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Are The Republicans Too ‘Extreme?’ Most Americans Think So, Poll Finds (But Is That the Full Story?)

Dec. 20, 2012 3:05pm Mytheos Holt

While many Tea Party activists have become increasingly disillusioned with Republicans for being allegedly willing to sell out their principles, Americans at large don’t appear to agree on the need for a harder line from Republicans. In fact, if a new poll from CNN is accurate (more on that later), the country may want Republicans to back down even more.

The poll, taken between December 16 and 18, shows some alarming statistics for Republicans, especially those concerned about negotiations over the fiscal cliff. From CNN’s writeup:

According to the survey, 53% say the GOP should compromise more, with 41% saying the Democratic Party should give up more of the proposals it supports to develop bipartisan solutions.[...]

Fifty-three percent of those surveyed say they view the policies of the GOP as too extreme, up 17 points from two years ago. Only 37% say they view the polices of the Democratic Party as too extreme.

It probably doesn’t help that House Speaker John Boehner, who’s leading GOP fiscal cliff negotiations with the president, is held in fairly low regard, particularly in comparison to Obama. According to the poll, 34% of the public approves of how the top Republican in the House handling his job. By contrast, the president’s approval rating stands at 52%.

These numbers may justifiably strike some people as alarming. However, TheBlaze took a look at the poll, and there are some bright spots and unexplained issues with the numbers.

For instance, a majority of Americans are glad Republicans control the House of Representatives, in spite of thinking their policy choices are too extreme. Moreover, while Republicans have been in much better positions in terms of public perception of their policies in the past, Democrats have consistently bested them in appearing mainstream to the public, even at the height of the 2010 Tea Party wave.

Nevertheless, at the height of that wave, only 36 percent of the country viewed the GOP as too extreme, with 58 percent thinking their views were generally mainstream. That number has almost completely reversed, with 53 percent viewing the GOP as too extreme now, and 43 percent viewing them as generally mainstream. Yet for strategists who may want to correct this problem, the poll offers little guidance.

CNN’s poll director observed that the numbers reflect a damaged GOP brand, but the poll does not test particular Republican policies for a perception of extremism. Rather, it simply lumps all those policies together under the Republican umbrella. As such, Republicans would come away from the poll knowing that their brand is damaged and that Americans view them as too extreme, but with no idea why.

In short, this poll may be cause for alarm among Republican partisans, but it also possibly offers information that those partisans already know.

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TEOTWASWKI
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:11pm
The republicans tactics have saved the democrats from their own policies but in return rewarded them with the scorn of the uninformed. Republicans should vote present on tax hikes and let the dems own the crash of the economy.

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:25pm
  republicans embarked on a morality crusade two decades ago with no desire to make real changes – the whole thing was a ruse to get more votes from christians. The majority of the current republican party has no interest in balancing the budget or reducing government.
  
  Now they are at the end of the road and must decide whether to come out of the closet as socialists or to turn towards the Constitution. The correct choice is to form a new constituency and make the republicans chase it instead of the socialists
  
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- Inkmage
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:35pm
  @SOYBOMB315_II
  
  Too true! I always feel the party and modern conservatives, do a much better job talking about god, and social issues- and sell it quite well to people who go for that stuff; than they do about the economy and limited gov, they don’t sell it well at all. Party needs to get away from Nixon’s 1950′s conservatism, and the joining of the Republican party and Christian coalition of Reagan’s day. They don’t seem to get that things are not as they were in the 50′s 60′s 70′s 80′s or even 90′s- and they seem stuck in those era lol.
  
  They need to get back to Lincoln’s Republican party, and classic conservatism which only had to do with limit gov, a common sense gov, and common sense approach to other issues- not worried about who is having an abortion, or who is marrying who, or a failing war on drugs. Most of all, they need to get back to the constitution.
  
