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Here’s the Heartbreaking Story Behind That Tragically Iconic Photo From the Sandy Hook Shooting: ‘It Kills’

Dec. 18, 2012 12:42pm Erica Ritz

Victoria Sotos Sister Carlee Describes Symbolic Photo, Family Remembers Hero Teacher

(Photo via CBS News)

A number of the photos from the aftermath of the Sandy Hook shooting have become enshrined in our minds as symbols of the event. Played over and over on television news reels, no one who’s seen them will ever forget the sight.

One of the photos is of national hero Victoria Soto’s sister Carlee, her hand pressed to her heart and unbelievable pain on her face as she gets the news of her sister’s death on a cell phone.

Carlee Soto (Photo: AP)

For those who aren’t aware, Victoria (also known as “Vicki”) Soto was the first grade teacher who died after putting herself “between the children and the gunman.”

New reports indicate that she was able to hide some of the students as 20-year-old Adam Lanza approached. A number later escaped the school, having to pass by their deceased teacher, and found refuge at a nearby grandfather’s house.

Here are a few photos of Vicki, provided by her family:

Vicki Soto (Photo: ABC News)

(Photo via CBS)

(Photo via CBS News)

“It’s like a reminder of that moment all over again, and it’s– it kills,” Carlee Soto said of the symbolic photo of her receiving the unimaginable news to CBS.

Struggling to continue, she and her family hold on to Vicki’s courage.

“We heard at one point that they found some people hiding in a closet and all of us said, ‘Vicki would never be hiding in a closet, she would be out there protecting those babies,’” her mother added.

And she was absolutely right.

CBS News has more:

Diana and Robert Licata had a son in Vicki Soto’s class, and he told his parents how his 27-year-old teacher hustled them against the far wall, away from the range of the gunman. When Lanza broke in and started opening fire at the students, he said Soto put herself in front of the hail of bullets.

“She was an absolutely amazing teacher. She just was so young and so full of life, and educating just got her so excited, and teaching those children is what she loved to do,” Diana Licata said, crying as she spoke.

According to the New York Post, Vicki Soto’s parents, brother, and two younger sisters will bury her Wednesday.

CBS News has more from the Licata family:

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MeeMaw24
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 9:16pm
I saw this on the news and right then and there I knew that it was not good, I felt this girls pain and so wanted to comfort her..this will be in my mind for years…God comfort her and keep her close.

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- red_white_blue2
  Posted on December 19, 2012 at 1:03pm
  This picture is like a nail driven into the heart of all that connect so deeply to this story because of the children. Victoria is surely a saint in Heaven today! God Bless You Victoria, and Thank You!
  
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blue_rain
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 8:26pm
Criminals will always find away to get guns. Even Eric Holder knows that one. The first few moments of such an horrific event often will tell the outcome. We do not always live in a very nice world. It is time every sane adult to take classes, learn how to safely handle a fire arm and learn to take care of themselves to the best of their ability in such times. I am so sorry for the victims and their families and my prayers are with them. We should be standing together as a nation demanding safe schools whatever that may take. Banning guns will only empower those that have access to them. If a pistol packing ma’ or pop was in a public place and a someone would start firing, believe me a good Samaritan would put an end to it and there would be less causalities or perhaps none. Bad guys would think twice before open fire. But it is also the responsibility for gun owners to keep guns out of the reach of children and those that are not responsible to handle a firearm; and there should be laws to penalize those who can be proven negligence and allowed a firearm to fall in the hands of those that do harm to others or themselves.. It saddens me to see the organized signs and protesters stepping on our rights to bear fire arms. Again; my prayers go out to the victims and families.

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uptickusa
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 7:37pm
Maybe it’s time to have someone in every school trained in handling a firearm in the event that a tragic thing like this happens again-I realize it means having another weapon in the school but maybe if that someone was available they could have minimized the damage I know I sound like a gun lover but I am not- I just Don’t like seeing innocent children used as target practice-God give their parents the courage to cope and let these sweet angels pray for those who must live on a planet with fear.

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ellietoo
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 7:34pm
I realize the media love to play photos like the ones of the families the day of the shooting but I think it is really tacky. It is an invasion of their privacy at a time in their lives that should be shown some respect. No one seems to know the meaning of respect anymore.

