The gun control debate raged on Wednesday night as CNN host Piers Morgan battled TheBlaze’s Will Cain and other pro-gun advocates over whether an semi-automatic assault weapons ban would curb violent crime in the United States.
“Why does any American need one of these AR-15s? What possible protection can that kind of thing offer them? It’s a military rifle,” Morgan began.
“I don’t think that the conversation, when it comes to me, is with the burden upon me to say why I might need that weapon,” Cain replied. “What I need you to do explain how you’ve made the country safer by proposing to ban that weapon.”
“I understand the sense that we have at a moment like this that we must do something,” he added. “But what I would suggest is make sure you are actually going to accomplish that.”
Cain went on to say he is not convinced that banning assault weapons would accomplish anything “significant.” He noted that the rifle that Newtown, Conn. shooter Adam Lanza used when he killed 20 children and six adults would not be covered under Connecticut’s assault weapons ban or the federal assault weapons ban that expired in 2004.
“I find that ridiculous,” Morgan replied.
“What I would say is, the federal ban that we did have for 10 years didn’t drop national violence,” Cain said.
“But it did. Demonstrably, it did,” Morgan shot back.
After saying he wasn’t aware of the statistics that Morgan was referring to, Cain explained that it takes a very “determined criminal” to do something as horrific as Adam Lanza, and an assault weapons ban isn’t necessarily going to deter that kind of deranged individual.
As far as Morgan’s claim that the federal assault weapons ban passed by Congress in 1994 “demonstrably” reduced national violence, he may be overselling, according to a 2004 study from the University of Pennsylvania.
ABC News reports:
That is unclear. According to a 2004 study from the University of Pennsylvania, the number of people killed in mass shootings did go down generally during the years that the ban was in effect. The exception was 1999, the year that the shooting at Columbine High School happened.
The number of mass shootings per year has doubled since the ban expired, but the researchers say it’s difficult to discern whether there was a cause-and-effect relationship.
When asked what law he would propose to stop mass killings like the one in Connecticut, Morgan said “you’ve got to try.”
“I’ve been in this country for the last six, seven years watching shooting massacre after [shooting massacre],” he added. “When does the slaughter stop?”
At this point, John R. Lott Jr., author of “More Guns, Less Crime,” chimed in and defended the use of semi-automatic rifles, saying the guns have the same characteristics as all semi-automatic weapons.
“You want people to think that they are just harmless old hunting rifles, and that’s why they sell so fast. And it is a disgrace that you won’t answer those questions,” Morgan said, raising his voice.
At several points throughout the interaction between Lott and Morgan, it was more of a shouting match as Morgan demanded Lott answer the AR-15 related question, “How many bullets does it fire a second?”





















































































































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666Sucks
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:58amListen to the left, they rant that we don’t need assault rifles for hunting or home defense, the response from the right is always a stupid look on their face and crickets chirping. The response from me is always, “assault rifles are not for home defense, they are for defense against tyrannical communist dictatorships!” Now everyone say it, “Assault weapons are to stop dictatorships,” it’s in our bill of rights! Every time the right to bare arms is taken away, communists then start mass executions, remember Larry Grathwohl! If they violate our constitutional rights and come for our guns, they get two hollow points and the next armed revolution begins with me! I have a bronze star, my dad gave his life for this country, and I want my grandkids to have what I had! Start going on the offense against these morons my fellow true Americans, we have the law and the constitution behind us! Assault weapons are to stop rogue governments & dictatorships, now say it!
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Lt_Scrounge
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:20amThey’ll deny it of course but one of the founding fathers was very specific when he wrote that the primary purpose of the second amendment was to insure that the people have the means to defend themselves against those who would impose tyranny upon them, including their own government.
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searcher619
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:06amThat’s right we don’t need ‘assault rifles’ for home defense or hunting. We need them for when we need to take up arms against our government if/when it becomes corrupt and stops answering to the people. Why can’t idiots on the left grasp this fact? This is why the 2nd Amendment was added. It wsn’t put in for hunters or defending your home against common criminals. For f’s sake… I can’t believe there are people stupid enough to actually believe that it was.
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10-32inIdaho
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:12amI like the idea of their arguement. (Insert laugh) Another possible felony charge will stop him. Yup possession of an assault weapon. Not stealing one, not stealing a car, not shooting his mother in the face, not the breaking and entering, not shooting an adult X 8, not shooting a child X 20, nope that 1 possession of a assault weapon will make him think, “Nope better not”. The genie came out of the bottle with Columbine. The mass killing will continue after the a ban.
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rangerskippy
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:22am“Assault rifle” is not a gun term, it is a political term. Go to a gun store, and ask for an “assault rifle”, and they will send you packing. AR is for Armalite, the company that designed the M16 family of rifles
Morgan is another that has no idea of what he is talking about.
He suffers from Hoplophobia.
The M4 does not fire any faster than my .22 squirrel rifle. It does not fire any faster than the M1 Carbine used in WWII.
In the 1950s, you could walk into a hardware store, and purchase M1Carbines and you could get 20 and 30 round magazines for it. Kids did not take em to school and slaughter each other.
The “gun” is not the problem. We got rid of prayer, Bible, and the Ten Commandments, and sit back and wonder why these things happen.
While one of these incidents is too many, they are very rare. More kids drowned in their own swimming pools and bath tubs than die of gun violence, but then again, socialists cannot get full power by outlawing swimming pools.
Black Americans make up 12.5% of the population, they do half the nation’s murders. If we dropped black murder rates to the same as whites, we would drop the nation’s murder rates by almost 40%. You will never hear a lib tell you that, knowing that doing so would also save a lot of black lives.
Most gun murders are done with a cheap semi auto hand gun, not a battle carbine.
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justangry
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:25amYeah and a ***** Brit would never understand freedom anyway.
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00100111
Dec. 20, 2012 at 10:07amThis is how the left argues, you see it on here from the liberal loser trolls that post. They don’t have reasoned, logical thought. They scream and cry like soiled infants. They really do poop on the chess board, knock over the pieces, and strut around like they’ve won. Liberals are truly useless, worthless creatures. I’d feel sorry for them if I actually cared about their fate.
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M4-A1
Dec. 20, 2012 at 10:18amThe person should have answered as many times as I can pull the trigger. the AR15 isn’t full auto stupid morgan.
now if you ask me what an M16 will fire well that’s another story.
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integrican
Dec. 20, 2012 at 10:30amAnswer: Not as many as my 10/22 Ruger with a 50 round banana mag. (LOL) With equal mags, about the same and my Sig 226 Navy which is 15+1 lags just behind.
Note: MORGAN YOU ARE AN IMBECILE!!!!
As to “why”?
….and when these “dolts” come crawling to me for help from the roving bands of young and strong marauders, I will NOT help them.
Please watch and share this. …..and if anyone doesn’t have an hour to learn this very important lesson, then they will not need help from me in the hour of truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrPvtEVT5sk&list=FLbWHteWJPycTxzPtdU60_Fw&feature=mh_lolz
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Silvertruth
Dec. 20, 2012 at 10:39amLott should have just said “As fast as you can pull the trigger, doesn’t mean you are going to hit anything though, just like your proposed legislation. You’re trying to pull the trigger as fast as you can but you have only a moving target in mind and what you are proposing will not hit it. Stop aiming at the firearms which actually make you safer and aim and the root cause of cultural failures which let us think that the issue lies with an inanimate object and not the person that animates it.”
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integrican
Dec. 20, 2012 at 10:42am@ Ranger Skippy You sir are “right on target”, “bullseye”, “dead center”, “you shoot from the hip”, you “shoot straight and true”, you “killed it’!!!!
Did I overdo it?, LOL. Heeheehheeee!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!
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starcross1
Dec. 20, 2012 at 10:56amwhere do we assemble and when, bring what?
