‘You Are a Dangerous Man…and You Shame Your Country’: CNN Anchor Lashes Out at Gun Lobby Director
CNN’s Piers Morgan on Tuesday went head-to-head with the executive director of a pro-gun organization, at one point calling him a “dangerous man” who brings “shame” to his country in the wake of the Newtown massacre.
Larry Pratt, head of Gun Owners of America, started off his appearance on “Piers Morgan Tonight” by saying America needs to “ban gun control laws that keep people from being able to protect themselves.”
“The problem is not going to go away if we ban this or that gun,” Pratt said. “We’ve tried that, that doesn’t work. Doesn’t even work in England. You have mass murders there all over Europe, there have been mass murderers.”
Morgan said Pratt was talking “complete and utter nonsense” and said the gun murder rates in Britain, Germany or Australia are far lower than that in the U.S. — “75 against 12,000 in Australia.”
Pratt conceded that the gun murder rate in those countries is indeed lower than the U.S., but that the violent crime rate is higher.
“America is not the Wild West that you are depicting. We only have the problems in our cities, and unhappily, in our schools where people like you have been able to get laws put on the books that keep people from being able to defend themselves,” he said. “I honestly don’t understand why you would rather have people be victims of a crime than be able to defend themselves. It’s incomprehensible.”
“You’re an unbelievably stupid man, aren’t you?” Morgan asked.
Pratt shot back that Morgan was being “morally obtuse,” adding: “You seem to prefer being a victim to being able to prevail over the criminal element. And I don’t know why you want to be the criminal’s friend.”
“What a ridiculous argument. You have absolutely no coherent argument whatsoever,” Morgan said. “You don’t give a damn, do you, about the gun murder rate in America? You don’t actually care. All you care about — ”
Pratt cut in that Morgan was ignoring the facts.
“What we do know is that when you go to an area of the United States where guns are freely available, readily able to be carried legally, there you find our lowest murder rates, lower than the murder rates in Europe. You go to our cities where we have cracked down on guns, and that’s where criminals have a field day,” he said.
Morgan later said he wasn’t arguing about Americans’ rights to defend themselves in the home, but that there is “no use and no justification for these AR-15-type assault weapons.”
“There are these assault weapons which have been used now in movie theaters, in shopping malls, in elementary schools to murder many, many Americans,” he said. “Your only answer, Mr. Pratt, to people that want to get rid of both the magazines and these assault weapons, if I’m not mistaken is to let everybody else have similar weapons. Is that the solution to America’s gun murder problem?
Pratt said Morgan was “talking against self-defense” and “against people being able to protect themselves.”
“Post what happened at Sandy Hook,” Morgan said. “Your answer to this problem of repeated use of this weapon with these high-capacity magazines is to continue letting Americans buy them with impunity, and to not concern yourself with these mass shootings, is that right?”
“The Second Amendment means what it says, and meanwhile, you want to continue laws against self-defense,” Pratt said. “Laws that prohibit self-defense. Laws that prohibit teachers and other faculty, other members of the administration in schools from being able to defend themselves if they have a concealed carry permit. The laws prohibit them right now. We have been lobbying against those laws since they were put on. We will continue to do so, pointing out that that is where the problem is. And for you to support them means that you’re really blind to the role that that plays in enabling murders to operate with impunity.”
Morgan responded that he knows “why sales of these weapons have been soaring in the last few days — it’s down to idiots like you.”
After Morgan thanked Pratt for coming on the show and prepared to go to commercial, Pratt thanked him for the “high-level argument…it’s really good.”
“You know what, you wouldn’t understand the meaning of the phrase high-level argument. You are a dangerous man espousing dangerous nonsense and you shame your country,” Morgan said.
CNN posted the entire segment on its website, minus the last few moments with Morgan’s “shame your country” remark. NewsBusters published an edited version that includes the final moments (scroll):
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Comments (285)
decendentof56
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:20pmJS,
Have to agree with you!!!!!!
Damn, and I really like British motorcycles.
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AvengerK
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:18pmHear that sound? That’s Morgan’s ratings circling the drain……The only stupid man in that conversation was Morgan remaining on the Titanic as it sinks.
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TexasConservative71
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 3:20pmDitto
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Dan_o
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 4:35pmWhat, it’s just good, unbiased journalism.
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yiska8
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 5:17pmI wish this CNN Queen would head back across the pond to the Queen!
Dr. Savage calls him the slimey limey. Ha!!!