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- emoore54
  Posted on December 19, 2012 at 8:02am
  My question is this, Why would her sister rush to be on TV? Have we become so addicted to “15 minutes” of fame? Parents of these children have been on one show or another. Again I ask, Why? I guess I am old school, if my child, daughter, sister had been murdered, the LAST place I would choose to be, is a TV studio being played by some ass of a newsreader.
  
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- ConnConservative
  Posted on December 19, 2012 at 9:32am
  I found it despicable that Gayle king & Nora were sitting in Newtown as if they were vultures waiting for more tidbits to exploit! They actually looked as if they were at a parade, televising live. Their insatiable manipulation of the grief of the masses is horrendous!
  
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FatPolice
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 5:50pm
Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13

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- bigdaddyt46
  Posted on December 19, 2012 at 5:55am
  AMEN to that this beautiful woman(inside and out) willingly gave her life so her “babies” could live.
  God bless all in this situatio, and show his healing hand.
  
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barrygoldwater
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 5:42pm
It’s nearly 2013 and I don’t like my country anymore. I really don’t.

I think it’s time to replace the Statue of Liberty with a giant rusted iron monument to Snoookie.

This nation has gone from a place that was unique in the world, where achievement and success were prized to a place where halfwits are given access to Call of Duty: Black Ops and their parents guns.

Lady LIberty has turned into a fat whore with a SNAP card in one hand and a prescription for Valtrex in the other.

The most disgusting part of this tragedy is that public schools will continue to practice “lockdowns” in which teachers lock the door and turn off the lights as if a piece of crap murderer were a Mormon Missionary who will go away if no one answers the door.

RIP America. What’s left of you sucks.

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- spfoam1
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 6:10pm
  You better give up and move to Moscow then. I’m going to stick around for the turkey shoot.
  
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- Bush Hating Conervatives make me sick
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 6:28pm
  First God bless the friends and families.. Now they’re home with the Good lord!
  
  I’m bipolar, and I play call of duty! I never have the urge after playing to go out and kill people. We all have FREE WILL! No one can stop that, we’re free to do what we want! Sure the laws are in place to prevent us from doing things, but if you’re a EVIL Person, the laws won’t stop you!!
  
  Are we the same country we were even 5 years ago! NO
  
  Are we still the greatest country ever! YES
  
  Is this great country still God’s gift, heaven on earth!! YES SIR.
  
  Maybe you should go to China, I think you’d have a better appreciation of the USA
  
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- gothope
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 7:14pm
  Keep takin your meds.
  
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RinkyDink34
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 5:38pm
Very Sad;
if only these sick demented killers would kill themselves first.

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Atomic
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:58pm
Soto is a hero. Unfortunately, she was put in a disastrous situation. No one, and nothing can guarantee safety, but to allow sensitive areas to be COMPLETELY DEFENSELESS IS UNCONSCIONABLE… Its not like madmen have never targeted schools before…

All schools need armed security… Having teachers throw themselves in front of a hail of bullets is not a good plan… Who ever decided that CT schools should not have armed security, those people are MORONS… AND HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS.

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- Female
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 6:34pm
  “Better to ask forgiveness, than permission”
  
  What if one of these teachers or school employees chose to disobey the law and hide a gun somewhere in their office?
  
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- Carol in Indy
  Posted on December 19, 2012 at 8:07am
  Female,
  The “”what if”" of your senerio is ……. the teacher would have been fired for hiding a weapon in the class. Could you imagine a student discovering the hiding spot? All children are curious.
  Your “what if ” is moronic.
  
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- rEt_fiELdoP
  Posted on December 19, 2012 at 11:41am
  @ CAROL IN INDY
  
  Your choice of words of “moronic” is questionable considering you assumed “that” spot wouldn’t be secured as in “locked.” Specificity…..
  