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ginger100
Dec. 20, 2012 at 10:59am@666sucks it needs to be turned around and we the people should ask why does the IRS need 174,000 rounds of hollow point bullets and why does a tax collector need to be armed and wear a bullet proof vest?
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TeresaJ
Dec. 20, 2012 at 11:05amYes, they are. Also, to protect ourselves in the event of an invasion. If America becomes disarmed, wouldn’t our enemies just dance with glee (not that they aren’t already)? I’d never give up my husband’s right to defend his family by any means necessary.
A majority on a gun ban just proves how useless America has become, as if that would stop violence.
An even bigger danger is this. Once one foundational Constitutional law is broken, it opens the door to break all the others.
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Trigus
Dec. 20, 2012 at 11:33am“Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.”
George Washington
First President of the United States
“When the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually…I ask, who are the militia? They consist of now of the whole people, except a few public officers. But I cannot say who will be the militia of the future day. If that paper on the table gets no alteration, the militia of the future day may not consist of all classes, high and low, and rich and poor…”
George Mason, Virginia Constitution Convention
“The ruling class doesn’t care about public safety. Having made it very difficult for States and localities to police themselves, having left ordinary citizens with no choice but to protect themselves as best they can, they now try to take our guns away. In fact they blame us and our guns
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Trigus
Dec. 20, 2012 at 11:38am“Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American…[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.”
Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson’s “Commonplace Book,” 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764
“The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world not destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them … the weak will become prey to the strong.”
Thomas Paine, Thoughts on Defensive War
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closetotheedge
Dec. 20, 2012 at 11:50amChicago is a murder cap’ in the USA because of the gun laws that exist. Ak’s that look lke mil’ weapons are 22cal and are semi,not full auto. So keep all the bedwetting Libs from the lies ,and the muslum Pres we have who backs the mus’ bros,bows to Mus’Kings and Princes,and Egypts Morsi a mus’ bro who will get 4 0f 20 F-16s this Sat’ from the US/Oba bros. of the $1.4 Bil in aid to Egypt.Our Oba has proven his true religeon of islam and the destruction of the USA and the lies he follows which is part of islam ethics,along with many others as needed for the cause,even the mass murders of their own babies andchildren and women who are muslum too.in a Holy Jihadist bombings. This is a religion of peace and love? And Oba a christian? Never!!!! Just what he needs to be at the moment.Will he be tried as a traitor or allowed to finish? Think about it,it’s real and true!! We are ‘Close to the edge’ as we know it.
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horseman43
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:10pm‘Answer My Question!’: Angry Piers Morgan Berates Gun Advocate Over How Many Bullets an AR-15 Can Fire in One Second (Featuring TheBlaze’s Will Cain)”
So far as volume is concerned, you lmey b*****d, it pales in comparison to the firepower of a pump action shotgun that can saturate an area with ten times the projectiles as an AR-15.
It’s far more lethal than any firearm out there at the distances these deranged miscreants are firing from.
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idahoccw
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:30pmRight on the money Searcher. The 2nd amendment isn’t about hunting or personal protection. The 2nd Amendment was put into the consitution so the United States citizenry could protect and defend itself from a tyrannical and over-reaching government.
Ask anyone from the following countries if a populace should be armed.
Chile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_violations_during_the_Military_government_of_Chile
Myanmar
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/01/myanmar-clashes-atrocities_n_1727674.html
Syria
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-20070624/syrian-refugees-tell-of-government-atrocities/
Darfur
http://www.preventorprotect.org/overview/darfur.html
Bosnia
http://www.preventorprotect.org/overview/bosnia.html
Cambodia
http://www.preventorprotect.org/overview/cambodia.html
The list goes on . . . .
http://listverse.com/2011/06/20/top-10-craziest-modern-dictators/
The U.S. is different from those countries you say. Why is it different? What makes our country a better place to live? Why can Piers Morgan come here and take the opportunity to voice his opinion without being imprisoned. Why can OWS trash the parks and cities that they demonstrated in without getting run over by tanks?
The world turns to the United States whenever another country enslaves and commits atrocities against its people. Here in the United States who will we turn to if that happens us?
We the people are the best last defense The United States has against t
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SandW
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:35pmsearcher619 – “For f’s sake… I can’t believe there are people stupid enough to actually believe that it was.” ******** Unfortunately they exist in sufficient numbers to not only believe this, but to re-elect Mr Community organizer, that increasing the tax rate on the “rich” will solve the debt and deficit problems (when we know it will fund government for about a week) AND that Benghazi is NOT a coverup that goes all the way to the White House.
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turkey13
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:44pmWe have semi-auto guns in the usa and in most Muslim countrys all you see are the citizens with their K-47 that are full automatic. We have to keep pulling the trigger and all they have to do is hls the trigger down untill it rns out of bullits. I would like to see old Piers go to Iroc and ask those folks about their guns – he will probably get shot as he asks about it.
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BasketFullOfPuppies
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:47pmActually, your argument has it’s flaws as well. So-called assault weapons are useful in just as many scenarios as just about any other weapon. I know people that hunt deer with an AR-15, legally. Is it the best gun for the job? That’s not for me or anyone else to say. Since they come home with deer, it appears that it is adequate. The idea that, as a military style weapon, it is unsuited for home defense is asinine as well. Military personnel don’t switch weapons when they switch from an offensive to defensive posture. Lastly, some people aren’t just defending their front lawns and houses from humans. They are defending their ranches and animals from varmints, such as coyotes, coydogs and mountain lions. These animals are rarely sitting still when the the need to exterminate them arises. The ability to shoot quickly is a real plus.
One of the tricks that the left uses, is to try to support an argument for a one-size-fits-all solution. When that “solution” doesn’t work, they remove the last vestige as “it doesn’t help, so you don’t need that one either”. Don’t play their game and don’t help them to make their argument. The best gun in the world for the situation that you are in, is the one that you have.
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WirbelDave
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:56pmYeah, because they totally had assault rifles back then. Like thousands of them. Maybe even millions.
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k9tp
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:07pmGood points all. The reason why we have gun violence is because of these bleeding hearts like Morgan. The will feel good if we are all disarmed but they will surely have their own personal body guards…How many bullets a second didn’t seem to make much difference in Oregon where only a few were hit or killed. The guy shot like 60 shots. Or how about the two guys in North Hollywood back in the 90′s. They shot thousands of rounds into the town and they died, nobody else who was shot died but them. They were taken down by an AR15..I didn’t take but a few rounds to stop them yet they literally sprayed thousands of rounds.
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banjarmon
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:16pmHow Many Bullets an AR-15 Can Fire in One Second? IF I’M PROTECTING MY FAMILY….NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!
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AxelPhantom
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:18pmDue to the high rate of deaths due to automobiles, I propose legislation that would restrict those who would be allowed to buy a car and regulate the private sale of cars on a National scale. Hence forth you cannot purchase a car if you are under 21 years of age, you must be an American Citizen, with a valid photo I.D.. You must submit your information for a full criminal background check and answer this simple affadavit.
1) Do you own a cell phone with texting capabilities
2) Do you have a child in your household under the age of 10
3) Do you often have to transport more than one child under the age of 10
4) Have you ever consumed food or drink in your vehicle while moving
5) Do you plan to listen to music or other media in your vehicle
6) Do you plan to purchase a car that is capable of exceeding the speed limit
7) Have you ever consumed an alcoholic beverage
8) Do you take any kind of prescription medicine
9) Are you over the age of 70
10) Do you have a medical condition such as serial sneezing
11) Do you wear contacts
12) Are you in the middle of a traumatic life event such as death in the family, divorce or ending a relationship
13) Have you ever had a dispute with a boss or co-worker at your place of employment
14) Are you or have you ever been diagnosed with a condition that would require mental-health counseling?
15) Have you ever broken the traffic laws
sarc. off
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Redhat
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:27pmAn Ar-15 is nether an assault rifle or military rifle. The AR-15 is a semi-auto rifle, and in CA. it has a ridged 10 round magazine. The Constitution is… with liberty and justice for all. My liberty is to keep government out of my life where it is not needed according to the Constitution.
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The Scarecrow
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:31pmWe have a dictatorship right now.
