
(Photo: Wiki Commons/Santa Cruz Public Library)
In what critics are sure to call yet another example of indoctrination in the public school system, California officials not only named an elementary school after a revolutionary Mexican-American murderer — they are staunchly defending the decision.
Tiburcio Vasquez was a notorious California bandit who lived in the late 19th century, according to the USC library, who started his career in crime at the young age of 14 when he stabbed a constable at a party. From there, he spent decades robbing, murdering, and likely having at least one affair with a married woman.
Before he was hanged for his crimes in 1875, Vasquez issued a statement claiming discrimination of Mexican-Americans:
“A spirit of hatred and revenge took possession of me. I had numerous fights in defense of what I believed to be my rights and those of my countrymen. I believed we were unjustly deprived of the social rights that belonged to us.”
And that has everything to do with why he is a hero for the Alisal Union School District in Salinas, California.
FoxNews.com has more:
Superintendent John Ramirez defended the board’s decision telling Fox News that one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.
“Tiburcio Vasquez, along with others, was an individual who was a revolutionary,” Ramierz said. “He was not okay with the oppression.”
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“He took from the rich and gave to the poor,” Francisco Estrada told KION. “He was your inspiration of Zorro.”
Estrada sat on the naming committee for the new elementary school and said the convicted murderer was a good man who should be a model to the youth of East Salinas.
He said Vasquez was simply misunderstood.
“Mr. Vasquez, number one, was not a murderer,” he told the television station. “He was framed by the system at that time.”
“The history was written by mainstream whites,” he said. “It wasn’t written by Californians or people of Mexican descent. When do we have our history written by us? When do we stop having our heroes branded as villains?”
Ramirez told Fox News that Vasquez is a role model to Mexican-Americans.
“When you have individuals who have been struggling for so long, dealing with oppression and systematic oppression, then you bring up leaders who have fought against resistance, of course they are going to be role models to you,” he told Fox News. “Vasquez is an individual who did that prior to us — who can be sort of a hero to us.” [Emphasis added]
But not everyone is happy with the morally relativistic argument.
“I don’t like the idea of naming the school after a criminal,” councilman Steve McShane told The Californian, Fox News relates. “There’s a big difference between naming a school after people in our history who have shown leadership and courage – and those disrespectful of common laws and decency.”
When the city’s incoming mayor suggested naming the school after another figure from Mexican-American history — one who wasn’t a convicted murderer– Ramirez lashed out.
“He needs to learn history,” Ramirez retorted. “He should not be making comments based on what he finds on Google.”
In Ramirez’s opinion, honoring Vasquez is no different than honoring Thomas Jefferson, because Jefferson had slaves.
(H/T: WeaselZippers)
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Comments (77)
Witness1974
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:10pmNow wait just a minute you California bashers. I’ve lived in California since 1959 and I just want to say. . . GET ME OUTTA HERE! PLEASE, HELP! DIANE FEINTSTEIN, BARBARA BOXER, JERRY BROWN, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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jcldwl
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:37pmCalifornia is gone, Illinois is gone, New York is gone. Guess we better remake our flag with 47 stars because I know I’m not interested in letting my tax dollars bail these broken states out. Are you?
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The_Jerk
Dec. 19, 2012 at 5:12pm“Superintendent John Ramirez defended the board’s decision telling Fox News that one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.”
Then he’ll understand what we must do, act like American freedom fighters and clean out those revolutionaries who have invaded our country. We need another Mexican-American war.
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shadowpsfp
Dec. 19, 2012 at 6:34pmTo The_Jerk. I am with you all the way. There needs to be something done about this. This is a repeat of history. We are Rome, and they are the germans!
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DIR
Dec. 19, 2012 at 8:20pmTiburcio Vasquez is the first revolutionary to come up with the idea of a Taco Bell like franchise where he would set his customers free in a number of ways: First of their cash and second of a huge load. His weapon of choice was a a refried been enriched enchirito with extra cheese and an a spicy jalapeño to make the whole concoction explosive. He’s the guy who coined the idea that Mexicans are gassy, because after they ate his savory treats gas was prevalent, but only the half of it. Vasquez is quite a role model for a school. His name would be more appropriate for a fireworks stand. In Rameriz’s office you’ll probably find all kinds of Taco Bell memorabilia including a collection empy burrito wrappers and half eaten burritos, the other half thrown as exploding devices.
If you want to see Rameriz light up like a sparkler send him and his students this portrait of Vasquez.