  There is an ISD in Texas which mandates all teachers will hold a CHL and WEAR their guns (concealed) while on school property. It is POLICY… I’d be willing to bet this District will begin receiving lots of positive attention in the near future
  
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wkan
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:50pm
You cannot be but effected by this story. This woman was a hero buy any definition of the word. Often its asked could you act in the same way given the same situation. The truth is yes. The term hero and heroic often are used too much and interchangably and its my experience having been trained and mentored by heroic individuals who I doubt ever considered themselves heroes because via their skill they just performed at a such a high level. So what makes a hero. Besides chance what makes the marine dive on the grenade or this woman move toward a crazed gunman as a human shield? Its rather simple really the hero sees nothing heroic in their actions its just that they are the last best option in a situation they could never precieve before hand. Heroes so often are the last option. This woman I am pretty sure had no idea if she could of or couldn’t of did what she did until it was the only option available. It is something we all have in us. You have to admire her courage I just find it hard not to be choked up by that and how some small children will have a life because she had the courage to be the last option.

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- AmericanPatriot
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 11:26pm
  Agreed.
  
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AllAmericanGirl22
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:22pm
What an amazing act of heroism. R.I.P. Vicki. God Bless the families who are suffering.

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california_red
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:16pm
stop the murder porn. All of it. The photos, the interviews of victims, all of the attention is part of what drives these nuts. I don’t care about the murder and I want the victims to have peace without a media sideshow.

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- Objectivist_John_Galt
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:25pm
  Allow these teachers to arm themselves so they never again have to put themselves between a crazy person and the children without an equalizer. You can sign the petition for it here http://wh.gov/RJ5d
  The gun control petition has already surpassed the amount needed for the white house to address it. If you truly want to stop these things from happening then quit talking and start doing. This petition should be far more popular but I guess it goes to show the commies are more organized than the individualists.
  
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- TMOverbeck
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:28pm
  I heartily agree… unfortunately, this crap may be with us for a while. I remember the aftermath of the Jon Benet Ramsey murder, when the tabloids plastered her face all over their covers for months on end.
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:53pm
  Allow teachers to have firearms in their classrooms? How long will it be before a disturbed teacher shoots her whole class? ((“Now line up, boys and girls, we’re going to have a new drill. . . .” followed by “We couldn’t believe it, she loved them so and called them ‘her kids,’ we just saw no signs at all. . . .”) Or before a curious kid finds an unsecured gun in his teacher’s desk, with the safety accidentally left off, with the same result? I’m not a real strong advocate of gun control, but it’s idiotic to suggest that the way to reduce gun violence is more guns.
  
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- JediKnight
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:11pm
  It’s not idiotic. We’re seeing more guns = less crime everyday.
  
  Part of the training when giving teachers firearms would be that they’re required to carry them at all times. I don’t want any gun left in a desk drawer because then you don’t have it when you need it (say, out on the playground). The gun would need to be kept on their person at all times. Shoulder, hip, ankle holster. I really don’t care what kind, as long as it’s on them.
  
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- Objectivist_John_Galt
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:34pm
  @ LLOYD DRAKO
  
  More guns doesn’t lead to less violence?? I seam to remember a brutal dictator that was killing Jews by the millions but more guns didn’t stop him…oh wait, it did. Switzerland mandates most of its citizens to own guns and mandates them to be trained with them, and they have the lowest per capita crime rate in the world. They were also not invaded by the brutal dictator next door. So your argument of more guns wont stop gun violence is flawed. It works to deter criminals both foreign and domestic. When was the last time you heard of a crazy person walking into a police station and being able to pull off a mass killing? The reason the crazies don’t try this in police station’s is obvious. They are cowards and go to where they will meet the least amount of resistance.
  Also, trying to argue your point with hypothetical’s is silly. A teacher could do as you suggested now if they were so inclined. It would still have nothing to do with “if” teachers were allowed to conceal carry at school.
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 5:20pm
  The guns that stopped Hitler were wielded by the allied armies, you dolt. In Nazi Germany, there were plenty of people who owned guns and used them for target practice, hunting and other virile activities that were positively encouraged by the regime. The Nazis did not seem to feel endangered by this.
  
  A disturbed teacher required to carry a gun at all times would be even more dangerous than one required to keep it locked in his or her desk. With millions of teachers out there, you know there have to be three or four at least. . . .
  
  Switzerland is not America. It is a reasonably civilized European country which not only requires (male) citizens to have guns, but stringently regulates when and where they can be carried, loaded and used. There, a gun is just a gun. Unfortunately, in America, it is guns + “gun fetishism” that causes the trouble.
  