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- Marine25
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:56pm
  @inkmage
  Good comments. The ‘conservatism of Lincoln’ of which you speak, was liberalism, as he was a center-left liberal. The fringe of his party weren’t reactionaries, like the tea-party, they were radicals. The liberalism of Lincoln is well represented today. The reactionary wing is well represented as well thanks to tea-partiers and fundamentalists. It is the Eisenhauer and Reagan moderate-right viewpoints that are unrepresented, for every time a Republican so much as claims to think about an issue, or engage in legislative debate or negotiation, they are labled a traitor, primaried, and their funding dries up. Extremist views can play well in small districts, but such policies lose big in general or statewide elections outside of the old confederacy. Today’s conservatives dismiss any result or data that confounds their dogmatic ideology. It’s suicidal, all these extreme guns, gods, and ethnic viewpoints, but it appears todays GOP likes hate and nationalism more than it likes actual political power.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:59pm
  Look, weak women are the problem. They are evolutionary nanny needers. Sandra Fluke is their poster child. They’re also pretty stupid, because they are ruining the country for their children.
  
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- Brettfan
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 5:13pm
  Many conservatives want the democrat to fall apart and a good way is to make them own the society and their policies by letting them not have their policies fixed. Have people suffer a little. It is a plan to destroy the left for good.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 5:16pm
  Sounds like THE_JERK has a problem with women in general as per this and previous comments. Jews and women… hmmmmmm…. JERK has some deep seated resentments…
  
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- Primekid
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 5:16pm
  @TEOTWASWKI I couldn’t agree more.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 5:23pm
  TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12, no problem, unless you’re calling the truth a problem. Women put Obama over the top. They’re part of the mooching class, by definition. You simply can’t see past your media jaded glasses.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 5:34pm
  JERK. Who gave birth to you and changed your diaper… some madaam at cathouse??
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 5:42pm
  TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12, the larger question would be, do you always think so superficially? If I’ve stated a factual error, point it out.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 6:11pm
  JERK. Hispanics (male/female) is what seems to have put Obama over the top this time around. I get your point, but I think you have some issues with Women and Jews you need to address professionally….
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 6:21pm
  TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12, women put him over the top. Men voted for Romney. Women = moochers. Men = Makers. Based on fact.
  
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- Jeffursun
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 11:34pm
  Everybody take a deep breath. All we need to do is UN-skew these polls (Romney Style) and voila: We get numbers that aren’t alarming at all. After personally UN-skewing the polls I found that a MAJORITY of Americans want more invasive probing, more tax cuts for people making over a billion and more creationism in schools. UN-skewing is FUN! Can’t wait for Romney Ryan 2016. The UN-skewed polls show it’s a lock.
  
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- lordjosh
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:48am
  I find that most people pay virtually no attention to what is going on and have never even attempted to actually verify and challenge a belief they hold. When challenged, they either shut right down and change the subject or they get extremely angry. These people are also called democrats.
  
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- heeltar
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:56pm
  I could not agree more, let the libs own every stinking failure
  
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Nevermind
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:09pm
Polls? The GOP dont read no stinkin poll’s they ,have their own! Dick Morris, Gallup, Karl Rove and all the others predicting Romney victory and you fools fell for it . So why bother now looking at accurate polls when your partisan ones make you feel all warm and fuzzy?

Keep failing GOP, 2014 is fast approaching and i cannot wait!

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- barber2
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:15pm
  NEVER: You have such a rotten attitude that you must be a Chicago radical lover. The hate, the anger, the nastiness you guys represent is far worse than any I have ever seen in politics. This attitude does not bode well for you, your party , nor for America . Hate stinks.
  
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- Pearsontech
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:19pm
  @Never too bad we won’t make it to 2014…. you have fun with that.
  
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- DAS_MOOCH
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:22pm
  @NEVER, then you are chomping at the bit to become a slave and being coddled by government?
  