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Maji
Dec. 20, 2012 at 2:37pmAsk the women above with the cops finger in their “rump” (road check ) how they feel about
guns for police only
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echo216610
Dec. 20, 2012 at 2:41pmassault weapons are to stop tyranny. the left knows it, that’s why they are hell bent on disarming us. tyranny is here. just read some of the stories on this site, cavity searched on the side of the road, town will arm officers and demand papers from everyone they see, and the list goes on and on. the left knows that we will eventually fight back (I HOPE) so they want to disarm us all. the simple truth is that the only thing that has ever stopped a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun. it’s also true that never in the history of the world has a group of disarmed/unarmed people been able to live in peace and prosperity. that’s why they don’t teach true history. wake up America.
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siobhan3270
Dec. 20, 2012 at 3:19pmYou are so right. As the second amendment states clearly, “A well regulated Militia (meaning citizen soldiers) being necessary to the security of a fee State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Our founders allowed that we have the natural right to defend ourselves to keep our country FREE. They didn’t care about sport shooting or hunting. The weapons are to be used against the government to prevent dictatorship. Why can’t gun people actually say that???
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-B
Dec. 20, 2012 at 3:22pmListen to RANGERSKIPPY. I bet he’s at the top of the Preident’s 100.
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rangerskippy
Dec. 20, 2012 at 3:30pm-B
I have not yet earned the President’s Hundred tab, but am working at it.
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DSinOC
Dec. 20, 2012 at 3:53pmIt is quite obvious that the best way to reduce Mass Killings is to arm citizens, and eliminate “Gun Free Zones”.
Examples of shootings in “Gun Free Zones”, where concealed carry guns are not allowed:
• Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, CT, 2012: (26 dead)
• Movie Theater, Aurora, CO, 2012: (12 killed)
• Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA, 2007: (32 dead)
Compared to shootings in other locations:
• Mayan Palace Theater, San Antonio, TX, 2012: (0 dead) Jesus Manuel Garcia shoots at a movie theater, a police car and bystanders; as he enters the movie theater, an armed off-duty cop shoots Garcia four times, stopping the attack.
• Appalachian School of Law, Grundy, VA, 2002: (3 dead) Crazed immigrant shoots the dean and a professor, then begins shooting students; as he goes for more ammunition, two armed students point their guns at him, allowing a third to tackle him.
• Nick’s Palace, Edinboro, Pa., 1998: (1 killed) A student shoots up a junior high school dance being held at a restaurant; restaurant owner pulls out his shotgun and stops the gunman.
• Pearl High School, Mississippi, 1997: (2 killed) After shooting several people at his high school, student heads for the junior high school; assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieves a .45 pistol from his car and points it at the gunman’s head, ending the murder spree.
Many more example of both could be cited further proving that an armed citizenry = safety for the citizen.
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shakedowncrews
Dec. 20, 2012 at 4:40pmAll true.
I respond in the following manner:
First, ALL weapons we use today were military designs. Even muskets. Revolvers, Lever Actions, Bolt Actions, and Semi Auto Actions were ALL military designs. And they were ALL available throughout our history to civilians who wanted them. NEVER did the government say that citizens should have guns that were outdated. Not until the Prohibition years, when criminal gangs started using fully automated machine guns, and then those were prohibited except to those who can acquire a special license to have them.
Secondly, the rifles in question are NOT assault weapons. They do not fire full auto. They are LESS powerful than typical hunting rifles, but slightly more powerful than most pistols. But they are black, and that scares people.
Third, a trained shooter with three ten-round magazines can do as much damage as a trained shooter with one 30-round mags. The time it takes to swap mags is about 1/2 to 1 second.
Fourth, they do make excellent home defense weapons, and they are excellent hunting platforms.
Fifth, most importantly: the 2nd amendment ensured that the PEOPLE were armed sufficiently to be able to defend their liberties from a tyrannical government. So folks like Mr Morgan, an English tosser to be sure, may not understand why we want those, but unlike Europeans, who never learn from History, we Americans understand that IF the Germans and Russian people were armed, they could have resisted the regimes that killed them.
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TgP
Dec. 20, 2012 at 5:21pmIt was reported by police, the guy never used the AR-15 why is everyone false reporting that he used it? The rifle was left in his car and never used on the children.
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snooop1e
Dec. 20, 2012 at 5:43pmI find it fascinating when people who know nothing about firearms try to have an intelligent debate about firearms. A “semi-automatic” firearm is any firearm that can auto-reload one round at a time. A semi-automatic firearm can fire as fast as you can pull the trigger (google “bumpfire” for example of this) A fully automatic weapon (aka machine gun) has a cyclic rate that varies depending on the caliber, ammunition and design of the weapon. The idea that a firearm with a cyclic rate of 4 rounds per second is more deadly than a gun with a cyclic rate of 1 to 2 rounds per second is just silly. It’s like saying that a drunk driver going 50 mph is safer than a drunk driver going 60 mph. Pierce doesn’t seem to understand that civil unrest (LA Riots for example) and natural disasters (Katrina) happen. During the LA riots Police couldn’t and often wouldn’t respond to calls because the situation was too out of control. So when you can’t rely on the Police what do you do? In a survival situation the AR-15 is perfectly suited for both hunting and self defense. Ask any business owner who defended their property with an AR-15 following the Katrina hurricane or the LA riots.
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Bum thrower
Dec. 20, 2012 at 6:51pmHey Piers; you are a couple of hundered years too late; if there had been ‘gun control’ in colonial times, the national anthem today would be ‘God Save the Queen’…..LOL!!
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HARLEYTECH
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:42pmYou sir are a patriot!! ,i refuse to join the nra because its not about hunting and i refuse to play that game,we need to pay close attention to what these people in washington are doing . Look what they have done in the last 20 years ,i will say this knowing some will think its crazy ,but the john birch society warned about what was happening in washington, its scary when i look back on what they said was happening and what has come to pass .I had to quit at the time because the more i learned the more angry i became ,and nobody wanted to get involved .I learned that we need to concentrate on the house because they control the money, so write ,call until they beg you to stop then call some more. Here ‘s the deal if we don’t tell them we don’t like what they are doing they will assume its okay we all need to call write and call back . We must demand ,they do the right thing or suffer their tyranny, then friends it will be a nasty fight. My thoughts go to custer and yes we have the numbers but lets not let it go there if we don’t have to ,start tomorrow we have lots of work to do . And ya im yelling
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romsquiz
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:10pmWhat a perfect example why the rest of the industrialised world shakes their heads. Insecure paranoid rednecks abound and you sit on your fat 2nd ammendent/”God given right” arse and allow your citizens to get shot right left and center. What a bunch of selfish *********, who’s gonna save you from this so called invasion force? A bunch of redneck dad’s army hoons? No, your GOVERMENT will…as long as they have the money…lol
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Lt_Scrounge
Dec. 20, 2012 at 10:51pmHey Romquiz, the problem isn’t that we’re sitting on our Redneck Arses allowing them to be shot left and right, it’s people like you insisting on NOT allowing those of us who take the safety and security of ourselves and others seriously to do anything to stop them from being shot left and right. You complain and whine and pass laws that leave victims helpless and then scream for more of the same when the inevitable happens. Look at the difference between the theater in Aurora, CO and the one in Texas this past week. Gun free zone theater had numerous victims, shooter in Texas theater ran headlong into an off duty deputy who ended his shooting spree with only one other person wounded. The church shooter in Colorado a few years ago was stopped from entering a sanctuary containing hundreds of people by a volunteer security guard with a gun. If people with guns weren’t effective at stopping criminals, why would police officers carry them?
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Teaparty-grammy
Dec. 21, 2012 at 12:05amDamned straight, and the idiot liberals working day and night to bring about JUST THAT do NOT get it. They WON’T get it until the Great Eared One declares himself “Dear Leader for Life” and the jackbooted thugs turn up at THEIR door in the middle of the night, as part of their sweep to eliminate the “useful idiots” who are no longer needed and would just get in the way.
If those fool Democrats knew ANYTHING at all about the history of Communism, they would not be rushing toward it with arms outstretched in welcome, throwing away their–and our–freedoms with both hands. It’s enough to make a person weep, being forced to sit and watch these IDIOTS destroy what is left of a once-great country.