And CNN liberal statist media is by far more dangerous than a gun activist.
They shoved a man illegitimately into the Presidency and ill prepared to be a leader of a small commune, let alone a nation.
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piper60
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 5:43pmFre speech is permitted as long as the thought behind it is no stupider than the average newsy. The 2nd Amendment will triumph in the end.
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Clownzilla
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 7:22pm@Encinom
Lol, are you for real? You say some really dumb things and I can’t believe you can even remember to breath. Listen, thanks for being the Blaze jester and keep the good times rolling.
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BetterInformed
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 8:21pmEncinom
Pratt is the guy who is on the “Gooffy” Brit’s show standing up for his beliefs. He goes out tomorrow and is personally confronted by his detractors and congratulated by his fellow constitutionalists. You are the anonymous bomb thrower spewing incoherent and illogical BS on one of a couple million blogs. And tomorrow you will go to your dead end job where nobody gives a **** what you think.
BTW There are so few people in Australia ( there are more people in Mexico City) that you would be hard pressed to find a “mass” to kill.
Chicago has gun control. Get yourself a nice, new, expensive pair of Nike’s and take a stroll on the south-side of Chicago. No need to worry, they only average 45 murders per month.
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encinom
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 10:24pmYeah, the paranoid beckerheads are proving they are only racist cowards. Pratt is the anti-christ, making sure that the tools of death flood americna streets.
The paranoid fringe needs to be disarmed for their own good and the good of this country.
BetterInformed
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 11:46pmEncinom
Michael Moore, the guy who dresses like a lesbien trucker, already said that. How about something original.
Try this:
“I hate all those right wing, teabaggin’, blue haired old broads. I think all those hate filled cheating Jews should be shipped off to a torturer chamber in Iran. Simply put. I can’t stand hate filled speech from intolerant racists like myself.
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The highlander
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:18pmPiers Morgans should be extradited back to England so he can spew his emasculated illogical views in the once great empire that has now devolved into a flexi-sexual socialist cesspool that is so detached from it’s Christian heritage that Islam has planted dozens of Sharia Courts through out the land. A land once occupied with strong upright men and women where now the males are feminized and the females get drunk so they can be sexually defiled by different males leaving them unsuitable for marriage and motherhood as their identity and purpose is being ripped from the lives from faceless globalist forces that will not tolerate a smart, God fearing, independent thinking, self-reliant, physically capable man or woman operating freely in the land that once fought a war against tyranny and finally lost to Marxist sexual degenerates.
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LakeHartwellSailor
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:35pmWow…that was one long run-on sentence!
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THERAPTURCOMES
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:49pmThat man is a LUNATIC NUT JOB LIBERAL and the blood of everyone of this children is on his head. Why does he not show such conviction over the murder of 50 plus million babies in the womb???
I tell you all this is a sign of the times and people like him will be left behind to face the wrath of God at the resurrection/rapture http://youtu.be/ahEVxIzlxwo
Believe the gospel before it is to late
Romans 10:9-10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rev 3:10 Because you have kept the word of my patience, I also will keep you from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
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naughtycal
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:59pmExactly any company that would allow this mana voice is a taritor to America a traitor to the Constitution and a tarder to liberty. Tell that limey POS if he wants gun control he should GO HOME. dON’T COME TO AMERICA AND TRY TO CHANGE HER INTO THE WEAK NATION OF SPINELESS CITIZEN YOU CAME FROM. IF YOU LIKE ENGLANDS LAWS GO THERE AND LIVE UNDER THEM.
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redfish52
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 1:06pmWhy do the pro-gun people go on these programs when they know that this will be the outcome…this is what progressive media does….don’t go on their shows…simple.
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AlansTigg
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 1:26pmhas anyone actually confirmed what weapon was used in CT? I realize initial reports were more wrong than right in what they reported but I seem to remember hearing the bushmaster was in the car and he had two hand guns in the school. Do we know if he actually used the bushmaster?
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zorro
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 1:28pmYou know, as we sit here on the verge of more gun control laws, I wonder how the Paul-bots & Libertarians feel about staying home instead of voting for Romney? But I bet most are stupid enough to believe Romney would handle this in the exact same manner. We’ll never know, I guess. But I do hope they’re happy.