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- Improvise.Adapt.Overcome
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:23pm
  Appropriately named NEVERMIND-
  Your poor taste in voting and ideas affects us all. To be more clear, this means you will eventually suffer for your ills as well! You think the grass is greener, as you have the “taker” mentallity. When everything collapses you will still be blaming Bush and the rest of us “makers” will be doing what we have always done. Which is creating ways for us to survive through this ignorance.
  
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- Inkmage
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:26pm
  @NEVERMIND
  
  Meh Polls don’t mean much, as people play with the numbers, and then people on a whole are just dumb really. As for the election, while I hoped Romney would win, I had a strong feeling he wouldn’t, and I didn’t pay any mind to the polls being thrown out, why? Because I kept hearing A LOT of people on the religious right, saying they were not going to vote for Romney, because he’s a Mormon- and they don’t trust Mormons. Then of course Ron Paul supporters also didn’t vote, or they voted for Ron Paul, and basically feel that both parties suck (which they do), and that things basically need to go to hell so people can wake up… In other words, it was the GOP, that defeated the GOP in the election lol. They’ll do it again in 2014, and 2016, if t hey don’t change some things- one of them being, getting off the damn social issues, as it is not original conservatism, or the original philosophy of the Republican party.
  
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- seeker9
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:30pm
  NEVERMIND
  If Republicans go away in 2014, who will you blame for all the country’s ills? Let me guess… George Bush.
  
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- subic
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:33pm
  Well said IMPROVISED.ADAPT, people like NEVERMIND, are the reason we’re in this downward spiral into he!!.
  
  If the communists get total control, NEVERMIND & his ilk will be the first to be killed off. If they betrayed their country like they are doing now they will say what’s to keep them from turning on we communists? Stalin did it to millions.
  
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- Improvise.Adapt.Overcome
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:37pm
  Semper Fi SUBIC!
  
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- SimpleTruths
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 10:13pm
  PEARSONTECH
  Translation – I hope we don’t make it to 2014.
  Sorry but we’ll get there just fine, but if we don’t it will be the GOP that pays the price.
  
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RaydocX
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:03pm
uhm, what do you expect from a poll with 53% of Americans are at work, earning the money the government will take to support the 47% sitting at home to answer phone polls?

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cloudsofwar
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:01pm
the country has changed it’s more socialist now. i didn’t want to believe this but i think it’s true. the old guard is dying off ( the greatest generation). this makes me sad because i’m a son of a ww2 vet and he’s gone. just look at our elected officals and the things they say. the America of our fathers and of our youth is gone. it was great while it lasted. the road ahead is full of pot holes.

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- jungle J
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:45pm
  the so called greatest gen spawned and raised these rats…the greatest generation is the soldier that came out of vietnam and got nothing and continued on.
  
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Cavallo
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:46pm
Give the Dems everything they want economically. Show the US public what happens when the math doesn’t work. 1.7 trillion in new taxes isn’t extreme (btw they will be lucky to get half that sum in any reality, if history is any kind of instructor)? Okay then.. 1.7 trillion yanked from the private sector. In reality the Dems actually want us to go over the fiscal cliff, and in honesty, I do as well. Why should I stop them from running into the rocks when they’re at the helm? I’m a good swimmer, even if I have to swim to foreign shores.

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- cloudsofwar
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:06pm
  this fiscal cliff bull is all about the dems getting the house in 2014. taxes go up the MSM will blame the repubs. this will lead to other things to blame on the repubs. how would you like a dem house and a dem senate with obama in 2014? you think it’s bad now 2014 to 2016 will spell the end of our country completely.
  
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- Improvise.Adapt.Overcome
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:07pm
  CAVALLO- Though I agree to most, the problem is we live in a “makers and takers” society”. You can’t show them anything on economics or morality, obviously, look at the last 4 years! The 20 years before that weren’t exactly our smartest as well but we all took the lesser of 2 evils mentallity. We basically did the same this time, and if it weren’t for my kid, I would probably just say the heck with it and say we get, as a country, what we deserve. My love for him doesn’t allow for that though.
  