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pavepaws
Dec. 19, 2012 at 8:30pmProbably no worse than naming a school after Adam Lanza.
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SunTzuYou
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:03pmHard time understanding how this guy is revered with public dollars and the confederate flag is banned? The same case can be made for the southern states since the Civil War.
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THX-1138
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:56pmSilly! Only white people are evil.
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thegreatcarnac
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:01pm“he was not ok with the oppression”…………………
That’s a laugh. You trash wish to talk of oppression….go back to mexico. Go and talk to a US Marine rotting in a jail there for nothing. The very idea there are mexicans in this country counteracts the “oppression” argument. Let me run this country for a while and the Illegals, the ones who came here illegally but became citizens due to some politician, and criminals will see real “oppression”. They would be in jail, in Mexico, or shot.
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Bamagal0007
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:59pmFunny how some people define murderer, huh? I guess it’s OK to murder if the victims are white folks.
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JRGJR
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:07pmEspecialy if they are a white Christian.
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YAHSHUARULES
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:22pmThat’s right the left has a problem with only one religion BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY.
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All part of the Agenda to create an America so corrupt it stinks and to drive this culture in a direction designed to destroy it. If you don’t know all this you need to find out!
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chucksue351
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:28pmor native americans remember them too
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Balpit
Dec. 19, 2012 at 5:45pmThey honor murderers like Tiburcio Vasquez, Che Guevara, and Mao Zedong with T-shirts, fan clubs, school names, you name it.
At this rate, they should honor Scott Roeder. OK, so he killed abortion doctor George Tiller, but he’s a murderer, too! He should fit right in!
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NOTYERHUCKLEBERRY
Dec. 19, 2012 at 10:48pmjrgjr,
You forgot “male” and “hetro sexual”.
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thibx
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:57pmwhole damn world has gone mad.
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nesmond
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:55pmWhat about “The Richard Speck school of Nursing”, “The John Wayne Gacy Home for Wayward Boys” or “The Jeffrey Dahmer College of Cullinary Arts”? Progressives are such tools.
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safetharbor
Dec. 20, 2012 at 11:15amI thought you meant “fools” but after careful review, you’re correct. The progessives are TOOLS of this currupt administration. ..oh yea!
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grimmster
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:54pmThe left loves murders,they always have,wont be long before the erect a statue in DC of lanza.
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BlackCrow
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:54pmWho next Poncho Villa or Che Guevara?
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Cavallo
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:02pmArgentina has high schools named after that Marxist butcher, and we are following in the footsteps of Argentina.
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Tri-ox
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:54pmThis is no worse than naming schools after obama.
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oldduffer
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:48pmI vote they change the name to Osama Bin Laden or Osama Obama maybe even Mao or Stalin.
More modern and more suited to the current educational system, and, one that should send cheers through teachers and professors throughout the U.S.
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WarMunger_Al
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:56pm“one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.”
this is the stupidest statement ever. Freedom fighters target legitimate military targets, terrorists target civilians. There is no saving kalifornia, they should have their statehood revoked.
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mellowlady
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:45pmI don’t know about this guy but Joaquin Murrieta was either a victim or victimizer depending on which history book you read.
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Cavallo
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:40pmWait did he shoot anyone? So, as a role model to youth they should shoot and murder people? Or is that they can shoot and murder people as long as they are white and you are not? In what way should the youth be like Tiburcio Vasquez? Was Adam Lanza fulfilling his duty to be like Toburcio?
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65Mustang
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:38pmYou couldn’t pay me enough to live in the “hell hole” called California…think of all the things that will be name after the murderer-in-chief, Obama.
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Talmid of Yeshua
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:35pmWake up white America. Immigrants hate us and will outbreed us and will eventually kill all of us. Wake up. Close the border. Build a wall. And shoot any illegal alien when they try to scale the wall. Protect our border.
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JRGJR
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:09pmDitto
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TSUNAMI_22
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:32pm150 years from now some dumb ass will name a mental incompetence treatment facility after Adam Lanza, James Holmes, or Jerod Laughner.
Up is down, left is right, we all give-in without a fight.
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TXVET48
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:32pmIt’s California…..
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Cavallo
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:52pmI wonder if they would name a school after Adam Lanza if his first name had been more like Jose, Hulio, Manuel, Gerardo, Cesar, Lorenzo, or Esteban. Do you have to be completely Mexican to be a murderer (with a gun) and have a school named after you, or if you are considered a White Hispanic does that throw things out the window?