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JRook
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 1:30pmThe statement that crime rates are lower in states where gun ownership is higher is more conservative, republican made up BS. Look at the actual data in the following. Not the moronic product of dividing crime rate by % of gun ownership. Almost across the board violent crime rate per 100,000 is higher is states that have a higher percentage of gun ownership. In both the Chardon and Newtown shooting the easy access to guns owned and maintained by family members facilitated the actions of a disturbed individual. In both cases the family member should be criminally and civilly liable for their guns not be held under lock and key. It is not a question of criminals vs. law biding citizens as in virtually every mass shooting case the accused had no criminal record. It is very much a matter of easy access to high powered weapons and unlimited ammo. Access needs to be dramatically tightened and every gun should be registered with both the federal and state governments. The registration process should be much tougher with relatively long waiting periods.
http://www.datamasher.org/mash-ups/crime-vs-gun-ownership#table-tab
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darkknight91
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 1:31pmWhat do you expect from a tea sucking Limey? He comes from a nation of effeminate men with their cowardly laws and spews his cowardly nonsense over here. When what’s left of his country collapses to the Muslims they better not come crying to us for weapons like they did when the Nazis were bombing them into the Stone Age. Our good citizens sent them guns to help them in their struggle and once the war was over, what did they do? Destroyed all OUR guns and went back to sleep. A new breed of cowards emerged from the hippy movement from whence this sissy came.
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TonyRUS
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 2:04pmLongest sentence i’ve ever read. (but accurate.)
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AvengerK
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 2:13pmyeah ummm..nice try JCROOK…
The National Academy of Sciences has reviewed hundreds of studies. They found not “a single gun regulation that reduced violent crime or murder.”
The National Center for Policy Analysis found that violent crime decreases when carry-conceal laws are in place. They found that murders “dropped by 8.5 percent, while rapes and serious assaults fell up to 7 percent in states with licensed concealed carry laws. Furthermore, if states without licensed concealed carry would institute it, then 1570 murders, 4180 rapes, and over 60,000 aggravated assaults would not happen each year.”. Spare me your Soros funded studies and websites…idiot.
Go peddle your big-government, big-brother statist drivel on Media Matters..another Soros funded crapfest.
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Berbel73
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 2:38pmJrook its idiotic progressives like yourself that led to this tragedy. Your moronic arguement doesn’t hold up and whats worst is that you know it and yet you continue to preach “gun control”. The only thing that was going to stop this deranged man was a responsible gun owner who was properly trained, but you and your progressive gun hating liberals made sure that no one there could stop him. YOU and those like you are to blame for this, PERIOD! We have the 2nd amendment in this country for a very good reason, and it’s to protect us from imbeciles like you who would leave us all defenseless in the face of real evil!
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TexasConservative71
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 3:26pmJrook, you are starting to sound like the true Nazi you are. “This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!”-Adolfo Hitler
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cosette
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 4:07pm@ JROOK ” Access needs to be tightened and every gun should be registered with the federal and state government”. How, exactly, do you suggest the authorities get the gang bangers to comply? Hummmmmm? Would you volunteer to go into the “hood”, knock on the door of every resident and announce… “I’m from the government and I’m here to make sure you are in compliance with the law. Now bring me all of your firearms so I can confirm that they are registered”. I’m sure Mr. Gang Banger will comply.
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 5:55pmBritons are 10 times more likely to be bombed the people of the US, so I hope they have bomb control laws to stop that. How about riot control laws as well as they seem to be getting quite a few of those lately. They have cameras everywhere and yet they still have people getting mugged and murdered…They have no rights so of course they don’t understand Americans having any rights.
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encinom
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 7:40pmThe little children of austraila are safe today, they no mass shootings in that country since they baned military styled weapons, the country in no more a dictatorship today than it was prir to the law being enacted. Instead we have addled brained, paranoid fools throwing hissy fits over reasonable gun control.
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Free_Thinker
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 12:47am@ ENCINOM
Here are the numbers to prove you a liar!
Australia’s Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:
In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault — Australia’s equivalent term for rape — increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia’s violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
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LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 5:54amJROOK and ENCINOM are pathetic, ignorant, blind fools with no ability to think. They’re only goal is to post outrageous lies, hijack the conversation and get us off topic. Its the progressive way, lie, lie, lie….
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TheEDGE
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:18pmWhenever a “man” as feeble and inadequate as Piers starts throwing stones, shouldn’t we, American males who haven’t been castrated and emasculated, take his words as praise. When “men” like him start judging a man like me I just figure I must be doing something right.