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THERAPTURCOMES
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:45pm
What this boils down to is that through satanic politics this country has rejected God.

(1) This country has removed God from everything
(2) Over 50 million children murdered in the womb
(3) The countries churches turning apostate (Emergent Churches)
(4) This country involved with the dividing of the Israeli’s land

Prophecies given will be fulfilled

(1) Resurrection/rapture of the Church (real) John 14:3, 1 Thes 1:10, 1 Thes 5:9-11, 1 Cor 15;50-55, Rev 3:10
(2) World collapse that will usher in the anti Christ Isaiah 17;1, Isaiah 19, Zech 12, Psalm 83
(3) Rise of the anti christ and the world will fall on its knees before him.
(4) the Great deception Genesis 6:1-2 sons of God = Angels, Matthew 24:37. Fallen angels interfering with world again just as in Genesis 6:-12 but this time most likely pretending to be aliens

The only way to be saved is Romans 10:91-0 & 1 Cor 15:1-4

If you believe then Rev 3:10 applies to you

Rev 3:10 Because you have kept the word of my patience, I also will keep you from the hour of temptation, which shall come on all the world, to try them that dwell on the earth.

The Scriptures have told you what is going to happen before it happens

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BlackCrow
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:42pm
CNN polls? Give me a break! The Communist Democrats are not extreme? No wonder CNN can’t pull an national audience of more than a few hundred thousand.

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- Zipit
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:16pm
  Crow! Right you are! No mention of a six trillion dollar debt in four years being, “too extreme”! Is it, “too extreme”, forcing the taxpayer to pay for one million plus abortions each year that are pawned off as, “women’s healthcare”, or “reproductive rights”? Or how about a twenty eight hundred page health care bill (that the vast majority of America did not want), that will give us an additional ten thousand pages of federal regulation! Not “too extreme”, Is it? Sad thing is, I could keep going, and going!!!!!
  
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Cavallo
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:38pm
“…extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!”

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leasecommander
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:33pm
The Republicans don’t bend because they can see how broke we are and how dangerous the debt is on our economy and the future of our children, the Democrats will continue to spend money we don’t have, a some point the s____ will hit the fan. But that being said, somehow the liberal media will blame the Republicans, and the majority of Americans will continue to be un or mis-informed and continue to vote to further drain the national treasuries.

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RANGER1965
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:31pm
Most Americans are not heavily involved in politics. They live their lives, work their jobs, and enjoy what entertainment they can afford. They read a local newspaper from time to time (liberally biased). They hear a little news on a music station on their drive to work (liberally biased). They read some headline stories on their computer at work from YAHOO, GOOGLE, or MSN Home pages, (liberally biased), and when they get home they might catch a little network news from ABC, NBC, CBS (liberally biased).

Opinions are generally based on the information recieved. If all of the information is liberally biased then the majority will become liberal over time. They won’t even know it’s happening.

And it has happened. It’s a machine continually pumping out propaganda, and half-truths. If it wasn’t so evil, you could almost admire it for it’s effectiveness.

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- justangry
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:59pm
  Don’t forget the liberally biased movie industry, schools and colleges. We’re SCREWED!
  
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vperl
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:29pm
Yes, they found me out, I am an EXTREMIST, shame on me. I believe in freedom and a government that is responsible for what they do. I believe in the separation of powers. I believe in the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I am an extremist, I even believe in FREEDOM of the Press. The Press ought to be wary of every politician, make no favorites and report all events with out personnel bias. Do not worship at the throne of our political leaders, they are our servants, not our MASTERS.

Does anyone seem to care the Press either never reports events as the actually happened, or just not reporting events that are not in their favorite politicians narrative ? Answer, NO way dis there care for the truth or actual facts.