  An armed lunatic walked into a police station in Detroit and opened fire not long ago. Have you not heard of “suicide by police?” It happens fairly often. In a sense, many mass shootings, whether at malls, schools, police stations, theatres, or anywhere, fall into the same category.
  
  The Blaze published a piece yesterday about how 1929 was the peak year for mass shootings in America. Think about it. Many of these were gangland massacres with fully automatic weapons, which were banned for most of us in 1934–after which, use of such guns in large-scale massacres dropped to zero. Reasonable gun control works.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 6:32pm
  You’re wrong. The Nazis banned personal firearms and forcefully confiscated as many as they possibly could.
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 7:42pm
  Not so. Weimar Germany had briefly experimented with banning all personal ownership of firearms, but relaxed its restrictions late in the 1920s. The Nazis went further. By 1939, more Germans owned and carried firearms than when Hitler came to power. Naturally, many did so as members of the various Nazi auxiliary organizations. In any case, it was only handguns, not long guns, that required permits. Only Jews were flat out prohibited from having guns, but by 1939 half of Germany’s Jews had already taken the hint and left the country. Guns would not have done them much good anyway. I suppose armed Jews could have slowed the Holocaust, as some did especially in Poland and Belarus, but they could hardly have stopped it. You all need to stop fantasizing and falling back on the “argumentum ad Hitlerum.”
  
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bluehen
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:04pm
@AVENGERK

So, you’re saying I am bitter about my father not staying around? Is that your dog whistle for calling me black.. Anyway, I digress. As for abortion, its fine if: The baby isn’t wanted, heaven forbid there is an obvious birth defect, or the end result of a rape or incest. Just my opinion and guess what, thats the only one that matters in my family (besides my wife). As for a “blob” in your stomach as you say… is a blob a person?

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- bluehen
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:52pm
  @SEEKEREMERALD
  
  LOL. . You honestly believe that this sick kid went to this school because it was a gun free zone? Man, you can’t be that stupid. He could have gone to a school in an area that wasn’t gun free and still would have had the same outcome because nobody caries weapons except for cops. Your argument is a straw man if I have ever seen one. So, your answer to this is to arm the teachers? So they can mistakingly shoot a child if g-d forbid this happens again? Just like I said, trained professionals who do this for a living kill innocent people everyday, and you think that show an efing art teacher how to hold a glock will solve the problem. Man, you have a very scary scary mind.
  
  As for your point concerning drunk drivers, again another straw man argument. People don’t decide to get drunk and kill people after a night of partying. People do, however, look at their guns and say, yup, I am going to kill people today. Chew on that cake eater.
  
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- macpappy
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 5:22pm
  Bluehen
  Do you ever have an original thought? Is your job to come to a conservative site and pester the posters. I mean, you don’t offer any input, just call names, and make stupid remarks.
  Whats your angle boy?
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 6:24pm
  Did the shoe fit BLUEHEN? Hmm “dog whistle”? Nah..I’d have included some throw away line about crack or “baby mama” or some other urban vernacular if I thought you were black. Sensitive little thing aren’t you sport?
  
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bluehen
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:59pm
@AVENGERK

You simpleton.. The burglar didn’t even have a weapon, so of course he wasn’t going to move until the cops got there…. In all of your infinite wisdom, lets just say the burglar had a weapon, and shot at the homeowner. Then, the homeowner shot back and hit one of his own family (ya know, bc accidents happen). Then what? Would you be using them as the crux of your argument. Like I said, guns are certainly a problem in this country, but you backwards a$$ slab of country trash wouldn’t understand that. You’re probably just waking up from your “huffing paint” bender that lasted 2 days.

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- jungle J
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:09pm
  you are arguing with a progressive operative…one of your kind albeit closeted.
  
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- thejackal
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:22pm
  Blugum…… Shut it maggot….
  
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- SeekerEmerald
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:40pm
  Guns are not, and have never been the problem. Lowlife pieces of human trash are the problem, and they always will be, guns or no guns. I’ll gladly turn in my guns as soon as all the criminals are unable to commit their offenses.
  
  Successful defensive uses of guns FAR FAR outnumber criminals offensive uses of guns, and this is a fact even if you choose to close your eyes to it. You are of course free to deny it, but that does not make it any less true.
  