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vinnintx
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:58pmHERE HERE!!!! Well said “theedge.” Who does Morgan think he is? He has NO voice amongst us in our country. Shame on CNN for allowing him to have an outlet to be able to speak so negatively against our leaders. GO HOME
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The Scarecrow
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 1:27pmAll these TV “stars” and movie “stars” and “politicians” all have somebody protecting them with a gun or they themselves carry a gun. They think they are higher class and more responsible or “better” than the average person so they should be able to protect themselves but we shouldn’t. If they ban guns then these people don’t need to be protected by a gun they have or anyone protecting them has. Their bodyguards can carry a knife to protect them, which will also be eventually banned and on and on.
If criminals obeyed laws they wouldn’t be criminals. Gun laws only affect law abiding citizens rights to own guns. Like rham says “You never let a serious crisis go to waste, so to them this is just an opportunity to exploit these murders and take away our rights. obama is a crappy actor , those fake tears and pauses in his speech don’t fool us, he’s just taking advantage of the situation.
morgan needs to go back to the UK if it’s so much better there and quit biting the hand that made this two bit idiot famous.
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Sharon Rose
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:17pmIgnorance on the part of Mr. Morgan. I hope he never needs the protection he despises.
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PlowMan
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:36pmI’m sure he has the protection of a gun. But it’s not touched by him only his security. This is much like the people who want to ban the slaughter of “innocent” cattle or hogs, they want to eat but think you buy it at the store so you don’t have to slaughter any.
I have never seen this fellow from the NRA. I believe he deserves some sort of award for not loosing is cool with a man who, when he was out of facts for his view, threw insults toward him.
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vinnintx
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:59pm100% correct. I am sure he has armed body gaurds and escort services — why the need Mr. Morgan?
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The Scarecrow
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 1:06pm@plowman – This man morgan is interviewing is from Gun Owners of America which has much more integrity than the NRA. NRA has no affiliation with GOA.
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dmvzone
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:16pmPierzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz is a danger to society …can’t anyone see that??!!!!
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226crimsontrace
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:20pmProblem is, he is in our society, go home to your socialist sewer any time *******
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decendentof56
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:26pmDMV…..Yes we can, but remember that Morgan is only a small piece of the conspirators trying to grind down America.
Everyone who wants to protect themselves and their family from violent criminals (not to mention this gov) needs to join and support orgs like the NRA and GOA.
Look at what the NRTW has done. That law in Michigan didn’t get passed without pressure from NRTW and the people who support it with their wallets!
We can sit and type all day, but we need to be pro-active with our wallets.
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subic
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 1:11pmGun Owners of America & Mr Larry Pratt is a stand up organiZation.
Support them and help them stand to our ground. Call or email your state reps, let them know they should support us or we will toss em to the curb in 2014.
http://gunowners.org/
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GuruMeditation
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 3:17pmHe and those that think like him are national security threat IMHO.
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momrules
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:15pmThe Chines think we should have stricter gun control laws too.LOL
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/12/18/China-Demands-US-Citizens-Be-Disarmed
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Xiccarph
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:27pmYes, then the Chinese government can then encourage more edged weapons be exported to the US so crazies can slash & stab instead of shoot their unarmed victims. That’s what crazies in China use in their school and other public attacks…which are at least as common as our mass shootings. Obambi and his cronies can then form a task force to identify and regulate “assault sharp things”.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:34pmA generic criticism by a rival state is always du jour.
Specifically, it is extremely useful for the Chinese ruling class to deflect attention about recent mass knifings, protests & other problems of China.
School attacks in China (2010–2012)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_(2010–2011)
Hebei tractor rampage
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Blazen420
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:15pmI hope this communist bastard gets ran out of the USA. Go back to Europe you criminal!
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:18pmFrankly, from what I have heard from some British, he was already run out of England.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:25pmNo but it appears that he is getting ran out of business by his TV ratings. Anderson Cooper reruns have almost as much audience as a 1st run Piers Morgan show.LOL!
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/12/18/cable-news-ratings-for-monday-december-17-2012/162183/
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cowboy898
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:15pmWhy would he waste his time going on a leftest show? Those leftest ******** have no idea what the hell they are talking about. I’ll be willing to bet they have gun on them!
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SeekerEmerald
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:14pmAgain, as always, the Liberal’s ideology loses against facts and reality. And again the Liberal resorts to name calling when there are no facts that support his ideaology.
Morgan’s defense to Pratt’s facts are “you’re and idiot.”
Morgan’s defense to Pratt saying people have the right to defend themselves is “you are dangerous.”