I do not believe in cover-ups, lies, and false promises that are being thrown out on the public, by the press that wished to follow the Presidential narrative.

Four more years of FORWARD , it will be sad trip.

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- oldguy49
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:36pm
  amen…..and pass the ammo
  
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- flatbroke
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:54pm
  and amen. you are not alone.
  
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- JustaFacts
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:35pm
  I believe in many of the same things, but unlike many conservatives, I get most of my news from reputable sources, like the NYT, MSN, or CNN. Yes they might lean left, but they have a much higher rate of telling Facts. I do not get my information from conservative news sources like Fox News, or Glenn Beck. Many conservatives don’t realize that the news that they get is inaccurate, and they are doing themselves a disservice. The rest of the Nation and International community is becoming more liberal. Please ask yourself “if these conservative sources are telling the truth, why are conservatives losing so much ground?”
  
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- vperl
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:45am
  Only good thing for me is, I will not suffer the fate most of you will. I will be “not in the picture” hope to vote in one last four year election cycle . Fingers crossed. Your the ones that will pay up, not me.
  
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BasketFullOfPuppies
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:29pm
I would add that the wording of the poll questions probably leaves quite a bit to be desired. For instance, what are Republican stances on issues? I know what they were. But, that doesn’t seem to be the same now. As for the popular opinion towards Boehner, I would have to agree. To me, he is a spineless coward. I hold that same opinion of a lot of the republican leadership.

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sgtstubbs
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:27pm
The past three candidates for the office of President have been Liberals who have been in Washington D C to long. They really did not reflect what we wanted, and it seems that the Party decided before anyone voted just who was going to get elected to run…….anyone else see that.????

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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:27pm
I can see one reason why John Q Public at large would thing WE are [extreme]. We let the “Bowel Movement” (Paleolibertarians) that Reagan eye-balled then rightly kicked to the curb back into Republican Party with the perty sweet talk of small government, sound money and Constitution.

With this redundant sweet talk (Conservatives already valued these things) by a snake-oil crew who couldn’t make it on their Liberal-tarian own… we also allowed a whole host of non-Conservative moral repugnancy to ride in on it’s coat tails along with racists, anti-semites, isolationists, conspiracy theorists, America haters, blamers and apologists for our enemies around the world.

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- Locked
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:46pm
  “the perty sweet talk of small government, sound money and Constitution.
  
  With this redundant sweet talk (Conservatives already valued these things)”
  
  Problem being, most folks identifying as “conservative” actualy mean “social conservatives”… and if you think small government, solid money, and the Constitution are first and foremost for a SOCIAL conservative, brother, you are on the wrong side of reality. A social conservative’s first and foremost goal is using the government to implement their view of what good societal norms should be. If this can be accomplished by small government, following the Constitution, and cutting spending… great! Social conservatives would love to meet both social and fiscal objectives.
  
  … but that never happens. Never has. Enforcing social mores and standards of behavior requires an intrusive government, restricting the freedoms of people to make their own choices (even if those choices harm no one but themselves), and often requires increased spending.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:52pm
  TIME, Considering this is a CNN poll, I think it has Soledud O’Brien’s and Dawn Lemon’s fingerprints all over it.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:55pm
  The guy that expanded Jimmy Carter’s government, debt, deficit, ILLEGALLY armed the Iranians, and was borderline senile/delusional is your hero? No wonder you’re SO backwards.
  
