great. Thanks for the explanation and the information Copatriots.
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JSherrillj
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:08pmThere is no political solution.
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AmericanStrega
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:23pm“To our troubled evolution
Have no faith in constittions
There is no bloody revolution
We are spirits
In the material world….”
Yep, Let’s invoke Sting and his socialistic proverbs.
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todd147
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:07pmIn Luke Chapter 24 I believe around verse 44 or so, The Risen Jesus is speaking with his disciples before he ascends. He says that these things which were spoken of by the prophets must come to pass. What are “these things”. Well the Bible spells them out. There are many, but to mention a few. People will have lost there natural affection, they will be lovers of themselves etc. What we are seeing in America is a nation that has rejected God and His Son Jesus Christ. I believe that when the tragedy that occurred Jesus was right there in that school receiving the children unto Himself. As they closed there eyes in this world, Christ was embracing them in the the next. We also have to be easy on the politicians. Because thats all they are. God said that it is up to you and you alone to be salt and light in a lost and dying world. He was speaking to the Church. Not politicians. Not talk show hosts. You and I who call ourselves Sons of God. I’m not pushing anything on anyone. It’s my job as a Christ follower to lead others to Christ. It’s His Job to lead them to salvation.
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taxpro4u03
Dec. 17, 2012 at 12:55pmWe can know what we’re dealing with simply by how people ‘BEHAVE.’ – Jefferson believed (IMO) along with other Founders, that any nation WITHOUT moral conviction as a basic premise of FREEDOM – mankind ‘couldn’t’ control himself — individually, i.e. ‘all men ARE created EQUAL’ – in that regard. The ‘gubmint’ cannot control that which it did not create. – getting a ‘PASS’ or ‘complying’ simply because a body politic has made a ‘law’ doesn’t obsolve the individual from being CIVIL. — some ‘are’ simply ‘deranged,’ — doesn’t excuse it — justify it etc — that is observable on the PHYSICAL/mental level – do the RIGHT thing – even IF it goes against ‘mandates…’ :-) I believe that’s what MLK, Gandhi, Mother Theresa etc were about… Opinions vary. FACTS DON’T. — The bleating of the SHEEP never saved it from the knife.
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jwpowers41
Dec. 17, 2012 at 12:53pmThe atheist wanted God out of school, well you reap what you sow. every since God left our country
immorality has taken over. Permissive behavior by perverts and criminals and our society lenient
Judges not handing proper sentences, especially for child molesters.. We are in for a rude awakening
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DeavonReye
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:04pmI’m sorry, but I thought that most people in this country professed christianity! Do you actually believe that because the judicial system made a rule against having SCHOOL led professions of faith [students are free to hold their own meetings and pray as they wish] were MORE valid to your god than the majority of christians who pray for “the protection of their kids”????? THINK about what you say before posting!
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ChildofJesus
Dec. 17, 2012 at 12:51pmWhy would I be ashamed?
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Polarized America
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:54pm.seriously !…..I don’t think i’ve ever heard a Christian say —->
QUIT BEING ASHAMED THAT WE BELIEVE IN GOD
unless that person has admitted to being a ” hypocrite”….i don’t know ????????
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gyro
Dec. 17, 2012 at 12:50pmdid obama in any of his speaches mention praying to god?
I did not hear it may of missed it ?
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freenj
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:10pmNo, Obama didn’t mention God at all.
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pragmaticpatriot
Dec. 17, 2012 at 6:31pmUncle O speaks whats in his heart and if you listen its a V I Lenin speech at half speed
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iampraying4u
Dec. 18, 2012 at 10:32amallah is the Gog of obumma
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IMCHRISTIAN
Dec. 17, 2012 at 12:48pmGov. Huckabee, well stated and may God be with us all as life is short and eternity is forever.
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Hydra
Dec. 17, 2012 at 12:48pmPraying in schools will not stop this from happening, stop trying to push your BS religion on people who do not want it. Some people are just F’d up in the head. No amount of made up nonsense will prevent that.