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valleyfever
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:18pmWell that’s the way to build a country. Teach the Mexican kiddies to admire “revolutionary gangsters”. That will prepare them to enter the big world of gardening and fast food. Guess elections do have consequences. Ramirez needs his head examined…or maybe this is his way to get 15 seconds of fame.
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conmil
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:17pmObama and the socialists have won the hearts and minds of America using the communist plan of ground roots subversion. Hell, it got Obama elcected as President. So many levels below him are already there. The US is doomed.
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SimpleTruths
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:36pmYOUR US is doomed, mine is doing just fine. I’ve never had a better life than I’ve had for the last four years, business is booming and I look forward to the next four even more.
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thegreatcarnac
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:51pmSimple…….you must be black or some other protected color.
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grimmster
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:58pm@simplystupid. aka encinom.
You dont own a business,you dont even have a job,if im wrong, prove it,dumbass pos idiot…..
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:16pmSimpleton must be buying steaks for his dogs with food stamps…
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welloddyfriggindah
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:08pmWhat’s a little robbing, raping, and murder between friends?
So, character doesn’t matter if you voice ONE opinion that’s acceptable to a people.
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50211bs
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:18pmIts as bad as those che guavera t-shirts i see all over the place.
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ProgressiveDeist267
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:04pmI’m an American of Latino/Hispanic (Mexican and Cuban) ancestry. While many would defend revolutionaries or rebels who were Latino/Hispanic many were people who wanted power and didn’t support liberty. Tiburcio Vásquez sounds like a person who used Mexican rights to defend his crimes. There are many Latino’s who were (are) great leaders who should be looked up to; not criminals who stole and killed people.
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progressiveslayer
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:03pmMore BS revisionist history being taught that America stole California from Mexico and the idiots in charge are glorifying a murderer,no surprise.The Mexicans pretty much control commiefornia now anyway just write it off and let them keep it they destroyed it already. Businesses are leaving by the thousands because of heavy taxation endless regulations and the millions of illegals destroying the state.
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1TrueOne55
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:22pmWell we did, don’t you know. Our Army Generals fought a better war and won. Like Obama likes to say you lost live with it. When you loose a fight you loose the ability to dictate the terms of your surrender.
Even the King of England learned that lesson, we won he lost, we became the United States of America because of that. And yes guerrilla tactics were used by our “Special Forces” because we did not have the same “Heavy Weapons” like cannons and Battleships to bombard cities along the east coast. Namely New York, Philadelphia and Boston.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Dec. 19, 2012 at 7:02pmObama won an election (that statement could be contested) not a war. There are no terms of surrender for losing an election, just a concession speech. Your analogy makes no sense.
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biohazard23
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:02pmJared Loughner, Ted Bundy, John Gacey, Ed Gein, and Nidal Hassan were simply misunderstood, too, right? Then again, this is happening in the land of fruits and nuts so no big shocker here, kids.
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:12pmDon´t forget Richard Kuklinski, that “good” boy from New Jersey, following their logic he was misunderstood too.
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biohazard23
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:23pmTrue that. I swear, libs will go to the ends of the earth to protect a deranged killer but they have no problem aborting innocent babies.
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oldguy49
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:01pmi delieve that i saw a video on beck a couple of years ago where a school teacher was talking about taking back cali and a couple of other states…….guess it gonna happen…..obumer
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CatB
Dec. 19, 2012 at 2:59pmGet your children OUT of the public schools…. NOW. Even if your school is not this “bold” they are not teaching your children the REAL history of America .. or anything else .. .they are progressive indoctrination centers. That goes double for taxpayer funded colleges and universities .. why do you think Obama wants EVERYONE to attend .. and end up slaves to college loans by the feds also.
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Kerbouchard
Dec. 19, 2012 at 4:11pm” .. .they are progressive indoctrination centers. That goes double for taxpayer funded colleges and universities .. why do you think Obama wants EVERYONE to attend .. and end up slaves to college loans by the feds also.”
That’s a BINGO!
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RJJinGadsden
Dec. 19, 2012 at 2:55pmWhile they are at it, maybe the next neighborhood school can be named Adam Lanza.
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biohazard23
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:03pmDon’t give them any ideas!
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:11pmAnd name the Library down the street the “Free Mumia Library for Social Misfits and Murderers”…
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thegreatcarnac
Dec. 19, 2012 at 3:53pmLanza elementary…right next to the Charles Manson Home for Girls
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