  Here, learn something… “Social Conservative Pharisees” http://lewrockwell.com/green-p/green-p17.1.html
  
  I wouldn’t have thought about calling people like you ‘pharisees’, but if the shoe fits…
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:56pm
  Liberal-tarianism is basically the Marxism of the right “fringe”. If Marxism is the delusion that one can run society purely on altruism and collectivism, then Liberal-tarianism is the mirror-image delusion that one can run it purely on selfishness and individualism. Society in fact requires both individualism and collectivism, both selfishness and altruism, to function. Like Marxism, Liberal-tarianism offers the fraudulent intellectual security of a complete a priori account of the political good without the effort of empirical investigation. Like Marxism, it aspires, overtly or covertly, to reduce social life to economics. And like Marxism, it has its historical myths and a genius for making its followers feel like an elect unbound by the moral rules of their society.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:58pm
  RJJ. I’m sure it does without a doubt… but I like to jump in when TIME permits to get my points in… lol.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:13pm
  So you like a little bit a communism? And you just admitted it. Get bent collectivist statist.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:18pm
  Reagan-styled Republicans need to identify those who rail against the government for a number of different reasons (and it ain’t just to be fiscally Conservative folks), preaching for absolutely zero tolerance of any governmental bodies… be those in the arenas of taxation, the Military, foreign relations, energy (even to the most basic levels as required for national security or the stability of health and human services). The Liberal-tarians of today advocate near-anarchy-like conditions between populace and government… a condition precisely as those promoted by the likes of Lenin, and Stalin his successor.
  
  As the Left has pulled further left, and the Right may be pulling further right, we’ve all come to realize that Moderate is a misnomer. And it’s time to understand, too, that Liberal-tarians, lost in a sea of “nearly-theres” and “could-have-beens” are dangerously radical towards a goal of recognition.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:24pm
  JUST. Without a few oft repeated “buzzwords” you like to bandy about with… you never posed much of an urgument on any topic….
  
  Please… PLEASE tell me now I MUST hate the Constitution, freedom and LIBERTY too. You left those off, this time around…. lol.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:45pm
  JUSTANGRY,
  “The guy that expanded Jimmy Carter’s government, debt, deficit, {ILLEGALLY armed the Iranians,} and was borderline senile/delusional is your hero? No wonder you’re SO backwards.”
  For now I will only get into this part of your claim. During the conflict from September 1980 to August 1988 we did start to provide some supplies in 1982. Mostly non-military related, although some civilian helicopters were later refitted for military use. The materials that the U.S, sent Iraq during this amounts to almost 1% of the material sent by other nations. Predominately, the providers were the former Soviet Union and France. BTW, nothing sent was illegal either. You just want to make it sound that way.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:49pm
  Btw ADAM KOKESH, sorry….JUST ANGRY…. I forgot to add…. LEW ROCKWELL.COM? Ron Paul’s Newsletter ghostwriter??? 10X’s worse than going to Alex Jones’ Infowars….
  
  Bwahahahahahahahahaha….. nighty nite ADAM, er JUST….
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:53pm
  JUSTANGRY, Meant to say this in the above, but was distracted. I am going on the probability that you were referring to arming the Iraqis since Reagan was not in office when Iran received arms such as the F14, helicopters and such prior to the hostage situation.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:59pm
  RJJ, I was referring to Iran-Contra, and he was involved. The Reagan worship isn’t justified. I thought he was great for a long time too. He wasn’t. He was just personable like every other Hollywood actor.
  
  Time2, Whatever PINKO!!
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 5:00pm
  RJJ. You’re wasting time with this one. He’s former Navy enlisted who now rails against NCO’s and Military Retirees as “collectivists” (**** admitted to having his nose up a few Officer 4th points of contact). I personally think he may have seen some Captain’s Mast once or twice in his short-timer career. He’s pretty much on the side of insubordination. Who’d a thunk it…???
  
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- Locked
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 5:00pm
  “The Liberal-tarians of today advocate near-anarchy-like conditions between populace and government… a condition precisely as those promoted by the likes of Lenin, and Stalin his successor. ”
  
  I’m hearing this as “we need big government to restrict personal freedom, impose religion upon the people, and take more of their money now… or else, uh, it’ll be really REALLY bad later!”
  
  That about right? “Give us big government (like we want) or you’ll get a big government (like the Democrats want)!” seems to sum up your thinking (and that of social conservatives) pretty well.
  