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Teaparty-grammy
Dec. 21, 2012 at 12:06amYou can bet the Great Eared One knows that is why the right to own assault weapons is important–why do you think he is so EAGER to confiscate them all and outlaw them?
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Teaparty-grammy
Dec. 21, 2012 at 12:31am@ DSinOC, who posted stats comparing “gun-free zones” to places where people were armed when the crazed shooter arrived. We KNOW it is true that when somebody ELSE is armed besides the nut case, there are many fewer, or no deaths at all–it happens all the time. The kind of nuts who grab a gun, enter a school and start shooting six-year-olds is a COWARD at heart, and has no wish to confront an armed opponent on equal terms. WHY do you think they pick places like SCHOOLS, where they KNOW there will be no guns except their own?
If would-be mass-murderers were killed by armed opponents OFTEN enough, and the idiot media would stop REFUSING TO REPORT when it DOES HAPPEN, has it not occurred to these media geniuses it might serve as a deterrant to at least some of these would-be “mass murderers?
But the lying, America-hating TRAITORS in the mainstream media will not report that, because it does not fit their leftwing agenda of disarming citizens. They are hellbent on rending the entire country disarmed and at the MERCY of a lying President who will say or do ANYTHING to advance his radical agenda, and a government that is wildly out of control and tilting daily closer to total TYRANNY.
Obama’s dictator-like arrogance and actions, his open contempt for the Constitution, and his rabid determination to “transform” America into the Muslim/Communist paradise he envisions, is reason ENOUGH for people to fear the government enough to want to be armed.
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Teaparty-grammy
Dec. 21, 2012 at 12:39am@ libsrparasites – Why does a liberal have to LIE to defend his position? Because that is the only defense he has! Liberals are delusional at best, and LIARS at worst–just look at our lying President. Virtually every word that comes out of his lying mouth is a LIE.
As for the so-called “journalists” in the mainstream media, my contempt for those media WHORES is go all-encompassing that I can hardly express it without devolvihg into obscenities, because that is what they are–OBSCENITIES, soulless ROBOTS who long ago sold their intregity, their credibility and their very SOULS for a mess of liberal POTTAGE. All THAT, just so they think they will have a seat on the Communist train when it pulls out of the station?
Like other IDIOT DEMOCRATS, they should really study the history of Communism–particularly what happens to the “journalists” in a country that falls into their hands. It’s hard to fathom how anybody could be so STUPID as to work so hard for their own destruction.
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RobertHere
Dec. 21, 2012 at 5:53amAssault rifle? You mean those fully automatic rifles long denied to American citizens? Surely you do not mean our Semi-automatic Modern Sporting Rifles which are based on the fully automatics? Whatever labels we choose they ARE most certainly home defense weapons especially down here on the border. We often talk of defense against a usurper government but a sooner possibility would be societal breakdown–mobs of thugs. A 12 guage pump or pocket pistol would not do. But as to the article: Piers Morgan is a twit on a declining cable channel and not worth the bandwidth ;-)
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piper60
Dec. 21, 2012 at 6:09amWe don’t need to prove we need so many rounds per minute. Rights aren’t classroom privileges some little tin God can grant or withhold. “Shall not be infringed”means just that:not even a little.”
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smv803
Dec. 21, 2012 at 10:38amGod bless you Teaparty-Granny! Great Eared One…..too funny. I am amazed that we are even discussing this issue and that there are some on here agreeing with the dope from across the pond. What would Morgan know about haveing the cojones needed to own a weapon and actually know how to use it?
It’s fear that drives these people and that fear doesn’t allow for cognitive thought. In the meantime they give the great eared one fodder for his cause. He will have a fight on his hands……..The list of top 100 wanted will be in the millions instead. And the fight won’t just be with guns either.
I would recommend this issue be put to rest and some other subject or cause be taken up instead….just so know, we will Not surrender our weapons.
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LithiumWarsWAKEUP
Dec. 21, 2012 at 3:38pmDSINOC, on your list of ‘Gun Free Zones’ you forgot Columbine High School, Littleton, CO. Maybe you could add the University of Texas Tower shooter, too. 1960′s?
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M40-A1
Dec. 21, 2012 at 4:41pmAmen brother. Thanks for your service. Merry Christmas.
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GodBlessed
Dec. 21, 2012 at 5:56pm@666SUCKS – Very true, look at Cuba, where I was born and raised, all the dictatorships take the guns away from the people so that they can not defend themselves against the will of the government to do and say what they please. Not in this country, do NOT allow it or we will be in the same situation soon thereafter. The UN will takeover and rule our land, China and the Russians will tell us what and when to do it. Is that what you want Piers Morgan? I would like to slap that communist bastard.
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McDigger
Dec. 21, 2012 at 6:40pmQ: What is the recreational purpose of an AR15?
A: None
Q: Why are AR15s legal in the United States?
A: Well Piers, in 1776 the United States of America was established because the people of this land were being controlled by a tyrant. Because our people were armed, we were able to fight off tyranny. Because our forefathers knew that powers will corrupt, they installed the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution so if the U.S. Government became a tyrannical being, citizens would liberate themselves.
Q: Do you really think the US would turn tyrannical?
A: Less than 70 years ago, Germany was putting their citizens in Nazi Death Camps to exterminate a race.
Piers, we whipped your a$$es in 1776, and our citizens are prepared to whip your a$$ in 2013. And the AR15 is the best gun to have when it happens again.
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hpyagl
Dec. 21, 2012 at 7:12pmI can shoot my Ruger 10/22 faster than my AR-15. If I lost my beloved 10/22, I would really be sad.
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scribblelicious
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:51amCain got his azz handed to him. The question of why more guns equal less crime is true when the US has by far the most guns and by far the most gun violence in the world stumped him as it does all gun advocates. Their only recourse to that question is to deflect the argument.
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59 Fender Pro
Dec. 20, 2012 at 2:18amThe Us is neither #1 for total gun deaths nor for per capita. This figure does not include countries at war either, so your premise is false. Per capita the US ranks 26th in gun deaths. Those figures are from the BBC, so I guess Piers can’t even get his homeland to back his lies.
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searcher619
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:01amWrong. Fact is even though we have more LEGAL gun ownership violent crime across the board has been gradually DECREASING not increasing. you’d see this yourself if you actually wanted to know the truth and visit the DoJ’s website. They have crime stats going back decades. the trend is down not up. Another FACT is that cities with the strictest gun laws also happen to be the ones with the the most crime and gun related crime. Just look at Chicago. their crime rate is insane and they make it incredibly difficult for law abiding citizens to obtain a gun. You may also want to read this:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/17/why-im-against-gun-control/
http://www.largo.org/klecksum.html
http://www.cepr.org/meets/wkcn/9/979/papers/Buonnano_etal.pdf
ALL the studies and stats show Morgan and YOU to be completely wrong and full of crap.
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Black Horse
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:01amScrabblebrain, that is close to the biggest load of crap I have ever heard. The country of Morgan’s birth suffered a 300% increase in violent crimes after their gun ban. Look it up, chump.
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Trigus
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:08amMaybe Piers should take a second and swallow, then seek what the UK Home Office published on 2011 Crimes committed in UK and Whales involving a firearm. The number is 11,726 crimes committed with a firearm. How you think that firearm ban is working out Piers?
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Dr Vel
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:11amPro gun people had better start getting people to speak their side who actually know the subject. Or lose. Weapons made to look mean are not assault weapons. Period. Why? Because they fire from a closed bolt. One shot per pull of the trigger. The answer was, how many times can you pull the trigger in one second. Cain get the hell off TV you are hurting the cause because you are too stupid to study the subject before you go on air. Assault weapons fire from an open bolt. Otherwise people would be shooting their friends, or their feet off, or whichever direction the weapon was pointed after they ceased fire. The glowing hot chamber sets off a round, the very reason full auto weapons fire from an open bolt. This is the correct definition of an assault weapon, i.e., a weapon designed for war. One that can be selected for full auto fire, not disconnecting the sear until you let off the trigger. What they look like has nothing to do with the definition. Fools defending our freedom from tyranny. NRA, if you speak get smart. Change to conversation from one of mindless hysteria without knowledge, and inform people of the facts. Get the facts out the media is hiding. Show statistics of uses of a gun where crime was stopped in its tracks. Show statistics of crime where people cannot defend themselves and show them in places where they can. Stop allowing those set on destroying our freedoms to control the conversation.