  When you open your eyes to what is really happening in the real world, you’ll understand.
  
  The most dangerous places in the USA are the places where gun control is at the highest levels. Criminals prefer unarmed victims.
  
  Idiots like you are always trying to blame guns for the problem. This is like trying to blame cars for drunk drivers. It’s not the car that caused the accident, it was the drunk guy. It wasn’t the fault of the booze, either. The guy chose to drink the amount he did, and chose to drive. Humans are the cause of all of this. It’s not the car, the booze, the gun, etc.
  
  What do all these mass-shootings have in common? They ALL were in places where law abiding citizens are not permitted to be armed.
  
  It bears repeating: If a gun-free zone is safer, then put a sign in front of your house proclaiming that there are no guns present. The reason you will NOT do this is because you KNOW that this is an invitation for criminals, as they now know that it is SAFE for them to victimi
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:59pm
  JUNGLE J, Read Bluehen’s phraseology. He is a recognizable retread from here.
  
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- bluehen
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:09pm
  @RJJINGADSDEN
  
  WTF is retread?
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:30pm
  BLUEHEN, Bwahahahahahahaha, that’s right. You don’t even know what your glans is!
  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/private-equity-firm-sell-its-stake-in-gun-manufacturer-after-shooting-watershed-event/#comment-4621641
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:40pm
  BLUEHEN, Pardon the mistake. My bad, got you and another troll mixed up.
  Have you heard of retreading a tire? You make changes and get more distance out of it. Think about it.
  
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- bluehen
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:45pm
  @RJJINGADSDEN
  
  Still don’t follow you pal. But I guess for someone like me who doesn’t live in a trailer and huff paint all day, it would be hard to. Just relax, take your little trailer out for a ride and enjoy the sunset on cheap white trash.. I am sure it can only do you good.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:46pm
  BLUE…
  
  A retread is a type of tire used on 18 wheelers that’s infamous for having minimal integrity.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 5:04pm
  EAST, what’s up?
  BLUEHEN, It means here that I think that you were somebody else, and that you changed your site name for some reason. You are a retread of a former self.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 5:06pm
  BLUEHEN, EASTINFECTION is dead on with his minimal integrity analogy.
  
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- macpappy
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 5:26pm
  Are you really wanting to be taken seriously? Hell, you are amoung workng people here, not welfare recepients, and free loading government workers. These people earn a living and still pay enough taxes to give you a home, some food stamps, and an Obama phone.
  Look, if you don’t know what a retread is, get off your moms computer and read a book or two.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 6:14pm
  That’s quite a scenario you put together in your dope addled head there BLUEHEN. Was that a dog whistle?
  
  By all means BLUENEN..next time someone breaks into your home and your family is in the home with you…just let the thief go about his busines, call the cops later…he’ll be unarmed after all and you don’t want to accidently shoot one of your family members while you home is being ransacked. Then again..you could try harsh language on him….
  
  Yes..that’s how ridiculous you sound BLUEHEN…..
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 6:26pm
  Is English your first language BLUEHEN?
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 6:31pm
  AVENGERK, Wonder if the dumbass is in Delaware, where the Blue Hen is the state bird. I can only imagine that he would take a severe ass whooping if he tried that harsh language.
  
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branch manager
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:34pm
We need more heros like her.

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- Frederick_Douglass_Republican
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:43pm
  This woman is and will always be a hero.
  
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- happ77
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:51pm
  We also need more teachers like her.
  
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- OccamsSword
  Posted on December 19, 2012 at 10:51am
  We need more heros like her with guns!
  
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Leerm
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:26pm
Bluehen; your no better then Crossbow. Give it a rest.

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- bluehen
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:34pm
  @LEERM
  
  First of all, I am at least better than you.. Its you’re not your. As for his statement that if you arm people and train them then no matter what, they will save you is nonsense. Just like I said, 8 innocent people shot by COPS during that day at the Empire State Building. I know, facts, scare you and your ilk.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:48pm
  BLUEHEN…what about that Texas family recently that kept the burglar who broke into their home at gunpoint until the police arrived? Do you think the burglar would have been as cooperative had they merely used harsh language on him?
  Please try to convince them they’ shouldn’t have any guns at home. Thanks for playing.
  