How are we losing the debate to these people???
We are right, the facts prove this again and again, yet many many sheeple have been taken in by these ideological morons.
We are lost…
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Cavallo
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:27pmIt’s about presentation and performance. Facts don’t matter if you can’t express them in a clever and colorful way. The spokespeople have to learn when to mock, when to yell, and when to speak calmly. Just putting up a chart showing X Y and Z will not earn many converts. Ronald Reagan was good at making his opponents look stupid, and getting his message across with both verve and humor when needed. If the debate is to be won then playing nice has to stop. The facts are the steel of the rapier, the delivery is the finesse and point. Stab these worthless fascists in the heart.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:14pmPiers Morgan is so bad that a class action lawyer could make a ton of money suing the British government by allowing him to emigrate to America & foisting him on us.
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PatriotSunDevil
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 8:23pmGood one, walkabout! I must say that it would be a great time to join GOA. I just rejoined and it felt great. $20 per year gets you in the cause. http://www.gunowners.org
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TADTAD
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:14pmPiers Morgan; for a nominal fee I will tutor you regarding American history and specifically the significance and purpose of the 2nd Amendment. I am a degreed historian, and a Soviet threat expert which gives me extraordinary insight as to what is transpiring in this country at governmental and societal levels. Your lack of understanding fundamental American rights and the intent of those guaranteed rights yet having the ability to make reckless, ignorant statement to a massive audience (a few hundred thousand) is more than disturbing. Take your silly English rearend back to England, and remain a “subject” there, or spend some months studying our Bill of Rights, and our amendments to our Constitution.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:35pmI’ll volunteer to just kick his candy a$$ for free. That’s what he’s lacking. Calling names via satellite is very brave.
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OnwardThroughTheFog
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:12pmTypical Liberal comments…….don’t discuss the “FACTS’. Just resort to personal attacks and name-calling. What a du-bag! Sorry I just had to resort to it in your case, Piers.
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CanadaRocks
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:41pmGive me the facts to the following questions…
1. How many massacres have been stopped by armed citizens? A massacre being 4+ deaths.
2. How many stories has the blaze run on the victims and their funerals and showing us who these poor innocents were vs. guncontrol stories?
3. How does gun control make crime worse?
4. The killer could have used a knife or a car or a screwdriver to kill. If that is so how come there has never been a massacre where the killer used a knife or car or screwdriver? How come it is always guns?
CanadaRocks
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 1:38pmAnyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Didnt think so. Funny how you do the same thing of which you are criticizing.
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AvengerK
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 2:02pmWell CANARYROTS…we tried a total ban on “assault” weapons for nearly ten years. Guess what? Nothing changed.
Now you tell me little guy….had there been an armed guard at the school last week…would that many children have died? The answer is no. In fact in 2002 at the Appalachian School of Law two students went to their cars after hearing shots fired, got their guns, and helped to restrain the shooter until police arrested him.
The National Academy of Sciences looked at hundreds of studies and found not “a single gun regulation that reduced violent crime or murder.” Do you know why CANARYROTS? Because criminals don’t care about gun laws.
So spare me your puerile questions and demands they’re nothing but the shrill misdirections of a lefty cur.
Oh and you need to update that magical app of yours champ. When has a massacre occured using a knife you demanded?
Chinese teenager with a knife..8 dead.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/08/02/teen-kills-8-wounds-5-in-china-knife-attack/
Or this knife attack?
“On 4 August 2010, 26-year-old Fang Jiantang slashed more than 20 children and staff with a 60 cm knife, killing 3 children and 1 teacher, at a kindergarten in Zibo, Shandong province. Of the injured, 3 other children and 4 teachers were taken to the hospital”.
Got lots more if you want them champ. I suggest you rely less on that magical app of yours and more on that atrophied organ lodged in your skull..dimwit.
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jsplaine
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 2:07pmThe Bexar County Sheriff’s Office says the off-duty sergeant, who was working security, heard the gunshots and came running. She saw the gunman coming out of the men’s restroom. The Sheriff’s Office says the gunman did not shoot at her, but his gun was drawn so she opened fire.
That off-duty sergeant, identified as Lisa Castellano, fired four times, wounding the gunman. Only one other person was wounded, a 49-year-old man inside the theater, who was hit by one of the gunman’s shots. Both are expected to recover.
Go be a victim Rocks!
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TheEDGE
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 2:16pmCanada- 1. This is a childish question. How can anyone know what would have been a massacre when someone is stopped before it becomes a massacre.