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libsrparasites
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:12am@scribble
scribble must be one of those “low information” voters that obama catered to in the election.
The US is nowhere near to top in guns deaths per capita.
The US doesnt even rank in the top 25!
When you have to lie to further your argument, do you really have an argument at all scribble?
You and your leftist friends are awash in the blood of those babies with your vaunted free fires zones (aka “gun free zones”) and now you are feasting on their corpses with you gun control narrative.
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Dano.50
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:32amIf you think the U.S. is the country with the most gun violence in the world, I don’t care where you’ll say you’ve traveled, I’ll call you on it.
What the U.S. has a media system that shows every little incident.
You want to see gun violence go to the Honduras, in fact go to almost any Latin American country from Mexico on south, an visit South America while you’re at it.
Go to just about any African country.
And while I’ve never been to Russia, China, or any communist country for that matter so I can’t say, I have to admit I’ve never seen any reports of gun violence.
Which is probably because the people aren’t allowed to have guns there.
Come to think of it though, those Russian mobs sure seem to be pretty well armed.
And aren’t all those communist countries brutal dictatorships with gulags and reeducation camps and such?
One thing I do know for a fact, is in rural Russia people are terrified of wolves cause, for some strange reason, wolves have no fear of hunting humans there.
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00100111
Dec. 20, 2012 at 10:11amExcept that you’re lying when you say that the US is highest in gun violence. Violence is violence, how is dying from a bullet less dead than by a knife, blunt object, bomb, car, anything else? You libbies put violence in these classes, but forget the obvious that it’s all violence. You need to address the why, not the what. But you have a narrative, and if you look at facts it obfuscates your rhetoric. It must really suck being you.
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kenboo1
Dec. 20, 2012 at 2:06pmAdditionally – Who protects you from the police and criminals when they are the only ones with guns?
http://www.policemisconduct.net/
Little Rock, Arkansas: An officer faces a third-degree battery charge stemming from a domestic incident. ow.ly/geBHT
Naples, Florida: An officer was arrested by deputies for driving under the influence and resisting an officer with violence. “It’s unfortunate that one of our officers is involved in this type of situation when it’s something we work very hard at combating on a daily basis,” said the police chief. ow.ly/geASm
Waterloo, Illinois: A state police officer was charged with aggravated domestic battery and unlawful restraint. He is accused of choking his girlfriend, and preventing her from leaving his house. ow.ly/geAD1
Milwaukee, Wisconsin: An officer with 8 years on the department was arrested on suspicion of theft while on duty and misconduct in public officer. He is currently suspended with pay, per state law. ow.ly/geqAs
Update: Delaware, Ohio: A highway patrol trooper and a sheriff’s deputy have been convicted of dereliction of duty in relation to an intoxicated man who was taken to a fast-food restaurant and was later struck and killed by a vehicle. ow.ly/gegvY
Dover Township, Pennsylvania: A state police trooper is facing criminal charges and has been suspended without pay after a domestic incident was sparked over Facebook. ow.ly/ge9rd
Don’t be stupid – protect yourself!!!
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piper60
Dec. 21, 2012 at 6:16ame don’t have to justify our gun right to some little tin God in terms of sporting purposes or hunting. A right is a right whether the bedwetters like it or not.
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Speak without Fear
Dec. 22, 2012 at 11:59amNice try. You forgot to factor in all the “Gun Free Zones” in our enlightended inner cities in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles. And you also have to take into account the dramatic drop in the gun crime rates in Florida, Ohio, Texas, et al. (that means all the rest) the introduced CCW legislation to restore gun rights to the state’s citizens. But most of all, you forgot the real reason for the Second Amendment – a reason so important that it shall not be infringed by any governmental edict – and that is the ability of the citizenry to defend itself against a tryrannical government. Without the Second Amendment, you will not have the other Nine for very long.
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joeschmo
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:51amSeriously, what are you going to do? You couldn’t get enough conservatives to vote out the worst president in American history. Obama will ban your guns. You will have to hide them. You won’t be able to buy ammo anyways. America is turning into a socialist state and you aren’t going to do anything. Do you know why? Conservatives lack leadership. America lacks leadership. We need leaders who are selfless, not selfish and egotistic. Until that great man rises, we are doomed. The question is, what did you do for your country today? Did you speak out to others trying to save our nation? I have lost 1/2 my friends on facebook since the election and speaking out daily against the criminals in the White House. I have risked my job in doing so also. I joined the NRA for the first time the other day. The fight has started. What have you done to save your country? Rise up or the liberals will rise above you!
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subic
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:21amGun violence kills?, So does suicide, drug OD’s, car wrecks, stabbings, drownings, falling off roofs, car /deer crashes, bee stings, snakebites, & on and on, & on & on. Ask Obama if he’s going to shed some fake tears for the nearly 200 children he has killed with his drone strikes in Pakistan and missile strikes in Lybia.
Obama is a hollow hypocrite using this CT tragedy to push his communist agenda.
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DRSAVAGE24
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:22amYou know you’re over the target when you’re taking fire. This is the second interview I’ve seen this a-hole do since the Newtown shooting and there are a couple of common threads: 1) He constantly interrupts his guests in the middle of their answers and 2) He likes to engage in name-calling.
When you have to stoop to those levels, it is pretty clear that you know you have no comeback and you can’t win the argument on logic. Thus, you have nothing left but to silence and ridicule your opponent.
When he says, with crocodile tears, “We have to at least try…” Yes, we do need to at least try…try allowing teachers and staff to carry concealed weapons if they are properly trained so that potential mass murderers will think twice about targeting a school knowing that there is a possibility someone will shoot back at them. Instead, Piers wants to do the opposite and impose even more gun control, which will inevitably lead to more senseless tragedies.
They had gun control on the Sandy Hook Elementary School campus and 26 people are dead because of it.
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lani59
Dec. 20, 2012 at 2:03amMorgan is just another pompus Brit who I feel has two choices, either go back to your bloody gun free UK or S-T-F-U.
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19RANDY59
Dec. 20, 2012 at 2:48amThey(the left) never let a crisis go to waste. I feel the only way back to a constitutional republic is going to be with armed revolution. The only way that these libs can get into office, has got to be through voter fraud, or manipulating the system.
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nzkiwi
Dec. 20, 2012 at 3:06am@ Drsavage
I agree with you entirely. The leftists have seized upon this terrible tragedy as their best opportunity to proceed with their disarmament of the American people. True, they are not going for a total ban right now, but they are trying to get the camel’s nose into the tent.
They know that if they cannot succeed after this tragedy, then their subsequent chances of success are nil. Therefore, expect a total commitment of effort from them at this time. No lesser person than the Vice President has be charged with acheiving this objective.
In my country it is extremely difficult for anybody to own a pistol. It is not theoretically impossible, but it is practically so. The groups of people who have pistols in any number are the police (who must get permission to tool up) and crimnal gangs. And people still get murdered.
I wonder how many of the parents or relatives of those poor souls who were murdered at the Sandy Hook school wish that the teachers had been armed, or that there had been an armed security guard on duty.
I am not suggesting for one moment that the grief-stricken should be dragged into this grubby political stoush, but if I were one such parent I know what my wish would be.
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TopFlightSecurity
Dec. 20, 2012 at 3:10amWhy has no one stated the obvious and told Piers that if he doesn’t like our constitution he can go back to his country. He does not have a dog in this fight and his opinion does not matter.
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RepubliCorp
Dec. 20, 2012 at 4:33amThose who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who didn’t. Ben Franklin
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RedHarley
Dec. 20, 2012 at 6:22amOf course, as always, everyone on the left is trying to use this tragedy to control the GUNS. It is the GUNS…..it is always the GUNS.