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- Face...Palm
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:55pm
  @BLUEHEN… you’r a goober. You guys just love the word “ilk”
  
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- Maji
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:07pm
  Bluehen,
  Think again!
  “abortions are awesome, then will never stop and you just need to get a grip. ”
  
  “then will never stop”????
  
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bluehen
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:21pm
@SCHROEDER123

Just like the cops in NY at the empire state building? Fox sheep and too stupid for your own good.

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- Ron Staiger
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:43pm
  Too bad your mother didn’t abort you, you low-life piece of S#!T
  
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- bluehen
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:50pm
  @RON STAIGER
  
  HAHA.. umad? Look guy, abortions are awesome, then will never stop and you just need to get a grip. There will always be more aborted fetuses than you can handle. Just get used to it
  
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- deeberj
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:00pm
  Blue Hen. Abortions are awesome?
  
  I guess if you choose the one meaning of awesome:
  
  frightening: so overwhelming as to inspire a strong feeling of fear
  Synonyms: overwhelming, fearsome
  
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Crossbow
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:00pm
The senseless tragedy in Newton was madness…but there is another tragedy that happens each day—abortion kills innocent childern too.

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- bluehen
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:19pm
  HAHAHA. efing pro-life freak. Nice to know you bible thumpers and peddle your garbage during every crisis. I have a flash for you. Abortions are awesome.
  
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- Leerm
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:24pm
  Dude, give it a rest.
  
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- tweetybird
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:43pm
  @ bluehen……just remember YOU were once a growing “blob” in your mother’s womb. You need to thank God above she gave you a chance at life instead of thinking you were just a blob and you didn’t matter.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:45pm
  So is one child’s life worth more than another’s depending on it’s location at the time…is that what you two are saying?
  
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- Cabinessence
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:51pm
  Blue hen shows how people like this can be evil and do such evil. A perfect example.
  
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- GMP
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:53pm
  I understand your sentiment.. but this is the wrong place, Crossbow.. Distasteful really.
  
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- happ77
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:56pm
  avengerk, you should read things more carefully.
  Crossbow calls both examples a tradgedy,
  its bluehen whos an a-whole.
  
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Matt
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:59pm
Even The Blaze……I am SO disappointed. Why is this on the news? The more publicity you give to the murderers actions, the more shootings we will have. This should not be on the national news so much, and, if it does grace the national news it should only be to talk about the acts of heroism, and the name and identity of the killer shouldn’t even be published.

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- RDavis49
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:35pm
  I agree with you Matt. The more publicity the media gives to these deranged kooks, their acts of hate and violence as well as the horrible affects they generate, the more of them will come out of the woodworks for their share of the attention and what they see as glory. People who are chronic introverts, hermits and loners who get little attention in their lives are generally the ones who do this sort of thing. They look for ways to be noticed and when they see all the attention one shooter gets, they’re likely to go after some of the same. Report the story, give the facts, and let it go at that… No need to sensationalize every little aspect, everybody’s tears and the gruesome details in pictures and sound bites. We, the people encourage this from the media reporting by running up their ratings. My very being here now, I’m sorry to say, is encouragement to the media.
  
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- macpappy
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 5:20pm
  Look at the “hit count” Matt. Thats why.
  
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Letthebulletsfly
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:48pm
This is the person who should have been carrying. The nurse and others who were cowering behind desks and in closets would have been no use armed or not. But this brave gal could have been the one to take out this POS had she been allowed her constitutional right. Every mass shooting in the last twenty years have been in a gun free zone. End the the killing zones now. I

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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:00pm
  Some of the teachers “cowering in closets” probably saved lots of lives by doing so. A teacher or nurse armed with a pistol might have taken the killer out–or ended up getting killed and giving him an extra weapon. You can’t know.
  
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Txrpatriot
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:43pm
Here is the link to the petition for Victoria Soto and the other teachers who gave their lives to protect their children.
http://www.petition2congress.com/8692/the-presidential-medal-freedom-award-victoria-soto-other-adults-t/

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schroeder123
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:31pm
If she only had a gun and was trained , she could fight back. What a shame.