2. Simply check the archives section of this website
3. Read history. The worst crimes perpetrated upon humanity in the last century always follow the implementation of gun control.
4. I do believe right up there in good ol’ Canada, British Columbia to be exact, you had the Pickton Brothers who sent over 20 prostitutes through a wood chipper after sexually torturing them. And, what about that guy that started beheading helpless people on a bus with a sword a few years back? It was a huge story in Canada. Then you can’t forget all of those dismembered feet that have continued to wash ashore in the greater Vancouver area for years now. It would seem to me that Canada should worry about their own mass murders.
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jsplaine
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 2:20pmhttp://www.theblaze.com/stories/man-attempts-to-open-fire-on-crowd-at-movie-theater-armed-off-duty-sheriffs-deputy-drops-him-with-one-bullet/
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AvengerK
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 2:22pmQuick CANARYROTS…what does your little magical app that keeps you so well informed tell you to tell me? LOL.
You realise how stupid you look like right now kid? Here you were beating your limp lefty chest..”tell me how come it’s always guns, why aren’t there any massacres with knives?”….and that all-seeing, all-knowing magical app yours that you like to rub in all us “rubes” faces couldn’t keep you informed enough to prevent you from look like a cretin. And you doubled down on your idiocy by invoking Ferris Beuller’s Day off and saying “I didn’t think so”….You’re an idiot.
Learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind open..you might actually learn something that your lefty professors didn’t scrub and approve for your indoctrination.
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Ben__Franklin
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 2:38pm…..Bueller? Bueller?…….Rocks?……Rocks?…….
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Twobyfour
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 2:40pm“1. How many massacres have been stopped by armed citizens? A massacre being 4+ deaths.”
You seem to be a few bricks short of the whole edifice. What kind of question is that? If someone prevents a massacre, hopefully there would be no casualties, bare the dropped criminal. Or do you need 4+ casualties for it to count?
“2. How many stories has the blaze run on the victims and their funerals and showing us who these poor innocents were vs. guncontrol stories?”
So, you seem to want stories with victims, the more the merrier, so you can wallow in a faked pity and ostentatious delegated “compassion”, you ghoul.
Blazers would rather see stories where a crime has been prevented, but people of your persuasion are making sure that there is a steady train of victims, so we get a mixed bag.
“3. How does gun control make crime worse?”
Another fallacy. Gun control results in more crimes. It affects only law abiding citizens. Criminals by their nature break laws and gun control does not affect them. They are emboldened, when they know there is no risk of leaving the crime scene with their bodies at the environment temperature, to do more crimes.
“4. The killer could have used a knife or a car or a screwdriver to kill. If that is so how come there has never been a massacre where the killer used a knife or car or screwdriver? How come it is always guns?”
Ignorance is a bliss, innit? Machetes — Rwanda, nearly 1 million victims
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Topcat
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 2:50pmMaybe a short visit to this website might change you opinion …..The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.
In the decade following the party’s election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million – or more than two every minute.
The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:
The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.
But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.
In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.
There is a word violence chart there Canada is sixth in the world for most violent crimes the US is the best .. This is an article from the UK…….
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html
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AvengerK
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 3:02pmTOPCAT…don’t waste your time with the idiot. He’s been marinated and steeped in lefty thought all his life. He’s a rigid ideologue thanks to the number his lefty teachers and professors did on him. You won’t change his mind because it’s unchangable, it’s stuck.
The cretin not too long ago was beating his wheezy chest to us all because he believes we’re all under-informed rubes while he has an “app” with..wait for it..20 news sites (and he listed each and every one of them on demand) that he reads every day and formulates his “learned” opinion from. Not coincidently..that “well informed” opinion always seems to land on the side of lefty ideals and talking points. Funny that huh?
Lo and behold…he’s just been humiliated into silence by the same “uninformed rubes” he mocks with ghoulish relish but he wont’ learn from it at all. Humility is not a liberal virtue, nor is acknowledging the truth.
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Techcon
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 3:16pm@CANADAROCKS
Don’t they have Google in Canada?
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shanej100
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 3:20pmJust so everyone here knows, CANADAROCKS DOES NOT speak for all Canadians on this (or likely any other) point. I don’t believe he could be any more wrong in his opinion. If an armed security guard were on site, or school officials had concealed carry permits and were allowed to carry on school premises, this whole situation would have been avoided – or at least the victims would have had a fighting chance.