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gyro
Dec. 17, 2012 at 12:52pmthey believe Hydra let them believe
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jwpowers41
Dec. 17, 2012 at 12:54pmStop pushing your atheistic crap on us!!!!!!!!
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HelloWorld
Dec. 17, 2012 at 12:58pmHydra – May God bless you and keep you safe.
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IMCHRISTIAN
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:01pmHydra why are you on this website if you do not want an answer? God be with us all as life is short for all of us and eternity is forever.
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shorelineliz
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:15pmIN Adam Lanza we saw a trifecta of potential violence: broken home, mental illness, access to loaded weaponry. All of this together is a recipe for violence. We saw the same thing in Aurora, Colorado. ADam Lanza had an argument two days prior at Sandy Hook with school staff of administrators. There were plenty of warning signs but people either don’t know the warning signs well enough or chose to ignore them. There have been 30 school shootings since Columbine. It is time to get serious about protecting our schools. We have fire and earthquake drills. It is now time to ACt to protect our schools. They are potential places of violence. I went to school in the 70s and violence erupted all the time. WE have a culture of violence where our children feed on violent Tv, MOvies, Video Games, World of Warcraft and we have stupid parents with their weapons loaded and not locked up. We have kids from broken homes with unresolved anger, grief and loss. Adam Lanza had the Trifecta. He was a ticking time bomb as are others in our society. Time to wake up.
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barber2
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:40pmHYDRA: Are you just another angry, young, atheist male ?
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batteryclerk
Dec. 17, 2012 at 1:43pm1 Corinthians 2:14
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Apple Bite
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:22pmReality is, non-believers opinions don’t matter. It’s high time folk like yourselves realize that faith is a personal relationship and it has no bearing on what anyone else does with their life.
Kind of like having a spouse. You don’t share your spouse unless you’re a swinger and simply don’t mind being the cuckold.
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HelloWorld
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:44pmApplebite- very few people believe in nothing. But they are concerned that their lack of beliefs (which is a belief in itself) be honored by the believers. Hence, your manger comment. How is a manger actually offending anyone. In fact, the crucible is exactly what Christmas is and not all of the hyped up shopping Not only that, it is not the most important Christian day. You are right, faith is a personal relationship with our God. So is the belief that none of this matters. So is being gay, and so on and so on. The difference is it brings us together as a community of individuals with common goals. To be a better person. What the individuals are commenting on, on this website is exactly that. You example of swingers I imagine would not really cross the mind as an example on this website. Hence again, your private right – hopefully children are not involved.
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HelloWorld
Dec. 17, 2012 at 2:50pmApplebite – Accountability dictates an apology. I got the manger comment confused with another individual. The remainder of my comment stands as written.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Dec. 17, 2012 at 12:46pmI hold faith in God and Jesus completely, and declare them by the testimony of them in my life and by my life. I am not perfect, yet they have allowed me to find the way by Jesus to overcome so much that has been a negative in my life.
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SimpleTruths
Dec. 17, 2012 at 5:32pmGood for you but don’t believe for a second that everyone that doesn’t share your faith is a bad person. Take me for example.
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goahead.makemyday
Dec. 17, 2012 at 12:31pmAll I can say is this
2 Chronicles 7:14
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trueamerican40
Dec. 17, 2012 at 12:43pmAbsolutely agree. God is patient and full of mercy but time is running out for America. People like Odumbo have an outward appearance of being Godly but inside they are ravenous wolves seeking to devour anyone who calls upon the name of the Lord.
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Maji
Dec. 17, 2012 at 12:57pmThis a tragedy and have such sympathy for these people
and I hope this will happen never again!
That said I’m more afraid of the possibilities of
Obama style governance than the chances of things
like this! This is shunned by the masses…
Obama socialism is embraced!!…which like
Other regimes mixer millions.
of governance than an event
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Welcome Black Carter
Dec. 17, 2012 at 6:04pmThe democrats voted against God three times on the convention floor. Most people have forgotten it or thought it not that significant. His favor has been lifted from this country in so many ways.
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iampraying4u
Dec. 18, 2012 at 10:35amdid the demarats not boo God
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