If that is the case, numbnuts like Piers Morgan need to be made to explain why the parents in the Sandy Hook district felt their children were safer when the district re-opened this week and there was a GUN in every school. There was a police officer stationed at each school, and each and every one was armed. Would the parents have felt safer if the officers were unarmed ? Obviously not. It was the not the presence of the officer, it was the presence of the GUN…….and if given the choice of whether the officers were armed with a .22 revolver or an AR with a 30 round mag I bet the parents would choose the AR.
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MittensKittens
Dec. 20, 2012 at 7:02amHere’s why you may need an AR-15…remember the famous bank robbery back in California back in 1997…the cops weren’t even prepared with enough firepower to handle what the bad guys had…consequently there WAS a ban on “full-auto” weapons…that didn’t stop the bad guy then, and won’t today. That’s why law abiding citizens need access, cause BG’s are gonna get them regardless if the gubberment creates BS laws or not…
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DoGooder
Dec. 20, 2012 at 7:53amOver 2000 unborn children a day loose their lives in the United States! Obama does not shed a tear for them! We must ban abortion if we must band guns. Same principle.
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ginger100
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:01amTo answer the question the communist brit asked, it has the same characteristics of a semi automatic handgun 1911 and it fires a bullet as fast as you pull a trigger. I have seen excellent marksman fire two rounds with a colt in 1 second
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HYk-NbGnK8
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HappyConservative
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:01amI’m sick and tired of brits trying to tell us how to run our country. Go back to hte U.K, Morgan and take Martin Bashir with you!!!!
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naughtycal
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:03amHow many people can GMC truck run over is a second
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naughtycal
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:07amThe moment he pushes against the 2cd amendmnet is the moment the NRA and droves of citizens files for an impeachment and put Congress on trial as well for not following their oath and protecting the Constitution from enemies both foriegn and domestic.
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rangerskippy
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:09amMorgan is another that has no idea of what he is talking about.
He suffers from Hoplophobia.
The M4 does not fire any faster than my .22 squirrel rifle. It does not fire any faster than the M1 Carbine used in WWII.
In the 1950s, you could walk into a hardware store, and purchase M1Carbines and you could get 20 and 30 round magazines for it. Kids did not take em to school and slaughter each other.
The “gun” is not the problem. We got rid of prayer, Bible, and the Ten Commandments, and sit back and wonder why these things happen.
While one of these incidents is too many, they are very rare. More kids drowned in their own swimming pools and bath tubs than die of gun violence, but then again, socialists cannot get full power by outlawing swimming pools.
Black Americans make up 12.5% of the population, they do half the nation’s murders. If we dropped black murder rates to the same as whites, we would drop the nation’s murder rates by almost 40%. You will never hear a lib tell you that, knowing that doing so would also save a lot of black lives.
Most gun murders are done with a cheap semi auto hand gun, not a battle carbine.
“Assault rifle” is not a gun term, it is a political term. Go to a gun store, and ask for an “assault rifle”, and they will send you packing. AR is for Armalite, the company that designed the M16 family of rifles.
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PA PATRIOT
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:20amHey Pierce
You have been in this country 6 years too long.
If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Go home and ask a “bobby” for help.
Oh how many rounds you ask?
None if I dont pull the trigger.
Horses Ass
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PA PATRIOT
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:26amIt is this kind of vile rhetoric that upsets the mentally ill gun crowd. (sic)
See how many mass murders will occur today because Morgan wants to have an “Adult Conversation” about gun control.
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ambrosia
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:38amPorker Piers-
just another no-talent eavesdropping, socialist pig
demanding Americans feed off his liberal trough
while
pretending to be a man of reason
and of clear conscience.
What’s that Popeye says, “Blow me away, Bluto” ?
Someone needs to throw a net around Piers
& drag him off shore to suck seaweed & swim with the rest of the pirana-
the English Channel awaits.
Go back & pester the Royal Family, dorkbag
& leave the American family to fend for themselves !
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Stab_friendly
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:40amI heard the same shtick 4 years ago….
Still nothing, so your fear mongrring is completely untrue, but keep on blazin!!!
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Black Horse
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:48amJoe,
I really appreciate that you’re fighting the good fight. I have been at it for years and was a member of the fledgling Tea Party movement when it first got started, demonstrations and all. I have also suffered ridicule, lost “friends”, etc. It’s part of the deal. I live in a blue state (Washington) and have two absolutely useless pieces of crap for senators. The idiots in Seattle, Olympia and Tacoma just keep on electing them and there seems to be nothing we can do. Hang in there, Joe. We will prevail – although it’s going to cost dear, I’m afraid.
Rangerskippy, I bought an M1 Carbine a few years ago at a sporting goods store. Manufactured in June of 1946. It’s extremely fun to shoot, although really only good if you’re being overrun. Not a distance shooter, but you are correct. It’s rate of fire is no faster than my grandson’s Ruger 10/22. Since the rounds resemble a long 9MM round, not great for hunting either. But fun as all getout!
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searcher619
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:55amTalk about a crappy argument. PEOPLE kill. How many people were killed by cars vs rifles? Shall we ban cars? People like you are what are called useful idiots. Obama can never take anyone’s legally obtained guns. Let him try. It would be the beginning of the next American revolution. Fact is Obama won re-election by a small margin. Less people came out to vote FOR him than in his last election. Less conservatives came out to vote YET just under half of the people who did turn out to vote voted Romney NOT Obama. That should tell even someone with the limited mental capacity you have something.
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BarbieBabe
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:03amGuns don’t kill people kill. Look at the gun deaths in Chicago. Dozens on a weekly basis. Chicago has the strictest gun regulations in the county but it doesn’t stop the violence. If everybody had a gun the crooks would think twice before walking into your house. The 2nd amendment was to protect the citizens from the government. Make sure you keep your guns, you will probably need them in the not to distance future.
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Fubared
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:25amObama is the world’s best firearms and ammo seller hands down. He has sold more weapons, aside from F&F and Syria and Egypt than any one man, ever. Just one more accolade for the stellar POS.
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trustintheconstitution
Dec. 20, 2012 at 11:07amwell its a good thing i was part of the rush of americans to go get more permits, and start purchasing a larger stock pile. i am also an american with safes and biometric locks
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SandW
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:07pmWho is John Galt? His time has come……..
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CallMeTheBreeze
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:46am[1] As Long As Gangs, Drug Dealers, Illegal Immigrants, Low-Life Wise Guys, ETC; Carry FULL-AUTO As Well A Semiautomatic Firearms I Demand To Have The Right To Defend Myself With At Least A Semiautomatic Assault Rifle! That’s All I Ask;To Protect Myself From Home Invasion.
[2] The Left’s Idea Of Banning Semi-Auto’s For “Public Safety”, Is A Cover. The Real Reason Is “Political Punishment” And “Political Revenge”. They Do Not Want Us Enjoying Shooting, Cleaning, Upgrading Or Just Admiring Our Choice Of Firearms. When They Tax Us, Deprive Us, Control Us, Then They Are Happy.
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naughtycal
Dec. 20, 2012 at 9:27amMost of those killers you name make their living off of the vices Government have deemed illegal. What if those vices were legal? Who that stopped some of the territorial ******* via gang violence. Or would the influx of new drug addicts produce even more violence.
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Metatron
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:44amOK , I just need to say this.
Why hasn’t anyone called Piers out on his misrepresentation of the facts. Piers states that the AR 15 is a machinegun. He has also stated that it is an Assault Rifle. An assault riffle is a select-fire weapon that can be selected from semi auto to full auto. A machine gun is fully automatic weapon. The AR 15 is neither and will jam if too many rounds are fired too fast. The AR 15 is a semi auto weapon. Peirs needs to fact check before he sites hysteria. The AR 15 is defined as an assault weapon but it is based purely on looks. Someone please call him out on this. Any ban on weapons in this class will mean that more weapons will be on the black market where there is definitely no background checks.
One more thing. A gun safe and gun locks would have more of an an impact than another usless ban that will put more guns in the hands of criminals.
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GhostOfJefferson
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:29amWho would call him out? He and the Left have brainwashed zombies behind every microphone and in front of every camera.
““Why does any American need one of these AR-15s? What possible protection can that kind of thing offer them? It’s a military rifle,” Morgan began.”