  It also means a big “F U” to anyone who wants a small government or to follow the Constitution.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 5:47pm
  You want Extreme?… I’ll give you “Extreme”…
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLxJXBWOlL8
  
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- justangry
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 5:51pm
  Shut up, f’king pinko. All you’ve done is berate my time with a Battle E SHOCK UNIT and you were nothing but an engineer/instructor/recruiter posing as a badass. …backwards
  
  You argue that two opposing forms of government are the same thing…. backwards
  
  You argue for Christian values but have expressed you love for murder and genocide…. backwards
  
  So keep loving your collectivism. You’re nothing but a slick Bolshevik poser. You poison conservatives with this idea that a little bit of collectivism is a good thing as if you can stop collectivist policies once you start them.
  
  So everyone has a choice. Listen to GENIUS Ayn Rand who says all collectivism and altruism leads to tyranny or … Time2, a dumb uneducated grunt poser who has constantly used Rules for Radicals on this site to berate folks that want to return to the ideas of our founders. All anyone has to do is read what he just said. He’s telling you a little communism is a good thing. Sounds like that wolf in sheep’s clothing to me.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 6:05pm
  JUST…
  
  allow me to step in here for a second..
  
  I also think a little communism is a good thing-
  but not of the legislated variety.
  
  Communism is perfect for many households, and family members who love and trust one another.
  In situations where love motivates the proletariat, communism is successful.
  
  It’s just not a valid governing or economic theory once you apply it to anyone beyond your home or family.
  
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- resme
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 6:19pm
  to lighten the situation, :).
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgicPdsxxg
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 6:26pm
  JUST. “All you’ve done is berate my time with a Battle E SHOCK UNIT and you were nothing but an engineer/instructor/recruiter posing as a badass. …backwards.”
  
  From your typing fingers to mine JUST. Just wrote back to you what I’ve seen you wite over a period of time here. A seemingly insubordinate hatred for your seniors (and I’m assuming your betters) in your unit of assignment (except for some pilots who actually pulled the trigger you seem to rail against). A mostly John Kerry / John Murtha / Adam Kokesh styled anti-Military rants plus an anti-authoritarian stance on everything and anything bigger than you from A-Z. A Code-Pink mentality that borders increasingly on the ridiculous. And aligning yourself with the worst America haters our country seems to produce and the ideology you and they parrot. I could swear you’re an anarchist sometimes, not the Constitutional loving patriot you seem to have some convinced that you are…
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 6:49pm
  RESME. TIME_ has come….
  
  http://youtu.be/_zfgoJzOCgg
  
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- justangry
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:23pm
  A pinko with more stripes is still nothing but a pinko.
  
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justangry
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:26pm
Screw CNN and their poll. They are agenda driven global socialists that obviously want our guns so their CFR owners won’t experience armed resistance to their NWO take over.

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- DAS_MOOCH
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:06pm
  That’s right JUST, with China being the model for Obaaaaaamaaaa’s “new america”. To enslave us into an abyss of debt.
  
  Quiet slaves, we control everything. That’s why they want us disarmed
  
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:25pm
ALL the Politicians today are gutless, immature children who point fingers and argue like kids in a Sand Box. They do nothing. They accomplish nothing. That’s why this Kountry is now a Communist run Kountry and we are heading for 17 Trillion in Debt. It’s over for US. There are NO HERO’s left.

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Locked
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:22pm
“Pepsi is too extreme! Drink Coke!”

I’d prefer a tall glass of water, frankly.

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- vperl
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:33pm
  Fascists, do need to choose which brand of water, no TAP water allowed
  
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Margyt
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:22pm
Between the dems disinformation campaign via MSM and the changing American demographic, this should come as no surprise. It should, though, let the repubs know that they can’t battle leftism by being left-lite. There is nothing to be lost and much honor to gain by being the voice crying in the darkness. The repubs should rebrand as the true conservatives we need for this country’s survival.