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gunslingerpatriot
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:18pm
Man hath no greater love that he should lay his life down but for another person. John 15:13

RIP Vicki! Say hello your kids for us.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:29pm
  If you can find it, No Greater Love is an excellent book about an SF unit in Vietnam.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:34pm
  @GUNSLINGERPATRIOT
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:18pm
  Man hath no greater love that he should lay his life down but for another person. John 15:13
  ———————————————————–
  With all due respect, the actual verse [KJV] is:
  “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.”
  
  Words are crucial. Changing one word completely alters the meaning.
  Few people realize this anymore. This verse defines “friend”.
  Anyone who does not fit this definition is an “acquaintance”.
  
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- ejohnson1028
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:04pm
  I love your comment! Simple and sweet!
  
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- 4truth2all
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:04pm
  Yo Bodybag:
  
  Who is my/your neighbor?
  
  Understanding those words is critical …
  
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- NoFameLost
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:22pm
  Bodybag,
  
  If you want to get techical, the original text reads “μείζονα ταύτης ἀγάπην οὐδεὶς ἔχει, ἵνα τις τὴν ψυχὴν αὐτοῦ θῇ ὑπὲρ τῶν φίλων αὐτοῦ.” The words in question are “φίλων αὐτοῦ” or “his beloved.” φίλων is where we get Philadelphia or “City of Brotherly Love”, not friendly love. You see, being rigid about an English translation is meaningless when you have no understanding of the original language of the Text.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:27pm
  @4TRUTH2ALL
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:04pm
  Who is my/your neighbor?
  —————————————
  Someone who lives next door.
  
  I know what your sarcastic reference is —- “Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.”
  However my initial comment was not regarding how to treat others.
  It was regarding the verse quoted which defines the term “friend”.
  
  Trying to be a smart@ss troll wont work with me. Neither will your liberal mental gymnastics.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:34pm
  @NOFAMELOST
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:22pm
  If you want to get techical,
  —————————
  I dont.
  
  The God trolls here are HORRENDOUS
  ANY story about faith or mention of ANYTHING relating to God
  brings out LEGIONS of liberal and atheist trolls.
  
  This site has become nearly unusable —– which is likely their goal
  
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- NoFameLost
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:35pm
  Bodybag,
  
  I’m neither liberal, nor an atheist. I have Biblical Literature and Language degrees and I did my NT Greek capstone at Wycliff Hall at Oxford College. I have been involved in ministry for over 10 years now. I grow tired of people who speak without knowledge. If you want to get into the finer points of language and linguistics, take the time to learn the original languages of God’s Word. In any case, I encourage you to spend some time going through the Fruit of the Spirit and tempering your heart to be more like His.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:45pm
  @NOFAMELOST
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:35pm
  I’m neither liberal, nor an atheist. I have Biblical Literature and Language degrees and I did my NT Greek capstone at Wycliff Hall at Oxford College.
  I grow tired of people who speak without knowledge.
  ———————————————————
  So do I.
  Ive known many preachers with big resume’s who wouldnt know God if they tripped over him.
  Your “accomplishments” dont mean a thing and God doesnt require reading his word
  in Greek
  
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- NoFameLost
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 7:34pm
  Bodybag,
  
  You are right that know God does not require you to know Greek or Hebrew. However, choosing to be dogmatic based on an English translation is just plain arrogant. Just remember what Micah 6:8 commands us: “He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God”
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 11:24pm
  @NOFAMELOST
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 7:34pm
  You are right that know God does not require you to know Greek or Hebrew. However,
  choosing to be dogmatic based on an English translation is just plain arrogant.
  ————————–
  We can agree here.
  
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- 4truth2all
  Posted on December 19, 2012 at 7:23am
  Yo Bodybag:
  
  I expected you to respond as you did … unfortunately
  
  My responce to you was not sarcastic or from a troll ( and if you would have taken a moment and clicked my name you would have known from my posts this not to be true) nor am I liberal … so that would mean that everything you have said to/about me to also be incorrect.
  Did I set a trap ? … if I did you still fell into it. However, the “trap” was not to “bring harm” it was 4truth.
  
  The reference to neighbor is not the person next door it is EVERYBODY!
  Are you seroiusly trying to say that the Lord would only have you help a “friend” and do nothing if they are not?
  Because scripture says that if we help a friend or those that love us … BIG DEAL !!! ,,, but, if you help those who do not love you that IS !!!
  Good day , friend
  
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brigott
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:11pm
Pictures like that should never be posted without the individual’s consent!