This is the height of stupid. Can anybody else see the contradiction in what this snarky mediocrity said here? If “military rifles” don’t offer protection, then why would the military use them? Duh? And the AR-15 is not a military rifle, it’s semi-auto only. The M-16/M-4 is a military rifle. These idiots are stunning not only in their ignorance, but in their constant effeminate “outrage”.
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SHASTADIANE1
Dec. 20, 2012 at 10:08amAbsolutely right Metatron. I was reading and looking for a comment by someone who pointed this out. And how many times will an AR15 fire in a second? Depends on how many times YOU can pull the trigger in that time frame. Once??? Twice??? Some of these talking heads need to study up on their subjects before they get out there and start spouting off. Truth is, they don’t care about facts, they only want to promote their agenda.
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nesmond
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:43amWhy are we even talking about this sissy little nancy boy? He is more woman than man.
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Glenn_S
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:46pmTrue. But luckily for him, when CNN finally cans him due to his in-the-toilet ratings, he can score a fall back gig as a community college women’s basketball player. :)
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resme
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:35amPiers openly spew his filth everyday…. Go back to Europe redcoat trash
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1RealAmerican
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:40amI will even buy this idiot the ticket if it will get him the hell out of MY country….
Just sayin….
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nzkiwi
Dec. 20, 2012 at 5:49amSending Mr Morgan back to the UK might make one feel better, but the problem is a lot larger than just that one man…
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/12/18/China-Demands-US-Citizens-Be-Disarmed
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nzkiwi
Dec. 20, 2012 at 6:04amAs one can see, I’ve been over at Breitbart where they are getting stuck in to Mr Morgan.
In this clip he is reduced to name-calling and other insults. He clearly loses this little debate…
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/12/19/Piers-Morgan-Flips-Out-Over-Gun-Control
And then there is this little gem. I’m willing to believe that Mr Morgan was being sarcastic, as even he cannot be that unfeeling, but it doesn’t play well…
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/12/19/Piers-Morgan-of-course-gleeful-a-tragedy-happened
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SickOfLiberals
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:34amPiers Morgan hates to have opposing opinions correct his ignorance so he stops the conversation. Morgan is your typical liberal who screams down those who give facts to contradict his bs. He can’t handle the truth!!
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Living In NYC
Dec. 20, 2012 at 7:09amAgreed….Scream, Scream and Scream some more…totally shows ignorance!
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Al J Zira
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:32amWhy do we have a right to bear arms? Because:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/why-is-an-arkansas-city-deploying-police-with-ar-15s-demand-citizens-show-i-d-on-the-streets/
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DougOS2
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:30amI don’t think Pier Morgan knows the meaning of the word semi-automatic.
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Kupo
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:19amPretty much this. It was repeated over and over that the AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle, meaning that it can only fire bullets as fast as the shooter can pull the trigger – certainly nowhere close to 47 rounds per second. Maybe 5 rounds per second? Yes, it can be modified for automatic fire, but so can any semi-automatic weapon. If you ban AR-15′s on the basis that they can be modified for automatic fire then you can also ban a glock or a beretta handgun under the same bases.
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Kupo
Dec. 20, 2012 at 2:06amOk I guess I misunderstood Piers’ thick accent. WHile it’s true that you can fire 4-6 rounds per second from an AR-15, you can do the same thing with any semi-automatic weapon, but you won’t be doing so with any amount of accuracy.
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Sgt_Rock
Dec. 20, 2012 at 5:43am@kupo – Posted on December 20, 2012 at 1:19am
“Yes, it can be modified for automatic fire, but so can any semi-automatic weapon.”
That is only partially true, Colt’s civilian AR has a modified bolt carrier and a block in the lower receiver to prohibit the installation of any full auto parts. The disconnector, hammer, trigger and selector are all different and possession of ANY full-auto parts is a federal crime unless you have a class III permit to own, manufacture or repair such weapons;
- 49 U.S.C. 781-788, 26 U.S.C. 5861, 26 U.S.C. 5872 – Violators may be fined not more than $250,000, and imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. In addition, any vessel, vehicle or aircraft used to transport, conceal or possess an unregistered NFA firearm is subject to seizure and forfeiture, as is the weapon itself. -
The civilian AR platforms are difficult to convert, simply because the parts are so hard to get. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a crook, lying, or they’re a federal agent trying to roll you up…or all of the above.
Reality is this, full auto is a waste. A trained shooter will, in all likelihood fire any select-fire (semi-auto/full auto) weapon on semi-auto, in two round “double taps.” It’s what we used to call a “minimum response.” No seasoned operator fires a rifle on full auto other than at the range. When you are in the grease, you want the rounds to count, you only carry so much ammo and you only want to use enough to do the job.
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Pickles327
Dec. 20, 2012 at 7:15amWonder what Mr Morgan would think if I said I own a PWA commando or NX Bushmaster ? Then ask him what is an AR ? who invented it lol Stoner,, he would not know the difference between any of these and put a riot shot gun next it these ask him to tell you what each are …
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Black Horse
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:59amSarge, we were taught in basic to use three round bursts in semi-auto, not auto-hit-something. Double-taps work great, too. You nailed it – only an untrained shooter, a panicked shooter or someone with unlimited ammo shoots on full auto. It’s idotic. Any good shooter knows you pick your targets and conserve ammo. Ask any good sniper if he needs an automatic weapon.
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Dismayed Veteran
Dec. 20, 2012 at 11:33amSGT
I learned to shoot with the M16A1. We were taught to use controlled firing of 3 rounds of aimed firing. While we did fire full automatic, it was abundantly clear that you would expend most your ammo very quickly. If I recall correctly, a 20 round magazine was only loaded with 18 rounds to prevent a jam in the magazine. We had two ammo pouches capable of carrying 4 magazines each.
The math is simple 18 rounds x 4 magazines x 2 pouches = 144 rounds. Full auto firing burns through the rounds quickly. Then you had to reload the magazines.
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The Scarecrow
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:41pmI would like to know the name of the experts morgan talked to that told him an AR can fire 4-6 rounds a second. It will only as fast as a person can pull the trigger. I can’t believe anyone can pull a trigger 4-6 times in a second. Sure a full auto can but we are not talking full auto here. You can’t go to Wal-mart and buy a full auto.
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Ge0rgiaB0y
Dec. 20, 2012 at 4:48pmI don’t think Piers understands the meaning of the Constitution. Ergo he is incompetenet to discuss the matter and explains his qualification to hold his position in the MSM.
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Ge0rgiaB0y
Dec. 20, 2012 at 5:33pmThe AR-15 can fire 4-6 rounds a second. It cannot be sustained and is highly inaccurate. The fact that a shooter cannot obtain a good sight picture and fire that quickly is lost completely. It’s the equivalent of Piers talking and assuming his is making a valid arguement….
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Aceofshades
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:29amThis makes me want to murder this man with a chair… Now I know it’s not the Christian thing to do, and I’m not going to act on it, but his ignorance/arrogance makes my blood boil. The only other time I was this upset was when Seattle won the game against Greenbay because of the replacement refs.
The real answer to his question is as fast as the cycle rate will allow. Some people say they can pull off 5 to 6 rounds a second. If you actually do that, you will be hitting things as accurately as the A-team did. My AK can do the same as the AR, and so can my Remington 750.
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Woodman9
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:27amPiers Morgan is the quintessential emotion based liberal who throws around epithets like “ridiculous” and “incoherent” as if he is making his case. He is so ridiculous and incoherent that he can’t make a case. I keep waiting for conservatives to hold their feet to the fire when they use words like that but they never do it. It aggravates me to no end. This is the last guy on the planet that should be hosting a show like this. Hey Piers, I think we were done with you a long time ago. Time to head back to the UK with your ridiculous and incoherent comments.
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cmonpeople
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:39amwhat is your point?
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Apple Bite
Dec. 21, 2012 at 7:57am*pointing back across the pond*
Morgan needs to pack his crap and go back home. The Queen is not impressed. Add one of those hashtag thingies at your own leisure.
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BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:17am3000 people were killed on 911; 6 or 7 were young children. The weapons of choice were 4 Boeing 767′s. Last time I checked- not only do we still use them, no one has requested a ban on them.