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GuruMeditation
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 3:30pm@Techcon: Hehehe.
Yeah CANADA, look it up yourself. You may be surprised what you find. You expect others to look this crap up for you? I’ll bet you also expect others to protect you.
Spineless and lazy your are indeed.
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jsplaine
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 3:45pmthe crickets are chirping rat
her loudy north of the bordr! Or ma
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cosette
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 3:53pm@ Canada rocks.. April 19, 1995, Oklahoma City, Alfred Murrah federal bldg. Timothy McVeigh committed the most destructive act of terrorism up until the Al Qaeda attacks on Sept 11,2001. The former claimed 168 lives 19 of which were children under the age of 6. The latter claimed almost 3,000 lives. Tim Mcveighs’ weapon of choice, fertilizer and a Rider truck. Al Qaedas’ weapon of choice, box cutters and airplanes filled with innocent passengers’. Not one gun involved in either event. Educate yourself.
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AvengerK
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 4:20pmLOL…”a massacre being 4+ deaths”. Can you tell me where this number was taken from CANARYROTS? Did a panel of independent judges determine that’s what constitutes a massacre or did you come up with this gem yourself?
Let’s go over to the judges…”well Larry…only 3 died and 123 were wounded to various degrees…sorry..no massacre here”.
What about you judge number 2? “well Larry I have to concur with my fellow judge, even though a few of the 123 may die from their injuries at a later stage, only 3 have died thus far, and the rules say it’s not a massacre unless 4 die..have to say no massacre”
And judge number 3? “Larry I’m just consulting the CANADAROCKS book of massacre criteria….and it clearly says that it must be 4+ to constitute a massacre..now I’m not sure how you can categorize only 3 deaths at the same instance from a single assault, CANADAROCKS believes it’s merely an altercation, but CANADAROCKS is clear..it must be 4+ to be construed as a massacre…and I have to defer to the rule book he gives us..no massacre”.
There you have it ladies and gentlemen…the experts have unanimously confirmed that it must be 4+ deaths to make it a massacre. Anything less than 4+ is just an altercation. Back to Tony in the studio.
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ecbuck
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 6:18pmCanada – there were two potential mass murders stopped in the last week. They don’t hit your 4+ criteria because they were stopped by an armed citizen. That the whole point. Not to mention that most successful mass murders (including the most recent) have occurred in “gun free” zones where law abiding citizens don’t have a gun to defend themselves.
How does gun control make crimes worse. Studies (US Justice Department & Gary Kleck Florida State Univ) have shown that 1.5- 2 mil people defend themselves with a gun every year. If they don’t have guns, that is 1.5-2 million more crimes each year. That makes crimes worse.
And if you want non-gun mass murders, try the recent killings in China (a knife), or McVeigh in Oklahoma (a bomb), or the 3000 WTC murders. Evil doesn’t need a gun to commit mass murder.
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BetterInformed
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 7:46pmCanada
Chicago has gun control and 45 murders a month.
In the second world war Japan determined that invading America would be difficult if not impossible task because so many citizens owned guns.
Of course Canada can continue to spend a paltry amount on defense and restrict personal weapons since all of North America lives under the umbrella of protection provided by the United States military. Canada is like the bumbling inept neighbor.
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jrc99
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:11pmWhy does CNN “think” that it’s a smart idea to have a washed-up, left-wing, Brit who is in favor of fascist-style gun-control, telling us Americans what to do with themselves?
Piers go back to judging “talent” shows where you belong!
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:17pm“‘You Are a Dangerous Man…and You Shame Your Country’: CNN Anchor Lashes Out at Gun Lobby Director:”
It’s the self-absorbed arrogance of the left that is always on display. Can we not, in the same vein, state that Morgan is an embarrassment to the human race and a civilized society? Just as valid as his accusation, no?
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Cavallo
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:17pmThey wanted someone with a British accent hoping to fool people into thinking he was smart, and anything other than a gay dog eating tyrant’s bootlicker.
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BetterInformed
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 8:46pmMr. Bean was unavailable.
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decendentof56
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:11pmMorgan should remember the genocide committed in:
Rwanda
Cambodia
Cuba
S. Union
China
Sudan
Uganda, etc,etc
Morgan is the idiot here…..clearly
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SeekerEmerald
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:16pmAll Morgan knows is Obama will save us all. Liberalism will save us all.
what else does he need to know???