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DougHuffman
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:19pm
H. L. Mencken, “Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. No one in this world, so far as I know … has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.
Notes On Journalism in the Chicago Tribune (19 September 1926)”

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hauschild
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:18pm
“Are The Republicans Too ‘Extreme?’”

Yeah, that “dead”, “extremist” US Constitution.

“Good riddance!”, the “low informationers” say.

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SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:15pm
It’s called progressivism what was just and moral has been chipped away and we no longer look to the laws the good book nor the ten commandments. We bend the rule of law to fit a certain few.

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PATTY HENRY
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:13pm
But didn’t you guys just hear? OBAMA says that the REPUBLICANS aren’t working with him on Taxes because “The REPUBLICANS don’t like me”. Have you ever???!!!! I mean EVER???!!!
Chas. Krauthammer says this is what a Narcissist would say.
WHEN have you ever heard and ADULT (Man or Woman) ever say that? I’ve heard it in 2nd grade, but an Adult??? GOOD GRIEF!!! and that man has the red button in his office? HE’S nuttier than a Christmas Fruitcake. Can we make it through 4 more years?
THE AMERICANS who are BLACK need to stand up and quell this Racial divisive garbage before our country is totally ruined beyond repair (May be Obama’s goal) . The responsible Adults need to “be the Man” now and stop all of this. This hatred has to stop. IF anyone doesn’t like Obama, it’s because of his Nazi, Commie, Marxist, One-Worlder, Muslim tactics. Good Grief!!! “They don’t like me” ? Have you ever????

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- barber2
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:21pm
  Obama, like the rest of the Chicago radicals, is just spewing his Alinsky tactics: accuse your opponent of doing what you yourself are actually doing. Obama is well schooled in the Rules For Radicals. Probably one of the reasons he keeps his school records hidden. ( That ” transparent ” word ? pure Alinsky – means the opposite. Remember ” forward ?” – means backwards ( to Lenin where the Chicago radicals “borrowed” the word ! )
  
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Top_Contributor
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:13pm
Conservatives don’t believe polls. Which is why it’s always so satisfying when the polls turn out to be correct!

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- MrSunshine
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:24pm
  Top, you’re a snarky little wimp. All you rude little lefties do is spout leftist talking points and counter conservative arguments with nothing more than playground contradiction. I’m surprised you haven’t let a good “I know you are but what am I?” fly.
  
  Grow up!
  
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- DAS_MOOCH
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:10pm
  TOP needs to go off and CONTRIBUTE to the TOP of his boyfriends knob!
  
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- Top_Contributor
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:20pm
  @MrSunshine, “playground?” “I know you are but what am I?” Lefties and libs only, eh? Check out the comment directly below yours. Hypocrisy runs rampant here. The right is as bad as the left. And that, my friends, is real TRUTH.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 4:26pm
  TOP: The so-called Far Right ( the anarchists) are certainly just like the Far Left ( the OWS / Black Blocs ) ! Both of the “FARs” are nasty, rude, arrogant and dangerous to a civilized society ! Unfortunately the leaders Chicago radicals are determined to destroy American capitalism which places them in that dangerous to civil order , the FAR category.
  
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TSUNAMI_22
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:09pm
The republicans ARE the democrats. It’s hard when you have to fight with yourselves and ever expect anything to get done.

It’s a prime example of a single party with the same agenda. They are ALL belonging to the “we want our cake and eat it too” Party.

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- naughtycal
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:13pm
  No one asked for examples ….I wonder why?
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:16pm
  Obamas bud’s.http://www.infowars.com/communist-chinese-government-calls-for-americans-to-be-disarmed/
  
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ResistSocialism
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:08pm
lies lies tell me sweet little lies

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- ResistSocialism
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 3:36pm
  And for those who appreciate good music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb1UaRu0JVA
  
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