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cmonpeople
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:27amWhile we’re at it cars should go too! trying to come up with something to say other than: “Don’t be an illogical, overreacting nitwit, but i can’t. How this type of statement makes you or the cause seem intelligent is beyond me. If this is the best argument you have…quit now.
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oldguy49
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:27amquestion mr. morgan……do you or anyone around you {bodyguard etc.} carry a gun?……………….if the answer is yes , what gives you the right to protect yourself and deny me mine
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DocQuixote
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:11amHow many media outlets told the true story of the Clackamas Mall shooting that occurred a few days before the CT shooting? When the shooters gun jammed a 22 year old with a concealed hand gun license stepped out from behind a column and drew his gun on the shooter. Seeing motion behind the shooter he did not kill him in fear of hitting someone else. The shooter ran off and killed himself.
Here is the article from the Oregonian. http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2012/12/security_guard_said_he_had_rob.html
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NOT A CRAZY
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:25amWhy would they tell the truth when all it will do is hurt their agenda?
HEY PIERS…WE DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK!!! GO HOME!!! YOU ARE WHY WE ARE AMERICAN’S YOU FREAKING DONK!!!!
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TJexcite
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:09amGive it time and when you want one you have to get a medical clearance to prove that you do not have mental problems. As well as one from every person in the house, neighbors house and everyone within 5 miles of your house. And if anyone fails and is, you can not have one as they might steal yours from your locked gun safe.
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dnewton
Dec. 21, 2012 at 1:47amMay pilots were afraid of having to go through a psychological testing system that would prevent them from buying or carrying a weapon legally. They did not trust the government to use the system fairly, especially when there seemed to be an idea that reinforcing the cabin doors was good enough for government work. A cynical person like myself might expect the government to set up a similar threatening system that would deter any teacher or administrator from having a weapon at school in the same way that some pilots were deterred from carrying weapons in the cockpit.
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poidog22
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:08amWow. Send Piers back to the UK. What a moron trying to talk over people. If you have a different view point, so be it. But lets talk about it rationally and with FACTS. Don’t try to dominate the conversation raising your voice.
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BHOHG2G
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:19pmThis is the liberal way . Raise your voice, talk over you,interrupt constantly, start name calling . And then tell you they want to have a discussion. And when you do make a valid clear point they roll their eyes , laugh and shine you on. I see it hear, on the news and on talk radio every day.
These people are not about to change their minds no matter what!
If a bus driver drove a bus load of kids off a cliff, they’d still want to ban guns.
For Gods sake people. Stop trying to reason with these people. They are frustrated they can’t have their way with us because we are still armed. They are the way they are because it works for them.
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Cavallo
Dec. 19, 2012 at 11:57pm“A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.”
– Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
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cmonpeople
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:22amso…no licensing or registration?
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DevilDog54
Dec. 20, 2012 at 4:37pm@cmonpeople … the Constitution does not qualify ownership or the right to bear arms with licensing or registration. Those are liberal qualifiers that we have allowed to be pushed down our throats without much of a fight.
Perhaps you would have the govt require that you license and register your cordless nail gun because it too can fire single shots in rapid succession and just as likely to kill as a bullet. Further, maybe they should limit the number of nails you can load into the nail gun to ensure you don’t go on a murder spree, even though you only use it to quickly build things of wood and provide an income to feed, cloth, house and protect your family.
Your foolish crackpot responses are nothing but agonizingly ineffectual arguments without substance or logic.
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casventures
Dec. 19, 2012 at 11:56pmpiers is a fool. Go back to the UK. There you can fight the cult of islam. piers your count on bullits per sec. is wrong. No one can pull the trigger 6 times in one second.
Go back to the UK.
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1TrueOne55
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:16amPiers goes from wanting to know the answer to how many bullets does a semi-auto AR-15 fire, the answer is 1. He then claims that his experts have told him that the AR 15 fires 4-6 per second and 100 per minute, that’s not even the rate of fire for the M-16 Battle Rifle issued to our soldiers that go to Afghanistan or even the British SAS that went to the Falklands.
And if it were not for the American People sending weapons to Britain in WWII in the chance that Hitler was going to invade he might not be here speaking english. It was the Semi-Automatic Enfield that Soldiers used in WWII that saved his Country and our M1 Garand and .30 Cal Carbine that saved Europe from Fascism.
But back to the cyclic rate of the discussion. He lied even to his audience because he had no facts to quote because he did not research his subject.
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TSUNAMI_22
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:55pm@ 1TrueOne55
Piers understands the concept that the first liar usually wins. Facts don’t matter.
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devorejm
Dec. 19, 2012 at 11:52pmhave we as a country devolved to the state where we make decisions based on emotion and not fact? is that really how decisions are made now? really?
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Trail_Jumper
Dec. 20, 2012 at 4:49amUnfortunately yes. So much for logic and critical thinking.
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Ignatius J. Reilly
Dec. 19, 2012 at 11:52pmwhat the hell is a “harmless old hunting rifle”? this is the idiocy of the left. i’ve never heard any weapon owner refer to any weapon as harmless when used by the untrained or the criminal.
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Merry52277
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:41amI am so glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed that. Any weapon in the hands of a homicidal maniac becomes harmful not harmless. What a bunch of idiots, I am so tired of people that take these morons seriously. I would go further to say a microphone in the hand of an illogical idiot is very harmful.
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TH30PH1LUS
Dec. 20, 2012 at 4:09amwell said
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searching for the Truth
Dec. 19, 2012 at 11:51pmOK. I apologize to the Blaze, Only.
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searching for the Truth
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:10amWasn’t really angry anyway – Got to remember – if not a Perfect Storm , most definitely a Perfect Wave. The wave is what I’m hoping for ; the storm is what I don’t want – many generations into the future.
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daxbrady
Dec. 19, 2012 at 11:46pmwas that Piers or Chris Mathews? LMAO Its clear that Piers is trying to make a name for himself and at the same time affect his dismal ratings on cnn. Most americans are not impressed with a british guy preaching to them about what we should do about guns.
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devorejm
Dec. 19, 2012 at 11:42pmPiers morgan is an idiot. most any semi-auto weapon can fire at a high rate, so long as someone can pull the trigger. the guns were a tool . used by a person to commit this savage act. stop blaming the tool and blame the person who uses it.
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kaimana
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:00amAgreed Peirs is pathetic.
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devorejm
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:15ami used to drink alot…should i blame the bottle and those who manufactured it? no…..it rests soley on me…and the decisions i make.
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LONGHOTSUMMER
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:02amThe limey meddler needs to take a long walk off of a short pier and swim home.
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Cavallo
Dec. 19, 2012 at 11:41pm“Why does any American need one of these AR-15s? What possible protection can that kind of thing offer them? It’s a military rifle,” Morgan began
To overthrow the government when National Socialists take over and attempt to remove what is left of our rights, as the amendment intended. However, to Fascists like Morgan, disobeying a tyrannical State would be heresy since his god is The State. How could he raise a hand against his god?
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Al J Zira
Dec. 20, 2012 at 12:30amWould have been cool if Cain had said that just to see the response. You would hear crickets.
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TH30PH1LUS
Dec. 20, 2012 at 4:11amYes you perfectly described the purpose for which the 2nd Ammendment was written.
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Carbine
Dec. 20, 2012 at 8:16amI completely agree. Morgan is merely a pawn spouting the commie line from the WH. His tactics are abhorrent. If he were trying that in the street someone would kick his ****. Maybe he should just go back to the UK where life is Utopian!
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TSUNAMI_22
Dec. 20, 2012 at 1:48pm@ Cavallo
Well put.
I just wish the people on our side would actually SAY EXACTLY THAT right to the president’s face, because at that instant the politicians will understand that we’ve had enough nonsense and that THEY are the one’s who should be on the defensive.
Look at England. They are SUBJECTS, not citizens.
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banjarmon
Dec. 19, 2012 at 11:38pmANY LAW or RULE that INFRINGES ON MY RIGHT TO OWN AND BEAR ARMS IS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!! Mr morgan go back to the UK!!
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