Have some respect.

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- Cavallo
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:22pm
  Respect? That word only exists in the context of licking government boots for journalists. The common citizen is not elite enough to merit such things.
  
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- Lee_in_PA
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:27pm
  Our ‘right’ to see this photo doesn’t superceed her privacy. We will remember this photo as we remember the one of the Kent State shootings. I will see that one forever.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:20pm
  You kidding me…the media..yes including Fox has gone all out to squeeze every drop of blood and sorrow from this tragedy. I’m not watching any network that airs stories on this. It’s time we put the voyeur mentality the media and hollywood have instilled in us as a culture into the dirt where it belongs.
  
  When I saw images of this loathsome act put to music…I’d had enough and realised just how far we’ve fallen as a society. We put it to music like a cheesy TV show…it’s beyond the pale.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:42pm
  BRIGOTT….
  
  The article clearly says, “Here are a few photos of Vicki, provided by her family:..”
  
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- brigott
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 8:45pm
  East, I’m talking about the photo of Carlee – the photo “that kills” over and over again.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on December 19, 2012 at 8:06am
  BRIGOTT..
  
  I get it now.
  I don’t have a problem with it, though.
  No different than photos from 9/11 or other news events.
  When you’re in public, you don’t own you’re own likeness.
  
  My brother’s pic was on the front page of the “Newtown Bee”, ironically enough, bawling his eyes out, when he was 12 yrs old after losing a soccer game.
  
  A framed copy of it still adorns a wall in my parents house.
  I think images like this are ultimately healthy for the grieving process.
  
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biohazard23
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:03pm
I just can’t say it enough: God bless the victims and their families.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:27pm
  BIOHAZARD, So true. I spent the remainder of Friday and virtually all of Saturday in a near numbed state from all of this. And, that is well after my spending much of my life in the military and as a cop.
  BTW, just hearing that Adam Lanza was a vegan. He had expressed previously how he never wanted to hurt animals. Hmmmmm?
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:36pm
  Yeh, pretty crappy scenario all around. Vegans have issues with B12 deficiency…all sorts of issues there both physically and mentally.
  
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- biohazard23
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:45pm
  This entire thing is just from hell. There’s no other way to describe it. I heard Rush saying that the kid was a vegan, too. I don’t know about you, but a lot of the vegans I’ve met just seem miserable. Don’t know if that’s due to the B12 thing or not, but they just don’t appear to be all that happy. I don’t know… All I do know is that my heart breaks every time I think about those kids and their teachers.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:11pm
  FUBARED, BIOHAZARD, Now that you two mention that I recall my son back several years ago when he was still in high school talking about female student in his class who became a vegan. She had all sorts of problems getting along with fellow students and used to freak out in the cafeteria when it came to the odor of meat. Now, he did wonder if she put on an act or not.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 2:21pm
  Hi Guys,
  
  I went on a retreat once that lasted 2 months. There were about a dozen Veggens there that always ate at the same table.
  
  On the one day that I ate with them I noticed they all ate the Jello desert….. : )
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:38pm
  Hi MONK, LOL, did you happen to wait until they finished eating to let them know what composes Jello. Speaking of that I love their new Jello Pudding Mayan commercial. Have only seen it twice but cracked up laughing each time.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 3:52pm
  Hi RJJ,
  
  No… I couldn’t bring myself to tell them. LOL
  
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- biohazard23
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:57pm
  Aw, Monk, why not share the good news with them? I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when they googled it to verify that!
  
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- macpappy
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 5:33pm
  Vegan, smegan. He was a lunitic. Clear and simple, and as horrible as this was the reason why does not matter a whit. This kid had a bad brain.
  I had a chance to be around some vegans once….a different kind of retreat, lets say; and the worst thing about a vegan, besides the waxy skin, is the terrible gas they pass.
  
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Jaimo
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 12:56pm
That photo is the one that will be with me. It reminds me of my reaction when I got the call that my sister was killed in a motorcycle accident. My call came while I was in public too, so people react when they see someone so distraught.

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- tweetybird
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 1:33pm
  I am sorry for the loss of your sister.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on December 18, 2012 at 4:49pm
  :( Me too.
  
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