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:10pmThe Penn and Teller show “Fool Us” that was on in Great Britain is funny enough itself. You can watch episodes of this on You Tube if you like. One particular episode that I caught had the British MC thoroughly using P(f)iers Morgan as the **** of his joke. From the uproarious laughter that followed, I think that I got the appropriate feeling of what the British think of him too.
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Cavallo
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:08pmThe Fascists will stop at nothing to enslave you. They have come so far already. The right of self defense is one of the most important rights they want to snuff out. In order to seal the coffin tight on all the rest they have infringed upon, they need to make sure this one is removed so the people have no chance to ever resist.
USA RIP
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Jenny Lind
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:08pmI am afraid I would have to say back, no, you are the one that shame’s this countrey by your pig headed, one sided arguement.
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tothepoint
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:08pmPlease someone, anyone, educate Morgan on the Constitution and the facts about guns in America.
His ignorance and arrogance is staggering.
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decendentof56
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:17pm“Educate” and “Piers Morgan” should never be used in the same sentence.
The British gave away there Empire, but that wasn’t good enough. Now, they are giving away their country.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:20pmMaybe he won’t be so arrogant if he is tied up the Daily Mirror phone hacking scandal. He was editor there form 1995 to 2004. Question is did phone hacking gone during his time at the Daily Mirror?
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Walkabout
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:22pmI retract my comment about Piers being arrogant. He is insane.
“CNN host Piers Morgan may be under renewed criticism for alleged phone hacking, but at least he hasn’t lost his sense of humor. On Wednesday, he cracked wise about his record-low ratings on “Piers Morgan Tonight.” – LA Times
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:28pmWALKABOUT, Excellent point. I believe that may have had a lot to do with his seeking employment from Ted Turner.
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jblovesAmerica
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:07pmWe need to control PC opinions-this murderous POS should have been locked up getting some kind of treatment-or behind a wall away from normal society- but Liberals have decided thats not civil.
Ft Hood is a perfect example of PC out of control. everyone knew he was a radical terroist sympathizer.we let him murder troopers on USA soil on a military base.
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banjarmon
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:05pmCreating Soft targets for criminals make it east for them to kill as many as possible before the police arrive. When seconds count….The police are minutes away!!!!
Wrong dinner….Watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vDA9CIj93c
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:13pmI had to laugh at that. Love Gunny, and it reminded me of an older Chuck Norris scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GAgIBgOA3M
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TSUNAMI_22
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:49pmRJJinGadsden,
[Scene two] is the one where the guy with the toothpick “Pal”, is bowling with the black-eye in the movie “Uncle Buck”.
Hehehe
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Rob
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:04pmFame whores that go on liberal shows deserve what happens.
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tothepoint
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:11pmRidiculing Pratt is not the answer.
Pratt was trying to educate the obviously ignorant Morgan.
More gun supporters, not fewer, should go on these anti-American lefty shows to enlighten the world how arrogant and uninformed the lefties are about the Constitution and guns in America.
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decendentof56
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:13pmPratt more than held his own. Morgan, once again, came off as the idiot.
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Rob
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:23pm@tothepoint….and they are winning.
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IndyGuy
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:02pmP.S……Perhaps it’s time to ban Brits with a Marxist agenda…
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:02pmIs Fishing Piers a US citizen yet, or is this puke still hanging about with a Visa??
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dmvzone
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:15pmThat’s a good question……he wouldn’t have the answer if you ask him!!
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:38pmDMV and RJJ. “Lols” in your favor to the both of you.
This is the status I last heard regarding Piers to “quickly” get around the slow and LEGAL process of obtaining Citizenship…
“US immigration rules offer a special visa class for “Individuals with Extraordinary Ability or Achievement in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics, or extraordinary achievements in the motion picture and television field.”
I think they were working THAT angle. Not sure of the final outcome though…
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IndyGuy
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:00pmPiers who???
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Pontiaku
Posted on December 19, 2012 at 12:45pm“you wouldn’t understand the meaning of the phrase high-level argument.”
►”You are a dangerous man espousing dangerous nonsense and you shame your country”
►”it’s down to idiots like you.”
►“You don’t give a damn, do you, about the gun murder rate in America? You don’t actually care. All you care about — ”
►“You’re an unbelievably stupid man, aren’t you?”
►”What a ridiculous argument. You have absolutely no coherent argument whatsoever,”
►”complete and utter nonsense”
I seemed to have missed the “high-level argument”. Piers Morgan just hurled ridiculous insults…
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